RE: MD: copying to CD burner
You need some kind of sound recorder program on the PC and a connection to your sound card. My recommendation is to use a digital connection as the quality is better than most sound cards analog stage, plus you avoid the d/a + a/d conversions. I tried an analog connection from my Sharp 702 to a Soundblaster Live and the results, while pretty good, did not compare to the same disc transferred using a digital connection. This only works, of course, if your recorder supports digital out (no current model portables do that I know of), or you have a deck with digital out. I use Sound Forge 4.5 to record the information from my minidiscs to a wav file on the pc. Then you can copy that wav file to a CD using a CD burner program (I use Adaptec Easy CD Creator). -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Dewhurst I have a recording on MD that I wish to copy to PC, to be burnt onto a CD. Does anyone have any advice on connections to my sound card (probably not digital), file formats to record in, CD copying issues, quality of this kind of recording, etc.? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sharp MD-X60
Does anybody know anything about the Sharp MD-X5? I won the bid for one on Onsale, but it's on backorder. I've got a chance to cancel the bid now if there's something dissatisfactory about it? I can't find a review on it anywhere to know for sure? How much is a fair price to pay for a refurbished one? I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have. David Fincher - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: mz-r30 vs. sharp 702 ( long post)
Michael Hooker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i recorded my first concert with my new sharp 702. any experience or ideas in using the sharp effectively are appreciated. Mike, I'm writing this without reading about 4 or 5 MD digests, so the answer to your problem may have been resolved by now. I know that is a mortal sin in listserve communities, but heck I just blew off about 5 digests that had nothing to do with MD so I'll probably end up in purgatory instead of hell. Ok, I've used the 702 and Core Sound Mics for many concerts over the last 2 years. Have had nothing but great results with the setup. For louder jazz concerts (~90-110db) I use the mic input on the 702 and have the level set around 9 out of a possible 30. For softer jazz concerts, I'll be in the 12-15 range. For very small classical string ensembles I'm usually set at 15-20. Any only once did I have to get into the 20-25 range and that was a solo piano and solo violin recital I attended. As Martin had suggested, check the power of your battery. That is the most likely cause of the low volume. As far as clicks or pops in the recording, I've not noticed anything in mine. The Sharp 702 that I have has a known artifact that when your changing the recording level from above '18' down to or below '18', the machine will drop out of recording for about 1/10 of a second. You get a very nice blank space in the recording. :( That has been documented before. I'm just very careful when I have to record softer events. Hope this helps, Jerry Jerry Jelinek at work via OS/2[EMAIL PROTECTED] FOR SALE: Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica. 45 volumes. Excellent condition. $1,000.00 or best offer. No longer needed. Got married last weekend. Wife knows everything. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Strange interference... now online :)
Steve Reiss wrote: I was there with my Sharp MS200 and a 2 clip mics on a "yard" (antiquated measuring unit) stick to get stereo separation. As I understand it, stereo separation is normally obtained by using two directional microphones right next to each other. I don't think moving the mics apart produces the same effect. Perhaps someone who knows what they are talking about could explain this ? simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Odp: MD and Creative Soundblaster Platinum
Hi! Sadly, I'm having awful trouble getting it to output digitally, recognise my CD-ROM drive, or do anything really. The software doesn't recognise audio CDs, I can't get any internal SPDIF input from my CD and it basically doesn't seem to work. Normal windows noises and DirectX works okay, games seem fine. My CD is a generic 36x (Ultima Electronics). Could that be the problem? The CD has what looks like a SPDIF out connector (which fits the SB Live cable), but it isn't marked as such, so may not be at all. Although I don't own the platinum, I think that the main problem is your CD, if it doesn't recognize audio cds. As for the digital outputs, make sure that 'Digital Output Only' (or "digital output on") option is checked in the live's mixer. Hope that helps somehow, Regards, ___ /==MacBirdie | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cyfra.prv.pl | gsm://+48602766222 \ p.s. I'm happy - I have player 1024 and it works with my MD perfectly :). You know - just to cheer you up... :) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Strange interference revisited...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's me again with this interference thing. Well, shame on me for going right to the MD list because I assumed it was my portable picking up some weird noise from the nether-lands... I did a little more testing on my last night out on that street: Huh??? From your Sanyo MDR-4 at Walmart mail, I can make up that you're living in the USA So how can you pick up some weird noise from the Netherlands. ~Zach (who now thinks the aliens are not using my MD player, they're using my mind, LOL!) Maybee the Dutch have been invaded and replaced by aliens That would make me one of the last. Cheers, Ralph - Who's a 'strange noise refuge' from the Netherlands and therefore living in France.. -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dropouts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick, Here are some answers to the queries made. Which machine recorded the audio? If a Sony, you could have a marginal '831. Had you ever written titles to the disc before? The name info is in UTOC sector #1 (see http://www.minidisc.org/md_toc.html). If titles were never written before perhaps the 831 is having trouble reading an unwitten title sector. The recording was made on the MZ-R50. Titles have been written on the previous 2 recordings. But then i did the all rease. On the third recording, i only titled the disc name and none other in order to get the 831 to read the TOC. I presume your explanation must be correct because before titling the disc name, the 831 couldn't read the TOC. On another totally different recording done on a TDK MD. The total opposite happens. When playing the last track: 1. No sound dropouts on the 831 2. Sound dropouts on the 930 deck 3. Sound dropouts on the MZ-R50 Which machine recorded the audio on this TDK MD? If on the '831, then here's more evidence that it is somehow out of spec. The recording was done on the 930. And i just found out that there were consistant dropouts throughout the disc while playing back on both 930 and r50. Maybe its a bad disc. But then again, why were there no dropouts on the 831 if the 831 is marginal? Thanks Faizal Hi Faizal, what happens if you record a disc on the 831 and play it on the other machines??? I'm thinking about the following senario: One of the devices is withing specs. The other two are out of spec, but bot in a different way. That means that the one withing spec can probably handle all media, while the other two will have problems with the other ones media... Cheers, Ralph - Who's afraid he wasn't clear.. -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sharp MD-X60
On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 19:29:24 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know anything about the Sharp MD-X5? I won the bid for one on Onsale, but it's on backorder. I've got a chance to cancel the bid now if there's something dissatisfactory about it? I can't find a review on it anywhere to know for sure? How much is a fair price to pay for a refurbished one? I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have. I've got a Sharp MD-X5H, it's an English model (I live in England). AFAIK the only difference between this (the H bit) and the X5 you get in the US, is that it has RDS for the tuner, and allows different language settings for the keyboard. I've been pretty happy with it, titling is really easy with the PS/2 keyboard input on the front of the unit. You get no better than real-time dubbing from CD to MD. It only has digital inputs, too (coax and optical). I've had the odd minor niggle with it, too. But all-in-all I think it's a pretty good unit, and I'm glad I got it - worth the money I spent on it - using a PC keyboard for titling should not be underestimated for the value it adds. Cheers Neil ___ Visit Excite Shopping at http://shopping.excite.com The fastest way to find your Holiday gift this season - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD and Creative Soundblaster Platinum
Alan: I have the SBLive Platinum too. The problem you seem to be having seems more software related than hardare related. What you appear to be trying to do is transfer sound over SPDIF rather than the data connection. This is not necessarily what you want to do. What I would suggest is that you download a CD ripper and try to get tracks off your CD-ROM that way. Do a web search for "CD ripper mp3" and you should get lots of links. There is good free software out there if you dig a little bit. Good CD ripper software will allow you to extract audio tracks from your CD player much faster than going over the SPDIF output. Then from there you can just play them back as wave files using winamp or some other sound player. I wouldn't try randomly plugging the SPDIF connector in, since analog and digital audio formats tend to use very different voltages. Hope this helps, -Matt --On Thursday, January 06, 2000 1:20 AM -0800 Alan Dowds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all Does anyone have any experience with the SB Live Platinum, and LiveDrive II? I though it would be ideal for MD - optical ins outs, etc etc Sadly, I'm having awful trouble getting it to output digitally, recognise my CD-ROM drive, or do anything really. The software doesn't recognise audio CDs, I can't get any internal SPDIF input from my CD and it basically doesn't seem to work. Normal windows noises and DirectX works okay, games seem fine. My CD is a generic 36x (Ultima Electronics). Could that be the problem? The CD has what looks like a SPDIF out connector (which fits the SB Live cable), but it isn't marked as such, so may not be at all. Thanks Alan (Who's happy he didn't pay full retail for the thing) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Praise for a couple of retailers
It is common in maililng lists to complain about poor service, but I would like to do just the opposite. GlobalMart in Logan Utah provided me with a Sony ECM-MS957 microphone for the low price of $210 and free shipping. The mic arrived in just a few days after ordering. Nice work! Electronic Express Catalog in Nashville supplied me with an Aiwa AMF70 portable for $230 and had it here in two days. Excellent service and easy ordering. Bravo to both of them for their good prices and quick service. (I am not affiliated with either of these businesses.) -- P. Grover Cleveland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Llareggub District Light Railway Penn Valley, California, USA - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: The noise. (Now online)
Hi List! When i listened to the sound, i only heard the very high television beep. (The high tone.) I thought that was everything, But when i used winamp, i adjusted 6k, 14k, 12k, 16k, on the EQ, and then i could hear the REAL noise. I was very surprised. It sounded like a AM Tuner which was tuned between 2 stations. This might be a sort of noise that comes from the spinning of the MD-Walkman motor. This might be a hint for everyone who does not hear anything special. Greetings, Joost (Don't mind my bad English...) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: The noise. (Now online)
Hi List! When i listened to the sound, i only heard the very high television beep. (The high tone.) I thought that was everything, But when i used winamp, i adjusted 6k, 14k, 12k, 16k, on the EQ, and then i could hear the REAL noise. I was very surprised. It sounded like a AM Tuner which was tuned between 2 stations. This might be a sort of noise that comes from the spinning of the MD-Walkman motor. This might be a hint for everyone who does not hear anything special. Greetings, Joost (Don't mind my bad English...) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: 240 V
I'm going to buy my first MD, a Sony Mz-R91 from Hong Kong for use in Australia. I'd like to know whether its better to buy the 110V japanese version or the slightly more expensive Hongkong version which is 220V. However australia uses 240V. is it ok to just get the 110V and use some converter to change it to 240V? thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dropouts
what happens if you record a disc on the 831 and play it on the other machines??? I'm thinking about the following senario: One of the devices is withing specs. The other two are out of spec, but bot in a different way. That means that the one withing spec can probably handle all media, while the other two will have problems with the other ones media... I haven't tried recording on the 831 but i really hope that the 930 in not out of spec coz its been a great unit all along. It doesn't even have the divide rehersal problem widely reported. Just a note, these 2 MDs are the only ones with dropouts i've come across out of the 150+ collection that i have. Could just be a bad batch of machine spec dependant blanks...or plain bad luck. Cheers Faizal __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: 240 V
Hi, I'm going to buy my first MD, a Sony Mz-R91 from Hong Kong for use in Australia. I'd like to know whether its better to buy the 110V japanese version or the slightly more expensive Hongkong version which is 220V. However australia uses 240V. is it ok to just get the 110V and use some converter to change it to 240V? Well, the 220 is actually designed to work with any voltage of 220 to 250V, that is because all former 220V countries are gradually increasing the voltage to a final 250V. The same thing is happening here in Holland. Actually, they're standardising on 230V, +/- 5% according to information available here in the UK, but as you say, a 220V transformer will work fine - they're made to quite wide tolerances. Nope, it's going to 250, but the current standard is 230.. And yes, you could also use a transformer to convert your 240V to 110V, the diiference is that you then have two transformers, one outside your md, 240 - 110, and one inside which converts from 110 to 12 or so. the point is that loss occurs in every transformation, although this is very little there still is some. and there'll be always some current flowing in the 240 - 110 converter unless you want to turn on/off the converter and md every time, so there's some loss to. Erm, the R-91 is a portable, is it not? I think it would be a tad bulky if it had a 110 to 12V transformer inside it :-) Oops, my mistake. Sorry, what's transformer loss? I don't think it's got a lot to do with powering an MD walkman... well, a transformer converts to magnetic and back, some of the magnatism 'escapes' there's no influence on your md, but there is some loss... If you go for the Japanese one, you'll end up with a brick-in-the-wall transformer which converts from 240-110, then the 110-DC transformer which comes with the Sony. You might also end up with a Japanese to Australian plug convertor if you buy your 240-110 adaptor in Japan, which is another thing sticking out of the wall. A mate of mine had this problem when he bought a Sharp 831 from Japan - he had UK-Euro240-110110-DC which caused no end of problems with dodgy connections, so I got him a 240V to 5V power supply and put the right DC plug on it for him. Yeah, with a protable that works just fine as long as you match current and power. You'd be much better off going for the Hong Kong version, for which you may or may not need a plug convertor - don't know what Hong Kong and Australian plugs look like... As, i said that'd be the simplest solution, and for a portable it is even more so. So all in all, you would be just fine using a japanese one and a converter, but buying a Hongkong version would be better. the only thing to consider is frequency, in europe we use 60 Hz in America they use 50 Hz, I don't know about other countries, and I don't know if the md is bothered by it... if it is you'd have to use a converter anyway. Sorry matey, wrong again. Europe is 50Hz, America is 60Hz. This won't affect the MD in any way, Got them confused.. Don't I feel foolish... since the 50/60Hz AC will be rectified to DC before it goes anywhere near the MD itself. The mains frequency only affects things like TVs and mains powered clocks which rely on the mains frequency as their timebase. Yep, indeed the portable wouldn't have any problems with that, a deck however could be using the ac frequency for something, very unlikely, but it could. As I say, you're better off in all aspects with the Hong Kong one :-) yep, it'd save a lot of hassle, especially with a portable, with a deck you could consider it since you only setup once and leave for the rest of time... Next time i really got to check what I'm writing... that was soo stupid... Bye, Remko van der Vossen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Black Angel, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 48056779 EDA and owner of [EMAIL PROTECTED] fan of Jewel, The X-Files, Chris Carter, Mac Gyver, BtVS, Jane Jensen's Gabriel Knight Pretty; "There is a pretty girl on the Face of this magazine And all I can see are my dirty hands turning the page" Jewel - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: 240 V
md, 240 - 110, and one inside which converts from 110 to 12 or so. the point is that loss occurs in every transformation, although this is very little there still is some. and there'll be always some current flowing in the 240 - 110 converter unless you want to turn on/off the converter and md every time, so there's some loss to. Erm, the R-91 is a portable, is it not? I think it would be a tad bulky if it had a 110 to 12V transformer inside it :-) Sorry, what's transformer loss? I don't think it's got a lot to do with powering an MD walkman... I think he meant that if the 240 to 110 convertor was always plugged into the wall, even though nothing was plugged into it, the transformer would still "use" electricity (and generate heat in the process). Other than that, I'm not sure what he could have meant. If you go for the Japanese one, you'll end up with a brick-in-the-wall transformer which converts from 240-110, then the 110-DC transformer which Actually, It's 100V in Japan, not 110. It does make a difference to the point that a Japanese transformer rated to work at 100V plugged into an 110V source could damage the portable. If you are getting a Japanese model, make sure you have a 240-100V transformer (or at worst, a 240-110V then a 110V-100V). I ended up buying a 110V to 100V when i moved from Japan back to Canada. Wayne - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: 240 V
Hi I'm in Australia also; I just ordered my MZ-R91 (japanese version) from www.minidiscweb.com . They are supplying a suitable transformer for 240V for free. They didn't say exactly what it was, but i asked what i needed and they said they'd include it for no extra charge. Could try their web site see if they got any info on it. Cheers, Jason -Original Message- From: L K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 January 2000 5:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: 240 V I'm going to buy my first MD, a Sony Mz-R91 from Hong Kong for use in Australia. I'd like to know whether its better to buy the 110V japanese version or the slightly more expensive Hongkong version which is 220V. However australia uses 240V. is it ok to just get the 110V and use some converter to change it to 240V? thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Aiwa AM F70 display question
I have recently brought an Aiwa AM F70 and I am very pleased with it. However I wonder if someone knows if there is some test mode within which I could change the display angle (often referred to as contrast) slightly on the main unit. I am partially sighted and the display whilst readable would be easier if I could tweak it a little so that it was clearer when viewed from right above. Any thoughts. Tris [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD and Creative Soundblaster Platinum
From: Alan Dowds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:20 AM Subject: MD: MD and Creative Soundblaster Platinum Does anyone have any experience with the SB Live Platinum, and LiveDrive II? I though it would be ideal for MD - optical ins outs, etc etc Yep. I have one that I use daily. Sadly, I'm having awful trouble getting it to output digitally From the LiveDrive2 optical ports? Pull the plug out of the optical out - you should see a red light. If you don't then you may have forgotton to connect the power to the LiveDrive, or may not have connected the ribbon cable to the sound card. If the ribbon cable is there, check it is connected to the correct pat of LiveDrive2 - there are two identical looking points to connect the cable, but one is input and one is output. You could also try plugging headphones into the headphone socket on the LiveDrive to see if you have sound. Digital output is enabled all the time the card is on, even when running games. recognise my CD-ROM drive THe CD-ROM drive is controlled by Windows - I assume you mean that you just can't hear the CDs? If you run the CD-Player program in Windows, will it seem to play a CD but without any sound? If so then this is a simple matter of your CD ROM drive just not having a digital output, in which case you need to connect using analogue cables instead. or do anything really. The software doesn't recognise audio CDs, I can't get any internal SPDIF input from my CD and it basically doesn't seem to work. Not getting internal SPDIF input to the card usually implies there is no SPDIF output from the CD-ROM drive, or you have the connector the wrong way round. Normal windows noises and DirectX works okay, games seem fine. If you have your speakers plugged into the main card and it is working, this supports the likelyhood you have not connected your LiveDrive correctly. I would open up the PC and double check all the connections. My CD is a generic 36x (Ultima Electronics). Could that be the problem? The CD has what looks like a SPDIF out connector (which fits the SB Live cable), but it isn't marked as such, so may not be at all. If it is unmarked, that may be because it isn't connected inside the CD-ROM drive. Most CD-ROMs have the connector present because it is part of the standard design of the casing, but not all have it connected to anything, so not all of them work. You can use analogue cables in the same way you connected to your old card if this is the case. Hope this helps! Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Aiwa AM F70 display question
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:25:22 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently brought an Aiwa AM F70 and I am very pleased with it. However I wonder if someone knows if there is some test mode within which I could change the display angle (often referred to as contrast) slightly on the main unit. I am partially sighted and the display whilst readable would be easier if I could tweak it a little so that it was clearer when viewed from right above. Any thoughts. I've not managed to come across any info for service mode on the F70 / F65 (got an F65 personally). Last time I looked there wasn't any details on minidisc.org So if anyone does know, or you come across any info, I'd be most interested. Cheers Neil ___ Visit Excite Shopping at http://shopping.excite.com The fastest way to find your Holiday gift this season - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Stereo mic'ing | Re: Strange interference... now online :)
In a message dated 1/6/00 12:54:27 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /|\/|\ if you are gonna listen to it on earphones, the mikes should be the same as the distance between your ears. If you are gonna listen to it on a stereo system, the mikes should be about the same as the speakers. /|\/|\ How is stereo seperation generally handled in music production? In other words, when I buy a CD, what are the engineering the sound for -- far apart speakers, cheap PC speakers close together or headphones or...? :) From previous live recordings I've done I've found that a few inches apart works well because I am usually listening to my stuff on headphones... I am curious to know how produced music filters into that. ~Zach http://start.at/cens - The Cutting Edge of Nothing Significant - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD and Creative Soundblaster Platinum
Magic, Matt, Maciej, Thanks for the help guys. The LiveDrive was connected okay, and by further experimentation, I've managed to make some optical recordings to my 702. But the software still refuses to recognise audio CDs (disc detector says they are data, Minidisc Center says unsupported disc) If I play them using Windows CD player, I can record using Record center, then play back as a WAV file. Is it just me, or is the Creative software a bit fiddly? What I really want to do is use the LiveDrive to get optical digital out from CDs (my hi fi CD deck is a Cambridge Audio with only co-ax out) Maybe I need a new CD ROM. Or a new CD deck. Or a MD deck. Cheers, Alan (One day, technology will level out and I won't need to upgrade, replace or buy any more new bloody kit) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]