MD: Future of MD
Hi everybody, I've seen a lot of postings here about MP3, ATRAC and MD as technology. Also I've seen many speculations about why MD hasn't become popular enough (except probably Japan) despite of its superiority over CD. As far as I remember SONY tried to make MD a de-facto standard for digital media, focusing primarily at computers. It was a nice attempt to replace 1.44 floppy... But (AFAIK) new standard failed to gain enough support and approval from major manufacturers, so MD-drive has never hit the market. Then SONY has changed the focus now aiming at audio-video appliances. MD is not suitable to store raw data anymore (not really). The question is does it have a future? Does anyone know about DataPlay media? (http://www.dataplay.com/) Do you think that 32mm-disk (about size of a quarter) of 500Mb is going to replace MD in near future? -- Best regards, /D-Off - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Future of MD
The media wars have always interested me... Let me start of by saying MD is my favorite media but. Dataplay is yet another nail in the coffin for MD. Although the atrac compression has a foreseeable future, the actual media, MD, is dying. For audio, 74 mins on a MD sized disc is ok, when compared to Cd. Keep in mind then that it is compressed. Now, imagine atrac 3 compression on a 500 MB disc. That is going to give you lots of music for a small dataplay type disc. Even further, imagine LP2 mode on a 500 MB disc. What really makes dataplay stupid of course, is the fact that it is a write once type media. But, if they can make write once media that size, then re-writeable discs are just around the corner. Heck, personally I like the idea of being able to put a lot of data onto a tiny disc. Remember it does anything digital, not just music. You will be able to fit a lot of modern games onto ONE of these discs. I dunno what the bitrate of md is but, if 160 MB = 80 mins of music, then (very roughly): 500/160 = 3.125 (3.125 MD discs, per dataplay disc) 3.125 * 80 = 250 mins (500 mins in lp2 mode, i think?) Just my 2c worth. Gerard Naude E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Archive: Cd-rw faq?
Quite a while ago someone published a link for a faq on cd-rw, and the technology behing it. Can someone please repost it? Obviously i'm not searching google correctly Thanks. Gerard Naude E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Earphones
I just got a set of Etymotic ER-4S earphones, and I am astounded at the sound. They are incredible. Some people have said that the 4S's lack bass and require a headphone amp, but I'm using them with my Sony MZR-90 and they are loud enough for me with excellent bass, and that's not even with the bass boost turned on. They come with either flanged or foam tips, and you need to get a tight seal in your ear canal to get decent sound. I could only get that seal with the foam tips, which also are much more comfortable in my ears; the flanged tips kinda hurt, but I hardly notice the foam tips. The other great effect of the seal is that it blocks out a lot of exterior noise, so high volume is not required. I love them for my train ride to work, I can just loose myself in the music. They aren't cheap, they'll set you back about $300.00 (USD) but I think they're well worth it. They also come in a nice case with various accessories. Here's a link for info: http://www.etymotic.com/hifi/index.asp -steve Tim Pitman wrote: I've just purchased a Sony MZR-900 and would like to buy some better earphones for it. I'd really like some that are comfortable, and with good sound. I currently have some old Sony ones that are really comfortable, but don't sound too good, some groove ones that came with a discman 3 years ago that sound good, but aren't very comfortable, and the ones that came with the 900 which are somewhere inbetween. Any sudgestions? Tim - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Earphones
great effect of the seal is that it blocks out a lot of exterior noise, so high volume is not required. I love them for my train ride to work, I can just loose myself in the music. I found the same thing with Sony's nude ex buds. When songs are quiet, they're QUIET, no matter what's going on in the outside world. :) Obviously you wouldn't drive a car while wearing these things, but it goes a long way towards cutting the wind noise out when rollerblading and such. --- Mike Lastucka, B. Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sites.netscape.net/element5/ 2048 bit DH 0x16DC15CD _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: md-l-digest V3 #40
Well. All this because a new guy to the list dared to post a message from Hotmail. :) That and these damn lobster-backs trying to encroach on my sovereign territory! :-) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: md-l-digest V3 #40
That and these damn lobster-backs trying to encroach on my sovereign territory! lobster-backs? Please explain. :) ml --- Mike Lastucka, B. Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sites.netscape.net/element5/ 2048 bit DH 0x16DC15CD _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD Players on Aeroplanes
I remember way back when there was a discussion on here about whether or not it was safe/allowed to use Minidisc players in aeroplanes. What's the current state of play with this? Cheers Andy See Accurate's latest reconciliation and exception management solutions at Sibos in Singapore, October 15-19. http://www.swift.com/ for more details. Accurate Software Ltd The Courtyard, Denmark Street, Wokingham, RG40 2AZ, UK. Tel: +44 (0)118 977 3889 Fax +44 (0)118 977 1260 Web: http://www.accurate.co.uk/ The information in this email is confidential and privileged and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity listed above. If you are neither the intended individual, or entity listed above, nor the person responsible for the delivery of this email to the intended recipients, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised distribution, copying or use of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the Accurate system manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on +44 (0)118 977 3889. The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by the Accurate Group. This E-mail has been virus checked by 'Knowledge Checker' http://www.imhotek.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
With all the talk on the future of MD, the bigger question is why are companies still making cassette tape? Americans hate any kind of change, and gonna stick with crap like cassette until it's not around any more. Lots of people gave up LPs not because CD was better, but because the record companies finally stopped making them... sigh :-) -- -- John McLachlan South End Boston, MA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/johnmc --- Imagine a whole pack of penguins; ready to explore your brain - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Players on Aeroplanes
why wouldn't it be? MD players have to have the same shielding as CD Players and laptops and all that. marc On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 05:57:59PM +0100, Andrew Grafham wrote: I remember way back when there was a discussion on here about whether or not it was safe/allowed to use Minidisc players in aeroplanes. What's the current state of play with this? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MZ-1
hi, I have an old MZ-1 that started having troubles years ago and i tucked it away. sony said the head was out of alignment and wanted 150 USD to fix it. at the time that was WAY more money that i could spend on anything so i just forgot about it. recently i pulled it out and started playing w/ it. When i put in a MD it makes a clicking noise and takes about 10seconds or more to recognise the MD, the same thing when i hit play. after its playing i can FF or RW(que) or skip tracks back and forth w/ out a problem. theres limited info on the web about something so old, but i was wondering if anyone knew of a quick fix for this, i remember at least one MD unit that service mode could realign the head, but the listing for the MZ-1 on minidisc.org said this isn't one of them. and to me it doesn't sound like its a head alignment problem cause otherwise it couldn't record(it does i tested it same time issue/clicking as play but it will start eventually) or play. marc - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MZ-1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My MZ-E2 has this problem as well. (But it's not a recorder) sorry, I don't know how to fix it on mine. - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marc Britten Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:30 AM To: minidisc Subject: MD: MZ-1 hi, I have an old MZ-1 that started having troubles years ago and i tucked it away. sony said the head was out of alignment and wanted 150 USD to fix it. at the time that was WAY more money that i could spend on anything so i just forgot about it. recently i pulled it out and started playing w/ it. When i put in a MD it makes a clicking noise and takes about 10seconds or more to recognise the MD, the same thing when i hit play. after its playing i can FF or RW(que) or skip tracks back and forth w/ out a problem. theres limited info on the web about something so old, but i was wondering if anyone knew of a quick fix for this, i remember at least one MD unit that service mode could realign the head, but the listing for the MZ-1 on minidisc.org said this isn't one of them. and to me it doesn't sound like its a head alignment problem cause otherwise it couldn't record(it does i tested it same time issue/clicking as play but it will start eventually) or play. marc - - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOyUSbIXjRSFNUaVcEQIz5QCg8sIe7ZqW7mTwqg4kclsElQV/G18AoIy4 XdBKknvN86P2v7qJpPHfyszf =Ui1S -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
* Shawn Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 11 Jun 2001 | My circa 1994 Sony MDS-501 (ATRAC 2) has the same Dolby Labs | license/patent message printed on the back of the unit itself and also | in the manual. My dates could be off. I was under the impression that the joint work had come later, not earlier. That license could also be for noise reduction in the analog circuitry. Without more details (which are probably not available) it is hard to say what is what. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZ-1
Marc Britten wrote: I have an old MZ-1 that started having troubles years ago and i tucked it away. sony said the head was out of alignment and wanted 150 USD to fix it. at the time that was WAY more money that i could spend on anything so i just forgot about it. recently i pulled it out and started playing w/ it. When i put in a MD it makes a clicking noise and takes about 10seconds or more to recognise the MD, the same thing when i hit play. after its playing i can FF or RW(que) or skip tracks back and forth w/ out a problem. theres limited info on the web about something so old, but i was wondering if anyone knew of a quick fix for this, i remember at least one MD unit that service mode could realign the head, but the listing for the MZ-1 on minidisc.org said this isn't one of them. and to me it doesn't sound like its a head alignment problem cause otherwise it couldn't record(it does i tested it same time issue/clicking as play but it will start eventually) or play. Will it read prerecorded MD's? In my experience, there are 2 things that can fix an MD player that will read prerecorded MD's and not recordable ones: - MO Focus Bias - Laser Power (or MO Laser Read Power if it's separate) I always start with MO Focus Bias. Adjusting it will fix MD players that aren't too worn out. If MO Focus Bias doesn't correct it at all, then I move on to Laser Power and increase it JUST A LITTLE until it will read an MD. If neither control will result in the ability to read an MD, then usually that means the optical block is just hopelessly worn out and needs replacement. I'm not sure what other head alignment is possible. If it's just having difficulty finding the TOC, then it probably just has a bad end-of-travel microswitch. Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Archive: Cd-rw faq?
Gerard I have this link in Favorites: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/cdrom/cd-recordable/part1/preamble.html Part1 - Part2 - Part3 - Part4 - Single Page [comp.publish.cdrom] CD-Recordable FAQ, Part 1/4 Archive-name: cdrom/cd-recordable/part1 Posting-Frequency: monthly Last-modified: 2001/05/06 Version: 2.27 Send corrections and updates to Andy McFadden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you have a question you'd like to see answered in here, either post it to one of the comp.publish.cdrom newsgroups (if you don't have the answer), or send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (if you do). If you're reading this on a web page and want to check out the newsgroups, check out the following with a news reader. If you don't have one, you can read news and search for past articles on http://newsone.net/: news:comp.publish.cdrom.hardware news:comp.publish.cdrom.software news:comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia news:alt.comp.periphs.cdr Different HTML versions of this FAQ are available from: http://www.cdrfaq.org/ http://www.faqs.org/faqs/cdrom/cd-recordable/part1/preamble.html The text version of this FAQ is posted to Usenet and archived in four parts (if you're missing one of the Usenet-posted sections, get it from here): ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/comp.publish.cdrom.hardware/ Some translations are available (may be somewhat out of date): French: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/marc.kergomard/gravure.html Chinese: http://www.cdwell.org/ Russian: http://members.tripod.com/greatkorzhik/cdrfaq.htm Italian: http://web.tiscalinet.it/marzonaontheweb/disclaimer.html Italian (older): http://digilander.iol.it/cdrfaq/ If a Usenet news posting appears to be cut off at the bottom, and you read news with a browser like Netscape Navigator, you may need to increase a buffer size. Please DO NOT post copies of the HTML version on your web site. I keep getting e-mail from people reading versions that are several months old. You should include a link to the www.cdrfaq.org site instead. Contents .. Leo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerard Naude Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: Archive: Cd-rw faq? Quite a while ago someone published a link for a faq on cd-rw, and the technology behing it. Can someone please repost it? Obviously i'm not searching google correctly Thanks. Gerard Naude E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZ-1
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === ok, i just tested it and it will play MD's that where recorded w/ my MD-R700DPC and my MD-700DPC will play the MD i recorded using the MZ-1 if by prerecorded you mean a packaged alblum i don't own any of those so i couldn't tell you. is there a resource someplace where i can find stuff on the MO Focus and laser power you mentioned? marc On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:09:25PM -0500, Shawn Lin wrote: Will it read prerecorded MD's? In my experience, there are 2 things that can fix an MD player that will read prerecorded MD's and not recordable ones: - MO Focus Bias - Laser Power (or MO Laser Read Power if it's separate) I always start with MO Focus Bias. Adjusting it will fix MD players that aren't too worn out. If MO Focus Bias doesn't correct it at all, then I move on to Laser Power and increase it JUST A LITTLE until it will read an MD. If neither control will result in the ability to read an MD, then usually that means the optical block is just hopelessly worn out and needs replacement. I'm not sure what other head alignment is possible. If it's just having difficulty finding the TOC, then it probably just has a bad end-of-travel microswitch. Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dolby and Minidisc Patents (was: Minidiscs)
... specially since Sony had their SDDS sound system, which competed directly against Dolby Digital. It would be very weird for Sony to share technology with their primary competitors. - Original Message - From: Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: MD: Dolby and Minidisc Patents (was: Minidiscs) Then sometime after ATRAC v4.5 they collaborated with Dolby Laboratories to make improvements for mutual benefit. The results are that Dolby Digital has some of ATRAC in it and current versions of Sony ATRAC have some AC3 in them. This sounds very interesting and I'd love to know of a reference for it! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: RE: Future of MD
Hi Gerard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dataplay is yet another nail in the coffin for MD. Although the atrac compression has a foreseeable future, the actual media, MD, is dying. For audio, 74 mins on a MD sized disc is ok, when compared to Cd. Keep in mind then that it is compressed. Now, imagine atrac 3 compression on a 500 MB disc. That is going to give you lots of music for a small dataplay type disc. Even further, imagine LP2 mode on a 500 MB disc. What really makes dataplay stupid of course, is the fact that it is a write once type media. But, if they can make write once media that size, then re-writeable discs are just around the corner. Well, maybe. But I doubt that non-re-writeable disc based devices could read them (unless they're planning for it, but then, don't you reckon they'd be touting re-writeability as an upcoming feature?) Heck, personally I like the idea of being able to put a lot of data onto a tiny disc. Remember it does anything digital, not just music. You will be able to fit a lot of modern games onto ONE of these discs. I dunno what the bitrate of md is but, if 160 MB = 80 mins of music, then (very roughly): 500/160 = 3.125 (3.125 MD discs, per dataplay disc) 3.125 * 80 = 250 mins (500 mins in lp2 mode, i think?) Right, Dataplay is cute, but three things make it less than exciting: 1) Write once. 2) You have to *flip it over* for 500MB. It's really just 1.5x an MD, per side. 3) SDMI! This is what really makes it fizzle for me. It's got the same blasted Audio/Data firewall that hobbles MD so badly. Much more interesting media for me are the two 50mm MO discs announced for still camera use. A 1GB version from Sony/Sharp (see http://www.sony.co.jp/en/SonyInfo/News/Press/23/00-0323/) and a 730MB one that Sanyo/Olympus/Hitatchi/Maxell (see http://photo.askey.net/news/9907/99072801newstorage.asp) have announced. Without a firewall, they would make an *awesome* portable music format! With a firewall? Well (yawn), we already have MD. Does anyone know if there are any real (read: available) Dataplay based devices yet? Rick - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: md-l-digest V3 #42
That and these damn lobster-backs trying to encroach on my sovereign territory! lobster-backs? Please explain. :) In pre-revolutionary war times, and right up until then, a derogatory term for the British redcoats, or British soldiers whose coats were red, was lobster back. Oddly enough it was considered vulgar and quite offensive by the british. I remember reading an anecdote about it my history book in high school (ahhh the memories). -Rick - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones
Mike Lastucka suggested: Might have something to do with the fact that they effectively seal your canal up. :) Maybe in your case this causes issues with balance or something, causing some sort of vertigo. *shrug* I get it with the non-canal-sealing folding headphones that came with a friend's MZ-R50, too. An addendum to my previous post: I started fiddling around with my E888s, and found that if I push the earbud down (but not in) slightly, so that my ear starts to shift with it, the bass improves dramatically. Probably not to the point of 'brain-shaking' but definitely good bass, a little too much bass, even, with the player set to full boosting. So maybe my ears aren't compatible? :] I've tried it with and without the foam pads, and the only difference is that it's less comfortable without the pads. Keeping my fingers pressing on the earbuds isn't a practical solution; anybody have suggestions on how to get around this, short of perhaps hanging something heavy on the cord? 2 [) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ http://rsquared.firest0rm.org/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones
Richard Rudie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I've heard good things about the clip-on-your-ear Q33s, too, but after spending $35 for the G63s and $70 for the E888s I won't be buying any more headphones for a while anyway. The Q33's are simply *awful* headphones, unfortunately. If you want to try earclips, the best ones by far (in fact, the *only* earclips I will even put on) are the Koss KSC-35 or KSC-50 (I prefer the 35's). - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Earphones
Steve Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got a set of Etymotic ER-4S earphones, and I am astounded at the sound. They are incredible. Some people have said that the 4S's lack bass and require a headphone amp, but I'm using them with my Sony MZR-90 and they are loud enough for me with excellent bass, and that's not even with the bass boost turned on. Steve: the issues with the ER-4S needing an amp isn't whether or not they'll play *loud* enough; rather, it's whether or not they'll play *well* enough ;) The ER4S are simply designed to be used with a powerful headphone amp. If you were to buy a good amp and then use your 4S, you would immediately see what I'm talking about -- as good as you think they sound now, it's nothing compared to what a good amp will do for them. You may want to reconsider and exchange them for the ER-4P, which are specifically designed for use with portables. The don't require a separate amp to achieve their full potential, and will actually sound better than the 4S when run directly from a portable. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones
An addendum to my previous post: I started fiddling around with my E888s, and found that if I push the earbud down (but not in) slightly, so that my ear starts to shift with it, the bass improves dramatically. Probably not to the point of 'brain-shaking' but definitely good bass, a little too much bass, even, with the player set to full boosting. So maybe my ears aren't compatible? :] I've tried it with and without the foam pads, and the only difference is that it's less comfortable without the pads. Keeping my fingers pressing on the earbuds isn't a practical solution; anybody have suggestions on how to get around this, short of perhaps hanging something heavy on the cord? Keep a seriously gorgeous woman around at all times to maintain adequate pressure on your ear buds. :) Seriously though, if buds simply do not work with your ears you probably are left with two choices. a) surgery, and b) go with a different style of headphone. Do those street-style headphones sit well with you? Personally I think they make people look silly, but it may be your thing. --- Mike Lastucka, B. Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sites.netscape.net/element5/ 2048 bit DH 0x16DC15CD _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: md-l-digest V3 #42
In pre-revolutionary war times, and right up until then, a derogatory term for the British redcoats, or British soldiers whose coats were red, was lobster back. Oddly enough it was considered vulgar and quite offensive by the british. I remember reading an anecdote about it my history book in high school (ahhh the memories). I've never heard that euphemism before. :) Interesting. I think I'll toss that at one of my brit buddies, see what he does. *grin* ml --- Mike Lastucka, B. Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sites.netscape.net/element5/ 2048 bit DH 0x16DC15CD _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Dan Frakes wrote: I'm very happy for my pair of Sony MDR-CD1700. (Mind you, the successor MDR-CD2000 just sucks). Being mostly in Southern California I mostly just use them at work and on the occasional flight to somewhere else so it doesn't bother me that they're a little bulky. http://www.audioreview.com/reviews/Headphone/product_5703.shtml - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dolby and Minidisc Patents (was: Minidiscs)
* Francisco J. Huerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 11 Jun 2001 | ... specially since Sony had their SDDS sound system, which competed | directly against Dolby Digital. It would be very weird for Sony to share | technology with their primary competitors. Philips and Sharp. Names ring any bells? Philips-Magnavox, the P in S/PDIF, the maker of the other CD mechanism. Every CD mechanism out there is licensed either from Sony or from Philips. Sharp, the maker of the other MD units. All MD units sold today are Sharp, Sony, or rebadged Sharp or Sony. Sony does it all the time. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones
* Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 11 Jun 2001 | The Q33's are simply *awful* headphones, unfortunately. If you want to try | earclips, the best ones by far (in fact, the *only* earclips I will even put | on) are the Koss KSC-35 or KSC-50 (I prefer the 35's). What is different about the KSC-50? -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ returned to its special container and PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ kept under refrigeration. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sharp MD-MX30
Hi, Does anyone have the Sharp MD-MX30 system? I'm really meaning to get around to buy a decent real system; but I've been putting it off for so long that I figure I should just get SOMETHING. :-) What other small systems are recommended? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-digest V3 #42
probably nothing, its a but underused now days, like limey dago, limey maybe but dago? not many people know that one marc On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:21:18PM -, Mike Lastucka wrote: I've never heard that euphemism before. :) Interesting. I think I'll toss that at one of my brit buddies, see what he does. *grin* - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones
They are more stylish (YMMV), silver, they don't exert as much pressure as the KSC-35, and, according to a lot of reports I've seen in Headwize, due to less pressure on the ears they don't sound the same as the 35s. Less bass. Also, they seem to fall easily. People who have the 35s and the 50s actually prefer the 35s. Francisco. - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:57 PM Subject: Re: MD: Headphones * Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 11 Jun 2001 | The Q33's are simply *awful* headphones, unfortunately. If you want to try | earclips, the best ones by far (in fact, the *only* earclips I will even put - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Headphones
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === are these great for sport use? i have a pair of cheap sony wrap arounds that i bought on a trip to replace a different pair of headphones that got crushed(don't ask) and i'm looking for something w/ good sound, but will also stand up to the bouncing of outdoor cross country running. marc On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:38:34PM -0700, Dan Frakes wrote: Richard Rudie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I've heard good things about the clip-on-your-ear Q33s, too, but after spending $35 for the G63s and $70 for the E888s I won't be buying any more headphones for a while anyway. The Q33's are simply *awful* headphones, unfortunately. If you want to try earclips, the best ones by far (in fact, the *only* earclips I will even put on) are the Koss KSC-35 or KSC-50 (I prefer the 35's). - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: RE:Re: MD: Dolby and Minidisc Patents (was: Minidiscs)
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Interesting! But what I heard is a different story. When Sony first developed ATRAC, they accidentally included some technology which was patented by Dolby Lab. So every MD unit bared the Dolby Lab trademark on it. And for SDDS, which is based on ATRAC, might inherited the same technology and thus included the dolby lab patent on it. I remembered I read those on the Sony web site long ago, but forgot the exact link. If you are looking into the details, please do a search on the sony web. ... specially since Sony had their SDDS sound system, which competed directly against Dolby Digital. It would be very weird for Sony to share technology with their primary competitors. - Original Message - From: Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: MD: Dolby and Minidisc Patents (was: Minidiscs) Then sometime after ATRAC v4.5 they collaborated with Dolby Laboratories to make improvements for mutual benefit. The results are that Dolby Digital has some of ATRAC in it and current versions of Sony ATRAC have some AC3 in them. This sounds very interesting and I'd love to know of a reference for it! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] == s K O q l H c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: RE:Re: Dolby and Minidisc Patents (was: Minidiscs)
Exactly the same link I read myself. - Original Message - From: chaulsr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: MD:RE:Re: MD: Dolby and Minidisc Patents (was: Minidiscs) === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Interesting! But what I heard is a different story. When Sony first developed ATRAC, they accidentally included some technology which was patented by Dolby Lab. So every MD unit bared the Dolby Lab trademark on it. And for SDDS, which is based on ATRAC, might inherited the same technology and thus included the dolby lab patent on it. I remembered I read those on the Sony web site long ago, but forgot the exact link. If you are looking into the details, please do a search on the sony web. ... specially since Sony had their SDDS sound system, which competed directly against Dolby Digital. It would be very weird for Sony to share technology with their primary competitors. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Earphones
Steve Corey wrote: I just got a set of Etymotic ER-4S earphones, and I am astounded at the sound. They are incredible. They aren't cheap, they'll set you back about $300.00 (USD) but I think they're well worth it. They also come in a nice case with various accessories. At $300.00 you really, really, really have to be into listening with earbuds big time! You can buy a pair of Sony Glasstron TV glasses on eBay for that kind of money. The ear buds included with the glasstron are on the big side, but have decent sound and you get to view video on a virtual 52 screen. I guess it comes down to what's important to you and what value you place on it. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
John S. McLachlan wrote: With all the talk on the future of MD, the bigger question is why are companies still making cassette tape? Americans hate any kind of change, and gonna stick with crap like cassette until it's not around any more. Lots of people gave up LPs not because CD was better, but because the record companies finally stopped making them... I can understand why CDs eventually over took vinyl. I don't think that the record companies would have stopped making them if CDs hadn't eventually caught on. All of the vinyl purists who keep claiming that records sound better than CD have just having delusions. The day I bought my first CD and player was the last time I ever bought a vinyl record. Besides the clicks and pops on a brand new record, each play degrades the sound a little more. The dynamic range and signal to noise ration of a record are much less than a CD. Then there is the standard set by the RIAA (? did I get the initials correct?) that limited the frequency response of vinyl. It took a very long time for CDs to catch on in the US! Everyone's car already had a tape player in it so they weren't about to totally give up on the cassette yet (probably a lot of people were making cassettes from CDs (what a frightening thought). The timing of the release of MDs in the US was all wrong. Japan is very receptive to new things. The US is much more resistant to change. Look how long vinyl records lasted. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZ-1
Marc Britten wrote: hi, I have an old MZ-1 that started having troubles years ago and i tucked it away. sony said the head was out of alignment and wanted 150 USD to fix it. at the time that was WAY more money that i could spend on anything so i just forgot about it. recently i pulled it out and started playing w/ it. When i put in a MD it makes a clicking noise and takes about 10seconds or more to recognise the MD, the same thing when i hit play. after its playing i can FF or RW(que) or skip tracks back and forth w/ out a problem. Marc, I also have an M-Z1 (well my youngest son has it right now-so I'll probably never see it again). There were many features on that unit that you no longer find on newer portables (digital/optical out for one). But the unit uses the original version of ATRAC. The newer units offer so much more superior sound that you'd be best to hold on to the unit as a collectors piece and not invest any money in it. For $240.00 (you might even be able to do better than that) Sony's R700 portable sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
