Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 01:09 +0200, ext Simon Pickering wrote: Hi all Hi you So all in all it's still work in progress, but it does at least work well enough to test. Except that I use dialogs to ask the user if they want to open a decoded URL/add a decoded vCard, and if these dialogs are displayed the UI locks up straight afterwards. If I comment them out the code continues quite happily after opening the browser/adding the URL, so the fault must presumably lie with the dialogs. What kind of windows you are playing with? We have a special feature in Fremantle where Gtk+ dialogs do not use pointer grabs anymore (*, so it's possible that Gtk+ gets confused there when it does not receive the pointer events. *) This is done to allow the touch screen lock to do the pointer grab and discard all pointer events even if a dialog is open. -Kimmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
For 1D codes mbarcode will attempt a very basic webscrape of Amazon and will (hopefully) return a title (rather than a segfault). For URLs encoded in a QR code/datamatrix it will open the webbrowser and for vCards it will add them to your contacts. Why is it necessary to do a webscrape of Amazon. Amazon has plenty of simple APIs for getting data freely and easily. The REST based ones are extremely simple and you get back an XML document with everything you need. It quite possibly isn't necessary, this is certainly not my area of expertise, just something I wanted to get working ASAP. When I looked at how to do this I found a mixture of web scraping tools and ones that use Amazon Web Services. AFAIK AWS requires that you register to obtain a key, and I'm not sure of the exact terms and conditions, but I presume they will not want me to share my key, but I may be wrong about this. I guess you're also talking about AWS? What is your take on the key issues - share mine, or get each user to register themselves and get a key? Perhaps the registration could be automated. Any thoughts? Patches welcome of course. Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
Hi Kimmo, So all in all it's still work in progress, but it does at least work well enough to test. Except that I use dialogs to ask the user if they want to open a decoded URL/add a decoded vCard, and if these dialogs are displayed the UI locks up straight afterwards. If I comment them out the code continues quite happily after opening the browser/adding the URL, so the fault must presumably lie with the dialogs. What kind of windows you are playing with? We have a special feature in Fremantle where Gtk+ dialogs do not use pointer grabs anymore (*, so it's possible that Gtk+ gets confused there when it does not receive the pointer events. *) This is done to allow the touch screen lock to do the pointer grab and discard all pointer events even if a dialog is open. It's just a plain dialog afaik (GUIs also not being my area of expertise). The dialog does close, so I imagine that means it's getting the click event, but after it closes the rest of the UI locks up. The exact code is here: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/branches/simon_wip/maemo-barcode/web.c?revision=103root=maemo-barcodeview=markup Scroll right to the bottom to see either the openURL() or addVCard() functions, which are the ones that use dialogs and then lock up. Thanks, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Garage down for a while
Hi all, Garage is down for a disk upgrade. It ran full and needs some more space. Estimate is in the ball park of an hour or so. Hope you understand. Thanks, Tero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
For 1D codes mbarcode will attempt a very basic webscrape of Amazon and will (hopefully) return a title (rather than a segfault). For URLs encoded in a QR code/datamatrix it will open the webbrowser and for vCards it will add them to your contacts. Why is it necessary to do a webscrape of Amazon. Amazon has plenty of simple APIs for getting data freely and easily. The REST based ones are extremely simple and you get back an XML document with everything you need. It quite possibly isn't necessary, this is certainly not my area of expertise, just something I wanted to get working ASAP. When I looked at how to do this I found a mixture of web scraping tools and ones that use Amazon Web Services. AFAIK AWS requires that you register to obtain a key, and I'm not sure of the exact terms and conditions, but I presume they will not want me to share my key, but I may be wrong about this. Replying to myself, another option (which is the same one that Android Scan/CompareEverywhere uses) would be to move the scraping to a server. This might let me use a single key for all the queries (though it may still break the terms and conditions, I'd have to look) and would also reduce on-device processing and the amount of data that needs to be transferred. Or we could try hooking into the Android Scan/CompareEverywhere webservice ;) Any thoughts? Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Garage down for a while
PWSafe 1.5.5a appeared in the repository : thanks to anyone who did it ! Le 15/10/2009 10:05, tero.k...@nokia.com a écrit : Hi all, Garage is down for a disk upgrade. It ran full and needs some more space. Estimate is in the ball park of an hour or so. Hope you understand. Thanks, Tero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo 5 Keymaps - The Saga of Pipe Tab
fn-backspace for esc, fn-enter for tab, or whatever else you want. The key is, once we figure this out, you can remap to your heart's content. ;) ASCII has has 33 control characters, among which tab and esc. These can be typed in your terminal through control-something. For example, CTRL-I is tab, CTRL-[ is escape, CTRL-H is backspace (destructive) and CTRL-M is enter. This is not really a solution to all the problems, but at least you can type tabs without the on screen keyboard. Cheers, Roald ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Changes in Fremantle packages interface dependency checking
Hi, I've changed the repositories used for dependency checking in the maemo.org/packages interface for all extras armel repositories. Now checking is done against packages that are actually available on the device root filesystem and the Nokia Applications repository (which is enabled by default) We had issues with some packages being in the SDK, but not on the device. These packages were in the SDK to satisfy dependencies of SDK tools, but of course also satisfied dependencies if your app needed them. This made it hard for developers to detect the real dependencies for their app. Please check if the dependencies for your app in m.o/packages look ok. If there is suddenly a missing dependency, then try to make sure if that is actually the case. Contact me if you think there is a problem. -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
On Thursday 15 October 2009 09:10:44 Simon Pickering wrote: Replying to myself, another option (which is the same one that Android Scan/CompareEverywhere uses) would be to move the scraping to a server. This might let me use a single key for all the queries (though it may still break the terms and conditions, I'd have to look) and would also reduce on-device processing and the amount of data that needs to be transferred. While you are tolerating discussion of enhancements!... If you do use a server, it would be great if you implemented an offline mode where I could scan barcodes all day without network connectivity and, later, process them when I am online. Some of the places one might want to scan barcodes (barcodes on display adverts, on buildings like in Westergasfabriek, or in warehouses) might not have great network connectivity. Most professional barcode readers which I know of seem to do the scanning offline and process the barcodes once they are plugged into their docking/charging station. This brings up a slightly larger question of how modular is your current implementation? It feels like it would be good to have a library (accessible from C and Python) which would have an API like scan the barcode the user is currently pointing the camera at and give me back something that tells me what sort of barcode it was and the data it contains (maybe with some sort of callbacks to allow some user interaction if needed to give them help/feedback with the scanning). The subsequent processing (database, lookup, etc, etc.) is the sort of thing that various people might create separate applications for, although it might be useful to expose some useful APIs there as well: lookup this barcode number on Amazon, save this barcode in barcode database called 'My Books', etc. Is that how it works at the moment or something you are looking in to? Graham ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 10:43 +0100, Graham Cobb wrote: On Thursday 15 October 2009 09:10:44 Simon Pickering wrote: Replying to myself, another option (which is the same one that Android Scan/CompareEverywhere uses) would be to move the scraping to a server. This might let me use a single key for all the queries (though it may still break the terms and conditions, I'd have to look) and would also reduce on-device processing and the amount of data that needs to be transferred. While you are tolerating discussion of enhancements!... lol :) If you do use a server, it would be great if you implemented an offline mode where I could scan barcodes all day without network connectivity and, later, process them when I am online. Some of the places one might want to scan barcodes (barcodes on display adverts, on buildings like in Westergasfabriek, or in warehouses) might not have great network connectivity. Most professional barcode readers which I know of seem to do the scanning offline and process the barcodes once they are plugged into their docking/charging station. Yes, in any case I was planning on allowing the raw data to be saved if a lookup is not possible (for e.g. isbns and also for web urls, etc.), I currently assume an internet connection (which should apparently be fine for Fremantle ;)), but I need to get the code to ask for one and/or have an offline scanning setting (oh dear more gui elements - a menu!) This brings up a slightly larger question of how modular is your current implementation? It feels like it would be good to have a library (accessible from C and Python) which would have an API like scan the barcode the user is currently pointing the camera at and give me back something that tells me what sort of barcode it was and the data it contains (maybe with some sort of callbacks to allow some user interaction if needed to give them help/feedback with the scanning). The subsequent processing (database, lookup, etc, etc.) is the sort of thing that various people might create separate applications for, although it might be useful to expose some useful APIs there as well: lookup this barcode number on Amazon, save this barcode in barcode database called 'My Books', etc. Is that how it works at the moment or something you are looking in to? Yes this is indeed a good idea. At the moment it's not modular as everything is mixed in, however the code is structured such that it won't take long to separate out the processing from the video taking from the gui etc. The question is then how many separate layers? I guess a wrapper/lib to process a barcode from an image buffer. An extra optional layer that can be placed ontop of this to allow the user to see what they are pointing at and to click Scan! (which we may do away with once the camera app is opened up, then we can add the bottom-most layer as a plugin to optionally analyse stuff taken with the main camera app). On top of these/using these one can do the other stuff such as web-lookups, databases, etc. The web-lookups should possibly also be part of the bottom-most layer though, or perhaps separated off into their own package as they will generally be needed no matter the app. Someone mentioned sending the barcodes out over DBUS, is this of interest? Any use cases? So I'm more than happy to do this (after I look at libgdigicam to work out how to focus the N900's camera and turn the LED on), as long as people want to use it, I don't want to waste time chopping things up if no-one wants to use it afterwards. Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo 5 Keymaps - The Saga of Pipe Tab
Ville M. Vainio wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Ryan Abel rabe...@gmail.com wrote: So qwerty12 compiled a patched xev, I grabbed keycodes and I spent a couple hours trying to convince the device that it'd be a really great idea for shift-fn-b to send a pipe, for fn-right arrow to send tab, and a dozen other shifted and unshifted combinations. FWIW, I think selecting those chars from touch screen (fn + sym) isn't all that bad - probably easier than shift + fn + something. fn + right would make sense though. I guess you have to know that's what you have to do first... I couldn't figure out how to put accents on letters for text messages :) Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Optification breaks package on upgrade from non-optified older version
Hello! In the latest version of gPodder (written in Python), I have started using maemo-optify. It saves around 1 MB according to maemo-optify's output. The problem is that now when a user upgrades from an older version to this version, it breaks (the user cannot start the application from the icon, and starting it from the command line tells me that Python can't find the gpodder module). Uninstalling and re-installing the package fixes this problem, but I assume there will be lots of users upgrading from the current version in Extras (non-optified) to some optified version in the future, and they won't just try to uninstall and re-install it and assume that the application is at fault :/ Is it possible to fix that problem somehow? Or should I just disable optification? Another problem is the slower startup speed, which is really noticeable now. That's another reason why I would like to go without optification. Thanks, Thomas ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo 5 Keymaps - The Saga of Pipe Tab
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Roald de Vries wrote: fn-backspace for esc, fn-enter for tab, or whatever else you want. The key is, once we figure this out, you can remap to your heart's content. ;) ASCII has has 33 control characters, among which tab and esc. These can be typed in your terminal through control-something. For example, CTRL-I is tab, CTRL-[ is escape, CTRL-H is backspace (destructive) and CTRL-M is enter. This is not really a solution to all the problems, but at least you can type tabs without the on screen keyboard. This is not exact. It might work in a terminal emulator, but it is not a universal thing. Tab and Esc are useful in a lot of programs (such as Esc for stop current page loading in a browser, and inserting a Tab in a word processor), and there those CTRL characters do not replace them. -- Matan. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo 5 Keymaps - The Saga of Pipe Tab
Hi, Matan Ziv-Av wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Roald de Vries wrote: This is not exact. It might work in a terminal emulator, but it is not a universal thing. Tab and Esc are useful in a lot of programs (such as Esc for stop current page loading in a browser, and inserting a Tab in a word processor), and there those CTRL characters do not replace them. That's alright but you must keep in mind you are not on a desktop computer and porting an application to Fremantle also passes through providing alternatives to non-existing keys. I really don't think this is an issue and I don't mind to press on two buttons to get a keys dialog instead of using obscure key bindings that aren't even print on the hardware keyboard. Cheers, -- Joaquim Rocha signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Optification breaks package on upgrade from non-optified older version
On Thursday 15 October 2009 12:21:54 Thomas Perl wrote: Another problem is the slower startup speed, which is really noticeable now. That's another reason why I would like to go without optification. From what I heard that was also the reason why python (and Qt) are/were not optified, but apparently a choice will have to be made - speed or application space, but while speed is a 'should', application space is a 'must'. I wonder if some sort of optification could be done on the device itself, as in make it optional or a choice - this stuff I use often and I don't want it optified, while somehing else used rarely can be on /opt so it would not take up space on /. Not sure about the actual mechanism to do this, just thinking out loud. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo 5 Keymaps - The Saga of Pipe Tab
ASCII has has 33 control characters, among which tab and esc. These can be typed in your terminal through control-something. For example, CTRL-I is tab, CTRL-[ is escape, CTRL-H is backspace (destructive) and CTRL-M is enter. This is not really a solution to all the problems, but at least you can type tabs without the on screen keyboard. This is not exact. It might work in a terminal emulator, but it is not a universal thing. Tab and Esc are useful in a lot of programs (such as Esc for stop current page loading in a browser, and inserting a Tab in a word processor), and there those CTRL characters do not replace them. I didn't claim it was a universal thing. It works in a terminal. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Optification breaks package on upgrade from non-optified older version
ext Thomas Perl wrote: Hello! In the latest version of gPodder (written in Python), I have started using maemo-optify. It saves around 1 MB according to maemo-optify's output. The problem is that now when a user upgrades from an older version to this version, it breaks (the user cannot start the application from the icon, and starting it from the command line tells me that Python can't find the gpodder module). Uninstalling and re-installing the package fixes this problem, but I assume there will be lots of users upgrading from the current version in Extras (non-optified) to some optified version in the future, and they won't just try to uninstall and re-install it and assume that the application is at fault :/ lots of users before sales start = actually not that many and all of them quite savvy and even probably reflashing at this point. Thanks for you report though. It's clearer that unless we find several solutions the time for optification is NOW, or whenever a developer is pushing a first release to Extras. Is it possible to fix that problem somehow? Or should I just disable optification? Another problem is the slower startup speed, which is really noticeable now. That's another reason why I would like to go without optification. Thanks, Thomas -- Quim Gil open source advocate Maemo Devices @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Optification breaks package on upgrade from non-optified older version
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Attila Csipa wrote: On Thursday 15 October 2009 12:21:54 Thomas Perl wrote: Another problem is the slower startup speed, which is really noticeable now. That's another reason why I would like to go without optification. From what I heard that was also the reason why python (and Qt) are/were not optified, but apparently a choice will have to be made - speed or application space, but while speed is a 'should', application space is a 'must'. I wonder if some sort of optification could be done on the device itself, as in make it optional or a choice - this stuff I use often and I don't want it optified, while somehing else used rarely can be on /opt so it would not take up space on /. Not sure about the actual mechanism to do this, just thinking out loud. Why not do something simple like leave all packages installing in the regular place, and running on the device something like cp -a /usr /home/ mv /usr /usr2 ln -s /home/usr /usr rm -rf /usr2 Every linux user who partitioned his disk wrongly has done something like this. All this requires is that bootup scripts do not use files under /usr before /home is mounted, but that's supposed to be true anyway. -- Matan. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Optification breaks package on upgrade from non-optified older version
- Original message - Uninstalling and re-installing the package fixes this problem, but I assume there will be lots of users upgrading from the current version in Extras (non-optified) to some optified version in the future, and they won't just try to uninstall and re-install it and assume that the application is at fault :/ Not too many at the moment, I hope, but as this may be a source of problems in the future it is important that we minimise the need to upgrade from non-optified to optified by getting everything optified asap. Let's concentrate our testing on the optified versions. Is it possible to fix that problem somehow? Or should I just disable optification? Definitely not. There is too little space to allow non-optified apps to go into extras in the future. Another problem is the slower startup speed, which is really noticeable now. That's another reason why I would like to go without optification. If you could quantify this and/or do some investigation of what, in particular, is causing the slowdown it would be very useful. We have to find some way to move most of the app's storage to /home and the better we understand the impacts the better the solution can be. Graham ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Optification breaks package on upgrade from non-optified older version
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:21:54PM +0200, Thomas Perl wrote: In the latest version of gPodder (written in Python), I have started using maemo-optify. It saves around 1 MB according to maemo-optify's output. The problem is that now when a user upgrades from an older version to this version, it breaks (the user cannot start the application from the icon, and starting it from the command line tells me that Python can't find the gpodder module). That's a packaging bug, from the user's perspective. Uninstalling and re-installing the package fixes this problem, but I assume there will be lots of users upgrading from the current version in Extras (non-optified) to some optified version in the future, and they won't just try to uninstall and re-install it and assume that the application is at fault :/ Is it possible to fix that problem somehow? Or should I just disable optification? What's the practical difference between upgrading and removing-then-reinstalling? (It probably shows that I haven't read the maemo-optify and python apps thread.) Maybe you could fix the upgrade problem by writing a suitable preinst script? Another problem is the slower startup speed, which is really noticeable now. That's another reason why I would like to go without optification. Ouch. Have you done any measurements? Marius Gedminas -- Bumper sticker: No radio - Already stolen. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Optification breaks package on upgrade from non-optified older version
ext Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt writes: Uninstalling and re-installing the package fixes this problem, but I assume there will be lots of users upgrading from the current version in Extras (non-optified) to some optified version in the future, and they won't just try to uninstall and re-install it and assume that the application is at fault :/ Is it possible to fix that problem somehow? Or should I just disable optification? What's the practical difference between upgrading and removing-then-reinstalling? (It probably shows that I haven't read the maemo-optify and python apps thread.) Maybe you could fix the upgrade problem by writing a suitable preinst script? I will have a close look at this soonish. Right now I assume that we need to 'fix' dpkg somehow to get over this, but hopefully not. In any case having upgrades break because of maemo-optify is of course quite severe and I/we need to fix this 'asap'. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo 5 Keymaps - The Saga of Pipe Tab
On Oct 15, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Joaquim Rocha wrote: Matan Ziv-Av wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Roald de Vries wrote: This is not exact. It might work in a terminal emulator, but it is not a universal thing. Tab and Esc are useful in a lot of programs (such as Esc for stop current page loading in a browser, and inserting a Tab in a word processor), and there those CTRL characters do not replace them. That's alright but you must keep in mind you are not on a desktop computer and porting an application to Fremantle also passes through providing alternatives to non-existing keys. I really don't think this is an issue and I don't mind to press on two buttons to get a keys dialog instead of using obscure key bindings that aren't even print on the hardware keyboard. I do, however, and there's little reason to hamstring yourself if there's no need to. :) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
PyMaemo (Python for Maemo) release candidate for Maemo 5 (Fremantle)
Hi, The PyMaemo team is pleased to announce the release candidate of PyMaemo for Maemo 5! This new release is currently available through the extras-devel repository, for installation instructions see: http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/installation.html. Note that some PyMaemo packages were automatically promoted to extras-testing/extras because they are dependencies from other promoted applications, so you might be already using the latest versions. We also are proud to present the new look for the PyMaemo website: http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/. Comments are welcome :). As part of the new website organization, we moved most of the documentation to the wiki, so the community can easily contribute with fixes/updates to it: http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo What is it? -- Python for Maemo (PyMaemo for short) main objective is to make possible to use Python programming language as the scripting and development language for Maemo Platform, providing a better alternative for fast prototyping and programming in Maemo environment besides the C programming language. Python is for serious programming and to have fun. Python has a nice syntax, it is easy to learn and powerful enough for a vast range of applications, this is why we choose Python for Maemo. What has changed? --- New packages: * python-alarm: 0.1-0maemo1 + complete rewrite of libalarm bindings, now using Cython (note that the API has changed a lot since Diablo, for now check the C API documentation[1] for reference) Updated packages: * python-hildon: 0.9.0-1maemo13 + Lots of bug fixes (including adding a few missing API) * cython: 0.11.2-1maemo1 + Update to latest package in Debian. * gst0.10-python: 0.10.14-2maemo5 + Add python2.5-gstreamer to Provides/Replaces/Conflicts keywords * pyclutter: 0.8.0-1maemo3 + Add opengles-sgx-img-common-dev as an alternative dependency to libgl-dev (libgl-dev was removed from Maemo 5 final ARMEL SDK) * python-osso: 0.4-0maemo1 + Complete rewrite using Cython (earlier version had subtle bugs due to missing sanity checks), plus a few API updates. This new version is API compatible with previous one. * python2.5: 2.5.4-1maemo2 + Drop sbox-ld-preload.dpatch. * pygtk: 2.12.1-6maemo8 + Add mising Maemo specific API and some python2.6 compatibility fixes (note that we do not support python2.6 in Maemo 5, this is a future proof fix). * python-hildondesktop: 0.0.3-1maemo2 + Add support for Status Menu widgets. * ipython: 0.10-1maemo1 + Update to latest release from Debian Bugs fixed: MB#4782, MB#4821, MB#4897, MB#4920, MB#4923, MB#4936, MB#4947, MB#4957, MB#4969, MB#4977, MB#5015, MB#5026, MB#5027, MB#5096, MB#5102, MB#5143, MB#5164, MB#5199, MB#5226, MB#5244 Known issues - python-mafw (Python bindings for MAFW) is still considered alpha quality, and there are a couple of known issues on it: MB#4919: python-mafw: list of missing types to complete methods bindings MB#4824: python-mafw: source_browsing.py example does not work MB#4932: python-mafw: mafw.Source.browse() method is missing MB#4839: python-mafw: mafw.Registry lacks list_plugins() method MB#4849: python-mafw: MafwPluginDescriptorPublic structure is missing Hildon Widgets written in Python may not appear on the Add widget list (see MB#5232). We already have a partial fix for the problem, and will upload a new version for python-hildondesktop soon. As a workaround, you can start the widgets from the command line, as standalone programs. See http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/HildonDesktop for an example on how to do this. There are some bugs in the current documentation for python-hildon (namely the Python Hildon tutorial and reference manual, see MB#5091 and MB#5141). Due to a mistake while upgrading to the new website layout, this documentation is temporarily unavailable. We are working to fix this and will make them available soon. There are no bindings for GUPnP (MB#4829), libhildonmime (MB#5157), as well for various other Maemo 5 components. We plan to work on providing bindings for these components during the Maemo 5 life cycle. The PyMaemo base set of packages take considerable storage space (MB#5364). We already started experiments with the maemo-optify tool to install biggest things out of root fs, and we plan to reduce a plenty of storage usage by cutting unnecessary things (such as some remaining documentation). Expect next releases to reduce storage usage gradually. We will not migrate to python2.6 in Maemo 5 due to a (unresolved) bug (MB#4734 [18]), where a core SDK package explicitly conflicts with python = 2.6, preventing any further upgrades from the 2.5.x series. This release is supposed to be compatible with previous releases. If you have any issues regarding building or running your Python application on Maemo 5, feel free to contact us (see below for how to contact the PyMaemo team and report bugs). Acknowledgments: - Thanks to everybody who helped making this release
Cmake + Armel + Fremantle = Segfault
According to a set of posts on this mailing list this is a known issue (http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-developers@maemo.org/msg20041.html); but I didn't see a resolution to this. As more developers start working on moving packages to the fremantle OS, this is going to crop up more and more. Can we come to some sort of conclusion on this so that we can get this fixed asap? The only two solutions I've seen presented are: 1. Putting of a non-arm binary in the extras-devel repository (i.e. a scratchbox host x86 cmake) so that we can use it as a dependancy. 2. Or the gatekeepers of the builder to add a new cmake to the devkit in the auto-build environment -- and have this cmake published (in a garage project?) so that the devs can get it so they can use it locally to test the compiling of apps on their scratchboxes armel targets. I think the devkit-cmake (or maybe it should be named scratchbox-cmake) idea is the simplist to implement -- and doesn't require the build-keepers to do anything. Or do we need to create a new repository (i.e. fremantle/scratchbox) so that any other tools we find broken in the future can be put in their to keep x86 binaries out of the repository. Nathan. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Cmake + Armel + Fremantle = Segfault
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Nathan Anderson nat...@andersonsplace.net wrote: According to a set of posts on this mailing list this is a known issue (http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-developers@maemo.org/msg20041.html); but I didn't see a resolution to this. As more developers start working on moving packages to the fremantle OS, this is going to crop up more and more. Can we come to some sort of conclusion on this so that we can get this fixed asap? I just remembered why I didn't upload my modified cmake packages to fremantle extras-devel (besides the fact it being a x86 binary available through extras-devel for ARMEL looks strange). It was told that at some point a scratchbox update would contain cmake on it. I'm not sure if this is the case, or even if the fremantle autobuilder has this new version (if it exists). Regards, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Wikifying the /opt problem
Hi all, I have been following this discussion on /opt. Just had an lazy evening thinking the problem so I whipped up a wiki page. Check and edit: http://wiki.maemo.org/Opt_Problem -- VRe :: http://iki.fi/vre :: +358 40 5775 456 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
On 15.10.2009 10:57, Simon Pickering wrote: For 1D codes mbarcode will attempt a very basic webscrape of Amazon and will (hopefully) return a title (rather than a segfault). For URLs encoded in a QR code/datamatrix it will open the webbrowser and for vCards it will add them to your contacts. Why is it necessary to do a webscrape of Amazon. Amazon has plenty of simple APIs for getting data freely and easily. The REST based ones are extremely simple and you get back an XML document with everything you need. It quite possibly isn't necessary, this is certainly not my area of expertise, just something I wanted to get working ASAP. When I looked at how to do this I found a mixture of web scraping tools and ones that use Amazon Web Services. AFAIK AWS requires that you register to obtain a key, and I'm not sure of the exact terms and conditions, but I presume they will not want me to share my key, but I may be wrong about this. I guess you're also talking about AWS? What is your take on the key issues - share mine, or get each user to register themselves and get a key? Perhaps the registration could be automated. Any thoughts? Patches welcome of course. Cheer I'm pretty sure you are able to share the key. I do have an AWS account and have used it for my own stuff (in Java though). But all those applications around must have a key embedded since they never ask you to register yourself. There must be some other open source applications around that fetch data from Amazon using AWS. Amazon did make things a little more complicated a few months ago though. All requests must be signed, but they generally provide code samples for how to do everything. One thing is to check the licensing of the interfaces. There was something recently about different licensing between mobile devices and other uses that came up with the iPhone. But the advantage is that you won't have any problem with the page layout breaking things. Plus their APIs provide pretty much every detail about an item you could think of. Jody ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
Hi Jody, On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 21:42 +0300, Jody Fanning wrote: On 15.10.2009 10:57, Simon Pickering wrote: For 1D codes mbarcode will attempt a very basic webscrape of Amazon and will (hopefully) return a title (rather than a segfault). For URLs encoded in a QR code/datamatrix it will open the webbrowser and for vCards it will add them to your contacts. Why is it necessary to do a webscrape of Amazon. Amazon has plenty of simple APIs for getting data freely and easily. The REST based ones are extremely simple and you get back an XML document with everything you need. It quite possibly isn't necessary, this is certainly not my area of expertise, just something I wanted to get working ASAP. When I looked at how to do this I found a mixture of web scraping tools and ones that use Amazon Web Services. AFAIK AWS requires that you register to obtain a key, and I'm not sure of the exact terms and conditions, but I presume they will not want me to share my key, but I may be wrong about this. I guess you're also talking about AWS? What is your take on the key issues - share mine, or get each user to register themselves and get a key? Perhaps the registration could be automated. Any thoughts? Patches welcome of course. Cheer I'm pretty sure you are able to share the key. I do have an AWS account and have used it for my own stuff (in Java though). But all those applications around must have a key embedded since they never ask you to register yourself. There must be some other open source applications around that fetch data from Amazon using AWS. Amazon did make things a little more complicated a few months ago though. All requests must be signed, but they generally provide code samples for how to do everything. One thing is to check the licensing of the interfaces. There was something recently about different licensing between mobile devices and other uses that came up with the iPhone. But the advantage is that you won't have any problem with the page layout breaking things. Plus their APIs provide pretty much every detail about an item you could think of. OK thank you, I'll take a look at this. Of course if anyone knows about this and/or wants to submit code patches, they will be greatly appreciated! Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
all garage projects: svn repos go read-only
Hello, In order to complete today's actions with the disk rearrangements on garage we need to disable write access to the svn repos. This will last until the repos are mirrored to the new disk which is expected to take a couple of hours. Full access will be turned on as soon as rsync finished the job. I am very sorry for the inconvenience. Cheers, ferenc -- maemo.org sysadmin, developer email: fer...@maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mbarcode/maemo-barcode dialog oddity and progress report
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 09:42:40PM +0300, Jody Fanning wrote: On 15.10.2009 10:57, Simon Pickering wrote: Why is it necessary to do a webscrape of Amazon. Amazon has plenty of simple APIs for getting data freely and easily. The REST based ones are extremely simple and you get back an XML document with everything you need. It quite possibly isn't necessary, this is certainly not my area of expertise, just something I wanted to get working ASAP. When I looked at how to do this I found a mixture of web scraping tools and ones that use Amazon Web Services. AFAIK AWS requires that you register to obtain a key, and I'm not sure of the exact terms and conditions, but I presume they will not want me to share my key, but I may be wrong about this. I'm pretty sure you are able to share the key. I do have an AWS account and have used it for my own stuff (in Java though). But all those applications around must have a key embedded since they never ask you to register yourself. There must be some other open source applications around that fetch data from Amazon using AWS. Calibre, for one. The key is embedded right there in the sources. I don't know if they're allowed to do that since I was too lazy to actually read the AWS agreement. (Shh! Don't tell anyone.) I applied for an AWS key, got two (one called access key, the other called secret access key), did some experiments with pyaws (a Python library for accessing the AWS). I couldn't get it to work with just the AWS key, I needed to supply both. I don't know how Calibre manages to do its thing with just one key (or maybe it's broken now -- I couldn't figure out the user interface and ran away screaming to invent my own library management system). Amazon did make things a little more complicated a few months ago though. All requests must be signed, This might mean that Calibre was using old unsigned requests at the time I looked at its source code. but they generally provide code samples for how to do everything. One thing is to check the licensing of the interfaces. There was something recently about different licensing between mobile devices and other uses that came up with the iPhone. But the advantage is that you won't have any problem with the page layout breaking things. Plus their APIs provide pretty much every detail about an item you could think of. Marius Gedminas -- Give a man a computer program and you give him a headache, but teach him to program computers and you give him the power to create headaches for others for the rest of his life... -- R. B. Forest signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Cmake + Armel + Fremantle = Segfault
On Thursday 15 October 2009 19:12:14 Anderson Lizardo wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Nathan Anderson nat...@andersonsplace.net wrote: According to a set of posts on this mailing list this is a known issue (http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-developers@maemo.org/msg20041.html); but I didn't see a resolution to this. As more developers start working on moving packages to the fremantle OS, this is going to crop up more and more. Can we come to some sort of conclusion on this so that we can get this fixed asap? I just remembered why I didn't upload my modified cmake packages to fremantle extras-devel (besides the fact it being a x86 binary available through extras-devel for ARMEL looks strange). It was told that at some point a scratchbox update would contain cmake on it. I'm not sure if this is the case, or even if the fremantle autobuilder has this new version (if it exists). I was told by some nokia person that the recently released SDK would indeed contain cmake, but it appears this didn't happen... I'll check what's going on here... Marijn ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Uploading to Fremantle extras via Extras Assistant
any news why this is not working for me anymore??? it used to work before, I didn't change anything and now it says that the changes file (I used to upload fine) now it's invalid. I can't upload new packages of Xournal because of this. -- anidel 2009/10/9 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: I am trying to upload a new version of Xournal in order to promote it to Testing, but the extras assistant keeps saying my changes is incorrect. I haven't changed anything and was working fine for fremantle-beta, do I have to do something? -- -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Uploading to Fremantle extras via Extras Assistant
uhm.. I've upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and I think I've lost my keys? (WARNING: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file) But I am uploading via web interface, should not be an issue, should it? -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom 2009/10/15 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: any news why this is not working for me anymore??? it used to work before, I didn't change anything and now it says that the changes file (I used to upload fine) now it's invalid. I can't upload new packages of Xournal because of this. -- anidel 2009/10/9 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: I am trying to upload a new version of Xournal in order to promote it to Testing, but the extras assistant keeps saying my changes is incorrect. I haven't changed anything and was working fine for fremantle-beta, do I have to do something? -- -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Uploading to Fremantle extras via Extras Assistant
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:59:05PM +0100, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: uhm.. I've upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and I think I've lost my keys? (WARNING: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file) But I am uploading via web interface, should not be an issue, should it? No, signing is not needed for EA. Can you upload the .changes file somewhere so we could take a look and try to guess why Extras Assistant is unhappy? One guess: I haven't changed anything and was working fine for fremantle-beta, do I have to do something? Are you trying to re-upload the same .changes file you've already uploaded once? You can't do that, you need to increment the version number and rebuild the source package. Marius Gedminas -- (Pdb) operationerr.w_value.w_value.w_value.w_value.w_value.w_value pypy.interpreter.executioncontext.OperationError instance at 0x5eee30 -- one of the clearer PyPy debugging sessions (seen in Michael Hudson's sig) signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Uploading to Fremantle extras via Extras Assistant
I think I can re-upload the same version and it'll be accepted, but later rejected at compilation time because of the same version. I will try re-uploading the package with a new version, but I am sure version 10 is the latest and 11 is the newest (never uploaded). Attached is the .changes file (i've tried both of them) -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom 2009/10/15 Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:59:05PM +0100, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: uhm.. I've upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 and I think I've lost my keys? (WARNING: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file) But I am uploading via web interface, should not be an issue, should it? No, signing is not needed for EA. Can you upload the .changes file somewhere so we could take a look and try to guess why Extras Assistant is unhappy? One guess: I haven't changed anything and was working fine for fremantle-beta, do I have to do something? Are you trying to re-upload the same .changes file you've already uploaded once? You can't do that, you need to increment the version number and rebuild the source package. Marius Gedminas -- (Pdb) operationerr.w_value.w_value.w_value.w_value.w_value.w_value pypy.interpreter.executioncontext.OperationError instance at 0x5eee30 -- one of the clearer PyPy debugging sessions (seen in Michael Hudson's sig) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFK153JkVdEXeem148RAr5rAJ4v+FKYj3Zs3GbIbOTTJ29j0OJI9gCfdk4e i3HbFrU4p/d4r+ZZ5sqVkpc= =T+j3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Uploading to Fremantle extras via Extras Assistant
On Oct 16, 2009, at 24:13, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: I think I can re-upload the same version and it'll be accepted, but later rejected at compilation time because of the same version. I will try re-uploading the package with a new version, but I am sure version 10 is the latest and 11 is the newest (never uploaded). Attached is the .changes file (i've tried both of them) Perhaps you forgot to attach your changes files? Jeremiah ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
