Re: Fwd: Network library on Maemo 4

[Patrik Flykt]

Hi,

On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 11:46 -0300, ext Lauro Moura wrote:
> > Does the libconic library handle TCP sockets ?

libconic deals only with requesting a network connection from icd. No
sockets of any kind are handled.

> So, looks like that the bora/3.2 guide and examples can work without
> further modifications in chinook/4.0, unless there are other changes
> not documented (yet).

There are no API changes, only bugfixes. The previous document is very
much usable.

Cheers,

Patrik

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Re: To use or not to use Glade to design GUI for Maemo applications...

[Andrea Grandi]

Hi,

> This is the method I'm using for my C and Ruby Gtk apps as well:
> create the UI using glade, then if necessary reparent the toplevel
> container to a hildon window, and manually replace any other widgets
> (e.g. GtkSpinButton => HildonNumberEditor) in code.  It's less optimal

how can I reparent to another class a dinamically created object?

> than it could be, but it's still leagues better, IMO, than creating
> and maintaining the entire UI in code.

yes, I agree

Thanks for your help :)

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Re: N810 availability?

[Quim Gil]

Hi,

On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 21:50 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> With the N810 being launched in the US[1] and getting into the hands
> of users[2], it seems that both the rest of the world; and device
> programme discount codes are being missed out[3].

We are silently working to get all the exact dates you are waiting for.
We will communicate them as soon as they are confirmed.

Yes, I understand...

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Not able to flash N800

[Vipin Kumar Tyagi]

Hi,

I am not able to Flash N800 with rootfs image using flasher-3.0 by command $ 
./flasher-3.0 -r  -f -R and got the error mentioned below.

USB device found found at bus 005, device address 005
Found device RX-34, hardware revision 1301
NOLO version 1.1.6
Version of 'sw-release': 
Sending and flashing rootfs image (185266 kB)...
100% (185266 of 185266 kB, avg. 233922 kB/s)
Finishing flashing... Sending request 0x52 failed!
Unable to get error strings: Connection timed out

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cannot resolve repository

[Bryan Kate]

I know the solution to this problem is all over the net, but I still cannot 
seem to fix it. I get the following error when I try to run 'apt-get update' on 
any target in scratchbox. 

[sbox-CHINOOK_ARMEL: ~] > apt-get update
Ign file: chinook Release.gpg
Ign file: chinook Release   
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Ign http://repository.maemo.org chinook Release
Ign http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org chinook/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Sources/DiffIndex
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Packages
  Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/non-free Packages
  Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Sources
  Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/Release.gpg  Could 
not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch 
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz  Could 
not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch 
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/non-free/binary-armel/Packages.gz  
Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch 
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/free/source/Sources.gz  Could not 
resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Reading package lists... Done
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.

I checked all of my nsswitch.conf files, and each one is correct (host and each 
target). This worked when I first installed scratchbox and now it doesn't. Any 
thoughts?

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Re: Confused about Application Catalog

[Mike Morrison]

> This seems a retrograde step as it is useful to just have one page for
> comments, one page to update if the app moves, etc.  Was it announced here
> and I missed it?

I have noticed quite a few issues with the new site as well. I was
going to wait for an official announcement before I started filing
bugs but maybe there isn't going to be one?

So, will there be something sent out or put up in the documentation
that explains the workings of this new site? Some questions off the
top of my head are:

What is a pearl? How does it get there?
Why does it say "10 votes" for an application, but I only see 4?
Why do some comments have a blank name?
Can you leave a comment for an application without voting for it?

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Re: PowerVR

[Simon Pickering]

> After doing this the kernel module can be modprobed (move it to
> /lib/modules/`uname -r'/) and it creates sysfs entries. I think there
> should be a /dev entry created, I have to look into the name and
> numbers and see if I need to create it myself (it may be that the
> driver waits for a connection before doing so I suppose).

Right, well it looks like the driver should produce a /proc/pvr entry 
and should also be visible in /proc/devices as pvrsrv. Neither of these 
happens. Strangely the module stays loaded though. Time for more 
debugging.


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Re: N810 availability?

[Antonio Di Cello]

Actually there is considerable confusion is not yet clear when it will be 
distributed in europe the new n810. So what I understand many people want to 
know when they can use the discount code that have obtained. If you have any 
info ufficial let us know. They are all eager to test the new device


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> Well, I'm waiting to get the N810 to test some applications I'm
> developing. I don't have the N800 so it's not an option of testing for
> me.
> BTW, anyone knows how much the N810 device program discount is?
> 
> On Nov 19, 2007 6:50 PM, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > With the N810 being launched in the US[1] and getting into the hands
> > of users[2], it seems that both the rest of the world; and device
> > programme discount codes are being missed out[3].
> >
> > Is there an update on timescales for widespread availability? Although
> > the SDK's been available for a while, I know many people are reluctant
> > to release apps without having tested them on a device themselves.
> > It'd be a shame for lots of end-users to get the device before the
> > developers have a chance to test and release their apps.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > [1] http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1169511
> > [2] http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11976
> > [3] 
> > http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=97302&postcount=50
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Re: N810 availability?

[Alfredo J. Fabretti]

Well, I'm waiting to get the N810 to test some applications I'm
developing. I don't have the N800 so it's not an option of testing for
me.
BTW, anyone knows how much the N810 device program discount is?

On Nov 19, 2007 6:50 PM, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With the N810 being launched in the US[1] and getting into the hands
> of users[2], it seems that both the rest of the world; and device
> programme discount codes are being missed out[3].
>
> Is there an update on timescales for widespread availability? Although
> the SDK's been available for a while, I know many people are reluctant
> to release apps without having tested them on a device themselves.
> It'd be a shame for lots of end-users to get the device before the
> developers have a chance to test and release their apps.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>
> [1] http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1169511
> [2] http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11976
> [3] http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=97302&postcount=50
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N810 availability?

[Andrew Flegg]

Hi,

With the N810 being launched in the US[1] and getting into the hands
of users[2], it seems that both the rest of the world; and device
programme discount codes are being missed out[3].

Is there an update on timescales for widespread availability? Although
the SDK's been available for a while, I know many people are reluctant
to release apps without having tested them on a device themselves.
It'd be a shame for lots of end-users to get the device before the
developers have a chance to test and release their apps.

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

[1] http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1169511
[2] http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11976
[3] http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=97302&postcount=50

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Re: new pygtk module with glade support

[Luciano Miguel Wolf]

Hi Jesse,

Looks like we have a problem here. I did everything under sbox, using 
the final SDK. Developers just need to run an "apt-get update && apt-get 
upgrade" and this new pygkt will be installed. But now I've noticed that 
ApplicationManager doesn't allow to update libglade(from 2.4 to 2.6). 
Any PyGtk since v2.8 needs libglade >= 2.5 to compile. We are using 
v2.12. I will ask somebody at Maemo/Nokia to update this package.


ext Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> What are the install instructions for this? I refreshed my chinook app 
> mngr and didn't see pygtk listed, though I have pymaemo installed
> 
> On 11/19/07, * Luciano Miguel Wolf* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> A new PyGTK, with glade support, is available at chinook extras
> repository. It was generated using libglade2-0 (2.6.2-1indt1).
> 
> Other bugfixes and unstable modules, like python-launcher, will be
> released using the new "extras-devel" repository. This way we can test
> it widely before official release.
> 
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Re: new pygtk module with glade support

[Jesse Guardiani]

What are the install instructions for this? I refreshed my chinook app mngr
and didn't see pygtk listed, though I have pymaemo installed

On 11/19/07, Luciano Miguel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A new PyGTK, with glade support, is available at chinook extras
> repository. It was generated using libglade2-0 (2.6.2-1indt1).
>
> Other bugfixes and unstable modules, like python-launcher, will be
> released using the new "extras-devel" repository. This way we can test
> it widely before official release.
>
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PowerVR

[Simon Pickering]

Hello all,

As some of you may know there's a 2.6.x package of binaries available 
from Ti for the OMAP2430 (the link for the OMAP2420 re-directs to these 
files).

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12700&contentId=27458

Specifically:

OpenSource Kernel v2.6.10
Open GL ES v1.1 and OpenVG 1.0 SDK based on OMAPSW vL16.4 BSP, use 
GCC-3.4.4 Tool Chain

Curiously the kernel module in this SDK is compiled for 2.6.14, but anyway...

Anyway we were chatting on IRC and wondering whether they can be made 
to work somehow. There is the obvious problem of the wrong kernel 
version but this can be forced and then one runs into the undefined 
symbols.

To solve both these problems I used this script (thanks X-Fade for the 
pointer):

#==
#! /bin/bash
MI=/tmp/modinfo

[ -z "$DEPMOD" ] && DEPMOD=depmod

#new kernel version modinfo section
# alter this version to match what's running on your N800
# `uname -r'
echo -ne "kernel_version=2.6.21-omap1\0" > $MI

#build the objcopy command
CMD="objcopy"

#fix symbols which don't exist in the new kernel
# I chose random names to rename these symbols
# they exist in exports from the kernel module but are not called
# by any of the files contained in the SDK so I thought it was safe
# to get rid of them
CMD="$CMD --redefine-sym=pci_bus_write_config_dword=sprintf"
CMD="$CMD --redefine-sym=pci_find_slot=printk"
CMD="$CMD --redefine-sym=pci_bus_read_config_dword=snprintf"

# these two look like the original names have been wrapped
CMD="$CMD --redefine-sym=__arch_copy_from_user=__copy_from_user"
CMD="$CMD --redefine-sym=__arch_copy_to_user=__copy_to_user"

#replace the modinfo section with the new one
CMD="$CMD --remove-section=.modinfo --add-section=.modinfo=$MI"
CMD="$CMD $*"

#run the command
$CMD

#remove the section file
rm -f $MI

#==

After doing this the kernel module can be modprobed (move it to 
/lib/modules/`uname -r'/) and it creates sysfs entries. I think there 
should be a /dev entry created, I have to look into the name and 
numbers and see if I need to create it myself (it may be that the 
driver waits for a connection before doing so I suppose).

Next step was to look at the other binaries in the SDK. I chose 
power_test to test producing the following:

Nokia-N800-:/home/user/pvr# /lib/ld-linux.so.3 --list ./power_test
./power_test: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.0' not found (required 
by ./power_test)
./power_test: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1' not found (required 
by /home/user/pvr/libsrv_um_1.1.33.561.so)
./power_test: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.0' not found (required 
by /home/user/pvr/libsrv_um_1.1.33.561.so)
 libsrv_um_1.1.33.561.so => 
/home/user/pvr/libsrv_um_1.1.33.561.so (0x40004000)
 libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4122)
 libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x41028000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.3 (0x2a00)

So an older version of libc and the ABI. suihkulokki suggested using an 
old ABI chroot setup. Any other thoughts (or anyone who fanices trying 
that)? Alternatively one could probably build an image that uses the 
old ABI using bitbake/OE or Mamona, and also match the libc and xserver 
versions to boot.

Unless anyone has any other suggestions I think that is what I'll do 
once I have an N810 to use day-to-day. If we can both insert the kernel 
module and run the binaries it should be possible to eavesdrop on the 
communications between the user-space-side server thread and the kernel 
driver itself and try to work out how it all fits together (so it can 
be used in a more up-to-date system).

I'm not sure whether the fact that this SDK is for the OMAP2430 will 
cause issues.

I'm also not sure whether there's many/any modifications to the x-server.

Cheers,


Simon

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Re: installing .deb to N800

[Tripti Gupta]

Another thing.. I tried to do the same with a maemopad
package i built using the source present in
repository, thinking may be my package has issues.
Same error!

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Re: Generated .deb package doesn't contain the executable file (was SPIM ported to Chinook)

[Andrea Grandi]

Hi,

> Try it changing "$(MAKE) DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/spim install" for
> "$(MAKE) DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp install"

I just tried this too, but it still doesn't work :(

It's not a so important package, I know, but I just would like to
understand what's wrong with it.

Thanks again!

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new pygtk module with glade support

[Luciano Miguel Wolf]

Hi all,

A new PyGTK, with glade support, is available at chinook extras 
repository. It was generated using libglade2-0 (2.6.2-1indt1).

Other bugfixes and unstable modules, like python-launcher, will be 
released using the new "extras-devel" repository. This way we can test 
it widely before official release.

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Re: Generated .deb package doesn't contain the executable file (was SPIM ported to Chinook)

[Daniel Martín Yerga]

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:22:21 +0100
"Andrea Grandi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Another thing that I have noticed is that if debian/compat is 4,
> > DESTDIR it would be like yours 'DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/spim',
> > but if there isn't debian/compat or have other value, it could
> > install something (for example binary files) in
> > 'DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp' and others (for example documents,
> > for dh_installdocs order) in debian/spim. Or on the contrary, I
> > don't remember very well. Something similar has happened to me
> > sometime.
> 
> I don't understand this part... what should I change here?
> 
> You need more information? Please let me know.
> 
Ok. I don't explained it well.

Try it changing "$(MAKE) DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/spim install" for
"$(MAKE) DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp install"

Sometimes the temporary files go to debian/tmp and sometimes it go to
debian/package_name.

I don't know very well why, but I think it's something related to
debian/compat.


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Re: installing .deb to N800

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It is like:

(Reading database ... 16712 files and directories
currently installed.)
Unpacking myapp (from myapp_1.0_armel.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing myapp_1.0_armel.deb
(--install):
corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package
archive
Errors were encountered while processing:
myapp_1.0_armel.deb

I simply make .deb in my sratchbox and take the file
to N800 and try installing it by dpkg or even clicking
on it. Doesnt work but same file works for my SDK!


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Re: Generated .deb package doesn't contain the executable file (was SPIM ported to Chinook)

[Andrea Grandi]

Hi,

> In the debian/rules of Debian distro for spim, the install order is
> 'dh_install' instead of '$(MAKE) DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/spim install'
> in your debian/rules file. That could be the problem. I suppose
> changing only it should give you the same problem, I do not know.

yes I tried to change it but I still get the same problem. I get this
problem even if I try to build a Spim package for my Ubuntu machine.

> Another thing that I have noticed is that if debian/compat is 4,
> DESTDIR it would be like yours 'DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/spim',
> but if there isn't debian/compat or have other value, it could install
> something (for example binary files) in 'DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp'
> and others (for example documents, for dh_installdocs order) in
> debian/spim. Or on the contrary, I don't remember very well.
> Something similar has happened to me sometime.

I don't understand this part... what should I change here?

You need more information? Please let me know.

Thanks again :)

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Re: installing .deb to N800

[Marcelo Lira]

What messages you got when installing on the device?

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installing .deb to N800

[Tripti Gupta]

I am wondering if what I am doing is correct.. as
finally my device is not installing the package.
I am creating .deb on scratchbox with ARMEL target.
The .deb created on X86 target successfully installs
on my SDK and I can see it working. Now i want to see
it on my N800. 
Just a .deb created on ARMEL target doesn't work for
N800?
Is there anything that I am missing?

thnaks
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Re: Confused about Application Catalog

[Frantisek Dufka]

Graham Cobb wrote:
>   Do I create a new page (even though the "unix name" 
> will be the same)?

Yes. Not sure about unix name but it seems to work.

> 
> This seems a retrograde step as it is useful to just have one page for 
> comments, one page to update if the app moves, etc. 

Exactly. I feel you pain too, see http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2121

I my case I even have exactly the same binary for all systems so making 
3 pages for it is just pure annoyance.

Frantisek
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Confused about Application Catalog

[Graham Cobb]

I went to update the Application Catalog entries for the GPE applications to 
make them available for OS2008 and have ended up very confused.  It looks as 
though each application now has a completely separate page for each OS 
version.  Is that right?

I am sure that in the past we had a single page and we could add and remove 
availability on different OS releases on the single page.  But now when I 
find a page for one of the apps and then click on Page/Edit the OS dropdown 
box only contains one version.  And the IT2006 and IT2007 pages for a single 
app have different comments.

I notice that the IT2006 page for gpe-calendar seems to have been created on 
6th November (although not by anyone in particular).  At about the same time 
that the revision histories all started filling up with crap (see bug #2327).

What I really want to know is how to update the pages so that they are 
available for IT2008.  Do I create a new page (even though the "unix name" 
will be the same)?

This seems a retrograde step as it is useful to just have one page for 
comments, one page to update if the app moves, etc.  Was it announced here 
and I missed it?

Graham
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Re: Fwd: Network library on Maemo 4

[Lauro Moura]

On 11/19/07, Pierre Lamain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is something I don't understand.
> Does the libconic library handle TCP sockets ?
> Terje, I really need your documents and examples ;)
>

A diff from 3.2 and 4.0 libconic's headers show that the only changes
are in the comments (Renaming type from OssoIc* to ConIc*). The same
applies to this [1] version of libconic.

So, looks like that the bora/3.2 guide and examples can work without
further modifications in chinook/4.0, unless there are other changes
not documented (yet).

[1] https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/tags/libconic/0.13.mvo0/

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Re: installable deb package, Re: Data corruption on N770

[Frantisek Dufka]

Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> thanks for providing the package for OS2006, that is great news. I installed 
> it and it did not break anything as far as I can tell.

Thanks for the report.

> The only thing I am 
> surprised is that the module is reported as cx3110x  by lsmod:

Yes, it is just renamed on disk to not to conflict with the original one 
in case someone has modules in rootfs in /lib/modules/2.6.16.27-omap1 
too. Internal module name set at compile time is still cx3110x.

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Re: Fwd: Network library on Maemo 4

[Pierre Lamain]

There is something I don't understand.
Does the libconic library handle TCP sockets ?
Terje, I really need your documents and examples ;)

Pierre


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Re: Generated .deb package doesn't contain the executable file (was SPIM ported to Chinook)

[Daniel Martín Yerga]

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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:32:41 +0100
"Andrea Grandi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is the generated debian/control file: http://pastebin.ca/781435
> this is the SPIM Makefile: http://pastebin.ca/781447
> and this is the generated debian/rules: http://pastebin.ca/781444

I am not an expert packer, so I can say something that isn't true.

In the debian/rules of Debian distro for spim, the install order is
'dh_install' instead of '$(MAKE) DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/spim install'
in your debian/rules file. That could be the problem. I suppose
changing only it should give you the same problem, I do not know.

Another thing that I have noticed is that if debian/compat is 4,
DESTDIR it would be like yours 'DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/spim',
but if there isn't debian/compat or have other value, it could install
something (for example binary files) in 'DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp'
and others (for example documents, for dh_installdocs order) in
debian/spim. Or on the contrary, I don't remember very well.
Something similar has happened to me sometime.

I hope that what I say isn't a barbarity ;)

Cheers.
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Re: Maemo on other platforms

[Darius Jack]

Ok.
But Moblin stays for:
(from http://moblin.org/community_hw.php)

 The platform we are considering is the Samsung Q1 Ultra*, based on Intel's 
Mobile Internet Device.

Moblin - Samsung supported project (Intel)  vs. maemo - Nokia supported project 
 (TI) ?

Darius

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tj escreveu:
> I was looking at maemo and I have a question. It seems all I find is 
> application development for maemo, not anything about buidling maemo 
> itself, especially for other platforms besides the Nokias. can this be 
> done? Like build Maemo for an X86 single board like an Ampro Littleboard 
> with a compact flsh and a touch screen lcd?
>

Hi.

Check Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded and http://moblin.org.

[]s

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Re: TI frees its DSP toolchain for open source apps (?) - linuxdevices

[Simon Pickering]

>> We do already have a Linux Ti toolchain (
>> https://www-a.ti.com/downloads/sds_support/targetcontent/LinuxDspTools/index.html)
>>  which is for the C55x only (i.e. is useful to us). I'm not sure the release 
>> of another (similar afaict) toolchain for the C54x will make any odds to us 
>> (except perhaps that Ti are embracing open source developers 
>> :).
>
> Well the EULA says that it should be used only with TI development board
>(without exact definition what it is) so I am not sure that open
> source code can be compiled with it and result published for usage with
> 770 or N8x0 even if our tablets contain silicon made by TI and it is
> non-profit. Perhaps more friendly licencing terms similar to this C54x
> toolchain would be nice to have for our C55x toolchain too.

Good point.

Simon
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Re: TI frees its DSP toolchain for open source apps (?) - linuxdevices

[Frantisek Dufka]

Simon Pickering wrote:
> I'm not all together sure how this (the Google SoC project) differs 
> from the dspgateway, except perhaps for the choice of DSP. Why have yet 
> another way of bridging between ARM and DSP?

Either C54x architecture is more limited (no MMU? no space for 
multitasking core like DSP BIOS?) or this is really quick student hack 
for G-SoC without deep research for existing alternatives.

> We do already have a Linux Ti toolchain (
> https://www-a.ti.com/downloads/sds_support/targetcontent/LinuxDspTools/index.html)
>  which is for the C55x only (i.e. is useful to us). I'm not sure the release 
> of another (similar afaict) toolchain for the C54x will make any odds to us 
> (except perhaps that Ti are embracing open source developers 
> :).

Well the EULA says that it should be used only with TI development board 
   (without exact definition what it is) so I am not sure that open 
source code can be compiled with it and result published for usage with 
770 or N8x0 even if our tablets contain silicon made by TI and it is 
non-profit. Perhaps more friendly licencing terms similar to this C54x 
toolchain would be nice to have for our C55x toolchain too.

Frantisek
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mamona release

[pancake]

Hi Rodrigo!

I'm glad to see the first mamona release.

I have noticed that the instructions for using 0x are incorrect.

We want to provide users with a fully free stack, and it would be confusing 
them to
make them think they need the privative flasher, when that hasn't been true 
anymore.

So dupping the help for both flashers can be anoying.

Here's the page:

  http://dev.openbossa.org/trac/mamona/wiki/RunningMamona

The right way to flash a firmware piece would be:

  $ 0x -p rootfs.jffs2

It should automagically detect that this is a rootfs piece, but you can also 
specify it:

  $ 0x -p rootfs:rootfs.jffs2

If you find it interesting you can also explain how to pack/unpack fiasco 
images:

  $ 0x -P my-fiasco.img rootfs.jffs2

I hope to have enought disk and time space to have a closer look to the Mamona 
framework
this week, so I have read the FAQ and find it quite interesting in contrast to 
the
scratchbox one.

Best regards.

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Re: New developer - lots of questions

[Mohammed Hassan]

On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 21:49 +0200, ext Igor Stoppa wrote:
[snip]
> If disk space is not an issue for you, maybe you can do like me and
> use
> a chrooted environment for each sdk (i use it because I have a full
> 64bit system, but scratchbox is only 32 bit). I prefer this solution
> since it makes it quite easy to experiment: install your chrooted
> system, make a copy of it and feel free to trash it after
> experimenting.

I'm running amd64 on my home laptop (Debian lenny) and scratchbox runs
fine without any chroots.

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Re: TI frees its DSP toolchain for open source apps (?) - linuxdevices

[Simon Pickering]

>> FYI: Just found this news from TI about freeing the DSP toolchain to open
>> source developers,
>>
>> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4338556106.html
>>
>> http://open.neurostechnology.com/node/1020

I'm not all together sure how this (the Google SoC project) differs 
from the dspgateway, except perhaps for the choice of DSP. Why have yet 
another way of bridging between ARM and DSP?

>> Could someone (with more technical expertise then me) comment on this?
>>
>
> Please refer my post at linux-omap mailing list.
>
> http://linux.omap.com/pipermail/linux-omap-open-source/2007-November/012049.html

This is interesting, mainly for the dspfs and the request for more 
access to the IVA. Thanks for the link.

> I think neuros link mentions some G-SoC project which should have been
> merged with
> dspgateway driver developed mostly by Nokia for OMAP1/2, this way we

Certainly it ought to have been, or am I missing something - was it merged?

> are bringing
> support for lot's of DM series of boards and setting a playground for
> DaVinci related processors
> dspgateway support.

I had a look at the DaVinci processor information available from Ti and 
it seems they don't really want to give much away (probably because 
this is their current main model line or something like that).

We do already have a Linux Ti toolchain (
https://www-a.ti.com/downloads/sds_support/targetcontent/LinuxDspTools/index.html)
 which is for the C55x only (i.e. is useful to us). I'm not sure the release of 
another (similar afaict) toolchain for the C54x will make any odds to us 
(except perhaps that Ti are embracing open source developers 
:).


Simon

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Re: SPIM (MIPS assembly emulator) ported to Chinook: could someone test it?

[Tor]

Oops, replied to Kalle only which wasn't the addressee really.. sorry
about that, Kalle. New try:

> Or if you don't want to install the package:
>
> dpkg --contents package.deb

Or dpkg-deb -c
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Re: Clock() function of time.h

[Dionysis Petromanolakis]

Dear All,

I send once more my previous email... Also, have you any ideas for an 
alternative function to use in order to count time in Nokia 770?

Regards,

Dionysis

Dionysis Petromanolakis wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> has anyone used the "clock()" function in Maemo? If yes, do you think 
> that the result of it is actually true? I have the same question about 
> CLOCKS_PER_SEC value.
>
> Regards,
> Dionysis
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Re: Error shutting down os2008 in n800

[Jose Antonio Vacas Martinez]

Yes, I know that it's a hack and things like that may happen.
I only want to send information in order to prevent a bug in the final
version.

I cannot wait final version, it's so goood.



On Nov 19, 2007 9:08 AM, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "ext Jose Antonio Vacas Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I've installed os2008 in mi n800 (following this
> > recipe)
> > and it works really, really good  (goog jobs nokia!!).
> > Only got a weird behaviour: when shutting down using the menu (short
> press
> > the on/off button) the screen became black  but the n800 is not shut
> down
> > properly (2-3 hours later the battery is drained). When press the on/off
> > button the system doesn't start, I've to remove the battery in order to
> make
> > the system run.
>
> I'm not suprised. If you make a hack something like that, some
> software parts might (will?) be broken.
>
> My advice: wait for the official image.
>
> (Disclaimer: this is strictly a personal comment, not an official
> statement from Nokia etc.)
>
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Re: Error shutting down os2008 in n800

[Kalle Valo]

"ext Jose Antonio Vacas Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've installed os2008 in mi n800 (following this
> recipe)
> and it works really, really good  (goog jobs nokia!!).
> Only got a weird behaviour: when shutting down using the menu (short press
> the on/off button) the screen became black  but the n800 is not shut down
> properly (2-3 hours later the battery is drained). When press the on/off
> button the system doesn't start, I've to remove the battery in order to make
> the system run.

I'm not suprised. If you make a hack something like that, some
software parts might (will?) be broken.

My advice: wait for the official image.

(Disclaimer: this is strictly a personal comment, not an official
statement from Nokia etc.)

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