Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages being archived but not sent

2005-01-20 Thread Samuel Gabel
My postfix kind of did use the smtpd_restrictions , but in the
/etc/postfix/access file no restrictions were given, so actually no.
But i uncommented it in main.cf, but it doesn't make a difference.
Somehow i am not convinced, that this is a postfix issue, because in the
postfix logfiles no activity of mailman can be seen. If it would try to
send messages but would get rejected, then postfix would probably say so
in the logs.

samuel

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[Mailman-Users] Listowners discussion list

2005-01-20 Thread Dana Evans
Hi - my ISP just forced us to move from Majordomo to Mailman, but they
don't seem to know much about administering it. I am trying to figure out
how the admin can subscribe/unsubscribe and approve moderated messages via
email, rather than the website.

I have read through all of the documentation and FAQs, but can't seem to
find anything on the topic. I tried to go to the page on Listowners
discussion list to subscribe and beg for help, but the link doesn't seem
to be working (on http://list.org/lists.html - I get a page cannot be
displayed error).

Please, please can you help? Extreme TIA - dana
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[Mailman-Users] Question about your mail list

2005-01-20 Thread Vic Levine
When a person receives an email that has been posted to the list, and they
want to respond, is there a choice to respond to all the members of the list
or just to the person who sent out the email?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Listowners discussion list

2005-01-20 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:12 PM -0800 2005-01-19, Dana Evans wrote:
 Hi - my ISP just forced us to move from Majordomo to Mailman, but they
 don't seem to know much about administering it. I am trying to figure out
 how the admin can subscribe/unsubscribe and approve moderated messages via
 email, rather than the website.
	There's not much documentation on the e-mail interface to 
Mailman.  What documentation there is, unfortunately, it oriented 
towards users (see http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node10.html). 
Pretty much all the list manager documentation at 
http://www.list.org/admins.html is aimed at people who will be 
using the web interface.

  I tried to go to the page on Listowners
 discussion list to subscribe and beg for help, but the link doesn't seem
 to be working (on http://list.org/lists.html - I get a page cannot be
 displayed error).
	This issue is addressed in the FAQ.  See 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.025.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about your mail list

2005-01-20 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:03 PM -0600 2005-01-19, Vic Levine wrote:
 When a person receives an email that has been posted to the list, and they
 want to respond, is there a choice to respond to all the members of the list
 or just to the person who sent out the email?
	That depends on the settings and capabilities of your mail 
program, and the settings of the list.

	If you are a list administrator, you should see 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.048.htp.

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[Mailman-Users] good reading for multiple MM installations?

2005-01-20 Thread Yassen Damyanov
Trying to find a good reading about multiple MM installations
with no success. Anyone to point me to something helpful?

Need this in the context of handling virtual domain mailing
lists with separate list name spaces.

Thanks in advance!
Yassen
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[Mailman-Users] withlist -l -r fix_url fails to change link in archive

2005-01-20 Thread brian.ensor
Hello- 

I am in the process of moving lists from a server running mailman 2.1.2 to a 
server running version 2.1.5 on a different system and at a new url.  I have 
gone through many FAQ's describing the steps and have been very successful.  
There is one part that I can not figure out and am looking for help. 

After I have move all the files and completed the 'check_perms -f', 
receiving no errors, I go to run the command 'withlist -l -r fix_url 
mylist'.  After this completes, I am able to go into the web interface and 
login, search archives etc...all links appear to have been changed fine.  
When I go to the archives, it appears that all of the archive links were 
corrected to the new url except for one.  The 'More info on this list...' 
link still points to the old url.  This is the case for all old 
archives...the current archive has the correct url (i.e. 2005-January 
archive is fine, but 2004-December and earlier are not). 

I have checked the perms on the index.html file in each of the archives and 
they are correct.  The only difference is that I see on the 2.1.2 server 
files from one created new on the 2.1.5 server is that the index.html file 
in the $mailmandir/archives/listname is a symbolic link to thread.html 
instead of just a file index.html, but I can access the file through this 
link just fine. 

I can manually change the link in index.html, but this is too time consuming 
for all the lists I have to move. 

Thanks for any help. 

Brian
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[Mailman-Users] Delays - need help troubleshooting

2005-01-20 Thread Spencer Yost
I have been seeing very long delays in the outgoing-runner for several
months now and have list members that constantly complain, rightly so, on
how long messages take to deliver.  It doesn't matter which mailing list
and the persons affected may differ depending on the message (ie Billy bob
may complain one message and Sally Mae may complain the next and Billy Bob
won't).   I have done the following:

1 - upgraded servers
2 - tried more memory
3 - upgraded mailman 
4 - upgraded sendmail, 
5 - adding more outgoing runners


Nothing helps.  Here are some additional symptoms and clues:

1 - Outgoing-runner NEVER quits on its own when I issue a mailman stop.
I always have to issue mailman stop twice to get it to stop
2 - The delay occurs for local deliveries.  That is users with accounts on
the machine that is running mailman see the delay
3 - Logs are of no help (the logs just timestamp like mailman is running
real slow but gives no errors)
4 - No other outgoing mail (ie majordomo, bulk_mail, etc are affected)
5 - The delay doesn't always occur, or the delay is livable.
6 - Sendmail seems happy when you look at its logs.Sendmail seems to
deliver promptly to the local users or to mailman when it gets the
messages.

My Setup

Linux RH 9.0, using sendmail 8.13.0   mailman 2.1.5 with python 2.2.2

After my signature is a received trail from a delayed message I personally
got and I am user local to the mailman server.  Notice the 7 hour delay?

Spencer Yost
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[Mailman-Users] mail-gid problems

2005-01-20 Thread Ming Jack Po
Hey All,
I have a really weird issue.  I am currently running gentoo and just 
setup mailman (from source). 

Every time I setup.. I can use the lists normally in the beginning... 
make list .. lists function and all..

However, the moment I port some of my old data (the goal of this new 
installation is to get data from old installation to new one).

(move data from lists and archive directories to the new ones)
The installation immediately fails and outputs
Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be 
executed as group mailman, but the system's mail server executed the 
mail script as group nobody. etc etc

I am using postfix, gentoo, mailman..
Any help would be very much appreciated,
Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Delays - need help troubleshooting

2005-01-20 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:50 AM -0500 2005-01-20, Spencer Yost wrote:
 After my signature is a received trail from a delayed message I personally
 got and I am user local to the mailman server.  Notice the 7 hour delay?
	Take a look at the discussion at 
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041815.html. 
This problem can affect Mailman just as easily as it does sendmail. 
Make sure that you don't allow these directories to build up to a 
large size, and take a look at cleaning them out periodically.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on RHAS3

2005-01-20 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 22:09, Steven Jones wrote:
 OK, so has anybody successfully installed RH's mailman like this?

yes :-)

 I also want to use the sourceforg webmin module to create lists

I'm sorry, but I'm not at all familar with webmin, however I can answer
questions concerning RH mailman.

 so does anybody have ideas where,
 
 1) Errors might be logged?

mailman errors are logged to /var/log/mailman/error
I don't know where webmin errors are logged, but you should look at
/var/log/messages for anything suspicious.

 I have created the mailman list using newlist successfully (as far as I can 
 tell)
 and mailman is running as service mailman status shows a PID and
  ps aux |grep mailman shows 9 processes, 8 of which are runners.

Sure sounds to me like mailman is running fine. I assume aside from
creating the mailman list and checking process status you've verified
mailman you can send and receive mail to a test list and that your web
server is serving mailman cgi correctly.

I suspect your problems may lie with webmin, perhaps a webmin user list
would be better able to answer your questions.
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman personalized salutations?

2005-01-20 Thread Mark Ramsey 04
Can Mailman (v. 2.1.5) be used to personalize salutaions, using the real
name that is associated with the email address in the email list file?  e.g.
Dear Mailman User, Dear Mark, Dear Wendy, etc.

If so, please advise.

Many thanks.

Mark
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RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman on RHAS3

2005-01-20 Thread Steven Jones
The logical point now might well be to remove RH's rpm and install mailman's 
rpm and see if it works.

regards

Steven

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On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 22:09, Steven Jones wrote:
 OK, so has anybody successfully installed RH's mailman like this?

yes :-)

 I also want to use the sourceforg webmin module to create lists

I'm sorry, but I'm not at all familar with webmin, however I can answer
questions concerning RH mailman.

 so does anybody have ideas where,
 
 1) Errors might be logged?

mailman errors are logged to /var/log/mailman/error
I don't know where webmin errors are logged, but you should look at
/var/log/messages for anything suspicious.

 I have created the mailman list using newlist successfully (as far as I can 
 tell)
 and mailman is running as service mailman status shows a PID and
  ps aux |grep mailman shows 9 processes, 8 of which are runners.

Sure sounds to me like mailman is running fine. I assume aside from
creating the mailman list and checking process status you've verified
mailman you can send and receive mail to a test list and that your web
server is serving mailman cgi correctly.

I suspect your problems may lie with webmin, perhaps a webmin user list
would be better able to answer your questions.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman personalized salutations?

2005-01-20 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:10 AM -0600 2005-01-20, Mark Ramsey 04 wrote:
 Can Mailman (v. 2.1.5) be used to personalize salutaions, using the real
 name that is associated with the email address in the email list file?  e.g.
 Dear Mailman User, Dear Mark, Dear Wendy, etc.
	If you had searched the Mailman FAQ Wizard at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py, you should have come up 
with the entry at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.037.htp 
which addresses this question.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman on RHAS3

2005-01-20 Thread Steven Jones
8

 I have created the mailman list using newlist successfully (as far as I can 
 tell)
 and mailman is running as service mailman status shows a PID and
  ps aux |grep mailman shows 9 processes, 8 of which are runners.

Sure sounds to me like mailman is running fine. I assume aside from
creating the mailman list and checking process status you've verified
mailman you can send and receive mail to a test list and that your web
server is serving mailman cgi correctly.

I suspect your problems may lie with webmin, perhaps a webmin user list
would be better able to answer your questions.
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Thanks,

but using the genuine mailman rpm and webmin module I get workable results. 
So all I have changed is to the RH mailman.rpm, so more logically, the problem 
lies with,

1) RH's rpm being different in some way
2) Ive missed something while configuring.
3) Ive missed installing some essential dependancy for webmin.

Since webwin's module is extreamely simple ie a file pointing to the newlist, 
rmlist, aliases and newaliases I am tending to look at diffences in 
permissions, the user it runs as or something along these lines, ie something 
RH has customised. It may not be this, but I need to eliminate this in order to 
be confident its 2) or 3).

:}

Re: testing, I am trying to create a test list using webmin at present to test, 
hence these posts.

regards

Steven



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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail-gid problems

2005-01-20 Thread Tierra
Are you orginally running the scripts (during make list, etc) as
mailman? Did you already set MAILGID during emerge mailman? If not,
this may help...

If you put the following line in /etc/portage/bashrc, and re-emerge
mailman, this should fix your problem:

MAILGID=mailman

I'm not very experienced with the smaller details concerning your
problem, but I hope that helps. On a side note, I'm running
gentoo/mailman/qmail.

Bryan Petty

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:37:41 -0500, Ming Jack Po [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey All,
 
 I have a really weird issue.  I am currently running gentoo and just
 setup mailman (from source).
 
 Every time I setup.. I can use the lists normally in the beginning...
 make list .. lists function and all..
 
 However, the moment I port some of my old data (the goal of this new
 installation is to get data from old installation to new one).
 
 (move data from lists and archive directories to the new ones)
 
 The installation immediately fails and outputs
 
 Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be
 executed as group mailman, but the system's mail server executed the
 mail script as group nobody. etc etc
 
 I am using postfix, gentoo, mailman..
 
 Any help would be very much appreciated,
 Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Creating new list from web page

2005-01-20 Thread Robert Haack
I get the following error when I attempt to create a new list from 
Mailman Create page:

 *Error: /You are not authorized to create new mailing lists/*
I checked out the FAQ archive and didn't see anything related to this.  
I can create a list from the command line just fine, just not from the 
MM web page.  Can somebody tell me how to fix this problem?

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[Mailman-Users] post not logged as 'posted' but appears in archives

2005-01-20 Thread Anne Ramey
I have a couple of messages posted to a list (moderated list, sent 
weekly) that appear in the lists archives, but not in the post log for 
mailman.  The weeks before that they appear like this:

Jan 06 14:03:41 2005 (1967) post to tn_sale from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=16694, 3 failures

Always with 3 failures.  Then last week, the 13th there are no errors 
anywhere, but no posted log.  Also, their number of out-of-office and 
bounces seem very low.  They are concerned that it never finished 
sending.  They sent another today--again, no posted message.  I did not 
receive todays yet, but it was sent around 11 this morning...and there 
doesn't seem to be anything in the outgoing queue.  The server is not 
acting like mailman is busy--I'm not seeing python tasks popping up 
frequently, like I do when it's sending usually. What else can I check? 
 Has this happened to anyone else?

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[Mailman-Users] HTML conversion does not work

2005-01-20 Thread Ralph Stahl
I want MM to convert incoming HTML mails to plain text and to forward
them as no-multipart messages. I use the option convert to
plain/text. But HTML messages come as plain text in 3 parts
(header/body/footer) instead of 1. What can I do? I am using MM 2.1.5.

Sorry for my English please :-).
Ralph
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Re: [Mailman-Users] post not logged as 'posted' but appears in archives

2005-01-20 Thread Anne Ramey
I finally found some errors, in the syslog.
 postfix/smtpd[10144]: warning: connect to mysql server localhost: Too 
many connections

This was trying to resolve aliases, etc and running into too many 
connections.  I can understand how that may interfere with bounce 
processing, but would it interfere with the sending of the list?  How 
can I tell what's been sent and what hasn't ?

Anne Ramey
Anne Ramey wrote:
I have a couple of messages posted to a list (moderated list, sent 
weekly) that appear in the lists archives, but not in the post log for 
mailman.  The weeks before that they appear like this:

Jan 06 14:03:41 2005 (1967) post to tn_sale from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=16694, 3 failures

Always with 3 failures.  Then last week, the 13th there are no errors 
anywhere, but no posted log.  Also, their number of out-of-office and 
bounces seem very low.  They are concerned that it never finished 
sending.  They sent another today--again, no posted message.  I did not 
receive todays yet, but it was sent around 11 this morning...and there 
doesn't seem to be anything in the outgoing queue.  The server is not 
acting like mailman is busy--I'm not seeing python tasks popping up 
frequently, like I do when it's sending usually. What else can I check? 
 Has this happened to anyone else?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML conversion does not work

2005-01-20 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:13 PM +0100 2005-01-20, Ralph Stahl wrote:
 I want MM to convert incoming HTML mails to plain text and to forward
 them as no-multipart messages. I use the option convert to
 plain/text. But HTML messages come as plain text in 3 parts
 (header/body/footer) instead of 1. What can I do? I am using MM 2.1.5.
	Mailman can be configured to strip multipart MIME messages 
(allowing through just the first part), but due to 
content-transfer-encoding and charset differences, if you have any 
footers defined for the list, it may not be possible to have them 
appended in plain text form onto a message that was converted from 
HTML.

	This is related to the issue discussed in 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp.

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[Mailman-Users] It happened again: qrunners stopped on their own.

2005-01-20 Thread José Zapata
...but I found something interesting in the logs:

Jan 19 13:35:25 2005 (1660) BounceRunner qrunner started.
Jan 19 13:35:25 2005 (1666) RetryRunner qrunner started.
Jan 19 13:35:25 2005 (1659) ArchRunner qrunner started.
Jan 19 13:35:25 2005 (1662) IncomingRunner qrunner started.
Jan 19 13:35:25 2005 (1661) CommandRunner qrunner started.
Jan 19 13:35:25 2005 (1665) VirginRunner qrunner started.
Jan 19 13:35:25 2005 (1663) NewsRunner qrunner started.
Jan 19 13:35:25 2005 (1664) OutgoingRunner qrunner started.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1664) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1662) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1664) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1662) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1661) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1661) CommandRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1665) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1665) VirginRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1660) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1666) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1663) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 20 13:35:25 2005 (1659) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 20 13:35:26 2005 (1666) RetryRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 20 13:35:26 2005 (1663) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 20 13:35:26 2005 (1659) ArchRunner qrunner exi#ting.

The qrunners stopped exactly after one day. I checked past logs and sure enough:

Jan 14 10:53:19 2005 (27572) BounceRunner qrunner started.
Jan 14 10:53:19 2005 (27571) ArchRunner qrunner started.
Jan 14 10:53:19 2005 (27574) IncomingRunner qrunner started.
Jan 14 10:53:19 2005 (27573) CommandRunner qrunner started.
Jan 14 10:53:19 2005 (27577) VirginRunner qrunner started.
Jan 14 10:53:19 2005 (27578) RetryRunner qrunner started.
Jan 14 10:53:19 2005 (27575) NewsRunner qrunner started.
Jan 14 10:53:19 2005 (27576) OutgoingRunner qrunner started.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27571) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27572) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27571) ArchRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27573) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27573) CommandRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27574) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27574) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27575) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27575) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27576) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27576) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27577) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27577) VirginRunner qrunner exiting.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27578) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Jan 15 10:53:18 2005 (27578) RetryRunner qrunner exiting.

Stopped exactly after one day. I didn't catch it before. What could be 
happening?

TIA

José Z.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] It happened again: qrunners stopped on their own.

2005-01-20 Thread Larry Stone
On 1/20/05 4:57 PM, José Zapata at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stopped exactly after one day. I didn't catch it before. What could be
 happening?

Some sort of system daemon set up to not let any program (other than
operating system stuff obviously) run more than 24 hours?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] good reading for multiple MM installations?

2005-01-20 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Jan 20, 2005, at 22:30, Yassen Damyanov wrote:
Trying to find a good reading about multiple MM installations
with no success. Anyone to point me to something helpful?
When configuring/building Mailman, use the --prefix switch to put each 
in its own directory.   Each Apache configuration refers to a different 
installation directory for its ScriptAlias entries.  It is 
straightforward to extend the scheme described in the Exim HowTo to 
check multiple locations for list files, or you could configure your 
MTA to check multiple alias files.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] withlist -l -r fix_url fails to change link in archive

2005-01-20 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Jan 20, 2005, at 22:31, brian.ensor wrote:
After I have move all the files and completed the 'check_perms -f', 
receiving no errors, I go to run the command 'withlist -l -r fix_url 
mylist'.  After this completes, I am able to go into the web interface 
and login, search archives etc...all links appear to have been changed 
fine.  When I go to the archives, it appears that all of the archive 
links were corrected to the new url except for one.  The 'More info on 
this list...' link still points to the old url.  This is the case for 
all old archives...the current archive has the correct url (i.e. 
2005-January archive is fine, but 2004-December and earlier are not).
I'm actually surprised the links to the prior postings themselves 
appear to be correct rather than only the More info... link being 
wrong.  The Pipermail indexes are normally static, and so I would have 
expected you to have to do 'bin/arch --wipe' to rebuild them with the 
new URL information.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating new list from web page

2005-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Robert Haack wrote:

I get the following error when I attempt to create a new list from 
Mailman Create page:


  *Error: /You are not authorized to create new mailing lists/*

 I checked out the FAQ archive and didn't see anything related to this.  
I can create a list from the command line just fine, just not from the 
MM web page.  Can somebody tell me how to fix this problem?

At the bottom of the form in the box List creator's (authentication)
password: you must put either the site password or the special list
creators password as established with bin/mmsitepass.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] It happened again: qrunners stopped on their own.

2005-01-20 Thread José Zapata
You know... that could be it. In fact, it's very likely. Do you know by
chance of any ways to deactivate and/or tweak it? Keep in mind our dedicated
server is ours in every sense of the word - we don't have an ISP.

Thanks!

José Z.
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To: 'José Zapata' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] It happened again: qrunners stopped on their
own.


I had a similar problem

After a lot of head scratching, and watching the machine run, and scanning
directory trees, and eventually some reverse engineering of encrypted perl
scripts (a story in itself), I found out that my outsourced dedicated server
had a monitoring agent running on it that was killing off jobs that were
running longer than 24 hours that were not running as a specific group of
users (and mailman was not one of them).

Perhaps you have something similar happening?

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