RE: MD: Cyndi Lauper MD Recording-Multiple Sources, Multiple Questions
Please contact me personally about this, I have some questions and information for you... Regards, Peter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ***Peter Forest*** www.kheopsminidisc.com www.kheopsinternational.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rodney Peterson Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 8:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: Cyndi Lauper MD Recording-Multiple Sources, Multiple Questions I just made a Cyndi Lauper compilation MD using various digital and analog sources mixed on the MD. The material I copied from is as follows: Compact Discs Cyndi Lauper-She's So Unusual Cyndi Lauper-True Colors Cyndi Lauper-The Best Remixes (Import) DVD's Cyndi Lauper-Twelve Deadly Cyns..And Then Some (copy protected) (5.1 Dolby Digital and PCM Stereo) (selectable) All Time Party Classics Volume One (Promotional DVD Music Videos For DJ's) (not copy protected-contains Girls Just Want To Have Fun and about 50 other popular music videos of the 80's and 90's-PCM Stereo Only) Commercial MiniDisc Cyndi Lauper-Twelve Deadly Cyns..And Then Some I made a two MD compilation of The Eagles a few days ago. I used the new box set Selected Works 1972-1999 and TM Century HitDiscs for a few songs not in the collection. I also wanted to use the Hotel Calfornia version of Victim Of Love, but the levels on the previously released Eagles CD's were much lower than on the box set, so I used the live version of Victim Of Love from the fourth disc in the set, The Millenium Concert instead. For this reason, I'm wondering if I should purchase the CD version of Twelve Deadly Cyns...And Then Some. More on that to follow. As far as Cyndi Lauper, here's the track listing as it stands now before moving or deleting an tracks-the only two on the possible delete list are one of the Girls Just Want To Have Fun short versions and Iko Iko, mainly to make room for the LP version of What's Going On. I did not include the 1995 version of Girls Just Want To Have Fun (Hey Now) which is closer to Redbone's Come And Get Your Love than the 1983 original Girls Just Want To Have Fun. Track Listing: 1. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-Extended Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 2. Change Of Heart-Extended Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 3. She Bop-Special Dance Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 4. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-LP Version (Digital from She's So Unusual) 5. Time After Time (Digital from She's So Unusual) 6. She Bop-LP Version (Digital from She's So Unusual) 7. True Colors (Digital from True Colors) 8. Change Of Heart-LP Version (Digital from True Colors) 9. I Drove All Night (Analog PCM Stereo from Twelve Deadly Cyns DVD) 10. The Goonies 'R' Good Enough-Dance Remix (Digital from The Best Remixes) 11. All Through The Night (Digital from She's So Unusual) 12. Money Changes Everything-Extended Live Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 13. What's Going On-Club Version (Digital from The Best Remixes) 14. Girls Just Want To Have Fun-LP Version (Digital PCM Stereo from All Time Party Classics Volume One DVD) 15. Iko Iko (Digital from True Colors) The levels and the sound on The Best Remixes are excellent and those recordings sound the best. She's So Unusual and True Colors have much higher overall levels than the anemic previously released Eagles CD's, but the recording sounds a bit harsh/muddy? But it also sounds as if it were deliberately recorded that way. I know I can't record the commercial DVD digitally, but is it best to use the 5.1 track or the PCM track to record the audio from-if you choose the 5.1 track, will the MD recorder miss the information in the rear channels entirely. I doubt if recording from The Twelve Deadly Cyns MD to blank MD would yield as good a result as CD or DVD to MD, especially considering the no doubt earlier ATRAC version used in the now several years old prerecorded MD. For this reason, I'm thinking maybe the CD of Twelve Deadly Cyns would be better to buy and use for the album tracks-if they were remastered in any way over the original store CD's of She's So Unusual and True Colors. Some Cyndi Lauper stuff is also on SACD, but I don't have a SACD/DVD player-yet. I also put together similar compilations of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera Dance Remix MD's over the past several days, but with the exception of one Christina Aguilera track from DVD, those were all digital. And they're also newer recordings so they use state of the art mastering to begin with, unlike the older Cyndi Lauper commercial MD's-except for the Dance Remixes import. Thoughts on how to get the best sound out of the existing Cyndi Lauper material I have, or if I should purchase a CD copy of Twelve Deadly Cyns to get the very best CD sound available on a non SACD Sony CD release? Does anyone have the CD's of Twelve Deadly Cyns, She's So Unusual and True Colors and detected a difference in remastering?
MD: Cyndi Lauper MD
The point of the lengthy post is that often there is a discrepancy in the quality of older material not intitally released as CD's using Cyndi Lauper and The Eagles for example-especially The Eagles, whose new box set is a vast improvement over their initial CD reissues. For newer material like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, which were also cited as examples, this isn't an issue because everything was digital each step of the way to begin with (DDD as opposed to AAD or AAD). - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: PS/2 compatible keyboard?
My home MD deck allows for titling via a PS/2 compatible keyboard. Since I have a Mac, I'm not sure what this actually means. Will any keyboard that works with a Windows computer work with my MD deck? Thanks! -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- You have just read e-mail by Ken Clinger. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may now resume your previously scheduled life. -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Cyndi Lauper MD
Last line in previous post should have read: DDD or AAD or ADD NOT DDD or AAD or AAD - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: clicks in recorded MP3s
Hopefully someone has some experience and can help me. I looked around, and it appears the Sharp MD-X5 has the same ATRAC version as the portable Sharp MD-MS722. I decided that it was probably ok to use the mini system to record MP3's with, and hooked it to the SPDIF output of my SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer. At any rate, mostly, things sound fine. However, every once in a while, I'll get a click in the recording. Re-recording the song can end up removing it in most cases, assuming a click doesn't show up elsewhere. I used to record with an analog connection to my MD-MS722, and mostly the digital recordings I'm now making sound better than the analog ones I used to, except for these clicks. The clicks are obviously not in the original MP3s, as they aren't output every time the MP3s are played. My guess is that the process of the soundcard sampling up the 44.1Khz source to 48Khz, and the MD-X5 downsampling the 48Khz to 44.1Khz for recording is from time to time introducing some little glitches/pops/clicks. Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon? If so, were you able to cure it in any way? Thanks! -matt -- matthew c. mead [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goof.com/~mmead/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: PS/2 compatible keyboard?
on 1/3/01 10:09 AM, Ken Clinger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My home MD deck allows for titling via a PS/2 compatible keyboard. Since I have a Mac, I'm not sure what this actually means. Will any keyboard that works with a Windows computer work with my MD deck? Thanks! I would think that any keyboard who's plug fits the slot would work. Then again, I'm using a Mac now so I could be wrong. :) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: PS/2 compatible keyboard?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Most PC keyboards now are PS/2 compatible. All that's referring to is the connector on the end. It's a PS/2 connector, the same as on a PC mouse (or older Mac mice I think). It's *not* the "fat" connector, which is AT. But, yeah, basically it's whatever fits :-) Josh on 1/3/01 10:09 AM, Ken Clinger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My home MD deck allows for titling via a PS/2 compatible keyboard. Since I have a Mac, I'm not sure what this actually means. Will any keyboard that works with a Windows computer work with my MD deck? Thanks! I would think that any keyboard who's plug fits the slot would work. Then again, I'm using a Mac now so I could be wrong. :) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: PS/2 compatible keyboard?
ok, heres a little info that I pulled off the net (I figured my 'big bad, small good' explanation needed a little help^^): "Keyboard connectors come in two different styles. The older one is the large 5-pin DIN connector, and the newer one is the smaller 6-pin mini-DIN connector (also called "PS/2-style" for the IBM system that introduced it). The two types are electrically compatible and you can attach an adapter to allow the use of one style on a PC that requires the other. (Note that this is not always true for PS/2 style mice that use an identical 6-pin connector)." Any pc keyboard that is fairly recent should be fine. If on the off chance you do have one of the old ones kicking around the adaptors are pretty cheap and I think easy to come by. (sorry, I dont really know exact years) -Jen My home MD deck allows for titling via a PS/2 compatible keyboard. Since I have a Mac, I'm not sure what this actually means. Will any keyboard that works with a Windows computer work with my MD deck? Thanks! I would think that any keyboard who's plug fits the slot would work. Then again, I'm using a Mac now so I could be wrong. :) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: PS/2 compatible keyboard?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Not to nitpick but the older mac mice I think you are referring to were ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) as was the keyboard. Apple is currently on the USB bandwagon but any any local computer shop or even probably walmart or the like should have a cheap keyboard with a ps/2 connector. Jeffrey used to be on a mac writing this on a windows laptop waiting to go home to use the Sun type 5 keyboard on the good machine :-) At 09:18 PM 1/3/01 +, you wrote: === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Most PC keyboards now are PS/2 compatible. All that's referring to is the connector on the end. It's a PS/2 connector, the same as on a PC mouse (or older Mac mice I think). It's *not* the "fat" connector, which is AT. But, yeah, basically it's whatever fits :-) Josh on 1/3/01 10:09 AM, Ken Clinger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My home MD deck allows for titling via a PS/2 compatible keyboard. Since I have a Mac, I'm not sure what this actually means. Will any keyboard that works with a Windows computer work with my MD deck? Thanks! I would think that any keyboard who's plug fits the slot would work. Then again, I'm using a Mac now so I could be wrong. :) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: clicks in recorded MP3s
I had a nasty problems with clicks. I was digitally recording from my MD deck unit to my Digital Audio Labs sound card and I would random clicks. After playing around for awhile, I figured out that my video card acceraltion was set to high. My video card was gradding to much of the CPU's time and it caused clicks. I set my video card to a slower rate and now my recordings are fine. I hope this helps. Ken -Original Message- From: matthew c. mead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:27 PM To: md-l mailing list Subject: MD: clicks in recorded MP3s Hopefully someone has some experience and can help me. I looked around, and it appears the Sharp MD-X5 has the same ATRAC version as the portable Sharp MD-MS722. I decided that it was probably ok to use the mini system to record MP3's with, and hooked it to the SPDIF output of my SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer. At any rate, mostly, things sound fine. However, every once in a while, I'll get a click in the recording. Re-recording the song can end up removing it in most cases, assuming a click doesn't show up elsewhere. I used to record with an analog connection to my MD-MS722, and mostly the digital recordings I'm now making sound better than the analog ones I used to, except for these clicks. The clicks are obviously not in the original MP3s, as they aren't output every time the MP3s are played. My guess is that the process of the soundcard sampling up the 44.1Khz source to 48Khz, and the MD-X5 downsampling the 48Khz to 44.1Khz for recording is from time to time introducing some little glitches/pops/clicks. Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon? If so, were you able to cure it in any way? Thanks! -matt -- matthew c. mead [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goof.com/~mmead/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Headphones Question
Hello all and happy new year... I was wandering around the net looking to buy online the Sony MDR-V900 headphones but couldn't find a site that would ship internationally (I live in Greece). I would be grateful if any of you could recommend a good online store for me to purchase the above headphones and that it could ship them here :) Harry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: PS/2 compatible keyboard?
You should be able to get a ps/2 style keyboard pretty cheap. They are the ones with a round connector instead of a rectangular one. It should say ps/2 compatible on the box. I paid an exorbitant $29 for one of those contoured ones, but I think I got a $20 rebate from the manufacturer. Ken Clinger wrote: My home MD deck allows for titling via a PS/2 compatible keyboard. Since I have a Mac, I'm not sure what this actually means. Will any keyboard that works with a Windows computer work with my MD deck? Thanks! -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- You have just read e-mail by Ken Clinger. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may now resume your previously scheduled life. -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones Question
hey man, try www.minidisco.com they may have them and i think they ship internationaly good luck -WiLL - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Playstation 2?
hey from what i have read... why would you need one a keey board for a PSII can u access the internet? what can u do besides play DVDs and games, and cds? -WiLL - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: clicks in recorded MP3s
i hear clicks when recording MP3s also, but i learned that when recording you can't touch the computer, you can't open/close games or windows, and it sucks when AOLIM is open and u hear the IM sound... jezzz that sucks -WiLL - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Cyndi Lauper MD
Just to make sure I own the best possible source of this material to transfer to MD, I bought three more Cyndi Lauper CD's today. From Tower for $9.99 I picked up the 2000 remastered rerelease of the 1983 album She's So Unusual with three extra bonus tracks. I think this release is significant because it is the only Lauper CD available currently in the SACD format. I think what Sony is doing is reissuing their remastered catalog SACD's as CD Reissues as well. This will probably mean a lot of Sony CD's will be remastered as SACD and better CD's as Sony tests the SACD marketplace. Since they're going to go to all that expense to try to make SACD a success, they may as well make CD releases of those SACD's, right? From Amazon.com I bought the CD of Twelve Deadly Cyns...And Then Some because I can't digitally record the DVD to MD since it is copy protected. And I also ordered a Best Of Import on a gold disc with a black cover. There was absolutely no information on it, so it could be really great or really awful when it arrives-so I took a chance on it. A two disc Bangles import CD I recently ordered which was the only way to get the long dance mixes of Walk Like An Egyptian, Manic Monday, etc. on CD was excellent. The Eagles Selected Works 1972-1999 is tremendously better production and sound wise than the original CD reissues of the originally recorded Eagles CD's. The packaging is cheap, the booklet with it nothing special, but it shines where it really counts in the musical remastering. Just one more example of wanting the best possible copy of something-for the movie Titanic I initally had the three VCD set, not good. Then I upgraded to Laser Disc. Then the non anamorphic DVD-good, but not great. Now I have a High Definition copy on D-VHS tape from HBO HDTV. By far the best, really better than in most all theaters. I'll listen to the She's So Unusual remaster and let you know how much of an improvement it is. If it's anything like The Eagles box set, it should be way better than the muddy/harsh original recording. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Playstation 2?
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 03 Jan 2001 | hey | from what i have read... why would you need one a keey board for a PSII | can u access the internet? what can u do besides play DVDs and games, and | cds? Umm... you can't play MiniDiscs on it, so I guess it really isn't an issue here. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ of skin. PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones Question
* "Magic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 03 Jan 2001 | I was wandering around the net looking to buy online the Sony MDR-V900 For that kind of money (~$250US) you will do much better with Sennheiser HD250-II or HD580 headphones. http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/SennheiserHD250.asp http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/SennheiserHD580.asp I don't know if HeadRoom ships international, but you can always ask Todd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Warning: pregnant women, the elderly, and Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ children under 10 should avoid prolonged PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ exposure to Happy Fun Ball. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Playstation 2?
You do realize, don't you, that before there was the PS2 (PlayStation 2) there was the PS/2 (Personal System/2)...a personal computer built by IBM? You also realize, don't you, that before those computers, keyboards used a large 5-pin DIN connector, and that since, computers now use a 6-pin mini DIN connector? Well, those 6-pin Mini DIN connectors are, by and large in the computer industry, called PS/2 connectors, because the first computers to use those connectors were PS/2 computers. On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:27:43 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey from what i have read... why would you need one a keey board for a PSII can u access the internet? what can u do besides play DVDs and games, and cds? -WiLL - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Playstation 2?
No i did not relize that, but i get it now.. thanks... i guess i had it wrong... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Playstation 2?
| hey | from what i have read... why would you need one a keey board for a PSII | can u access the internet? what can u do besides play DVDs and games, and | cds? Umm... you can't play MiniDiscs on it, so I guess it really isn't an issue here. I think I understand the confusion (because I really don't understand that first message). A PS/2 keyboard is not the same as a keyboard for a Playstation 2. PS/2 is a type of connector that attaches a normal computer keyboard to a computer. PS/2 keyboards can also be used for titling. Can USB keyboards? Certain systems boast the ability to connect to a computer via USB. Does the system allow titling via USB keyboards as well? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: clicks in recorded MP3s
the clicks might come from internet explorer...when you click on a link you'll hear a click...there is a way to turn it off but best way to record is not to touch the pc...and no other apps that make sound are closed unless you got two video cards or something like AN1 welphope that helped... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: MD: clicks in recorded MP3s i hear clicks when recording MP3s also, but i learned that when recording you can't touch the computer, you can't open/close games or windows, and it sucks when AOLIM is open and u hear the IM sound... jezzz that sucks -WiLL - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: SACD/Remastered CD Sound Stage Improvement
I just listened to the Cyndi Lauper She's So Unsual newly remasterd CD. The sound stage is vastly better than the original CD. It's like listening to a different record altogether. Stereo spacing is excellent and the only muddiness and the harshness that remains was intentional by the engineer. It's so much better it's hard to put into words since sound is very difficult to describe with paper and ink. This is really good news for anybody who owns any of the prime Sony catalog, because that is what they will reissue first on SACD and their improved CD counterparts. Honestly, if the CD versions are this good I'm very anxious to hear the SACD versions. This is really cool because you don't have to own an SACD player to get the huge benefits of the remasters, just a normal CD player. Titles already released or likely to be released in this format are almost definitely going to be the same prime Sony catalog material issued on prerecorded minidiscs several years ago-titles like Chicago's Greatest Hits, Michael Jackson's Thriller, Bruce Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A., George Michael's Faith and many, many more. The Lauper CD also includes three bonus tracks (in this case, they are live) not on the original album, so I would think they will do this on remasters wherever space allows. Stuff like Barbra Streisand, which is generally low level, will greatly benefit from remasters of this quality. By reading the labeling and packaging carefully, you should be able to tell if you are buying one of these CD remasters. The order number on the spine is also different from the initial release. I highly recommend these remastered CD's to anyone who has a library of prime Sony catalog titles they really love. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: clicks in recorded MP3s
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I use netscape. my MSIE doesn't click either. You should be able to turn it off by going to the control panel and clicking on sounds. look through there and see if you can find MSIE. I Can Not Tell You wrote: the clicks might come from internet explorer...when you click on a link you'll hear a click...there is a way to turn it off but best way to record is not to touch the pc...and no other apps that make sound are closed unless you got two video cards or something like AN1 welphope that helped... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: MD: clicks in recorded MP3s i hear clicks when recording MP3s also, but i learned that when recording you can't touch the computer, you can't open/close games or windows, and it sucks when AOLIM is open and u hear the IM sound... jezzz that sucks -WiLL - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
