Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-10-02 Thread lakestevensdental
Michael Conklin wrote:
> I had the same experience - I deleted documentation files and it 
> seemed to provide enough space but when I rebooted I got in an endless 
> reboot loop and had to reflash. Fortunately that fixed some other 
> problems I was having like the RSS feeder not working, still a pain 
> setting up my claws mail accounts again.
Hint : When installing Claws, put the email files on the external memory 
card.   You may have to install Claws again on a reflash, but the files 
and Claws organization may survive reflashing.   At least it seems to 
have worked that way the last couple times I had to mess with flashing 
and had to 'restore' from backup.

Always, Fred C


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Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-10-01 Thread Eero Tamminen

Hi,

ext Scott wrote:
Along these same lines, is there a file browser that will see the  
entire "disk" including the hidden folders so I can see where the  
files are piling up and which temp ones can be deleted? Or is there a  
utility for the n810 similar to TreeSize (windoze program) that will  
show you all the folders and how much space each folder (recursive)  
takes up?


I use something like the attached scripts from command line on
the device:
du-fs-contents.sh -- shows sizes of directory contents, dir at the time
package-sizes.sh -- list sizes of all packages according to pkg database

NOTE: the package (database) "Installed-Size" information isn't
trustworthy, the package can take a lot less disk space:
* on install certain documentation directories are removed from
  the packages (with docpurge) and amount of that can be quite large
* The file system is also LZO compressed, so files may take
  significantly less space than they appear. For example:
# cd /home/user/MyDocs/.documents
# lzop osso_software_copyright.pdf
# ls -s osso_software_copyright.pdf*
1359 osso_software_copyright.pdf
334  osso_software_copyright.pdf.lzo

I.e. the PDF file actually takes only few hundred KB from the file
system instead of over MB.  Some other files like jpeg, png, mp3, wma
etc ones are in an already compressed format.


Debian localepurge might also be useful, but I don't know whether
it can be easily used on our tablets:
http://packages.debian.org/etch/localepurge


- Eero


du-fs-contents.sh
Description: application/shellscript


package-sizes.sh
Description: application/shellscript
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Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-09-30 Thread Michael Conklin
I had the same experience - I deleted documentation files and it seemed to
provide enough space but when I rebooted I got in an endless reboot loop and
had to reflash. Fortunately that fixed some other problems I was having like
the RSS feeder not working, still a pain setting up my claws mail accounts
again.

Mike

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Tommy Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > emelFM2 is a very handy file manager that should meet your
> > requirements. DiskUsage is a utility that might actually be very
> > helpful in your scenario as well.
>
> I used DisUsage and manually removed some documentation pdf files. And
> I uninstalled big packages like gnumeric.
>
> The first time I tried to upgrade I hade 35M free or something like
> that and the upgrade proceeded but the installation failed and when I
> rebooted I got into a reboot loop and I hade to reflash the device.
>
> The second time I tried I had 70M free and it worked...
>
> --
> /Tommy Persson
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Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-09-30 Thread Tommy Persson
Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> emelFM2 is a very handy file manager that should meet your
> requirements. DiskUsage is a utility that might actually be very
> helpful in your scenario as well.

I used DisUsage and manually removed some documentation pdf files. And
I uninstalled big packages like gnumeric.

The first time I tried to upgrade I hade 35M free or something like
that and the upgrade proceeded but the installation failed and when I
rebooted I got into a reboot loop and I hade to reflash the device.

The second time I tried I had 70M free and it worked...

-- 
/Tommy Persson
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Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-09-30 Thread Peter Bart
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:59:51 -0500
Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Along these same lines, is there a file browser that will see the  
> entire "disk" including the hidden folders so I can see where the  
> files are piling up and which temp ones can be deleted? Or is there
> a utility for the n810 similar to TreeSize (windoze program) that
> will show you all the folders and how much space each folder
> (recursive) takes up?
> 
> -- Scott
> 
> On Sep 30, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Michael Conklin wrote:
> 
> > In trying to install the OS Feature Upgrade this morning I get the  
> > message, insufficient space in target location.  Since the target  
> > location is the built in memory, I am wondering what the best  
> > strategy would be?  Should I uninstall applications until I get  
> > sufficient space and then reinstall later, or is there some better  
> > strategy?

Just in case you missed it, move whatever files you may have
downloaded or other from /home/user/MyDocs. You can use the built in
file manager for this. The subdirectories include images and video as
well as documents. Hope this helps.

Best Regards,

-- 
___Peter The Plumber sm on the road

Sent from a mobile Internet Tablet
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Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-09-30 Thread Mark
emelFM2 is a very handy file manager that should meet your
requirements. DiskUsage is a utility that might actually be very
helpful in your scenario as well.

Unfortunately, you're in a bit of a catch-22 if you've run out of room
to install anything...

Mark

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Along these same lines, is there a file browser that will see the
> entire "disk" including the hidden folders so I can see where the
> files are piling up and which temp ones can be deleted? Or is there a
> utility for the n810 similar to TreeSize (windoze program) that will
> show you all the folders and how much space each folder (recursive)
> takes up?
>
> -- Scott
>
> On Sep 30, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Michael Conklin wrote:
>
>> In trying to install the OS Feature Upgrade this morning I get the
>> message, insufficient space in target location.  Since the target
>> location is the built in memory, I am wondering what the best
>> strategy would be?  Should I uninstall applications until I get
>> sufficient space and then reinstall later, or is there some better
>> strategy?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
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Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-09-30 Thread Bruce Stephens
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Along these same lines, is there a file browser that will see the
> entire "disk" including the hidden folders so I can see where the
> files are piling up and which temp ones can be deleted? Or is there a
> utility for the n810 similar to TreeSize (windoze program) that will
> show you all the folders and how much space each folder (recursive)
> takes up?

Also something like deborphan (so one can get a list of packages that
might be  safely removable).  And perhaps some way to see how
much space packages occupy.
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Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-09-30 Thread Scott
Along these same lines, is there a file browser that will see the  
entire "disk" including the hidden folders so I can see where the  
files are piling up and which temp ones can be deleted? Or is there a  
utility for the n810 similar to TreeSize (windoze program) that will  
show you all the folders and how much space each folder (recursive)  
takes up?

-- Scott

On Sep 30, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Michael Conklin wrote:

> In trying to install the OS Feature Upgrade this morning I get the  
> message, insufficient space in target location.  Since the target  
> location is the built in memory, I am wondering what the best  
> strategy would be?  Should I uninstall applications until I get  
> sufficient space and then reinstall later, or is there some better  
> strategy?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
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