Re: Nokia device usage
Mark wrote: You're putting words in my mouth. I never said that. I said that they were either Linux or Mac fanboys OR were simply targeting the most common OS. I don't personally disagree with Mark's statement, except for the wording. I would have put it as: But NOT impossible, and the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of malware writers are either gunning for the OS that is installed on the overwhelming majority of PCs worldwide, or to a lesser extent are Mac or Linux fanboys and aren't about to attack their own pet OS or they are simply . I would say that was a truer statement. IMO, there are just as many Unix weenies and Windows hackers that write Viruses. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 3G + iphone - not so fast
HSDPA (3.5G)? Also, was this comparing 3G to EVDO? In the UK, all the 3G that O2 provides is HSDPA and it is blazingly fast. No offence to the people in the States, but your GSM network is in the stone age. I'd def go for EVDO if I was in the States. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Mar 2009, at 19:48, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, maybe some of you have seen this already. but today I came across the following utube video which attempts to separate fact from fiction with respect to ATT's 3g service when used with the Iphone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaN1Nz1Dylseurl=http://www.jasonball.com/techbytes/2008/09/would-the-real-iphone-please-stand-up.htmlfeature=player_embedded According to the video's creator, the unscientific measurement of performance was done in an area of Boston, Ma that has a strong 3g signal. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Twitter shell for N810 ?
Whet or curl will work for sending updates. It would be trivial to write a tool in Mono too, I already have a library that works, it would just need the extra wrapper to expose the functions. Afaik, anything in Python should work. HTH M Sent from my iPhone On 9 Mar 2009, at 07:29, Andrew Daviel ad...@triumf.ca wrote: On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Matt Emson wrote: Andrew Daviel wrote: Is there a Twitter client for the tablet ? Mauku. I wrote a simple one in Mono that works up to a point on the NIT, but Mauku is the way to go. I just installed that, and signed up to try Jaiku. But it's a GUI. What I'm looking for is something one can script, like Perl Net::Twitter with perhaps less overhead. Andrew ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
See online reply. Sent from my iPhone On 7 Mar 2009, at 02:08, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: I for one would like to see Apple acquire Nokia. That would be a great combination. A couple points: 1. Apple makes proprietary, closed solutions. Try to reverse engineer Apple´s firmware for compatibility reasons and you´ll see Apple lawyers coming to get you. You don't need to. This is the point. There are only two types of people that need to do tho : 1) people who don't want Apple hardware but want Apple Software, 2) iPhone users Who cant live in the sade world Apple created. 2. Apple makes expensive, not cheap, hardware. This is a misconception Apple makes expensive hardware that is well specified. Apple does not cater to PC builder types. 3. Apple does not support Free Software in general (if you know any Apple software released under the GNU GPL Free Software license, let me know) that puts it at odds with the N8xx tablets Linux OS foundation. Free software does not require GPL. 4. Apple continues pretending Linux doesn´t exist (Quicktime for Lin ux, anyone). Lots of companies ignore Linux. It's not an Apple exclusive. 5. Apple charges an arm and a leg for software upgrades No, no it doesn't. Apple charges for major releases. But point releases (eg. Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10) are free. 10.4 to 10.5 was a major release. Microsoft charges way more for the same type of upgrade. 6. Apple doesn´t like people tinkering with its OS. There's not a lot you need to tinker with. It just works. 7. Apple is just a Microsoft with a sense of style. There´s plenty of not invented here syndrome, like Microsoft does with WMV, Apple does with Quicktime. Why not embrace OpenOffice.org? Not invented at Apple, so it must suck, right?. Because Apple have iWork, which is pretty much better that OpenOffice for most users. So please don´t. I wouldn´t buy any device from Apple corp. Apple Corp is the Beatles record label, isn't it? Each to their own. FC not do acquisitions and they have never been good at it. Best Regards, ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
Sent from my iPhone On 7 Mar 2009, at 16:05, Julius Szelagiewicz jul...@turtle.com wrote: Mark, You can substitute Motorola cell phones for Nokia tablets and your arguments will remain valid. Hardware is easier than software. julius Now, that's just plain mean!! No company makes phones as bad as Motorola ;-) On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Mark wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote: John, you wrote: [snip] I have to agree with Mark that, implicitly, Nokia misleads the public to the extent that it markets the IT's along side of its other mass market mobile phone devices if, in fact, the IT's are a work in progress (I agree, they are, unfortunately) that will take 5 generations and a few more years to get the product ready for the mass market. I don't think they're yet ready for the mainstream, but I don't think they're an albatross around the neck of anyone who buys them, as your Amazon figures show: N800 4 stars out of 5 with a sample size of 172 N810 4 stars out of 5 with a sample size of 93 Anyway, let's remember the not ready for mainstream point... Over a period of three years, I can count on one finger the number of individuals besides myself that I have actually seen carrying/using an IT As you say, the mainstream aren't buying them yet. If they're not ready for the mainstream, that's a good thing, no? Not really, because as long as they can keep selling them in relatively small numbers to fanboys they don't have to worry about supporting them or ever polishing them to the point that they are living up to their full potential. Do you really think the successors will be any better? They'll keep updating the hardware, and keep spending far too little time finishing the software. No generation will ever be better than the current ones in that respect. What good is fantastic hardware without software that can make full use of it? The N800 has been discontinued for a while already, and at this point there's zero chance that I'll ever be able to use the hardware to its full potential. Nokia has already moved on, and once the next generation comes out most of the kind and generous developers who are supplying us with apps for the current crop will move most of their attention to the new device. They've already said that there will be zero backwards compatibility with the OS and software because the hardware is going to be fundamentally different. Do you not understand that as long as they keep coming out with new devices and dropping the old ones there will NEVER be one that is ready for consumers? In order for a device to be ready for consumers they have to stand by it long enough to finish the software. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
Mark wrote: Sure, they say it, after you've already bought the thing and are on a mailing list and a discussion such as this comes up, but NOWHERE in the sales literature or at any sales point that I've seen does it say that. That little morsel is *not* freely disseminated. I'm trying to stay out of this discussion, because it is a circular argument - no one will win because there is no simple correct stance. However, I got my N800 in a PC World store in the UK. PC World is a large retail chain aimed primarily at consumers. They sell Microsoft products to Ma and Pa types. They also sell some more specialized parts - at highly inflated prices, and just because an Apple dealer. Having acknowledged that point, on the whole, you go to PC World to buy consumer electronics, not bleeding edged hacker tools. Make of that what you want, but also notice that not all territories that sell Nokia products treat them in the same way - this is the reason the argument is circular. The N800 was never sold as anything *but* a consumer product in PC World - which may well speak volumes for PC World's stupidity, but also supports what Mark is saying. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
Andrew Flegg wrote: Agreed, and fully understandable. Can we draw up a list of what - exactly - the N8x0 fails to do out-of-the-box which it is advertised it *can* do; and requires hacker-like skills to enable? If I'd never owned another device (Palm, Handspring, Apple Newton, Sharp Zaurus sl5500 etc) or used anything comparable (Windows Mobile 5, Windows CE, Android, iPhone), I might be happy with the N800. But it just seems to do a lot of things in a half baked fashion. The Web browser is the biggest issue. It just is too slow. Mail, well it sort of works. Most of the time. Of the other apps, well I guess some work well. Others, not so much. Had I never owned an iPhone I might be a lot more forgiving, but I have apps, free apps, on my iPhone that do everything I used my N800 for regularly. It does everything more pleasingly and it doesn't struggle (most) of the time. Given that I have it on 24x7, the battery life is also way, way superior. I could list more reasons and be quite cruel about the way the N800 works, but it's now a legacy product, so what is the point? Each to their own. The N800 was a good device 2 years ago, just not now. Things move on. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
Andrew Flegg wrote: Right, so although your complaints may be valid (I'm not saying they're not - honestly, I'd love my tablet to be faster, which is why I'm looking forward to an RX-51/71), they're not relevant to any discussion about Nokia mis-selling the tablets or promising they can do more than they can. Well, with ITOS 2008 Diablo * Never picks up samba/smb/cifs shares any more - ever. No clear reason why that I could see. * Video is jumpy and it barely plays anything back smoothly. Even when encoded in a codec that the device supports out of the box. * Flash - just does not work at any speed vaguely acceptable. Flash video is a complete joke, and if it does play it will drop frames like mad and the audio often stutters - *even* if you allow the entire video to download before playback. * The browser is almost unusable on certain sites. This is probably CSS related, but it renders Facebook useless, for example. * The update mechanism is intrusive and can make the device unusable for the first 2+ minutes after a reboot. *That*'s what I was trying to pin down. For all their flaws, I'm not aware of Nokia saying you could do something which you actually couldn't - unless you were willing to open X Terminal, fiddle with configuration files and so on. Well, Nokia kind of implied it was an Internet Tablet and, if we're honest, it only just barely meets this function these days. It is painfully slow most of the time. But, I'm not being drawn in to this argument any more. It's circular. For every negative point I could come up with, someone will have a counter point from their perspective or make accusations of misconfiguring the device or misunderstanding something. It was a good little machine for its time, but it is not useful to me any more. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
The giant stand emblazoned with Nokia N800 blurb and with an N800 attached to it was always a give away. Displayed in PC World right next to consumer laptops and other PDA like devices. Nowhere did it mention that consumers should avoid the device. If there was no PR, no one would own any of these devices. Let's be realistic here. Sent from my iPhone On 6 Mar 2009, at 18:22, Ryan Abel rabe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Mark wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I get emotional after the messages like I will never buy a Nokia product again from people who act with outrage as if someone sold them a faulty item that breaks in a millon pieces in the first week of use. The outrage is due to the *fact* that the device doesn't live up to its PR. _What_ PR? -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
On 6 Mar 2009, at 18:16, Julius Szelagiewicz jul...@turtle.com wrote: Ognen, I'm sorry that you took offence at my joke. This really was a joke, but obviously poorly worded. I find it mildly amusing that people complain about N810 functionality and the need to add application at the same breath praising Iphones and saying how they were able to download applications to make their very, very expensive device functional. The real price of an Iphone is the monthly rental charge disguised in the phone bill. Well no. I pay the same for my monthly bill as people I know do for their regular phone tarrif. I get unlimited data too. As in, I use cellular data free every single day. I easily use £35 worth of data, SMS and calls every month, but I get no additional charges. The iPhone just *works*. Politics aside, the basic out of box functionality runs rings round my N800. For what *I* use it for. Ymmv, obviously. My experience with all thing screen on N8x0 is mixed - the applications perform well enough, my eyes don't. Since I didn't see any ads for N8x0 devices, I don't feel cheated, on the contrary, I think that a N810 for $220 is a tremendous value. So please don't take offence at feeble jokes. Without going into my degrees and decades of programming, I happily admit to being an idiot about most, if not all, things in life. It took me very long to lose my delusions of adequacy, just shows that I'm slow. julius On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Ognen Duzlevski wrote: Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: The biggest beef seems to be that the Nokia tablets are not aimed at the idiots. As a business decision, it may be misguided, since idiots constitute a vast majority of the buying public. Personally I like to be treated as an adult. Julius, My intended application for the N800 is controlling Lego Mindstorms NXT bricks. For that purpose the N800 is actually a very cool device (runs Linux, has bluetooth and USB, can run python etc.). I have another N800 that I bought as a portable lazy-man's gadget - that portion has not played out so well. The idea was to take it on trips for movies, browsing the web and use it as a GPS. None of these have worked out well (for me, YMMV). I have since bought an Eee and that puppy is miles ahead of the N8x0 for my intended uses, mind you, it costs approximately the same and runs Linux or you can put Ubuntu on it yourself, which is what I did. My main beef with N800 is the difference between advertised functionality and what you actually get. Maemo community is great BUT there seems to be an enormous amount of confusion out there on what the device can actually do and how to get it done between the various versions of maemo. I am used to hacking stuff all day but maybe sometimes, just sometimes, I don't want to serve the gadget and I want the gadget to serve me. I kind of resent the wording in your email - that the beef with the device is that it is not meant for idiots. I have a CS degree, have even published a paper or two, co-wrote a chapter in a scientific textbook and have been a programmer for most of my life (on Linux). I don't consider myself to be an idiot by any means. Thanks, Ognen ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
Ognen Duzlevski wrote: Hello, I am curious to find out what people use their Nokias for. If anyone could share their usage patterns, it would be appreciated. Six months ago, I would have given you a long list. Now, nothing. It sits about doing nothing. I grab it to take meeting notes around once a month using Xournal, but even then I sometimes forget. Except for notes, there isn't any other single function my MSI Wind or iPhone doesn't do better. Sad but true. Between them, I have no need for it at all. I could even eliminate its one useful function by taking notes on my old Apple Newton and printing them directly to my Laserwriter rather than going through PDF first. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: This is not the N810 fault. I had the N800 first. But I bought the other two devices over time, because the N800 wasn't capable of doing what I needed it to - play back music without screwing up the gaps between tracks as Canola does, Surf the web without struggling, connect easily to cellular data and wifi (free with iPhone), have a reasonable battery life when used with a keyboard (MSI Wind.) No one said it was the N800's fault, but it equally wasn't mine either - unless you imply I was stupid to assume the N800 would remain useful after better devices existed. ;-) It's your fault. No. See above. Your devices clearly overlap in functionality. They do, but the chronology of use doesn't. And your needs do not require the functionalities the N810 may have and the other two don't (as, for example, taking notes with the stylus). I have a pen and a pad that cost me nothing (company provided), the N800 is a nice simple way to have the notes electronically, but I can just as easily scan my notes I guess. If I'd go buy an airplane right now and I won't use it becuase it's too expensive, that is not the airplane fault. I hope you get the idea. I perfectly understand what you are saying, but I think you have gone off on a tangent due to not understanding the initial problem. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Twitter shell for N810 ?
Andrew Daviel wrote: Is there a Twitter client for the tablet ? Mauku. I wrote a simple one in Mono that works up to a point on the NIT, but Mauku is the way to go. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Car Mileage Calculator Released
James Knott wrote: Does it also do metric i.e. kilometers litres? Or, indeed, can it use a mixture of metric and imperial*? (We use metric litres for fuel, but miles for distance in the UK.) M * imperial is what we call the old British system of measurement that the US uses (with slight modifications to certain sizes/volumes.) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: damaged power connecter
Mark Haury wrote: Matt Emson wrote: Fernando Cassia wrote: Which shows newer is not always better... anyone remembers the good old PalmPilot cradles? Not only were those rock-solid, but also it was impossible to break any connectors by pulling hard or by tripping on wires it'd just unplug itself without any damage. Um... showing my age here, but I almost killed myself by tripping over a Palm Pilot Pro serial cable... it broke. The serial cables were designed to be screwed in to the serial port. In the fight between my foot and the cable, the serial connector sheared off. Luckily, the device flew out of the cradle and landed on the carpet face up, else that would have been toast too. The serial cradles also didn't charge the device, though the Palm Pilot Pro use 2 x AAA batteries, so it wasn't hard to keep it running :-) Them was the days!! M I think you're missing the point. The *PC* end is a different story. The *Palm* end doesn't screw in to anything in the handheld. Well, no. Clearly, they are not indestructible. I've also seen the other end come out... it was only held in by a zip-tie, at least on the Palm Pilot Pro model. I have a Handspring Visor Deluxe that I still use. In fact, I'm only now (after more than a year of IT ownership) getting my contacts straightened out in my N800 so I can stop carrying the Visor with me. (And even then I'm going to have issues with exporting the data elsewhere.) I had one of those! A blue one. Nice bit of kit at the time, crippled by the odd version of PalmOS they used. Not quite 3.0, but also not 3.3. The Visor cradle doesn't have anything that connects to the Visor in such a way that anything can break in the handheld. The plain cable is different, but even that will break the catches on the cable rather than anything on the device. I'm trying to remember it there was any damage to the visor cradle that I owned... I think the usual wear on the wire coating... The cradle was sturdier than the Palm ones I had. I think it was possible to damage the connector with downward force - if you sat on the device in the cradle for example. The point is that cables are relatively cheap and *extremely* easy to replace. A PC component and a closed consumer device is hardly an analogue. Even the serial port connector on your PC can be replaced a lot easier than the power jack in your IT. All connector cables for portable and handheld devices should be designed with that as a top priority. Nokia have been using that exact connector on their phones for a long time. My wife recently got a Nokia slider phone (5600? something like that) and the PSU has a different part number, but otherwise looks identical to my N800 one. Still, with the GSM consortium announcing common Euro plugs by 2012 (or so), we'll all be happy I guess. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: identi.ca group
Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni wrote: I sent messages via Jabber and receive them at the moment with twitter (identi.ca post them for me to twitter) over mauku. but I hope mauku will get native laconi.ca support... The difference in the API is the URL base it uses. It took me about 10 minutes to write a class in .Net that talks to identica, and most of that was working out the places in the API where the author of the original Twitter API I was using had hard coded things. For the Mauku developer, it should be quite trivial. Indeed, I believe he supplies source, so it could be done by someone else. The only issue would be that Mauku doesn't handle accounts very well - the Twitter stuff feels bolted on to the Jaiku stuff. If a proper account set-up was added, it would work well. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: identi.ca group
Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: I think that any jabber client is enough: http://laconi.ca/trac/wiki/Documentation#usageXMPP Well, no. Mauku should be able to support identi.ca. The identi.ca back end supports the Twitter API - as Mauku already supports that API, should be fairly trivial to code. The change is litterally: http://twitter.com; to http://identi.ca/api; and all the rest of the API will work (no pun intended.. sorry Geek joke hidden in that last statement.) Jabber can NEVER approach a real client. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: damaged power connecter
Fernando Cassia wrote: Which shows newer is not always better... anyone remembers the good old PalmPilot cradles? Not only were those rock-solid, but also it was impossible to break any connectors by pulling hard or by tripping on wires it'd just unplug itself without any damage. Um... showing my age here, but I almost killed myself by tripping over a Palm Pilot Pro serial cable... it broke. The serial cables were designed to be screwed in to the serial port. In the fight between my foot and the cable, the serial connector sheared off. Luckily, the device flew out of the cradle and landed on the carpet face up, else that would have been toast too. The serial cradles also didn't charge the device, though the Palm Pilot Pro use 2 x AAA batteries, so it wasn't hard to keep it running :-) Them was the days!! M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Bluetooth headset - N800
On 27 Jan 2009, at 17:36, Rick Bilonick wrote: I A2DP works in Maemo, it doesn't work out of the box. I have a Motorolla S9 stereo headset. It works with my N810 but not in stereo (I've tried). IIRC, it was a dirty hack back in the ITOS2007 days. No idea if ITOS2008 improved that. Never owned a bluetooth headset, so no idea. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Cisco.Webex support on Iphone Why not also on N800/N810
John Holmblad wrote: I don't own an iphone so I don't have the means to test/verify your perception about webex on a small screen. I have to believe, however, that Cisco would not have invested the time and effort to make a no-cost iphone client available if they did not themselves conclude that such a client was not just useable but useful as well. We used to use Webex for product demos, and it was geared around VOIP style chat and screen sharing. Not sure a 480x600 screen is suited to that application. ymmv, obviously. The N8x0 screen refresh is probably too slow and the processor far too underpowered. The iPhone, for all it faults, is a graphics/processor powerhouse in comparison. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Cisco.Webex support on Iphone Why not also on N800/N810
Java is a large install on most platforms. 12mb actually seems quite small to me. I can't imagine Webex being pleasant on any screen as small as the N8x00 or iPhone. M Sent from my iPhone On 20 Jan 2009, at 00:29, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: Gary, thanks for sharing the Jalimo links. I was going to install it to try it out but I balked once I saw that the download is more than 12 mb! Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC Gary wrote: Jalimo has been installable since Chinook but I don't know if it has any kind of browser plug-in yet... http://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Maemo http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Getting_started_with_Java_on_maemo -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 with GSM radio
John Holmblad wrote: Having said that, and, given that there is a WIMAX version of the N810 I don't see an inherent technical or cost reason why there could not also be a version with a 2g/3g radio (GSM/HSDPA, or CDMA/EVDO) as well. I suspect it would be GSM/HSDPA based, as this is what we use in Europe. I'm not even sure if any carriers in the UK support EVDO? Probably, but no one talks about it. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 with GSM radio
Marius Gedminas wrote: 3G is UMTS (or WCDMA); HSDPA is sometimes called 3.5G. In the UK, O2 only use HSDPA for their 3G service, apparently. When you buy an iPhone with them, they mumble about their 3G actually being rated faster than normal 3G and make excuses about the naming convention being tied to the iPhone not having a different icon for HSDPA.. It's fast though. Very fast. When I heard that 3G uses different frequencies in different countries, and that not all 3G phones support all frequencies, I was rather disappointed. This has nothing to do with the phones or manufacturers. Countries assign different parts of the spectrum to different uses. You can't dictate to the world that a specific frequency is universal, because *someone* will be using it *somewhere*. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Itouch v N8x0
On 22 Dec 2008, at 11:38, Marius Gedminas wrote: You mean the one that doesn't flat-out refuse to work with my Linux- only laptop? If we're being pedantic, why would you buy a product that clearly states it does not support LINUX? That's a bit like me buying a book in Japanese and expecting to be able to read it. Sure, I could learn Japanese, but let's face it, it's unlikely I'll learn enough Japanese to read the book any time soon ;-) M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Itouch v N8x0
On 22 Dec 2008, at 20:41, Denis Dimick wrote: I've had both a n810 and an iPhone (Jailbroken) and ended up selling the iPhone; I was tired of not being able to manage my Music the way I wanted to - iTunes sucks. I've never really had a problem with iTunes (5th gen iPod owner), but I've never had a *good* experience with my N800 and media. My 5th gen ipod runs rings around the N800, and that is the problem I have with the N8x0 series with regards to media. There's not one player that works properly and has a good interface. Canola2 is close, but it constantly plays a few seconds from a random MP3 between tracks when on shuffle. No good. I've never owned a music player other than an iPod, so maybe things would be different in that case. Android, having played with it over the last few days (Nitdroid) is slicker than Maemo. I hope the port matures and I can use it full time. It's a lot more pleasurable to use than Maemo. However, the N800 hardware just plain struggles to to anything useful in my experience. Even Android is slightly pokey, and in similar ways to Maemo, so it's likely a hardware or driver level issue. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Browserd consumes too much CPU on N810 - OS 2008 (5.2008.43)
Andrea Grandi wrote: If you try to load Facebook.com website, the situation is even worse: it takes about 85% CPU simply doing nothing. Use the iPhone version of Facebook (iphone.facebook.com) as it's streamlined and doesn't have the idiotic chat enabled. If you want Facebook chat, use Pidgin and the Facebook chat protocol add-on :-)) M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Itouch v N8x0
On 19 Dec 2008, at 22:49, lakestevensdental wrote: I can't agree with your comments ont he keyboard. The N800 on screen is extremely flakey and the layout is really annoying. I've played with a few iphones and found the onscreen far more precise and less prone to odd results. The entire Chinook line and first Diablo release was almost impossile to type with. I got constantly doubled characters. It seems to have improved witht he second and third Diablo release tho. I also regularly do wireless file transfers to and from my n800 and my (Windows) LAN, which is verbotten on the iTouch. Not true. I don't own one, but I know there are apps that will make the ipod touch (not itouch) or iphone look like a file share on the wireless network and transfer files. There's even a free one. This was a question that came up on the last MacCast, so check that podcast out for more info. I also occasionally have used my n800 to help show patients xRays on my n800 via remote viewing of one of the clinic PCs. Nothing like that is available on the Touch. RDP is available IIRC. VNC is too. Which protocol is it that you require? While a PC can detect a connected Ipod Touch, you can't interact with the Touch via file manager so far as I've figured out. There are apps to do this. They tend not to be able to put files in to the OS readable drive space though. But then, this doesn't work on any ipod. Apple removed the disk mode to deter people hacking the firmware. Everything between PC and Touch has to be done thru iTunes. Basically, there no 'enduser' interaction with the inner workings of the iTouch. It's a multimedia music player. It's not designed to be in the same sphere as the N8x0. They are *meant* to be general purpose. Bottomline, the closed proprietary nature of ... This is entirely the reason not to bother comparing anything but the N800 without hacking or changing of out of the box purpose. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
New Twitter client
Hi all, Dunno how interesting this is, but I started to write a Gtk# based Twitter client on Saturday evening. It runs on Windows/Linux and probably Mac OS X too (not tried it, will do though.) It'll also run fairly well on the N800 using the Mono 2.01 runtime.I don't have a package yet, and I need to add some configuration options (as it's currently hardcoded to use my account), but if anyone had the Mono runtime and the Gtk# libs (uses some of the System hierarchy too, but no WindowsForms), let me know and I'll happily send out a zip. It's less than 100KB at the moment. Motivation was to learn the Gtk# library (and associated Gnome/Gdk/Pango etc), so it's not intended to be an insanely great project. But it'll do some of the things I like from twhirl, so will have advantages over Mauku. If it ends up being something useful, that's cool, but I'm writing it more as a learning project. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 dead?
James Knott wrote: Try removing reinstalling the battery. I find that helps, when my N800 is out to lunch. This is so true that actually added a tab of tape to my battery to make it easier to get out. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Removing Modest from Diablo
Denis Dimick wrote: You could do a force, but your not going to like what happens. Non bootable self destructing system by any chance? Saw that happen trying to force an older version of gcc to install in Chinook. Ouch! M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Flash player conflict stopping the feature update
Ryan Abel wrote: On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Matt Emson wrote: That someone being timeless. :) Someone being a simple way not to have to go search for the culprit/genius/kind individual that created the package, obviously ;-) Unfortunately, it seems this package is stopping installation of the latest feature upgrade available via system update.. Just uninstall the package from Application manager and all will be well. As indicated, I was going to try that, but I wanted to do it at home as work WIFI is spotty at best. I can confirm promlems fixed with removal. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Updating n810w (rx-48) to latest firmware
Mark wrote: If I understand correctly, you're expecting the update tools to automatically pick up the latest OS image and install it. He is using Windows, so, yeah - the tool should be picking up the latest firmware automatically. The issue is more likely related to what Ryan was saying about non release hardware. The Windows tool is actually quite nice. It does have one flaw - it makes you connect the tablet whilst it downloads the firmware, which is not a good idea IMO. It should allow the firmware to be downloaded first - though I'm guessing it's using the tablet to get the MAC address info, so maybe it's just a design flaw mascaraing as a questionable practice :-) Should probably give the option to manually enter the MAC address, or at least, remember the last one, so that the painful wait on battery is lessened. (NOTICE: I use a Mac now and have only used the Windows flasher circa IT OS 2007, so it might have changed by now..) M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Flash player conflict stopping the feature update
Someone on the Internet Tablet Talk Forums released a package that fixed the Flash Player version string issue that stopped a lot of sites recognising that the version of flash in ITOS2008 was compatible. Unfortunately, it seems this package is stopping installation of the latest feature upgrade available via system update. It claims the version of the Flash Player is the problem. I haven't attempted to remove the package in question, don't know if that would work, but this is a heads up to those who, like me, did the same to get Flash to work with Youtube and Myspace etc. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 RIP?
Martin Grimme wrote: 2008/9/26, Jeffrey Barish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The N800 was manufactured in Korea. Anyone know by what company? Not all units were manufactured in Korea. The units sold in Europe were manufactured in Finland (at least mine was). Confirmed. Mine is a product of Finland also. If you lift the back and look at the sticker mine reads made in Finland in English, French and Spanish.This is just under the CE mark (I'm guessing non European versions don't have/require a CE mark?) M M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: XOHM is Live in Baltimore]
John Holmblad wrote: This makes me wonder if Nokia is hedging its bets on the success of WIMAX/ Had a meeting with a provider of microwave based internet last week. He mentioned they were involved in the rollout of WiMax in the UK. Unfortunately, he also made it sound like it was unlikely to be available before 2010. By then the N810 will be old technology. I guess, I wouldn't hold my breath would be the turn of phrase I'd use. Outside of the US, the spectrum used by WiMax is often highly regulated. I'm not sure of other European countries, but the UK is having some kind of auction at some point (or maybe had one?) but either way, it's not something that looks likely to happen within the lifetime of the N810. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: USB keyboard on n800?
How does it recognise a keyboard, anyway? Hardware manufacturer id, device id and device class (e.g. Mass storage, input device, etc) Does that driver have to be installed specially? No, nothing needs to be installed in Chinook and Diablo, it just works. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: USB keyboard on n800?
This should get you started... Get what the mode is currently set: cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode) Turn off the onscreen kbd: gconftool-2 -t bool -s /system/osso/af/keyboard-attached true Turn on the onscreen kbd - this is important as is sometimes doesn't happen -though it should: gconftool-2 -t bool -s /system/osso/af/keyboard-attached false Set host mode: echo host /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode Set regular mode: echo peripheral /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode Correct the kbd map (this does UK/GB): setxkbmap -layout gb,us - Original message - On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 10:29:25AM +0100, Frantisek Dufka wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... Thanks for the info. I think I've got the adapter, somewhere, maybe. I recall something like it coming with my USB HDTV thingy so one could extend the thingy further from a noisy laptop or computer. Do you suppose a keyboard kernel would have to be reflashed and/or rewritten when the next OS update comes out? Next OS update (the 2008 one) has usb host mode support built-in so you may just wait few weeks for much easier way. But still, someone experienced with flashing kernel and using insmod command can have it running right now. I flashed my n800 with Diablo. Does this too have usb host mode support built in? Do I have to do somthing to activate it? I managed to connect my Alphasmart keyboard physically with some cables and a female-to-female adapter, but the n800 is ignoring me when I open the notes utility. -- hendrik Outside of linking to another USB port, do you have any idea of what other devices might/does the n800s USB port work with? Anything that has kernel driver in 2.6.18 linux kernel (or 2.6.21 for OS2008) which means lots of stuff :-) Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo's Modest/Email
Just curious -- which country are you calling 'this'? The UK, well England if you want to be pedantic. I understand it was popular elsewhere, but the UK is all I can comment on. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo's Modest/Email
On 11 Sep 2008, at 16:24, Mark wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Matt Emson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark wrote: You are so incredibly wrong. About? Pretty much everything... Well, no. You stated that only embedded and handhelds use ARM processors. Obviously, this is incorrect. The A9Home and Iyonix are still in production and use ARM processors. They are designed to be desktop machines and are capable of running the types of software you are getting in a flap about. That the Archimedes uses ARM processors, um, no. Acorn designed the original ARM processor. The A in ARM originally stood for Acorn. That my A7000 is an embedded device in disguise? No, it's a full desktop machine, uses standard RAM, standard IDE hard drives, has a VGA connector and PS/2 ports and such. It was sold as a desktop computer in the 1990's, but the RISCOS based machine running with ARM processors are still around. Still around, and current are two completely different concepts. Dude, RISCOS was very big in this country. It's not my fault you live somewhere other than here. The Iyonix is still used widely within the RISCOS community and is niche, yes, but still in production. No where did you state the machine had to be widely available world wide. You blanket claimed they didn't exist - they DO. You lose. Back peddling is not going to get you out of that hole. If I wanted to run an email server on my Handspring Visor or Psion Series 5, I could theoretically do it, but who cares? All of the ARM based desktop machines are pretty much past tense, and the current crop of RISC systems are as far from main-stream as you can get, and bear little relation to the well-known ARM systems, which as I said are primarily handhelds. Archimedes is as well known in this country as Apple 2 was in the US. Pretty much 90% of all schools and education establishments used Acorn hardware in the 1980's and 1990's. You might not believe me, but in the UK the Acorn line is extremely well known. I've never seen an Apple 2, yet I don't claim they are irrelevant and didn't exist in any useful capacity. Just because you don't know of the line does not mean squat. Your loss, really. None of them have ever been available in your average computer store. Yes, they were. Sorry to tell you. The A3010 and A3020 were *specifically* designed to be sold in retail stores along side Amigas and ST's and were. Anyone who uses any of them for a modern task is doing is solely for the challenge, not because it makes any kind of sense to do so. Well, no. The original Iyonix was only put in to production in around 1999/2000 or something like that. Clearly, the ARM systems you're referring to are NOT general-purpose computing devices, but special-purpose imbedded devices. H... the facts don't really support your assertion. Yeah, and pigs can fly... So, you deny they are general purpose computers? That was your assertion... see above. Oh look, a flying pig, DOH! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risc_PC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_A7000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC_OS http://www.castle-technology.co.uk/castle/front.shtml But then, you don't seem to have done an awfully large amount of research on the matter. Historical research is irrelevant. IMAP didn't exist when most of those systems were made... The links gave context. The links proved you are talking BS and obviously have an extremely blinkered and one dimensional view of ARM based systems. The Iyonix is still in production. The A9Home is still around too. You lose. As this is turning in to a bitching fest, all replies sent to /dev/ null as suggested by Mark earlier. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo's Modest/Email
Mark wrote: You are so incredibly wrong. About? That the Archimedes uses ARM processors, um, no. Acorn designed the original ARM processor. The A in ARM originally stood for Acorn. That my A7000 is an embedded device in disguise? No, it's a full desktop machine, uses standard RAM, standard IDE hard drives, has a VGA connector and PS/2 ports and such. It was sold as a desktop computer in the 1990's, but the RISCOS based machine running with ARM processors are still around. Clearly, the ARM systems you're referring to are NOT general-purpose computing devices, but special-purpose imbedded devices. H... the facts don't really support your assertion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risc_PC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_A7000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC_OS http://www.castle-technology.co.uk/castle/front.shtml But then, you don't seem to have done an awfully large amount of research on the matter. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo's Modest/Email
Riku Voipio wrote: Mark wrote: Your setup may be able to handle IMAP just fine, but it could at least as easily handle POP3. If you're running it on an ARM system you clearly are not leaving messages (especially with large attachments) on the server indefinitely (there's no ARM system I know of that has the storage for that), so you're really using it as if it were a POP3 system anyway... There is literally hundreds of different ARM systems available with IDE/SATA/USB ports that can scale to pretty much unlimited quantities of storage. You can walk down to your nearest well equipped computer store and by ARM system with a terabyte of storage[1]. The first ARM processors were used in Acorn Archimedes computers. If I was to buy an ethernet podule for my old A7000, it would certainly be capable of doing all of the above, and so I would have to agree that the statement was extremely sweping and most definitely inaccurate! :-) It only has a ~1GB drive at the moment (IIRC), but I certainly could add in a larger one if I needed to. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can't Install New Apps in Diablo on N810
Rick Bilonick wrote: I've been running Diablo on an N810 for several months. A few weeks ago I used the method set up by penquinbait to clone the OS onto a 4gb external memory card. This has worked very nicely - at least until a few days ago. I've installed lots of apps given I had the space and still have filled up only a tiny portion of the card. But now, I can't install any apps using the application manager. For example, I tried to install Claws. It downloads the software but the install always fails but no info on why is given. I tried to install several other apps - all download but fail to install Whenever this has happened to me on my N800 it has been a poorly seated or corrupted internal SD card. Is there enough space on the internal memory to hold the downloaded files etc? Not so good for the N810 though :-( M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo's Modest/Email
Matt Emson wrote: If I then checked my main email client, sure enough it was there To clarify - if I check me email later on that day on my MacBook - when no other client had attempted to download the email since the N800 has attempted to. i.e. the email *does* exist. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Problem flashing RX-34_DIABLO_4.20 08.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Peter Bart wrote: Getting the software loaded is another story. I'm finding some of the software for Diablo won't load. Notably Leafpad and Maemopad+. Won't load or can't be installed? Loading is what happens after installation. Installation is what happens when you first put the program on to your device (i.e. install the package.) I assume (maybe wrongly?) you mean won't install, but you might mean load so I thought I should ask you for clarification. I'm a little confused (as per usual...) M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: The PDF's hyperlink don't work in N810
Jun Xu wrote: The PDF's hyperlink function doesn't work in N810. It seems that its code is deformed in various ways. Hyperlinks seem to work in Evince (just tested.) I personally use Evince because it seems like a fuller PDF viewer (though it does seem slightly slower.) I'd suggest looking at it if you have an issue with the built in PDF viewer. HTH M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Hyperlink
cedric cellier wrote: So what ? Does this matter ? Well, maybe, or not. Depends how you view their questions. I find them odd, and slightly annoying. Buy that's my problem, obviously. At any rate, I think they are asking technical programming questions on the wrong list. Given their employer, it didn't sit right with me, so I passed comment. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Need C++ Compiler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That wsa on Debian. I imagine things may be worse on maemo. It uninstalls everything until the daemon that watches for crashes reboots the OS and it then fails to start because the fundamental OS is no longer bootable. It does make you type in a long phrase to confirm you are sure (stupid?) enough to do it though. I realised it was a bad idea when it started removing pretty much the core of the OS.. too late by then though. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Installing wget on Os2008/Diablo
John Holmblad wrote: Log in as root (install becomeroot deb and type sudo gainroot in terminal.. or do the ssh trick, whatever you find easier.) apt-get install wget All, has anyone been able to install wget on OS2008/Diablo? If so can you share how you did it? I thought I saw wget on the application manager list but if it was there, it is gone now. Is the easiest way to simply enable red pill mode, run the application manager, install it and then turn off red pill mode? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Need C++ Compiler
Kalle Valo wrote: ext Matt Emson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As Maemo doesn't use C++ that much (if at all?) The browser is written in C++ AFAIK. But this will not affect the compiler ABI issues I meant to allude to, well, unless you need to link to the browser in some way. The important thing with C++ always seems to be the version of ABI the compiler is using. e.g. back in my Zaurus days, QTopia used GCC 2.95.X and Opie (based on QTopia) changed their compiler to 3.X and no older apps worked without a lot of pain. With Maemo mainly being C based, the C++ compiler only needs to be happy with itself, not the other libs on the system - unless the system ships with a lot of libs in a specific ABI that you need to use. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: What is flash?
Karl Kobel wrote: Yes, I see now... I here alot about flash what is it? I assumed he was refering to 'flash', the noun. Did you try to flash the 770 again? Andre was referring to 'flash', the verb. I haven't been reading all the threads that Jeff posted, but to be honest I read his question and got a third answer! Flash is a plug-in for the web browser that allows it to display little programs in line. These range from small animations to full featured applications. Flash is is technology owned by Adobe systems (originally Macromedia, but Adobe bought that company) and is largely demonised on the web because it has generally poor performance and is only available of a few platforms (Windows, Mac, LINUX on Intel x86/ia32 compatible hardware and some phones and other devices such as the N series tablets.) A common use of Flash these days is to provide a video player. These players use a special FLash Video (.flv) format. I'm probably wrong in my interpretation of the question though ;-) M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: can we use a shell on N810?
Forrest Sheng Bao wrote: Hi dudes, Do we have a shell on N810 like the one on OpenMoko? http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/open-moko-software.media/om2term.png Yes. The only bad part is how it handles control coded with the pop up keyboard on the N800, but the N810 should be okay. Does anyone know if there's a bug/improvement posted requesting that clicking on the [ctrl] button does not hide the OS Keyboard? It's tedious to have to click the entry point to re-show the keyboard that hid itself when the dialog appeared.. type, e.g., C and then go back to the shell and have to click on the Window *again* to get the keyboard back. Unless I'm missing something?? I forget how the Zaurus/Qtopia did it, but t was more intuitive. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: can we use a shell on N810?
Ryan Abel wrote: Yes. The only bad part is how it handles control coded with the pop up keyboard on the N800, but the N810 should be okay. It was fixed in Diablo. . . . https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2392 So it WAS! Woo, that's neat ;-) When I get round to upgrading my SD to Diablo, I'm going to be very happy with that solution!. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: locked device
One more quesiton, I had to charge device and when chargong I was not able se boot menu... is thi snormal? I don't think so. If I reboot on power, I go straight in to the FLASH image with no hint of the bootmenu. Or at least, this happened when booted to FLASH and attempting to reboot in SD.. maybe if I was booted to SD it would have been that one? Though my device rebooted itself unaided the other day (in a bag) and ended up in the FLASH rather than the SD where I'd left it, so YMMV. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo released
Quim Gil wrote: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/os2008_feature_upgrade-reflash_your_tablet-for_the_last_time.html SDK announcement to land soon Cool! Downloading this *now* and hoping to avoid the rush that happened last time round ;-) If only I had my N800 with me today! Luckily, I wrote the MAC address down just in case of this happening! Download looking good, 50% done (~200KB/s) :-) M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Keyboard Recommendations
Hal Vaughan wrote: So any recommendations on [...] external keyboards since the Stowaway seems to have been taken off the market? Yes, buy a OTG dongle and go USB. Bluetooth is a PITA. USB works really well. The adapter will cost you less than $10 is you shop around, the keyboard - well, however much you are willing to pay. The world is your oyster. I've personally got a wired micro keyboard, bought from Maplin in the UK, and have also used a Logitech wireless USB keyboard. I would never in a million years use Bluetooth now. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Sluggish performance on my N800
Mike Wright wrote: Anyone tell me why this might be? Try clearing the browser cache. That worked for me. It you go in to the prefs for the browser, there is a way of doing it. I left my N800 at home today, so I can't say for sure what it is. Do you have Modest installed? Latest version seems to constantly check mail and alert you when it finds some. This slows down the N800 a lot (anyone know how to turn off auto mail checking in Modest?) M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bittorrent
Transmission works flawlessly for me. Didn't realise the other one existed. - Original message - I would suggest asking on the forum on Garage for this one ... unless someone here has a suggestion. Or try Transmission which came through after my email. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i get - incompatible application package - when i try and install. is there anything i need to handle deb packages? thanks. On 5/8/08, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemo-torrent/ On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've just purchased the 810 and i noticed there was no bittorrent client for download. does anyone know of a method of getting one through some other means like maybe with opera? but then i didn't see that for download either (unless you just install one of the other linux versions). any advice appreciated. thanks. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...
Giacomo Tufano wrote: After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short. I go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a night... One thing comes to mind : metalayer-crawler... This is going to be your issue. Nokia seem to deny this is a problem, indeed I've read as much on this list. However, the fact that with the metalayer-crawler running, I get about the same amount of run time as you, but disabling it, I get a week in stand by... I'd say Nokia are just plain WRONG! What will disabling the crawler do? It will stop the media player cataloging your media files. This means you would need to manually open them.. yes it is a pita, but I'd far rather have realistic battery life than my media catalogued. This is also an issue with MPlayer too... the recent MPlayer build also seems to do something similar. If I start it with my internal memory card in, it freezes whilst it calalogues the data, but removing the card, it is fine. Very annoying. At least MPlayer can be closed down easily though. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...
Giacomo Tufano wrote: The 'metalayer-crawler' is, apparently, idle (bad, I'd like a simple solution). :-( Even though it often doesn't look like it is the metalayer-crawler, killing it always makes a big difference for me. Honestly, I had my first week of N800 ownership with the battery lasting not much past one day. If it still had a charge in the morning, it was at critical levels. I removed the crawler after seeking advice, and the battery life is not up to a week. I use my tablet about 1 - 2 hours a day, 5+ nights a week. I can charge it up at the weekend and easily still have battery enough to surf on Friday. If I leave it in stand by (select switch off WLAN, lock keys and turn off screen) it will last over 7 days with no use and still have at least 1 hour of use online. The key, kill the crawler process and stop it from re starting and turn off bluetooth and WLAN when you are not using the device. The worrying thing is that the metalayer-crawler might actually be harming the battery by putting it at critical levels repeatedly. Lithium ion batteries like to be about 80% charged, any more than 80% and they can be unhappy if left charged for periods, but also - any less than say 40% and they also get unhappy. Most batteries die because they go below the minimum safe charge level, which harms their chemical makeup and their capacity (from what I have read.) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:09 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote: Even though it often doesn't look like it is the metalayer-crawler, killing it always makes a big difference for me. Honestly, I had my ... You could check it with strace -p PID of metalayer-crawler (Debian armel package probably works). It should be sitting in the poll() system call when it's idle. Killing the crawler is good enough to get the desired results in my case. I can't see that re-enabling it will be helpful for my own personal tablet. The power drain is bad news, and should be fixable. Idon't claim to know exactly what causes the issue, but I still hold up the opinion that the crawler is bad news on many* N8x0 systems. I've seen a load of users have this issue on the IT forums and this list. Something somewhere is going wrong. For me it was this, so I stick to my guns and say - Metalater-crawler == poor battery life. Obviously, YMMV. Whatever the issue.. it's real. It's a big issue for many users. It's not an obvious error, cause I'm guessing it would be fixed by now if that were the case. All I can report is what I have already stated in a hope it can be useful. * I can't quantify many, so I will not claim all. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...
Eero Tamminen wrote: It is. Sitting on poll(). In that case crawler is not the issue. Humour me. Kill the crawler, stop it form respawning (rename the file), fully charge your tablet, leave it over night. If it is dead as per usual, yes it is another issue. What is there to lose, really? Eero, I realise you know more than I do, but just because the crawler is currently idle, does not mean it stays idle all the time. If you can explain how else killing the crawler might solve my battery issues, I would love to know. It's a PITA to not have it working, but it just solves all battery issues by removing it. Going from no power in the morning from a full charge, to lasting for a week.. come on, it's not just co-incidence. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: can't install software
From: Jon Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make sure your internal memory card is inserted, recognized and has enough room to hold the install files. This is the usual cause of issues like that for me. for some strange reason i have been unable to install any software a few days after ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 not N-series? :-)
Jac Kersing wrote: Hmmm, Nokia just lauched the Nokia Music Store, however when trying to access it using a N800 I'm getting a page stating: Nokia Music does not support Mozilla Firefox (Linux) on your operating system Yep, same here. I was in Waterloo Station in London and the Cloud WiFi has free access to the Nokia Music Store... except Nokia then say No sorry to the N800. Sad really... M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Ogg support
Tuomas Kulve wrote: Media Player doesn't allow you to open ogg files directly but when the Metalayer Crawler adds your oggs to the Library then you can play the oggs from there with the Media Player. Metalayer-crawler is the first thing I disable and remove after reflashing my N800. It is evil and literally kills battery life and the life of flash devices. You should not have to rely on the Metalayer-crawler to play ogg, because until Nokia/Maemo fix the memory/processor usage issues with the crawler, people like me are going to gain root access and remove it. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[Fwd: Error in email to twine.com (was Re: Re: Ogg support)]
Anyone got an idea what on earth this is on about? Has somebody subscribed with an email address that would generate this kind of junk? M Original Message Subject:Error in email to twine.com (was Re: Re: Ogg support) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:22:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Twine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Emson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twine Tie it all Together http://www.twine.com:4242/ Dear Twine user, There was a problem sending your email: The message was not from an email address of a Twine user. Click here http://www.twine.com:4242/account/changeContactInformation to add the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your Twine account, or use an email address which you've already registered with Twine to post by mail to a twine. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Cheers, the Twine team. Copyright © Radar Networks Inc.410 Townsend Street Suite 150 | San Francisco, California 94107 Terms of Use http://www.twine.com:4242/legal | Privacy http://www.twine.com:4242/privacy | Contact Support mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Using a SE W890i as Bluetooth modem (DUN)
Henrik Frisk wrote: I just received my new phone, a SE W890i but with this I'm not able to connect. My SE K800i is the same. UK Vodafone. Will pair etc, even goes through the motions of connecting, but no traffic. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 European Power Adapter
Jerry Van Baren wrote: Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Kip Warner ha escrit: Thank you, I think I will do that. I haven't been to Europe, but is there just one standard plug across the EU, or do they vary? The do vary but generally only the earth plug, so if you use a 2 prongs adapter (i.e. with no earth plug, enough for the tablet), it will work in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Switzerland and probably most other EU countries (the UK being the exception). IIRC on wikipedia you can find the details. They are *generally* the same, but there is still a *lot* of variations around Europe, even ignoring the earth pin. Some have thicker prongs, some have really skinny ones. UK (and Irish) plugs are completely different. They are far, far safer in practice. Each plug has a rated fuse (3, 5 and 13 amps are common in various devices.) Our plugs are designed to fail at the plug before damaging the appliance. We also have an earth pin on all plugs (though some devices don't use it.) This means that we don't have the my outlet has no earth pin issue that people some times hack around in the US/Europe. ...and the UK too, if you activate the interlock on the (missing) earth leg with a toothpick (240vAC scares me) when you plug it in. So, what you are advocating is electrocuting yourself if the earth is live and bypassing the fuse so that you can blow up your device in case of a power surge? :-P (yes, I know.. the UK charger has no user accessible fuse) I personally like what Apple did with all it's current chargers. My UK iPod charger has a clip on UK plug. My MacBook charger has both the same type of plug attachment and also an attachment that gives a long lead with a plug on the end. Pure genuis!! I'm pretty sure I could just buy the plug replacement for Europe/USA from Apple and not the entire charger - this would seem a lot more economical. I could also buy one adapter and use it for either iPod or Macbook. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 European Power Adapter
Theodore Tso wrote: This is all true, but those plugs take up a huge amount of space in laptop bags... and the number of times that I've had my equipment blow up due to grounding problems or power surges is nil. And a fuse doesn't protect against voltage spikes. Size is relative. Depends on what you are used to really. I find US and European outlets scary as heck, because they usually have no on/off switch. It's fairly rare to find an outlet int he UK without a on/off switch. The fuse will blow before the fuse in the fusebox at the mains dispatch board, so yeah, it does protect the device. This is ignoring any internal fuses that might exist in the device to protect US and European users ;-) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 European Power Adapter
Luca Olivetti wrote: I find US and European outlets scary as heck, because they usually have no on/off switch. It's fairly rare to find an outlet int he UK without a on/off switch. Maybe that's because your huge plug it's too difficult to unplug we just unplug them ;-) Our pugs are actually safer because you can't pull them out by the flex, so you don't stress the chord or pull the wires out of the plug. All plugs are easily removed though. They just pull out. The switch turns off the power when not in use. Otherwise the outlet is live, even with nothing plugged in. That is just insane. It's pretty hard for a child to electrocute themselves with a UK plug socket because of this and the shutters. People still use covers, but need them a lot less than in the US/Europe. I can also walk in to any hardware store an buy a replacement plug and fit it, should I want to. European and US plugs always seem to be molded. The fuse will blow before the fuse in the fusebox at the mains dispatch board, so yeah, it does protect the device. Only if the device is less valuable than the fuse, otherwise the device will blow up stealthily protecting the fuse :-D http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=4526doy=20m3 Yeah, really expensive ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_1363 This is ignoring any internal fuses that might exist in the device to protect US and European users ;-) We in the continent are well protected by these gizmos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_breaker much more effective than a fuse and a plug dimensioned to power a small factory ;-) Yeah, we have those too. You did read about the limitations though? Limitations A residual current circuit breaker cannot remove all risk of electric shock or fire. In particular, an RCD alone will not detect overload conditions, phase to neutral short circuits or phase-to-phase /wiki/Three_phase_electric_power short circuits. Over-current protection (fuse /wiki/Fuse_%28electrical%29 or circuit /wiki/Circuit_breaker breaker /wiki/Circuit_breaker) must be provided. So, really you need a fuse too :-) Adios! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Locked out of my own machine?!?!?
Mark Haury wrote: Public answer (as I replied privately too) Install becomeroot. Google for it. Matt I've searched the site, and the root password on my N800 with OS2008 2.2007.51-3 is *NOT* rootme. How the heck do I get root access on my own @#!$%^ machine!?!? They should at *least* have sudo enabled for the default user! GRRR!!! Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: startup questions
Mark wrote: That really is a huge pain. What if you're out somewhere away from your desktop and need to be root? And all these other workarounds may work, but we shouldn't be having to jump through these hoops to gain root on our own personal devices. Installing becomeroot solves this issue entirely. One off install. No need to worry from then on. To be root: $ sudo gainroot ROOT SHELL $ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810. Bluetooth networking
Vladimir wrote: Hi all. I want to be able to connect Nokia N810 using Bluetooth to my PC and use PC network connection to connect to internet. I found a howto: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto-bluetoothnetworking-dun-ppp/ If you can set up a Bluetooth PAN (Private Area Network) in Windows, there is a PAN driver available. This site seems to be a tutorial on how to do this: http://www.wifizard.com/tutorialsXP/generic_bluetooth_pan/index.htm very odd site though, it seems to look like an XP style wizard. Odd! HTH ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810. Bluetooth networking
Nils Faerber wrote: I would like to see PAN being used for that - using DUN from Linux device to Linux device seem pretty brain dead to me, sorry. But PAN is ont integrated in Maemo - well I guess the modules are there and pand exists but it is not integrated into the framework and UI.. Well, https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemo-pan exists. I've never tried it, but it installs another connection type in the connection manager. Is that not what you though was missing? I think it was only release a short while ago though. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Twitter Client
Tim Ashman wrote: Anyone know of a twitter client for the n810. I can use the website directly to tweet and the RSS Reader to watch but I'd like to have an interface that didn't use the web for creating the tweets? Also does anyone know of a way to decrease the RSS feed update time on the home applet. It only goes to 15 minutes, I'm assuming there is a text file somewhere I can manually adjust this farther down. If no one replies - I was thinking of writing one. I just downloaded the SDK. The Twitter API is pretty simple. Going to try writing it is Vala too. Having said that, I wonder if the author of Mauku would be open to adding Twitter too? Almost the same thing at the end of the day. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Twitter Client
- Original message - So can you IM into twitter? Yeah, but it's not as slck as something like thwirl or tweetr. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Restoring on screen keyboard
Paul Gear wrote: I experience this issue as well sometimes when i use my Thinkoutside Bluetooth foldable keyboard. Like you, i've found no workaround. I updated to the second release of OS2008 (51-3 is it?) and tried again. It seems to work for me if I just yank the USB connector out now, but not if I gracefully remove the device with the USB applet. Maybe it's gracefully removing it that causes the issue? At any rate, it seemed to work most of the time. It can still be flaky. It seems best to have something like Notes open when you plug in the keyboard, and also when you unplug it. Matt ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: audible notification when email arrives?
Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote: Is there a way to get audible notification when email arrives? Modest flashes the D pad light and I'm sure it also pings. Chat messages ping. Claws did too in OS2007. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: fetchmail?
Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote: Is email received by a standard fetchmail mechanism? Is arriving email placed in a standard location like /var/mail/user or /var/spool/mail/user? I noticed that the directories /var/mail/ and /var/spool/mail/ exist but they are empty. I thin that is 100% dependent on mail client. I think all the mail clients use pop or imap and such, but then use their own transport and storage mechanism. Modest only downloads headers and then downloads the body when requested. I don't think it's impossible, but as a device for consumers, I would assume that it is unlikely to work using fetchmail, ever, out of the box. It's more of a work station rather than a server, I think. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: task launcher environment
Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote: Change the .desktop file to run a script that ensures you have the correct user and environment and cwd/pwd or whatever. This is a common problem with launching apps outside of the commandline I think - for example BeOS would do the exact same thing, including losing the path the app was run from within the app framework. Very annoying! My question is this. What is the environment (not just the environment variables but also the directory, umask, ulimits, etc.) that programs run by the task launcher get? How can I control that environment? I can I make sure that .profile is run in the environment in which programs run by the task launcher are run? I would like the task launcher to run programs in the same environment and with the same directory as is the case in a shell started up in a virgin osso X terminal window. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: osso-rss-feed-reader source (was Re: N800 user unhappy with OS2008 upgrade...)
Eero Tamminen wrote: This is a localization package, I don't see why RSS would need that to build. Does it build if you just remove that dependency from the debian/control file? In fact, it looks like it is only there because the developer is an Indian - it's a translation package for Marathi - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathi_language I highly doubt it is a prerequisite to build the entire package for an English speaking audience. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia buys Trolltech
Alberto Garcia wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:16:25AM +, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: Maemo platforms [...] Maemo will continue to be based on Gnome [...] and S40 and S60 will evolve with Qt Okay, but can you assume Nokia wont step by step drop Maemo? Of course not (not even before this announcement). I'm no futurologist, I just wrote what I heard in the webcast :) There is a tricky balancing act here - on the one hand, Qt is an extremely productive and extensive library and has a much nicer programming interface than GTK (excluding GTKMM, which I haven't looked at yet) - things like QtDesigner also make it quite compelling. On the other hand, Qtopia is not as nice a GUI as Maemo. The versions of Qtopia I've used (based off of the Zaurus sl5500 ROM versions 3.1 and 2.38 - Qtopia 1.x based, the Trolltech Qt 2.x ROM (very nice looking) as well as Opie the forked version of Qtopia free) were very much in the PalmOS mold. Desktop with shortcuts to apps, plus Windows style start menu. Having used Maemo for a while, I much prefer the widgets on the desktop and the programs int he sub menu. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Anything OTHER THEN Mediastreamer?
DrFredC.com wrote: Randall wrote: I've tried Canola and UKMP, but the built-in player is the only one that will see my TVersity server. Is it me or am I missing something? Perhaps I'm missing something -- If the built-in player works, what's the problem? In OS2008, the Media player does a very adequate job of UPNP. It only barfs on video that there is no codec support for. I found the Media Streamer to be fairly confusing compared to the simplicity of the Media Player. YMMV. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia buys Trolltech
Steve Yelvington wrote: Now, this is interesting. http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.4605718236 Okay, usually I don't post FUD, bet here goes: About 8 months ago, I was working for a company that wanted to utilise RFID with locational reporting. Nokia sold us on their Field force platform. I was written in Java and used special phones with either RFID readers built in or RFID readers built in to jackets. I went on a training course with 2 other people from my company and we were quite happy and excited with the solution. We were encouraged when the trainer (nice Spanish fellow) seemed open to feeding our requirements back to the developers. The API was okay, and the example applications gave us an off the shelf midp applet to get going with. Right. Here's were it turns out nasty.About 3 or 4 weeks after the training course, our accounts were canceled and moved to a new server. Odd we thought. About 2 -3 weeks after that, the entire Field Force project was canceled. The project was put on maintenance - that is, no improvements, vague promises of support for 2 or 3 years, and the phone we required (ruggedised 6xxx series iirc) was canceled. So, the entire project was thrown off kilter. I really, really hope that experience will not be repeated here. My experience with Nokia is otherwise positive, but (making a bit of a quantum leap) I hope that QTopia will be offered as an alternate, not a replacement to Maemo. QTopia is a lot more traditional PDA based and I'm not sure I would like to end up with that as an upgrade path. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!
Kevin T. Neely wrote: This is quite timely, since the FCC spectrum auction just went up today: https://auctionsignon.fcc.gov/signon/index.htm So don't look backward to 20th Century technology, look forward to ubiquitous wireless access, making VOIP a reality and ditching those SIM cards forever. Being English, I can flatly point out that this means diddly squat to Nokia. You need to look at what is happening in Europe to know what is going on in the minds of Nokia. It doesn't matter a damn if you have sold lots of frequencies, they are not valid out side of the US and therefore irrelevant. The FCC does not regulate my airwaves ;-) Seriously, there is a world over here in Europe, you know ;-) We all use GSM. Our 3G uses different frequencies. This is what screwed Apple over. If Apple had wanted an easy ride, they could have used a US only phone standard and sold a lot more units probably. But using GSM, they opened the international market up a lot faster. However, not having a 3G standard world wide is a big problem for them. Hence the shuffling excuses, I guess. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Skype video?
Michael R. Head (N810) wrote: - Original message - Michael R. Head wrote: Hi, now that I've got Skype installed on my N810, I'm wondering if there's a way to enable video (the n810 has a nice little camera for video conferencing, why not use it?). I haven't found anything in the Skype settings to enable this. thanks, mike Skype does not support video right now, and it appears there are no such plans. You might try the new GizmoProject beta (4.0) which has video support on PC and N8xx Gotcha. I've had a gizmo account for some time (and just got around to linking it into my contacts)... I just have many more contacts on skype. Too bad skype isn't looking at video for maemo... They just got around to adding it on linux. Not wishing to hijack the thread, but I'd love to see video support in Flash! Video support in Skype is a niche for me, but video in flash would rock. Also... Skype seems not to like the full screen keyboard.. that is iritating. I'm sure it worked at one point... but I use Pidgin mostly, so that migh have clouded my memory. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Garnet VM
Andrew Barr wrote: Access is in the business of selling to OEMs, not end users. I find it highly doubtful that they are going to charge for this, because it's more of a technology demo than an actual marketable end-user product. I suspect that the emulator is based on POSE or their other later ARM enabled emulator. These were always provided for free. The effort has already gone in to developing the core of the product, so charging for it seems a little odd. Then again, PalmOS isn't really making a lot of money at the moment and the Access Linux Platform is yet to be released. Maybe they'll use Nokia tablets to hone their code. After all, it'll probably be running on Linux for Arm at some point. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A (BETA) BACKUP
Frank W. Kooistra wrote: after reflash : no restore backup : for the menu: only .finger layout No stylus layout This is the expected behaviour now, isn't it? OS 2008 always has the large menu layout now, doesn't it? Certainly, that was my impression. The annoying thing is the lack of finger keyboard detection and the unresponsiveness (mis reading of taps and constant doubling of typing) for the finger keyboard. OS 2007's was quite good, but OS 2008 is much, much less usable. Matt ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Battery issues (was: Re: fm radio)
Piotr Zagorowski wrote: I stopped fmradio home aplet and it was gone. I don't think it caused my battery lasting only one day, but it may explain how fmradio 'knows' whether headset is connected or not. Off topic - so changed the subject line. The following is probably a potential cause of your battery issues: Killing the Metadata Crawler daemon/process and renaming the executable so that it does not auto run is what improved my battery life. I was getting a day, 2 days max (fully charged in the evening with 8 days, waking up to less than one day or a completely dead tablet.) After killing the craler, I get days and days and days of standby. For example, my tablet was reporting 5 days last night and was charged a few days ago. Does anyone know if this has been reported as a bug? Last version of the OS2007 firmware seemed to do the same thing for me. I applied the same fix and got the same results. Matt ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Battery issues
Frantisek Dufka wrote: Matt Emson wrote: Does anyone know if this has been reported as a bug? Last version of the OS2007 firmware seemed to do the same thing for me. I applied the same fix and got the same results. There may be more bugs reported, here is one I've seen just few minutes ago when searching for something else http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1842 Similar, yes. I added a comment. I also remembered another Media player bug (see separate email) M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Media player bug
If I kill the Metadata Crawler process to extend battery life to usable terms, the media library does not get updated - fair enough, this is to be expected. However, if I go to my SD or MMC card in File Manager and delete files in the Media library, I can not remove those files from the library listing in Media Player. Yes this is a slightly advanced thing to be doing, but until the mess that Metadata crawler causes with regards to battery life is resolved, who can blame me for killing the crawler to get respectable up time? M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: modest persistence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dirk, Modest is an extremely nice application, nice work! Not without changing the source code and recompiling, no. (the change isn't too hard, search for the places where MODEST_DIR is used). Anything particular reason you want to have your ~/.modest elsewhere? Device memory is finite. The larger your mailbox, the more data is stored. I for one regularly leave all my mail on my pop3 server to allow multiple mail clients to sync over time (one at home, one at work, N800). One potential bug to add to the list (I know this should be a thread, but I'm not sure if it's just me or really an issue): I have, as stated, regularly 15000+ emails on my pop3 server account. Modest handles this up to a point, but if I delete a lot of the historical messages, it goes completely bezerk. It then takes 5 - 10 minutes to sync every time the mail is checked, yet if I delete the account and re-create it with the same setting, all is fine again. It looks like it tries to verify the email exists still every time. Surely this is not right? Whilst it was taking a long time to sync, I deleted all the mail in the inbox to see if that would help. Unfortunately, this had no effect. I'm wondering what will happen when my main email instance deletes the trailing emails from the account (should only leave 30 days worth, but I tend only to do that once every 2 - 3 months these days.) Hope that helps, Matt ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: modest persistence
Jonathan Greene wrote: Don't you think you make a good case for using imap Maybe, however my ISP doesn't/hasn't provided me with an IMAP account (to the best of my knowledge - they have been taken over 3 times and rebranded at least twice.) Also, this solution has worked for over 10 years (since ~ 1998 in fact, though I've had the account since 1995.). My creaky old PalmPilot Professional handled it fairly successfully, my long gone Handspring Visor also handled it, and my Sharp Zaurus Sl5500 did a reasonable job too. Modest seemed to work, until it decided to take unreasonable amounts of time to sync the headers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Modest, per se, but it should be able to handle this situation gracefully too. Matt ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Video converter
Josh Z wrote: Thanks for the hint, drfredc! Unfortunately RM VBR is not included in the supported formats of handbrake. Still looking... Please advise on. If you are using Windows, take a look at Super : http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html The web page is overly confusing, but I have never been able to fault the software. It does a pretty good job with most formats I've thrown at it. Worst problems have been audio sync issues - which are painful to fix, but are fixable with tweaks to the settings. I also use Videora iPod Converter for my iPod and have found that the h.264 that outputs works pretty well on the N800. Not tried it past a couple of videos though - I usually watch video on previously mentioned iPod. Hope that helps, M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
