MD: . PC-based ATRAC3
Hello- Someone posted a link to the ATRAC3 codec the other day, so I downloaded and installed it. I've been converting using SoundForge5 and the save-as option. Saving as wav, while selecting the ATRAC3 option with 132 bitrate (105 for online stuff). Anyway. I don't know if it's better than MP3--most would say it is and I wouldn't disagree. But it's a hassle converting tracks one at a time, and I'm wishing for an automated process. I have not been able to find a converter that allows custom codec selection. Everything either converts to MP3 or RA so if anyone knows of a customizable encoder it would be great. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: SCMS question
Last night I made a compilation CD on a Pioneer twin deck recorder for a mate of mine, using a number of Minidisc tracks. The first few were ANALOGUE copies of MD's as the MD's were digital copies of the original CD. The last few were digital copies (bringing my Sony MZ-1 out of retirement and using its digital output to feed into the CD deck! I KNEW it would come in useful one day!), as the source was an MD recording of an analogue tape Once having compiled this I thought 'Hmmm, I'll make a copy of this for myself', and put the new CD (a mixture of analogue and digital tracks) into the CD recorder, and managed to copy it all to a blank CD. My question is because the first few tracks were analogue copies of the MD, the burner was quite happy to record these, but I was surprised the last few were allowed as these were digital copies of the MD. When does the SCMS check get done? At the start of the disc or at the start of each track? If its the start of the disc, the analogue tracks seem to have let the digital ones slip through. The only alternative I can think of is that the CD recorder switched to an analogue copy for the last few tracks? Sorry if I've not explained this very well, but anyone got any ideas? Thanks a lot Martin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email with attachments is solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Please also be aware that DnB cannot accept any payment orders or other legally binding correspondence with customers as a part of an email. This email message has been virus checked by the virus programs used in the DnB Group. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: SCMS question
=BEGIN QUOTE= Last night I made a compilation CD on a Pioneer twin deck recorder for a mate of mine, using a number of Minidisc tracks. The first few were ANALOGUE copies of MD's as the MD's were digital copies of the original CD. The last few were digital copies (bringing my Sony MZ-1 out of retirement and using its digital output to feed into the CD deck! I KNEW it would come in useful one day!), as the source was an MD recording of an analogue tape Once having compiled this I thought 'Hmmm, I'll make a copy of this for myself', and put the new CD (a mixture of analogue and digital tracks) into the CD recorder, and managed to copy it all to a blank CD. My question is because the first few tracks were analogue copies of the MD, the burner was quite happy to record these, but I was surprised the last few were allowed as these were digital copies of the MD. When does the SCMS check get done? At the start of the disc or at the start of each track? If its the start of the disc, the analogue tracks seem to have let the digital ones slip through. The only alternative I can think of is that the CD recorder switched to an analogue copy for the last few tracks? ===END QUOTE I would suspect that the Pioneer, like most twin-deck audio CD burners, would use SCMS-driven analogue routing. This means that if the tracks on the original CD are marked SCMS-final, the unit would route the signal through an internal analogue bus. The reason that this practice is common and able to be done is that a lot of these units have dual DACs - one for each transport. This also allows for the unit to be treated as two CD players -- useful for music stores, mixing and the like. With regards, Simon Mackay - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD in East Europe and carding
As much as I know the MD is NOT dying here, in Europe. In fact I was pleased to see myself an improvement since the new MDLP series. London I heard to be the center of european MD universe, then comes Germany, then France. I live in East Europe, Romania, where one can find a lot of cheap korean mp3 stuff and I must say I thought for quite a while the MD cause was lost here. But things are changing as I see more and more MD stuff at the local Sony Centers: the 500, the 700 and the 750 with FM. No sign of R900 or R909 tough. The cheapo MD blanks are considered the red TDK's (a little more than a dollar each). Our personal hell here is with the accesories, very hard - almost impossible - to find. You have to seek in Western Europe for everything and pay for transport. As the country with the strongest hacker community (after Russia) we cant use credit cards for ordering, nobody trust romanian customers anymore :-( Is a common fact that only in 2000 romanian hackers inflicted a 5.000.000 usd fraud in merchandise... Hope this will change soon. best regards, Stefan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The dying MD format :-)
Here are some pictures of it. http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/mercbenz1/maybach.htm It doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the Unimog http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/mercbenz1/unimog1.htm Shawn Lin wrote: Oh man, I looked up this Mercedes and I have to say that it may be very luxurious, but it is HIDEOUS!!! I showed pictures of it to my girlfriend, and she says, It's an eyesore! It's sick to think someone is going to drop $290,000 (USD) on that horrible looking car. Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Rating Minidiscs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jinx) writes: Lets take a poll on favorite minidiscs. Can you all rate the following discs in order of quality? TDK I've always said buy the cheapest!, but I must admit to having a soft spot for the (old?) TDK blanks with the green rubber write-protect tabs. Does TDK still make them that way? They seemed to be the only company that realized it would be nice not to require herculean force to change the read-only status of a disc. Those TDKs were also screwed together, which I thought was useful since a cartridge could then be replaced if it ever became cracked. Rick (can't believe I've entered a blanks discussion) Woudenberg - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The dying MD format :-)
on 8/31/01 12:57 AM, Shawn Lin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my personal observations, MD is only a dying format in North America. Is it really any wonder? When was the last time you could find a decent selection of MD equipment? I currently have a Kenwood MD unit in my car. And I'd love to upgrade it to a unit that uses MDLP, which is PERFECT for use in a car. But the only MDLP Kenwood has released so far with MDLP is the low end unit. The current model equivalent to the unit I have does not have MDLP. And the Sony units just look hideous. I wouldn't want to put one in my Mercedes. (It's old, but it's still has class.) Or consider the MZ-R900. Sony finally released it here not very many months ago, but only in that hideous red color. (I bought a blue one from Japan almost a year ago.) And now they're already shipping an upgraded model to the rest of the world. Or how about a boom box that uses MD? Can anyone even name one that ships in the US? Or a clock/radio/MD? Lets face it. I read about cool MD stuff all the time THAT I CAN'T EVEN BUY! Sony, and other MD manufacturers have been treating the US market like second class citizens. You can't sell products that aren't available. Is it any wonder MD is not doing well in the US? On the plus side, I've noticed more and more low end units in stores like Sears, Circuit City and others. Of course, those stores never even carry the good stuff anyway. I wonder if that trend has anything to do with the lack of availability? Ed What the Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | Lack of something to feel important about is almost the greatest | | tragedy a man may have. | | -- Arthur E. Morgan | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: . PC-based ATRAC3
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I don't know about soundforge's batch process capabilities, but CoolEdit 2000 has really good batch functions, including specifying the output format. I use it at work all the time to convert wavs to mp3s (on the order of tens of thousands of files) and it could just as easily use the ATRAC codec to save out the files. -steve Danny-K wrote: Hello- Someone posted a link to the ATRAC3 codec the other day, so I downloaded and installed it. I've been converting using SoundForge5 and the save-as option. Saving as wav, while selecting the ATRAC3 option with 132 bitrate (105 for online stuff). Anyway. I don't know if it's better than MP3--most would say it is and I wouldn't disagree. But it's a hassle converting tracks one at a time, and I'm wishing for an automated process. I have not been able to find a converter that allows custom codec selection. Everything either converts to MP3 or RA so if anyone knows of a customizable encoder it would be great. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: . PC-based ATRAC3
Easy CD-DA Extractor (http://www.poikosoft.com/cdda/) seems to be able to do what you want theorically but in my experiences (i try to do the same) it makes Windows crash (i use W2K) Deja Vu __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: . PC-based ATRAC3
i was the one that posted it, i personally use windac, has cddb support and can also rip entire cd's at a time. If you use an optical out with a good sound card on your computer to pretty descent system setup, the difference between mp3 and atrac becomes super big IMHO. however with most headphones and desktop speakers, no matter if they are thx rated or what IMO it's a little more difficult to notice the difference. anyway hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Danny-K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:11 AM Subject: MD: . PC-based ATRAC3 Hello- Someone posted a link to the ATRAC3 codec the other day, so I downloaded and installed it. I've been converting using SoundForge5 and the save-as option. Saving as wav, while selecting the ATRAC3 option with 132 bitrate (105 for online stuff). Anyway. I don't know if it's better than MP3--most would say it is and I wouldn't disagree. But it's a hassle converting tracks one at a time, and I'm wishing for an automated process. I have not been able to find a converter that allows custom codec selection. Everything either converts to MP3 or RA so if anyone knows of a customizable encoder it would be great. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Yamaha MDX-793 MiniDisc Recorder
You can see the internal layout and the manual (in text or html format) of the Yamaha MDX-793 MiniDisc Recorder at. http://www.geocities.com/groundnoiseindustries/index.html A similar copy is at MiniDisc.org. . . Thanks to them it is in HTML but I still perfer text only versions. . . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: No No No No No.. Instead, CD is the one going to die..
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === There is nothing wrong with MD, nor MP3, IMO. What's gonna change is the good old CD. Take a look at the market, we now have MD recorder, MP3 recorder, and even CD recorder, these allows us to make comparable or even exact copies of the original. Look at the number of solid states player, it pump up in the past year, one can blame the cheap memory price. But even big company like Sony, Panasonic join the battle of solid state players, Philips is going to release a mini-CD MP3 player, don't they have portable CD/MD players, won't they be competiting with their own?! On the other hand, labels are putting copy protection in the good old CD, which intents to stop peoples from ripping the CD on their PCs. Try to search copy protected cd in yahoo and see how many hits.. My theory is that hardware manufacturers got new Hi-Res formats, how are they going to complete with another good old format exists 2 decades. The best solution is to kill it.. A big move is to make every single PC in the world equipped with a CDROM/DVDROM capable of ripping the track out, do it whatever the user like.. this may post a big thread to the record labels, they may eventually move to the new formats which are copy protected, hard to break in our average technologies.. which may lead to boost to the sales of the new hardwares.. Just my 2 cents.. Hello List, I used to read one opinion after another, more and more often about the dying MD format. And I was shivering as one who killed a lot of money in several portables and decks... I've found nowadays an article in a local Playboy ;-) (I live in Romania, East Europe) dealing about the new and very expensive Mercedes - Benz Maybach. It seems Maybach will become a stand alone premium product brand but this is another story... The fanciest car I ever saw features a V12 engine, transparent roof, onboard bar, tv, radio, cd player and ...hm, hm, a md player... So I was thinking to myself, if MD is dying that means nobody will producesell it anymore. So I could sell my old and useless MD stuff to those crazy german engineers to be refurbished and accomodated in the new Mercedes... my two cents, :-) AdWiser P.S. - Who wants to build a new BMW? I have also a really useless Nomad 2 from Creative... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] == s K O q l H c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: No No No No No.. Instead, CD is the one going to die..
chaulsr wrote: There is nothing wrong with MD, nor MP3, IMO. What's gonna change is the good old CD. Take a look at the market, we now have MD recorder, MP3 recorder, and even CD recorder, I'm not aware of any portable MP3 or CD records. There are internal and external CD writers, but they depend upon a computer and can not record from a microphone or even a audio out jack. MP3 only has players. You have to have a computer and transfer the MP3 files to the player. You can't plug in an analog or digital PCM signal (like from a portable CD player) and have the player record it. All that MP3 players do is store MP3 files (like your digital camera stores jpg (except the camera can capture the picture and the player can only accept MP3 files that are already compressed. The the MP3 player has a decoder so that you can listen to music either on a stereo or headphones. Nothing more. these allows us to make comparable or even exact copies of the original. Look at the number of solid states player, it pump up in the past year, one can blame the cheap memory price. You can make copies, but you can't record like you can with MD. Also, I'm concerned that certain, if not all, brands of CDRs will deteriorate over time. I just don't trust anything that starts out one shade of blue and ends up another. The MD has a long track record of not failing. But even big company like Sony, Panasonic join the battle of solid state players, Philips is going to release a mini-CD MP3 player, don't they have portable CD/MD players, won't they be competiting with their own?! I've never seen a portable CD/MD player. The smallest I know of is a bookshelf unit. Did you mean portable CD/MP3 player (using a home made CDR or CDRW from which you copied files). On the other hand, labels are putting copy protection in the good old CD, which intents to stop peoples from ripping the CD on their PCs. Try to search copy protected cd in yahoo and see how many hits.. My theory is that hardware manufacturers got new Hi-Res formats, how are they going to complete with another good old format exists 2 decades. The best solution is to kill it.. A big move is to make every single PC in the world equipped with a CDROM/DVDROM capable of ripping the track out, do it whatever the user like.. this may post a big thread to the record labels, they may eventually move to the new formats which are copy protected, hard to break in our average technologies.. which may lead to boost to the sales of the new hardwares.. If the high res battle is anything like HDTV, you won't see a standard for 10 years! Actually the problem with HDTV was not just competing designs. The FCC put certain restrictions on them and it took 10 years settle that. LAS - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Rating Minidiscs
Heh... combining this thread with the one about US availability. If I go into Woolworths, Tower Records, Virgin, or many other places there are zip up MD wallets right next to the CD ones, bookshelf storage units, boxes, MD player pouches, and stuff like that. I can see why a lot of US residents wouldn't want to get into MD - poor availability, and not being able to go out and get simple accessories would make it frustrating. Something you would have to be dedicated about I suppose. -Rich carrying case. I probably need to look into that. I'm sure I'll have to convert something because nobody makes zip-up carry cases for minidiscs. I am glad my carrying case finally arrived from Sony after 4 months. Pouches for a few discs and/or extra battery and stuff like that. I need to find a second one though. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
