[Mdaemon-L] Email Tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L]

On 8/3/23 14:11, Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Mohon bantuannya, ini ada user kami yang mau kirim email keluar tertolak


Kira2 permasalahannya karena apa ya Pak ? 





[00711142] *  Connection established 172.16.0.6:60779 --> 103.82.243.65:25
  [00711142] Waiting for protocol to start...
  [00711142] <-- 220-c125.idcloudhosting.cloud ESMTP Exim 4.96 #2 Thu, 03 Aug 
2023 13:36:48 +0700



 [00711142] <-- 550-[202.148.25.131]:60779 is not permitted to relay through 
this server
  [00711142] <-- 550 without authentication.
  [00711142] <-- 550-Please turn on SMTP Authentication in your mail client. 
bb.ptbmi.com



Mail hosting mengubah DNS host record indolabel.asia, tetapi lupa 
mengupdate allow domain di server c125.idcloudhosting.cloud [103.82.243.65].


Kelihatannya hoster sudah menyadari kesalahanya dan melakukan perbaikkan.
Dikirim ulang (resent) saja mail yang tadi gagal dikirim.

$ host -v -t a indolabel.asia 223.6.6.6
Trying "indolabel.asia"
Using domain server:
Name: 223.6.6.6
Address: 223.6.6.6#53
Aliases:

;; ANSWER SECTION:
indolabel.asia. 3003IN  A   123.100.226.163



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[Mdaemon-L] Email Tertolak

[Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L]

Selamat Siang



Dear Pak Syafril

Mohon bantuannya, ini ada user kami yang mau kirim email keluar tertolak

Berikut Log Errornya,



Kira2 permasalahannya karena apa ya Pak ? mohon pencerahannya





Terima Kasih

Rievo



[00711142] REMOTE message: pd3501000911277.msg

  [00711142] *  Session 00711142; child 0005

  [00711142] *  From: 
purchasing.sury...@ptbmi.com

  [00711142] *  To: suha...@indolabel.asia

  [00711142] *  Subject: Request Buyer Urgent

  [00711142] *  Message-ID: 
<2774be7e73ee4a2ebde5d8943d0e2...@ptbmi.co.id>

  [00711142] *  Size: 3061525;



  [00711142] *  Archived:

x\arc500100649.msg

  [00711142] *  Route slip host: indolabel.asia

  [00711142] *  Route slip port: 25

  [00711142] Resolving TXT record for _mta-sts.indolabel.asia (DNS Server:

223.6.6.6)...

  [00711142] No MTA-STS TXT record found

  [00711142] Resolving MX record for indolabel.asia (DNS Server:

223.6.6.6)...

  [00711142] *  P=000 S=000 D=indolabel.asia TTL=(0) MX=[indolabel.asia]

  [00711142] Attempting SMTP connection to indolabel.asia

  [00711142] Resolving A record for indolabel.asia (DNS Server:

223.6.6.6)...

  [00711142] *  D=indolabel.asia TTL=(0) A=[103.82.243.65]

  [00711142] Attempting SMTP connection to 103.82.243.65:25

  [00711142] Waiting for socket connection...

  [00711142] *  Connection established 172.16.0.6:60779 --> 103.82.243.65:25

  [00711142] Waiting for protocol to start...

  [00711142] <-- 220-c125.idcloudhosting.cloud ESMTP Exim 4.96 #2 Thu, 03 Aug 
2023 13:36:48 +0700

  [00711142] <-- 220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport 
unsolicited,

  [00711142] <-- 220 and/or bulk e-mail.

  [00711142] --> EHLO bb.ptbmi.com

  [00711142] <-- 250-c125.idcloudhosting.cloud Hello bb.ptbmi.com 
[202.148.25.131]

  [00711142] <-- 250-SIZE 52428800

  [00711142] <-- 250-8BITMIME

  [00711142] <-- 250-PIPELINING

  [00711142] <-- 250-PIPECONNECT

  [00711142] <-- 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN

  [00711142] <-- 250-STARTTLS

  [00711142] <-- 250 HELP

  [00711142] --> STARTTLS

  [00711142] <-- 220 TLS go ahead

  [00711142] SSL negotiation successful (TLS 1.2,

TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256)

  [00711142] SSL certificate is not valid (does not match indolabel.asia)

  [00711142] --> EHLO bb.ptbmi.com

  [00711142] <-- 250-c125.idcloudhosting.cloud Hello bb.ptbmi.com 
[202.148.25.131]

  [00711142] <-- 250-SIZE 52428800

  [00711142] <-- 250-8BITMIME

  [00711142] <-- 250-PIPELINING

  [00711142] <-- 250-PIPECONNECT

  [00711142] <-- 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN

  [00711142] <-- 250 HELP

  [00711142] --> MAIL 
From:mailto:prvs=15791addad=purchasing.sury...@ptbmi.com>>

SIZE=3061586

  [00711142] --> RCPT To:mailto:be...@indolabel.asia>>

  [00711142] --> RCPT To:mailto:c...@indolabel.asia>>

  [00711142] --> RCPT To:mailto:d...@indolabel.asia>>

  [00711142] --> RCPT To:mailto:suha...@indolabel.asia>>

  [00711142] --> DATA

  [00711142] <-- 250 OK

  [00711142] <-- 550-Please turn on SMTP Authentication in your mail client.

bb.ptbmi.com

  [00711142] <-- 550-[202.148.25.131]:60779 is not permitted to relay through 
this server

  [00711142] <-- 550 without authentication.

  [00711142] <-- 550-Please turn on SMTP Authentication in your mail client.

bb.ptbmi.com

  [00711142] <-- 550-[202.148.25.131]:60779 is not permitted to relay through 
this server

  [00711142] <-- 550 without authentication.

  [00711142] <-- 550-Please turn on SMTP Authentication in your mail client.

bb.ptbmi.com

  [00711142] <-- 550-[202.148.25.131]:60779 is not permitted to relay through 
this server

  [00711142] <-- 550 without authentication.

  [00711142] <-- 550-Please turn on SMTP Authentication in your mail client.

bb.ptbmi.com

  [00711142] <-- 550-[202.148.25.131]:60779 is not permitted to relay through 
this server

  [00711142] <-- 550 without authentication.

  [00711142] --> QUIT


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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Agus Tarpindo]

YTH Pak Syafril
Pagi Pak, mohon maaf baru reply emailnya

> domain jpf.or.id hosting di gmail apps.
> 
> https://gsuite.google.com/products/gmail/
> 
> gmail apps atau Google suite itu mirip dengan (saingan dari) Office365 nya
> microsoft.
>

Ohh jadi begitu ya Pak, baik terima kasih informasinya Pak

> Konversi Excel file ke PDF atau ke ReadOnly file hanya bisa dilakukan di PC
> client melalui aplikasi MS Office.
> 
> Cara lain yang bisa dicoba adalah save as password protect file excel file 
> atau
> compress filenya.
> 
> http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/18.0/index.html?cf_compression.
> htm
> 
> [x] Enable compression of attachments for outbound messages
>
Baik Pak, terima kasih juga atas sekali penjelasannya

Best regards, 

Agus 



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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On 2018-06-30 12:38, Agus Tarpindo (agus.tarpi...@os-selnajaya.com) wrote:
>> Gmail apps tidak memperkenankan lampiran MS doc yang mengandung Macro
> (formula).
>> Konversikan excel filenya ke PDF file atau save as read only file setelah
> itu lampirkan di mail.
> 
> Tapi yang saya bingung baik pengirim ataupun penerima tidak memakai domain
> dari Gmail Pak.


domain jpf.or.id hosting di gmail apps.

https://gsuite.google.com/products/gmail/

gmail apps atau Google suite itu mirip dengan (saingan dari) Office365
nya microsoft.


> Blokiran Gmail apps ini apakah terdapat pada MD saya atau mail server
> penerima Pak ?


Server penerima.

> Apakah ada cara setingan yang bisa di ubah agar bias kirim file tersebut Pak
> ?


Konversi Excel file ke PDF atau ke ReadOnly file hanya bisa dilakukan di
PC client melalui aplikasi MS Office.

Cara lain yang bisa dicoba adalah save as password protect file excel
file atau compress filenya.

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/18.0/index.html?cf_compression.htm

[x] Enable compression of attachments for outbound messages




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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Agus Tarpindo]

YTH Pak Syafril

>Gmail apps tidak memperkenankan lampiran MS doc yang mengandung Macro
(formula).
>Konversikan excel filenya ke PDF file atau save as read only file setelah
itu lampirkan di mail.

Tapi yang saya bingung baik pengirim ataupun penerima tidak memakai domain
dari Gmail Pak.
Pengirim dan penerima sama-sama menggunakan domain masing-masing perusahaan.
  [065884] *  From: hag...@os-selnajaya.com
  [065884] *  To: k...@jpf.or.id
Blokiran Gmail apps ini apakah terdapat pada MD saya atau mail server
penerima Pak ?
Apakah ada cara setingan yang bisa di ubah agar bias kirim file tersebut Pak
?

Mohon pencerahannya kembali, terima kasih sebelumnya

Best regards, 

Agus 



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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On 2018-06-30 08:47, Agus Tarpindo (agus.tarpi...@os-selnajaya.com) wrote:
> Mohon bantuan Analisa log berikut Pak, kira-kira dibagian apakah yang
> menyebabkan email dari user saya terblokir ?
> 
> Karena attachmentnya merupakan file Ms Excel biasa saja dan di body
> email tidak ada kata-kata terlarang (porno).


>   [065884] <-- 552-5.7.0 This message was blocked because its content 
> presents a potential
> 
>   [065884] <-- 552-5.7.0 security issue. Please visit
> 
>   [065884] <-- 552-5.7.0  https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BlockedMessage 
> to review our
> 
>   [065884] <-- 552 5.7.0 message content and attachment content guidelines. 
> v21-v6si8252645pgn.371 - gsmtp


Gmail apps tidak memperkenankan lampiran MS doc yang mengandung Macro
(formula).
Konversikan excel filenya ke PDF file atau save as read only file
setelah itu lampirkan di mail.


https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=0-636659291825804565-2898886789&rd=1

---
To protect you against potential viruses and harmful software, Gmail
doesn't allow you to attach certain types of files, including:

Certain types of files, including their compressed form (like .gz or
.bz2 files) or when found within archives (like .zip or .tgz files)
Documents with malicious macros
Password protected archives whose content is an archive
---


https://www.excel-easy.com/examples/pdf.html
https://www.wikihow.com/Convert-Excel-to-PDF

https://www.excel-easy.com/examples/read-only-workbook.html
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/make-a-document-read-only-5c25909c-46d9-4eb0-9d1f-d072a560e340





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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Agus Tarpindo]

YTH Pak Syafril

Pagi Pak, maaf menggangu weekend nya.

Mohon bantuan Analisa log berikut Pak, kira-kira dibagian apakah yang
menyebabkan email dari user saya terblokir ?

Karena attachmentnya merupakan file Ms Excel biasa saja dan di body email
tidak ada kata-kata terlarang (porno).

Terima kasih sebelumnya

 



=  Session Transcript  =



 

  [065884] Session 065884; child 0001

  [065884] Parsing message 

  [065884] *  From: hag...@os-selnajaya.com 


  [065884] *  To: k...@jpf.or.id  

  [065884] *  Subject:  OS Selnajaya

  [065884] *  Size (bytes): 6861087

  [065884] *  Message-ID: <027801d40f94$91b1ebc0$b515c340$@os-selnajaya.com
 >

  [065884] *  This message is 0 minutes old; it has 15 minutes left in this
queue

  [065884] Attempting SMTP connection to [jpf.or.id]

  [065884] Resolving MX records for [jpf.or.id] (DNS Server: 8.8.8.8)...

  [065884] *  P=001 S=000 D=jpf.or.id TTL=(59) MX=[aspmx.l.google.com]

  [065884] *  P=005 S=001 D=jpf.or.id TTL=(59) MX=[alt2.aspmx.l.google.com]

  [065884] *  P=005 S=003 D=jpf.or.id TTL=(59) MX=[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]

  [065884] *  P=010 S=002 D=jpf.or.id TTL=(59) MX=[alt3.aspmx.l.google.com]

  [065884] *  P=010 S=004 D=jpf.or.id TTL=(59) MX=[alt4.aspmx.l.google.com]

  [065884] Attempting SMTP connection to [aspmx.l.google.com:25]

  [065884] Resolving A record for [aspmx.l.google.com] (DNS Server:
8.8.8.8)...

  [065884] *  D=aspmx.l.google.com TTL=(4) A=[74.125.68.26]

  [065884] Attempting SMTP connection to [74.125.68.26:25]

  [065884] Waiting for socket connection...

  [065884] *  Connection established (202.78.202.4:64106 -> 74.125.68.26:25)

  [065884] Waiting for protocol to start...

  [065884] <-- 220 mx.google.com ESMTP v21-v6si8252645pgn.371 - gsmtp

  [065884] --> EHLO mail.os-selnajaya.com

  [065884] <-- 250-mx.google.com at your service, [202.78.202.4]

  [065884] <-- 250-SIZE 157286400

  [065884] <-- 250-8BITMIME

  [065884] <-- 250-STARTTLS

  [065884] <-- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES

  [065884] <-- 250-PIPELINING

  [065884] <-- 250-CHUNKING

  [065884] <-- 250 SMTPUTF8

  [065884] --> STARTTLS

  [065884] <-- 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS

  [065884] SSL negotiation successful (TLS 1.2, 256 bit key exchange, 128
bit AES encryption)

  [065884] --> EHLO mail.os-selnajaya.com

  [065884] <-- 250-mx.google.com at your service, [202.78.202.4]

  [065884] <-- 250-SIZE 157286400

  [065884] <-- 250-8BITMIME

  [065884] <-- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES

  [065884] <-- 250-PIPELINING

  [065884] <-- 250-CHUNKING

  [065884] <-- 250 SMTPUTF8

  [065884] --> MAIL From:mailto:hag...@os-selnajaya.com> > SIZE=6861087

  [065884] <-- 250 2.1.0 OK v21-v6si8252645pgn.371 - gsmtp

  [065884] --> RCPT To:mailto:k...@jpf.or.id> >

  [065884] <-- 250 2.1.5 OK v21-v6si8252645pgn.371 - gsmtp

  [065884] --> DATA

  [065884] <-- 354  Go ahead v21-v6si8252645pgn.371 - gsmtp

  [065884] Sending  to
[74.125.68.26]

  [065884] Transfer Complete

  [065884] <-- 552-5.7.0 This message was blocked because its content
presents a potential

  [065884] <-- 552-5.7.0 security issue. Please visit

  [065884] <-- 552-5.7.0  https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BlockedMessage
to review our

  [065884] <-- 552 5.7.0 message content and attachment content guidelines.
v21-v6si8252645pgn.371 - gsmtp

  [065884] --> QUIT

 



=End Transcript=



 

Terima kasih

Best regards, 

Agus 

 

X-MDAV-Processed: mail.os-selnajaya.com, Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:33:12 +0700
Received: from OSSLTP106 by mail.os-selnajaya.com 
with ESMTPA id md50003168853.msg for ;
Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:33:10 +0700
X-Spam-Processed: mail.os-selnajaya.com, Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:33:10 +0700
(not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source)
X-MDRemoteIP: 182.253.176.90
X-MDHelo: OSSLTP106
X-MDArrival-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:33:10 +0700
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X-Return-Path: hag...@os-selnajaya.com
X-Envelope-From: hag...@os-selnajaya.com
X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: k...@jpf.or.id
From: "Hagusa" 
To: "'Kato'" 
Cc: "'Maonah'" ,
"'Indira'" ,
"'Sekar Ayu Prawestri'" 
Subject: =?utf-8?B?57Wm5LiO5pSv5omV44Gu6YGO5omV44GE44CB5pSv5omV5LiN6Laz44Gu?=

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boundary="=_NextPart_000_0279_01D40FCF.3E124A60"
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Content-Language: en-us
Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.os-selnajaya.com
Received-From-MTA: dns; OSSLTP106
Arrival-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:33:10 +0700
X-MDaemon-Version: 14

[MDaemon-L] Email tertolak

[Agus Tarpindo]

Yth Pak Syafril
Baik Pak, terima kasih atas pencerahannya..

Best regards, 

Agus 


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[MDaemon-L] Email tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On 23/01/17 10:04, Agus Tarpindo wrote:
> Mohon bantuan dan analisa log dibawah Pak, karena hari ini user di
> kantor tidak bisa kirim email ke kantor pusat kami di Jepang. Padahal
> kira-kira 30 menit sebelumnya dan email berikutnya menyatakan sukses
> oleh Mdaemon.

> Log email yang bisa kirim

> Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.815: 01: [307923] *  Route slip host: 
> caninternational.co

> Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:41.849: 02: [307923] <-- 250 2.0.0 OK 1485136662 
> s3si14074267plj.123 - gsmtp


Yang sukses terkirim itu cc: nya, yang ditujukan ke
 bukan ke  t-shinoy...@outsourcing.co.jp.


> 1.   Hal ini penyebabnya apa ya Pak?


> Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:54.722: 05: [307840] Sending 
>  to [27.121.52.207]
> 
> Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 04: [307840] *  Winsock Error 10054
> 
> Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 04: [307840] Error writing to socket
> 
> Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 05: [307840] Socket connection closed by the 
> other side (how rude!)


Server penerima sedang sibuk menangani mail lain sehingga untuk
sementara tidak punya cukup sumberdaya untuk menangani mail dari
os-selnajaya.com.
Mestinya MDaemon akan otmatis retry to send, dan kalau saat itu server
penerima sedang tidak sibuk akan bisa terima dengan baik.








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Kalau logika yg sejalan dg akal sehat itu disebut bertentangan atau
malah memperkosa aturan yg ada, Anda hrs menyimpulkan aturan-2x yg ada
itu bukanlah common sense melainkan common nonsense alias salah kaprah
-- Eli Goldratt


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Netiket: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette
Arsip: http://mdaemon-l.dutaint.com
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Henti Langgan: Kirim mail ke mdaemon-l-unsubscr...@dutaint.com
Versi terakhir MD 16.5.2, SP 5.1.0, OC 4.0.1, SG 4.0.1

[MDaemon-L] Email tertolak

[Agus Tarpindo]

YTH Pak Syafril

Mohon bantuan dan analisa log dibawah Pak, karena hari ini user di kantor
tidak bisa kirim email ke kantor pusat kami di Jepang. Padahal kira-kira 30
menit sebelumnya dan email berikutnya menyatakan sukses oleh Mdaemon.

1.   Hal ini penyebabnya apa ya Pak?

2.   Apakah ada setingan yang perlu dirubah pada server saya Pak? Jika
ada mohon dijelaskan secara detail ya Pak. 

3.   Apakah email yang dikirim berikutnya (setelah email tertolak) benar
sampai Pak sesuai yang di log?

 

Log email yang tidak bisa kirim

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:48.197: 01: --

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.578: 05: [307840] Session 307840; child 0001

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.578: 01: [307840] Parsing message


Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.579: 01: [307840] *  From:
diniary.triperm...@os-selnajaya.com

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.579: 01: [307840] *  To:
t-shinoy...@outsourcing.co.jp

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.579: 01: [307840] *  Subject: RE: (Send)Conslidation
PKG and IFRS PKG

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.579: 01: [307840] *  Size (bytes): 61172

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.579: 01: [307840] *  Message-ID:
<003001d2751b$cf9dd580$6ed98080$@os-selnajaya.com>

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.579: 01: [307840] *  This message is 0 minutes old;
it has 15 minutes left in this queue

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.579: 05: [307840] Attempting SMTP connection to
[outsourcing.co.jp]

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.580: 05: [307840] Resolving MX records for
[outsourcing.co.jp] (DNS Server: 8.8.8.8)...

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.599: 05: [307840] *  P=010 S=000 D=outsourcing.co.jp
TTL=(3) MX=[mailgw3.oneoffice.jp]

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.599: 05: [307840] Attempting SMTP connection to
[mailgw3.oneoffice.jp:25]

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.599: 05: [307840] Resolving A record for
[mailgw3.oneoffice.jp] (DNS Server: 8.8.8.8)...

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.700: 05: [307840] *  D=mailgw3.oneoffice.jp TTL=(4)
A=[27.121.52.207]

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.700: 05: [307840] Attempting SMTP connection to
[27.121.52.207:25]

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.700: 05: [307840] Waiting for socket connection...

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.793: 05: [307840] *  Connection established
(202.78.202.4:52913 -> 27.121.52.207:25)

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:50.793: 05: [307840] Waiting for protocol to start...

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:51.287: 02: [307840] <-- 220 mailgw3.oneoffice.jp ESMTP

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:51.288: 03: [307840] --> EHLO mail.os-selnajaya.com

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:51.381: 02: [307840] <-- 250-mailgw3.oneoffice.jp

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:51.381: 02: [307840] <-- 250-8BITMIME

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:51.381: 02: [307840] <-- 250-SIZE 52428800

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:51.381: 02: [307840] <-- 250 STARTTLS

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:51.381: 03: [307840] --> STARTTLS

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:52.387: 02: [307840] <-- 220 Go ahead with TLS

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.245: 05: [307840] SSL negotiation successful (TLS
1.0, 2048 bit key exchange, 128 bit AES encryption)

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.245: 03: [307840] --> EHLO mail.os-selnajaya.com

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.342: 02: [307840] <-- 250-mailgw3.oneoffice.jp

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.342: 02: [307840] <-- 250-8BITMIME

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.342: 02: [307840] <-- 250 SIZE 52428800

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.342: 03: [307840] --> MAIL
From: SIZE=61172

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.436: 02: [307840] <-- 250 sender
 ok

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.436: 03: [307840] --> RCPT
To:

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.648: 02: [307840] <-- 250 recipient
 ok

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:53.648: 03: [307840] --> DATA

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:54.722: 02: [307840] <-- 354 go ahead

Mon 2017-01-23 08:55:54.722: 05: [307840] Sending
 to [27.121.52.207]

Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 04: [307840] *  Winsock Error 10054 

Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 04: [307840] Error writing to socket

Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 05: [307840] Socket connection closed by the
other side (how rude!)

Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 04: [307840] *  Winsock Error 10053 

Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 04: [307840] Connection closed

Mon 2017-01-23 08:56:51.901: 01: --

 

Log email yang bisa kirim

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:01.185: 01: --

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.814: 05: [307923] Session 307923; child 0004

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.814: 01: [307923] Parsing message


Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.815: 01: [307923] *  From:
diniary.triperm...@os-selnajaya.com

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.815: 01: [307923] *  To:
t-shinoy...@outsourcing.co.jp

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.815: 01: [307923] *  Subject: RE: (Send)Conslidation
PKG and IFRS PKG

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.815: 01: [307923] *  Size (bytes): 61083

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.815: 01: [307923] *  Message-ID:
<003001d2751b$cf9dd580$6ed98080$@os-selnajaya.com>

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.815: 01: [307923] *  Route slip host:
caninternational.co

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.815: 01: [307923] *  Route slip port: 25

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.816: 01: [307923] *  This message is 1 minutes old;
it has 14 minutes left in this queue

Mon 2017-01-23 08:57:19.816: 05: [307923] Attempting SMTP connection 

[MDaemon-L] Email Tertolak

[WISNU]

pesan Error itu di kirim dari pengguna mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id ke gmail 
saya


- Original Message - 
From: "Syafril Hermansyah" 

To: "Milis Komunitas MDaemon Indonesia" 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: [MDaemon-L] Email Tertolak



On 05/11/2013 10:14 AM, WISNU wrote:

---
Mohon tidak membajak topik orang lain.
Selalu gunakan menu "compose new message" saat posting topik baru.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2406757

http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#threading

When starting a new thread don't just reply to a message sent by someone
else and clear the subject line. Not all e-mail and news clients behave
like yours and will thread messages correctly based on the
"Message-ID:", "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" headers embedded in the
messages. Only programs which don't comply with Internet standards sort
messages by subject and call that "threading". When you simply change
the subject of a message, all of the threading information remains
intact and your new "thread" simply continues at the end of the old one.
This is called thread hijacking.

By doing this, you're shooting yourself in the foot twice over. First of
all, people following a thread don't want to see unrelated messages
cropping up in the middle of it. The most complacent will just delete
your message without reading it, others will killfile you, some having
complained to you asking you to learn how to post. Secondly, those who
aren't interested in the hijacked thread and who have set their programs
to ignore it won't even see your message.

If you want to start a new thread then use your mailer's/newsreader's
"New Message" function. This will start a fresh thread of your own
without any traces of previous threads.
---


This is the mail system at host mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
  The mail system
: Host or domain name not found. Name service error
for
   name=goodguys.co.id type=A: Host found but no data record of 
requested

type


Kok aneh errornya bilang "goodguys.co.id host not found" tetapi errornya
berasal dari mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id.
Apakah server Anda relay melalui server mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id dan
saat meneruskan mail server itu menggunakan identitas goodguys.co.id?

Server mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id salahnya cuma satu, mengaktifkan banyak
PTR record.

$ host mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id
mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id has address 114.30.80.38

$ host 114.30.80.38 8.8.8.8
Using domain server:
Name: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53
Aliases:

38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer smtp.bmp.net.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.bmp.net.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.samkyung.co.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.starfashion.co.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pop.bmp.net.id.

Mestinya PTR record itu cuma pakai single, kalau banyak seperti itu akan
besar probabilitasnya terjadi masalah karena multi PTR record itu mirip
dengan A record (round robin), hasil resolvenya bergantian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_DNS_lookup

---
Multiple pointer records

While most rDNS entries only have one PTR record, DNS does not restrict
the number. However, having multiple PTR records for the same IP address
is generally not recommended, unless there is a specific need. For
example, if a web server supports many virtual hosts, there may be one
PTR record for each host and some versions of name server software will
allocate this automatically. Multiple PTR records can cause problems,
however, including triggering bugs in programs that only expect single
PTR records [1] and, in the case of a large web server, having hundreds
of PTR records can cause the DNS packets to be much larger than normal.
---

Demikian pula dengan server Anda sendiri, tidak punya PTR record yang 
valid.


$ host mail.goodguys.co.id
mail.goodguys.co.id has address 203.160.59.123

$ host 203.160.59.123
123.59.160.203.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 123-59.hanastarnet.

Hubungi ISP Anda (hanastar.net.id) agar membuatkan PTR record untuk IP
203.160.59.123 pointing ke mail.goodguys.co.id.

Penjelasan lebih jauh mengenai perlunya PTR record bisa dibaca disini

http://www.mail-archive.com/mdaemon-l@dutaint.com/msg20501.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/mdaemon-l@dutaint.com/msg20502.html


--
syafril
---
Syafril Hermansyah
Running MDaemon 13.5 Beta RC1, SP 4.1.5


If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
   -- Anatole France


--
--[MDaemon-L]-

[MDaemon-L] Email Tertolak

[WISNU]

terimaksih atas infonya
- Original Message - 
From: "Syafril Hermansyah" 

To: "Milis Komunitas MDaemon Indonesia" 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: [MDaemon-L] Email Tertolak



On 05/11/2013 10:14 AM, WISNU wrote:

---
Mohon tidak membajak topik orang lain.
Selalu gunakan menu "compose new message" saat posting topik baru.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2406757

http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#threading

When starting a new thread don't just reply to a message sent by someone
else and clear the subject line. Not all e-mail and news clients behave
like yours and will thread messages correctly based on the
"Message-ID:", "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" headers embedded in the
messages. Only programs which don't comply with Internet standards sort
messages by subject and call that "threading". When you simply change
the subject of a message, all of the threading information remains
intact and your new "thread" simply continues at the end of the old one.
This is called thread hijacking.

By doing this, you're shooting yourself in the foot twice over. First of
all, people following a thread don't want to see unrelated messages
cropping up in the middle of it. The most complacent will just delete
your message without reading it, others will killfile you, some having
complained to you asking you to learn how to post. Secondly, those who
aren't interested in the hijacked thread and who have set their programs
to ignore it won't even see your message.

If you want to start a new thread then use your mailer's/newsreader's
"New Message" function. This will start a fresh thread of your own
without any traces of previous threads.
---


This is the mail system at host mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
  The mail system
: Host or domain name not found. Name service error
for
   name=goodguys.co.id type=A: Host found but no data record of 
requested

type


Kok aneh errornya bilang "goodguys.co.id host not found" tetapi errornya
berasal dari mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id.
Apakah server Anda relay melalui server mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id dan
saat meneruskan mail server itu menggunakan identitas goodguys.co.id?

Server mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id salahnya cuma satu, mengaktifkan banyak
PTR record.

$ host mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id
mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id has address 114.30.80.38

$ host 114.30.80.38 8.8.8.8
Using domain server:
Name: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53
Aliases:

38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer smtp.bmp.net.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.bmp.net.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.samkyung.co.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.starfashion.co.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pop.bmp.net.id.

Mestinya PTR record itu cuma pakai single, kalau banyak seperti itu akan
besar probabilitasnya terjadi masalah karena multi PTR record itu mirip
dengan A record (round robin), hasil resolvenya bergantian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_DNS_lookup

---
Multiple pointer records

While most rDNS entries only have one PTR record, DNS does not restrict
the number. However, having multiple PTR records for the same IP address
is generally not recommended, unless there is a specific need. For
example, if a web server supports many virtual hosts, there may be one
PTR record for each host and some versions of name server software will
allocate this automatically. Multiple PTR records can cause problems,
however, including triggering bugs in programs that only expect single
PTR records [1] and, in the case of a large web server, having hundreds
of PTR records can cause the DNS packets to be much larger than normal.
---

Demikian pula dengan server Anda sendiri, tidak punya PTR record yang 
valid.


$ host mail.goodguys.co.id
mail.goodguys.co.id has address 203.160.59.123

$ host 203.160.59.123
123.59.160.203.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 123-59.hanastarnet.

Hubungi ISP Anda (hanastar.net.id) agar membuatkan PTR record untuk IP
203.160.59.123 pointing ke mail.goodguys.co.id.

Penjelasan lebih jauh mengenai perlunya PTR record bisa dibaca disini

http://www.mail-archive.com/mdaemon-l@dutaint.com/msg20501.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/mdaemon-l@dutaint.com/msg20502.html


--
syafril
---
Syafril Hermansyah
Running MDaemon 13.5 Beta RC1, SP 4.1.5


If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
   -- Anatole France


--
--[MDaemon-L]
Milis ini untuk Diskusi antar pengguna MD

[MDaemon-L] Email Tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On 05/11/2013 10:14 AM, WISNU wrote:

---
Mohon tidak membajak topik orang lain.
Selalu gunakan menu "compose new message" saat posting topik baru.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2406757

http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#threading

When starting a new thread don't just reply to a message sent by someone
else and clear the subject line. Not all e-mail and news clients behave
like yours and will thread messages correctly based on the
"Message-ID:", "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" headers embedded in the
messages. Only programs which don't comply with Internet standards sort
messages by subject and call that "threading". When you simply change
the subject of a message, all of the threading information remains
intact and your new "thread" simply continues at the end of the old one.
This is called thread hijacking.

By doing this, you're shooting yourself in the foot twice over. First of
all, people following a thread don't want to see unrelated messages
cropping up in the middle of it. The most complacent will just delete
your message without reading it, others will killfile you, some having
complained to you asking you to learn how to post. Secondly, those who
aren't interested in the hijacked thread and who have set their programs
to ignore it won't even see your message.

If you want to start a new thread then use your mailer's/newsreader's
"New Message" function. This will start a fresh thread of your own
without any traces of previous threads.
---

>> This is the mail system at host mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id.
>> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
>> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
>> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
>>   The mail system
>> : Host or domain name not found. Name service error
>> for
>>name=goodguys.co.id type=A: Host found but no data record of requested
>> type

Kok aneh errornya bilang "goodguys.co.id host not found" tetapi errornya
berasal dari mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id.
Apakah server Anda relay melalui server mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id dan
saat meneruskan mail server itu menggunakan identitas goodguys.co.id?

Server mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id salahnya cuma satu, mengaktifkan banyak
PTR record.

$ host mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id
mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id has address 114.30.80.38

$ host 114.30.80.38 8.8.8.8
Using domain server:
Name: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53
Aliases:

38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer smtp.bmp.net.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.bmp.net.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.samkyung.co.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer webmail.starfashion.co.id.
38.80.30.114.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pop.bmp.net.id.

Mestinya PTR record itu cuma pakai single, kalau banyak seperti itu akan
besar probabilitasnya terjadi masalah karena multi PTR record itu mirip
dengan A record (round robin), hasil resolvenya bergantian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_DNS_lookup

---
Multiple pointer records

While most rDNS entries only have one PTR record, DNS does not restrict
the number. However, having multiple PTR records for the same IP address
is generally not recommended, unless there is a specific need. For
example, if a web server supports many virtual hosts, there may be one
PTR record for each host and some versions of name server software will
allocate this automatically. Multiple PTR records can cause problems,
however, including triggering bugs in programs that only expect single
PTR records [1] and, in the case of a large web server, having hundreds
of PTR records can cause the DNS packets to be much larger than normal.
---

Demikian pula dengan server Anda sendiri, tidak punya PTR record yang valid.

$ host mail.goodguys.co.id
mail.goodguys.co.id has address 203.160.59.123

$ host 203.160.59.123
123.59.160.203.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 123-59.hanastarnet.

Hubungi ISP Anda (hanastar.net.id) agar membuatkan PTR record untuk IP
203.160.59.123 pointing ke mail.goodguys.co.id.

Penjelasan lebih jauh mengenai perlunya PTR record bisa dibaca disini

http://www.mail-archive.com/mdaemon-l@dutaint.com/msg20501.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/mdaemon-l@dutaint.com/msg20502.html


-- 
syafril
---
Syafril Hermansyah
Running MDaemon 13.5 Beta RC1, SP 4.1.5


If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-- Anatole France


-- 
--[MDaemon-L]
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[MDaemon-L] Email Tertolak

[WISNU]

Bapak Syafril Yth

Mohon Pencerahan untuk pesan error sebagai berikut:

From: "Mail Delivery System" 

Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:11 PM

To: 

Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender




This is the mail system at host mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id.







I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not



be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.







For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.







If you do so, please include this problem report. You can



delete your own text from the attached returned message.







  The mail system







: Host or domain name not found. Name service error



for



   name=goodguys.co.id type=A: Host found but no data record of requested



type













Return-Path: 



Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])



by mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EE9C481;



Fri, 10 May 2013 17:11:29 +0700 (WIT)



X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id



Received: from mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id ([127.0.0.1])



by localhost (mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port



10024)



with LMTP id QmlReA38nt_v; Fri, 10 May 2013 17:11:24 +0700 (WIT)



Received: from at8 (unknown [114.30.80.219])



by mailgate.sltg.bmp.net.id (Postfix) with SMTP id BD22FC463;



Fri, 10 May 2013 17:11:24 +0700 (WIT)



Message-ID: <6E2E52C8515A4666B6DF1F7665F7368F@at8>



From: "Heri Golden" 



To: "Pak Joko" 



Cc: "umi ggs" ,







Subject:  Job Description Suheri & Dani



Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 17:15:11 +0700



MIME-Version: 1.0



Content-Type: multipart/mixed;



boundary="=_NextPart_000_0044_01CE4DA1.EE068080"



X-Priority: 3



X-MSMail-Priority: Normal



Importance: Normal



X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416



X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416



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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:52:18 +0700
"Iwan Irawan Jaya Putra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bila kita mengirim email ke beberapa user secara bersama-sama Kenapa
> email selalu tertolak (undeliverable) bila ada salah satu email addres
> mailbox local yang bermasalah misalnya mailbox full quota atau email
> addresnya salah, seharusnya hanya user yg bermasalah saja yg tidak
> menerimanya, tetapi kok semuanya tidak terima. Ini dulu sudah pernah
> saya tanyakan dengan pak Syafril dan pak Syafril menyarankan agar
> mengupgrade ke versi 6.8.5 dan kini saya sudah mengupgrade ke versi
> tsb, tapi masalahnya masih saja, apa ada setting yang terlewatkan dim
> mdaemon servernya ? tolong saya diberi pencerahan pak.

Ok, ini yg perlu Anda lakukan di MDaemon 6.8.5, di Trusted Domain
(Security | Trusted Host) masukkan domain Anda sendiri.


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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:27:29 +0700
Syafril Hermansyah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >  Apakah maksud anda jika ingin  semua email terkirim meskipun ada
> >  user
> > unknown (misalnya salah ketik)  maka harus tunggu MD versi 7?
> 
> MSA memang sudah ada dalam wishlist, akan tetapi kelihatannya
> tidak/belum diimplementasikan dalam waktu dekat (target datenya belum
> ada), dpl blm diimplementasikan di mdaemon 7.0.

Maaf saya koreksi, saya sudah test di MDaemon 7.0 menggunakan Outlook
Express 6.x , ternyata jika Sender berasal dari local user dan
authenticate (SMTPAuth) maka akan delay bounce, artinya MDaemon akan
accept dulu semuanya baru nanti mengirimkan bounce message ke sender
mengenai mail mana saja yg tidak bisa didelivery krn user unknown.

BTW. Feeling saya ini bukan feature dari MDaemon 7.x, krn saya tidak
melihatnya di release note (bisa jadi saya terlewat membacanya atau
Arvel terlewat menuliskannya); saya akan check ulang untuk
memastikannya.

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[William IT]

> > > Setup | Miscl. Options | Miscl., dan ini bukan masalah unknown mail
> > > melainkan masalah mailbox quota.
> > Maaf Pak Syafril, saya kurang mengerti.
> 
> Setup diatas hanya akan membuat tidak akan terjadi bounce yg disebabkan
> oleh mailbox full.
> 
> >  Apakah maksud anda jika ingin  semua email terkirim meskipun ada user
> > unknown (misalnya salah ketik)  maka harus tunggu MD versi 7?
> 
> MSA memang sudah ada dalam wishlist, akan tetapi kelihatannya
> tidak/belum diimplementasikan dalam waktu dekat (target datenya belum
> ada), dpl blm diimplementasikan di mdaemon 7.0.
> 
Thanks, I understood now.

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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:12:04 +0800
"William IT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Setup | Miscl. Options | Miscl., dan ini bukan masalah unknown mail
> > melainkan masalah mailbox quota.
> Maaf Pak Syafril, saya kurang mengerti.

Setup diatas hanya akan membuat tidak akan terjadi bounce yg disebabkan
oleh mailbox full.

>  Apakah maksud anda jika ingin  semua email terkirim meskipun ada user
> unknown (misalnya salah ketik)  maka harus tunggu MD versi 7?

MSA memang sudah ada dalam wishlist, akan tetapi kelihatannya
tidak/belum diimplementasikan dalam waktu dekat (target datenya belum
ada), dpl blm diimplementasikan di mdaemon 7.0.

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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[William IT]

> > pak syaril, untuk set "unknown email account can accept  but not
> > sending mail" di bagian mana yang di set?
>
> Setup | Miscl. Options | Miscl., dan ini bukan masalah unknown mail
> melainkan masalah mailbox quota.
Maaf Pak Syafril, saya kurang mengerti. Apakah maksud anda jika ingin semua
email terkirim meskipun ada user unknown (misalnya salah ketik) maka harus
tunggu MD versi 7?


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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[Syafril Hermansyah]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:03:03 +0800
"William IT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> pak syaril, untuk set "unknown email account can accept  but not
> sending mail" di bagian mana yang di set?

Setup | Miscl. Options | Miscl., dan ini bukan masalah unknown mail
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[mdaemon-l] Email Tertolak

[William IT]

> > Bila kita mengirim email ke beberapa user secara bersama-sama Kenapa
> > email selalu tertolak (undeliverable) bila ada salah satu email addres
> > mailbox local yang bermasalah misalnya mailbox full quota atau email
> > addresnya salah, seharusnya hanya user yg bermasalah saja yg tidak
> > menerimanya, tetapi kok semuanya tidak terima. Ini dulu sudah pernah
> > saya tanyakan dengan pak Syafril dan pak Syafril menyarankan agar
> > mengupgrade ke versi 6.8.5 dan kini saya sudah mengupgrade ke versi
> > tsb, tapi masalahnya masih saja, apa ada setting yang terlewatkan dim
> > mdaemon servernya ? tolong saya diberi pencerahan pak.
>
> Hmmm...mungkin lbh baik saya ulangi penjelasan saya soal yg satu ini
> (mail to multiple address).
> Jika client (client disini bisa berupa MUA/Email client atau MTA/Mail
> Server) kirim mail ke multiple address maka maka Mail Server
> recipient/destination akan
> - meresponse "250 OK" utk setiap mail address yg di accept.
> - meresponse "4xx atau 5xx " untuk setiap mail address yg ditolak.
>
> Ketentuan dari RFC-2821, dalam kasus delivery to multiple recipient spt
> itu, asal minimal ada 1 (satu) saja yg accepted maka Client/Sender wajib
> untuk memproses semua mail yg ditujukan ke accepted recipient, dg
> perkataan lain saat sender menerima response "4xx atau 5xx error..." dia
> akan meneruskan proses dg kirim DATA dan mengakhiri session connection
> s/d QUIT command.
>
> Dalam kasus yg Anda sebutkan diatas, semua recipient tidak menerima mail
> sekalipun tidak bermasalah adalah akibat sender meng-closed connection
> saat menerima response "550 user unknown" atau "450 mailbox full".
>
> Sekarang lihat kasus ini :
> 1.user/kita kirim mail dg multiple recipient dimana semua
>   recipient/destination adalah outside domain (non local domain).
> 2. user/kita kirim mail dg multiple recipient dimana sebagian
>   diantaranya adalah local user (local domain), ini adalah kasus yg Anda
>   sebutkan diatas.
>
> dalam kasus nomor 1 diatas, MDaemon kita adalah MTASender/Client,
> sementara dalam kasus nomor 2 MDaemon adalah Mail Server
> recipient/destination.
>
> Untuk kasus nomor 1, jika satu atau lebih recipient bermasalah (out of
> quota, unknown user etc), maka MDaemon 6.8.5 akan mengikuti ketentuan
> RFC, shg destination address yg tidak bermasalah akan terima mail dg
> baik, sementara yg bermasalah tidak akan menerima mail.
>
> Untuk kasus nomor 2, jika client (dhi email client) tidak bisa/mau
> mengikuti ketentuan rfc-2821 (dia stop process, atau closed connection
> saat menerima 4xx/5xx error) maka yg tidak betul adalah email client yg
> digunakan.
>
> Mungkin Anda menginginkan agar mail dg multiple address itu di accept
> saja dulu semua, dan nantinya MDaemon meresponse dg menginformasikan
> mail address mana saja tidak menerima mail ?
> Sebenarnya hal ini sudah dilakukan oleh MDaemon, y.i. dalam kasus nomor
> 1 diatas.
> Untuk kasus nomor 2, mestinya yg melakukan adalah email client yg Anda
> gunakan. Dalam beberapa kasus, kita bisa menset MDaemon untuk membantu
> mengatasi penggunaan email client yg kurang rfc-friendly misalkan saja
> dg menset "over quota account can accept mail but not sending mail", dg
> demikian Mdaemon akan selalu accepted mail utk account tsb sekalipun
> quotanya sudah penuh.
pak syaril, untuk set "unknown email account can accept  but not sending
mail" di bagian mana yang di set?
sehingga email untuk user yg valid bisa diterima meskipun ada yg unknown
account/email.

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[speed]

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:44:28PM +0700, Iwan Irawan Jaya Putra wrote:
> Bila kita mengirim email ke beberapa user secara bersama-sama Kenapa
> email selalu tertolak (undeliverable) bila ada salah satu email addres
> mailbox local yang bermasalah misalnya mailbox full quota atau email
> addresnya salah, seharusnya hanya user yg bermasalah saja yg tidak
> menerimanya, tetapi kok semuanya tidak terima.

outlook? silakan tanya ke support microsoft, atau
barangkali ada kelompok pengguna outlook anda bisa
curah pendapat di situ :-)

workaround di sisi MTA, bisa diset:
- mail dari internet, terapkan restriksi biasa
- mail dari intranet, terapkan delayed bounce
  (message diterima, baru dibounce).
- implementasi 2 diatas sekaligus, yaitu dengan
  menerapkan MSA.

kurang tahu yang mana yang bisa dilakukan oleh mdaemon.

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[Syafril Hermansyah]

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:52:18 +0700
"Iwan Irawan Jaya Putra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bila kita mengirim email ke beberapa user secara bersama-sama Kenapa
> email selalu tertolak (undeliverable) bila ada salah satu email addres
> mailbox local yang bermasalah misalnya mailbox full quota atau email
> addresnya salah, seharusnya hanya user yg bermasalah saja yg tidak
> menerimanya, tetapi kok semuanya tidak terima. Ini dulu sudah pernah
> saya tanyakan dengan pak Syafril dan pak Syafril menyarankan agar
> mengupgrade ke versi 6.8.5 dan kini saya sudah mengupgrade ke versi
> tsb, tapi masalahnya masih saja, apa ada setting yang terlewatkan dim
> mdaemon servernya ? tolong saya diberi pencerahan pak.

Hmmm...mungkin lbh baik saya ulangi penjelasan saya soal yg satu ini
(mail to multiple address).
Jika client (client disini bisa berupa MUA/Email client atau MTA/Mail
Server) kirim mail ke multiple address maka maka Mail Server
recipient/destination akan 
- meresponse "250 OK" utk setiap mail address yg di accept.
- meresponse "4xx atau 5xx " untuk setiap mail address yg ditolak.

Ketentuan dari RFC-2821, dalam kasus delivery to multiple recipient spt
itu, asal minimal ada 1 (satu) saja yg accepted maka Client/Sender wajib
untuk memproses semua mail yg ditujukan ke accepted recipient, dg
perkataan lain saat sender menerima response "4xx atau 5xx error..." dia
akan meneruskan proses dg kirim DATA dan mengakhiri session connection
s/d QUIT command. 

Dalam kasus yg Anda sebutkan diatas, semua recipient tidak menerima mail
sekalipun tidak bermasalah adalah akibat sender meng-closed connection
saat menerima response "550 user unknown" atau "450 mailbox full".

Sekarang lihat kasus ini :
1.user/kita kirim mail dg multiple recipient dimana semua   
  recipient/destination adalah outside domain (non local domain).
2. user/kita kirim mail dg multiple recipient dimana sebagian   
  diantaranya adalah local user (local domain), ini adalah kasus yg Anda
  sebutkan diatas.

dalam kasus nomor 1 diatas, MDaemon kita adalah MTASender/Client,
sementara dalam kasus nomor 2 MDaemon adalah Mail Server
recipient/destination.

Untuk kasus nomor 1, jika satu atau lebih recipient bermasalah (out of
quota, unknown user etc), maka MDaemon 6.8.5 akan mengikuti ketentuan
RFC, shg destination address yg tidak bermasalah akan terima mail dg
baik, sementara yg bermasalah tidak akan menerima mail.

Untuk kasus nomor 2, jika client (dhi email client) tidak bisa/mau
mengikuti ketentuan rfc-2821 (dia stop process, atau closed connection
saat menerima 4xx/5xx error) maka yg tidak betul adalah email client yg
digunakan.

Mungkin Anda menginginkan agar mail dg multiple address itu di accept
saja dulu semua, dan nantinya MDaemon meresponse dg menginformasikan
mail address mana saja tidak menerima mail ?
Sebenarnya hal ini sudah dilakukan oleh MDaemon, y.i. dalam kasus nomor
1 diatas.
Untuk kasus nomor 2, mestinya yg melakukan adalah email client yg Anda
gunakan. Dalam beberapa kasus, kita bisa menset MDaemon untuk membantu
mengatasi penggunaan email client yg kurang rfc-friendly misalkan saja
dg menset "over quota account can accept mail but not sending mail", dg
demikian Mdaemon akan selalu accepted mail utk account tsb sekalipun
quotanya sudah penuh.


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[Iwan Irawan Jaya Putra]

Pak Syafril dan rekan2 lainnya,
Bila kita mengirim email ke beberapa user secara bersama-sama Kenapa
email selalu tertolak (undeliverable) bila ada salah satu email addres
mailbox local yang bermasalah misalnya mailbox full quota atau email
addresnya salah, seharusnya hanya user yg bermasalah saja yg tidak
menerimanya, tetapi kok semuanya tidak terima. Ini dulu sudah pernah
saya tanyakan dengan pak Syafril dan pak Syafril menyarankan agar
mengupgrade ke versi 6.8.5 dan kini saya sudah mengupgrade ke versi tsb,
tapi masalahnya masih saja, apa ada setting yang terlewatkan dim mdaemon
servernya ? tolong saya diberi pencerahan pak.

Makasih sebelumnya

Salam,
Iwan



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[Iwan Irawan Jaya Putra]

Pak Syafril,
Bila kita mengirim email ke beberapa user secara bersama-sama Kenapa
email selalu tertolak (undeliverable) bila ada salah satu email addres
mailbox local yang bermasalah misalnya mailbox full quota atau email
addresnya salah, seharusnya hanya user yg bermasalah saja yg tidak
menerimanya, tetapi kok semuanya tidak terima. Ini dulu sudah pernah
saya tanyakan dengan pak Syafril dan pak Syafril menyarankan agar
mengupgrade ke versi 6.8.5 dan kini saya sudah mengupgrade ke versi tsb,
tapi masalahnya masih saja, apa ada setting yang terlewatkan dim mdaemon
servernya ? tolong saya diberi pencerahan pak.

Makasih sebelumnya

Salam,
Iwan


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