Re: MD: Successful cloning on Sony MZ-R55 ?

2001-01-11 Thread David W. Tamkin


When I wrote,

|  Cloning is the right solution, but you won't find instructions for doing it
|  on an R55.

Sean followed up,

| Well, the only person I know has a Sony MZ-R90/91 (can't remember now)
| Does cloning work on those? Or is cloning a total NONO on all Sony
| protables?

No, sorry, nobody has reported a way to do it on a Sony portable.

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Re: MD: Successful cloning on Sony MZ-R55 ?

2001-01-10 Thread Sean Snyders


"Sean" replies:

 Cloning is the right solution, but you won't find instructions for doing it
 on an R55.

Well, the only person I know has a Sony MZ-R90/91 (can't remember now)
Does cloning work on those? Or is cloning a total NONO on all Sony protables?


 Perhaps someone else near you has a machine that can clone TOCs,

Geeesh, don't know of anybody having a Deck, I guess South Africa is a bit
backwaters ?


 but I do caution you, you may have to recover the whole disc as one track and
 redivide
 all tracks from one another and retitle them all.

That's no problem, I'll definitely go through the trouble, I just NEED my music
back!

Thanx

Sean.

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Re: MD: Successful cloning on Sony MZ-R55 ?

2001-01-10 Thread Sean Snyders


"Sean" replies to "Richard"

 If you don't know anyone with a deck, maybe you could even try it on a demo
 model on the shelf at a local store if they'll let you - the procedure takes
 all of about 2 minutes and is very straightforward -

Wow, won't the sales-people go all freakin? I see that happening here in South
Africa !


 I can't see it damaging
 the deck (if I'm wrong here someone please let me know!).


For your part, hopefully not.


Thanx,

Sean.


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Re: MD: Successful cloning on Sony MZ-R55 ?

2001-01-10 Thread Sean Snyders


"Sean" replies to "Richard"

 If you don't know anyone with a deck, maybe you could even try it on a demo
 model on the shelf at a local store if they'll let you - the procedure takes
 all of about 2 minutes and is very straightforward -

Wow, won't the sales-people go all freakin? I see that happening here in
South
Africa !


 I can't see it damaging
 the deck (if I'm wrong here someone please let me know!).


For your part, hopefully not.


Thanx,

Sean.


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Re: MD: Successful cloning on Sony MZ-R55 ?

2001-01-10 Thread Sean Snyders


"Sean" replies:

 Cloning is the right solution, but you won't find instructions for doing it
 on an R55.

Well, the only person I know has a Sony MZ-R90/91 (can't remember now)
Does cloning work on those? Or is cloning a total NONO on all Sony
protables?


 Perhaps someone else near you has a machine that can clone TOCs,

Geeesh, don't know of anybody having a Deck, I guess South Africa is a
bit
backwaters ?


 but I do caution you, you may have to recover the whole disc as one track and
 redivide
 all tracks from one another and retitle them all.

That's no problem, I'll definitely go through the trouble, I just NEED
my music
back!

Thanx

Sean.

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Re: MD: Successful cloning on Sony MZ-R55 ?

2001-01-09 Thread David W. Tamkin


Sean asked,

| (1) is it possible to SAFELY to TOC cloning on a Sony MZ-R55 ?

It's not possible, safely nor dangerously, on the R55, as far as anyone has
reported in the fora I follow.  TOCs can be cloned on Sony decks (except the
ATRAC 4.0 series), on Sharp slot-in portables, and on those Sharp clamshell
portables where the disc insertion sensor is accessible from the opening.

| (2) have someone done it before successfully?

Not on an R55, AFAIK.

| (4) is it possible, now, to take a disc which is recorded full of data and
| take that disc's TOC and 'clone' it to my 'damaged' disc?

Not with an R55.  In your case, there is an additional complication: the
track you mistakenly deleted and want to recover may have shared a cluster
with a track you kept.  Partial recoveries need to be in segments of six or
more whole clusters, so ... well, let's just say, it's not the sort of thing
I could cover when I wrote up the JE520 cloning instructions.

| (5) I'm very scared about this test-mode stuff as I bought my Minidisc
| unit overseas (only have a European warranty) at 50% cheaper as what it
| costs here in South Africa ! You think it is safe?

There's no point in trying test mode, because an R55 cannot clone TOCs.

| (6) can you give me a sort-of step by step for a solution. I know alot
| of people have written about this, but I am not able to find anything on
| most portable recorders ( especially Sony MZ-R55) and is cloning the
| right solutuion?

Cloning is the right solution, but you won't find instructions for doing it
on an R55.

Perhaps someone else near you has a machine that can clone TOCs, but I do
caution you, you may have to recover the whole disc as one track and redivide
all tracks from one another and retitle them all.

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RE: MD: Successful cloning on Sony MZ-R55 ?

2001-01-09 Thread Richard Lang


Hi Sean,

If you haven't recorded any new music onto the disc (i.e. so the recording
is still physically on the disc, even if the TOC has been updated to record
it as erased), it sounds to me like a TOC clone would restore your
recording.

However, the bad news is I'm unaware of any instructions for TOC cloning on
a Sony portable, including the R55.  Most Sony home decks can do it - I've
done TOC clones on my Sony JE520 deck with ease - and as far as I'm aware
there is no danger to the deck in doing this - so maybe you should find
someone with a Sony deck who can help you out.

If you don't know anyone with a deck, maybe you could even try it on a demo
model on the shelf at a local store if they'll let you - the procedure takes
all of about 2 minutes and is very straightforward - I can't see it damaging
the deck (if I'm wrong here someone please let me know!).

richard


Richard Lang
Solicitor

Duncan Cotterill
Christchurch, New Zealand


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 From: Sean Snyders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 Subject: MD: Successful cloning on Sony MZ-R55 ?
...
 Hi, I have been using my protable player/recorder ( Sony MZ-R55) for
 only 6 months and obviously bumped into this foolish
 problem: I deleted some of the discs contents accidentaly.
...
 (1) is it possible to SAFELY to TOC cloning on a Sony
 MZ-R55 ?
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