Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting implicit destinattion even though To: field is correct

[Aaron Smith]

*FacePalm*  Well...that's embarrassing.  You are, of course, completely right.  
I forgot to put the actual To: header in there.
Nothing to see here folks.move along...move along


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[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+aaron.smith=kzoo@python.org] On Behalf Of 
Robert Heller
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:39 PM
To: Mark Sapiro 
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting implicit destinattion even though To: 
field is correct

At Sat, 22 Apr 2017 10:23:59 -0700 Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> 
> On 04/21/2017 12:15 PM, Aaron Smith wrote:
> > ... However, if I send a message to
> > testl...@mail01.example.com, it
> > is moderated for implicit destination.  Every single time.  And I 
> > KNOW that the To: field has the correct email address because I'm 
> > typing it in myself during a telnet session to port 25!  What am I 
> > missing here?
> 
> 
> The addresses in any To:, Cc:, Resent-To: or Resent-Cc: headers are 
> lower cased and if the local part of any of these matches the list's 
> internal name (which should be the lower case list name, i.e. the 
> list's real_name attribute lower cased), you should not get an 
> implicit destination hold.
> 
> I.e., if the list's internal name it 'testlist' and the To: header 
> contains the address testlist@... in any combination of upper/lower 
> case, the message should not be held for implicit destination.
> 
> When the message is held for implicit destination, look at the Message
> Headers: in the held message view in the list's admindb interface. Do 
> they have the To: header you expect?

Since the OP is using a "telnet session to port 25" I wonder if he is confusing 
an *envelope header" with a message header.

If in the "telnet session to port 25" he is typing:

RCPT To testl...@mail01.example.com

And *failing* to include in the DATA section a line like:

To: testl...@mail01.example.com

Even though the RCPT To is correct, *mailman* still needs the
"To: testl...@mail01.example.com" *in the message itself* (in the header in the 
DATA part).

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[Mailman-Users] Getting implicit destinattion even though To: field is correct

[Aaron Smith]

I just installed mailman 2.1.20 using the Ubuntu provided 
package for 16.04.
I'm setting this up as a replacement for an older mailman server.  Right now, 
the lists are just using the machine name for the addresses, but whenever I 
send a message to a list address, it gets held for moderator approval, claiming 
it has an "implicit destination".  The server name is (not really) 
mail01.example.com.  mm_cfg.py has DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST of "mail01.example.com", 
and I set up the necessary configuration to have the aliases generated 
(MTA=POSTFIX) and commented out the postfix_to_mailman.ph transport line in 
postfix.  However, if I send a message to 
testl...@mail01.example.com, it is 
moderated for implicit destination.  Every single time.  And I KNOW that the 
To: field has the correct email address because I'm typing it in myself during 
a telnet session to port 25!  What am I  missing here?

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[Mailman-Users] MySQL

[Aaron Dolgin]

Is it possible to have mailman store the email addresses in a database in
MySQL?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Storing email address in MySQL

[Aaron Dolgin]

my hosting provider has mailman preinstalled. am i suppose to have access
to those files since mailman is open source?



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On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 09/09/2013 09:10 AM, Aaron Dolgin wrote:
> > Is it possible to have mailman store the email addresses it sends mail to
> > in a database such as MySQL?
>
>
> See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/VIDt>.
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[Mailman-Users] Storing email address in MySQL

[Aaron Dolgin]

Is it possible to have mailman store the email addresses it sends mail to
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail to list delivers into a local mailbox instead of the list

[Ron Aaron]

After following all your directions, I have a working mailman system, THANK 
YOU!!

Best regards,
Ron


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail to list delivers into a local mailbox instead of the list

[Ron Aaron]

> It may have something to do with passing through spamassassin, but I
> don't think so because queue id 5C9BB541603 is the message after
> spamassassin and it notes orig_to=. However, I'm not
> sure why the message is handled by Postfix's pipe module. That seems odd.

Right.  I've also noticed that I cannot seem to get clamsmtpd hooked in; at 
least, it never tries to use it.  But that's a different problem...

> If you post the output of postconf -n, we may be able to help further.

Here goes.  I'm not sure if I mentioned that this is an "ispconfig3" based 
setup, don't know if that makes a difference (but it may).  Output of postconf 
-n follows:

alias_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
allow_mail_to_files = alias,forward,include
body_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/body_checks
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter = scan:127.0.0.1:10025
header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks
inet_interfaces = all
mailbox_size_limit = 0
message_size_limit = 0
mime_header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/mime_header_checks
mydestination = 
myhostname = my.dom
nested_header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/nested_header_checks
owner_request_special = no
proxy_read_maps = $local_recipient_maps $mydestination $virtual_alias_maps 
$virtual_alias_domains $virtual_mailbox_maps $virtual_mailbox_domains 
$relay_recipient_maps $relay_domains $canonical_maps $sender_canonical_maps 
$recipient_canonical_maps $relocated_maps $transport_maps $mynetworks 
$virtual_mailbox_limit_maps
receive_override_options = no_address_mappings
recipient_delimiter = +
relay_recipient_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_relayrecipientmaps.cf, 
hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
relayhost = [myisp.smtp.host]
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtpd_client_restrictions = check_client_access mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-
virtual_client.cf
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = 
permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_sender_restrictions = check_sender_access mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-
virtual_sender.cf
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem
smtpd_tls_auth_only = no
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.crt
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.key
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1
smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
smtpd_use_tls = yes
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
transport_maps = hash:/etc/mailman/transport, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-
virtual_transports.cf
virtual_alias_domains = lists.my.dom
virtual_alias_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-
virtual_relayrecipientmaps.cf ,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf 
,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-
virtual_email2email.cf,hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-
mailman,hash:/etc/aliases
virtual_gid_maps = static:5000
virtual_mailbox_base = /var/vmail
virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_domains.cf
virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_mailboxes.cf
virtual_transport = maildrop
virtual_uid_maps = static:5000


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail to list delivers into a local mailbox instead of the list

[Ron Aaron]

You wrote:

> Which indicates Postfix is not seeing that mail to lists.my.dom is
> using the mailman transport.

Right.

> Have you added hash:/etc/mailman/transport to transport_maps in
> main.cf? have you run "postmap /etc/mailman/transport" to update
> /etc/mailman/transport.db?

Yes I have, and I restarted mailman and postfix.

> Those have no effect on postfix_to_mailman.py delivery. You should have
> MTA = None.

OK, done.

> postfix_to_mailman.py is a third party module officially unsupported by
> the GNU Mailman project. Maybe if everyone who had problems making
> their Debian/Ubuntu installation work with postfix_to_mailman.py went
> to Debian for support instead of coming here, Debian wold fix the
> package or improve the documentation or whatever is necessary to avoid
> these problems.

  Sorry; I had no idea of this, I'm just trying to get the system to work 
with mailman.  Obviously it is possible, and if I can get it done I'll be 
happy to contribute documentation.

After re-setting things as you mentioned above, and restarting the daemons, I 
sent an email to my test list.  Here is the relevant mail.log:

postfix/smtpd[16482]: connect from unknown[192.168.18.100]
postfix/smtpd[16482]: setting up TLS connection from unknown[192.168.18.100]
postfix/smtpd[16482]: Anonymous TLS connection established from 
unknown[192.168.18.100]: TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)


postfix/smtpd[16482]: C73305415EF: client=unknown[192.168.18.100], 
sasl_method=PLAIN, sasl_username=r...@my.dom

 
postfix/cleanup[16486]: C73305415EF: message-id=<201102040841.26293@my.dom>
postfix/qmgr[16475]: C73305415EF: from=, size=691, nrcpt=1 (queue 
active)
spamd[5057]: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] at port 33232
spamd[5057]: spamd: setuid to vmail succeeded
spamd[5057]: spamd: processing message <201102040841.26293@my.dom> for 
vmail:5000
spamd[5057]: spamd: clean message (-1.0/5.0) for vmail:5000 in 3.3 seconds, 
673 bytes.
spamd[5057]: spamd: result: . -1 - ALL_TRUSTED 
scantime=3.3,size=673,user=vmail,uid=5000,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=33232,mid=<201102040841.26293@my.dom>,autolearn=ham
postfix/pickup[16474]: 5C9BB541603: uid=5000 from=
postfix/pipe[16487]: C73305415EF: to=, relay=spamassassin, 
delay=3.6, delays=0.19/0.01/0/3.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via 
spamassassin service)
postfix/qmgr[16475]: C73305415EF: removed
postfix/cleanup[16486]: 5C9BB541603: message-id=<201102040841.26293@my.dom>
spamd[5056]: prefork: child states: II
postfix/qmgr[16475]: 5C9BB541603: from=, size=981, nrcpt=1 (queue 
active)
postfix/pipe[16492]: 5C9BB541603: to=, 
orig_to=, relay=maildrop, delay=0.32, 
delays=0.2/0.01/0/0.12, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via maildrop 
service)
postfix/qmgr[16475]: 5C9BB541603: removed
postfix/smtpd[16482]: disconnect from unknown[192.168.18.100]


Note that lists.my.dom seems to get mapped to just my.dom and no mention of 
mailman appears here (I assume I would see some mailman logging going on 
here).  The /var/log/mailman/qrunner log only shows it was restart.

So the question is why would postfix not be passing the connection on to 
mailman?  Is there another 'transport' key I should use, perhaps, or maybe one 
of the 'filter' keys?


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[Mailman-Users] Mail to list delivers into a local mailbox instead of the list

[Ron Aaron]

I've got an "ispconfig3" based Ubuntu 10.10 server installation, running 
postfix.  The mail server works perfectly.


I wish to add mailman to the setup, and am hitting a brick wall.  I've looked 
all over for clues, but no luck so far.


I created a new domain "lists.my.dom", where the "my.dom" is the actual doman.  
In postfix "main.cf"  I added a special "/etc/mailman/transport" which has the 
single line:


 lists.my.dom   mailman:


The default setup of master.cf already has an appropriate mailman line in it.


I also have the "recipient_delimiter", "owner_request_special" and 
"mailman_destination_recipient_limit" set as per the FAQs I've read.  I also 
have "virtual_alias_domains" set to lists.my.dom, because without it postfix 
doesn't seem to recognize mail to that domain.


I've got mm_cfg.py set for POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS , and have tried both 
MTA=None and MTA-Postfix to no avail.


What happens is that incoming mail for say, 't...@lists.my.dom' is accepted, 
and eventually gets sent by postfix t' t...@my.dom', which ends up being just 
another virtual user.  Of course, that's not what I need to happen.


Anybody have a clue for me?


Thank you very much,
Ron




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Crashes Regularly

[Aaron Kreider]

On 11/10/2010 7:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Aaron Kreider quoted me and wrote:

Why do you have
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/mailman/extend.py which
imports MysqlMemberships? As far as I know, this is not something that
cPanel Mailman does by default?

I'm using the mailman mysql adaptor so the members are stored in mysql

The Python MySQLdb package is not installed on your server in a way
that it is usable by Mailman.


Well something is writing data into the mysql table where we store 
mailman data (and it isn't me).  I've got my last time stamp on Nov 2.  
So it must be at least semi-usable.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Crashes Regularly

[Aaron Kreider]

Our last mailman crash was at 11:47pm on Nov 7.  Here is the qrunner log:

I looked at our vps to see if we were hitting any resource limits, but I 
haven't found any problems.


Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23778) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  
Stopping.
Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23771) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  
Stopping.

Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23778) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23771) CommandRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23776) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  
Stopping.

Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23744) Master watcher caught SIGTERM.  Exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23777) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23779) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23776) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23777) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23744) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 23771, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23744) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 23778, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23779) VirginRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23744) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 23777, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23780) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23770) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 07 23:47:30 2010 (23767) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23780) RetryRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23767) ArchRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23744) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 23776, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23744) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 23779, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23770) BounceRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23744) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 23767, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23744) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 23780, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 07 23:47:31 2010 (23744) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 23770, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 07 23:49:12 2010 (28002) ArchRunner qrunner started.
Nov 07 23:49:12 2010 (28007) NewsRunner qrunner started.
Nov 07 23:49:12 2010 (28005) IncomingRunner qrunner started.
Nov 07 23:49:12 2010 (28010) VirginRunner qrunner started.
Nov 07 23:49:12 2010 (28011) RetryRunner qrunner started.
Nov 07 23:49:12 2010 (28004) CommandRunner qrunner started.
Nov 07 23:49:12 2010 (28003) BounceRunner qrunner started.
Nov 07 23:49:13 2010 (28009) OutgoingRunner qrunner started.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28002) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28002) ArchRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (27975) Master watcher caught SIGTERM.  Exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28003) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28007) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28007) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28005) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  
Stopping.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28009) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  
Stopping.

Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28005) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28009) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28010) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28010) VirginRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28004) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  
Stopping.

Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28004) CommandRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28011) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28011) RetryRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (28003) BounceRunner qrunner exiting.
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (27975) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 28002, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (27975) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 28004, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (27975) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 28005, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (27975) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 28009, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (27975) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 28010, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (27975) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 28011, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1)
Nov 08 00:32:15 2010 (27975) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 28007, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1

[Mailman-Users] Problem with accept_these_nonmembers using another list in installation

[Aaron Ray]

Version 2.1.13

I am having some trouble getting the accept_these_nonmembers filter to work
when using another list as the value (eg @test or @all). I have searched
through the mailman-user mailing list, but I can't seem to find a solution.
One of the threads mentioned something about USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER being set
in the mm_cfg.py. I am not hosting this site myself, and I only
administrative interface is through cPanel. So I am not sure how to verify
this setting without opening the file (which I don't have access to). The
sender filter appears to work when I do explicit e-mail addresses, but not
when I try to filter on other lists in the installation. I would like to use
the list option since it is more dynamic. My list architecture is
essentially like this:

-...@domain
-pare...@domain
-ment...@domain
-stude...@domain

The a...@domain list contains every e-mail from the other 3 lists. So I am
adding the a...@domain mailing list to the other mailing list's
accept_these_nonmembers sender filter with the following syntax:

@all

I have also tried:

@a...@domain

Neither of them seem to work. I appreciate any advice/help anyone can offer.

Sincerely,
Aaron Ray
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Crashes Regularly

[Aaron Kreider]

 I'm getting regular mailman crashes every 2-4 weeks.  I've had 4 so 
far.  I'm running a centos VPS with mailman 2.1.13.


What is the best way to restart mailman?  I've been restarting the 
entire vps, which obviously is a bad idea.  What can I do to prevent 
this from happening?


Here is the error log entries from when it crashed:





Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19680): No child with pid: 3683
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19680): [Errno 3] No such process
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19680): Stale pid file removed.
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694): Traceback (most recent call last):
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 548, in ?

Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  main()
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 367, in main

Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  check_for_site_list()
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 277, in 
check_for_site_list
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  sitelist = 
MailList(sitelistname, lock=0)
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 115, in 
__init__

Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  execfile(filename, dict)
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/mailman/extend.py", line 5, in ?
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  from 
Mailman.MysqlMemberships import MysqlMemberships
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py", line 
49, in ?

Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  import MySQLdb
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/MySQLdb/__init__.py", line 19, in ?
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/_mysql.py", line 7, in ?
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/_mysql.py", line 4, in __bootstrap__
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c12dev_r80622-py2.4.egg/pkg_resources.py", 
line 881, in resource_filename
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  return 
get_provider(package_or_requirement).get_resource_filename(
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c12dev_r80622-py2.4.egg/pkg_resources.py", 
line 1351, in get_resource_filename
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  
self._extract_resource(manager, self._eager_to_zip(name))
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c12dev_r80622-py2.4.egg/pkg_resources.py", 
line 1372, in _extract_resource
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  real_path = 
manager.get_cache_path(
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c12dev_r80622-py2.4.egg/pkg_resources.py", 
line 962, in get_cache_path

Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  self.extraction_error()
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c12dev_r80622-py2.4.egg/pkg_resources.py", 
line 928, in extraction_error

Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):  raise err
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694): pkg_resources . ExtractionError 
:  Can't extract file(s) to egg cache


The following error occurred while trying to extract file(s) to the 
Python egg

cache:

  [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/root/.python-eggs'

The Python egg cache directory is currently set to:

  /root/.python-eggs

Perhaps your account does not have write access to this directory?  You can
change the cache directory by setting the PYTHON_EGG_CACHE environment
variable to point to an accessible directory.
Oct 13 01:30:23 2010 mailmanctl(19694):
Oct 13 01:31:11 2010 mailmanctl(22029): PID unreadable in: 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid
Oct 13 01:31:11 2010 mailmanctl(22029): [Errno 2] No such file or 
directory: '/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid'

Oct 13 01:31:11 2010 mailmanctl(22029): Is qrunner even running?
Oct 13 01:31:14 2010 mailmanctl(22123): Traceback (most recent call last):
Oct 13 01:31:14 2010 mailmanctl(22123):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 548, in ?

Oct 13 01:31:14 2010 mailmanctl(22123):  main()
Oct 13 01:31:14 2010 mailmanctl(22123):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 367, in main

Oct 13 01:31:14 2010 mailmanctl(22123):  check_for_site_list()
Oct 13 01:31:14 2010 mailmanctl(22123):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 277, in 
check_for_site_list
Oct 13 01:31:14 2010 mailmanctl(22123):  sitelist = 
MailList(sitelistname, lock=0)
Oct 13 01:31:14 2010 mailmanctl(22123): 

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Postfix + Virtual Maps = initial mailmanlist works but new lists don't

[Aaron Couch]

hi Mark:

thanks so much for your quick and careful reply. i'm looking forward to
trying to work with your suggestions next weekend.

-AC

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> Aaron Couch wrote:
> >
> >*what doesn't work:*
> >any lists added after the inital 'mailman' list fails. it is added through
> >the web interface and added to the alias and virtual mailman files. the
> new
> >users get the "you've been added email". however any emails sent to that
> >list, let's call it pleasew...@mydomain.org, fail.
> >
> >*the logs:*
> >here is what the mail.log file says for emails that fail to
> >pleasew...@mydomain.org:
> >
> >May 29 20:13:44 servername postfix/virtual[12598]: 4936C5CB9F: to=<
> >pleasew...@mydomain.org>, relay=virtual, delay=888,
> delays=888/0.05/0/0.01,
> >dsn=4.1.1, status=SOFTBOUNCE (unknown user: "pleasew...@mydomain.org")
>
>
> relay=virtual is a problem. It suggests that mydomain.org is a
> virtual_mailbox_domain, not a virtual_alias_domain.
>
>
> >here is a successful log message to mailm...@mydomain.org:
> >
> >May 30 16:15:15 servername postfix/pipe[31452]: 51F265CBCB: to=<
> >mail...@lists.mydomain.org>, orig_to=,
> relay=mailman,
> >delay=0.66, delays=0.25/0.01/0/0.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via
> >mailman service)
>
>
> This says the mail...@lists.mydomain.org mail is delivered via the
> Debian/Ubuntu postfix_to_mailman.py mailman service. This does not use
> aliases or virtual_mailman at all but requires dedicated list domains
> such as lists.mydomain.org. I.e. every domain which has Mailman lists
> needs an entry like
>
> lists.example.com   mailman:
>
> in /etc/postfix/transport or where ever the Postfix transport_maps are.
>
> This also complicates delivery to any addresses in the domain which
> aren't Mailman list addresses.
>
>
> >*uninformed analysis:*
> >it seems like the mailman-virtual map isn't working. i've tried changing
> the
> >permissions in the mailmain-virtual file in case that was an issue but to
> no
> >avail. again the 'pleasework' list does show up in it and the alias file
> as
> [...]
> >
> >I have had a hickup when trying to regenerate the alias files. The
> >bin/genaliases file had the following errors:
> >
> >Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "bin/genaliases", line 116, in 
> >main()
> >  File "bin/genaliases", line 83, in main
> >modulename = 'Mailman.MTA.' + mm_cfg.MTA
> >TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects
> >
> >In my mm_cfg I had MTA=None which is recommended when using the
> >'/usr/share/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py'. I tried changing it to MTA=""
> >but still got an error. It succeeded when I just removed the MTA variable.
>
>
> MTA = None says mailman doesn't generate aliases at all, thus you
> aren't expected to be running bin/genaliases if MTA = None.
>
> I suppose this is a bug in genaliases. It should instead just scold you
> for trying to generate aliases when you have configured it not to.
>
>
> Removing MTA = None from mm_cfg.py allows the default MTA = 'Manual' to
> take effect which should cause genaliases to just print the aliases.
>
> How are aliases and virtual-mailman being generated? That requires MTA
> = 'Postfix'.
>
>
> >It says to add the list info to the /etc/aliases file and use the
> newaliases
> >command but in my main.cf file I have the mailman aliases file added to
> the
> >alias_maps variable (see below) so I would think that shouldn't be an
> issue.
>
>
> It says that because MTA = 'Manual' (from Defaults.py)
>
>
> >*my setup:*
> >
> >mm_cfg.py file:
> >MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman'
> >DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
> >PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/cgi-bin/mailman/private'
>
>
> Unless this is some Debian/Ubuntu specific thing, there is no
> PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL setting.
>
>
> >IMAGE_LOGOS = '/images/mailman/'
> >DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.org'
> >DEB_LISTMASTER = 'listmas...@mydomain.org'
> >DEFAULT_URL_HOST   = 'lists.mydomain.org'
> >add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> >add_virtualhost('lists.mediamobilizingproject.org', '
> >lists.mediamobilizingproject.org')
> >DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en'
> >USE_ENVELOP

[Mailman-Users] Mailman + Postfix + Virtual Maps = initial mailman list works but new lists don't

[Aaron Couch]

h_pipelining,
permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes
smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname
smtpd_sasl_path = private/dovecot-auth
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_unknown_sender_domain
smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-mail.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/ssl-mail.key
smtpd_tls_mandatory_ciphers = medium, high
smtpd_tls_mandatory_protocols = SSLv3, TLSv1
smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtpd_use_tls = yes
soft_bounce = yes
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
unknown_address_reject_code = 554
unknown_client_reject_code = 554
unknown_hostname_reject_code = 554
virtual_alias_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/my_alias_maps.cf,
hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
virtual_gid_maps = static:8
virtual_mailbox_base = /var/vmail
virtual_mailbox_domains = mydomain.org
virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/my_mailbox_maps.cf
virtual_minimum_uid = 150
virtual_transport = virtual
virtual_uid_maps = static:150


Thanks for any assistance you can offer!

best,

-Aaron
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help! "Stuck Messages"

[Aaron Marcavitch]

And that - ladies and gentlemen - did it.  Nothing like a quick hit to the side 
of a machine to make it act right.

Aaron


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--- On Wed, 5/27/09, John  wrote:

> From: John 
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help! "Stuck Messages"
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 12:07 PM
> I have a similar problem... I use a
> Virtual Dedicated server to host several
> domains with a number of Mailman lists on them. Every so
> often the traffic on
> the Mailman lists drops to a trickle or stops. Bounce
> volume and regular email
> is usually unaffected. I've given up trying to debug it, I
> just reboot the
> server and the flood-gates open. Sometimes the easiest
> solution/work-around is
> brute force...  :-/
> 
> John
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help! "Stuck Messages"

[Aaron Marcavitch]

Sorry - I know I am explaining it badly.

It may be that there is a fallacy here - and I am trying to make a connection 
that isn't there.

Lets focus on the primary problem. I have personally sent emails to the system 
and I know others have as well - but there are none that are in the admin 
approval section of the web interface.  They last time I approved any emails 
was 14 days ago - even though many have been sent there.

The only reason I can figure out that these messages are not coming up from 
approval is because I deleted several emails.  I went ahead and deleted them 
becausewell, because I'm new with Mailman and didn't know that they would 
be deleted after a while

I have now turned off emergency moderation to see if that does anything.

I just dont know if there is some setting that is causing these emails to not 
come throughI would be glad to have some expert out there help us out to 
look over our settings.

Our Mailman installation is on Jumpline.com

Aaron
Vernacular Architecture Forum E-List Manager


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--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> From: Mark Sapiro 
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help! "Stuck Messages"
> To: "Aaron Marcavitch" , mailman-users@python.org
> Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:56 AM
> Aaron Marcavitch wrote:
> >
> >We have a list of about 600.  I have been working
> hard to delete our bouncing members.  However, when I
> do a BIG delete session, no messages show up in the
> "approval" section.
> 
> 
> I don't understand. First of all, why not just let
> Mailman's bounce
> processing take care of removing bouncing members?
> 
> But, in any case, removing members should have nothing to
> do with
> message approval, so I don't understand what the problem
> is. Can you
> give more specific detail?
> 
> 
> >I have the list on emergency moderation because we were
> having problems adjusting to our switch over from our old
> system.  When I didn't delete emails for a few days it
> worked fine.  Now its going on 12 days since our last
> email showed up for my approval.
> 
> 
> If you mean there are no messages in the admindb interface,
> then
> perhaps there have been no posts.
> 
> If you mean you haven't been getting notices of messages as
> they are
> held, this is expected. Individual notices are not sent
> for
> 'emergency' holds.
> 
> 
> >I know I am doing something wrong - I just can't figure
> out what
> 
> 
> Nor can I from the information you provided. Please try to
> provide more
> specific detail about the actual problem, although it seems
> that this
> may be something that will have to be addressed by the
> admins of the
> Mailman installation.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro  
>       The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use
> your sense - B. Dylan
> 
> 


  
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[Mailman-Users] Help! "Stuck Messages"

[Aaron Marcavitch]

Hi folks,

Brand new here.  I have reviewed the troubleshooting and I think I am just not 
sophisticated to understand the answers.  

We have a list of about 600.  I have been working hard to delete our bouncing 
members.  However, when I do a BIG delete session, no messages show up in the 
"approval" section.  I have the list on emergency moderation because we were 
having problems adjusting to our switch over from our old system.  When I 
didn't delete emails for a few days it worked fine.  Now its going on 12 days 
since our last email showed up for my approval.

I know I am doing something wrong - I just can't figure out what

I did try to find this answer and I kept on running up on VERP and MTA - but I 
have NO idea what that means.  I am only using the web interface for approval, 
so I am very unsophisticated about how this works

Thanks in advance for advice.
Aaron


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing Attachments

[Aaron Gray]

> Aaron Gray wrote:
>>Hi, a mailman newbie here :)
>>
>>Before installing MailMan I want to know if there is an admin option 
>>for either disallowing attachments, ie removing them or bouncing 
>>messages if they have an attachment.
>>
>>Many thanks in advance,
>  End original message. -
> 
> You have several options on what to do with attachments. You can have 
> them completely stripped (which is what I do on my lists), leave them 
> alone or have them "scrubbed".
> 
> Scrubbing is where the attachment is removed from the message and 
> stored in the list archive while an URL is added to the list post 
> pointing to the file.
> 
> All of this is controllable by file type, if you desired it, you can 
> allow or scrub some types of attachments while disallowing all others.

Nice, very nice, thanks,

Aaron

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[Mailman-Users] Preventing Attachments

[Aaron Gray]

Hi, a mailman newbie here :)

Before installing MailMan I want to know if there is an admin option for either 
disallowing attachments, ie removing them or bouncing messages if they have an 
attachment.

Many thanks in advance,

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[Mailman-Users] Problems after changing server network setup

[Aaron Crosman]

Earlier today, for various reasons, we had to move our Mailman server to
a different segment of our network.  This changed the internal IP, and
several other network details (although I don't think any others that
impact mailman).  Starting just after I made the move, I am not getting
a large number of error messages in the error log that look like this:

 

Mar 03 12:40:53 2008 (2881) Uncaught runner exception: No terminating
boundary and no trailing empty line

Mar 03 12:40:53 2008 (2881) Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop

msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 164, in
dequeue

msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", line 51, in
message_from_string

return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 75, in
parsestr

return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse

self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 240, in
_parsebody

msgobj = self.parsestr(part)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 75, in
parsestr

return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse

self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 265, in
_parsebody

msg = self.parse(fp)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse

self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline)

  File "/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 206, in
_parsebody

raise Errors.BoundaryError(

BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and no trailing empty line

 

Mar 03 12:40:53 2008 (2881) Ignoring unparseable message:
1178048805.0749691+0654fbb7bc97eff421d692fe6978466fca6d68c1

 

Mail appears to be going through, but since these messages are new, they
make me nervous that I missed something in the move.  I reconfigured
exim and Mailman and replaced all references to the old IP with the new.
All the other functions appear to be working.  Any suggestions about
what's going on, and if a I need to be worried?

 

Thanks

Aaron Crosman

American Friends Service Committee

Information Technology Department

 

 

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[Mailman-Users] Subject line spacing

[Aaron Crosman]

I'm having an odd problem with messages from one list admin to a couple
lists (that are used as newsletters).  When he sends the message he gets
a moderation confirmation message, and the subject of the original
message is just fine.  But when he approves the message to go to the
whole list, it removes a space from the subject line. 

For the example he forwarded me the original subject was:
Workers score second victory over Fujikura's greed

And the subject that went out to all his list members was:
CFOmaquiladoras Updater: Workers score second victory overFujikura's
greed

Does anyone have a suggestion about what might be causing this?
Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] stat=unknown mailer error 2

[Aaron Schubert]

When sending an email message to a test list on our mailman list server I 
receive the following error in the sendmail maillog.  Here is the maillog entry.

Jun 21 13:55:50 listserv1 sendmail[4764]: l5LItoG2004763: 
to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post unixtest", ctladdr=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30989, 
dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 2

I am not sure what is happening but it looks like the error is when it tries to 
post.  Does anyone know what the stat=unknown mailer error 2 means and how to 
correct it?  Any help would be appreciated.


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[Mailman-Users] Mailing lists fail

[Aaron Schubert]

We are currently are running mailman on a Redhat box called listserv.  This box 
sits in the DMZ.  We also have our mail servers which are sitting inside the 
DMZ which pass traffic to our sendmail relay box to get to "listserv". Our mail 
is current mail setup looks like this:

Groupwise   > Sendmail Relay --> Listserv
(Client mails to list)(Relays mail to DMZ)   (Accepts list and mails 
out)

Once listserv gets the mail it then delivers to the recipients.  It's route is 
like this:

Listserv  --->Sendmail Relay>Recipients (Can be internal or 
external)

On the Sendmail Relay I see mail successfully going from Groupwise to Relay to 
Listserv.  They are all accepted and reach the correct place.  But when 
Listserv sends the mail back out to the recipients I see the following errors 
on the Relay server from the maillog:

Listserv maillog:

stat=Deferred: Connection timed out with sendmailrelay.x.

Sendmail Relay maillog:

May 23 14:07:31 hostname sendmail[19397]: l4NJ1qpd019397: listserv.. 
[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA

May 23 14:14:32 hostname sendmail[19439]: l4NJEUUY019439: lost input channel 
from .. [xxx.xxx.xx.xxx] to MTA after mail

I have replaced the hostnames and ip addresses with xx for security reasons.  
The mail successfully makes it from the user through the relay and then to the 
listserv.  But when it comes bash through,  it get the errors.

I can telnet to the sendmail relay on port 25 from listserv just fine,  I can 
send and external mail to my earthlink account from listserv just fine using 
the command line "mail -s Test [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I can see my mail 
successfully go through the listserv and the mail relay, then out.  But when it 
tries to send outbound to a list is when it doesn't go through and I see the 
message.

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration problems

[Aaron Crosman]

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:31 PM
> To: Aaron Crosman; mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration problems
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message ---
> 
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Server migration problems
>From: "Aaron Crosman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:22:19 -0400
>  To: 
> 
> >I know this comes up all the time, but having carefully reviewed the
> FAQ
> >and archives, I still haven't been able to solve my problem.
> >
> >
> >
> >I'm working on migrating my mailman setup from an old SuSE server to
a
> >new Debian (4.0) server.  For the most part everything has gone
> >smoothly, but the existing lists have a couple of problems I can't
> find
> >the cause.  I  moved the lists, archive, and data directories from
the
> >old server, and ran update, check_perms and check_db on all the
lists.
> >
> >
> >
> >If I run list_lists, mailman sees all the lists just fine, but when
> just
> >the web interface I don't see anything.  I naturally assumed that had
> >somehow become private during the move, so I exported the
> configuration
> >of one of them, and saw "advertised = True" and while I know in
python
> >it shouldn't matter, I went ahead and updated it to be "advertised =
> 1",
> >no difference.  If I browse to the list's admin interface directly it
> >seems to work.
> 
> 
> This certainly seems like FAQ 4.62 to me
>
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.062.htp>.
> Have you run fix_url?
> 
> 
> >I'm also having trouble getting into the archives.  The files are
> there,
> >and the sym-links are correct but the permissions seem to be wrong.
> 
> 
> And what are they? And what's in the web server's error log?
> 
> 
> >I'm
> >assuming I'm having a problem similar to the advertising (that mm
> seems
> >to be over-tightening permissions somewhat), but I can't find the
root
> >cause.  Any suggestions on where to look?
> 
> 
> Look at the permissions and whether the web server is allowed to
follow
> symlinks, and if all that is OK, it might be a SeLinux or other kind
> of security polict issue.
> 
> --
> Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

Thanks, you were right on about the domain problem.  I looked right
passed it, since the server will end up at the same domain, but
currently I'm accessing by IP address (I hosts file update on my local
machine solved that problem).

The archives problem persists.  You gave me the right place to look here
as well.  The archives are all owned by list (group list), but the
private archives have restricted access that blocks other users from
getting in:  
ls of /var/lib/mailman/archives:
drwxrws--- 200 list list 8.0K 2007-04-25 14:26 private
drwxrwsr-x   2 list list 4.0K 2007-04-25 14:23 public

A sample from the private directory is:
drwxrwsr-x  4 list list 4.0K 2007-04-25 14:18 itd_test

Apache's error log:
[Fri Apr 27 11:42:14 2007] [error] [client 172.17.201.205] Symbolic link
not allowed or link target not accessible:
/var/lib/mailman/archives/public/itd_test, referer:
http://server.org/mailman/listinfo/itd_test

I can't browse the file system (in bash) to those directories.  I did
double check the links in public as root, and they do work just fine, so
I'm at a permissions problem.  What should the perms here be?  Or am I
missing something else?

Aaron

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[Mailman-Users] Server migration problems

[Aaron Crosman]

I know this comes up all the time, but having carefully reviewed the FAQ
and archives, I still haven't been able to solve my problem.

 

I'm working on migrating my mailman setup from an old SuSE server to a
new Debian (4.0) server.  For the most part everything has gone
smoothly, but the existing lists have a couple of problems I can't find
the cause.  I  moved the lists, archive, and data directories from the
old server, and ran update, check_perms and check_db on all the lists.

 

If I run list_lists, mailman sees all the lists just fine, but when just
the web interface I don't see anything.  I naturally assumed that had
somehow become private during the move, so I exported the configuration
of one of them, and saw "advertised = True" and while I know in python
it shouldn't matter, I went ahead and updated it to be "advertised = 1",
no difference.  If I browse to the list's admin interface directly it
seems to work.

 

I'm also having trouble getting into the archives.  The files are there,
and the sym-links are correct but the permissions seem to be wrong.  I'm
assuming I'm having a problem similar to the advertising (that mm seems
to be over-tightening permissions somewhat), but I can't find the root
cause.  Any suggestions on where to look?

 

Aaron

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing List Configuration Files

[Aaron Todd]

Mark,

Just in cast you want to make note of this or for any future readers who 
are looking for the same thing...the location of mailman under a cPanel 
install is in

/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman

After figuring that out running the config_list -o command worked 
perfect.  The only other problem I had was with the list name.  I first 
tried the name if the list without the domain name and it would not 
accept it.  I then tried it with the domain, but also with the @ 
symbol.   That wasn't accepted either.  I then tried using the 
underscore in place of the @ like it is shown in the mailman admin and 
it outputted exactly what I wanted. 

Thanks again for your help.

Aaron Todd

Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> Thanks for the information, but I do not seem to have the config_list 
>> file in the bin directory.  Could it be somewhere else?  I have full 
>> root access to my server and it has been set up with the cPanel WHM 
>> system.  I am unsure if they store the list information in a different 
>> location.
>> 
>
>
> This would be in Mailman's bin/ directory, not the system /bin/
> directory. See
> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.011.htp>
> re cPanel.
>
> I don't know where Mailman's files are in a cPanel installation, but
> without the command line tools in Mailman's bin/ directory and the
> ability to run them, there's no easier way to compare list
> configurations than by manually going through the web pages.
>
> I suppose if you had really good tools on a local work station to
> 'screen scrape' the web interface, you could try to automate it that
> way, but without some really good tools, I think this would be more
> effort than it's worth.
>
>   

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[Mailman-Users] Mailing List Configuration Files

[Aaron Todd]

Hello,

I manage about ten different lists that all need to have almost the 
exact set of settings.  The main difference between each one is the 
name.  Is there a configuration file for each list that I can compare 
rather than comparing the settings of each web page in the admin interface.
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[Mailman-Users] mangled email addresses

[aaron]

I'm using Mailman 2.1.9. I've been getting reports from list owners of
lots of unexplained automated unsubscribes. While browsing trough
/logs/smtp-failure to look for clues, I came across many entries like
this:

Nov 09 09:31:48 2006 (2293) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed
with code 501: Bad recipient address syntax

But when I look at the list that this person is subscribed to, they are
subsribed with the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] - not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] So how is this email address getting mangled?

When I go to the Membership Management page for the list, there are
several invalid email addresses on the list (see attached) - could this
have something to do with it? I tried to unsubscribe the invalid
addresses, but am unable to do so. Anyway to manually remove these (since
they contain characters that I can not enter from shell)?

Thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

[aaron]

>Apparently you missed my followup
>
.
>I got some kind of "Confirmation of donation" message from
>"mutualaid.org fundraising <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" in response to your
>direct copy of that.

Sorry, I sent my first message from the wrong account - was in a bit of a
panic.

>Also see
>
>in case you missed that too.

OK, with that change, now I am getting the following in /var/logs/error:

Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING:
1159419548.4104459+7be8d8ba533998b5017684209212ea3b97f69527
Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't
encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128)
Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 170, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py", line 111, in
process
g.flatten(p)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 101, in
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 129, in
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 155, in
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 198, in
_handle_text
self._fp.write(payload)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2:
ordinal not in range(128)

Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING:
1159419548.429647+84361715af187a0129c782cfbdfd44e46bffea1a
Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't
encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128)
Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 170, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py", line 111, in
process
g.flatten(p)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 101, in
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 129, in
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 155, in
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 198, in
_handle_text
self._fp.write(payload)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2:
ordinal not in range(128)

Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING:
1159419548.445888+df815e5ab55f3c38f6769c68bf3eacfe6e1e7f9a
Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't
encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128)
Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 170, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py", line 111, in
process
g.flatten(p)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 101, in
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 129, in
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 155, in
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 198, in
_handle_text
self._fp.write(payload)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2:
ordinal not in range(128)

Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING:
1159419548.466742+12b709a3e7eb14f28ef161a907fd562fffbdbe34
Sep 28 11:13:03 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't
encode chara

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

[aaron]

>As a temporary workaround, you could try replacing
>
>if data.get('_parsemsg'):
>msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message)
>
>in the dequeue() definition with
>
>if istype(msg, str):
>msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message)

OK, after this change, now I'm seeing this in /logs/error:

Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760):  msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760):  if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760): NameError :  global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):  main()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):  qrunner.run()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 71, in run
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):  filecnt = self._oneloop()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):  msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765):  if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):  main()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): NameError :  global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):  qrunner.run()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 71, in run
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):  filecnt = self._oneloop()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):  msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761):  if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): NameError :  global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):  main()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):  qrunner.run()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 71, in run
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):  filecnt = self._oneloop()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):  msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767):  if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): NameError :  global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):  main()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):  qrunner.run()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 71, in run
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):  filecnt = self._oneloop()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):  msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006 qrunner(34769):  if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006 qrunner(34769): NameError :  global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006 qrunner(34770): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006 qrunner(34770):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

[aaron]

Mark: Thanks so much. I did a dumpdb on one of the shunted messages and got
the following, which includes "{   '_parsemsg': False,". Should this give me
a clue as to what happened?

/usr/local/mailman/bin/dumpdb 1159420029.324728+0d259087c7806247727557883 
597d4173df65dd6.pck [- start pickle file -]
<- start object 1 ->
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[Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

[aaron]

Hello:

I just upgraded from Mailman 2.1.5 to 2.1.9 on FreeBSD 4.9 with Python 2.4
and Postfix 2.1.5. Mailman is now broken.

I'm getting the following output constantly in /logs/error and no Mailman
messages are going out:

Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.106612+1be5c92a80ab547082a5e9cdc4559ca323c8e6aa
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.1583979+5c84c6deac57f0bcd69de2227df39129e6d767bc
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.1866331+b66e6efb843fbb219336532bf4dc59090a23ff07
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.2128279+55071f6d7828aa08fb10c28199e4b21509d74d84
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.2901649+19d5e4fbfa61ada78c90764d368691b4b90ec209
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.316684+7cac1117ca3f58033c56f74e7903eff120adeb01
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.3319981+3f4394eb80fa9c0ea39b9f229948529c2d1ccec6
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.374896+4bc10a24e6c69702f4238f97b4b1c9c3bdc2
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.393198+d8ece0c246aaf3f844300bed529c683db97bf2a6
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has

[Mailman-Users] Exporting Lists

[Aaron Oliver]

Hopefully someone can help me out.  The list server that is currently in use in 
our organization has completely stopped sending e-mails.  It has been restarted 
several times and will no longer function like it should.  
   
  I need to export the e-mail lists to move to a more reliable and stable 
system.  However, when I export the file list, it does not match what is 
showing in the web interface.  In fact, the web interface shows about 1000 more 
members than the file I exported.  
   
  Can someone please point me in the right direction to find the proper file.
   
  I have used the list_members command to export the file.
   
  Thanks for you help.
   
  Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman running on SMTP gateway

[Aaron Bento]

How is everyone today?

I was wondering if anyone has any experience in installing and running
mailman on a sendmail-based smtp gateway. I've looked in multiple places,
including the FAQ and the archives. If anyone has any pointers, it would be
very much appreciated.

We are migrating from a linux based sendmail server to exchange. The current
sendmail server will be the future smtp gateway, and I plan on forwarding
all user email to the internal exchange server through the use of a
mailertable entry. The sendmail server will have no users on it.

This server however does have a handful of email lists for the company. I'd
like to keep this in place. Does anyone know of a way to send the various
aliases through to the mailman binaries, but send the remainder of the
traffic to the internal mail server?

I've built a test environment, and can't seem to get it right. This might be
more of a sendmail issue between alias and mailertable precedence, but I
figure someone from here may have run into this.

Thank you in advance for any assistance or links.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] members address in to header

[Aaron Todd]

Mark,

Thank you very much.  I just googled OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION and
got a ton of information about exactly what you were taking about.  The FAQ
link you sent me is something that I dont think I've seen yet so I'll
proably spend a few hours there reading.

Thanks again, you've been a big help.

toddaa


On 1/30/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Aaron Todd wrote:
>
> >I know this has probably been posted a thousand times so I am sorry if I
> >annoy anyone who has been at this for years.  I am new to mailman so
> please
> >take it easy on me.
>
>
> Well then have you searched the archives of this list for your answers?
>
>
> >Is there any way for the members address to be in the
> >TO header when they get it?
>
>
> It's called 'full personalization'. If the personalization options do
> not appear on the Non-digest options page in the admin interface, It's
> because your ISP has not set OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes
> in mm_cfg.py. This may or may not be a concious decision on their part.
>
>
> >Currently when I send out an email to my list
> >each member sees the lists address in the TO and FROM headers.  Reply-TO
> was
> >pretty easy to take care of, but TO is what I am conserned about.  The
> >intention of this list is to be an announcment only list.  I really do
> not
> >want to show the lists address to the user that will be getting the
> >message.  I am not trying to SPAM people here...I am just trying to keep
> the
> >message to my customers as personal as I can.
>
>
> See the FAQ. There's lots of good information there. In particular,
> article 3.11 gives lots of detail about setting up announcement lists.
>
> >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
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[Mailman-Users] members address in to header

[Aaron Todd]

I know this has probably been posted a thousand times so I am sorry if I
annoy anyone who has been at this for years.  I am new to mailman so please
take it easy on me.

I recently had my ISP set up a list for me and due to their lack of
knowledge about mailman I have found myself searching the Internet, reading
the manuals, and now posting here for answeres to my questions.

So far I really like the system.  We have been very impressed.  One question
that has come up is:  Is there any way for the members address to be in the
TO header when they get it?  Currently when I send out an email to my list
each member sees the lists address in the TO and FROM headers.  Reply-TO was
pretty easy to take care of, but TO is what I am conserned about.  The
intention of this list is to be an announcment only list.  I really do not
want to show the lists address to the user that will be getting the
message.  I am not trying to SPAM people here...I am just trying to keep the
message to my customers as personal as I can.

If anyone could give me an answer on this or even give me something to
search on I would really appreciate it.  I've been running through
the archives, but so far come up empty.

Thanks,

toddaa
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[Mailman-Users] Personalisation of newsletters sent via Mailman

[Aaron J Elias]

Hi

 

I am a new user - just set up my lists and everything seems to be going
fine!

 

Just a quick question which I could not answer using the documentation - is
it possible to insert the members email address in the body of an email sent
to a list? That is, to personalise the email sent with the recipients email
somewhere.

 

I want to include an unsubscribe link to a page on our own site which passes
the users email address as a querystring.

 

I have seen that I should be able to put certain fields in the footer, but
when I do this, they appear in an attachment and not in the email itself.

 

Thanks for any help anyone can offer!

 

Aaron

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[Mailman-Users] Bounce messages coming in after restart

[Aaron]

Hi.

I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 on FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p10 with Postfix. I
actually have the same setup on two different servers and have been having
the same problem on both.

Every time Mailman gets restarted (pretty much only happens when we
reboot), tons of bounce notifications get sent out to list admins. It's
like Mailman was holding them and old released them upon restart.

I searched the archives for this list, but was unable to find anything
helpful.

Thanks in advance...

- aaron
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[Mailman-Users] attempting to post to the FAQ page Mailman FAQ Edit Wizard

[Aaron Brashear]

Greetings,

I am a list manager and was directed by my Mailman manager (hosting 
provider) to the Mailman FAQ Edit Wizard. When i did not find an answer 
to my question, I attempted to post to the list. It is not allowing me 
to do so, presumably since I do not have an account or access?

Anyway, perhaps you may be able to guide me in doing so properly, or 
just answer the question.

here's the post I was attempting to make:

3.56. tracking whether mailing list is actually reaching members of the 
list
Checking to see if there is a method to confirm if a post is A. sent 
and B. if it went out to all members of the list. Some of my list 
members have been receiving posts to the list (e-mails) others have 
not. Tying to see if the list server is for some reason omitting 
members. Currently only 2 members are set to digest mode, all others 
should receive and mail/post sent to the list.


Thanks in advance,

Aaron
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Tearing my hair out with Mandrake

[Aaron Weissman]

Sorry.  $prefix = /usr/lib/mailman/ ; and $var-prefix =
/var/lib/mailman/

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Aaron Weissman
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:32 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Tearing my hair out with Mandrake

Sorry for a newbie question, but I am getting tired of pulling my hair
out.  On and off, I have been trying to configure mailman for use with
two small lists for a small non-profit for several months.

I installed mailman through the mandrake 10.2 (Mandrivia LE2005) RPMs.
I can't get the thing to work, because that installation varies
significantly from the manual and the faq.

>From what I am able to determine;

$prefix = /usr/lib/mandrake/
$var-prefix = /var/lib/mandrake/
uid = mail
gid = mail

OK so far.  What else does that urpmi installation do?  I think that it
creates the initial mailman list.  Does it configure apache and postfix?

>From what I am running into, I am worried about following the steps in
the install manual, since mandrake is doing everything differently.
Anyone know of a good mandrake+mailman howto faq?

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[Mailman-Users] Tearing my hair out with Mandrake

[Aaron Weissman]

Sorry for a newbie question, but I am getting tired of pulling my hair
out.  On and off, I have been trying to configure mailman for use with
two small lists for a small non-profit for several months.

I installed mailman through the mandrake 10.2 (Mandrivia LE2005) RPMs.
I can't get the thing to work, because that installation varies
significantly from the manual and the faq.

>From what I am able to determine;

$prefix = /usr/lib/mandrake/
$var-prefix = /var/lib/mandrake/
uid = mail
gid = mail

OK so far.  What else does that urpmi installation do?  I think that it
creates the initial mailman list.  Does it configure apache and postfix?

>From what I am running into, I am worried about following the steps in
the install manual, since mandrake is doing everything differently.
Anyone know of a good mandrake+mailman howto faq?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman under Debian -- Icons aren't showing up.

[Aaron The Young]

Hello,
I am using Debian Linux and I have mailman up and running, but I'm
running into a few problems.
When I connect to the admin page, I get there, but I get three blue
boxed question marks at the bottom of the page as if something or
some images aren't loading.  I read the help sheet on copying over
icons to the apache/icons directly, and putting PythonPowered.png,
mailman-large.png, and mailman.jpg into the /usr/share/apache/icons
directory has done nothing for me.
Also, when I attempt to go to the mail archives, I get:
The requested URL /pipermail/mailman/ was not found on this server.
Do I have to install Pipermail?
Thanks for any and all help.
Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] Missing config.db and config.db.last files

[aaron]

Hello.

Somehow, many of our few hundred Mailman lists are missing their config.db
and config.db.last files.

Email traffic still seems to be working on the lists (as there is no content
in the archives), but both the /mailman/admin and /mailman/listinfo URLs are
producing the error show below. I searched the archives for this list to
find something relevant, but was unsuccessful.

The error output below shows our environment specs. We have applied the
Mailman 2.1.5 security patch.

We're completely confused - help!?

Thanks,

Aaron

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of
this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!
Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 67, in main
admin_overview()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 234, in
admin_overview
mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 128, in __init__
self.Load()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 608, in Load
raise Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError, e
MMCorruptListDatabaseError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/listname/config.db.last'



Python information:

VariableValue
sys.version 2.4 (#2, Dec 28 2004, 01:42:41) [GCC 2.95.4 20020320
[FreeBSD]]
sys.executable  /usr/local/bin/python
sys.prefix  /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix /usr/local
sys.path/usr/local
sys.platformfreebsd4

Environment variables:

VariableValue
SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10 mod_ssl/2.8.22
OpenSSL/0.9.7c-p1
SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin
SERVER_SIGNATURE
Apache/1.3.33 Server at hostname.org Port 80
REQUEST_METHOD  GET
HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300
SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0
HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive
SERVER_NAME hostname.org
REMOTE_ADDR x.x.x.x
PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/local/www/data/
SERVER_PORT 80
SERVER_ADDR x.x.x.x
DOCUMENT_ROOT   /usr/local/www/data
PYTHONPATH  /usr/local/mailman
SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
SERVER_ADMIN[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP_HOST   hostname.org
REQUEST_URI /mailman/admin/
HTTP_ACCEPT
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=
0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
GATEWAY_INTERFACE   CGI/1.1
REMOTE_PORT 1520
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGEen-us,en;q=0.5
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODINGgzip,deflate
UNIQUE_ID   QjHtr0AbHE8AAAHIET0
PATH_INFO   /


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RE: [Mailman-Users] subscribeack.txt ?

[Aaron Crosman]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Dana Rasmussen
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:27 PM
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] subscribeack.txt ?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to modify the standard welcome message new 
> subscribers will receive.
> 
> I understand that additions to the welcome message can be 
> made through the admin pages.
> 
> I searched the FAQs and found that the file 
> templates/subscribeack.txt can be modified as well.
> 
> Can I have a different version of subscribeack.txt for each 
> list on my mailman server?
> 
> I am unsure of the pathname location for my modified vesion 
> of sbscribeack.txt.  The FAQs say to "create a directory 
> lists//en (assumming English :) and copy 
> templates/subscribeack.txt to this directory."
> 
> What is the fully qualified pathname for my modified version 
> of subscribeack.txt?  One of my lists name is "scayso".
> 
> Would it be /mailman/lists/scayso/en/subscribeack.txt?
> 
> For additional lists would the pathname be /mailman/lists/ name>/en/subscribeack.txt?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dana

The location of your lists directory varies depending on your setup.

For instance my SuSE 9.1 installation (from SuSE RPM's) places the lists
directory at:
/var/lib/mailman/lists/

Other have lists in:
/var/mailman/lists/

I believe it's common to find lists in /usr/local/mailman/lists/ and
many other locations (it seems most distros seem to feel the need to use
a different location just to be different).

If you don't know where your lists live, you should be able to find them
using the find.  There are several ways to do that I would choose:
find -type d / | grep  2> /dev/null

There are probably more elegant ways to find the path, but this should
get you the information you need.  If you only have FTP access you'll
need a more elegant solution since running find wont be an option.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page -- More information -- Solved

[Aaron Crosman]

That was it!  Thanks for sticking with me.

Aaron

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:06 PM
> To: Aaron Crosman; mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page -- 
> More information
> 
> Aaron Crosman wrote:
> >
> >I'm quite sure it's not a template.  I have checked, double 
> check, and 
> >now triple checked.  I'm really sure.  None of those other 
> directories 
> >exist except lists//es/ and that just contains a 
> >"subscriback.txt" for the replacement welcome message.
> 
> You are correct. I think I've discovered the problem.
> 
> The 2.1.4 version of messages/es/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po contains:
> 
> #: Mailman/Cgi/options.py:767
> msgid ""
> "\n"
> "You are subscribed to this list with the case-preserved address\n"
> "%(cpuser)s."
> msgstr ""
> "\n"
> "Está suscrito a la lista con la dirección %s 
> respetando mayúsculas "
> "y minúsculas."
> 
> 
> This is wrong. It was fixed in 2.1.5. The last 2 lines should be
> 
> "Está suscrito a la lista con la dirección 
> %(cpuser)s respetando "
> "mayúsculas y minúsculas."
> 
> The crucial difference is %(cpuser)s, not %s
> 
> After fixing the file, you need to update the .mo file with
> 
> bin/msgfmt.py messages/es/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po
> 
> BTW, I think you'll find that your test list has the same 
> problem if you visit the options page as a subscriber.
> 
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> 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page -- More information

[Aaron Crosman]

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:14 PM
> To: Aaron Crosman; mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page -- 
> More information
> 

> Did you access the second list's options with exactly the 
> same 'hostname' (as in http://hostname/...) as the first 
> list? If not, it still might be a host specific template.
> 
> If you're convinced it is not the template, then I don't know 
> what it might be as I said in my previous post, the fragments 
> that you posted (outside of what appears to be a dump of a 
> Python dictionary) don't correlate with any template.
> 
> --
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> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

I'm quite sure it's not a template.  I have checked, double check, and
now triple checked.  I'm really sure.  None of those other directories
exist except lists//es/ and that just contains a
"subscriback.txt" for the replacement welcome message.

Could a corruption of the config.pck cause a problem like this?
Alternatively, is it possible that the template cache is being stored on
disk, and not properly getting flushed when mailman is restarted?

Finally are there suggestions on how to rebuild this list caring over
only the few configuration options I care about (subscriber settings
mostly).

Aaron
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page -- More information

[Aaron Crosman]

I setup a second list with Spanish as it's language option, and I tried
opening the users options page there.  That page is fine.  So this seems
to be an issue with the way that the particular list in question is
setup.

Does anyone have any suggestions about where in a list's configuration
damage might have been done that destroys the user options page?  Or
what to reset that might clear this up?  There are no list specific
templates, just a replacement welcome message.

Thanks
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page

[Aaron Crosman]

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 1:49 PM
> To: Aaron Crosman; mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page
> 
> Aaron Crosman wrote:
> 
> >I'm running Mailman 2.1.4 on SuSE 9.1, using the SuSE 
> package.  I have one user using the Spanish language version 
> of Mailman.  Almost everything is setup, however today we 
> noticed that the user options page of the Spanish language 
> version is not working properly at all (everything is fine if 
> you look at the English lists).
> >
> 
> The first thing to check is the Spanish language template for 
> the page.
> The base template is templates/es/options.html, but there 
> could also be a site edited template at 
> templates/site/es/options.html or a domain specific edited 
> template at templates//es/options.html or a list 
> specific edited template at lists//es/options.html.
> 
> Note that the base template should never be edited. Edited 
> templates should be in one or more of the other 3 places. See 
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.048.htp
> 
> --
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> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan


While this was wonderfully helpful information for other projects that I'm 
working on, it didn't resolve the issue with the user options page for the 
Spanish version.  Yesterday I downloaded the options.html from the CVS tree and 
replaced the copy that was there, and restarted mailman, but that didn't help.  
They are seeing a mix of Python/HTML code in the page.  Could there be 
something wrong in the data for the list that could cause this?  I ran 
check_perms and check_db and neither found anything.  Or is there some parsing 
code that applies only to non-English pages that might be corrupt? The 
following is an excerpt of the source code seen by the browser:

Está suscrito a la lista con la dirección {'WidgetArray': , 'Errors': , 'PasswordBox': 
, 'DELIVERED_BY': 
'mailman.jpg', 'DefinitionList': , 'Strikeout': , 
'options_page': , 'message': '', 
'Document': , 
'QuotedContainer': , 
'replacements': {'': '', '': '', '': 
'\n\n  Espa\xf1ol 
(Espa\xf1a) \n  Ingl\xe9s (EEUU) 
\n', '': 'CFOmaquiladoras Lo nuevo', 
'': '', 

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] Spanish version option page

[Aaron Crosman]

I'm running Mailman 2.1.4 on SuSE 9.1, using the SuSE package.  I have one user 
using the Spanish language version of Mailman.  Almost everything is setup, 
however today we noticed that the user options page of the Spanish language 
version is not working properly at all (everything is fine if you look at the 
English lists).

It looks like the raw Python code is being displayed, instead of processed by 
the server.  For example the page starts:
 Está suscrito a la lista con la dirección {'WidgetArray': , 'Errors': , 
'PasswordBox': , 'DELIVERED_BY': 'mailman.jpg', 'DefinitionList': , 
'Strikeout': , 'options_page': , 'message': '', 'Document': , 
'QuotedContainer': , 'replacements': {'': '

Has anyone else run into a similar problem?  If someone else running SuSE's 
package could check to see if they have similar problems it would be very 
helpful.  I'm open to the idea that at some point I may have damaged the source 
code (they noticed several typos in the past that I fixed, although none on the 
user options, to my knowledge this is the first use of the page), but before I 
replace it I thought I would check to see if others have a similar problem.

Is it likely that I could download the 2.1.4 options page from the CVS tree and 
just swap it in?  If so what file would I be going after?

Thanks for any help.
Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Statistics

[Aaron Crosman]

I'm looking for a package that could provide traffic reports for
Mailman, similar to those that AWStats or Webalizer generate for web
traffic.  I searched the archive, and while I found a conversation from
2002 suggesting that several people were considering starting such a
project I can't find any evidence of what became of those conversations.

A search of Freshmeat and Google didn't result in much more help results
either.  Is there something out there that I'm missing?  I know I could
track the MTA stats, but I'd like to be able to keep an eye on some of
the internal Mailman functions like how many messages are getting turn
rejected by moderators and such.

Thanks
Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman/VERP problems.

[Aaron Crosman]

After several months of a nicely functioning Mailman server, I opted to
enable VERP yesterday. We're running MM 2.1.4 on SuSE with exim.  Since
then most everything has worked fine, until an announcement only list of
4000 sent a message earlier this afternoon.  Of the roughly 4000
messages, about 1600 are now frozen in the exim queue.

The exim queue has lots of entries like this:
2005-02-03 12:27:31 1CwklP-0002Rm-5i <=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] H=localhost (server.org)
[127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=47504 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2005-02-03 12:27:31 1CwklP-0002Rm-5i ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup
T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host mxb.earthlink.net [207.217.125.26]: 550
[EMAIL PROTECTED] unknown
.
.
.
2005-02-03 12:27:32 1CwklP-0002S1-Rp ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R=mailman_router
T=mailman_transport: 
Child process of mailman_transport transport returned 6 from command:
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman

Resulting in the following from syslog:
Feb  3 12:27:32 list Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal command:
bounces+namepart=domain.tld


It seems that suddenly large numbers of addresses are suddenly bouncing.
Mailman is then chocking on the bounces.  I followed the instructions
from http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman21.html#verpin when I setup VERP.
I'm not carefully reviewing those changes to check for mistakes.

If anyone has insight into why so many addresses are suddenly bouncing,
and why mailman is chocking on the bounces I would very much appreciate
it.

The other detail worth mentioning is that several smaller lists are
continuing to function properly.  This list was transferred some time
ago from another server.  There were some minor changes I had to take
just after the migration to deal with odd settings that came in when the
lists were moved.  Everything seemed to be fine, but now I wondering if
I missed something during the move.
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Change the default text for the confirm subscribemessage.

[Aaron Crosman]

Yes.  I believe all the email messages can be changed. They are stored in the 
mailman/templates directory to start.  Changes there effect every list on the 
server.  If you want to over ride the message for 1 list you can add a file in 
/var/lib/mailmain/LISTNAME/en (for English) with the same name as the message 
you wish to replace.

I know:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.011.htp

Touches on this issue, there may be other things in the FAQ as well.

My one word of warning I'm having trouble with non-English texts getting 
mangled along the way.  I'm not sure what I'm missing there yet.

Aaron

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon 
> Ole Nødtvedt
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:37 AM
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Change the default text for the 
> confirm subscribemessage. 
> 
> Hello
> 
> Is it possible to change the text in the default confirm 
> subscribe message sent from Mailman? If so, how is this accomplished?
> 
> Best regards,
> Jon Ole Nødtvedt
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[Mailman-Users] Spanish language version

[Aaron Crosman]

I'm having a problem customizing the welcome message for a Spanish language
list we are about to start on our server. This is an announcement-style list
so I need to replace the standard message (so there are no posting
instructions or password references).  I have the message in the right spot,
but when mailman sends the message the accented characters look like
gibberish to the recipient.  I thought it might be a problem with the client
(Outlook in all test cases so far), but the messages written by the system
do not have the same problem.  Is there something I need to do to make sure
the email gets encoded right (other then putting it in an es directory
instead of en)?

Thanks for any guidence
Aaron

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[Mailman-Users] TypeError: unicode() argument 2 must be string, not None

[aaron]

Hello.

I'm getting the following error when rebuilding the archives (using
/mailman/bin/arch) for a list. I was unable to find anything relevant in the
mailman-users archives and would greatly appreciate any suggestions. I'm
running Mailman 2.1.2 on FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p11 with Python 2.1.3.

Updating HTML for article 7152
Updating HTML for article 7151
Updating HTML for article 7153
Updating HTML for article 7155
Updating HTML for article 7154
Pickling archive state into
/home/mailman/archives/private/listname/pipermail.pck
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./arch", line 187, in ?
main()
  File "./arch", line 175, in main
archiver.processUnixMailbox(fp, start, end)
  File "/home/mailman//Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 544, in
processUnixMailbox
m = mbox.next()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.1/mailbox.py", line 30, in next
return self.factory(_Subfile(self.fp, start, stop))
  File "/home/mailman//Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 89, in scrubber
return mailbox.scrub(msg)
  File "/home/mailman//Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 109, in scrub
return self._scrubber(self._mlist, msg)
  File "/home/mailman//Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 257, in process
url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir)
  File "/home/mailman//Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 348, in
save_attachment
fnext = os.path.splitext(msg.get_filename(''))[1]
  File "/home/mailman//pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 707, in
get_filename
return unicode(newvalue[2], newvalue[0])
TypeError: unicode() argument 2 must be string, not None


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailmaning only generating messages to some members

[Aaron Crosman]

 

Mark Sapiro Wrote:
 
> 
> Assuming they didn't change them. Did you look at the 
> membership on the Membership Management... page and verify 
> that everyone has delivery enabled and is not on digest?

I did check the management information, they all still have their
original settings.

> >I ran the mailman permission and database checking tools, 
> they didn't 
> >find any problems.
> >
> >The only thing I can find that's unusal at all is that the 
> moderator is 
> >not a member on the list.
> 
> 
> This shouldn't be a problem.

Good to know for sure, thanks.

 
> >I must be missing something.  As you can imagine I'm under a little 
> >pressure, so any hints or guidence would be much appreicated.
> 
> 
> Logs snipped, but did you look at mailman's smtp log? Does it say 3 or
> 7 or some other number for recipients?
> 

3

Dec 13 12:39:17 2004 (2487)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 3
recips, completed in 0.290 seconds
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[Mailman-Users] Mailmaning only generating messages to some members

[Aaron Crosman]

I'm running Mailman 2.1.4 on a Suse 9.1 machine.  For a couple months
everything has been mostly fine.
 
About 2 weeks ago I setup a list for my bosses boss, I wasn't worried
since she only needed (very) a small list and we have 4000+ member list
that works fine.  As one would expect her list, of course, now has
problems.
 
Yesterday she sent a message to the list (first posting), and mailman
only generated 3 outgoing messages (for a list with 7 members).  I have
looked through the mailman and exim logs, and I can't find a single
error message related to that message.  Everything I find implies that
nothing went wrong, except only 3 messages were generated.  All three
people have said they got message, and the other 4 did not.  
The message is in the archives.
There are no bounce records.
All members on the list were subscribed in mass on 5 days earilier (and
therefore have the same settings). 
I ran the mailman permission and database checking tools, they didn't
find any problems.  

The only thing I can find that's unusal at all is that the moderator is
not a member on the list.

I must be missing something.  As you can imagine I'm under a little
pressure, so any hints or guidence would be much appreicated.

Aaron
 
>From the exim main.log (the email addresses were changed to protect my
personal interests ;) )
 
2004-12-13 12:39:15 1CduAF-0003t3-Ij <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=mail.afsc.org
[198.70.42.3] P=esmtp S=15565
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-12-13 12:39:15 1CduAF-0003t3-Ij => Listname
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport
2004-12-13 12:39:15 1CduAF-0003t3-Ij Completed
2004-12-13 12:39:17 1CduAH-0003t8-2N <= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H=localhost (list.afsc.org) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=17215
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-12-13 12:39:17 1CduAH-0003t8-5U <= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  H=localhost (list.afsc.org)
[127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=17206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-12-13 12:39:17 1CduAH-0003t8-8K <= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H=localhost (list.afsc.org) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=17207
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-12-13 12:39:19 1CduAH-0003t8-2N => [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=smtpgateway.co.marin.ca.us [199.88.77.98]
2004-12-13 12:39:19 1CduAH-0003t8-2N Completed
2004-12-13 12:39:22 1CduAH-0003t8-5U => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup
T=remote_smtp H=mail.afsc.org [198.70.42.3]
2004-12-13 12:39:22 1CduAH-0003t8-5U Completed
2004-12-13 12:39:23 1CduAH-0003t8-8K => [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=mailin-02.mx.aol.com
[205.188.156.249]
2004-12-13 12:39:23 1CduAH-0003t8-8K Completed

>From the mailman post log:
Dec 13 12:39:17 2004 (2487) post to listname from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=17033,
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
success
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Re: [Mailman-Users] changing MTA from sendmail -> *postfix*

[Aaron Bennett]

John Dennis wrote:
procmail.
And yes, postfix works quite well with mailman.
 

Ah, I'm assuming your got your names mixed up and you meant postfix not
egads.
Brain freeze.  I mean postfix.  I was thinking of postfix all along and 
I probably even though postfix while I was typing and somehow my fingers 
hit the keys for to spell 'procmail' instead. 

Egads again.
So, now that I've made an ass of myself in front of millions of 
people... :-)

allow me to restate.  I'm going to migrate from sendmail -> postfix; are 
there any gotchas I need to be aware of in that migration from a mailman 
perspective?

sheepishly,
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[Mailman-Users] changing MTA from sendmail -> procmail

[Aaron Bennett]

Hi,
I've got an established mailman installation on RHEL 3 and I'm planning 
to change that system's MTA from sendmail to procmail.  Does anyone know 
of any gotchas or other things I need to look out for?  I'm assuming 
that in a non-virtual-domain setup like this it should be fairly simple: 
make sure I've got backups of /etc/aliases and then uses Redhat's nifty 
little redhat-switch-mail program to change to postfix

Anyone have scars from a similiar assumption?
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[Mailman-Users] How do I interface Mailman with Apache?

[Aaron The Young]

Hello,
I seem to have mailman configured and built properly, but I'm
wondering how to get it interfaced with apache.  It seems to have
put itself in /usr/local/mailman and that's not where apache is.
Do I need to rebuild it? or can I link it into Apache?  I'm not
seeing anything obvious in the documentation.  I've not ever used
mailman before, so I'm kinda lost.
Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Subscription Confirmation Emails Failing

[Aaron Crosman]

I am having trouble with the subscription confirmation emails.  If I
used the link in the email everything is fine, but email reply process
fails. I'm running Mailman 2.1.4 with exim  (4.30-25.2) and a SuSE 9.1
server.

When a user replies to the email they are sent the message I included at
the end of this email.

I looked in the exim logs to see if I could sort out where the process
was failing and I found this:  

===
2004-10-13 11:55:06 1CHlT0-e7-IO <= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H=bay13-f31.bay13.hotmail.com (hotmail.com) [64.4.31.31] P=esmtp S=2263
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-10-13 11:55:06 1CHlT0-e7-IO ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
org> R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport: Child process of
mailman_transport transport returned 6 from command:
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman
2004-10-13 11:55:06 1CHlT0-hE-Qt <= <> R=1CHlT0-e7-IO U=mail
P=local S=3176
2004-10-13 11:55:06 1CHlT0-e7-IO Completed
2004-10-13 11:55:07 1CHlT0-hE-Qt => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup
T=remote_smtp H=mx1.hotmail.com [65.54.166.99]


I tested exim directly and found that it was sending the message to the
mailman_router that I setup.  The second entry and a search of this
list's archives made me wonder if there was a permissions issue, so I
checked and mail was not in the mailman group.  I added mail to the
mailman group, and mailman to the mail group (just in case).  I
restarted both processes and I got the same result.  Can anyone point me
toward help here?  The path to the command is right, but something is
clearly wrong.

Thanks
Aaron

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Compile Problem: msgmerge/gettext wants automake 1.8?!

[Aaron The Young]

Solaris 8 has no msgmerge. You have to install GNU gettext.
Or, you can download latest messages/Makefile.in from CVS
(Release_2_1-maint branch) and restart installation from
'configure'.
You can get the latest CVS for the Release_2_1-maint by
$ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/mailman \
  co -r Release_2_1-maint mailman
Well, by deduction and some searching I was able to figure out I needed
gettext.  Thanks.
However, it appears gettext needs automake 1.8 and all I can get my hands
on is 1.8b and 1.9.  When I try to run make, I get:
% make
 cd . && /bin/ksh /usr/local/src/gettext-0.14.1/config/missing --run 
automake-1.8 --gnu
/usr/local/src/gettext-0.14.1/config/missing[46]: automake-1.8:  not found
WARNING: `automake-1.8' is needed, and you do not seem to have it handy on your
 system.  You might have modified some files without having the
 proper tools for further handling them.  Check the `README' file,
 it often tells you about the needed prerequirements for installing
 this package.  You may also peek at any GNU archive site, in case
 some other package would contain this missing `automake-1.8' program.
make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1

% automake --version
automake (GNU automake) 1.8b
I've tried 1.9 and it still gives me this error.  Is there someway to get 
around
this or can you direct me to where I might find automake 1.8 nowadays?

Thanks,
Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] Compile Problem: msgmerge: command not found.

[Aaron The Young]

Hey all,
I'm running Solaris 2.8 and python 2.3.3 and my configure of mailman 2.1.5 
goes swell, but when I attempt to
compile, I get the following during my compile:

gcc -I. -DMAIL_GROUP="\"mailman\"" -g -O2 -g -O2 -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" 
-DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"\" 
-DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_SETREGID=1 
-DHAVE_SYSLOG=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 
-DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 
-DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_SYSLOG_H=1 -DGETGROUPS_T=gid_t 
-DHAVE_VSNPRINTF=1   common.o vsnprintf.o -o mailman ./mail-wrapper.c

make[1]: Leaving directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/src'
make[1]: Entering directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/templates'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/templates'
make[1]: Entering directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/messages'
Merging new template file with existing translations
msgmerge -U ca/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po mailman.pot
make[1]: msgmerge: Command not found
Seems like something is missing or hasn't been made correctly along the way.
Why is msgmerge missing?  Any clues?
Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] Compile problem: msgmerge: command not found

[Aaron Young]

Hey all,
I'm running Solaris 2.8 and python 2.3.3 and my configure of mailman 
2.1.5 goes swell, but when I attempt to
compile, I get the following:

gcc -I. -DMAIL_GROUP="\"mailman\"" -g -O2 -g -O2 -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" 
-DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"\" 
-DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_SETREGID=1 
-DHAVE_SYSLOG=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 
-DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 
-DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 
-DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_SYSLOG_H=1 -DGETGROUPS_T=gid_t 
-DHAVE_VSNPRINTF=1   common.o vsnprintf.o -o mailman ./mail-wrapper.c
make[1]: Leaving directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/src'
make[1]: Entering directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/templates'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/templates'
make[1]: Entering directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/messages'
Merging new template file with existing translations
msgmerge -U ca/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po mailman.pot
make[1]: msgmerge: Command not found

Seems like something is missing hasn't been made correctly along the 
way.
Why msgmerge missing?

Aaron
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[Mailman-Users] unable to remove subscriber

[aaron]

somehow i ended up with a malformed address in one of my lists (it has a
double @@ in the address) and am unable to remove it. i am using Mailman
2.1.2. here is the error i'm getting:

# ./remove_members thelistname person@@hotmail.com
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./remove_members", line 186, in ?
main()
  File "./remove_members", line 176, in main
admin_notif, userack)
  File "/home/mailman//Mailman/MailList.py", line 941, in
ApprovedDeleteMember
self.removeMember(emailaddr)
  File "/home/mailman//Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 220, in
removeMember
self.__assertIsMember(member)
  File "/home/mailman//Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 113, in
__assertIsMember
raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member
Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: person@

if you have any ideas, please cc: me directly on your response.

thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Project Help

[Aaron Schaap]

I was just wondering what's the best way or the step's I should take to help
out on this project. I'd like to help out with some design and making the
pages compliant with XHTML and CSS.


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[Mailman-Users] What happens to returned mail?

[Aaron Anderson]

   Hi all,

Returned messages from Mailman are not turning up in my dead.letter file 
nor do I receive sperate email notices of returned mail.

Do I have to turn off bounce processing in order to track down returned 
mail?

I need the header info of a returned message. Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Editing administrivia trigger words. How?

[Aaron Anderson]

Where might be the file that contains these words?

Thanks!  Aaron Anderson   

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail<->News gateway moderation question

[Aaron Anderson]

>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail<->News ¬Ýgatewaysmoderation question
>
>
>There are a lot of Unix based MTA that will allow you to do this.  There
>are also some well written ones for the world of Windows; Eudora comes
>to mind, as does Pegasus.
>
>If your looking for aid/relief from some big Monopoly that writes OS's
>and email clients, then don't hold your breath (though theoretically you
>could write a VBA extension that allows Outlook to do this)
>
>http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/29/MailUserAgents.pdf
>
>Jon Carnes

Thanks for the reply, Joe. The instructions made it look very easy. I
take it that Mailman cannot add these approval headers to posts going to
the moderated usenet group. Is that so?

Thanks much. Aaron

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[Mailman-Users] Mail<->News gateways moderation question

[Aaron Anderson]

>From the Mail<->News gateways settings:

"If the newsgroup is moderated, you can set this mailing list up to be
the moderation address for the newsgroup. By selecting Moderated, an
additional posting hold will be placed in the approval process. All
messages posted to the mailing list will have to be approved before being
sent on to the newsgroup, or to the mailing list membership.

Note that if the message has an Approved header with the list's
administrative password in it, this hold test will be bypassed, allowing
privileged posters to send messages directly to the list and the
newsgroup."

Question: Exactly where/how do you put this Approved header and password
so that it will appear in these approved messages, causing them to be
posted on a moderated newsgroup?

thank you,

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[Mailman-Users] administrivia filter not functioning

[Aaron Anderson]

 Help, 

Our  unsubscribe and and remove requests are going to the entire list and 
into the archives.

I have checked the appropriate box under "General Options" to engage the 
administrivia filter. 

Am I out of sync with another group of settings. I noticed a warning, but 
do not know which settings (filters) they might be.

Thank you in advance! I use Mailman version 2.1.2

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[Mailman-Users] RE: Forced footer for all Mailman lists

[aaron]

Brad: Thanks for your response.

>   It's easy enough to change the templates, but if any of your 
>mailing list owners have shell access to the server, they might be 
>able to change them back.

We don't provide any shell access, but won't list admins be able to change
the footer using the web admin interface under "Non-digest options" or
"Digest options" -> msg_footer?

>   The issue of changing templates is addressed in FAQ 3.11, at 
><http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.011.htp>, 
>although this is not the primary purpose of this entry.

My understanding is that changing the templates in this way would just
change the default footer for new lists, leaving the possibility that any
list admin will remove the footer from their list using the web admin
interface.

Sorry if i misunderstood.

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[Mailman-Users] Forced footer for all Mailman lists

[aaron]

We need to append a forced footer message (with unsubscribe info) to all of
the Mailman lists that we host. This needs to be done in a way that prevents
any list admins from changing or removing the message. We thought that we
could do this using Decorate.py, but can't seem to figure it out. Ideally,
we would want this footer to be appended in addition to the custom list
footer.

This is the third time I've requested help on this and there have been no
takers so far. This time I'll offer to pay for someone's time to help me if
you know how to accomplish this.

We are using Mailman 2.1.2.

Please CC: me directly on your reply. TIA.

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[Mailman-Users] Footer question

[aaron]

I'll try this one more time - would appreciate any guidance

Hello.

I need to append a footer (w/unsubscribe info) to all Mailman messages
going out from my server. I need to do this in a way so that it is not
possible for list admins to modify the footer. Does anyone have any
suggestions?

I searched the list archives and found something about using
Decorate.py, to do this, but I have been unable to figure out how to
make this work.

I'm using Mailman 2.1.3 with Python 2.1.3. on FreeBSD.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

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[Mailman-Users] Forced footer

[aaron]

Hello.

I need to append a footer (w/unsubscribe info) to all Mailman messages
going out from my server. I need to do this in a way so that it is not
possible for list admins to modify the footer. Does anyone have any
suggestions?

I searched the list archives and found something about using
Decorate.py, to do this, but I have been unable to figure out how to
make this work.

I'm using Mailman 2.1.3 with Python 2.1.3. on FreeBSD.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

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[Mailman-Users] strange bounce notification

[Aaron Bennett]

Hello --

One of our lists owners has received a very strange uncaught bounce 
notification.  I can't figure out where it's coming from... here is the 
message:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Uncaught bounce notification

The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce
format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted
from it.  This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized
bounce messages to the list administrator(s).
For more information see:
http://lists.olin.edu/mailman/admin/it-student-wg/bounce
 



Subject:
New subscription request to list It-student-wg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:35:54 -0400

To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Your authorization is required for a mailing list subscription request
approval:
   For:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At your convenience, visit:

   http://lists.olin.edu/mailman/admindb/it-student-wg
	
to process the request.
 

How would this bounce?  Where was it sent to?

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[Mailman-Users] plain old fashioned bouncing?

[Aaron Bennett]

Hi --

Please bear with me.  I'm relatively new to mailman, and I freely admit 
I don't know a pickle from a VERP from a pumpkin. :-)

One of our lists is fairly critical: if a message doesn't get delivered, 
the list owner needs to know about it so that she can send a hard copy 
instead.  Unfortunately, the list of email addresses which was used to 
populate this list is known to contain several bad addresses, but no one 
knows *which* addresses are bad.  I'd like a way to have all bounces to 
go her, or, in the worst case, to me or to a file or something, so that 
she can go an follow up on each bad email address and either track down 
the correct one and fix it or delete it from the list.  We can't afford 
to let bounce processing wait for five bounces before notifying the list 
owner.

The obvious solution is to set bouce_score_threshhold to 0.  
Unfortunately, I didn't realize this was going to be necessary until an 
important announcement was sent to the list already.  My questions are:

1 - am I on the right track with bounce_score_threshhold=0 ?
2 - is there a way to dump out all of the bounces to a file so I can 
pass it to the list owner?  Where are bounces 'stored' ? 

Please forgive my ignorance about the internals of mailman. 

thanks!

- Aaron Bennett



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[Mailman-Users] new version of mailman installed in differentplace...

[Aaron Falk]

Hi-

I just upgraded from RH7.3 to RH9 and, while I had initially installed
mailman 2.0.13 in /usr/share/mailman, I let RH install 2.1 during the
upgrade.  Afterwards, I discovered that the new location is
/var/mailman.  

I thought that moving the lists to the new location would be a simple
matter.  As user mailman I tarred up the mailman/archive/* and
mailman/lists/* directories, moved them to the new location, and
untarred them.  I restarted httpd and could get to the list admin
login page but, upon logging in, I get an error.  Also, the lists are
not forwarding mail.  (The lists are primarily for a bunch of YMCA
programs which are moribund during the summer so there is no traffic
at this time.)

Can anyone suggest either a way to fix my current move/upgrade
strategy or tell me the right way to start over?  I'm pasting in the
error message below.

Thanks,

--aaron



Bug in Mailman version 2.1

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks! 

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 82, in main
cgidata.getvalue('adminpw', '')):
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 216, in
  WebAuthenticate
ac = self.Authenticate(authcontexts, response, user)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 182, in
  Authenticate
self.Save()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 505, in Save
self.__save(dict)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 463, in __save
fp = open(fname_tmp, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
  '/var/mailman/lists/test/config.pck.tmp.nit.isi.edu.2223'







Python information:
Variable Value 
sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red
Hat Linux 3.2.2-4)]  
sys.executable /usr/bin/python  
sys.prefix /usr  
sys.exec_prefix /usr  
sys.path /usr  
sys.platform linux2  






Environment variables:
Variable Value 
CONTENT_LENGTH  16  
CONTENT_TYPE  application/x-www-form-urlencoded  
HTTP_REFERER  http://nit.isi.edu/mailman/admin/test  
SCRIPT_FILENAME  /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin  
PYTHONPATH  /var/mailman  
SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux)  
SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/admin  
SERVER_SIGNATURE  Apache/2.0.40 Server at nit Port 80 
REQUEST_METHOD  POST  
HTTP_HOST  nit.isi.edu  
PATH_INFO  /test  
SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1  
QUERY_STRING   
HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL  no-cache  
REQUEST_URI  /mailman/admin/test  
HTTP_ACCEPT  image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint,
application/msword, */*  
PATH_TRANSLATED  /var/www/html/test  
HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)  
HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive  
SERVER_NAME  nit  
REMOTE_ADDR  64.81.33.165  
REMOTE_PORT  1373  
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  en-us  
UNIQUE_ID  RQE4DIAJoHQAAAQ3NR8D  
SERVER_PORT  80  
GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1  
REMOTE_HOST  dsl081-033-165.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net  
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate  
SERVER_ADDR  128.9.160.116  
DOCUMENT_ROOT  /var/www/html  




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[Mailman-Users] bad links to secure server

[Aaron M Daley]

I set mailman up on our secure server. I moved over some pre-existing lists.
some worked fine, the rest also work fine accept for one minor detail. Many
of the links within the admin page are incorrect. That is to say the address
is completly correct accept that it starts out "http" instead of "https" so
of course I get a 404 error from our regular server everytime I click on a
link. The links on the general options page are correct but like the member
management page and administrative request page are wrong. Any idea's? I
already tried deleting the list and recreating it but I had the same exact
problem. Please help.

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[Mailman-Users] cron daemon error

[Aaron M Daley]

I installed mailman on a new machine running redhat 8. That machine is also
running the latest 1.X apache and sendmail packages. Everything installed
fine. I copied over some other lists that were running on and older machine
and they show up fine on the admin page. I can configure them and
everything. All aliases are set up in /etc/aliases. However when I tried to
send a test message, it seems to go through fine, I get no emails saying the
the mail server rejected it or anything. What I do get is a constant and
steady stream of emails from the cron daemon all saying the exact same
thing:


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 222, in ?
main()
  File "/home/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 203, in main
process_lists(lock)
  File "/home/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 148, in process_lists
conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist)
  File "/home/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 75, in open_newsgroup
password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 111, in __init__
self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port))
socket.error: (111, 'Connection refused')



I have no idea what this means. I'm pretty green when it comes to linux so
keep that in mind.
I do know what the cron daemon is and I did set up the mailman cron entry as
instructed in there install directions.

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[Mailman-Users] Wishlist addition

[Aaron Birenboim]

At this time, you need to know that the ONLY place to go to get
a reminder of your password is:

http://mydomain.com/mailman/options/myList/myName%40myISP.com

This is a bit obscure.

How hard would it be to add this URL 
to the response to the "help" e-mail command?

How could I get this in the Wishlist?
I think this would be a minor addition, and could be part of the 2.x
release.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages stuck and not going out...

[aaron]

> > The solution to my problem was to make the following changes to
sendmail:
> >
> > - turn on accept_unresolvable_domains.
>>
> Be careful!!  This is an invitation to some significant
> headaches.  A friend of mine found his mail server was being used
> as a relay by most of the People's Republic of China (literally
> about 10,000 messages per hour through his little Pentium-200
> mail server) until he shut this option OFF.

This doesn't allow anyone to relay off of my server, it just tells sendmail
that it can accept mail for domains that it can no resolve... it does not
effect who can relay off my host, just what they can relay.


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[Mailman-Users] messages not going out...

[aaron]

I'm running Mailman 2.0.8 on FresBSD 4.5-RELEASE with Python 2.1.1 and
Apache 1.3.22...

None of my lists are sending out messages and qrunner seems to be stuck
attempting to resend the same messages, see below:

following is from ~/logs/post

Feb 14 21:09:14 2002 (10480) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 21:15:22 2002 (10780) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures
Feb 14 21:46:09 2002 (10780) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 21:51:56 2002 (11133) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures
Feb 14 22:16:04 2002 (11133) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 22:22:01 2002 (11313) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures
Feb 14 22:45:44 2002 (11313) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 22:50:51 2002 (11544) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures
Feb 14 23:15:45 2002 (11544) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 23:20:46 2002 (11910) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures

and the following is from ~/logs/smtp

Feb 14 21:09:14 2002 (10480) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1611.472
seconds
Feb 14 21:15:22 2002 (10780) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 321.519 seconds
Feb 14 21:46:09 2002 (10780) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1847.106
seconds
Feb 14 21:51:56 2002 (11133) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 296.023 seconds
Feb 14 22:16:04 2002 (11133) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1447.830
seconds
Feb 14 22:22:01 2002 (11313) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 301.015 seconds
Feb 14 22:45:44 2002 (11313) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1423.400
seconds
Feb 14 22:50:51 2002 (11544) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 291.205 seconds
Feb 14 23:15:45 2002 (11544) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1493.861
seconds
Feb 14 23:20:46 2002 (11910) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 286.054 seconds

A little help?

TIA,

Aaron


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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages stuck and not going out...

[aaron]

The solution to my problem was to make the following changes to sendmail:

- turn off relay_based_on_mx
- turn on accept_unresolvable_domains.

once I did this, mailman released all of the messages it has been holding
for days...

- Original Message -
From: "aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 11:32 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] messages stuck and not going out...


> I'm running Mailman 2.0.8 on FresBSD 4.5-RELEASE with Python 2.1.1 and
> Apache 1.3.22...
>
> None of my lists are sending out messages and qrunner seems to be stuck
> attempting to resend the same messages, see below:
>
> following is from ~/logs/post
>
> Feb 14 21:09:14 2002 (10480) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=13253,
> 20 failures
> Feb 14 21:15:22 2002 (10780) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367,
7
> failures
> Feb 14 21:46:09 2002 (10780) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=13253,
> 20 failures
> Feb 14 21:51:56 2002 (11133) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367,
7
> failures
> Feb 14 22:16:04 2002 (11133) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=13253,
> 20 failures
> Feb 14 22:22:01 2002 (11313) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367,
7
> failures
> Feb 14 22:45:44 2002 (11313) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=13253,
> 20 failures
> Feb 14 22:50:51 2002 (11544) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367,
7
> failures
> Feb 14 23:15:45 2002 (11544) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=13253,
> 20 failures
> Feb 14 23:20:46 2002 (11910) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367,
7
> failures
>
> and the following is from ~/logs/smtp
>
> Feb 14 21:09:14 2002 (10480) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1611.472
> seconds
> Feb 14 21:15:22 2002 (10780) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 321.519
seconds
> Feb 14 21:46:09 2002 (10780) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1847.106
> seconds
> Feb 14 21:51:56 2002 (11133) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 296.023
seconds
> Feb 14 22:16:04 2002 (11133) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1447.830
> seconds
> Feb 14 22:22:01 2002 (11313) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 301.015
seconds
> Feb 14 22:45:44 2002 (11313) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1423.400
> seconds
> Feb 14 22:50:51 2002 (11544) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 291.205
seconds
> Feb 14 23:15:45 2002 (11544) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1493.861
> seconds
> Feb 14 23:20:46 2002 (11910) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 286.054
seconds
>
> A little help?
>
> TIA,
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] messages stuck and not going out...

[aaron]

I'm running Mailman 2.0.8 on FresBSD 4.5-RELEASE with Python 2.1.1 and
Apache 1.3.22...

None of my lists are sending out messages and qrunner seems to be stuck
attempting to resend the same messages, see below:

following is from ~/logs/post

Feb 14 21:09:14 2002 (10480) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 21:15:22 2002 (10780) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures
Feb 14 21:46:09 2002 (10780) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 21:51:56 2002 (11133) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures
Feb 14 22:16:04 2002 (11133) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 22:22:01 2002 (11313) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures
Feb 14 22:45:44 2002 (11313) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 22:50:51 2002 (11544) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures
Feb 14 23:15:45 2002 (11544) post to list1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=13253,
20 failures
Feb 14 23:20:46 2002 (11910) post to list2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=8367, 7
failures

and the following is from ~/logs/smtp

Feb 14 21:09:14 2002 (10480) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1611.472
seconds
Feb 14 21:15:22 2002 (10780) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 321.519 seconds
Feb 14 21:46:09 2002 (10780) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1847.106
seconds
Feb 14 21:51:56 2002 (11133) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 296.023 seconds
Feb 14 22:16:04 2002 (11133) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1447.830
seconds
Feb 14 22:22:01 2002 (11313) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 301.015 seconds
Feb 14 22:45:44 2002 (11313) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1423.400
seconds
Feb 14 22:50:51 2002 (11544) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 291.205 seconds
Feb 14 23:15:45 2002 (11544) smtp for 20 recips, completed in 1493.861
seconds
Feb 14 23:20:46 2002 (11910) smtp for 7 recips, completed in 286.054 seconds

A little help?

TIA,

Aaron




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[Mailman-Users] qrunner is eating my messages alive

[aaron]

I'm running Mailman 2.0.8 on FresBSD 4.5-RELEASE with Python 2.1.1 and
Apache 1.3.22...

and qrunner is killing most of the messages that the in the ~/qfiles
directory. a typical log entry from ~/logs/qrunner is:

Feb 07 23:29:17 2002 (16588) Unlinking orphaned .db file:
/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/d44a0095efd6c432087f07eaeef2f37fbb4a2c04.db
Feb 07 23:31:02 2002 (16658) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Feb 07 23:32:02 2002 (16687) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Feb 07 23:32:41 2002 (16652) Unlinking orphaned .db file:
/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/ae84a6fb202d6e89c9628aef00c37f033694961e.db
Feb 07 23:34:01 2002 (20606) Unlinking orphaned .db file:
/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/780e56e6a782d380fddb8657e4fa647e6ad45625.db
Feb 07 23:34:01 2002 (20606) Unlinking orphaned .db file:
/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/780e56e6a782d380fddb8657e4fa647e6ad45625.db

and in ~/logs/error i see:

Feb 07 23:40:42 2002 qrunner(20640): Traceback (most recent call last):
Feb 07 23:40:42 2002 qrunner(20640):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 282, in ?
Feb 07 23:40:42 2002 qrunner(20640):  kids = main(lock)
Feb 07 23:40:42 2002 qrunner(20640):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 202, in main
Feb 07 23:40:42 2002 qrunner(20640):  os.unlink(root+'.db')
Feb 07 23:40:42 2002 qrunner(20640): OSError :  [Errno 2] No such file or
directory:
'/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/419298e2e6e9a12ee29a90ac211bef496292350c.db'

so it seems like qrunner is crashing when trying to unlink the files.

the result is that almost no messages are going out over any of my lists.

the strange thing is that all ~/qfiles/*.msg files seem to have
~/qfiles/*.db files... so why does qrunner think the .db files are orphaned?

help?!


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[Mailman-Users] subscribe/unsubscribe date retrieval

[aaron]

Is there anyway to check the date people subscrubed or unsusbcribed from a
list?


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[Mailman-Users] subscribe/unsubscribe date retrieval

[Aaron M Daley]

Is there anyway to check the date people subscrubed or unsusbcribed from
a list?

Aaron M Daley
Free Speech TV
Systems Administrator
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Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug!

[Aaron Nikula]

I checked all the processes and the only ones given to mailman is
"/usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner", so I cleared out the
processes and still get the bug message. I've tried it on 3 different
computers each with different browsers, but I tried it with netscape 4.7 and
it still gives the bug message. And I checked the logs again, and there's
nothing in error, but here's some stuff from the other log files:
tail logs/smtp
Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection
refused')
Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.184 seconds
tail logs/post
Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) post to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=1294, 1 failures
tail logs/smtp-failure
Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)]

Maybe that will help?

-Aaron

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Aaron Nikula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug!


> Check the lock files in ~mailman/locks/
>
> If there are any lock files check the processes and see if they are
actually
> running.  The process is part of the name of the lock file.
> Kill any processes that are frozen and then delete the lock files for
them.
>
> Have you upgraded or changed your browser lately?  This could cause
problems
> when trying to access the Admin pages.
>
> Jon Carnes
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Aaron Nikula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>
>
> > Have you just tried resetting the admin password?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On Wednesday 17 October 2001 11:33 pm, Aaron Nikula wrote:
> > > Hello, I setup mailman 2.0.2 and had it running for a long while. Last
> > > night for no obvious reason, it started giving this error when trying
to
> > > get into admin: "We're sorry, we hit a bug! Mailman experienced a very
> low
> > > level failure and could not even generate a useful traceback for you.
> > > Please report this to the Mailman administrator at this site." I
checked
> > > the error log and it said nothing. So I tried upgrading to 2.0.4,
didn't
> > > help. I tried completely removing the old version, still no go. It is
> > > getting to the admin login page, it's when you login that it gives an
> error
> > > (when the wrong password is entered, it's okay, but doesn't help much
> :).
> > > Does anyone have ideas where I can start troubleshooting this stuff? I
> > > restarted apache, sendmail, etc. And started from a fresh
installation.
> > > Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > > -Aaron
> >
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[Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug!

[Aaron Nikula]

Hello, I setup mailman 2.0.2 and had it running for 
a long while. Last night for no obvious reason, it started giving this error 
when trying to get into admin: "We're sorry, we hit a bug! Mailman experienced a 
very low level failure and could not even generate a useful traceback for you. 
Please report this to the Mailman administrator at this site." I checked the 
error log and it said nothing. So I tried upgrading to 2.0.4, didn't help. 
I tried completely removing the old version, still no go. It is getting to the 
admin login page, it's when you login that it gives an error (when the wrong 
password is entered, it's okay, but doesn't help much :). Does anyone have ideas 
where I can start troubleshooting this stuff? I restarted apache, sendmail, etc. 
And started from a fresh installation. Thanks for any help.
 
-Aaron

[Mailman-Users] looking to run your software

[Joe Aaron Este]

i  own a fairly popular site called wigsalon.com - we sell 
wigs

mailing list size about 10,000  readying for 20,000

i was about to buy a program called mailer mailer

when my son who SQL programs my site in NYC said that you had the best
product but it ran in UNIX or some code or computer  that i did not
have

he said i should get in touch with a company that uses your product

and resells it in a user-friendly format i guess

can you please send me a list of such companies ..if they
exist ???

or give me some advice

thanks



Joe Aaron Este
Internet Director
Paris Boutique Wig
Salon
URL: www.wigsalon.com
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mailman-Users] howto restore list archives, configuration post hardware crash

[Aaron M. Johnson]

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Hi: 

I  received the  following  message  during an  attempt  to restore  a
mailman  installation.   When our  mailing  list  servers' hard  drive
crashed we decided to reinstall the OS from scratch.  This is a Debian
box currently  running mailman debian package version  1.1-6.  I don't
recall which  version was on  the system prior  to the crash.   If its
important I could dig it up.  For  backup of the archives I made a tar
file  of  /var/lib/mailman   and  restored  it  on  top   of  the  new
installation.  That lead to some problems.

Jan 12 05:14:30 hippo postfix/local[1180]: 40FB1B929: to=, 
relay=local, delay=3, status=bounced (Command died with status 1: "/var/lib
/mailman/mail/wrapper post staff". Command output: Traceback (innermost last):   File 
"/var/lib/mailman/scripts/post", line 73, in ? mlist.Post(msg, approved=from
usenet)   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1362, in Post footer = 
self.msg_footer % d)   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py", line 162, 
in DeliverToList cmdproc.write("%d\n" % self.num_spawns) AttributeError: 
num_spawns )

the  error occurs  with both  old lists  and newly  created  ones.  It
occurs  in various  forms  with three  SMTP  clients; sendmail,  exim,
postfix.

Can someone make sense of this  debug output?  I am a novice in python
but would like to learn more.  This has me stumped.

I am pretty sure it has to do with what I unpacked from the tar file.
I am not sure if it was incorrect permissions, file ownership or what
that caused the error.  

Mailman appears to work after purging all configuration files and only
adding new  lists without restore the  old ones.  If  possible I would
like to be  able to restore the old archives,  admin passwords, etc in
an automated fashion.  Tips?

thank you,
aa
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[Mailman-Users] Customizing mailman

[aaron]

Hello,
 
I have a fairly basic question, but I cannot seem 
to find the answers anywhere. I have a customer who is using a mailing 
list and would like to change the confirmation and welcome letters. I 
looked over the administration list and cannot find how to change them. Perhaps 
I am just overlooking it.
 
How might I go about this?
 
Thank you,
Aaron