RE: MD: store MP3s for free?

2000-01-14 Thread Grant Goodale


I'll add www.freediskspace.com to that list - if you're willing to part
with personal demographic information (not that I'm recommending that
practice) you can get 300MB or more of free online storage.

They've got a bunch of similar sites, all connected - www.freemp3space.com,
www.freelinuxspace.com, etc. etc.

Not affiliated, just a happy user

G

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These sites might interest some people.  I haven't tried them, and I
don't know what their angle is, but they say they are free.

http://www.xdrive.com/cgi-bin/signup_form.cgi

https://ecom99.mp3.com/my?MyType=MyLogin


The one says you can store anything you want.

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MD: OT: Just got a message I sent to the list from two weeks ago...

2000-01-14 Thread Neil


Sorry to post an off-topic message, but I've just received a message in my
inbox, that was sent to the list on 30/12/1999. AFAIK / can remember, it
appeared on the list at the time.

Has anybody else got this message sent to them, the date does clearly show
as above.

Anyways, I didn't send it personally, and I'm bemused by it - I keep
up-to-date with virus signatures, as I have auto-update configured for my
virus scanner's datfiles, so I don't think it's a virus.

A bit of a mystery to me, and sorry if it has been received by others, but I
haven't re-sent it.

Cheers

Neil





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RE: MD: optical cords!

2000-01-14 Thread Simon Barnes


Gary wrote:

... And if anyone 
 tells you any different (i.e. an "Audiophile" magazine) you can be assured
 
 that they are lying to you in an attempt to become some sort of strange 
 shaman or wizard of the audio world who can hear what you cannot,
 
I suspect a lot of them are lying to themselves as well. People like to have
an input. The "hard" viewpoint (to which I aspire) says digital is digital,
the wires don't matter, the brand doesn't matter, we're constrained by the
laws of physics - basically, it's a doctrine of despair. 

The audiophile is involved. Everything matters. You can make a real
difference by balancing everything on spikes and using £100 per metre
cables, colouring in the edges of your CD's. There's no end to the tips and
tricks. Enjoy.

simon
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RE: MD: DMX

2000-01-14 Thread tommie



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Hello Cool Guy (?)
I have had the Terratec DMX for 2-3 months now. What would you like to know ?

Regards,
Tom Daniels
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Hey guys,
I havent been on MD-L for a while but im bak. Great to see some old faces
and  new ones. I've got a question for all of you. have any of you tried
the Terratec Soundsystm DMX. Is it a good card? If anyone can tell me about
their experiences with it, I would greatly appreciate it. Ive seen online
reviews and they dont help very much. I need some real world results.
Thanks again

Cool Guy



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Re: MD: DMX

2000-01-14 Thread Alexander Dietrich


Edward Nigma wrote:

 and  new ones. I've got a question for all of you. have any of you tried
 the Terratec Soundsystm DMX. Is it a good card? If anyone can tell me about
 their experiences with it, I would greatly appreciate it. Ive seen online
 reviews and they dont help very much. I need some real world results.

I don't own it myself, but the last things I heard about it were not
very positive. The early driver releases were said to be quite buggy
with strange control panel behaviour regarding digital recording/play-
back and the SCMS settings. One or two advertised features weren't
implemented. But you should probably check out one of the hardware
newsgroups for the current situation.
BTW, Hoontech sells a Yamaha soundcard with digital in/out bracket
for a low price. Unfortunately no Linux drivers though.

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RE: MD: Hi-Space Disc Problems?

2000-01-14 Thread metatron


Based on postings over the months to this list, and from my own experience,
it seems that most people experience a glitch with a disc from time to time,
but there isn't any consistency with the brand of disc that gives the
problem, be it cheap or expensive [with maybe the exception of Memorex,
though I'm sure lots of people have no problems with them]. My Sony JE520
doesn't like some TDK  JVC discs, which need an extra big push to get them
to load, whereas others with the same machine swear by TDK and have
encountered something similar with Sony discs. I would say that there are
idiosyncrasies in the tolerances of each recorder, and that by and large the
discs themselves are usually OK. I would stick with the cheapest / most
attractive that work for your machine.

John

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RE: MD: Hi-Space Disc Problems?

2000-01-14 Thread Andrew Hobgood


 Based on postings over the months to this list, and from my own experience,
 it seems that most people experience a glitch with a disc from time to time,
 but there isn't any consistency with the brand of disc that gives the
 problem, be it cheap or expensive [with maybe the exception of Memorex,

Yeah... the Memorex's have been particularly fragile in my experience, and
generally unreliable under high-vibration recording conditions and 
high-impact storage and playback environments... I tend to make bootlegs of
techno shows where the recorder gets bumped significantly, and I've found
that Sony discs give me the fewest skips.  Also, I listen to discs in a
Sharp '702 that rides in my jacket or backpack pocket, and I also store 
discs there... they suffer a great deal of throwing around and dropping in 
an average day on campus.  For me, the Sony Onyx and color collection discs
are the most reliable.  I've found that the metal shutters on the Hi-Space 
discs tend to get dented or bent, making them difficult to slide, whereas
the thin, flexible plastic shutters that are on the Sony's return to their
original shape after deformation and are *extremely* durable.

 discs themselves are usually OK. I would stick with the cheapest / most
 attractive that work for your machine.

And for your application... for someone who handles their discs carefully,
Hi-Space is probably a good bet... another question: does anyone have 
experience with the Axia discs from MiniDisco.com?  The ones from Japan 
that have Hello Kitty or other cool designs on them?  My girlfriend just
purchased a 722 and is trying to figure out which discs to purchase.

/Andrew

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Re: MD: optical cords! Yes, there can be a difference.

2000-01-14 Thread P. Grover Cleveland


There can indeed be differences in fiber optic cables. The question is
whether or not these differences will affect the sound. (I worked in the
telecommunications and broadacst industries for many years teaching, amongst
other things, fiberoptics.)

The differences between "quality" and lesser cables will usually be
mechanical, but this is not limited to quantification of strength. The
problem with cables of poor quality may be their alignment within the
connector housing. If the cables are misaligned, then the level of optical
signal will go down. At some point, when the received signal is attenuated
far enough, the bit error rate (BER) of the signal begins to increase and
artifacts begin to show up in the recovered signal. Exactly what the
receiving device does with digital signals in which there is a significant
BER, depends upon the digital circuitry within the device.

Another issue is that the fibre simply does not make a close coupling with
the receiving diode because it is too far back in the housing. One of the
demonstrations I used was to slowly attenuate the optical signal by pulling
the cable out and watching the BER meter, at the same as listening to the
recovered audio. Indeed, at some point the audio will become distorted and
eventually disappear.

Now will this in reality affect your audio signal? Attenuation of the
optical signal due to misalignment or poor coupling might be a problem, but
at the distances involved in out systems, there is plenty of overhead and it
shouldn't have any affect. Additionally we are talking about our multimode
optical cable, and alignment is simply not as critical as with the
long-distance, high-bandwidth singlemode cables that are used in the
broadcast and telecom industries.

If you are really anal about all of this, then run this test: play through
the optical cable and listen carefully as you slowly pull the optical
connector (either end will do) out of the receptacle. You will probably be
able to get a tenth of an inch out before you begin to lose the signal,
maybe more. If you are getting a signal when you start this little test and
you can move the connector out even a little and still get a signal, then
you have enough optical power getting to the receiver.

If you are really, really concerned, then you can always clean the ends of
the cable with denatured alcohol. (Send pictures - I'd like a good laugh.)

What this all really means is that you shouldn't worry about it. Enjoy the
music.


Iechyd da (that's "good health" in Welsh),

Grover Cleveland
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RE: MD: Hi-Space Disc Problems?

2000-01-14 Thread tommie



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Hi all,
I have several Hi-Space disks. I have the red ones, the coloured ones and the 
blue 80 mins. They give no problem whatsoever for me, except for the 80 mins 
disks. The only unit that will read these is my JB920. My Car unit (Sony 
MDX-C7890R) and my portable (MZ-R30) won't read them ! A friend of mine has 
problems woth all Hi-Space disks in his stereo (also Sony)

Kind regards,
Tom Daniels
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So far I've used about 30 Hi-Space 74's (the red fruity ones) without a 
single
problem.  Then again none of my original Sony Black 74s (ten or so) have
had probs and quite a few peeps have reported problems with them.
I'm tempted to ask whether you're using a Sony MD unit or some dubious
"other" manufacturer :-)
Cheers,
PrinceGaz -- "hey I'm not biased, I just happen to favor Sony MD stuff!"

From: "Martin Schiff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have used about 20 Hi-space discs with no problems so far.
 -- Martin

 I've been using a lot of Hi-Space discs that I bought in quantity. I've not
 had any real problems, so far, although I've occasionally noticed that my 
MD
 recorder sometimes makes a very soft clicking or whining noise when I'm
 recording with them; it doesn't seem to do that with other brands.  Within
 the last couple of days, I've heard from two different people that they 
have
 had problems with Hi-Space(unit won't read TOC, disc needs to be reinserted
 multiple times into unit before it will read TOC).  Is this a coincidence 
or
 are other MD users familiar with problems using Hi-Space?
 Thanks.
 Chris Callahan


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Re: MD: Hi-Space Disc Problems?

2000-01-14 Thread Ralph Smeets


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've been using a lot of Hi-Space discs that I bought in quantity. I've not
 had any real problems, so far, although I've occasionally noticed that my MD
 recorder sometimes makes a very soft clicking or whining noise when I'm
 recording with them; it doesn't seem to do that with other brands.  Within
 the last couple of days, I've heard from two different people that they have
 had problems with Hi-Space(unit won't read TOC, disc needs to be reinserted
 multiple times into unit before it will read TOC).  Is this a coincidence or
 are other MD users familiar with problems using Hi-Space?
 
 Thanks.

I've got about 50 HiSpace discs, 30 of them are the cheaper red discs, 
the other are the colour discs. No problems so far. I've got about
20 Sony Premium discs and they are also functioning fine.

The only unit that sometimes gives me troubles is the 7900R car-head. Both
the Sony and the HiSpace disc give a problem when it's freezing outside.
When the car is warmed-up, all works fine!

Cheers,
Ralph - Why pay more if you can get the same quality for less.
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RE: MD: DMX

2000-01-14 Thread Edward Nigma



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Does the digital I/O work?
How is good is theAX and A3D compatability? Also does theSCMS work?

And what is your overall impression of the card? Are the drivers godd and
error free?
Thanks
CG


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Hello Cool Guy (?)
I have had the Terratec DMX for 2-3 months now. What would you like to know ?

Regards,
Tom Daniels
= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Hey guys,
I havent been on MD-L for a while but im bak. Great to see some old faces
and  new ones. I've got a question for all of you. have any of you tried
the Terratec Soundsystm DMX. Is it a good card? If anyone can tell me about
their experiences with it, I would greatly appreciate it. Ive seen online
reviews and they dont help very much. I need some real world results.
Thanks again

Cool Guy



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Re: MD: Audio Eccentricities [was optical cords!]

2000-01-14 Thread J. Coon


metatron wrote:
 
 I've read a few deranged magazine reviews reporting the 'openness',
 'clarity' etc of different brands of optical cable, the superiority of
 expensive brands of MD and other foolishness,  but given the cut and dried
 nature of digital equipment, I suppose there are very few areas left for
 really  _creative_ reviewing compared with the uncertainties and
 idiosyncrasies of analogue.


snip

 I'm sure many of you must remember colouring the edges of CD's
 green to do something or other with reflected laser light, but did you know
 that by using a purple marker on the prongs of your mains plug [and for the
 really enthusiastic, any plugs on the same circuit] could give awesome
 results?
 
 Given such a rich heritage, is it any wonder that reviewers can hear
 differences between two brands of cable?
 
 John [who is convinced that blue Sony MD's have a firmer midrange than any
 of the other colours]

NO it's the gold ones.  You are all wet behind the ears if you think its
the blue Sonys that have that effect.


Just kidding.  It is amazing, the crap that these magazines will say to
get people to buy the magazine.  See, it is this way,  if they say
something controversial, even if it is completely false and outrageous,
people will buy the magazine that don't know anything about how things
really work, and then ask someone that knows a little more but hasn't
bought the magazine.   This person will then go out and buy the magazine
so he can see what foolishness was written.  They sell another magazine
and its more $$ in their pocket.  Besides, the guy probably had just
bought stock in safety pins and magic marker industries.  


If anyone thinks they can hear the difference in two optical cables that
is shorter than several miles, they are well they probably won't be
able to read this anyway.  :)

Even at several miles, if it is digital they will sound the same.  the
only real difference it on one cable, you could make it longer before
loosing the signal. 

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RE: MD: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors

2000-01-14 Thread RJ Kirkland


ATRAC can never surpass CD quality since it stores less information than
CD-DA. For the same reasons, equal quality is also theoretically
impossible, and practically impossible without increasing the bit stream
allowed (24-bits/sample I believe).

Actually the amount of data stored on an MD could be increased by 8x
without a blue laser, simply a slightly different red one. MD-Data2 uses
the different laser and a smaller track pitch to achieve a 5x increase in
disk capacity. Maxell has already prototyped a MD-Data that can store in
excess of 1.5gigs of data. But in both of these cases they will (most
likely) never be applied to MD audio because of fear that it would hurt the
original MD format customer base. I think it would be a great idea, but I
understand how it could potentially hurt MD's use in the US especially. The
other problem faced by increasing just the size of the disc, is that you
will have to record at 1x speed from most sources, except for the Sony
CD-MD machine which would allow faster speeds (I doubt more than10x would
ever be released for complexities sake). Companies like EDL offer a way for
faster access and recording, but like alot of proprietary solutions, they
priced their product to make a large profit off of a small user base,
instead of the converse. So since at ~$8,000USD it is out of the reach of
most people, it has not become a popular piece of software, and MD has
suffered. If it had been cheaper then MDH-10/11 (MD-Data drives) would have
been higher leading to increased production and possibly better drives in
the future.

My $0.02,
 RJ Kirkland

Regarding MiniDisc compression, I see that now there is an ATRAC-R. How
well does it rate as compared to earlier versions? Since MD's compression
algorithm is constantly being upgraded, could MD one day be equal to or
surpass CD sound?

Also, I believe I read in the January/February issue of SOUND  VISION
that using a certain color laser (blue?) could practically quadruple the
amount of data stored on an MD. Could this mean one of the following: (1)
that MD could store the same amount of data as CD without compression,
resulting in uncompressed, true CD-quality sound in the same amount of
time? or (2) that using ATRAC compression, up to 4x the amount of music
could be on one MD? If so, either could be a boon to the MD format!

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RE: MD: Hi-Space Disc Problems?

2000-01-14 Thread Martin Schiff


I have used about 20 Hi-space discs with no problems so far.

-- Martin

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I've been using a lot of Hi-Space discs that I bought in quantity. I've not
had any real problems, so far, although I've occasionally noticed that my MD
recorder sometimes makes a very soft clicking or whining noise when I'm
recording with them; it doesn't seem to do that with other brands.  Within
the last couple of days, I've heard from two different people that they have
had problems with Hi-Space(unit won't read TOC, disc needs to be reinserted
multiple times into unit before it will read TOC).  Is this a coincidence or
are other MD users familiar with problems using Hi-Space?

Thanks.

Chris Callahan
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Re: MD: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors

2000-01-14 Thread Magic


From: RJ Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: MD: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors



 ATRAC can never surpass CD quality since it stores less information than
 CD-DA. For the same reasons, equal quality is also theoretically
 impossible, and practically impossible without increasing the bit stream
 allowed (24-bits/sample I believe).


The quality of the sound *could* be increased with ATRAC to surpass CD
quality. It is possible to store the same information by simply not storing
what you don't need. Take this message you are reading for example. You can
still read it, although it is now only 7 bit, despite the fact that before I
sent it, it was an 8 bit message. The unused data was removed without making
any difference to the used data. This means I now have 1 bit of data in
which I can store something else.

A CD is 16 bit and can store all frequencies between 0Hz and 22.05kHz. If I
were to use a different method of storing the same data, it would still give
the same end result. If this method allowed me to remove the inaudible
part - the 0 to 20Hz range for example, I could then use this "spare data"
to store something else.

There's also another method of storing the same data in a smaller space :
compression.

If I take a sound file which is 44.1kHz in 16bit, the same as CD, and ZIP it
with WinZIP, it occupies less space. If I did this with all the music from
one of my CDs, I could probably copy those ZIP files onto another CD and fit
two CDs worth of music onto it (although a normal CD player couldn't play
it). I now have twice as much information stored on the same capacity disc.

If the ATRAC system were improved enough, it is not inconceivable that it
could eventually exceed CD quality.

Magic
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Re: MD: Titling MDs

2000-01-14 Thread J. C. R. Davis


Originally, JCRD wrote:
+ Disc
+ Track A (track on a one-artist album); or
+ Track B (track on a various artist album)

Andrew Hobgood [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded with . . .
Elaborate... I've never seen/heard of a secondary track title that's 
accessible on minidiscs... is this a shortcoming in my '702, or am I
misunderstanding your point?  I only know of Disc Title and Track Title.

==

My apologies for this not being clear. Yes, there are only disc and track
titles, but I divided track titles into 2 groups: those titles on MDs by
one artist (type A), and those titles on MDs by various artists (type B).

For example, a movie soundtrack would generally fall under type B, as
many artists usually contribute. A possible track title -- usually the
song title in all caps, followed by the artist in mixed case -- could
read as follows: "COME BY ME / Harry Connick Jr."

However, a type A album would be your general one-artist album ("Hey,
have you heard this new album from ___?"). The titles are usually all
caps, as follows: "COME BY ME".

Is this any clearer?
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Re: MD: Audio Eccentricities [was optical cords!]

2000-01-14 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


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MD: MDX-C670RDS manual?

2000-01-14 Thread Francisco Jose Montilla


Hi!

I've browsed and searched trhough this list archives before buying
MD equipment; both this list and the minidisc.org are great!

I have been offered a used MDX-C670RDS at a reasonable (very)
price, but problem is there's no user manual. I know it will be
relatively easy to operate it, but I'm a RTFM maniac, and also would like
to know about wired remote compatibility, possible add-ons (CD-Chargers,
et al).

There's any kind soul out there that could send me scans? It will
be a nice addition also for the minidisc.org site!

Thanks in advance,

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