Re: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30
cc:(bcc: Steven Brooks/HOME_OFF/AGLIFE) Before logging my comments on the MZ-R30... Am I correct in the assumption that there was some kind of SMTP conversion on this message that resulted in a bcc field being included visibly in the message body? Christ, if the product I serve as point for did that we'd be out of business... hopefully, it's either the Steven's client or someone needs to spank their ISP for not setting the MX up correctly. nuff said ... Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30 I don't have any minidisc devices, however i am thinking of purchasing a used Sony MZ-R30. Is this a good unit? I don't have many choices, so im looking for maybe "dont buy it and save your money" answers, rather than "buy this or that instead" answers. I have an R30 and I absolutely love it. I would imagine the R55 or one of it's other decendents is even nicer, but I haven't really played with em. I would even risk the debate and say that the difference in audio output is remarkably close to that of my portable DAT deck (PCM-M1), considering all the psychoimaging going on. My attorney regular goes to concerts with me and patches optically to my deck using my md deck. And the CDs he burns, sound only marginally different. Course the model is several years old, and I doubt it's still in production. But if you can score a close-out for under say $225 (which is what I bought mine for from an outfit in California), it's a good deal. I doubt I'd ever consider buying _any_ used md portable from anyone I didn't know, simply because they're so delicate. But just bear in mind when shopping on ebay and places like that, if it's "catchy" technology, the sellers want way too much even at the opening bid. I frequently see old TCD-D3 DATs (so obsolete, they're practically an ashtray) go for over $400... which is rediculous considering they're probably sporting badly worn heads. What's worse is that I routinely see the PCM-M1 go for $650 and you can buy new ones @ Oade.com for that price. Bottom line, if you're paying more than $250, just spend another $100 and get the R55 Peace, Tom - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Newbie question re: Record times, Battery life
The Sharp 702 has an optional external battery pack that holds AA batteries and extends the life of the LION battery that is in the unit and rechargeable. The 702 is also very inexpensive as you can buy a new one for around $160 and refurbished ones for less. I have two of them and am very satisfied. As long as none of your animals are playing french horn, you shouldn't have any problems [grin]. With just the LION battery, you get about 4.5 hours of recording on a full charge. With just two AA batteries, you get about 4 hours, and if you have both connected you get about 8.5 hours. That should be plenty for your requirements. You also get the ability to adjust the recording level on the fly while you are recording which you don't get with Sony. I think the Sharp 722 which is a bit more money will record even longer with the above. -- Martin -Original Message- Behalf Of Lon Huber - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Newbie question re: Record times, Battery life
Howdy, all! I'm new to this list. Nice to finally be on one that stays focused on the topic! I've learned a lot while lurking the last week or so, and now have a need for some advice. I'm ready to retire my WM-D6C in favor of a portable MD recorder. The recorder will be used exclusively for field recordings of non-musical urban and natural environmental sounds, with Core Sounds binaurals and a short shotgun mic. Aside from spot-checking recordings in the field, it will most likely never be used for playback outside the studio. My main concern is battery life.I can easily imagine filling up 3 - 5 MDs in a day's recording. I understand that battery use is increased in record mode, and it would seem that my recorder of choice, the Sony R55, is particularly bad in that regard. I'm assuming I'll have to carry spare batteries, no matter what, but I'd like to carry as few as possible. I wouldn't mind buying an older model, if necessary, and although I am in the USA, a Japanese domestic model is not out of the question either. So my question is, what model can I buy which will have the longest record times while also having an up-to-date ATRAC? Or are they any custom external battery packs available which do not greatly compromise the portability of the R55? I'm sure everyone has had to deal with this issue, so any advice at all would be much appreciated. TIA, and all that! Lon Huber coelacanth-x - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30
I don't have any minidisc devices, however i am thinking of purchasing a used Sony MZ-R30. Is this a good unit? I don't have many choices, so im looking for maybe "dont buy it and save your money" answers, rather than "buy this or that instead" answers. Thanks for any advice :) - Roadmaster - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30
Well, I've got a MZ-E40 for an excellent price (~$92 on Ebay) so I can't complain too much... it is my first minidisc portie. But ideally, I would like to find a unit that doesn't skip as much, and munch both AA batteries in 1.5 hours. I've even dropped the thing, and it still works (Thank God.) As long as you don't mind holding it fairly still and buying batteries in bulk, it's an alright MD portie :) -spb Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steven Brooks/HOME_OFF/AGLIFE) Subject: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30 I don't have any minidisc devices, however i am thinking of purchasing a used Sony MZ-R30. Is this a good unit? I don't have many choices, so im looking for maybe "dont buy it and save your money" answers, rather than "buy this or that instead" answers. Thanks for any advice :) - Roadmaster - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30
From: "Steven Brooks" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I've got a MZ-E40 for an excellent price (~$92 on Ebay) so I can't complain too much... it is my first minidisc portie. But ideally, I would like to find a unit that doesn't skip as much, and munch both AA batteries in 1.5 hours. I've even dropped the thing, and it still works (Thank God.) As long as you don't mind holding it fairly still and buying batteries in bulk, it's an alright MD portie :) -spb My old MZ-R3 manages about 1.5 - 2hrs playback on 650mAh NiCad AA cells. I guess using 900mAh cells would give about 2.5hrs and using 1200mAh NiMH should give 3.5hrs playback. I must say it eats batteries while recording, roughly twice the current drain of playback. Since an alkaline AA cell has about 2000mAh or a little more you may get 6 hours playback or 3 hours recording (though the heavy drain the R3 makes when recording will shorten the life). Anyone who uses non-rechargables with their MD is mad. Almost all portable CD players have a recharge circuit for nicads. I use the R3's recharge circuit to charge my 650mAh nicads (2hr rate 350mA maximum but I think it pumps them up a bit faster). Yeah I use a bit of cardboard to make it thinks its the official NiMH pack. Personally I think this tendency to use "gumpack" proprietory batteries is a total rip-off, when you can get 2AA nicads for under ukp3 (or ukp5 for 950mAh nicads). For ukp7 you can get 2AA NiMH 1200mAh cells so except for LiIon batteries (which need special charging circuitry or they complain violently) I think we are being ripped off with gumpacks. If I want long life on the move, I stick a handfull of nicad AAs in my pocket and I can run my R3 from dawn till dusk :-) Cheers, PrinceGaz - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: newbie question re: MZ-R30
Daniel Manrique: i am thinking of purchasing a used Sony MZ-R30. Is this a good unit? Steven Brooks: I've got a MZ-E40 for an excellent price (~$92 on Ebay) so I can't complain too much... it is my first minidisc portie. But ideally, I would like to find a unit that doesn't skip as much, and munch both AA batteries in 1.5 hours. I've even dropped the thing, and it still works (Thank God.) As long as you don't mind holding it fairly still and buying batteries in bulk, it's an alright MD portie :) Prince Gaz: Anyone who uses non-rechargables with their MD is mad. Almost all portable CD players have a recharge circuit for nicads. I use the R3's recharge circuit to charge my 650mAh nicads (2hr rate 350mA maximum but I think it pumps them up a bit faster). Yeah I use a bit of cardboard to make it thinks its the official NiMH pack. From what I've heard on this list I think the MZ-R30 is a good unit. Like the Prince, I have an even older R3. The E40 does have a charging circuit also. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Newbie Question
Plus the Wav recording must be in 16bit / 44kHz stereo. (or at least converted to that if the original is not). Wrong ! Yesterday, I recorded a speech on my MD then recorded as a 22Khz 16bits mono wav file and burnt it to an audio CD using Easy CD Creator. I didn't do any conversion to the file. I didn't get any warning nor error, and the CD plays perfectly. My $0.02 Yann - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Newbie Question
Wrong ! Yesterday, I recorded a speech on my MD then recorded as a 22Khz 16bits mono wav file and burnt it to an audio CD using Easy CD Creator. I didn't do any conversion to the file. You may not have done, but your writing software did... Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Newbie Question
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === yup ! so the file does NOT need to be converted before burning. The conversion is implicit. Yann Simon Gardner wrote: Wrong ! Yesterday, I recorded a speech on my MD then recorded as a 22Khz 16bits mono wav file and burnt it to an audio CD using Easy CD Creator. I didn't do any conversion to the file. You may not have done, but your writing software did... Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Newbie Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus the Wav recording must be in 16bit / 44kHz stereo. (or at least converted to that if the original is not). Wrong ! Yesterday, I recorded a speech on my MD then recorded as a 22Khz 16bits mono wav file and burnt it to an audio CD using Easy CD Creator. I didn't do any conversion to the file. I didn't get any warning nor error, and the CD plays perfectly. My $0.02 Yann Wow... Cool down... Let me quote from GC: GC Plus the Wav recording must be in 16bit / 44kHz stereo. GC (or at least converted to that if the original is not). Let me translate it: The wav file must be in 44k1Hz/16bit. If not it must be converted. Some tools will do the conversion for you. This might not be visable to you. Cheers, Ralph - Cool as hell. (And hell is hot!) -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Newbie Question
The process burns it to a cd track. The CDR must be recorded as an audio CD for playback on standard CD players.. not a data disc just with Wavs file on it. (though it is possible to mix the two mediums on the one CDR) Plus the Wav recording must be in 16bit / 44kHz stereo. (or at least converted to that if the original is not). The process is not exceedingly complex with the current crop of software now available. But don't be dismayed if you stuff one or two CDR's up at first, most of us have made coasters at some stage. :) Cheers GC - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Newbie question recording from Minidisc to CDR
Hi Being a newbie to minidiscs i have a question. I am about to purchase a Sony MZ-R90 portable minidsic player. I want to record to minidisc using binaural mics which I have worked out. I then will want to record from minidisc to CDR (on a PC) and have not been able to find a resource on the net that explains this. I was wondering if anyone could point me to any resources about this or give me some tips. This is what I have figured out and as far as I know it could be totally wrong. Is it possible to do digital to digital minidisc to CDR recordings? I assume to do this u need a line out on the Sony minidisc that is a TOS connection? Is this the case and is there a TOS line out on the Sony minidisc recorder. Where does SPIDIF fall into this and what exactly are SPDIF and TOS, are they different? Secondly you need a TOS/SPDIF connection on the PCs soundcard (for the CDR). As long as that is the case I presume these recordings can be made. Or am I wrong and is the only output on a minidisc recorder analogue As you can see I am confused any any advice would be appreciated. Cheers Pete - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Newbie question recording from Minidisc to CDR
Is it possible to do digital to digital minidisc to CDR recordings? I assume to do this u need a line out on the Sony minidisc that is a TOS connection? Is this the case and is there a TOS line out on the Sony minidisc recorder. Where does SPIDIF fall into this and what exactly are SPDIF and TOS, are they different? Secondly you need a TOS/SPDIF connection on the PCs soundcard (for the CDR). As long as that is the case I presume these recordings can be made. Or am I wrong and is the only output on a minidisc recorder analogue As you can see I am confused any any advice would be appreciated. A. S/PDIF is the format of the audio data being transmitted (Sony/Philips Digital Interface Format). B. TOSlink (Toshiba Link) is a connection type for a physical medium (optical) which may be used to transfer the above mentioned data (other mediums include coax cables etc.) C. What you need is a digital output from the Z90 (you'll have to check that for yourself), if such an output exists it's probabely optical. D. You need a soundcard with a digital input (SB Live/Value, Hoontech's ST series etc.), and make sure the bracket on the card has the desired digital connection (either optical or RCA(coax)). If you have the Live/Value you can get Hoontech I/O board III for about 35$ which has both optical and RCA input and output. (www.hoontech.com) E. Then you record the audio stream from the MD using the sound card DIGITALY to a standard PCM encoded file on your hard drive (.wav), after which you're ready to burn it on a CDR in the standard CD-Audio format, thus the whole proccess is done digitaly and the only source for audio quality degredation is the ATRAC compression algorithm which is used to store the audio data on the MD. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Newbie question recording from Minidisc to CDR
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Thanks very much, that makes sense. Pete - Original Message - From: Ze'ev Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 11:01 PM Subject: Re: MD: Newbie question recording from Minidisc to CDR Is it possible to do digital to digital minidisc to CDR recordings? I assume to do this u need a line out on the Sony minidisc that is a TOS connection? Is this the case and is there a TOS line out on the Sony minidisc recorder. Where does SPIDIF fall into this and what exactly are SPDIF and TOS, are they different? Secondly you need a TOS/SPDIF connection on the PCs soundcard (for the CDR). As long as that is the case I presume these recordings can be made. Or am I wrong and is the only output on a minidisc recorder analogue As you can see I am confused any any advice would be appreciated. A. S/PDIF is the format of the audio data being transmitted (Sony/Philips Digital Interface Format). B. TOSlink (Toshiba Link) is a connection type for a physical medium (optical) which may be used to transfer the above mentioned data (other mediums include coax cables etc.) C. What you need is a digital output from the Z90 (you'll have to check that for yourself), if such an output exists it's probabely optical. D. You need a soundcard with a digital input (SB Live/Value, Hoontech's ST series etc.), and make sure the bracket on the card has the desired digital connection (either optical or RCA(coax)). If you have the Live/Value you can get Hoontech I/O board III for about 35$ which has both optical and RCA input and output. (www.hoontech.com) E. Then you record the audio stream from the MD using the sound card DIGITALY to a standard PCM encoded file on your hard drive (.wav), after which you're ready to burn it on a CDR in the standard CD-Audio format, thus the whole proccess is done digitaly and the only source for audio quality degredation is the ATRAC compression algorithm which is used to store the audio data on the MD. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
