MD: TOS Link Stupid Question
Hi Everyone, This may sound a bit of a basic question, but my Toshiba DVD player has an optical output (Toslink I think it is). Anyway, is it possible to connect this to an MD portable recorder via a toslink/mini jack-style optical cable? If so, are there concerns about sample rate conversion etc..? Or is it impossible? If so, what do you use the optical output for? I hope I've explained myself well enough, any help gratefully received. Martin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email with attachments is solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Please also be aware that DnB cannot accept any payment orders or other legally binding correspondence with customers as a part of an email. This email message has been virus checked by the virus programs used in the DnB Group. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: TOS Link Stupid Question
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:55:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, This may sound a bit of a basic question, but my Toshiba DVD player has an optical output (Toslink I think it is). Anyway, is it possible to connect this to an MD portable recorder via a toslink/mini jack-style optical cable? If so, are there concerns about sample rate conversion etc..? Or is it impossible? If so, what do you use the optical output for? I hope I've explained myself well enough, any help gratefully received. Martin Normally the digital outs on DVD players (coax or optical) tend to be for connection to A/V amps ie Dolby Digital or possibly DTS (assuming that either your DVD player doesn't have onboard decoders, or that you'd prefer to use an external decoder / amp). That doesn't mean that's the only use you can make of the digital out - you could simply connect it to a normal audio amp (that accepts the appropriate digital connection) simply for use of an external amp and speakers, when watching DVDs (assuming you have no digital decoders, but simply want perhaps better quality sound, than simply between your DVD player and your TVs speakers). Whether you'd realise any benefit, in this scenario, and just simply connecting the analogue audio outs to the analogue audio ins on an amp - is probably unlikely - unless there is considerable (likely) disparity between the DACs in the DVD player, and your amp. Most DVD players (all?) can be used as simple CD players, also, so you could use the optical out, with an appropriate cable, to connect to the optical in on your MD portie. Most (all?) of the porties I've come across have sample rate convertors, so it shouldn't be a problem if the DVD player outputs at a higher rate than the MD format uses. Depending on the DVD player you use, you may, or may not have issues with track marks being correctly recorded by your MD recorder when you use the optical connection for recording of CDs. You may also have to configure the type of signal emitted (PCM or bitstream) from your DVD players digital out. Personally, I've used the digital (and analogue) outs from my DVD player to record audio from DVDs. However my DVD player only has a coax digital out, so I have to either connect it to my bookshelf MD unit (for a digital connection), or use a convertor to connect it to one of my porties using an optical connection. Quite often I simply use the analogue outs connected to the analogue line in on my porties, when I want to record. HTH Neil ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MiniDisc.org down?
When did this happen? Everytime I try to access MiniDisc.org, I get a 404... Did I miss some announcement, or is this a temporary thing? There hasn't been an anouncement, but it is defintiely broke. If you are looking for some info and need to access it, you can get in through the uk mirror site - http://www.amulation.co.uk/minidisc Ian = "First, there were some amoebas. Deviant amoebas adapted better to the environment, thus becoming monkeys. Then came Total Quality Management." -- Scott Adams http://www.btinternet.com/~ighorsey __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Promotion : Minidiscs As Low As $1.34 Each
Yesterday, I did a small mistake with the coupon code... I sent you the wrong one... It was a coupon for $10 on $100 order... This is now the good coupon, the $10 OFF on a $25 ORDER... http://www.buyitonline.com/coupons/coupons.asp?couponid=4792JCK This offer is for New Buy It Online Customer only ! One coupon per customer and per Household ! By the way, we also sell really great pack of CD-R, High Quality available in our store... Best Regards, Peter Subject: MD: Promotion : Minidiscs As Low As $1.34 Each We now have a brand new store on Buy It Online ! For every New Buy It Online only, there is a big promotion price for any order of $25 and more... Yes, for New Customer only, you can take advantage on your first order of $10 OFF for any $25 ORDER. And, what is great too, is that every order on Buy It Online is FREE SHIPPING (the price you see is the price you pay !). Simply click on this link to have the rebate coupons of $10 OFF on every $25 ORDER : http://www.buyitonline.com/coupons/coupons.asp?couponid=5251SHA After, simply visit our Buy It Online store at : http://www.buyitonline.com/kheopsminidisc As easy as this ! Also, on every order, I give you one FREE Techno Color 74mn Minidisc. This is a list of price you will pay (after the $10 coupon) : 15 Red Minidisc + 1 Techno MD (16 MD) :$21.50 ($1.34 each MD) 15 Clear MD + 1 Techno MD (16 MD) :$22.50 ($1.40 each MD) 15 Colors (5) MD + 1 Techno MD (16 MD) :$25.00 ($1.56 each MD) 10 Colors MD + Case + 1 Techno MD(11 MD + Case):$15.00 ($1.36 each MD) 15 Techno MD + 1 Techno MD (16 MD) :$26.00 ($1.62 each MD) 10-74mn + 5-80mn + 1 Techno MD (16 MD) :$25.50 ($1.59 each MD) 10 Colors 80mn MD + 1 Techno MD (11 MD):$18.50 ($1.68 each MD) 8 Pack Sony + Case + 1 Techno MD (9 MD + Case) :$15.00 ($1.67 each MD) And a lot more products, such storage case, MD Towers, CD-R ! This offer is for New Buy It Online Customer only ! One coupon per customer and per Household ! Best Regards, Peter - Pierre Forest - Kheops Minidisc Owner http://www.kheopsminidisc.com http://www.buyitonline.com/kheopsminidisc - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sanyo unit: 50 quid in Dixons?
The Dixons branch in Welwyn (Hertfordshire, England... where I work) is closing in a few days for a refit, and, as a result, there are plenty of bargains to be in the realms of audio. One thing that really caught my eye was a sleek half-width silver MD unit, manufactured by Sanyo. The 'Manager's Bargain' card identified the item as a '007MD', though it actually looks as if it comes from one of their bookshelf systems. It's going for a mere gbp49.99 (ex-dem) - the cheapest MD unit I think I've ever seen (I don't think I've even seen early Sony portable players going for less than 55-60 quid on Tottenham Court Road). Now, this has all the appearances of a separate deck, but may well be next to useless for recording outside of the context of its bookshelf system. Can anyone shed any light on this (I couldn't see round the back of the unit; nor was it connected to the mains)? If it *does* have, at the very least, a TOSlink input and, hopefully, standard RCA ins/outs then it's a bargain - and would make a very nice cheap introduction to MD for someone. So, the Sanyo 007MD (or, more likely, the MD component in the X5CM system) anyone? Mike. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: minidisc.org domain name hitch
Don't worry about this... We can all forget this kind of thing... I didn't knew that Network Solution were so dragstic when we don't pay in time ! By the way, I don't know if this could be interesting for the mailing list, but I just end this morning all the 3D picture of all the Blanks Minidisc I sell (and pack). They are in our 3D section of our Website : http://www.kheopsminidisc.com/3D.htm If you have time, you can check them out and tell me what do you think about it... Best Regards, Pierre Forest. P.S. I will receive some news about the $15 OFF on $25 ORDER this afternoon... I will let you know... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Woudenberg Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: minidisc.org domain name hitch Hi Folks, I forgot to pay my Network Solutions bill :-( Minidisc.org should be rechable via DNS within 24-48 hours. You can still reach the US site at: http://206.34.200.170 The mirrors are: http://hive.me.gu.edu.au/~csand/md/mdpage/minidisc/ http://www.jyu.fi/minidisc http://www.hip.atr.co.jp/~eaw/minidisc.html http://www.amulation.com/minidisc Sorry! Rick - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: TOS Link Stupid Question
This was very useful. I am currently considering getting a dvd player. What feature can I look for to make sure that it will be able to make the track marks using the optical out? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: TOS Link Stupid Question On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:55:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, This may sound a bit of a basic question, but my Toshiba DVD player has an optical output (Toslink I think it is). Anyway, is it possible to connect this to an MD portable recorder via a toslink/mini jack-style optical cable? If so, are there concerns about sample rate conversion etc..? Or is it impossible? If so, what do you use the optical output for? I hope I've explained myself well enough, any help gratefully received. Martin Normally the digital outs on DVD players (coax or optical) tend to be for connection to A/V amps ie Dolby Digital or possibly DTS (assuming that either your DVD player doesn't have onboard decoders, or that you'd prefer to use an external decoder / amp). That doesn't mean that's the only use you can make of the digital out - you could simply connect it to a normal audio amp (that accepts the appropriate digital connection) simply for use of an external amp and speakers, when watching DVDs (assuming you have no digital decoders, but simply want perhaps better quality sound, than simply between your DVD player and your TVs speakers). Whether you'd realise any benefit, in this scenario, and just simply connecting the analogue audio outs to the analogue audio ins on an amp - is probably unlikely - unless there is considerable (likely) disparity between the DACs in the DVD player, and your amp. Most DVD players (all?) can be used as simple CD players, also, so you could use the optical out, with an appropriate cable, to connect to the optical in on your MD portie. Most (all?) of the porties I've come across have sample rate convertors, so it shouldn't be a problem if the DVD player outputs at a higher rate than the MD format uses. Depending on the DVD player you use, you may, or may not have issues with track marks being correctly recorded by your MD recorder when you use the optical connection for recording of CDs. You may also have to configure the type of signal emitted (PCM or bitstream) from your DVD players digital out. Personally, I've used the digital (and analogue) outs from my DVD player to record audio from DVDs. However my DVD player only has a coax digital out, so I have to either connect it to my bookshelf MD unit (for a digital connection), or use a convertor to connect it to one of my porties using an optical connection. Quite often I simply use the analogue outs connected to the analogue line in on my porties, when I want to record. HTH Neil ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Just got a MZ-R70; love it! Does RM-MZR55 remote work with it?
Hey, folks! I've just joined the Minidisc cult; got a Sony MZ-R70 last night, made a few recordings via the nifty optical cable from my mini stereo system, and I'm liking them quite a lot, except for just a few "sparkling" artifacts I get with smooth volume changes in techno songs. Not totally awful, but I'm surprised; the FAQ asserted vigorously that the "sparkles" were gone these days, which was what stopped me from going Minidisc years and years ago. The remote that came with the R70 is okay, feel-wise, but I really wish it was a backlit LCD remote instead. Looking on Ebay, I see a lot of RM-MZR55 remotes for sale at ~ $15, and they say they're backlit and compatible with the R70. But the manual for the R70 warns against using other models' remotes, saying the record capabilities may not work, and minidisc.org's page on the R55 says: "The MZ-R55's remote can be used with the MZ-R50, but in this case the backlight is inoperative (only the MZ-R55 emits the command codes needed to control the backlight). The MZ-R55 remote is completely interchangeable with the MZ-R37 remote." The remote that came with the R70 is model RM-MZ3R. If I order a RM-MZR55 remote, will it work with my R70? Thanks a lot! Ben -- Brought to you by the letters H and D and the number 1. "Moshimoshi. Kikoemasu ka?" "Kakenaoshimasu kara ne! 1-do kitte kudasai." Debian GNU/Linux maintainer of Gimp and GTK+ -- http://www.debian.org/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MDS-W1 during an SCMS-forced analogue copy
Simon Mackay asked, | I read in the online manual for the Sony MDS-W1 that; if you do a | "one-push-start" copy of an MD; the unit will route the signal via the | analogue bus if the source disc is an SCMS-final recording. If you're talking about the MD SYNC function -- and I guess you must be if you bring up which bus the W1 will choose -- the choice of bus will be made anew with each track. If you have some final tracks and some penultimate tracks, MD SYNC will route the SCMS-penultimate data over the digital bus and the SCMS-final data over the analog bus. | In this mode; will the copy lose the track marks and titles present in the | SCMS-final recording during this mode? No. Track titles will be copied (but not the disc name) and, while I wouldn't say "it preserves the track marks" I would say that the W1 notes track transitions and does mark tracks on the copy. So you do get both track marks and track titles. There is one bug in MD SYNC: recopyable copied data (SCMS-unlimited mode E) will be transfered over the analog bus. (Recopyable original data [SCMS-un- limited mode C] will be copied via the digital bus; thanks to Jim Resinger for checking that out.) If you just set the target drive to record from the other drive over the digital bus and play the source on the source drive, SCMS-unlimited-E tracks are copied digitally and of course tracks are marked. Titles are not copied, but you can copy them one at a time with the Disc-to- Disc Name Copy function. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: should we wait for lp.
* las [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 30 Aug 2000 | But the format that I was describing would not be compressed. Doesn't MD2 | still use compression? MD2 doesn't need to use compression any more than MD does. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ unknown glowing substance which fell to PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ Earth, presumably from outer space. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD to MD
Thanks to anyone who replied, I decided to give it a good go today, and it worked brilliantly. I couldn't tell the difference between 1st and 2nd generation copies. I don't know if it would be this good over analog, but over digital cable it was great. So to anyone else who wants to know about MD to MD, 1st generation to 2nd generation copying is no problem. _ Protect your Computer from Viruses Sent via E-mail at http://www.mailcleaner.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Just got a MZ-R70; love it! Does RM-MZR55 remote work with it?
I have an MZ-EP11 (with LCD remote) and an MZ-R70 (remote with no LCD). The EP11's LCD remote plug fits the R70 and the controls work, but the LCD doesn't. On the 4-pin remote plug, 2 of the pins are for the controls and 2 for the LCD. My guess is that the LCD pins are not connected in the R70. I was somewhat disappointed to discover this, because I would have swapped remotes otherwise. I don't know for sure, but I believe the remote LCD pins *are* connected in the R90. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: should we wait for lp.
Sorry to bother you, but would you happen to be able to explain to me the difference(s) between copyrighting material and trademarking it, or can you point me to a resource on the Web that explains it? Thank you. /jcrd - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | The term and Logo DVD is something that is copyrighted. | Trademarked, actually. Copyright is a totally non-relevant area of law | (except in regards to copyright ownership of the specification documents). | | | From everything you have said, accepting for the moment that you are | | correct, the technology used to make DVDs could be used to produce MDs of | | extremely long length. It would seem to me that the quality of a "DVD" | | type MD would be superior to the present ATRAC MD. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: should we wait for lp.
As far as I know. One is for a product itself or the technology behind the product. The other is for a name or term. For example, you could not open a soft drink company named Pepsi. This is due to trademark protection. Note, I am not a lawyer and maybe very wrong. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. C. R. Davis Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: should we wait for lp. Sorry to bother you, but would you happen to be able to explain to me the difference(s) between copyrighting material and trademarking it, or can you point me to a resource on the Web that explains it? Thank you. /jcrd - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | The term and Logo DVD is something that is copyrighted. | Trademarked, actually. Copyright is a totally non-relevant area of law | (except in regards to copyright ownership of the specification documents). | | | From everything you have said, accepting for the moment that you are | | correct, the technology used to make DVDs could be used to produce MDs of | | extremely long length. It would seem to me that the quality of a "DVD" | | type MD would be superior to the present ATRAC MD. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Free: Beginners Minidisc Guide
"J. C. R. Davis" wrote: How accurate is this information? Some of what I saw made me raise an eyebrow. - Original Message - From: Art Munson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: Free: Beginners Minidisc Guide | We have a free, Beginners Guide To Minidisc, at our web site at: | http://www.tape.com/techinfo/minidisc.html. Written by Bruce Bartlett It is free advice and worth every pennyG What part did you have problems with? Maybe we need to let the guy know he made a mistake? -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Free: Beginners Minidisc Guide
Well, just little things that are different from what I've heard in the past. I thought MD was released in '92, for one. I guess I'm wrong though. /jcrd - Original Message - From: J. Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] | How accurate is this information? Some of what I saw made me raise an | eyebrow. | It is free advice and worth every pennyG | | What part did you have problems with? Maybe we need to let the guy know | he made a mistake? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Free: Beginners Minidisc Guide
MD was released in 1992 with the Sony MZ-1 and the MZ-2P the very first models. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Free: Beginners Minidisc Guide
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Here is the real low down, directly from the horses mouth. http://hive.me.gu.edu.au/~csand/md/mdpage/minidisc/ieee_paper.html "J. C. R. Davis" wrote: Well, just little things that are different from what I've heard in the past. I thought MD was released in '92, for one. I guess I'm wrong though. /jcrd - Original Message - From: J. Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] | How accurate is this information? Some of what I saw made me raise an | eyebrow. | It is free advice and worth every pennyG | | What part did you have problems with? Maybe we need to let the guy know | he made a mistake? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: headphones and airplanes
las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, someone suggested a site with instructions to make your own. At $125.00, unless you have money coming out of your butt (which the originator of this thread may have since he takes an MD and DVD player with him!!) don't you think that the price to value ratio is too high? Larry That depends, Larry g I have friends who claim that any CD player over $100 has a price/value ratio that is too high. I also have friends who would argue until they're blue in the face that their $5,000 transport has a great price/value ratio. It depends on what's important to you, I guess. The Headroom amps have both an amp and their proprietary soundfield processor which, IMHO, really does make good headphones sound more like speakers and less like headphones. Plus they are designed from the ground up to be great headphone amps. I've never made one of those "do-it-yourself" amps on Headwize. I don't know how good they are compared to Headroom's amps. However, keep in mind that you have to buy the parts, you have to have the right tools, and you have to have the time to build them. Depending on the tools and parts you have, and how much your time is worth, $125 might be a better deal even if the amps are comparable in quality... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MDS-W1 during an SCMS-forced analogue copy
=BEGIN QUOTE= There is one bug in MD SYNC: recopyable copied data (SCMS-unlimited mode E) will be transfered over the analog bus. (Recopyable original data [SCMS-un- limited mode C] will be copied via the digital bus; thanks to Jim Resinger for checking that out.) If you just set the target drive to record from the other drive over the digital bus and play the source on the source drive, SCMS-unlimited-E tracks are copied digitally and of course tracks are marked. Titles are not copied, but you can copy them one at a time with the Disc-to- Disc Name Copy function. END QUOTE== Does anyone know whether Sony has been made aware of this bug when it comes to handling SCMS-unlimited recordings during MD-SYNC copying and whether they will release new firmware to rectify this problem? The logic currently reads: On TRACK_CHANGE Select Case SCMS_STATUS Case ORIGINAL Route via digital Recording = COPY Case COPY Route via analog Recording = ORIGINAL End Select End TRACK_CHANGE It should read: On TRACK_CHANGE SCMS_STATUS = PROTECTION AND COPY_TYPE Select Case SCMS_STATUS Case UNLIMITED Route via digital Recording = UNLIMITED Case LIMITED AND ORIGINAL Route via digital Recording = LIMITED AND COPY Case LIMITED AND COPY Route via analog Recording = LIMITED AND ORIGINAL End Select End TRACK_CHANGE This is where I would advocate use of flash-memory for equipment firmware and, in the case of MD equipment, have it capable of accepting special MD-DATA (MD-ROM) firmware upgrade discs to rectify known bugs. CD players and associated equipment could read firmware updates off CD-ROMs and system-control buses can be used to transmit firmware updates to other equipment. With regards, Simon Mackay - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: TOS Link Stupid Question
Hi, Martin, I think you'll find that most equipment with the digital optical output has the standard TOSLink connector. I don't believe you'll have any problems getting the audio to record from your DVD player, so long as you have the TOSLink - Mini-optical cable (or some combo thereof). My PC's sound card has the standard TOSLink optical out, and I purchased a TOSLink cable and a mini-optical adapter to fit into my MD recorder, and it works flawlessly. On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Clinton, Martin wrote: Hi Everyone, This may sound a bit of a basic question, but my Toshiba DVD player has an optical output (Toslink I think it is). Anyway, is it possible to connect this to an MD portable recorder via a toslink/mini jack-style optical cable? If so, are there concerns about sample rate conversion etc..? Or is it impossible? If so, what do you use the optical output for? I hope I've explained myself well enough, any help gratefully received. Martin - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
