Hi Gerard,

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dataplay is yet another nail in the coffin for MD. Although the atrac
> compression has a foreseeable future, the actual media, MD, is dying. For
> audio, 74 mins on a MD sized disc is ok, when compared to Cd. Keep in mind
> then that it is compressed. Now, imagine atrac 3 compression on a 500 MB
> disc. That is going to give you lots of music for a small dataplay type
> disc. Even further, imagine LP2 mode on a 500 MB disc.
> 
> What really makes dataplay stupid of course, is the fact that it is a write
> once type media. But, if they can make write once media that size, then
> re-writeable discs are just around the corner. 

Well, maybe. But I doubt that non-re-writeable disc based devices could
read them (unless they're planning for it, but then, don't you reckon
they'd be touting re-writeability as an upcoming feature?)

> Heck, personally I like the
> idea of being able to put a lot of data onto a tiny disc. Remember it does
> anything digital, not just music. You will be able to fit a lot of modern
> games onto ONE of these discs. I dunno what the bitrate of md is but, if 160
> MB = 80 mins of music, then (very roughly):
> 
> 500/160 = 3.125 (3.125 MD discs, per dataplay disc)
> 3.125 * 80 = 250 mins (500 mins in lp2 mode, i think?)

Right, Dataplay is cute, but three things make it less than exciting:

1) Write once.
2) You have to *flip it over* for 500MB. It's really just 1.5x an MD,
   per side.
3) SDMI! This is what really makes it fizzle for me. It's got the same
   blasted Audio/Data firewall that hobbles MD so badly.

Much more interesting media for me are the two 50mm MO discs announced
for still camera use. A 1GB version from Sony/Sharp (see
http://www.sony.co.jp/en/SonyInfo/News/Press/200003/00-0323/) and a
730MB one that Sanyo/Olympus/Hitatchi/Maxell (see
http://photo.askey.net/news/9907/99072801newstorage.asp) have
announced. Without a firewall, they would make an *awesome* portable
music format! With a firewall? Well (yawn), we already have MD.

Does anyone know if there are any real (read: available) Dataplay
based devices yet?

Rick

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