AW: MI MapInfo Compatible Geological software

2000-06-23 Thread Thomas Gülden

Hi Hassan,

You were asking for MapInfo compatible Geological software 

Personally, I used Geobasemap from Examin for creating geological maps and
report data during my tenure at a gold exploration company.

2D and 3D data handling could be easily done with Discover and/or Vertical
Mapper but for field data acquisition I could only see a customized
solution, which would mostly depend on the data you acquire in the field:
i.e.: geochemical sampling data, geological mapping data (that is the
recording of polygons, polylines - geological objects - ), or capture of
drill hole data. Only these three categories would require a different
collection of attributes to be captured certainly in very specific user
interfaces. And even these user interfaces might be customized to the
requirements of your project or company. Additionally you need field
computer equipment suitable for harsh environments, which is capable to run
without external power for a sufficient time. All this does not sound like
an out-of-the-box solution.

At the Bavarian Geological Survey I was responsible for developing and
implementing a digital geological field data capturing system, which
featured both recording of spatial information (geological objects on
scanned topographic map backdrops) and specific attribute data.

We used a German software called GISPAD (check out http://www.conterra.de),
which features a module for generating spatial data (without topological
reduncancy !) and a so-called Object Class Editor, which allows you to
design you custom data model and user interface. It has an easy to use data
form generator, which lets you create a user interface very easily. We use
GISPAD now successfully during geological surveying projects. Any custom
business rules can be attached via a programming interface using Borland
Delphi as a programming environment.

The most problems we had was with the choice of suitable field hardware:
there are not many appropriate systems on the market. Most important is a
sunlight readable display, which holds what it promises. You DEFINITELY have
to test before you buy. We now field test the VIA Flexi-PC, a computer
system, which can be carried like a belt, which has a touch screen, which
can be read under most light conditions (it uses the sunlight to enhance
contrast, so the brighter the sun the more contrast you have on the color
display, in dark rooms you won't see anything of course). The computer runs
approximately 8 to 10 hours on two batteries, which are attached to to the
belt. to my oppinion this systems gives users the maximum available comfort
during the field work, because you can have your hands free for "hard work".
Check out http://www.flexi-pc.com  . Personally, I think that conventional
notebook computers are not very suitable for field work, because of the
display (usually not sunlight readable), no pen input devices and touch
screens, too bulky, too short run down times).

With respect to GISPAD again - it has a German user interface, but if you
are really interested may be they could translate the menu system into
English. They have import / export interfaces to Shape(shp), DXF and others,
but unfortunately not to MapInfo yet, so you could import this data into
MapInfo via shp. If the German market would not be so dominated by ESRI,
they would certainly have a MapInfo export function also.

Why do I advertise this software so much ? First, because it is very good to
use, very focused and customizable, and coming from a company which is very
cooperative. The second thing I say all this is, that if MapInfo would
finally decide to provide a visual data form designer, point 3 of your
requirements could be done easily from within MapInfo / MapBasic. This would
of course require controls, which you could bind to your MapInfo data
tables.

Of course you could also opt for a MapX-based application using Visual
Basic, rebuilt lots of MI functionality and provide data entry forms from VB
and add some project administration functionality plus GPS interface. This
would be a major development effort.

To sum up, as you already suspected, I would agree that field data
acquisition is probably the most difficult topic. Mostly because of
hardware, secondly because - depending on your projects - you would need
customized solutions for data capture. In this field MapInfo / MapBasic is
very weak and a MapX solution would be a major development effort. Therefore
we chose GISPAD, which provides a ready to use mapping environment, and a
easy to use development module.

If you have further questions about our experiences with digital geological
data capture in the field, feel free to contact me at:

Thomas Gülden
Geologist
Bavarian Geological Survey
Heßstr. 128
80797 Munich
Germany

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MI ? converting a file into a mapinfo formated file

2000-06-23 Thread Dadler1

ITo mapinfo users, I wanted to find out if through mapinfo pro or through 
some of utiltiy if there was a way to convert a shape file into a mapinfo 
formated file. I received an email from a GIS company that has some maps that 
are in Arcinfo format (.shp, .shx, .e00 & .dbf) I was hoping to take the 
shape file or one of the others and be able to convert it info a Mapinfo 
formated file.

Is this possible and if so can I do it directly in Mapinfo Pro or do I need a 
special utility?

Thanks,

Darrell
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Re: MI Automatic Line Drawing

2000-06-23 Thread Andrew_Dressel

>I would like to create a file with from-to latitude/longitude points and
>then have MapInfo draw lines between the dots.  Is there a simple way to
do
>this?  I have MapBasic but have little experience with it.

Update your_table Set Obj = CreateLine(from_lon, from_lat, to_lon, to_lat)

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MI Automatic Line Drawing

2000-06-23 Thread Goodwin, Phil

I would like to create a file with from-to latitude/longitude points and
then have MapInfo draw lines between the dots.  Is there a simple way to do
this?  I have MapBasic but have little experience with it.

Thanks - Phil Goodwin - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: MI Symbols Automatically Adjust to Map Scale

2000-06-23 Thread Spencer Simpson


Andrea Perego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I often have to create a map at two different scales, say at 1:100 000 and
> 1:500 000.  Symbols I plot at 15pts on the 1:100 000 scale map look
> terrible at 1:500 000 scale.  Is there any way of having the symbols used
> in Create Thematic Map (I am using the filled in circle in MapInfo 3.0
> Compatible) adjust automatically to the scale chosen in the layout?  As it
> is now, I recreate the layers etc for each scale map, but this is tedious
> and I'm sure I don't really need to do all this extra work.  It should be
> able to rescale automatically, shouldn't it?

You can try two different things. The second is more drastic than the first.

1.  Instead of using the "MapInfo 3.0 Compatible Symbols" base for your
symbols,
try using the TrueType-based "MapInfo Symbols".

2.  If that doesn't make your maps look the way you want, try using circle
objects
instead of

You can do this by:

a. make a copy of your table (file -> save copy as)
b. open the copy you just made.
c. bring up the MapBasic Window(Options -> Show MapBasic Window)
d. Pick a radius.  This is the size the circle would be if your map were as
big as the Earth.
e. Type the fololowing in the MapBasic window.

set distance units "ft" ' or "mi", or "meters", or "km", whatever
update my_table_copy set obj = CreateCircle (CentroidX(obj), CentroidY
(obj), my_radius)

Of course, type in the name of the actual table instead of "my_table_copy"
and the actual
radius instead of "my_radius".

f. Try printing maps using the circles at various scales. If you don't like
that radius,
pick a different radius and repeat step e.


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MI Symbols Automatically Adjust to Map Scale

2000-06-23 Thread Andrea Perego

Hi MI Listers,

I often have to create a map at two different scales, say at 1:100 000 and
1:500 000.  Symbols I plot at 15pts on the 1:100 000 scale map look
terrible at 1:500 000 scale.  Is there any way of having the symbols used
in Create Thematic Map (I am using the filled in circle in MapInfo 3.0
Compatible) adjust automatically to the scale chosen in the layout?  As it
is now, I recreate the layers etc for each scale map, but this is tedious
and I'm sure I don't really need to do all this extra work.  It should be
able to rescale automatically, shouldn't it?

I looked in the archives but didn't see an answer to this, but maybe I'm
looking under the wrong keyword.

Will SUM.

Thanks in Advance

Andrea

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MI SUBSCRIBE MAPINFO-L

2000-06-23 Thread richard . lane


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Re: MI Friday History

2000-06-23 Thread Bill Thoen

IMHO, Paul Thurrott's piece is just another part of Microsoft's
propaganda campaign. It is an interesting example of how to twist
history though. Not entirely "the way it was," either. For
example, far from there being all this serious CP/M competition
back then, it was IBM's market dominance and the fact that the
IBM PC shipped with PC-DOS (IBM's brand of MS-DOS) on board that
gave Microsoft their big break. The others didn't really have a
chance. 

True, MS had their share of blind luck (especially when IBM
handed this monkey the keys to the banana plantation--note this
is how you get 500-lb gorrillas), and it's also true that Gates
was shrewd enough to take advantage of opportunities (lots of
competitors then didn't see what seems so obvious now, and now
they are forgotten history.)

Even though competitors made mistakes, competing directly against
an agressive monopoly like Microsoft is like playing snakes and
ladders... with greased rungs. Mistakes come easier that way.
What bugs me about this article is that it tries to paint
Microsoft as some sort of Horatio Alger--poor but honest, one
against long odds, excuse us, but it's just everyone else just
keeps falling on their swords... I don't buy it.

It's still a free country, and praise be we can all say what we
like in public, but I couldn't let Thurrott's piece pass as
"history." It's just a spin on history. 

- Bill Thoen

-
> This is a an article from Windows 2000 Magazine by Paul Thurrott (News
> Editor). I found it quite interesting and sharing it with the list.
> 
> Although it's easy to attribute much of Microsoft's success over the
> years to shady business practices, the company wasn't always in a
> position of power, and its early success was an interesting mix of
> savvy maneuvering and sheer luck. Throughout Microsoft's history, the

... etc.
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MI Display Order

2000-06-23 Thread Keith Campbell

Dear All,

Is it possible to control the order that objects within the same 
table are displayed?This is in relation to thematic mapping in 
particular. I have a table of lines which I have themed. As you know 
the lines overlap at the nodes by an amount that is dependent on the 
width of the theme style. I want to ensure that all lines within a 
higher range display above all lines in a lower range where they 
overlap. Any ideas?

Keith
Keith Campbell
GIS Consultant
W S Atkins Consultants Ltd
UK
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MI Uk Enumeration Districts

2000-06-23 Thread David Eagle

Does anyone have or know where I can acquire Enumeration 
district boundaries for the UK, my only option being a freebie I'm 
afraid!

TIA, Dave

_
David A. Eagle
WS Atkins Consultants - East Anglia
Wellbrook Court, Girton Road, Cambridge, CB3 0NA.
Direct Dial Tel: (01223) 814090, Fax: (01223) 277529
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Maximum printable map size MI 5.5?

2000-06-23 Thread Jeroen Wagendorp



I have prepared a layout in MI 5.5 using the 
largest paper settting allowed on the HP Designjet 2500 CP, 36 x 108 inches. 
Everything looks good  in the layout both in landscape as well as in 
portrait. When I try to print the layout in landscape to the printer or to a 
print file the largest possible paper size is 36 x 48. If I specify any thing 
larger than the "E-size" nothing happens at all, ie. nothing is written the 
print file. When printed in portrait all layouts are truncated at the 48 
inches regardless of specified size in the layout. 
 
The print file size is around 100MB when printing a 
truncated protrait map 36 X 60. Hence, with 12 
inches missing it should have been around 130MB. I have successfully printed 
print files as large as 600MB but never on paper larger than 36 X 48 "Arch 
E"
 
The HP2500 has the maximum memory (68MB) plus the 2 
GB harddrive. I have 3 GB in free drive space, 256MB in Ram and 600MB in virtual 
memory
 
Does anybody have had similar 
experiences?
 
Jeroen Wagendorp
 
Allegan County GIS Dept.
MIchigan
 


RE: MI Vertical Mapper problem

2000-06-23 Thread James Harvie

Trevor,

It is curious that GridView can only be launched from Explorer and not from
the Grid Manager.  Can you provide me with some more details such as any
error messages?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean when you say you are overlaying the
dam level.  Is this a drape file or is this another grid?  If it is another
grid which simulates the surface of the water and you are trying to display
it in 3D along with an elevation grid then I can see how your are having
problems.  The minimum value of the second grid you enter into the scene
will always appear at the minimum value of the master grid (first grid in
the scene).  When using elevation information make sure you are viewing them
in true scale and the base of the second grid is set to zero and is turned
off.

To calculate the volume all you need to do is use the Grid Calculator and
subtract the ground elevation grid from the water surface elevation grid.

James Harvie
Vertical Mapper Product Manager
Northwood Technologies Inc.
43 Auriga Drive, K2E 7Y8
Nepean, Ontario, Canada
613-224-2020


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I'm trying to generate a 3D image of a dam sighting. I have encountered the
following problems and would appreciate some help:
   When I trim a grid I don't seem to be able to generate a 3D view from the
   MapInfo interface. I can however go through Windows Explorer by double
   clicking on the GridView file name.
   When I overlay a dam level of at say 40m on my 3D image it sets its
elevation
   at 352m so it renders my 3D image useless. I have checked long-sections
and
   they apprear to be OK.
   I need to calculate the volume of my proposed dam. Is there a query I can
   perform that will calculate the volume between my ground level grid and
the
   proposed dam grid?


Suggestions?

Trevor Glass


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MI Re: Have you heard of this?

2000-06-23 Thread David_Hansen



After some experimenting, I came to the same conclusion as you did.  The display
driver from the ATI Technologies web site worked perfectly before MapInfo
version 6.0, but wrecked havoc once I tried using the new 3DMaps.  Installing a
driver from the Compaq web site solved it for me.  The details:

System:  Compaq Deskpro
Processor:  Pentium 500
OS:  Windows 95
Display:  Rage Pro Turbo AGP 2x
Driver that didn't work:  4.11.2560
Driver that does:  5.26-C9S

Thanks for your help!





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 Subject: Re: Have you heard of this? 
  


Fax to:

I am getting the error message "SetPixelFormat failed" when I create a 3D
map
with version 6.0, specifically when I try the Viewpoint Control option.
Does
anyone out there have any suggestions?

This sounds like a display driver problem. We did experience this but were
unable to reproduce it. Once the application is running this should not
happen. Our simple suggestion would be to upgrade the display drivers. We
would like to get some more information about OS/Display Type/Driver
version.





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MI Friday History

2000-06-23 Thread Mansour Shoari

Hi List,

This is a an article from Windows 2000 Magazine by Paul Thurrott (News
Editor). I found it quite interesting and sharing it with the list.

Have a nice weekend everyone, 

-mansour...

==

Although it's easy to attribute much of Microsoft's success over the 
years to shady business practices, the company wasn't always in a 
position of power, and its early success was an interesting mix of 
savvy maneuvering and sheer luck. Throughout Microsoft's history, the 
company has dodged bullet after bullet as potential competitors have 
come and gone, never to be heard from again. The company's current 
legal dispute with the federal government is seemingly the most 
dangerous threat the company has faced, but I see signs that Microsoft 
will land on its feet yet again, thanks to good, old-fashioned luck.
   First, let's look at the history. As many of you already know, 
Microsoft's current dominance is due largely to IBM's decision in the 
early 1980s to include Microsoft's MS-DOS OS with IBM's first PC--and 
the combination was wildly successful. Many people wonder how IBM could 
have so easily handed over the "keys to the kingdom"--and basically 
ceded control of the PC OS market to Microsoft. But that isn't what 
happened. As is often the case with such legends, the real story of 
Microsoft's success with MS-DOS is less dramatic. At the time, 
Microsoft was simply a software development tools company, offering 
versions of its BASIC, Fortran, Assembly language, and other 
programming languages to one and all. In its bid to retain IBM's 
business for the fledgling PC, Microsoft agreed to supply the company 
with DOS only after a deal between IBM and Digital Research fell 
through. The decision was just a smart business move.
   But IBM didn't cede the market to Microsoft--far from it. Uncertain 
whether the upstart company would be able to supply a viable PC OS, IBM 
made sure that two other OS offerings--CPM/86 and a Pascal-based 
system--were available at launch. Microsoft did what it could to make 
its OS the software platform of choice, but given the CP/M-oriented 
nature of the day, it's rather amazing that Microsoft's OS won out. The 
rest, of course, is history: MS-DOS and its Windows successors are the 
best-selling software titles of all time, and Microsoft's OS business 
now accounts for 45 percent of its revenues. And the success of 
DOS/Windows as a platform has given the company massive growth in 
supporting areas: Microsoft's Office suite of productivity applications 
makes even more money for the company than does Windows.
   Luck aided Microsoft at other times in its history. In the late 
1980s, Apple Computer, with its beautiful and simple Macintosh, was in 
a position to dominate the PC industry. Third-party hardware developers 
were waiting in the wings, hoping to license the Mac, and even 
Microsoft prompted Apple to make a run for it (at the time, Microsoft 
was making a killing from Mac software, and Windows wasn't going 
anywhere). But bolstered by the insanely great margins on its hardware, 
John Sculley's Apple surrendered long-term viability for short-term 
profits and became an also-ran. When Microsoft effectively halted MS-
DOS development in the early 1990s, Digital Research released its DR-
DOS alternative, which sold amazingly well. DR-DOS's success prompted 
Microsoft to announce MS-DOS 5.0, which the company couldn't deliver 
for more than a year. And when Microsoft released MS-DOS 6.0, Stac 
Electronics sued the company, charging Microsoft with violating its 
patent for disk compression. Stac won a staggering sum in court, but 
Microsoft settled with Stac, whose technology then appeared in the 
final version of Microsoft's command line system, MS-DOS 6.22.
   Novell bought WordPerfect Corporation (for a huge sum) and Borland's 
Quattro Pro--hoping to offer a Microsoft Office alternative. After a 
year, however, Novell sold WordPerfect, losing millions. Lotus 
SmartSuite, meanwhile, which essentially invented the Office suite 
concept, watched its market share erode because of a Microsoft bundle 
that offered little true integration. Both Lotus and WordPerfect, 
dominant in the DOS era, lost a technical "bet." As Microsoft put all 
of its resources into Windows, Lotus and WordPerfect continued to push 
their DOS products while they worked on OS/2-based successors. As OS/2 
floundered in the market, so did third-party developers, and Lotus and 
WordPerfect never fully recovered. By the time Lotus 1-2-3 and 
WordPerfect had versions of their products for Windows, Microsoft Excel 
and Word were entrenched.
   In recent times, Netscape's implosion and inability to create 
elegant software that you could upgrade easily did more to harm 
Netscape than Microsoft ever did. And threats such as Java and the 
Network Computer never materialized because of those products' 
limitations, not because of Microsoft's perceived respon

MI Canadian Data

2000-06-23 Thread Doug Kunzman



Hi,
 
I am looking for Canadain elevation data in US DEM 
format at the 1:250,000 scale.  I would prefer the data to be 
inexpensive.
Does anyone know of a source ?
 
Doug K


Re: MI Opening hotlinks within a viewer

2000-06-23 Thread Andrew_Dressel

>I am looking to provide a non-GIS user with access to some data prepared
>within MapInfo v6.0 that has hotlinks.  Is there a viewer available that
>can open hotlinks?  e.g Proviewer v6.0 or A.N Other?
>
>I know the current version of Proviewer cannot handle this, but will
v6.0
>or for that matter any other software?  Preferably inexpensive or free.

MapInfo ProViewer 6.0 will included the HotLink tool to launch URLs and
files associated with objects in MapInfo Professional 6.0. MapInfo
ProViewer
6.0 is in final testing and should be posted on our web site for free
download in the beginning of July.




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Re: MI projection glitch?

2000-06-23 Thread Spencer Simpson

> I have run into a strange problem where sometimes if the moon is just
right
> and there is a pending deadline, layers don't display correctly.  If I
open
> a simple map where the land, rivers and coastline are the only layers
being
> used, the coastline would normally be coincidental with the edge of the
> land (as one would hope).  However, in a complex workspace that has taken
> FOREVER to build those exact same layers are screwed up and the coast line
> is offset from the edge of the land. Why?  Plz help.

When layers that should line up on't line up, it is often due to their being
in
different projections *based upon different datums*.  When layers line up in
some maps but not in others, it is usually due to the fact that the
intrinsic
projection of one of the layers is based upon a spherical Earth (i.e. not
based
upon any datum).

MapInfo treats layers using a spherical Earth differently: When mixed with
any *one* other layer based upon a datum, it pretends the first layer is the
other datum. Things line up with no problem.

When mixed with *more than one* other datum, MapInfo has to choose one of
the datums upon which to pretend to base the spherical layer.

So, I would guess that one or two of the three layers you mention is based
on
a spherical Earth, and the others are based upon a datum, and the projection
of your Map window based upon a different datum.

Another possibility is that the Map window's projection is spherical and
your three layers' projections are based upon two or more datums.

Hope this helps
Spencer




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MI Re: Have you heard of this?

2000-06-23 Thread Andrew_Dressel

I am getting the error message "SetPixelFormat failed" when I create a 3D
map
with version 6.0, specifically when I try the Viewpoint Control option.
Does
anyone out there have any suggestions?

This sounds like a display driver problem. We did experience this but were
unable to reproduce it. Once the application is running this should not
happen. Our simple suggestion would be to upgrade the display drivers. We
would like to get some more information about OS/Display Type/Driver
version.


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Re: MI CORRECT DISTANCES IN NON-EARTH COOR SYS. WITH MB?

2000-06-23 Thread Spencer Simpson


MELIH BASARANER wrote:
>
> I have a problem with MapBasic. I have 2 tables. I want to find the
> distances from an object selected on a table1 (Buildings) to objects in
> table2 (public services). My tables' coordinate systems are Non-earth(m).
> So, I need Cartesian distances. When I try to find them in MI SQL, there
is
> not a problem. But when I try to use MapBasic for finding distances, the
> results are wrong. How can I find correct distances? Thanks in advance for
> your help.

You don't state whether the distances are only slightly wrong, or
extremely wrong.

> **
> MB codes are as follows:
>
> Set Map CoordSys NonEarth units "m"

Here's your problem.  See Below.

> Distance type Cartesian
>
> x = centroidx(selection.obj)
> y = centroidy(selection.obj)
>
>
> select
> BUILDING_NAME,CartesianDistance(x,y,centroidx(obj),centroidy(obj),"m")
> "Distance(m)"
> from public_services order by col2 into PS_Distance
> browse * from PS_Distance
> end sub

The "set Map Coordsys" statement above only changes the
projection of the frontmost map window.  You need to change the
"current MapBasic coordsys" which is the coordinate system
used for the return values of CentroidX() and Centroidy().

Use

Set Coordsys Nonearth Units "in"

instead.

Hope this helps,
Spencer


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MI CORRECT DISTANCES IN NON-EARTH COOR SYS. WITH MB?

2000-06-23 Thread MELIH BASARANER

Hello,

I have a problem with MapBasic. I have 2 tables. I want to find the
distances from an object selected on a table1 (Buildings) to objects in
table2 (public services). My tables' coordinate systems are Non-earth(m).
So, I need Cartesian distances. When I try to find them in MI SQL, there is
not a problem. But when I try to use MapBasic for finding distances, the
results are wrong. How can I find correct distances? Thanks in advance for
your help.

Melih Basaraner
Yildiz Technical University
Department of Geodesy and Photogrammetry Engineering
Chair of Cartography
**
MB codes are as follows:

Set Map CoordSys NonEarth units "m" 
Distance type Cartesian

x = centroidx(selection.obj)
y = centroidy(selection.obj)


select
BUILDING_NAME,CartesianDistance(x,y,centroidx(obj),centroidy(obj),"m")
"Distance(m)" 
from public_services order by col2 into PS_Distance
browse * from PS_Distance
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MI Opening hotlinks within a viewer

2000-06-23 Thread Steven Keyworth

I am looking to provide a non-GIS user with access to some data prepared within 
MapInfo v6.0 that has hotlinks.  Is there a viewer available that can open hotlinks?  
e.g Proviewer v6.0 or A.N Other?  
I know the current version of Proviewer cannot handle this, but will v6.0 or for 
that matter any other software?  Preferably inexpensive or free.

Thank you,

Steve Keyworth
Environmental Land Mgnt Team, ADAS
Tel:  01970 621445Fax:  01970 617798
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