[Mailman-Users] Re: Daily "pending moderator requests" despite empty moderation queue

[JACKSON]

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:28:46 +0100, Johannes Rohr  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> for some lists, the listowners in the last few days keep getting "pending 
> moderator requests" emails every day, even though there are no pending 
> requests. 
>
> What mechanism generates these requests and how can I get rid of those 
> redundant mails? (short of migrating to mailman 3 which I plan on doing)
>
> Cheers, thanks a lot in advance,
>
> Johannes

Hi Johannes, this may not be your problem, but I had a similar one:

https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/JC7A4D22FJQX6E5WJ5FNTWYIF3FJTMLK/

In case that wraps badly for you:

https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org

and search "SOLVED" and sort by latest first.  It will be on top.

The version of Mailman it refers-to is shown in the subject line.

Kind regards
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[Mailman-Users] SOLVED [Was: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests]

[jackson]

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021, Mark Sapiro wrote:


On 1/2/21 11:56 AM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote:



When you go to the admindb interface on "A", view the source of the
page. On the source of the page you should see a FORM tag with an
action=URL and method="POST". Is the host in the action=URL something
that resolves to "A" or does it go to "B"?


Having made just the one change to a temporary copy of the filled
pending requests form on 'A', changing the submission to 'A' there
were two give-aways:-

1.  This time "Database Updated..." appeared at the top left of the
"There are no pending requests" confirmation response page.

2.  I did *not* have to give a password again between originally
accessing the attending-to pending requests page and having
submitted the form.

The need to login again after having submitted the form, and
the absence of "Database Updated..." in the "There are no
pending requests" should have been a dead give-away that:

*  This is an example of Mailman having been migrated from A to B

*  A is displaying post-migration pages so form submits go to B

*  Inbound mail continued to be routed to A post-migration

*  After inbound mail was routed to B, mail is still in A's DB

*  To purge mail still in A's DB the submission needs to go to A

Thank you.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

[jackson]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, Mark Sapiro wrote:


On 1/1/21 1:43 PM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote:


What I'm still struggling with is...


Please send me one of these email notices off list. I need to see all
the headers from the raw message source. I'll see what I can see from that.


Thanks very much, doing so by pm...



I do have an issue understanding what's happening. If you get a notice
about pending requests and go to "B" and the requests are there and you
delete them, how is it that they reappear on "B"? That's the part I
don't understand.

I suspect part of this is DNS issues possibly combined with action URLs
in web forms containing a host name which doesn't point to the current
host. I.e., you go to http://B/mailman/admindb/LIST and the action URL
for the "submit" button actually points to "A".


I did migrate the list from one instance to another years ago.
In diagnosing the recent spamming, I did find an error:  Mail
was still being sent to the old instance.  I corrected on 13th
December.

Each morning I get attend-to pending requests for two spams,
on on either side of directing mail to the correct instance.

So this is increasingly beginning to sound like inconsistent
DNS aliases or /etc/host hostname or alias references.

According to the headers, the attend-to emails are being sent
by the old instance, 'A'.

The recipient of the emails is the list administrator on the
new instance, 'B'.

'B' forwards to the mail host 'C' which delivers to the
instance on which I read mail (which happens to be 'A').

Going-in on 'B', nothing is pending there.

Going-in on 'A', I clear them.  Tomorrow, they reappear with
exactly the same submission dates; one before I corrected the
inbound mail routing and one after.

Am I confused?  Boy am I confused!
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

[jackson]

It was a helpful suggestion.

Pipermail archiving directory hierarchy is out on NAS and is
shared however long-ago changes whould have broken archiving.
A non-member held post wouldn't be archived but thinking along
the same lines I had wondered about nightly NAS backup/restore.
System files are not shared and not under any nightly schedule.

Thanks.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

[jackson]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, Mark Sapiro wrote:


On 1/1/21 11:48 AM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote:



Then neither of those instances is the one sending the notices. You need
to look at the chain of Received: headers in the notice to find the IP
of the server that is originating them. Then you have to find all the
Mailman installations on that server to see which one has the list with
the pending request.


There's only a single Mailman installation on each of the instances.

True, 'A' is sending the email but 'B' has them held in the web UI.

At the risk of exhausting everyone's patience...

What I'm still struggling with is why tomorrow, 'A' will email
(I'll go in on web admin on 'A' there'll be nothing there).  I go in
on admin on 'B' the exact ones reported in the 'A's email will be
there, I'll discard them, 'B' will then say none pending, then
tomorrow the cycle repeats.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

[jackson]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, Mark Sapiro wrote:


On 1/1/21 1:55 AM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote:


Admin email received 8am each morning listing the pending
posts from non-members.

Mailman reports "There are no pending requests."

Tomorrow the same thing happens reporting the same historic
date of the non-member post.


See the FAQ article at .


The list was indeed migrated from one instance to another.

Surely the requests need to be cleared-out of the instance
doing the email reporting.

On both, Mailman reports "There are no pending requests."

The following day, another email and recurrence of the same
dated requests recur needing to be discarded.

Sure, removing the cron jobs would stop the attend-to emails
but can't be the root cause since each morning those same old
spams would be there needing to be discarded (again).
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

[jackson]

Some time ago, spam received from a faked address.

Admin email received 8am each morning listing the pending
posts from non-members.

Go in and:

1. select 'Reject' on each post
2. add the faked sender to the block from subscribing filter
3. submit all data

Mailman reports "There are no pending requests."

Tomorrow the same thing happens reporting the same historic
date of the non-member post.

* Have checked mailserver logs; not being received daily
* Have added fake addresses to upstream anti-spam blacklist

So, narrowing-down, seems Mailman has groundhog day syndrome?
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[Mailman-Users] Nesting lists, and other things

[John Jackson]

Hi Everyone! :)

What's the correct way (if any) to nest Mailman lists?

Is it correct practice to subscribe email addresses from the local 
host's alias file to the same host's Mailman lists?


Are there any suggested ways to expand on the Description information 
displayed on the http://xxx.yyy.zzz.edu/mailman/listinfo/ page, without 
actually sticking all that information into the list's field for that 
(since that's what's also used to form the list's 'Sender's Proper Name' 
in messages that go out from it?


I tried looking for documemtation for Mailman 2.1 but the references I've 
found so far indicate it's still being worked on.  I imagine those docs 
would be where I'd otherwise go to dig into these questions.  Thanks for 
everyone's help.  Mark Sapiro was an exceptional help to me with my last 
question! :)


-John

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[Mailman-Users] Pain, seeking Mailman/Postfix wisdom

[John Jackson]

Hi All:

Me:

 Solaris 10
 Postfix 2.4.6
 Mailman 2.1.12rc2
 Python 2.4.4
 postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py

I have: (2) domain names for the same host, of the form:

  namexxx.department.domain.tld (has an A and MX record)
  nameyyy.department.domain.tld (has a CNAME and MX record)

What I originally hoped for was to host some Mailman lists on my server 
and still have a handful of user accounts on the server be able to receive 
email directly.  Both the lists and the local users would have the same 
email address after the @, like so:


 list...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 list...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

After studying things for a while it seemed clear that maybe Mailman is 
not supposed to do that, and that I'd need to add a level to the domain 
name for Mailman to take over for it's lists, like this?


 list...@lists.namexxx.department.domain.tld
 ^
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

But...

..adding that additional level ('lists') puts me at five levels.  I'm 
trying to keep things as simple looking as can for my users.  So, I 
thought what I could do instead is create a second host name for Mailman 
to use, like this:


 list...@nameyyy.department.domain.tld
 list...@nameyyy.department.domain.tld

 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld
 user...@namexxx.department.domain.tld

My 'pain' is coming from frustration and confusion trying to learn Postfix 
and Mailman well enough to figure out whether I can do any of this or not.


I've been mucking around in the configs of both and trying to follow 
examples and suggestions in the documentation and from information found 
by sifting through them Internets with Google ;)


Do any of you have a take on it you would be kind enough to share with me? 
Thanks very much, for any/all help or advice, comments, etc.


-John

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[Mailman-Users] Expiration on moderated requests

[Rob Jackson]

I am looking into a way to expire any moderated requests that are older than
2 weeks.
 
Has this been discussed before? 
 
-Rob
 
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[Mailman-Users] VERP and AOL feedback

[Rob Jackson]

I have read a couple threads on this, but none have really been able to help
me.
 
I need to get the AOL feedback to work, but I need more header information.
VERP works great if it wasn't for one problem.  We have a HUGE customer
base, and this changes header information that the customer sees.
 
Is there anyway I could add header like X-Member.  This way it does not
interfere with what they see, or use for filtering.  I have added custom
headers already to our mailings, but I am not sure how I would go about
getting the actual e-mail address of the customer in there.
 
Thanks
-Rob
 
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[Mailman-Users] Rate limit by domain/mx

[Rob Jackson]

I know this isn't really a mailman issue, but I was just curious, those that
need rate limiting, what are you using?
 
I really need this set up, we have one list in paticular that has almost
1500 AOL subscribers, which is an announce only list, but the owner sends
out about 6 announcements at the same time flooding AOL with 9,000 messages,
and as fast as our MTA can handle.  Right now we are using sendmail 8.13.8.
 
Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Newgroup gatway and specific user rights

[Rob Jackson]

I have several newgroup gateways set up, but I need to tweak it a little.  I
have a two sets of users.  One set is LIST ONLY, and the other set is LIST
and NEWSGROUP.  Is there a way I can set this up in mailman?
 
-Rob
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I need to get "Sender:" address

[Rob Jackson]

Great, thanks, that worked.  I read about the USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER, but it
did not seem that it applied, a little confused there.

Thanks
-Rob
 

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From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:42 PM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] I need to get "Sender:" address

Rob Jackson wrote:

>I have messages coming from a Gatewayed Message board to mailman.  
>There is an extra field To: field and a Sender: field and I need to get 
>the Sender e-mail address.
> 
>I have tried modifying the SENDER_HEADERS to 
>('sender','from',None,'reply-to'), so sender is before from, but it 
>still grabs the "From" even if "Sender exists."


Which headers are searched and in which order depends on several things
including context. You probably need to set USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER to Yes in
mm_cfg.py.

Here are the details:

There are two Mailman.Message.Message methods for getting the sender.
They are get_sender() and get_senders().

If USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is Yes or True, get_sender() returns the first
address found from the headers Sender:, From:, and the unixfrom or envelope
sender. Otherwise the search order is From:, Sender:, unixfrom.

OTOH, get_senders() returns a list of all the addresses found in all the
headers listed in SENDER_HEADERS.

Thus, changing SENDER_HEADERS has no effect on the address returned by
get_sender() and  reordering SENDER_HEADERS only affects the order of the
addresses returned by get_senders().

The distinction is important, because in some contexts (e.g.
determining whether the sender is a list member), get_senders() is used to
get a list of addresses, whereas in other contexts (e.g.
determining if the sender is in *_these_nonmembers), get_sender() is used to
get a single address.

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[Mailman-Users] I need to get "Sender:" address

[Rob Jackson]

I have messages coming from a Gatewayed Message board to mailman.  There is
an extra field To: field and a Sender: field and I need to get the Sender
e-mail address.
 
I have tried modifying the SENDER_HEADERS to
('sender','from',None,'reply-to'), so sender is before from, but it still
grabs the "From" even if "Sender exists."
 
-Rob
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce ONLY list

[Rob Jackson]

Thank you much, and others.  I wasn't aware that you could discard the
moderated posts immediately...but I mainly do the backend stuff.

Thanks

-Rob
  

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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:09 PM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce ONLY list

Rob Jackson wrote:

>I need to create an announce only list, where people can subscribe, but 
>they cannot post.



See FAQ 3.11
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[Mailman-Users] Announce ONLY list

[Rob Jackson]

I need to create an announce only list, where people can subscribe, but they
cannot post.  I also have other lists that I will need to create continually
that will not be this way.
 
Is there a bit I can set for this list only so the subscribers cannot post.
 
Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Sendmail can't keep up with qfiles/out director

[Rob Jackson]

Our mail server is getting overloaded and the out directory will hit over
7,000 in just one day, and we can't clear them out fast enough.
 
We are using Sendmail as our MTA.
 
How can we speed things up?
 
-Rob
 
 
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[Mailman-Users] Move addresses from To: to Cc:

[Rob Jackson]

I want to be able to make all addresses that are put into the To: field when
a message is sent to the list into the Cc: field, so that when someone
replies to this particular message, all the other addresses do not get
replied to.  I want to make it so they need to use Reply to All in order to
do this.  Is there a setting for this, or will I need to modify code?
 
-Rob
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Double unsubscribe messages

[Rob Jackson]

 You know what...I just commented out the password check function so it
immediately removes the user without the use of a password so no
confirmation is needed.  This takes care of the issue because the user will
get unsubscribed before the body command can be processed. 

But I did learn that this is how the process is supposed to work.  I just
needed to make sure it wasn't something I did to break it.

-Rob

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Of Rob Jackson
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To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Double unsubscribe messages

If you put the word unsubscribe in both the subject and the body, I am
getting 2 unsubscribe messages.  Each message has a uniq link to
unsubscribe, but the both get sent out from the same unsubscribe message.
 
If you only put it in the subject, you get a single unsubscribe message.
 
Where would be the best place to start looking as to why this is happening?
 
-Rob
 
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[Mailman-Users] Double unsubscribe messages

[Rob Jackson]

If you put the word unsubscribe in both the subject and the body, I am
getting 2 unsubscribe messages.  Each message has a uniq link to
unsubscribe, but the both get sent out from the same unsubscribe message.
 
If you only put it in the subject, you get a single unsubscribe message.
 
Where would be the best place to start looking as to why this is happening?
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

Due to a change in the Message board, the messages come through as
multipart/mixed.

If I try to run this in the multipart/mixed section of Decorate.py, I get:

TypeError: expected string or buffer.

What needs to be done to make this work properly?

Thanks
-Rob
 

-Original Message-
From: Rob Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:49 PM
To: 'Rob Jackson'; 'Mark Sapiro'; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

I found a fix the the problem.  Charset is set to UTF-8, and I changed it to
us-ascii, and it works great now.

-Rob
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of Rob Jackson
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Mark Sapiro'; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Ok, I got this piece kind of working, but there is a problem with this.

This is my search and replace string, and the search at this point doesn't
matter.

pl = re.sub('lksjdfsdf', 'new text', pl)

Here is the last part of the body, it is all contained in one line:

"You received this e-mail because you are currently subscribed to this
message board alert. To unsubscribe from this alert, or to change your
settings to receive a digest version instead, please visit My Alerts."

After this message goes through mailman, this is how it comes out on the
other side:

jZ;]yay%"hh?hjfzjCj?k-yM:4r^=JjgV'qbsOyDKijljw,&gZ,j
}z?Ox^=by?m+m?y?+.n+a?Oy?zS?&~&jWZ zb
-z+i?zoz"x?v^j??3 %zl

If I add, or remove a letter to the orginal footer, anywhere, or change any
one of the punctuation marks to a letter, it will come through clean, and
not garbled.

I am stumped!







 

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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Mark Sapiro wrote:

>Rob Jackson wrote:
>

>>+pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
>>+re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
>>+msg.set_payload(pl)

>
>It looks OK to me.

Actually, it's not OK. I overlooked the fact that Python strings are
immutable and re.sub doesn't (can't) change them in place. Thus,

re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)

needs to be

pl = re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)

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[Mailman-Users] Radio button options for message size

[Rob Jackson]

I don't want to give the admin the choice to put in any number they want,
instead I want options, like 10k, 20k, 40k, 80k, and so forth.  Right now,
the way mailman is set up, each radio button will represent a placement.  So
right now, 10k will be 0, 20k will be 1, 40k will be 2, 80k will be 3 and so
forth.  Is there a way I can change this?
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] -owner -admin

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That works.  I just made -admin go to owner in the alias file, and it works.
Old users are used to mailing -admin for list problems, and we wanted to
make the transition from our current list to mailman as simple as possible
for the subscribers.

Thanks
-Rob
 

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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:19 PM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] -owner -admin

Rob Jackson wrote:

>I am trying to change the umbrella member suffix to -admin.  I want 
>-admin to do the same thing as -owner.  So I changed it, but there is a 
>problem When I send any messges to -admin, they don't go through.  I 
>get "Uncaught bounce notification"  But I can still send messages to
-owner.
> 
>Why doesn't the -admin work?

Because -admin is a (deprecated) synonym for -bounces, not for -owner.
Why don't you want to use -owner?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe to both list and digest

[Rob Jackson]

They will just lose that function for now, glad to hear it is on the todo
list.

Thanks
-Rob


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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:01 PM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe to both list and digest

Rob Jackson wrote:

>Our current list software enables some users...mostly admins to 
>subscribe to both.  They tend to like that functionality, but I will 
>see if they can do without.

Yes, I can understand the function for the admin. Can they set up forwarding
addresses somewhere?

BTW, the ability to subscribe to both message and digest is on the to do
list <http://www.list.org/todo.html>.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe to both list and digest

[Rob Jackson]

Our current list software enables some users...mostly admins to subscribe to
both.  They tend to like that functionality, but I will see if they can do
without.

Thanks
-Rob
 

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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe to both list and digest

Rob Jackson wrote:

>I need to be able to let users subscribe to both the active list and 
>the digests.  From what I can see, this can't be done.  Anybody have an 
>idea how I can accomplish this?


With current Mailman, you need to subscribe two addresses, maybe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or ??)
would do.

Just for curiousity, why do you need this?.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest subscription without password

[Rob Jackson]

So far I have have got this to work with the -request, but only if I supply
a password.  It wil not work with -subscribe at all for digest mode.  On the
-request, if I supply a password, the user will have the digest bit set.  If
I do not set the password, the digest bit will not be set.

This is not working for me:

>subscribe [$<$PASSWORD$>$] [digest|nodigest] [address=$<$ADDRESS$>$]
>
>* Subscribe to this mailing list. Your password must be given to
unsubscribe or change your options, but if you omit >the password, one will
be generated for you. You may be periodically reminded of your password.
>
>  The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or `digest' (no quotes!).
If you wish to subscribe an address other than the address you sent this
request from, you may specify `address=$<$ADDRESS$>$' (no brackets around
the email address, and no quotes!) 


 

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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Digest subscription without password

It seems somewhat strange that you can subscribe yourself to a list without
a password, but in order to subscribe to a digest you are required to supply
a password.
 
What would be the best way around this?
 
 
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[Mailman-Users] Digest subscription without password

[Rob Jackson]

It seems somewhat strange that you can subscribe yourself to a list without
a password, but in order to subscribe to a digest you are required to supply
a password.
 
What would be the best way around this?
 
 
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[Mailman-Users] Subscribe to both list and digest

[Rob Jackson]

I need to be able to let users subscribe to both the active list and the
digests.  From what I can see, this can't be done.  Anybody have an idea how
I can accomplish this?
 
 
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[Mailman-Users] -owner -admin

[Rob Jackson]

I am trying to change the umbrella member suffix to -admin.  I want -admin
to do the same thing as -owner.  So I changed it, but there is a problem
When I send any messges to -admin, they don't go through.  I get "Uncaught
bounce notification"  But I can still send messages to -owner.  
 
Why doesn't the -admin work?
 
-Rob
 
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[Mailman-Users] need help for all list members to show in To header

[stephen jackson]

Is there a way to have all list members show up in the same To field in an
email sent to a list, instead of just a single individual? One of our
customers is wanting to see all the users that receive a particular message.
Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] need To field in post to list to show all list members

[stephen jackson]

Is there a way for a post to a mailing list to list all list members in the
To field instead of the mailing list name or one individual's name (if Full
Personalization is enabled)? Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

I found a fix the the problem.  Charset is set to UTF-8, and I changed it to
us-ascii, and it works great now.

-Rob
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Rob Jackson
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Mark Sapiro'; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Ok, I got this piece kind of working, but there is a problem with this.

This is my search and replace string, and the search at this point doesn't
matter.

pl = re.sub('lksjdfsdf', 'new text', pl)

Here is the last part of the body, it is all contained in one line:

"You received this e-mail because you are currently subscribed to this
message board alert. To unsubscribe from this alert, or to change your
settings to receive a digest version instead, please visit My Alerts."

After this message goes through mailman, this is how it comes out on the
other side:

jZ;]yay%"hh?hjfzjCj?k-yM:4r^=JjgV'qbsOyDKijljw,&gZ,j
}z?Ox^=by?m+m?y?+.n+a?Oy?zS?&~&jWZ zb
-z+i?zoz"x?v^j??3 %zl

If I add, or remove a letter to the orginal footer, anywhere, or change any
one of the punctuation marks to a letter, it will come through clean, and
not garbled.

I am stumped!







 

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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Mark Sapiro wrote:

>Rob Jackson wrote:
>

>>+pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
>>+re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
>>+msg.set_payload(pl)

>
>It looks OK to me.

Actually, it's not OK. I overlooked the fact that Python strings are
immutable and re.sub doesn't (can't) change them in place. Thus,

re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)

needs to be

pl = re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

Ok, I got this piece kind of working, but there is a problem with this.

This is my search and replace string, and the search at this point doesn't
matter.

pl = re.sub('lksjdfsdf', 'new text', pl)

Here is the last part of the body, it is all contained in one line:

"You received this e-mail because you are currently subscribed to this
message board alert. To unsubscribe from this alert, or to change your
settings to receive a digest version instead, please visit My Alerts."

After this message goes through mailman, this is how it comes out on the
other side:

jZ;]yay%"hh?hjfzjCj?k-yM:4r^=JjgV'qbsOyDKijljw,&gZ,j
}z?Ox^=by?m+m?y?+.n+a?Oy?zS?&~&jWZ zb
-z+i?zoz"x?v^j??3 %zl

If I add, or remove a letter to the orginal footer, anywhere, or change any
one of the punctuation marks to a letter, it will come through clean, and
not garbled.

I am stumped!







 

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To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Mark Sapiro wrote:

>Rob Jackson wrote:
>

>>+pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
>>+re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
>>+msg.set_payload(pl)

>
>It looks OK to me.

Actually, it's not OK. I overlooked the fact that Python strings are
immutable and re.sub doesn't (can't) change them in place. Thus,

re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)

needs to be

pl = re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)

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[Mailman-Users] Automatic Reply To The List

[Jackson Madison]

Good Morning

Is it possible that mailman can have all my users
reply directly to the 
list and not the person that sent the email?

I was checking the website but could not find it. If
someone could 
help me find the instructions on how to accomplish
this that is all I will need.

Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman and Mailing List type

[Jackson Madison]

Hi

1. I want to use mailman on my website that I am
hosting through a company.

I searched through your installation guide and did not
find the 
instructions on how to setup the script, ftp, set
permissions, etc.

2. Can this mailing list be used where users can reply
back to the list 
and not to the person that sent the mail?

I want to set up a discussion type mailing list.

Thanks for help
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

Ok, never mind on the problem with re, I don't know why I couldln't figure
that out before, I just didn't look hard enough.  Although it still doesn't
work.  Here is what I have now.


--- /u1/mailman1/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py   2006-02-24
17:31:06.0 -0700
+++ Decorate.py 2006-05-11 12:14:22.0 -0600
@@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
 from types import ListType
 from email.MIMEText import MIMEText

+import re
 from Mailman import mm_cfg
 from Mailman import Utils
 from Mailman import Errors
@@ -66,6 +67,15 @@
 header = decorate(mlist, mlist.msg_header, 'non-digest header', d)
 footer = decorate(mlist, mlist.msg_footer, 'non-digest footer', d)
 # Escape hatch if both the footer and header are empty
+
+sender = msgdata.get('original_sender', msg.get_sender())
+if sender == '':
+   footer = "THIS IS A GATEWAY MESSAGE"
+
+pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
+re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
+msg.set_payload(pl)
+
 if not header and not footer:
 return



 # Be MIME smart here.  We only attach the header and footer by
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Rob Jackson
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:07 PM
To: 'Mark Sapiro'; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

I was aware of the

if not header and not footer:
return

And made sure that wasn't a problem.  But it seems I was probably exiting
out someplace else.  I used to be getting an error when I had it other
places, and then when I moved it to the end, the error went away, well it is
back now that I am actualy hitting the code before it exits.  Here is my
error.  Thanks for helping out with my ignorance.

"May 11 11:54:49 2006 (11951) Uncaught runner exception: global name 're' is
not defined"

What is the best way to define 're'  I have tried looking at other examples
throught the program and have been unable to determine how I need to do
this.

Thanks
-Rob



-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:46 AM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Rob Jackson wrote:
>
>Here it is.
>
>+++ /u1/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py2006-05-10
>11:36:43.0 -0600
>@@ -188,6 +188,12 @@
> del msg['content-disposition']
> msg['Content-Type'] = 'multipart/mixed'
>
>+#Testing to replace footer
>+pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
>+re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
>+msg.set_payload(pl)
>+
>+
>
> def decorate(mlist, template, what, extradict={}):


Elvis has left the building...

I.e. putting the code there will only get those messages in which the
mailman header/footer has been added as a separate mime part to a message
not already multipart/mixed.

Starting from the top of Decorate.process() we have several exits:

# Escape hatch if both the footer and header are empty
if not header and not footer:
return

If there is no defined msg_header or msg_footer, we leave.


# If we couldn't add the header or footer in a less intrusive way, we
can
# at least do it by MIME encapsulation.  We want to keep as much of the
# outer chrome as possible.
if not wrap:
return

If we have managed to add the header and/or footer to a text/plain message,
or if the message was already multipart/mixed and we added the header and/or
footer as separate mime parts, we are done and leave here.

The only thing that gets beyond here is the case where we create a new
multipart/mixed 'wrapper' with header and/or footer parts and the original
message as a message/rfc822 part.

You first have to see whether or not you have msg_header and or msg_footer
for the list, and also what the structure of the incoming message is. In the
simplest case of a single part text/plain message, you could add the three
lines just prior to

# Escape hatch if both the footer and header are empty
if not header and not footer:
return

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

I was aware of the

if not header and not footer:
return

And made sure that wasn't a problem.  But it seems I was probably exiting
out someplace else.  I used to be getting an error when I had it other
places, and then when I moved it to the end, the error went away, well it is
back now that I am actualy hitting the code before it exits.  Here is my
error.  Thanks for helping out with my ignorance.

"May 11 11:54:49 2006 (11951) Uncaught runner exception: global name 're' is
not defined"

What is the best way to define 're'  I have tried looking at other examples
throught the program and have been unable to determine how I need to do
this.

Thanks
-Rob



-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:46 AM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Rob Jackson wrote:
>
>Here it is.
>
>+++ /u1/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py2006-05-10
>11:36:43.0 -0600
>@@ -188,6 +188,12 @@
> del msg['content-disposition']
> msg['Content-Type'] = 'multipart/mixed'
>
>+#Testing to replace footer
>+pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
>+re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
>+msg.set_payload(pl)
>+
>+
>
> def decorate(mlist, template, what, extradict={}):


Elvis has left the building...

I.e. putting the code there will only get those messages in which the
mailman header/footer has been added as a separate mime part to a message
not already multipart/mixed.

Starting from the top of Decorate.process() we have several exits:

# Escape hatch if both the footer and header are empty
if not header and not footer:
return

If there is no defined msg_header or msg_footer, we leave.


# If we couldn't add the header or footer in a less intrusive way, we
can
# at least do it by MIME encapsulation.  We want to keep as much of the
# outer chrome as possible.
if not wrap:
return

If we have managed to add the header and/or footer to a text/plain message,
or if the message was already multipart/mixed and we added the header and/or
footer as separate mime parts, we are done and leave here.

The only thing that gets beyond here is the case where we create a new
multipart/mixed 'wrapper' with header and/or footer parts and the original
message as a message/rfc822 part.

You first have to see whether or not you have msg_header and or msg_footer
for the list, and also what the structure of the incoming message is. In the
simplest case of a single part text/plain message, you could add the three
lines just prior to

# Escape hatch if both the footer and header are empty
if not header and not footer:
return

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

Sorry about that.  I could be going about this all wrong.  Also, I am fairly
new to python, I normally do perl, so learning how this softwar works has
been just a little difficult.

Here it is.

+++ /u1/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py2006-05-10
11:36:43.0 -0600
@@ -188,6 +188,12 @@
 del msg['content-disposition']
 msg['Content-Type'] = 'multipart/mixed'

+#Testing to replace footer
+pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
+re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
+msg.set_payload(pl)
+
+

 def decorate(mlist, template, what, extradict={}):
 

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From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:42 PM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Rob Jackson wrote:

>This is the diff on the Decorate.py
>
>191,196d190
>< #Testing to replace footer
>< pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
>< re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
>< msg.set_payload(pl)
><
><

Please either give me a unified context diff (diff -u) or at least tell me
what Mailman version this is.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

This is the diff on the Decorate.py  I have also tried putting it other
placed throught the script without success.  There will be an if statement
that will grap the senders e-mail address so this only happens to mail
coming from my global gateway.

191,196d190
< #Testing to replace footer
< pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
< re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
< msg.set_payload(pl)
<
<  

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:27 AM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Rob Jackson wrote:

>Ok, I have been trying to use this in several places without success.  
>I have added to the Decorate.py and even tried to add it to my custom 
>module used for a global incoming gateway.  I replaced the re.sub line
with:
>
>re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)
>
>In the message that I send, I only put AZ in the body of the message.  
>I do not get any errors, but nothing happens to the message.  The AZ 
>does not get replaced.


I need to see more context around what you are doing to understand what's
failing. Something like a 'diff -u' between your modified Decorate.py and
the base.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

Ok, I have been trying to use this in several places without success.  I
have added to the Decorate.py and even tried to add it to my custom module
used for a global incoming gateway.  I replaced the re.sub line with:

re.sub('AZ', 'new text', pl)

In the message that I send, I only put AZ in the body of the message.  I do
not get any errors, but nothing happens to the message.  The AZ does not get
replaced.

Is there something else I need to do to get this working.  I am about to use
procmail to do this, which I really wanted to avoid, as it will add another
step to the process.

-Rob


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From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:20 AM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

>That is the thing, it will be the same everytime.  It is a message 
>automatically generated from a message board, unfortunatly, we are 
>out-sourcing the message board and they are not capable to change the 
>footer on a user level.

You can delete the incoming footer in the same place you add the new one.
You can do something like

pl = msg.get_payload(decode=True)
re.sub(pattern_matching_old_footer, replacement_footer, pl)
msg.set_payload(pl)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

That is the thing, it will be the same everytime.  It is a message
automatically generated from a message board, unfortunatly, we are
out-sourcing the message board and they are not capable to change the footer
on a user level.



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From: Carl Zwanzig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 2:08 PM
To: Rob Jackson
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

In a flurry of recycled electrons, Rob Jackson wrote:
>  Was hoping to use some regular expression and just remove some lines.  
> The lines I need to remove will always be the same.

The problem is that it won't always the the same. As you see below, now the
footer has "> " in front of each line. Another reply from a different MUA
might add a different prefix and wrap a line or two.
There isn't much you can count on here.

FWIW, my initial thought to the question was "user training". 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

 Was hoping to use some regular expression and just remove some lines.  The
lines I need to remove will always be the same.

-Rob


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From: Patrick Bogen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 1:12 PM
To: Rob Jackson
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

On 5/4/06, Rob Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually I just learned that not only do I need to add a footer, I 
> have to remove the current footer of the incoming message.

The logic behind this might be difficult. How to know where the user's
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

Actually I just learned that not only do I need to add a footer, I have to
remove the current footer of the incoming message.  I got custom footer
piece to work now, but now I actually need to edit the body of the message.
What might be the best way of doing this?

-Rob


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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 6:18 PM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

Rob Jackson wrote:

>I need to figure out how to add a footer to an e-mail coming from a
specific
>user.   I just can't seem to figure this out.   I have created a module to
>weed out the address, but now I need to munge the body of the message.


You will need to do several things.

1) set OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes in mm_cfg.py so you can do

2) set the list's personalize option (in Non-digest options) to Yes so you
will be sending separately to each recipient, then

3) see Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py for the current code that adds
personalized headers and footers. You either have to make your changes here
or in Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py in the verpdeliver() function.

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[Mailman-Users] Custom footer based on sender's email

[Rob Jackson]

I need to figure out how to add a footer to an e-mail coming from a specific
user.   I just can't seem to figure this out.   I have created a module to
weed out the address, but now I need to munge the body of the message.
 
-Rob
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Global incoming gateway

[Rob Jackson]

I already have a Message Board set up with a dummy user account, which is
actually the mailing list address.  This user is set to receive ever post to
the message board in e-mail format.  I know I can just add the from: email
address to the list of subscribers, but with many lists, and new lists being
created, I really want it to be a global accept.  I also don't want the list
admins to be able to remove this account from the subcribers.

-Rob
 

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On 4/11/06, Rob Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a message board that I want to integrate with mailman.  
> Messages will be sent from the message board to the list.  I need a global
accept for any
> list to accept messages coming from the message boards.   This setting
also
> needs to be either invisible or not removable from any list.
>

This might get you started:
http://www.mail2forum.com/wiki/Main_Page
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Global incoming gateway

[Rob Jackson]

Messages are sent from the message board real time.  The news gateway is
either set up a a cron to contact the news server to get new messages.

So unless there is something I am missing, I am not sure this will work for
what I need.

-Rob
 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:32 PM
To: Rob Jackson; mailman-users@python.org
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Rob Jackson wrote:

>I have a message board that I want to integrate with mailman.  Messages 
>will be sent from the message board to the list.  I need a global accept
for any
>list to accept messages coming from the message boards.   This setting also
>needs to be either invisible or not removable from any list.


You may be able to build what you want using Mailman's cron/gate_news as a
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[Mailman-Users] Global incoming gateway

[Rob Jackson]

I have a message board that I want to integrate with mailman.  Messages will
be sent from the message board to the list.  I need a global accept for any
list to accept messages coming from the message boards.   This setting also
needs to be either invisible or not removable from any list.
 
Thanks
-Rob
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[Mailman-Users] Multiple virtual domains on apache each with a mailing list.

[Chad Jackson]

I have a need to setup more than one of my virtual hosting customers
with a maillist. I have searched through the FAQ but am unable to find
anything regarding this issue. If I have missed it I would like to be
pointed in the right direction and If not here is my problem.

I have a web server with multiple domains each for a different customer.
At this stage I have one customer with a mailing list, although I have
not started subscribing members until I have this issue resolved. I now
have an additional two sites that wish to have a mailing list service.

The problem is I have configured [EMAIL PROTECTED] and would now like to
create [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I use the url from
abc.com www.abc.com/mailman/listinfo/general and substitute the abc with
def, I still get the abc info for general. I do expect this to happen as
the config files are configured for abc. 

The question is how do I seperate out the lists and domains so that each
customer gets their own list information. Is this possible, and is so is
there a config page where I can egt more info. I am using apache and
postfix for my webserver and mail server. 

any help would be apreciated
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Block domain

[Christopher Jackson]

If I'm not mistaken, ^ in regex means 'start's with' so what you are
saying is anything that starts with domain.com should be dropped.  I
think you want something more like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I could be wrong though...

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> 
> 
> I want to block all mail from a specific domain.  Under 
> Privacy options/sender filters, in the box marked "List of 
> non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically 
> discarded" I put ^domain.com.  This should be a simple 
> regular expression that will always match the domain name, 
> but I still get emails that a posts from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> needs authorization, and I have to go in and delete it.  Why 
> doesn't this work, and what does work?
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[Mailman-Users] HTML messages in list archives

[Christopher Jackson]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but my searches have not turned up the 
appropriate results.

My users send HTML formatted mail from Microsoft Outlook XP SP-2 clients.  Content 
filtering is off since enabling it prevents messages from being delivered at all; 
however, when looking at the mailing list archive the message is stripped to the point 
of being useless.

For example, if I send a simple HTML formatted text message with the subject "Testing 
(post1)" and the body text as just my signature block (as shown in this message after 
the "--") all is good.

As soon as the HTML message gets more complicated (e.g. contains images, text 
formatting using HTML tags, etc.) the following is returned in the archive:

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part --
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 1241 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : 
http://mailman.avaki.com/pipermail/mailman/attachments/20031217/131436d3/attachment.jpg

I don't see any notice of discard in /usr/local/mailman/logs/vette and the message is 
delivered to list members.  Is there anyway to have all parts of the message converted 
to plain text?  My mm_cfg.py is as follows:

DEFAULT_URL = 'http://mailman.avaki.com/mailman/'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST= 'mailman.avaki.com'
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'avaki.com'
SMTPHOST = 'bastion01.avaki.com'
SMTPPORT = 25
MAILMAN_OWNER = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
DEFAULT_ARCHIVE = On
DEFAULT_ARCHIVE_PRIVATE = 1
ARCHIVE_SCRUBBER = 'Mailman.Handlers.Scrubber'
ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 3
USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = No
DEFAULT_SUBJECT_PREFIX  = "[%(real_name)s] "
DEFAULT_MSG_HEADER = ""
DEFAULT_MSG_FOOTER = ""
SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 800



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[Mailman-Users] Loop with spoof

[Simon L. Jackson]

Dear Mailmaners,

I recently found a loop when (I think) someone sent an email with a spoofed 
from/reply-to address.

This appeared to be achieved by sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

We are using Postfix, and have the following Mailman aliases and virtual 
addresses set up:

Aliases:
somelist-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces somelist"
Virtual:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] somelist-bounces
In the end I turned off 'Send mail to poster when their posting is held for 
approval' and deleted the offending files from the 
/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out directory.

My questions are:

1. Is this loop an error in my configuration or a bug or oversight in mailman?

2. Is there a way of getting a list of messages in transit and if necessary 
deleting them. This mail had not yet arrived at the pending requests stage.

Cheers

Simon L. Jackson
Corpita Pty Ltd
Level 1
112 Sackville St
Collingwood VIC 3066
Australia
phone: +61 3 9411 4470
direct: +61 3 9411 4419
fax: +61 3 9411 4499
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[Mailman-Users] Loop with spoof

[Simon L. Jackson]

Dear Mailmaners,

I recently found a loop when (I think) someone sent an email with a spoofed 
from/reply-to address.

This appeared to be achieved by sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

We are using Postfix, and have the following Mailman aliases and virtual 
addresses set up:

Aliases:
somelist-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces somelist"
Virtual:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] somelist-bounces
In the end I turned off 'Send mail to poster when their posting is held for 
approval' and deleted the offending files from the 
/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out directory.

My questions are:

1. Is this loop an error in my configuration or a bug or oversight in mailman?

2. Is there a way of getting a list of messages in transit and if necessary 
deleting them. This mail had not yet arrived at the pending requests stage.

Cheers

Simon L. Jackson
Corpita Pty Ltd
Level 1
112 Sackville St
Collingwood VIC 3066
Australia
phone: +61 3 9411 4470
direct: +61 3 9411 4419
fax: +61 3 9411 4499
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[Mailman-Users] New maillist for RTL-handoff

[Delia Jackson]

Hi - I'd like to set up a new mailman for the group involved in RTL Handoff - how is this done?

http://spacedog.fishkill.ibm.com/mailman/listinfo/

Delia Jackson
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Essex Junction, Vermont
05452  U.S.A.

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[Mailman-Users] Mail looping between two mailman lists' request addresses

[Ian Jackson]

It looks like a spammer sent a mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  In any case, the result
was each -request bot mailing the other repeatedly with error
messages.

How should I prevent this from recurring ?

(I posted a similar message yesterday but it got caught by the 40K
maximum message size limit and the moderator doesn't seem to have
approved it.  Last time I just deleted the offending messages but now
it's happened again, so for the moment I've installed an Exim system
filter to catch mails from -request to -request addresses.)

Ian.


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This is an automated response.

There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via
the administrative address
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "help" in
the subject line or in the body of the message.

If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
please send your message to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

The following is a detailed description of the problems.

> Subject line ignored:
>   Mailman results for adns-discuss
Command? This is an automated response.
Command? There were problems with the email commands you sent to Ma...
Command? the administrative address
Command? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> 
> Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored:
> 
> To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "help" in
> the subject line or in the body of the message.
> 
> If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
> please send your message to
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> 
> The following is a detailed description of the problems.
> 
> > Subject line ignored:
> >   Mailman results for adns-announce
> Command? This is an automated response.
> Command? There were problems with the email commands you sent to Ma...
> Command? the administrative address
> Command? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > 
> > Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored:
> > 
> > To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "help" in
> > the subject line or in the body of the message.
> > 
> > If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
> > please send your message to
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > 
> > The following is a detailed description of the problems.
> > 
> > > Subject line ignored:
> > >   Mailman results for adns-discuss
> > Command? This is an automated response.
> > Command? There were problems with the email commands you sent to Ma...
> > Command? the administrative address
> > Command? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > > 
> > > Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored:
> > > 
> > > To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "help" in
> > > the subject line or in the body of the message.
> > > 
> > > If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
> > > please send your message to
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > > 
> > > The following is a detailed description of the problems.
> > > 
> > > > Subject line ignored:
> > > >   Mailman results for adns-announce
> > > Command? This is an automated response.
> > > Command? There were problems with the email commands you sent to Ma...
> > > Command? the administrative address
> > > Command? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > > > 
> > > > Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored:
> > > > 
> > > > To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "help" in
> > > > the subject line or in the body of the message.
> > > > 
> > > > If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
> > > > please send your message to
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > > > 
> > > > The following is a detailed description of the problems.
> > > > 
> > > > > Subject line ignored:
> > > > >   Mailman results for adns-discuss
> > > > Command? This is an automated response.
> > > > Command? There were problems with the email commands you sent to Ma...
> > > > Command? the administrative address
> > > > Command? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored:
> > > > > 
> > > > > To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
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> > > > > the subject line or in the body of the message.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
> > > > > please send your message to
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> > > > > 
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> > > > > Command

[Mailman-Users] Multiple configurations

[Simon L. Jackson]

Dear Mailman Users,

I have multiple web sites for multiple domains hosted on one of our servers.

I would like to allow multiple mailing lists per domain managed through one 
or more of the web sites which belong to that domain.

But, I would prefer not to see the mailing lists associated with other 
domains from a given domain.

Another way of putting this might be that I want to introduce an additional 
layer into the site .. list hierarchy.

I note that some Mailman documentation refers to a virtual hosts feature. 
As far as I can see this is for mailing and various labelling features 
rather than collecting mailing lists.

Am I missing something?

Has anyone else tried to achieve this end?

Should this go on the wish list?

Cheers,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: suEXEC & Mailman

[Ian Jackson]

Kyrian writes ("[Mailman-Users] Re: suEXEC & Mailman"):
> Because I was using suexec to run mailman's CGI's, and not running the
> entire webserver as the required UID/GID, they were failing with (500?)
> Server Errors, and not putting anything into the standard httpd error
> log files.
...
> All of which require recompilation of the suexec binary,
...
> Anyway, to Tauren's specific idea... I don't think it's exactly possible
> without having a full, custom-compiled mailman implementation, set up to
> run as the same UID as the client's virtual hosts already run under.
...
> Alternatively, you could (although this would mean mailman still runs as
> mailman:mailman, but it would work) compile up some wrapper executables
> for all of the mailman CGI's which are suid to mailman:mailman, within
> the virtual host for each of your clients, and put them in each client's
> cgi directories.

At this point I think I should plug GNU userv (pron. `you-serve')
It is, according to the documentation:
 a Unix system facility to allow one program to invoke another
 when only limited trust exists between them.

One of the things it's good for is avoiding having to compile up
setuid wrapper programs (and get all the resulting security problems).
You could almost certainly use it to solve your problem above, with
just a simple bit of configuration in /etc/userv.

It's GPL'd and available from GNU mirrors, or from my website at
 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/userv/ 

Disclaimer: I've not tried applying userv to Mailman's security
situation.  I've been wanting to ditch the setuid wrapper that comes
with the Debian install that I've been using, but haven't had time to
sort it out.

Ian.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search utility

[Donna Jackson]

Thanks for the reply.  I'll investigate these other solutions.

Donna

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From: J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Search utility 


> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:31:26 -0400 
> Donna Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Does mailman come with a search utility that has a web-interface.
> 
> No.  Common solutions are to bolt MNoGoSearch (was UdmSerch),
> HT::Dig, or Swish-E on the side.
> 
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[Mailman-Users] Search utility

[Donna Jackson]

Does mailman come with a search utility that has a web-interface.

Thanks,
Donna

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