Re: [Marxism] DAILY SHOW on socialist medicine....
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It says that Comedy Central streams are not available in Canada. I have heard that there is some program or device you can get to overcome this, but its not really worth it for me. It is interesting that this is not the case everywhere outside of the US as Eindie has mentioned. Dude, we cant have dangerous ideas being broadcast to Canada. One day a Canadian Red Army could sweep south ending capitalism as we know it. Nah, ya cant have that shit up there. Its just olympics, olympics, olympics for you.. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Sex, Lies, and Economics: The Amazing Story of Economics and Economists Before Adam Smith
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It sounds fascinating to me. So prior to Adam Smith, there was hardly a prominent economist who was also an honorable man? I guess they were mostly rogues, thieves, and murderers. Then again, while most contemporary economists are much less colorful than these pioneers, they are not necessarily more honorable. Jim F. http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant -- Original Message -- From: michael perelman mich...@ecst.csuchico.edu Subject: [Marxism] Sex, Lies, and Economics: The Amazing Story of Economics and Economists Before Adam Smith Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:20:46 -0800 I am getting ready to send out my short proposal for my new book. If anyone has any comments on this, I would be most appreciative. I posted it here: http://michaelperelman.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/proposal.pdf -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 530 898 5321 fax 530 898 5901 http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com Love Spell Click here to light up your life with a love spell! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=wby8ocPCiM4foFOFDebPYwAAJ1BRugI4sJACAWmXIev8NAFPAAYAAADNRwA= Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Socialist Voice: Olympic Protest / Pluralist Quebec Manifesto
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == SOCIALIST VOICE Marxist Perspectives for the 21st Century http://www.socialistvoice.ca February 15, 2010 THOUSANDS PROTEST OPENING OF VANCOUVER WINTER OLYMPICS http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=1009 By Roger Annis Five thousand people took to the streets here on February 12 to protest the opening of the corporate spectacle known as the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics. The largest social rights action in Vancouver in many years coincided with the Games' opening ceremony at a downtown arena attended by 60,000 people. MANIFESTO FOR A PLURALIST QUEBEC http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=1012 Introduction by Richard Fidler Quebec's public debate over reasonable accommodation of minorities, especially religious minorities, continues to rage. A recent contribution that has attracted much comment and controversy is the Manifesto for a Pluralist Quebec, the short version of which is translated below. +++ Recent Articles SOCIALIST VOICE READERS DEBATE CHINA http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=998 HAITI: RESTORE DEMOCRACY, LET ARISTIDE RETURN! http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=996 SHOULD CLIMATE ACTIVISTS SUPPORT LIMITS ON IMMIGRATION? http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=966 SOCIALIST VOICE Web: http://www.socialistvoice.ca Email: socialistvo...@sympatico.ca Editors: Ian Angus, Roger Annis, John Riddell Associate Editor: Mike Krebs Readers are encouraged to forward or distribute Socialist Voice as widely as possible. To subscribe, send a blank email to socialist-voice-subscr...@yahoogroups.com. To unsubscribe, send a blank email to socialist-voice-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com FEEDBACK: Socialist Voice welcomes questions, comments and debate on the articles we publish. Please use the `Feedback' box at the bottom of each article on our website. LINK DOESN'T WORK? Some email programs block links to websites. If clicking on a link in Socialist Voice doesn't work, try holding down the CTRL key as you click, or copy the link address into your browser. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Goldman and Greece
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == http://baselinescenario.com/2010/02/14/goldman-goes-rogue-%E2%80%93-special-european-audit-to-follow/ Goldman Goes Rogue – Special European Audit To Follow By Simon Johnson At 9:30pm on Sunday, September 21, 2008, Goldman Sachs was saved from imminent collapse by the announcement that the Federal Reserve would allow it to become a bank holding company – implying unfettered access to borrowing from the Fed and other forms of implicit government support, all of which subsequently proved most beneficial. Officials allowed Goldman to make such an unprecedented conversion in the name of global financial stability. (The blow-by-blow account is in Andrew Ross Sorkin’s Too Big To Fail; this is confirmed in all substantial detail by Hank Paulson’s memoir.) We now learn – from Der Spiegel last week and today’s NYT – that Goldman Sachs has not only helped or encouraged some European governments to hide a large part of their debts, but it also endeavored to do so for Greece as recently as last November. These actions are fundamentally destabilizing to the global financial system, as they undermine: the eurozone area; all attempts to bring greater transparency to government accounting; and the most basic principles that underlie well-functioning markets. When the data are all lies, the outcomes are all bad – see the subprime mortgage crisis for further detail. A single rogue trader can bring down a bank – remember the case of Barings. But a single rogue bank can bring down the world’s financial system. Goldman will dismiss this as “business as usual” and, to be sure, a few phone calls around Washington will help ensure that Goldman’s primary supervisor – now the Fed – looks the other way. But the affair is now out of Ben Bernanke’s hands, and quite far from people who are easily swayed by the White House. It goes immediately to the European Commission, which has jurisdiction over eurozone budget issues. Faced with enormous pressure from those eurozone countries now on the hook for saving Greece, the Commission will surely launch a special audit of Goldman and all its European clients. This audit should focus on ten sets of questions. 1. Which eurozone governments have worked with Goldman, and on what basis, over the past decade? All actions prior to and after the introduction of the euro need to be thoroughly reexamined. 2. What transactions has Goldman facilitated and how has that affected the reporting of European government debt? (Under the Maastricht Treaty, eurozone government debt is not supposed to exceed 60 percent of GDP.) 3. In the case of Greece, the accusation is that Goldman deliberately and in a premeditated manner conspired to hide the true degree of government debt. Is this true, and to what extent has Goldman helped other countries engage in similar transactions, e.g., countries now seeking entry to the eurozone? 4. What is the full extent of Greek and other government liabilities, if these are accounted for properly? Without this reckoning, it is impossible to design a proper level of European Union (or any other) support for weaker eurozone countries. 5. Are there non-eurozone countries that have also been aided and abetted by Goldman in this fashion? For example, are the UK and Switzerland implicated – and thus endangered? 6. Has Goldman extolled the virtues of government debt in Greece, or other countries, while at the same time helping to deceive investors on the true risks inherent in those debts? What were Goldman’s own holdings of these securities? 7. Is there evidence that Goldman has structured similar transactions for the private sector – enabling companies to conceal the level of their true indebtedness? Have securities issued by such firms also been endorsed by Goldman to the buying public? 8. Were Goldman’s US-based supervisors aware of Goldman’s activities in Greece and other eurozone countries? Did they condone activities that undermine the integrity of the European Union? 9. Where was the European Central Bank while all of this was happening? Has the ECB become dangerously enraptured with the new Wall Street and its “techniques”? 10. Did any responsible official really think that what Goldman was constructing was really some sort of productivity-enhancing financial innovation – as opposed to a sophisticated form of scam? The Federal Reserve must cooperate fully with this investigation. Ordinarily, the Fed might be tempted to sit on useful information, but they can now feel themselves in Senator Bob Corker’s crosshairs. Republican Senator Corker is willing to cooperate with Senator Dodd on financial sector reform, opening up the possibility of
Re: [Marxism] Goldman and Greece
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: http://baselinescenario.com/2010/02/14/goldman-goes-rogue-%E2%80%93-special-european-audit-to-follow/ Goldman Goes Rogue – Special European Audit To Follow By Simon Johnson ...We now learn – from Der Spiegel last week and today’s NYT – that Goldman Sachs has not only helped or encouraged some European governments to hide a large part of their debts, but it also endeavored to do so for Greece as recently as last NovemberIn the case of Greece, the accusation is that Goldman deliberately and in a premeditated manner conspired to hide the true degree of government debt And George Papandreou has now explicitly denounced this criminal record of statistical falsification. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] History of the Marxist internationals (part 2, the Second International)
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == This is the second in a series of posts on socialist internationals. The first dealt with the International Workingman’s Association (IWA) that collapsed not long after the defeat of the Paris Commune. The ensuing repression combined with an exhausting faction fight with Bakunin and the anarchists led to its demise. Although conditions were ripening to inspire the formation of a new international (largely a function of the growth of an industrial working class), Marx was wary of launching it prematurely. In 1881, two years before his death, he wrote F. Domela Nieuwenhuis, a Dutch supporter, that “It is my conviction that the critical juncture for a new International Workingmen’s Association has not yet arrived and for this reason I regard all workers’ congresses, particularly socialist congresses, in so far as they are not related to the immediate given conditions in this or that particular nation, as not merely useless but harmful. They will always fade away in innumerable stale generalised banalities.” Despite these doubts, the growth of the socialist movements in France and Germany led to a new impetus for organizing internationally. Just as Russia was the natural center for the Communist International (a mixed blessing as we shall see), France and Germany formed the twin stars of the Second International. And despite their considerable national differences, the two sections would exhibit all the shortcomings that made the Second International fail. full article: http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/history-of-the-marxist-internationals-part-2-the-second-international/ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] How credible is Human Rights Watch on Cuba?
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == li...@dsp.org.au How credible is Human Rights Watch on Cuba? Human Rights Watch does not see the US blockade of Cuba as a human rights abuse. By *Tim Anderson * February 11, 2010 -- In late 2009 the New York-based group Human Rights Watch published a report titled /New Castro Same Cuba/. Based on the testimony of former prisoners, the report systematically condemns the Cuban government as an “abusive” regime that uses its “repressive machinery … draconian laws and sham trials to incarcerate scores more who have dared to exercise their fundamental freedoms”. The group says it interviewed 40 political prisoners and claims to have identified extraordinary laws by which Cubans can be imprisoned simply for expressing views critical of their socialist system. At first glance one might be forgiven for thinking that Cuba must be among the worst of human rights abusers in the Americas. A little reflection, however, might lead one to question such statements coming from the USA, a country with thousands held in an international network of secret prisons, many subject to torture regimes. So how credible is this scathing report on Cuba? And who does Human Rights Watch represent? Answering the latter question is a little more difficult than it is for other organisations such as the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), established by the US government, or even the France-based Reporters without Borders (RSF), funded directly by the US State Department for some of its anti-Cuba campaigns. In the manner of embedded journalists who travel with US troops around the world, the NED and RSF can be considered embedded watchdogs, helping to legitimise or delegitimise regimes, consistent with US policy. *`Privatised, US-based selection of issues'* Human Rights Watch, however, is not funded by the US government. Yet it gets most of its funds from a variety of US foundations, in turn funded by many of the biggest US corporations. These wealthy, private foundations often tie their contributions to particular projects. So for example HRW's Middle East reports often rely on and acknowledge grants from pro-Israel foundations. Other groups ask for a focus on women’s rights or HIV/AIDS issues. More than 90% of HRW’s US$100 million budget in 2009 was restricted in this way. In other words, HRW offers a privatised, wealthy, US-based selection of rights issues. The coordination of all these interests is best illustrated through HRW’s new chairperson, James F. Hoge Jr. A publisher and journalist, Hoge was editor of /Foreign Affairs/ from 1992 to 2009, and a prominent member of that magazine’s sponsor, the New York-based Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR, regarded as the most influential of US foreign policy think tank, includes much of the US corporate elite (including banks and media) as well as past and present leaders of the two major parties. Past US secretaries of state, such as Henry Kissinger and Condoleezza Rice, and the current US secretary of deence Robert Gates are CFR members. It is really a Who’s Who of the US elite. The HRW board is similarly dominated by the US corporate elite, such as banking and corporate media executives, and some academics, but not government officials. The board includes former Mexican foreign minister Jorge Castañeda (a former Marxist academic turned right-wing politician), while Chilean-born lawyer José Miguel Vivanco serves as director of HRW’s Americas division. Vivanco has been the subject of most controversy in Latin America through his attacks on Venezuela and Cuba. If HRW has at times appeared to be acting somewhat independently of US foreign policy, for example, when it supported the US war on terror but criticised US operations in Iraq, this has not been the case in Latin America, where the group has closely followed Washington’s line. Of the HRW's reports on Latin America over the past few years, the only systematic criticism of regimes has been of Venezuela and Cuba. Reports on Brazil, Honduras and Mexico have been on much more specific issues, such as police violence, transgender people's rights and military justice. When it comes to Colombia, HRW has published reports on the use of landmines and the paramilitary mafias. The latter report does note that Colombia has had worse violence than almost any other country in the western hemisphere. Indeed, Colombia is way ahead of any other Latin American country in terms of the murder of trade unionists, journalists, lawyers and ordinary people. The Colombian military and its allied right-wing militias have been responsible for most of this slaughter, yet HRW blames left guerrillas and right militias equally, without implicating the regime of Alvaro Uribe, the
[Marxism] Canada's Socialist Project on the call for a Fifth Socialist International | Links International Journal of Socialist Renewal
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == ... Socialist Project greets this initiative for more effective international unity of anti-capitalist and liberation forces, and pledges our solidarity and collaboration in efforts to achieve this goal. It is in the spirit of our founding statement that “our political commitments are necessarily internationalist”. We view this project as reflecting the unifying spirit of Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution, which has brought together forces from diverse political origins, with diverse ideological viewpoints and diverse proposals, into a common movement striving to serve the interests of the popular movement... Full statement at http://links.org.au/node/1512 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] What's new at Links: HRW Cuba, Olympics, NT Indigenous struggle, Lars T. Lin on Lenin, Malaysia, Pakistan, Thailand, NZ, Burma, WSF or 5th International?
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == What's new at Links: HRW Cuba, Olympics, NT Indigenous struggle, Lars T. Lin on Lenin, Malaysia, Pakistan, Thailand, NZ, Burma, WSF or 5th International? * * * Subscribe free to Links - International Journal of Socialist Renewal - at http://www.feedblitz.com/f/?Sub=343373 You can also follow Links on Twitter at http://twitter.com/LinksSocialism Visit and bookmark http://links.org.au and add it to your RSS feed (http://links.org.au/rss.xml). If you would like us to consider an article, please send it to li...@dsp.org.au *Please pass on to anybody you think will be interested in Links. * * * How credible is Human Rights Watch on Cuba? http://links.org.au/node/1506 By *Tim Anderson * February 11, 2010 -- In late 2009 the New York-based group Human Rights Watch published a report titled /New Castro Same Cuba/. Based on the testimony of former prisoners, the report systematically condemns the Cuban government as an abusive regime that uses its repressive machinery ... draconian laws and sham trials to incarcerate scores more who have dared to exercise their fundamental freedoms. So how credible is this scathing report on Cuba? And who does Human Rights Watch represent? * Read more http://links.org.au/node/1506 Vancouver Winter Olympics: A festival of corporate greed http://links.org.au/node/1501 By *Roger Annis* Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada -- On February 12, 2010, the corporate sporting behemoth known as the 21st Winter Olympic Games opened to great fanfare here. In a time of economic hardship and government cuts to social programs across Canada, huge sums of public money have been spent to stage this /uber/ spectacle. * Read more http://links.org.au/node/1501 Australia: Trade union solidarity with NT Aboriginal struggle http://links.org.au/node/1511 By *Emma Murphy*, Ampilatwatja, Northern Territory February 12, 2010 -- From February 1-14, in a remote part of Australia's Northern Territory (NT), a group of trade unionists and Aboriginal rights activists from Victoria, New South Wales and the NT joined forces with the Alyawarr people from Ampilatwatja community to help make history. Many people around Australia have already been inspired by the Alyawarr people's walk-off. On July 14, 2009, following a great tradition from Aboriginal struggles of the past century, they walked off their community and set up a protest camp. * Read more http://links.org.au/node/1511 Lars T. Lih's contribution to a Leninism for the 21st century http://links.org.au/node/1510 */Lenin Rediscovered: /What Is To Be Done?/ In Context/* By Lars T. Lih, Haymarket Books, Chicago 2008, 840 pages Review by *Barry Healy* If a spectre haunted 19th century Europe, as Marx said of the embryonic communist movement, then the name of Lenin was no ghost for the 20th century bourgeoisie, it was a terrifying reality. For the capitalists, with Leninism the communist phantom came howling out of the underworld, beginning with the 1917 Russian Revolution, sweeping whole continents clean of capitalist rule. * Read more http://links.org.au/node/1510 Malaysia: Two-party system -- and a 'third force'? http://links.org.au/node/1509 By *Jeyakumar Devaraj* February 11, 2010 -- Malaysia has only known one ruling coalition in the past 52 years since independence. But the result of the March 2008 election has led to rising hope among many Malaysians that an enormous change might be around the corner -- a two-party system under which the people are free to choose between two coalitions, which are both capable of governing the country. The purpose of this paper is to locate the institution of a two-coalition system against a wider historical perspective. * Read more http://links.org.au/node/1509 Burma: Regional left support for workers' struggle http://links.org.au/node/1508 February 13, 2010 -- The statement below has been signed by the Working People's Association (Indonesia); Confederation Congress of Indonesia Union Alliance; the Singapore Democratic Party; the Socialist Party of Malaysia; Socialist Alternative (Australia); Socialist Alliance (Australia); Socialist Worker New Zealand; Young Democrats (Singapore); Partido ng Manggangawa (Philippines); Congress of South African Trade Unions; Partido Lakas ng Masa (Philippines). * Read more http://links.org.au/node/1508 Beyond the World Social Forum ... the Fifth International http://links.org.au/node/1507 *Eric Toussaint* interviewed by *Igor Ojeda* for the Brazilian weekly paper /Brasil de Fato./*/ /*Translated from French by *Judith Harris* and *Christine Pagnoulle*. February 2010 -- According to Eric Toussaint, a doctor in
Re: [Marxism] Goldman and Greece
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Shane wrote: And George Papandreou has now explicitly denounced this criminal record of statistical falsification. My comment: and the same George Papandreou will administer the austerity program demanded by the German and French bankers. There is a Golden Rule that will be followed religously by every liberal and social democrat and that is concealed by the slogan Too big to fail. In actuality that means simply that the Rich must get richer or in the fall back position the Rich must stay rich. Nothing will alter that short of an all out revolt by the *sans culottes*. regards Gary Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] glaciergate
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis wrote: Btw, Paula, have one more go at your denialism thing and then that's it. The term 'denialism' only confuses and polarizes the debate. You are never going to convince the skeptics by throwing insults at them. May I remind you that skeptics make up the majority of the population in countries such as the UK - see this recent opinion poll http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8500443.stm. That's it for now. Paula Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Facebook sucks. I hate it. I do have an account but NOT under my own name. Fuck that. It's insane. I don't want to be your fkng friend. Facebook IS what it's critics say it is: a great big black hole that sucks your time in. I HAD a face book account once under my real name. HUGE mistake. My sister wrote me about why my view on Israel had changed to creating radioactive seal eating Chavistas. Really. I hope Facebook dies. David Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == There's high levels of narcissism and voyeurism involved with Facebook, but as far as activism goes it's an invaluable tool for bringing out college students to protests and events on campus. Bombard 150 people with an event invitation, get 40 RSVPs and expect a 20 or show to actually show-up. It's not a bad complement to actual flyering. As far as The Activist. You should fan us. 700 people or so have done it already and it would be nice to get a 1000. It's not bad to show support for an anti-capitalist youth blog connected to a growing student organization, despite any political disagreements, right? Facebook fan pages are decent forums for readership interaction and advertising. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Way to miss out on the youth! I disagree, amidst all the muck there is a layer of young students and workers who are sifting through the debris of left wing parties to find the best and brightest. We may have to roll up our pants and walk through shit every now and again but even if I find one of my peers and turn them on to revolutionary politics, well, then it is worth it. If you don't want to build and politik with other youth, I certainly will. in solidarity, Hutch Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Facebook can be what you make it. I block the news feeds from people who's status updates annoy me, or just clog up space. I mainly use it to stay connected to friends who I wouldn't normally call or see, and to read news articles that people post which I would otherwise not find (it kind of serves one of the functions of marxmail, in that sense). When I get these requests to be a fan of XYZ or whatever, I usually just delete them, though sometimes I click the button if it seems cool. Whatever. Some of the Facebook crap is annoying, but it goes with the good stuff. If Facebook is sucking up time, it probably has more to do with larger difficulties in avoiding easy, impulsive distractions (I say this as someone who constantly falls victim to this). This is my personal experience -- I'm open to arguments that Facebook and Twitter might represent larger setbacks, especially because so many of my students seems to be completely shaped by them. But I can't tell if it's Facebook and Twitter that's eroding their attention spans and helping them stay in a bubble, or if it's other stuff. I suspect that if the shit hits the fan, these social networking things will not matter, except that they will facilitate both resistance and repression. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I was having fun, of course, with this, but there are real issues with facebook *as a medium*. Facebook has been used, albeit more with Twitter, in organizing some of the big protests and strikes at UC Berkeley this winter. I recognize it's importance as a tool, but not as a lifestyle and I've seen very active leftists involved in this struggle get sucked down by existential experiences on Facebook. Not good. The problem is that students, etc, take it too seriously, I think. I don't think it will 'outlive' us. Not even me in my old age. I've seen to many of these things die as fads often do. Two years ago it was Myspace. Not it's totally uncool to be on Myspace. Go figure? Social media in general will outlive us. I suepect as vid-phoning gets more faster, large bandwidth, it'll be a Youtube Nation and posting will be a thing of the past. David Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis Proyect wrote: snip I also learned that Einde O'Callaghan commented on John Mullen's status. That makes my day, knowing that. Glad to know that I'm helping to make you happy. ;-) Einde Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 2/15/2010 6:28 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: I don't know, comrades. I am beginning to wonder if this thing has been oversold. Facebook is a great way to keep up with the teenagers and twenty-somethings i know in town. its a nice way to see who is doing what on a given day, what did they pull out of the oven, etc. what was their trip like. anything above and beyond that is icing. i also dont like all the invitation things. i like it better when someone posts a status message and if its something interesting, i'll go take a look. Les Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == These things are tools not communities. The same's true of this email list. ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Facebook
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Facebook is how the Campus Antiwar Network communicates in this area, so I joined it. Other people have connected since and that's fine. The problem is what people expect from these things. But it's a tool. That's all. ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Marine life threatened by rising acid levels
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == http://www.smh.com.au/environment/rising-acid-levels-pose-growing-risk-to-marine-life-20100215-o2vj.html Rising acid levels pose growing risk to marine life February 16, 2010 *LONDON: *The oceans are becoming acidic at a faster rate than at any time in the past 65 million years, threatening marine life and food supplies, according to a new study. Researchers from the University of Bristol found that when ocean acidification accelerated, it caused extinction at the bottom of the food chain. The current acidification was being caused by carbon dioxide from cars and factories, which was absorbed by the water. Since the Industrial Revolution, acidity in the seas has increased by 30 per cent. The last time such a fast change occurred was thought to be 65 million years ago, when a natural event caused ocean acidification. The study looked at sediment from about 55 million years ago, when acidification was occurring. It found widespread extinction of tiny organisms. Andy Ridgwell, the lead author of the paper, published in *Nature Geoscience *, said acidification was occurring much faster today than in the past, ''exceeding the rate at which plankton can adapt'' and threatening the basis of much marine life. This would mean fish and other creatures further up the food chain that humans eat may be affected as soon as the end of this century, he said. *Telegraph, London* -- “Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion.” — Oscar Wilde, Soul of Man Under Socialism “The free market is perfectly natural... do you think I am some kind of dummy?” — Jarvis Cocker Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
