Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Andrew Buc]

On 14 Apr 2023, at 7:09, John Doherty wrote:

If you want to leave liquidweb entirely, then you will have to have 
the DNS for the domain hosted elsewhere. Fastmail can do that for you 
or you could choose another DNS provider.


I don’t remember whether I got my staxman.net domain (later supplanted 
by my andrewbuc.com domain) first and my Fastmail account second, or 
vice versa. I think vice versa, but it’s been many years. I know I 
didn’t get them at the same time. I might very well have been happy 
havng my domain hosted by Fastmail, had things gone that way. As is, 
I’m happy with my domain hosted by Pair (I’ve already related my 
GoDaddy fiasco) and my Fastmail mailbox.


Another registrar:

https://www.omnis.com

In all honesty, I have no experience with them. But I see that an old 
acquaintance (with whom I’ve lost touch) has had the domain for his 
consulting business with them since around Xmas 1999.


At the risk of belaboring the point, Ken, you have choices.
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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[John Doherty]

On Fri 2023-04-14 04:58 AM MDT -0600,  wrote:

A very naive question: I’m currently using a domain name 
(k...@kenpope.com) for my MailMate mail.  I want to continue to use 
that name when I move to Fastmail.  If I open an account at Fastmail 
with that domain name, won’t it close/end the account at my current 
dedicated server *before* I can transfer my messages (i.e., I can’t 
have both my current *and* my Fastmail accounts under the same 
k...@kenpope.com, can I?)?


But if I open a Fastmail account under a different name (e.g., 
“k...@fastmail.com”), how do I then change my account name at 
Fastmail to k...@kenpope.com?


You will necessarily have an address @fastmail.com although you don't 
have to tell anybody else about it or send mail from it.


You should use fastmail's help docs and if necessary, ask questions of 
their support staff. They've got you covered, they help people do this 
all the time, and from my limited interaction with them, they're really 
good.


That said, here's a little more info and what I can see as the current 
state of things.


When a sending mail server has a message addresed to 
anyth...@kenpope.com, it looks up the MX record for the domain. Right 
now, yours is this:


$ host -t MX kenpope.com
kenpope.com mail is handled by 10 kenpope.com.
$ host -t a kenpope.com
kenpope.com has address 72.52.140.33

So when another mail server has a message addressed to 
anyth...@kenpope.com, it will attempt to deliver it to 72.52.140.33. You 
will need to change this to point to fastmail's incoming servers 
instead.


For example, the MX records for jld3.net are now this:

$ host -t MX jld3.net
jld3.net mail is handled by 20 in2-smtp.messagingengine.com.
jld3.net mail is handled by 10 in1-smtp.messagingengine.com.

And yours will end up looking similar or (probably) identical.

The name servers for your domain are currently:

$ host -t ns kenpope.com
kenpope.com name server ns.liquidweb.com.
kenpope.com name server ns1.liquidweb.com.

So that's where the change will have to be made. There are some other 
decisions to make here that I can't anticipate. For example, 
www.kenpope.com exists and I don't know what you want to do with that or 
when you want to do it.


If you want to leave liquidweb entirely, then you will have to have the 
DNS for the domain hosted elsewhere. Fastmail can do that for you or you 
could choose another DNS provider.


The registrar for kenpope.com is GoDaddy:

$ whois kenpope.com | grep "^Registrar:"
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC

So they control what the name servers for the domain are. If you want to 
change the name servers for kenpope.com from ns.liquidweb.com and 
ns1.liquidweb.com to something else, that's where the change will have 
to be made.


Here's some more info:

Custom domains with Fastmail


Setting up your domain: NS/MX


Adding Fastmail nameservers to GoDaddy


I would encourage you to use fastmail's support. They can walk you 
through this, they'll be happy to answer questions, address any concerns 
you have, etc. They do it all the time and they're good at it.


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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Charlie Clark]

On 14 Apr 2023, at 12:58, Ken Pope wrote:

Thank you for the detailed, helpful instructions on how to move from 
my current dedicated server to Fastmail while continuing to use 
MailMate.


A very naive question: I’m currently using a domain name 
(k...@kenpope.com) for my MailMate mail.  I want to continue to use 
that name when I move to Fastmail.  If I open an account at Fastmail 
with that domain name, won’t it close/end the account at my current 
dedicated server *before* I can transfer my messages (i.e., I can’t 
have both my current *and* my Fastmail accounts under the same 
k...@kenpope.com, can I?)?


E-mails are really just files on the server, so it's perfectly possible 
to move them between k...@kenpope.com and k...@fastmail.com.


You will **always** have a Fastmail user so the migration will normally:

* set up this user account
* migrate the e-mail to this account
* check everything is okay
* migrate the domain and set up the user

In MailMate you can follow this by:

* creating a new account for FastMail as "Ken New"
* checking everything once FastMail has imported the data and your 
machine has synched

* migrate the domain
* edit account settings for "Ken" to point to the FastMail server
* edit account settings for "Ken New" to point to the old server, just 
in case and rename it "Ken Old"

* close the old account
* once you sure everything is okay, delete "Ken Old"

But if I open a Fastmail account under a different name (e.g., 
“k...@fastmail.com”), how do I then change my account name at 
Fastmail to k...@kenpope.com?


That's really just an alias once everything has been done. FastMail says 
it has a migration service but the docs don't seem to be easy to find 
but I'd check that first.


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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Ken Pope]

Thank you for the detailed, helpful instructions on how to move from my 
current dedicated server to Fastmail while continuing to use MailMate.


A very naive question: I’m currently using a domain name 
(k...@kenpope.com) for my MailMate mail.  I want to continue to use that 
name when I move to Fastmail.  If I open an account at Fastmail with 
that domain name, won’t it close/end the account at my current 
dedicated server *before* I can transfer my messages (i.e., I can’t 
have both my current *and* my Fastmail accounts under the same 
k...@kenpope.com, can I?)?


But if I open a Fastmail account under a different name (e.g., 
“k...@fastmail.com”), how do I then change my account name at 
Fastmail to k...@kenpope.com?


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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Charlie Clark]

On 13 Apr 2023, at 22:05, Ken Pope wrote:

What would you recommend as the *easiest* way for someone with little 
computer competence to transfer my current MM store of emails & 
folders into Fastmail so that they will be available should I use the 
web to access my Fastmail account via the web from another computer 
(i.e., not my computer that has MM)?


It depends to some degree on the volume of e-mail you need to move. 
First of all, make sure you have a local backup, either via Time Machine 
(or Carbon Copy) or a dedicated e-mail archive.


The **easiest** approach is probably just to drag the folders in 
MailMate. However, this will involved uploading all the e-mail to the 
new server. So, for any significant volume, server-to-server is the 
better approach. This should also allow you to keep any existing rules, 
etc. for these folders by letting you simply rename servers once the 
move has been completed: you can create a copy of the old account just 
in case.


Two or three of the online review services that review different email 
providers had two general concerns about Fastmail (aside from privacy, 
which I’m aware of): (a) service outages, & (b) occasional lag times 
of 3,4, or even up to 7 hours before a response from their 
customer/tech service.  Have any of you Fastmail users experienced 
either of those?


All mail providers have service outages at some point, but e-mail is 
configured to be tolerant of these. The important thing is whether 
outages are announced or not.


I don't use FastMail myself but have only ever seen positive feedback 
from users that do over many years. Personally, I value the kind of 
feedback you've had here way above any online reviews.


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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Andrew Buc]

On 13 Apr 2023, at 13:05, Ken Pope wrote:

Two or three of the online review services that review different email 
providers had two general concerns about Fastmail (aside from privacy, 
which I’m aware of): (a) service outages, & (b) occasional lag times 
of 3,4, or even up to 7 hours before a response from their 
customer/tech service.  Have any of you Fastmail users experienced 
either of those?




I have a vague memory of a brief service outage or two some time in the 
last couple of years. I had to think hard to even remember. I’ve never 
been dissatisfied with response time on support questions, but then 
I’ve never had a question that needed to be answered quickly.

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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Andrew Luk via mailmate]

Have you tried Fastmail, especially if you are using 1password, it can 
create masked email addresses (disposable email addresses)


I used that for over 2 years, never fail

On 14 Apr 2023, at 6:05, Ken Pope wrote:

Thank you all once again for the continuing stream of helpful info.  I 
carefully researched each of the email service providers you 
suggested, and the one that comes closest to fitting my needs, 
capabilities, and budget is a paid account from Fastmail, which, 
perhaps not coincidentally, was recommended by far more list members 
than any other service.  Along with so many other positives, I 
especially liked it that they provide explicit instructions for 
setting up a MailMate app to work with their server.


A few final (I hope) questions.

What would you recommend as the *easiest* way for someone with little 
computer competence to transfer my current MM store of emails & 
folders into Fastmail so that they will be available should I use the 
web to access my Fastmail account via the web from another computer 
(i.e., not my computer that has MM)?


Two or three of the online review services that review different email 
providers had two general concerns about Fastmail (aside from privacy, 
which I’m aware of): (a) service outages, & (b) occasional lag times 
of 3,4, or even up to 7 hours before a response from their 
customer/tech service.  Have any of you Fastmail users experienced 
either of those?


Again: Thanks for your invaluable information and guidance.

Ken



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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[John Doherty]

On Thu 2023-04-13 02:05 PM MDT -0600,  wrote:

What would you recommend as the *easiest* way for someone with little 
computer competence to transfer my current MM store of emails & 
folders into Fastmail so that they will be available should I use the 
web to access my Fastmail account via the web from another computer 
(i.e., not my computer that has MM)?


Looking back to the start of this thread, you said your mail currently 
resides on a server managed by company X. So you should be able to use 
fastmail's IMAP import feature:




Basically, you tell it where your mail is now, provide the necessary 
username and password, and they'll import it all into your new fastmail 
account.


They say:

  Imports can take a long time, especially if you have a lot of email. 
It's not
  uncommon for imports to take up to 24 hours. You can check the status 
of your
  import at any time by going to the Settings → Migration → Import 
screen.


In my case, though, it was pretty fast, more like an hour or so. I don't 
have a ton of mail, maybe 2 GB or so.


I don't really remember: once I decided on fastmail, I got up on a 
Saturday morning, said to myself, OK today's the day, let's do this, and 
I was done a couple of hours later. The whole process was so easy and 
fast that none of the details left much impression, I guess.


In my case, my mail was on an IMAP server I operated myself. Pretty sure 
I proceeded like this:


(1) signed up for the fastmail account and started the import process
(2) when that was done, I configured MailMate to access the new account

MailMate will sync the new account and download all your mail at this 
point, which may take a while, depending on how much mail you have.


(3) convinced myself that the new account had all my mail, just by 
comparing message counts
(4) everything was fine, so then I deleted the old IMAP account from 
MailMate


At that point, all my mail was still on the old IMAP server, and I could 
always reconfigure that in MailMate if necessary. But everything was 
fine, so then I backed up my old server to a couple of places and shut 
it down one last time.


In your case, you might want to keep your old account active while you 
convince yourself that all your mail is in the new fastmail account. 
Once you've done that, you should be able to cancel the old account, 
which I'm sure will cause your old provider to delete your mail.


Two or three of the online review services that review different email 
providers had two general concerns about Fastmail (aside from privacy, 
which I’m aware of): (a) service outages, & (b) occasional lag times 
of 3,4, or even up to 7 hours before a response from their 
customer/tech service.  Have any of you Fastmail users experienced 
either of those?


Have not had any trouble so far with service outages. I've been using 
fastmail only for about two months or so now.


Have not had any reason to contact their support except for some 
pre-migration questions, and fwiw, I found them to be very responsive 
and helpful.



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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Mike Fisher]

Ken,

My Fastmail experience has been superb for probably close to 10 years.

When I migrated old email in (like Robert Cutler, for the sake of 
stopping running my own mail server in the basement), it was just a 
matter — in Mailmate — of dragging the folders from the old server 
over to the Fastmail server.


After that, everything was available through the Fastmail server (via 
webmail or my iPhone).


Best of luck!


On 13 Apr 2023, at 16:05, Ken Pope wrote:

Thank you all once again for the continuing stream of helpful info.  I 
carefully researched each of the email service providers you 
suggested, and the one that comes closest to fitting my needs, 
capabilities, and budget is a paid account from Fastmail, which, 
perhaps not coincidentally, was recommended by far more list members 
than any other service.  Along with so many other positives, I 
especially liked it that they provide explicit instructions for 
setting up a MailMate app to work with their server.


A few final (I hope) questions.

What would you recommend as the *easiest* way for someone with little 
computer competence to transfer my current MM store of emails & 
folders into Fastmail so that they will be available should I use the 
web to access my Fastmail account via the web from another computer 
(i.e., not my computer that has MM)?


Two or three of the online review services that review different email 
providers had two general concerns about Fastmail (aside from privacy, 
which I’m aware of): (a) service outages, & (b) occasional lag times 
of 3,4, or even up to 7 hours before a response from their 
customer/tech service.  Have any of you Fastmail users experienced 
either of those?


Again: Thanks for your invaluable information and guidance.

Ken



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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Ken Pope]

Thank you all once again for the continuing stream of helpful info.  I 
carefully researched each of the email service providers you suggested, 
and the one that comes closest to fitting my needs, capabilities, and 
budget is a paid account from Fastmail, which, perhaps not 
coincidentally, was recommended by far more list members than any other 
service.  Along with so many other positives, I especially liked it that 
they provide explicit instructions for setting up a MailMate app to work 
with their server.


A few final (I hope) questions.

What would you recommend as the *easiest* way for someone with little 
computer competence to transfer my current MM store of emails & folders 
into Fastmail so that they will be available should I use the web to 
access my Fastmail account via the web from another computer (i.e., not 
my computer that has MM)?


Two or three of the online review services that review different email 
providers had two general concerns about Fastmail (aside from privacy, 
which I’m aware of): (a) service outages, & (b) occasional lag times 
of 3,4, or even up to 7 hours before a response from their customer/tech 
service.  Have any of you Fastmail users experienced either of those?


Again: Thanks for your invaluable information and guidance.

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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Andrew Buc]

On 12 Apr 2023, at 11:25, Maurice Mines wrote:

Hi you  might  try talking to  Hover at 866-731-6556 they due domains 
and  email  boxs together.


When I was shopping for a new domain registrar a couple of years ago 
(before GoDaddy forced my hand, as I related recently), I checked out 
Hover. At least at that time, they offered phone support, but not 
24/7/365.

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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Simon Kaplan (Personal)]

Yep, same.  Shifted to Fastmail (from using Google services) about 18 
months ago, its worked perfectly.  Highly recommend it.


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On 13 Apr 2023, at 5:37, John Doherty wrote:

I switched to fastmail after 15 or 16 years of hosting my own mail 
server.


I've been really happy with them. Migrating all my old mail was a snap 
and happened much more quickly than I expected. They also have 
MailMate-specific setup instructions, so they are MailMate-friendly at 
least to that extent:




I don't remember whether I had to use their instructions or not, the 
whole thing was pretty simple and straightforward.


I'm using their "standard" 30 GB plan. Paying up front for a couple of 
years brought the price down to a little less than $4/month.


Honestly, I should have done something like this years ago. Hosting my 
own mail server cost a lot more and although it was sort of fun and 
educational in its time, that hadn't actually been the case for a long 
time.


So FWIW, happy fastmail customer here. I expect to stick with them for 
a long time.


On Wed 2023-04-12 11:55 AM MDT -0600,  wrote:


*Thanks* for the continued stream of great info.

My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I 
discovered that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver 
what I needed.


Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that 
(a) will accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) 
will allow me to import my current array of emails, & (d) allows 
sufficient storage (e.g., StartMail looks great but has an inflexible 
limit of only 10G storage for all plans).


The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research.  I’d 
appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other 
provider you recommend or warn against.


MailFence
Proton
Fastmail
Thexyz
Scala Hosting
mailbox.org

Thanks as always for your help.

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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Richard Rettke]

I Ken,

Although I still have some address’s on Gmail (only because I have not 
had time to move them all) I cannot speak highly enough of Fastmail.


The only issue I have with Fastmail is that I have always been a heavy 
user of TAGS in MailMate. Fastmail has a limit on how many tags (i.e. 
how many tagged emails) it allowed. They may have fixed this as it was a 
couple years ago I ran into it and I ultimately deprecated my use of 
Tags. Beyond that, Fastmail is tops in my book.


On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:55, Ken Pope ken-at-kenpope.com 
|Mailmate/RER>Vendor>Software>Freron Software| wrote:



*Thanks* for the continued stream of great info.

My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I 
discovered that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver 
what I needed.


Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) 
will accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will 
allow me to import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient 
storage (e.g., StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of 
only 10G storage for all plans).


The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research.  I’d 
appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other 
provider you recommend or warn against.


MailFence
Proton
Fastmail
Thexyz
Scala Hosting
mailbox.org

Thanks as always for your help.

Ken




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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Robert Cutler]

I concur with John completely.

I had run my own mail server since 1994-95 — starting on a Mac SE (!), then for 
about 12-13 years on a Mac Quadra 950, and finally on an Xserve starting 
sometime around 2007-2008.

While it was a lot of fun and didn’t take a lot of my time to administer once 
everything was setup, the combination of new email standards being enforced 
(Google would only intermittently accept messages from my server), the mail 
server software not keeping up with them (it stopped being updated at least 10 
years ago), and my wanting to reduce my electric bill led me to switch to 
Fastmail last December.

Couldn’t be happier.  It all just works, and it was extremely easy to move all 
the email over without loss.

And the small monthly cost for Fastmail is more than offset by the reduction in 
my electric bill.

(I have no connection with Fastmail except as a satisfied customer…)


On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:37, John Doherty wrote:

> I switched to fastmail after 15 or 16 years of hosting my own mail server.
>
> I've been really happy with them. Migrating all my old mail was a snap and 
> happened much more quickly than I expected. They also have MailMate-specific 
> setup instructions, so they are MailMate-friendly at least to that extent:
>
> 
>
> I don't remember whether I had to use their instructions or not, the whole 
> thing was pretty simple and straightforward.
>
> I'm using their "standard" 30 GB plan. Paying up front for a couple of years 
> brought the price down to a little less than $4/month.
>
> Honestly, I should have done something like this years ago. Hosting my own 
> mail server cost a lot more and although it was sort of fun and educational 
> in its time, that hadn't actually been the case for a long time.
>
> So FWIW, happy fastmail customer here. I expect to stick with them for a long 
> time.
>
> On Wed 2023-04-12 11:55 AM MDT -0600,  wrote:
>
>> *Thanks* for the continued stream of great info.
>>
>> My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I discovered 
>> that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver what I needed.
>>
>> Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) will 
>> accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will allow me to 
>> import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient storage (e.g., 
>> StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of only 10G storage for 
>> all plans).
>>
>> The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research.  I’d 
>> appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other provider 
>> you recommend or warn against.
>>
>> MailFence
>> Proton
>> Fastmail
>> Thexyz
>> Scala Hosting
>> mailbox.org
>>
>> Thanks as always for your help.
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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Henry Seiden]

Hi Ken,

You can check out my company for domains and email. I do provide large 
and small domains with hosting service. Let me know off list. I also use 
M-M and appreciate their product offering.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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On 12 Apr 2023, at 13:55, Ken Pope wrote:


*Thanks* for the continued stream of great info.

My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I 
discovered that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver 
what I needed.


Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) 
will accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will 
allow me to import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient 
storage (e.g., StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of 
only 10G storage for all plans).


The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research.  I’d 
appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other 
provider you recommend or warn against.


MailFence
Proton
Fastmail
Thexyz
Scala Hosting
mailbox.org

Thanks as always for your help.

Ken



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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[John Doherty]

I switched to fastmail after 15 or 16 years of hosting my own mail 
server.


I've been really happy with them. Migrating all my old mail was a snap 
and happened much more quickly than I expected. They also have 
MailMate-specific setup instructions, so they are MailMate-friendly at 
least to that extent:




I don't remember whether I had to use their instructions or not, the 
whole thing was pretty simple and straightforward.


I'm using their "standard" 30 GB plan. Paying up front for a couple of 
years brought the price down to a little less than $4/month.


Honestly, I should have done something like this years ago. Hosting my 
own mail server cost a lot more and although it was sort of fun and 
educational in its time, that hadn't actually been the case for a long 
time.


So FWIW, happy fastmail customer here. I expect to stick with them for a 
long time.


On Wed 2023-04-12 11:55 AM MDT -0600,  wrote:


*Thanks* for the continued stream of great info.

My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I 
discovered that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver 
what I needed.


Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) 
will accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will 
allow me to import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient 
storage (e.g., StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of 
only 10G storage for all plans).


The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research.  I’d 
appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other 
provider you recommend or warn against.


MailFence
Proton
Fastmail
Thexyz
Scala Hosting
mailbox.org

Thanks as always for your help.

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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Maurice Mines]

Hi you  might  try talking to  Hover at 866-731-6556 they due domains and  
email  boxs together.  For one yearllly price. I hope that  heps you  and  enny 
one  els who may  need this info.  

Sent from my iPhone. 
Email, maur...@maurice-amines.com
  text number 661-868-9647.
Fox, no 661-449-3746.


First, vice president, national Federation of the blind of California Deafblind 
 division.
Vice President national Federation of the blind of California Bakersfield 
chapter.
amateur radio, call sign, kd0iko.

> On Apr 12, 2023, at 18:08, John Cooper  wrote:
> 
> Ken Pope wrote (at 10:55 AM on Wednesday, April 12, 2023):
> 
>> Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) will 
>> accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will allow me to 
>> import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient storage (e.g., 
>> StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of only 10G storage for 
>> all plans).
>> 
>> I’d appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other 
>> provider you recommend or warn against.
> 
> I've been using Fastmail since 2015, when they seamlessly absorbed Pobox, my 
> provider since 1998. Their Mailstore hosted service provides up to 50 GB. 
> I've never experienced noticeable downtime, their technical support is prompt 
> and helpful, and basically, I've never encountered any significant problems 
> whatsoever.
> 
> I have my own domain name, and one of the advantages is that I can instantly 
> generate any custom email address within that domain. I use this to assign 
> every business or nonprofit entity with whom I correspond its own email 
> address, which makes identifying where a spammer got my address a snap. (It's 
> also useful with mailing lists.) I also make extensive use of their 
> server-side filtering functionality, which pre-sorts my email into my various 
> IMAP mailboxes. This is extremely useful when I have to access my email on 
> the Web or on a computer I don't own--that is, when I don't have MailMate. 
> Finally, I've found their user-configurable spam filtering to be more than 
> adequate for my needs; no need for SpamSieve or another additional product.
> 
> In case you're still wondering, I recommend them. :)
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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Seamus Phillips]

Hi Ken,

I missed you previous thread, but I would recommend Migadu.

Generous storage, and doesn’t limit on addresses/mailboxes.

Bills itself as standards based IMAP, and prefers plain text email (like us 
mailmate users!). Their support is great too.

I moved across 100GB using IMAPsync (command line migration tool). Worked 
perfectly.

Hope that helps.

Seamus

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> On 12 Apr 2023, at 18:55, Ken Pope  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for the continued stream of great info.
> 
> My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I discovered 
> that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver what I needed.
> 
> Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) will 
> accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will allow me to 
> import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient storage (e.g., 
> StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of only 10G storage for all 
> plans).
> 
> The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research. I’d appreciate 
> your comments about any of the following or any other provider you recommend 
> or warn against.
> 
> MailFence
> Proton
> Fastmail
> Thexyz
> Scala Hosting
> mailbox.org
> 
> Thanks as always for your help.
> 
> Ken
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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[John Cooper]

Ken Pope wrote (at 10:55 AM on Wednesday, April 12, 2023):

> Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) will 
> accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will allow me to 
> import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient storage (e.g., 
> StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of only 10G storage for all 
> plans).
>
> I’d appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other provider 
> you recommend or warn against.

I've been using Fastmail since 2015, when they seamlessly absorbed Pobox, my 
provider since 1998. Their Mailstore hosted service provides up to 50 GB. I've 
never experienced noticeable downtime, their technical support is prompt and 
helpful, and basically, I've never encountered any significant problems 
whatsoever.

I have my own domain name, and one of the advantages is that I can instantly 
generate any custom email address within that domain. I use this to assign 
every business or nonprofit entity with whom I correspond its own email 
address, which makes identifying where a spammer got my address a snap. (It's 
also useful with mailing lists.) I also make extensive use of their server-side 
filtering functionality, which pre-sorts my email into my various IMAP 
mailboxes. This is extremely useful when I have to access my email on the Web 
or on a computer I don't own--that is, when I don't have MailMate. Finally, 
I've found their user-configurable spam filtering to be more than adequate for 
my needs; no need for SpamSieve or another additional product.

In case you're still wondering, I recommend them. :)
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[MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Ken Pope]

*Thanks* for the continued stream of great info.

My plan to move to a much cheaper dedicated server crashed when I 
discovered that a much cheaper dedicated server couldn’t deliver what 
I needed.


Part of Plan B includes finding a good, secure email provider that (a) 
will accept my domain name, (b) plays well with Mail Mate, (c) will 
allow me to import my current array of emails, & (d) allows sufficient 
storage (e.g., StartMail looks great but has an inflexible limit of only 
10G storage for all plans).


The following prospects made the initial cuts of my research.  I’d 
appreciate your comments about any of the following or any other 
provider you recommend or warn against.


MailFence
Proton
Fastmail
Thexyz
Scala Hosting
mailbox.org

Thanks as always for your help.

Ken
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