Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
On Wed 11/Dec/2019 00:52:43 +0100 Stuart Henderson via mailop wrote: > If not, there are other programs which act as stand-alone delivery agents > - the ones I know of are maildrop (which is normally used with Courier mail > server but can also work standalone) Ah, sure. Courier-MTA offers a complete stack, including UUCP. Best Ale -- ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
I'm actually 19 so I largely use it for nostalgia's sake. Yes. I'm 19 and I'm a private email operator. And I've used UUCP. Part of it is to get around SMTP blocks, part of it is to, as I said, entertain nostalgia. I don't really know. I guess I am fond of bangpaths. On 19-12-07 20 h 34, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: On 2019-12-06 09:17:56 (-0800), John Levine via mailop wrote: In article <22015da3-552b-2320-c86e-d16d1d13b...@mgm51.com> you write: Perhaps is the need for UUCP support had been mentioned in the email's subject and not a couple emails later... Twenty years ago all the MTAs supported uucp, but these days I would be surprised if any remaining uucp code was other than cruft that nobody had bothered to delete. If you really want uucp support, you're going to have to do some gateway programming. uucp was a a thing of wonder when the earth was young and Telebit modems were state of the art, but today? really? I'd be interested in why he's still using uucp. I wouldn't be surprised if this is in the category of "it's been working for decades, why would I change it now?!". I'd also be interested in the full story though. I always enjoy tales from the crypts. :-) Philip ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
Well I am using it over the internet. And it's strictly for nostalgia's sake, as well as future expansion to utilitarian uses where email has to be sent from a host on a dynamic IP. On 19-12-06 10 h 08, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote: On 6 Dec 2019, at 9:17, John Levine via mailop wrote: I'd be interested in why he's still using uucp. +1 ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
OK, thanks. I will look into those, but it seems I am not using them as they were designed to be used. On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:52:43 -0500, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2019/12/10 08:31, John Covici via mailop wrote: > > So, what would be an appropriate replacement for procmail, I think in > > my distro its a hard dependency of sendmail, but maybe there is > > something better? > > If you use software which already implements Sieve (Dovecot and Cyrus > are probably the most common), it's often convenient to just use that. > > If not, there are other programs which act as stand-alone delivery agents > - the ones I know of are maildrop (which is normally used with Courier mail > server but can also work standalone), and fdm (which is mostly used as a > pop3/imap fetcher but you can also configure an "stdin" account type > which you can use as a standard delivery agent). > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
On 2019/12/10 08:31, John Covici via mailop wrote: > So, what would be an appropriate replacement for procmail, I think in > my distro its a hard dependency of sendmail, but maybe there is > something better? If you use software which already implements Sieve (Dovecot and Cyrus are probably the most common), it's often convenient to just use that. If not, there are other programs which act as stand-alone delivery agents - the ones I know of are maildrop (which is normally used with Courier mail server but can also work standalone), and fdm (which is mostly used as a pop3/imap fetcher but you can also configure an "stdin" account type which you can use as a standard delivery agent). ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
So, what would be an appropriate replacement for procmail, I think in my distro its a hard dependency of sendmail, but maybe there is something better? On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 02:08:10 -0500, Stuart Henderson via mailop wrote: > > On 2019/12/09 14:16, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > Well... I'd rather do such things in procmail > > Be aware, procmail's last maintainer said, "the code is not safe and > should not be used as a basis for any further work". > > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports=141634350915839=2 > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
On 2019/12/09 14:16, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Well... I'd rather do such things in procmail Be aware, procmail's last maintainer said, "the code is not safe and should not be used as a basis for any further work". https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports=141634350915839=2 ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
When I evaluated available email software for a medium size installation a
few years ago I did not find anything that would cater all our needs, so I
wrote my own stack (MTA + MX + IMAP/POP3). Currently it runs in high
availability (any server can go down any time without affecting access to
stored mail) cluster of 20 servers (most being used in a sharded and
replicated db cluster). There are not so many users, slightly over 10k and
5+TB of emails, so there's a lot more room to grow. Even though the current
setup is much larger then it all started from not finding a suitable MTA
and once I'd built my own it kind ow grew from that.
The problems I had were mostly related to IP blocking. If you have lots of
users then some of the accounts get taken over from time to time and start
blasting out spam. Once you detect and block these users you already might
be listed in some DNSBL. You can ask for a delisting but it is going to
take some time and during that window your mail might not be accepted. So
the MTA we built uses similar IP rotation techniques, like for example,
PowerMTA. You assign a list of IPs to a server, set weights for each IP and
set up zones for different rules. When it is detected that an IP starts
getting DNSBL error responses from MXs, then this IP is temporarily removed
from the IP pool and a flag is raised for admins who can then start
evaluating the situation. As everything is automatic and you still have IPs
left that are not blacklisted (yet), then there is time for the admins to
react. Ie. if an IP gets listed in the middle of the night, then the admins
to not have to get up (assuming though that the account responsible was
also suspended on our side, otherwise your other IPs end up in lists as
well).
Anyway, the MTA is open source and available here:
https://github.com/zone-eu/zone-mta
And the rest of the mail stack here: https://github.com/nodemailer/wildduck
Regards,
Andris
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:24 PM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
wrote:
> Dnia 9.12.2019 o godz. 12:29:56 Steven Champeon via mailop pisze:
> >
> > I'm still running most of the 14K lines of custom m4 sendmail rulesets I
> > wrote back before I knew any better, mostly to deal with specific
> > ratware signatures.
> [...]
> > # f.last_
> > # e.g. "First M. Last"
> > # e.g. "First Last"
> > KEL_FirstMLastZZ05 regex -f -a_SPAMSIGN_ "[A-Z]([a-z]+)\ [A-Z]*\.*\
> *[A-Z]([a-z
> > \-]+[A-Z]*[a-z]*)"\ <[a-z].[a-z]\2_[a-z]{2}@
>
> Well... I'd rather do such things in procmail (and in fact I did and still
> do - while today I'm using SpamAssassin, a custom procmail rule set is
> called afterwards, which does the final decision - it's probably as old as
> your sendmail rules).
>
> I did it in procmail just because it was the first tool I learned to use
> for
> mail filtering, and because (after many modifications of course) it still
> works, I keep it :)
>
> Now my procmail runs at mail delivery stage, but while I was still using
> sendmail, I was using this procmail rule set as a filter "inside" sendmail
> (setup similar to after-queue filtering in Postfix, ie. message is
> delivered
> to procmail filter and if it passes through, /usr/sbin/sendmail is called
> to
> re-inject it into the queue - although sendmail does not support this setup
> directly as Postfix does, and it requires some rule tweaking to avoid
> getting stuck in the loop with procmail being called over and over again
> ;))
>
> But the point is, there are probably quite a lot of us who still run old
> custom made hacks in their mail systems :)
> --
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Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
Dnia 9.12.2019 o godz. 12:29:56 Steven Champeon via mailop pisze:
>
> I'm still running most of the 14K lines of custom m4 sendmail rulesets I
> wrote back before I knew any better, mostly to deal with specific
> ratware signatures.
[...]
> # f.last_
> # e.g. "First M. Last"
> # e.g. "First Last"
> KEL_FirstMLastZZ05 regex -f -a_SPAMSIGN_ "[A-Z]([a-z]+)\ [A-Z]*\.*\
> *[A-Z]([a-z
> \-]+[A-Z]*[a-z]*)"\ <[a-z].[a-z]\2_[a-z]{2}@
Well... I'd rather do such things in procmail (and in fact I did and still
do - while today I'm using SpamAssassin, a custom procmail rule set is
called afterwards, which does the final decision - it's probably as old as
your sendmail rules).
I did it in procmail just because it was the first tool I learned to use for
mail filtering, and because (after many modifications of course) it still
works, I keep it :)
Now my procmail runs at mail delivery stage, but while I was still using
sendmail, I was using this procmail rule set as a filter "inside" sendmail
(setup similar to after-queue filtering in Postfix, ie. message is delivered
to procmail filter and if it passes through, /usr/sbin/sendmail is called to
re-inject it into the queue - although sendmail does not support this setup
directly as Postfix does, and it requires some rule tweaking to avoid
getting stuck in the loop with procmail being called over and over again ;))
But the point is, there are probably quite a lot of us who still run old
custom made hacks in their mail systems :)
--
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Jaroslaw Rafa
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Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
on Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 12:10:54AM +, Steve Holdoway via mailop wrote:
> Still on sendmail... not wasting those 10's of thousands of hours!
At the risk of adding to a not-even-close-to-ops-related thread,
Sing it, brother!
I'm still running most of the 14K lines of custom m4 sendmail rulesets I
wrote back before I knew any better, mostly to deal with specific
ratware signatures.
In short, though, I've found if you want complete customizability and
are not afraid to get your hands dirty sendmail is hard to beat. Postfix
is crazy flexible in terms of knobs you can turn, as is exim, and I hear
it is possible to make the latter two do more than I could ever figure
out how to do, but I always found them more rigid than sendmail, which
is a clear sign of confirmation bias on my part, but hey. Where else do
you get to do a fifty-four member set of defs to deal with an insanely
particular set of From: header checks like this, AND get to do it in m4?
# f.last_
# e.g. "First M. Last"
# e.g. "First Last"
KEL_FirstMLastZZ05 regex -f -a_SPAMSIGN_ "[A-Z]([a-z]+)\ [A-Z]*\.*\ *[A-Z]([a-z
\-]+[A-Z]*[a-z]*)"\ <[a-z].[a-z]\2_[a-z]{2}@
In over fifteen years of running this set (dealt with randomized stuff
like "Steven J. Champeon" ) I had one FP
on someone whose email address ended in _md, because, doctor.
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On 2019-12-06 09:17:56 (-0800), John Levine via mailop wrote: In article <22015da3-552b-2320-c86e-d16d1d13b...@mgm51.com> you write: Perhaps is the need for UUCP support had been mentioned in the email's subject and not a couple emails later... Twenty years ago all the MTAs supported uucp, but these days I would be surprised if any remaining uucp code was other than cruft that nobody had bothered to delete. If you really want uucp support, you're going to have to do some gateway programming. uucp was a a thing of wonder when the earth was young and Telebit modems were state of the art, but today? really? I'd be interested in why he's still using uucp. I wouldn't be surprised if this is in the category of "it's been working for decades, why would I change it now?!". I'd also be interested in the full story though. I always enjoy tales from the crypts. :-) Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
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* Mike via mailop : > On 12/5/2019 7:26 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: > > [snip] > > > One of my requirements is that the MTA be capable of punting emails that > > are destined for a UUCP host (either as defined in a forwarding file, or > > explicitly named with a bangpath) into Unix-to-Unix copy. > > [snip] > > Perhaps is the need for UUCP support had been mentioned in the email's > subject and not a couple emails later... For the books: Postfix supports UUCP to some extend. See also: http://www.postfix.org/UUCP_README.html p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer, Wolfgang Stief Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
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Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
In article <22015da3-552b-2320-c86e-d16d1d13b...@mgm51.com> you write: >Perhaps is the need for UUCP support had been mentioned in the email's >subject and not a couple emails later... Twenty years ago all the MTAs supported uucp, but these days I would be surprised if any remaining uucp code was other than cruft that nobody had bothered to delete. If you really want uucp support, you're going to have to do some gateway programming. uucp was a a thing of wonder when the earth was young and Telebit modems were state of the art, but today? really? I'd be interested in why he's still using uucp. R's, John ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
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On 12/5/2019 7:26 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: > [snip] > > One of my requirements is that the MTA be capable of punting emails that > are destined for a UUCP host (either as defined in a forwarding file, or > explicitly named with a bangpath) into Unix-to-Unix copy. > [snip] Perhaps is the need for UUCP support had been mentioned in the email's subject and not a couple emails later... ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
On 12/5/19 7:26 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: One of my requirements is that the MTA be capable of punting emails that are destined for a UUCP host (either as defined in a forwarding file, or explicitly named with a bangpath) into Unix-to-Unix copy. Postfix, which I recently developed an allergy to, doesn't even have that (though it does have partial UUCP support, in that it can punt emails to a Unix-to-Unix copy), but I settled because it was easy to configure on the single host I have been using an MTA on to date. If you need UUCP support, I wonder if MMDF is still floating around :-) -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why. ... unknown ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
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On 12/5/19 7:20 PM, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: On 2019-12-05 15:36:02 (-0800), Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: The subject says it all. Okay, I'll bite: what's wrong with Postfix? I've been using it since before it was called Postfix and "it works for me". Same here, though it was called Postfix when I started using it (which was also a long time ago). Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why. ... unknown ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
joe> The O'Reilly book on UUCP has a bear on the front for a reason. Yeah. A radioactive zombie apocalypse bear. ;) (Scars from having 3000+ UUCP customers and having to process UUCP maps and gatewaying to SMTP, BITNET and probably something else I've finally mercifully forgotten...) We gave a copy of the nutshell book to every customer. For all the good it did... ;) ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
The O'Reilly book on UUCP has a bear on the front for a reason. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474 On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 4:42 PM Large Hadron Collider via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Mike from LinuxMagic emailed me out of band suggesting his company's own > solution, which I found somewhat inappropriate. Trouble is, I actually > forgot to enumerate my installation size and peculiar requirements. > > My installation size is personal and friends, across multiple sites. > Mailboxes are not going to be redundant across sites - every site has > separate userbases. > > One of my requirements is that the MTA be capable of punting emails that > are destined for a UUCP host (either as defined in a forwarding file, or > explicitly named with a bangpath) into Unix-to-Unix copy. Postfix, which > I recently developed an allergy to, doesn't even have that (though it > does have partial UUCP support, in that it can punt emails to a > Unix-to-Unix copy), but I settled because it was easy to configure on > the single host I have been using an MTA on to date. > > I will not need assistance in setup if documentation is clear and concise. > > On 19-12-05 15 h 53, Brielle via mailop wrote: > > I use Exim, and have been for a lng time. The multi-file config > > package in Debian is quite nice and makes it easy to configure and > > customize. > > > > > > On 12/5/2019 4:36 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: > >> The subject says it all. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> mailop mailing list > >> mailop@mailop.org > >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > > > > > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
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Agree with Suresh. I've been an admin of a global 30k user, 82 host Domino platform for the last five years. I'm just now able to drive a wooden stake into the heart of it since we've been acquired by a larger firm on Exchange. How I would have loved any of the classic sendmail, postfix, exim MTA's. The saving grace was that I had a cluster of Proofpoints (which are sendmail based) in front of them. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474 On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 4:25 PM Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: > On 2019-12-05 15:36:02 (-0800), Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: > >The subject says it all. > > Okay, I'll bite: what's wrong with Postfix? > > I've been using it since before it was called Postfix and "it works for > me". > > Philip > > -- > Philip Paeps > Senior Reality Engineer > Alternative Enterprises > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
Mike from LinuxMagic emailed me out of band suggesting his company's own solution, which I found somewhat inappropriate. Trouble is, I actually forgot to enumerate my installation size and peculiar requirements. My installation size is personal and friends, across multiple sites. Mailboxes are not going to be redundant across sites - every site has separate userbases. One of my requirements is that the MTA be capable of punting emails that are destined for a UUCP host (either as defined in a forwarding file, or explicitly named with a bangpath) into Unix-to-Unix copy. Postfix, which I recently developed an allergy to, doesn't even have that (though it does have partial UUCP support, in that it can punt emails to a Unix-to-Unix copy), but I settled because it was easy to configure on the single host I have been using an MTA on to date. I will not need assistance in setup if documentation is clear and concise. On 19-12-05 15 h 53, Brielle via mailop wrote: I use Exim, and have been for a lng time. The multi-file config package in Debian is quite nice and makes it easy to configure and customize. On 12/5/2019 4:36 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: The subject says it all. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
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Is sendmail going to be able to handle peculiar mixed Internet/Unix-to-Unix-Copy installations? Exim is apparently not able to do this satisfactorily, and Postfix (which I have been using; the antihistamines ARE working (-; ) isn't so good with bangpaths (despite being very compatible with mixed installations) mostly owing to a total lack (in my installation) of an rmail program (so I had to jank sendmail into place as the rmail program). On 19-12-05 16 h 14, Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop wrote: I can recommend sendmail. Or Lotus Domino. Either will work as an mta but more importantly they’ll cure you of your postfix allergy asap. That said I use Exim too, try it by all means - it is quite nice plus you don’t need to switch to Debian for it or use Debians rather idiosyncratic multifile config either --srs *From:* mailop on behalf of Brielle via mailop *Sent:* Friday, December 6, 2019 5:30 AM *To:* mailop@mailop.org *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix. I use Exim, and have been for a lng time. The multi-file config package in Debian is quite nice and makes it easy to configure and customize. On 12/5/2019 4:36 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: > The subject says it all. > > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
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On 2019-12-05 15:36:02 (-0800), Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: The subject says it all. Okay, I'll bite: what's wrong with Postfix? I've been using it since before it was called Postfix and "it works for me". Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
I can recommend sendmail. Or Lotus Domino. Either will work as an mta but more importantly they’ll cure you of your postfix allergy asap. That said I use Exim too, try it by all means - it is quite nice plus you don’t need to switch to Debian for it or use Debians rather idiosyncratic multifile config either --srs From: mailop on behalf of Brielle via mailop Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:30 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix. I use Exim, and have been for a lng time. The multi-file config package in Debian is quite nice and makes it easy to configure and customize. On 12/5/2019 4:36 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: > The subject says it all. > > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
Still on sendmail... not wasting those 10's of thousands of hours! December 6, 2019 1:03 PM, "Brielle via mailop" wrote: > I use Exim, and have been for a lng time. The multi-file config package > in Debian is quite nice > and makes it easy to configure and customize. > > On 12/5/2019 4:36 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: > >> The subject says it all. >>> ___ >> mailop mailing list >> mailop@mailop.org >> https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > > -- Brielle Bruns > The Summit Open Source Development Group > http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org > > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.
I use Exim, and have been for a lng time. The multi-file config package in Debian is quite nice and makes it easy to configure and customize. On 12/5/2019 4:36 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: The subject says it all. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
