Re: MD: Digest mode vrs individual messages.
- I don't want to get 30 different mails at once when I get home at evening, I want the few mails of my friends, 1 or 2 MD-L digests and that's it. The less separate new mails I get, the happier I am. (Even if they get in different folders) My habit. one digest is about the same as 30 individual emails, so you aren't saving anything and youare depriving yourself of ways to handle the 30 emails because you can's sort a digest. What really gets me angry, is that you permit yourself to judge my habits. I suggest you to send some example of your everyday habits, and let us judge them, comment them, say how you can do better because of course WE know better. When I check my mail usually I see "4 mails left to download" when I haven't checked my mail in a whole day, what does it tell me? It tells me that I have a high probability that in those 4 mails there is: a high probability of 1-2 MD digest AND a high probability that some friend of mine has wrote to me. Conclusion: I know even before it has finished downloading, that some friend wrote me. Can't do that when I get "40 mails left to download". No big deal? Big deal TO ME. My habit. Dont need to have you commenting on that. You probably have it set up incorrectly. Check the previous post I made regarding how to do it with Eudora. Your previous post doesn't say anything about fetching mail that has already been filtered by another mailer. And don't bother looking for a solution (if there is one) to prove your point, I won't change to individual messages. If the individual MD messages are sorted into an MD folder, you can delete the entire contents of the md folder the same way you do a digest. You can also sort by subject, scan the subjects and delete No, I have to: go to the MD folder, select the messages I want to delete and then delete them. Can't be bothered. No big deal? Big deal to ME blabla everything you aren't interested in and save the 3 or 4 messages you are interested in to read later. You can't do that with a digest. I do not care about reading later, I want everything deleted. And dont want to bother taking the steps to do so. And if I didn't do that, I'd pretty soon have a huge stack of unread messages, and I don't want that. No one does want that. Well I WILL get such a stack, because I'm lazy person and it definitely will happen that I won't go in days to the MD folder. With individual messages, the mail program becomes your index. Again, I want to delete the thing with a touch of the Del key, no more steps. Oh and I know all of your arguments, yet I don't want to change. Other people have wrote that they subscribe to several mailing lists and use for each a different fetching mode, that obviously means that depending on the list, on the wish of the subscriber, one mode or the other is the one that suits their need. Are you that bright, that you can imagine ALL situations involving a digest? I play halflife, it happens often that I forget to close Eudora: with digest mode, there is little chance I start downloading one digest right when I'm playing since I only get 1 or 2 digest in 24 hours. With un-digested mode, there is GREAT chance that my mailer will start downloading 4 or 5 MD mails while I play, hence killing my ping and me by the same way. Please, STOP commenting our habits, you are *offending*. You look like my 14 yr old cousin who *absolutely* has to be right and *absolutely* won't admit he's wrong/partially wrong/a tad wrong/just a little bit wrong no matter what. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Digest mode vrs individual messages.
Michael Stouffs wrote: Please, STOP commenting our habits, you are *offending*. You look like my 14 yr old cousin who *absolutely* has to be right and *absolutely* won't admit he's wrong/partially wrong/a tad wrong/just a little bit wrong no matter what. You have never met me, how would you know what I look like? At least I don't stoop to personal attacks. I took the time to inform people how to use individual email to their advantage. Like the old saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Digest mode vrs individual messages.
J. Coon wrote: Michael Stouffs wrote: Please, STOP commenting our habits, you are *offending*. You look like my 14 yr old cousin who *absolutely* has to be right and *absolutely* won't admit he's wrong/partially wrong/a tad wrong/just a little bit wrong no matter what. You have never met me, how would you know what I look like? At least I don't stoop to personal attacks. I took the time to inform people how to use individual email to their advantage. Like the old saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. No, you don't stoop to personal attacks, you rather attack whole groups of people at once. Your courage is commendable. Your behavior is not, however. Several people took the time to explain to you that what works best for you, might not be the best solution for everyone. Yet you insist on shoving your viewpoint down other peoples' throats over and over again. Many have indicated that they do not wish to receive SPAM through the mailing list. Yet because *you* like receiving these messages, they are supposed to go out of their way to suit you. Lastly, you *again* insult the intelligence of a person who pointed out why (s)he prefers getting the digest by stating that (s)he must be doing something wrong if (s)he can't filter the messages in Eudora. Don't bother replying, you've been plonked. ,xtG .tsooJ -- Joost van de Griek Applications Developer Yacht ICT http://www.yachtgroup.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Digest mode vrs individual messages.
Please, STOP commenting our habits, you are *offending*. You look like my 14 yr old cousin who *absolutely* has to be right and *absolutely* won't admit he's wrong/partially wrong/a tad wrong/just a little bit wrong no matter what. You have never met me, how would you know what I look like? At least I don't stoop to personal attacks. I took the time to inform people how to use individual email to their advantage. Like the old saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Ok I promise this is my last mail about this, we're starting to both spam and probably annoy people with our little "flames". Answer this question you still haven't answered to: Other people have wrote that they subscribe to several mailing lists and use for each a different fetching mode, that obviously means that depending on the list, on the wish of the subscriber, one mode or the other is the one that suits better a particular list. 2 possibilities: 1) they're stupid and they don't know how to set up individual mails fetching mode for all their mailing list. 2) depending on the amount of interest they have on the subject of the list, the amount of messages the list generates, the amount of their participation to the list, they prefer to have "digest mode" or "individual messages mode", both fitting different needs. So far, you're implying 1) that's why, oh surprise, you're getting personal attacks, because you're insulting our intelligence, and are "exasperatingaly" continuing to do so, hence me calling you a stubborn person. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Digest mode vrs individual messages.
I'm sending a couple "technical" responses, since the topical responses seem to be irrelevant: one digest is about the same as 30 individual emails Not even close. Especially with short messages, thirty individual messages can be 20-25 times bigger in terms of message size than a single digest. Thirty messages take substantial more time to download, regardless of message size, than a single digest. And for those who pay their ISP per message (common in non-U.S. countries), thirty individual messages costs 30x more. - I sometimes check my mail with Pine when I'm at school, I don't want to have the messages I really care about (read: not-MD related) to be flooded in the MD messages. (set up filters? Eudora (at home) won't fetch the messages filtered by Pine in the Pine MD folder, I just checked that) You probably have it set up incorrectly. Check the previous post I made regarding how to do it with Eudora. *SIGH* He doesn't have it set up incorrectly. Pine is a terminal-based email program, but one that is estimated to be used by more people in the world than Eudora, since most academic and research institutions still allow every user to check their email using Pine. When you view messages in Pine, and file messages in Pine, they stay on the server -- they are not downloaded to a local machine. When you *file* messages in Pine to a Pine-based folder, they cannot be downloaded by ANY email client, because they are no longer in the POP queue. This is not a problem with Pine -- it is a *feature* designed to allow people to use Pine filters to pre-sort mail so that only certain messages are downloaded by their POP client. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Digest mode vrs individual messages.
"J. van de Griek" wrote: No, you don't stoop to personal attacks, you rather attack whole groups of people at once. Your courage is commendable. Your behavior is not, however. I attacked no one. I merrily attempted to explain the virtues of individual posts, and how to set up filters for anyone that cared to try it out. I you don't want to hear about it, just delete the message and stop trying to convince me that I am wrong. I have never been a customer of Kheops but I still think it is important that some of the list members are able to save their hard earned cash and all I have to do is put up with a little irrelevant email. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Digest mode vrs individual messages.
Someone wrote: a lot of people get the digest because they don'tknow how to set up filters and folders. Again, It A lot of people? How do you know that? I have been on other lists and the same problem came up when the list started getting more active. - I don't want to get 30 different mails at once when I get home at evening, I want the few mails of my friends, 1 or 2 MD-L digests and that's it. The less separate new mails I get, the happier I am. (Even if they get in different folders) My habit. one digest is about the same as 30 individual emails, so you aren't saving anything and youare depriving yourself of ways to handle the 30 emails because you can's sort a digest. - I sometimes check my mail with Pine when I'm at school, I don't want to have the messages I really care about (read: not-MD related) to be flooded in the MD messages. (set up filters? Eudora (at home) won't fetch the messages filtered by Pine in the Pine MD folder, I just checked that) You probably have it set up incorrectly. Check the previous post I made regarding how to do it with Eudora. - When I don't feel like reading about minidisc I just erase the whole digest without checking it at all. (and sometimes this happens pretty often) I don't want to be bothered to go in the MD folder, select the messages I want to erase and delete them. If the individual MD messages are sorted into an MD folder, you can delete the entire contents of the md folder the same way you do a digest. You can also sort by subject, scan the subjects and delete everything you aren't interested in and save the 3 or 4 messages you are interested in to read later. You can't do that with a digest. And if I didn't do that, I'd pretty soon have a huge stack of unread messages, and I don't want that. No one does want that. - I want it to be like a newspaper: I check the index to see what's interesting, read the interesting messages, then erase the whole thing (without having to select the messages I want to erase blabla) With individual messages, the mail program becomes your index. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
