[Marxism] The Tucson witch-hunt

2011-01-15 Thread Louis Proyect
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NY Times Op-Ed January 14, 2011
The Tucson Witch Hunt
By CHARLES M. BLOW

Tragedy in Tucson. Six Dead. Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at rally.

Immediately after the news broke, the air became thick with
conjecture, speculation and innuendo. There was a giddy, almost
punch-drunk excitement on the left. The prophecy had been fulfilled:
“words have consequences.” And now, the right’s rhetorical chickens
had finally come home to roost.

The dots were too close and the temptation to connect them too strong.
The target was a Democratic congresswoman. There was the map of her
district in the cross hairs. There were her own prescient worries
about overheated rhetoric.

Within hours of the shooting, there was a full-fledged witch hunt to
link the shooter to the right.

“I saw Goody Proctor with the devil! Oh, I mean Jared Lee Loughner!
Yes him. With the devil!”

The only problem is that there was no evidence then, and even now,
that overheated rhetoric from the right had anything to do with the
shooting. (In fact, a couple of people who said they knew him have
described him as either apolitical or “quite liberal.”) The picture
emerging is of a sad and lonely soul slowly, and publicly, slipping
into insanity.

I have written about violent rhetoric before, and I’m convinced that
it’s poisonous to our politics, that the preponderance of it comes
from the right, and that it has the potential to manifest in massacres
like the one in Tucson.

But I also know that potential, possibility and even plausibility are not proof.

The American people know it, too. According to a USA Today/Gallup poll
released Wednesday, 42 percent of those asked said that political
rhetoric was not a factor at all in the shooting, 22 percent said that
it was a minor factor and 20 percent said that it was a major factor.
Furthermore, most agreed that focusing on conservative rhetoric as a
link in the shooting was “not a legitimate point but mostly an attempt
to use the tragedy to make conservatives look bad.” And nearly an
equal number of people said that Republicans, the Tea Party and
Democrats had all “gone too far in using inflammatory language” to
criticize their opponents.

Great. So the left overreacts and overreaches and it only accomplishes
two things: fostering sympathy for its opponents and nurturing a false
equivalence within the body politic. Well done, Democrats.

Now we’ve settled into the by-any-means-necessary argument: anything
that gets us to focus on the rhetoric and tamp it down is a good
thing. But a wrong in the service of righteousness is no less wrong,
no less corrosive, no less a menace to the very righteousness it’s
meant to support.

You can’t claim the higher ground in a pit of quicksand.

Concocting connections to advance an argument actually weakens it. The
argument for tonal moderation has been done a tremendous disservice by
those who sought to score political points in the absence of proof.

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e-mail me at chb...@nytimes.com.


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Re: [Marxism] The Tucson witch-hunt

2011-01-15 Thread Mark Lause
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More with the tedious microsurgery on Loughner's social network

Let's take a deep breath and a step or two back to see the big picture.

Through the last two election cycles, people started carrying firearms to
political rallies.  Was this even imaginable after the assassinations in the
1960s?  My question is how did carrying a gun to an event like this become
acceptable. This wasn't the work of a lone schizophrenic.

It wasn't the work of disturbed person to plaster these armed knuckleheads
across the public communications grid, was it?  I mean, the media bosses who
made that choice raked in record profits turning their idea of the news into
a particularly dramatic kind of reality TV.

The political responsibility doesn't fall on the mentally ill.

ML

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Re: [Marxism] The Tucson witch-hunt

2011-01-15 Thread Louis Proyect
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 Through the last two election cycles, people started carrying firearms to
 political rallies.  Was this even imaginable after the assassinations in
 the
 1960s?  My question is how did carrying a gun to an event like this become
 acceptable. This wasn't the work of a lone schizophrenic.


 ML

Those are questions worth pursuing but on a scale of 1 to 10, they rate
about a 3. Later today I plan to write something about what is in store
for the USA in the last 2 years of the Obama administration. Just as Dubya
took advantage of 9/11 to launch a war against Iraq, Obama will try to use
Tucson as a way to forge a government of national unity to press forward
with the dismantling of what's left of the safety net. His radio address
today should give some inkling of where he is going:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/01/15/weekly-address-president-obama-we-are-democrats-or-republicans-we-are-am

While we can’t escape our grief for those we’ve lost, we carry on now,
mindful of those truths.

We carry on because we have to.  After all, this is still a time of great
challenges for us to solve.  We’ve got to grow jobs faster, and forge a
stronger, more competitive economy.  We’ve got to shore up our budget, and
bring down our deficits.  We’ve got to keep our people safe, and see to it
that the American Dream remains vibrant and alive for our children and
grandchildren.




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Re: [Marxism] The Tucson witch-hunt

2011-01-15 Thread Mark Lause
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Good.  You see what I'm raising as an issue, our difference is on the
quantitative weight assigned it.  The converse of this is the relative
weight we accord the danger of an Obama administration drive to use Tucson
as a means to concentrate more power.

Usually, the government concentration of more power and the suspension of
more human rights requires a foreign threat, so I doubt Tucson will be as
marketable a justification as 9/11but I'll certainly be glad to consider
your argument on it...

ML

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Re: [Marxism] The Tucson witch-hunt

2011-01-15 Thread Louis Proyect
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 Usually, the government concentration of more power and the suspension of
 more human rights requires a foreign threat, so I doubt Tucson will be as
 marketable a justification as 9/11but I'll certainly be glad to
 consider
 your argument on it...

 ML

I didn't say that there will be a crackdown on human rights. I said that
there would be an attack on the welfare state fundamentals, including
social security and medicare. Obama is a very slick politician. That is
why, unlike Paul Krugman, MSNBC and others, he is not stigmatizing the
Republican right. Basically he is trying to unite with them against the
American people. In order to push ahead with this alliance, he needs to
blunt the attacks from the left--like Krugman on occasion, Bob Herbert and
any other MSNBC host that has a grain of integrity. Not to speak of people
like Bernie Sanders. So this civility and anti-hate speech mood works
very much in his favor. Even though nobody could ever accuse Sanders of
hate speech, you still have pressure on him and any other liberal Democrat
to get behind the president, whatever the scoundrel has up his sleeve.





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Re: [Marxism] The Tucson witch-hunt

2011-01-15 Thread Tom Cod
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Yeah but, witch-hunt? against whom, the likes of Sarah Palin?  maybe I'm
missing something here, but this could be interpreted as a salvo against
politically correct leftists we see launched against progressives in
academia from time to time regarding their New McCarthyism that came up
say when Lawrence Summers was forced out of Harvard.  Leaving that aside,
and even if progressives did get carried away in the heat of the moment,
it's hard to view the Tea Party types and their advocates as victims of
their political opponents in this context given the volume and weight of
malicious crap they spew out on a daily basis:  Obama as Hitler, remember
that one?  I wouldn't wring my hands about these guys too much.  If anything
liberals and the left have been too timid, a typical response that puts them
in the role of a bunch of chumps and losers, further embolding the right
wing.  I think Trotsky outlined these dynamics in Fascism: What it is and
How to Fight it and Their Morals and Ours: instead of moralistic hand
wringing the left needs to get tough back with these reactionaries.

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