MD: Tr: question to tbrown@tbrown.demon.co.uk
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === - Original Message -=20 From: Antoine Despujols=20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 1:49 AM Subject: question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I put a message in the minidisc forum untitled like that : How do I know = if my CDROM drive has a digital output? If it doesn't, do I need the = Xitel Storm Platinum? Thanks a lot for your answer ! I'd like to ask you a few more questions. This was my question last time : I'm very interested in buying the Xitel Storm Platinum sound card that = has got a digital output. Although I have a few MP3's on my computer, it = is more to record from CD to minidisc than from MP3 to minidisc. So I if my = CDROM drive doesn't have any digital output, there is no point buying a = digital out soundcard because it would be analogue recording. Am I right ? If = so, I asked this question in another forum and I got 2 different answers : Sort of. The most direct way is as you describe -- connect the digital output of the CDROM drive to the input of the sound card, and record = from there. However, Winamp has a plug-in that does on-the-fly digital = audio extraction -- it plays the CD by reading the digital data directly and outputting that to the sound card. So you can use that if your CDROM = has no digital output. What do you think about on-the-fly digital audio extraction ? Is it the = same sound quality with this software than with a completely digital = computer ? Every CD-ROM drive has a digital output, the SCSI, IDE or whatever connection will do the digital transfer into your computer. You just have to have software to handle it. And a digital out soundcard to = handle the output. What do you think about that ? Thanks Cedric === MIME part removed : text/html; === _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD for recording sound for film?
When synch'ing sound and picture, there are two things that must be considered: 1) The sound recorder and the picture must run "at the same speed" to maintain synch. This, the most basic requirement, was often handled in movies by recording sound on sprocketted magnetic film using a synchronous AC motor in the drive system that was excited from the same source as the camera's drive motor. Now servo controlled drive systems are used in the recorders, and they are syncronized to a master timing source. 2) The sound and picture must not be "offset" from each other. This was originally accomplised by the clapboard, which placed a precise marker on both the picture (when the two parts made contact) and the sound (when the "clap" was heard) allowing the sound and picture to be started simultaneously at a common event on the separate mediums. Now timecode is used, and the "slave" machines chase the master to acquire lock. Consumer MD recorders have no provision for locking the record or play sample rate to an external source (video or film). So they only way things can work is to record timecode on one track of the MD from a timing source to which the camera is locked. The on playback, the MD would have to be the timing master, with the picture playback locked to the time code recovered from the MD. This is not really a good solution, that is, having the MD be the timecode master during playback. It would work in a pinch, but it would be much better if the video frame rate of the camera and the sample rate of the sound recorder had been locked in the first place. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Palm
is there an titler program for the palmOS...so i could title my minidisc using it to beam to my deck unit infared port? jason - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MP3 to CDR
Is there a CD burner that will burn MP3 files and make an audio CD without having to save the MP3 file as a WAV file first? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
On 10 Nov 2000, at 21:22, J. Coon wrote: I see there are some car CD players that will play an MP3 data file and not have to hae it as a CDA file. Which are probably just as crappy as the portables, i.e. just a bunch of track numbers instead of ID3 tags or filenames (now are you really going to remember what song track 135 is?), and can't read all of the MP3s on a CDR. -- JT - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
Free music. I've gotten so many mp3s of entire albums months before they came out. joe. JT wrote: (although I've never figured out why someone would want to burn an Audio CD from MP3s) -- aim - emoposer "you know why you ridin a skateboard? Cause you balla blockin." -Anasarca - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
That wouldn't be a function of the CD Burner...it would be a function of the software that's running the drive. On that note, I believe the latest Real Jukebox can do it. On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:48:39 -0500, J. Coon wrote: Is there a CD burner that will burn MP3 files and make an audio CD without having to save the MP3 file as a WAV file first? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
* "J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 10 Nov 2000 | Is there a CD burner that will burn MP3 files and make an audio CD | without having to save the MP3 file as a WAV file first? No. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
"J. Coon" wrote: Is there a CD burner that will burn MP3 files and make an audio CD without having to save the MP3 file as a WAV file first? I'm not sure what you are asking. If you mean on a computer, this is a software problem. I think that there are programs that will convert MP3s on the fly to WAV files, but it is not the burner. I don't think that any of the music burners (like the Phillips) can read MP3s the way an Apex DVD player can. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
On 10 Nov 2000, at 18:40, Michael Burger wrote: That wouldn't be a function of the CD Burner...it would be a function of the software that's running the drive. On that note, I believe the latest Real Jukebox can do it. Don't use this, its decoder sucks. Use CoolPlayer, or Winamp 2.22, or Winamp 2.666+, or Ultraplayer, or LAME to decode your MP3s, if you want the best quality (although I've never figured out why someone would want to burn an Audio CD from MP3s) -- JT - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No Subject
I just got a Harmon-Kardon CD burner which connects to my stereo. Last week I did a live recording of our church choir concert, I was ready to record it onto a CD, when I realized that there is no digital output from the MD. I notice in the specs of all the MD that none (that I saw) of the MD players have a digital output. That seems unusual. I don't know how the analog recording will fare, but I'll try tomorrow. Sure wish my Sony MZ-R50 MD had better auto sensitivity--there's quite a bit of distortion, for many concerts, the 'low' setting is too low. More distortion than I would like (as a musician). Bob - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
* "J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 10 Nov 2000 | I just found one at http://www.Tucows.com called Earjam IMP. Seems to | work. I dropped a bunch of MP3 files on it and told it to burn an audio | CDR. Guess what? The CD-R burner didn't do it. | Now I have a CDR with CDA files made from crumby MP3 files on it, but I | guess it will be ok to listen to in my car. Howeve, CDR doesn't let you | title things like a MD does. Really? I've had no problems making CD-TEXT discs on CD-R blanks. Maybe you're not doing it right? :) -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid core, Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ which, if exposed due to rupture, should PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD for recording sound for film?
* "Dave Hooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 10 Nov 2000 | I am not! This is the only piece of Sony equipment which I own ... which I | have EVER owned! Huh? Are you saying that the Sharp recorder was the very first MD recorder you ever listened to? If so, then what were you comparing it against to say that it "sounds like shit"? -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
I just found one at http://www.Tucows.com called Earjam IMP. Seems to work. I dropped a bunch of MP3 files on it and told it to burn an audio CDR. Now I have a CDR with CDA files made from crumby MP3 files on it, but I guess it will be ok to listen to in my car. Howeve, CDR doesn't let you title things like a MD does. I am sure glad my new Aiwa CDC-x207 car cd player has a jack on the front to plug in my MD recorder, or even a tape player if I want to. Michael Burger wrote: That wouldn't be a function of the CD Burner...it would be a function of the software that's running the drive. On that note, I believe the latest Real Jukebox can do it. On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:48:39 -0500, J. Coon wrote: -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Re[2]: MP3 to CDR
Hello Stainless, On Saturday, November 11, 2000, 03:23:47, you wrote: SSR | Is there a CD burner that will burn MP3 files and make an audio CD SSR | without having to save the MP3 file as a WAV file first? SSR No. Yes, there is. Nero (www.ahead.de) for example supports this since version 5 (or was it 4 dot something?). I think Feurio! can do this too, and other tools already implement this option, or will do so in the near future. In Nero is called on-the-fly audio decoding, and it works with both MP3 and VQF sound formats. -- Best regards, Javier Marcet mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key-ID: 0x53B1551D PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendPGPKey Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 03:55:37 +1100
Portables don't have a digital output, only digital in, with the exception of a few recent model Sharp units. As for the sensitivity, I suggest you manually set the level to something that suits your tastes - far better than the automatic gain control. Of course, if you were using a PC to do your burning, you could always do some post-edit work using Soundforge or Cooledit Pro to bring the levels up from the conservative levels you've been recording at. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Ellis Sent: Saturday, 11 November 2000 3:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I just got a Harmon-Kardon CD burner which connects to my stereo. Last week I did a live recording of our church choir concert, I was ready to record it onto a CD, when I realized that there is no digital output from the MD. I notice in the specs of all the MD that none (that I saw) of the MD players have a digital output. That seems unusual. I don't know how the analog recording will fare, but I'll try tomorrow. Sure wish my Sony MZ-R50 MD had better auto sensitivity--there's quite a bit of distortion, for many concerts, the 'low' setting is too low. More distortion than I would like (as a musician). Bob - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to CDR
las wrote: "J. Coon" wrote: Is there a CD burner that will burn MP3 files and make an audio CD without having to save the MP3 file as a WAV file first? I'm not sure what you are asking. If you mean on a computer, this is a software problem. I think that there are programs that will convert MP3s on the fly to WAV files, but it is not the burner. I was refering to the software. I have a ZIPCD burner but when I try to make and audio CD, the EZ CD Creator program looks for WAV files and doesn't accept MP3 files. I found a neat one that does, and it is Freeware. It is called Earjam IMP. A description of it is below. I can drag and drop MP3 files into it and it will play them. I can make up play lists. I can take a playlist and have it copy the MP3 files in that order to a CD as an audio CD. Check out Tucows, THey give it a 5 cow rating. If I just wanted it as a data CD instead of an audio CD, EX CD creator would have worked. I see there are some car CD players that will play an MP3 data file and not have to hae it as a CDA file. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways 1 Earjam Internet Music Player Version Number: 2.0 Beta 912 Revision Date: September 19th, 2000 License: Freeware Byte Size: 209695 Home Page: http://www.earjam.com Description: The Earjam IMP is the world's first universal player/universal burner that plays all popular music formats and burns to all popular hardware devices, including CD-RW and Diamond RIOs. It contains: A skinnable feature Listening preferences for several users Hard disk burn option Excellent tutorials on startup through a spoken format A drag and drop feature - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Storing Data on MiniDisk
Hello, Does any of you know a software (and / or hardware) tool for storing digital data (e.g. computer file) on a audio MiniDisk? I searched the minidisc.org site, but didn't find anything. Thank you. Jeff - This is not a signature. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Track labelling
I've got a Sony MZ-R55 portable recordable MiniDisc system, I've also = got a digital soundcard on my PC. What I want to know is if there are = any programmes out there (preferably free- or shareware) that will allow = me to label tracks on recorded MiniDiscs using the computer keyboard. = Any information would be very welcome as I'm getting a bit sick of = spending good time having to label by scrolling through the characters = on the lcd screen. Thanks, Nat The only option I know of is to buy or make the parallel port - MD interface that is here : http://www.bazginge.demon.co.uk/minidisc.html . Free plans and software are available if you're competent with a soldering iron, or they're offered pre-made (and a lot neater) for about $60. It allows control of the unit from your PC as well as decent titling support, and I believe allows you to record with trackmarks in place and no gaps (as the normal remote has a trackmark button that the software can "press" as you change tracks). hth, -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD for recording sound for film?
* "Dave Hooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 10 Nov 2000 | It's impossible to OBJECTIVELY say what 'sounds better' by definition. Not true. The subject of a truely blind A/B test can be objective. You are used to Sony equipment, which has weak amplifiers and crappy headphones and all kinds of Weird Digital Processing Shit(tm) supposedly to compensate. That is your baseline from which you make comparisons. Sharp headphone amps are more powerful and they don't have all the stupid cruft tacked on, so they sound different. I think that you have made the connection that "different" equals "bad". You have convinced yourself of this -- as have many listeners -- so that is what you hear. Sharp players with a good set of not Sony headphones, and especially with an AirHead amp, do not sound like shit, no matter what you or anyone else has read. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid core, Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ which, if exposed due to rupture, should PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Audio For Film
What you are talking about is the placement of the mikes and the processing of the sound, not the the inherent sound quality of the minidisc recorder. There are even multitrack recorders that use MD as a recording medium. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to MD but have been mixing and recording live audio for years. It is one thing to capture/record and expect quality binaural playback through a set of headphones. It is quite a different story to produce quality playback through a point-source stereo speaker system. Simply put, a quality digital audio source must be processed for speaker playback.I don't care how good the original capture recording is. Chances are most MD playback of recordings will pale through a home stereo system ( I'm refering to live audio recordings, not CD dubs etc). It takes proper outboard studio equipment, knowledge, a good ear, and alittle " black magic" to mix the MD audio for room speaker playback. I can understand why a filmmaker without extensive audio experience, would dismiss the MD format. Mark Dottle - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD for recording sound for film?
Hahaha. That's a joke, right? It's impossible to OBJECTIVELY say what 'sounds better' by definition. Anyway, semantics aside, that wasn't my point, which was that the person who said in conversation that MiniDisc is just lo-fi trash could simply have stumbled across the same reports that I have read on the Internet saying Sharp ATRAC **sounds** bad compared to the original CD (which I just happen to agree with, and which I read after I had happened to form exactly the same opinion on my own) - Original Message - From: "Stainless Steel Rat" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MD-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 3:01 AM Subject: Re: MD: MD for recording sound for film? There are detectable differences between the two encoders. You know what those differences are, you know how to pick them out. Therefore, I think it is impossible for you to be objective no matter what you do, because you will subconsciously or consciously invalidate any tests you might try. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
