[MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps

2010-04-14 Thread Alfred Moldovan 
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I just had the occasion to compare the Lafrerei Salamanca 1548 Holy Land, to
the Lafreri Camacio 1568 (#3 Sotheby London Auction 5/6/2010). Except for
the "waves" in the  Mediterranean, they are almost exactly the same. Did
Camacio copy Salamanca or even use the same plate? Anybody have any
information?  AM

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RE: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps

2010-04-14 Thread Alfred Moldovan 
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I have just examined the two maps on-line side by side on two screens and
there is no question that the Camacio 1568 (273mm X 491mm) is a second state
of the Salamanca 1548 (261mm X 510mm). Has anyone commented on this in any
publication? AM

Alfred Moldovan, MD
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New York, NY 10025
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I just had the occasion to compare the Lafrerei Salamanca 1548 Holy Land, to
the Lafreri Camacio 1568 (#3 Sotheby London Auction 5/6/2010). Except for
the "waves" in the  Mediterranean, they are almost exactly the same. Did
Camacio copy Salamanca or even use the same plate? Anybody have any
information?  AM

Alfred Moldovan, MD
444 Central Park West
New York, NY 10025
Tel. 212.865.2828
Fax: 212.865.3111


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RE: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps

2010-04-14 Thread Cook, Andrew 
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Usually better to posit that the impression you have represents 'a later
state' rather than 'a second state' (or, worse, 'the second state') of
the plate, unless you know for a fact that there was no additional
interference by an engraver, resulting in an intermediate state, between
the states you are comparing.  Unless, of course, you're using 'second'
in the rigid Latin sense of 'secundus' = 'following'.
Curious, too, that the plate seems to have become taller and narrower
(or wider and shorter) over time.  Or is it just different damping and
shrinkage of paper?  What did you measure, please? 

 
Andrew S Cook PhD FRHistS FRSA 
Map Archivist, India Office Records
Asia, Pacific & Africa Collections
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Behalf Of Alfred Moldovan
Sent: 14 April 2010 10:26
To: 'Discussion group for map history'
Cc: Rubin Ayelet; hgol...@terrapartners.com
Subject: RE: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps

I have just examined the two maps on-line side by side on two screens
and
there is no question that the Camacio 1568 (273mm X 491mm) is a second
state
of the Salamanca 1548 (261mm X 510mm). Has anyone commented on this in
any
publication? AM

Alfred Moldovan, MD
444 Central Park West
New York, NY 10025
Tel. 212.865.2828
Fax: 212.865.3111

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Of Alfred Moldovan
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To: maph...@geog.uu.nl
Subject: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps

I just had the occasion to compare the Lafrerei Salamanca 1548 Holy
Land, to
the Lafreri Camacio 1568 (#3 Sotheby London Auction 5/6/2010). Except
for
the "waves" in the  Mediterranean, they are almost exactly the same. Did
Camacio copy Salamanca or even use the same plate? Anybody have any
information?  AM

Alfred Moldovan, MD
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New York, NY 10025
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Fax: 212.865.3111

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RE: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps

2010-04-14 Thread Alfred Moldovan 
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I stand corrected. "Later State" is more accurate. The sizes are from the
descriptions in the sources. There is no indication as to how the
measurements were made. Do you have access to either of the maps? I have
looked at my copy of the Salamanca and compared it to the Sotheby catalogue
photo of the Camocio and that is how I came to my conclusion that the
Camocio is a later state rather than a simple copy. I don't know how one
makes the differential. Interestingly, in going through my Maphist
correspondence I found a posting I had made Mon Sep 21 23:05:34 CEST 2009 ??
"Has anyone noted that the 1500 Anonymous Holy Land map listed as #67 in the
Lafreri Atlas in the Bibliotheca Nazionale Marciana is almost exactly like
the later 1548 Rome Holy Land map by Salamanca?" Unfortunately I can't find
on-line the Anonymous Holy Land map that I referred to.  AM 

Alfred Moldovan, MD
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New York, NY 10025
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Usually better to posit that the impression you have represents 'a later
state' rather than 'a second state' (or, worse, 'the second state') of
the plate, unless you know for a fact that there was no additional
interference by an engraver, resulting in an intermediate state, between
the states you are comparing.  Unless, of course, you're using 'second'
in the rigid Latin sense of 'secundus' = 'following'.
Curious, too, that the plate seems to have become taller and narrower
(or wider and shorter) over time.  Or is it just different damping and
shrinkage of paper?  What did you measure, please? 

 
Andrew S Cook PhD FRHistS FRSA 
Map Archivist, India Office Records
Asia, Pacific & Africa Collections
T  +44 (0) 20 7412 7828
F  +44 (0) 20 7412 7641
The British Library
96 Euston Road
London NW1 2DB
www.bl.uk


-Original Message-
From: maphist-boun...@geo.uu.nl [mailto:maphist-boun...@geo.uu.nl] On
Behalf Of Alfred Moldovan
Sent: 14 April 2010 10:26
To: 'Discussion group for map history'
Cc: Rubin Ayelet; hgol...@terrapartners.com
Subject: RE: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps

I have just examined the two maps on-line side by side on two screens
and
there is no question that the Camacio 1568 (273mm X 491mm) is a second
state
of the Salamanca 1548 (261mm X 510mm). Has anyone commented on this in
any
publication? AM

Alfred Moldovan, MD
444 Central Park West
New York, NY 10025
Tel. 212.865.2828
Fax: 212.865.3111

-Original Message-
From: maphist-boun...@geo.uu.nl [mailto:maphist-boun...@geo.uu.nl] On
Behalf
Of Alfred Moldovan
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:49 AM
To: maph...@geog.uu.nl
Subject: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps

I just had the occasion to compare the Lafrerei Salamanca 1548 Holy
Land, to
the Lafreri Camacio 1568 (#3 Sotheby London Auction 5/6/2010). Except
for
the "waves" in the  Mediterranean, they are almost exactly the same. Did
Camacio copy Salamanca or even use the same plate? Anybody have any
information?  AM

Alfred Moldovan, MD
444 Central Park West
New York, NY 10025
Tel. 212.865.2828
Fax: 212.865.3111

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[MapHist] Winchester wall map

2010-04-14 Thread Nick Millea 
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Dear All,

Apologies for cross-posting.

Please excuse this plug for a rather splendid map product

A number of map collections may well be interested in the
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inchester-Historic-wall-maps---small


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With best wishes,
Nick

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[MapHist] In The Portolan, Issue 77: Early American Postal Mapping - Apianus Map of 1520 - Pos t-WW1 Cartography - Maps on Clocks - Maps in a Sh akespeare Library - Waldseemüller - Mediterranean

2010-04-14 Thread Thomas Sander 
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This thrice-yearly journal with articles on maps, the history of
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“Mapping the Footsteps of the Apostle Paul”   (Reviewer:  Bert Johnson)

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[MapHist] FW: Uk Independent - Maps will always have mileage [Or: OS versus Google]

2010-04-14 Thread Francis Herbert 
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First: to 'MAPS-L'; second: to 'Lis-maps' (but copied to 'MapHist'):-

The substance of 'The Independent' (UK) internet piece, as per URL
supplied in Tracey P. Lauriault's posting below, differs from the hard
copy version I saw over my early morning coffee (also today, Wed. 14th).


Those with access to the differently-illustrate article 'Mapping the
future' by the same Jerry Brotton in the section 'Independent Life',
spread generously over pp.8-9, will still discover - IMHO - that it's
virtually all an argument about Ordnance Survey [of Great Britain]
versus Google [Earth]. And one colored image - not on the earlier
posting's URL - is of "a globe [sic] from Google Earth" (i.e.
approximately 2/3 of a sphere) centered approximately on Dublin,
Republic of Ireland (not Georgia USA, where I once had a coffee stop en
route to SHD's Annual Meeting in Savannah). It cannot but fail to
incidentally remind some of us of the similar 2/3 of a sphere map to
illustrate the article 'Most of the world is at war' in 'The War Weekly
incorporating 'War Pictorial'' (London), issue no.13, 19 January 1940,
p.397. This map is centered approximately on Batum, and its total extent
is roughly the Andes - Alaska - New Zealand - Cape of Good Hope. (What
amazing trivia can be gleaned from the internet)

The hard copy text's historical background on Magellan et al. makes no
mention of Matteo Ricci SJ, yet the top circular b&w image is of a
northern hemisphere map that I suspect is an inset taken either from the
Ricci 1602 woodcut world map, or from its [1644+] slightly amended
reprint, which was recently a subject on 'MapHist' and on 'MAPS-L'. It
is vaguely referred to here as "A 1602 [sic] with China at its centre
(right)". However, as no credit to this hemispheric map is visible (or
maybe I wasn't yet sufficiently awake) on the hard copy version, and I
omitted to check the [1644+] state in the RGS this afternoon, I leave it
to others to verify the item.

Francis Herbert

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[mailto:map...@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Angie Cope
Sent: 14 April 2010 14:15
To: map...@listserv.uga.edu
Subject: Uk Independent - Maps will always have mileage

I'm forwarding an interesting article about the future of mapping. A
quote:

"Ed Parsons, geospatial technologist at Google, estimates that
approximately 30 per cent of all Google searches are "geographical". Its
search engine works in tandem with its geospatial application to order
global knowledge in a completely new way. Rather than classifying things
according to numerical or alphabetical order, Google uses a geographical
order. When we ask Google for information, it is increasingly delivered
to us based on how near it is to us. "

Angie

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Subject:Uk Independent - Maps will always have mileage
Date:   Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:35:01 -0400
From:   Tracey P. Lauriault 
Reply-To:   CARTA-L : Canadian Map & GIS Libraries and Archives

To: cart...@listserv.utoronto.ca

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/maps-w
ill-always-have-mileage-1943832.html
--
Tracey P. Lauriault
613-234-2805
https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault

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[MapHist] map state

2010-04-14 Thread Alfred Moldovan 
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How does one differentiate between a "copy" and "later state" of a map?  Al

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RE: [MapHist] map state

2010-04-14 Thread Harry Newman 
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Quickly,

A copy is a reproduction from an original. Be it a photo-offset,
collotype or digital print or one of the many processes that have been
used. A later state is still from the original printing plate, be it a
copper plate or woodcut. Often we tell the differences in states because
an engraver has altered the plate, for example by adding or burnishing
out information. 

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How does one differentiate between a "copy" and "later state" of a map?
Al

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RE: [MapHist] map state

2010-04-14 Thread joel 
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As an adjunct to the remarks below, I would suggest reading Tony
Campbell's 1989 article, "Understanding Engraved Maps":
 . This is supplemented with a
few more recent links to web references.

 Joel Kovarsky

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> the whole list)
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> Quickly,
>
> A copy is a reproduction from an original. Be it a photo-offset,
> collotype or digital print or one of the many processes that have been
> used. A later state is still from the original printing plate, be it a
> copper plate or woodcut. Often we tell the differences in states because
> an engraver has altered the plate, for example by adding or burnishing
> out information.
>
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[MapHist] RE: Maphist Digest, Vol 56, Issue 12

2010-04-14 Thread Kenneth Nebenzahl 
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Dr. A.M.,
Regarding the 1537 Mercator 'Holy Land', have a look at my 'Mapping the Holy
Land',  NY, Abbeville, 1986: plate 24.  This is the early 17th century
re-impression of the original by C. J. Visscher.  It contains the entire
map, by not the decorative borders, the plates for which had apparently been
lost before Visscher's time.  It was used because the unique original is
bound in six sheets in the public library of Perugia (where it was
discovered by Almagia early in the last century).
Best, 
Ken Nebenzahl
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   5. Re: Map Overlay (G?ran B??rnhielm)
   6. Mercarotor Holy land 1536 (Alfred Moldovan)
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   9. Re: Mercarotor Holy land 1536 (Leen Helmink)
  10. Re: Greek map of Gulf of Venice (piero falchetta)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:20:47 -0400
From: Joel Kovarsky 
Subject: Re: [MapHist] Old map scale
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On 4/11/2010 3:00 AM, David Bradbury wrote:
> So the question is- did De Fer, working at about the same time as the 
> Cassinis, under French royal patronage, and having access to the 
> Picard data, make use of it to define his League by reference to the 
> Earth's circumference? Perhaps measurement on the map itself, between 
> points which are likely to have been positioned with maximum accuracy, 
> can help provide an answer. 
It is unlikely that a variable measure like a one-hour walking distance 
would be standardized to the same level as the consistent beat of a 
pendulum, although anything is possible. I may be wrong, but do not 
think the one-hour walking distance scale appeared on the Cassini maps 
of France. I believe the 1:86,400 scale of the 180 sheet map published 
between 1798-1812 was still based on the old English fathom (and not yet 
the pendulum swing): http://www.informatics.org/france/maps.html .

   Joel Kovarsky



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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:10:18 -0700
From: Len Berggren 
Subject: Re: [MapHist] Greek map of Gulf of Venice
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Interesting Wikipedia article, and thanks for steering us to it, John. But
the Theophanes in that article lived from the mid- to late-14th century and
the inscription on the map in question (at least as I read it) dates it to
1205. I suspect it must be another Theophanes.
What do others think?
-Len Berggren

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:01 PM, John W. Docktor
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> This little snippet of a map was published in Guillaume Libri's "Monuments
> inidits ou peu connus..." 2d ed. (London, 1864).
> It has the caption "Geographical map of the XIIIth century on vellum by
> Theophanes, a Greek artist, who has inscribed the Latin names in Greek
> letters."  The introduction gives no clue as to its source, nor have I
been able
> to identify a 13th-century Theophanes.
> The "facsimile" is clearly a redrawing.  Can anyone identify the
source?[ima

[MapHist] Maps of Murder: Dell Books and ‘Hard-Boiled’ Cartography

2010-04-14 Thread Joel Kovarsky 

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This item was recently posted to Strange Maps, and also linked in 
American Libraries Direct: 
. 
There is also an acknowledgement at the end of the piece thanking J.B. 
Post for calling attention to these Dell titles.


Joel Kovarsky

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