Re: Redesign of start screen
Hi. I don't think one would need a gtk assistant it's "just" a matter of replacing welcom screen with You can compare... Paste text... don't show again got it there are only 2 interactive widgets: the "got it" button (that does nothing but go to the main) the checkbox that stores a property it's far easier that current welcome screen and its 14 interactive widgets File Comparison Directory comparison File Comparison 3 ways 3 ways version control Blank comparison Compare Ok I cheat a bit, my mockup misses the 3ways comparison button (that I'd move to main screen) But that is still 3 vs 14 :) Le mer. 15 avr. 2020 à 04:15, Kai a écrit : > On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 22:26, Vincent P > wrote: > >> (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this >>> list doesn't support them.) >>> >> >> > My bad, sorry. I didn't see the filtered email in time. >> >> I tried to upload a image too but the file limit is really really low >> (40k including text) >> >> So I uploaded my proposition here >> https://ibb.co/mbcBd2S >> >> >> This is a total rewrite of my initial proposal >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789174 >> which was already 2,5 years old. >> >> In fact my proposal for a start page is ... no start page at all :) >> Just show the following screen whan user launch the app for the first >> time. >> >> I think >> It's more informative for user >> It will need less code >> > > Just following up here to say that I agree that not having a New > Comparison screen at all may be the best option, although it is a fair bit > of work. There's more details on the Gitlab issue ( > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/meld/-/issues/73). > > How we deal with introducing users to such a workflow is a challenge. A > GtkAssistant-style guide like you suggest is definitely an option. Ideally > I think we could provide guidance in a more subtle, GNOME-y style, but I'm > definitely concerned that things like the three pane expansion are going to > be easily missed. > cheers, > Kai > ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
Re: Redesign of start screen
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 22:26, Vincent P wrote: > (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this >> list doesn't support them.) >> > > > My bad, sorry. I didn't see the filtered email in time. > > I tried to upload a image too but the file limit is really really low (40k > including text) > > So I uploaded my proposition here > https://ibb.co/mbcBd2S > > > This is a total rewrite of my initial proposal > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789174 > which was already 2,5 years old. > > In fact my proposal for a start page is ... no start page at all :) > Just show the following screen whan user launch the app for the first > time. > > I think > It's more informative for user > It will need less code > Just following up here to say that I agree that not having a New Comparison screen at all may be the best option, although it is a fair bit of work. There's more details on the Gitlab issue ( https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/meld/-/issues/73). How we deal with introducing users to such a workflow is a challenge. A GtkAssistant-style guide like you suggest is definitely an option. Ideally I think we could provide guidance in a more subtle, GNOME-y style, but I'm definitely concerned that things like the three pane expansion are going to be easily missed. cheers, Kai ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
Re: Redesign of start screen
> > (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this > list doesn't support them.) > > My bad, sorry. I didn't see the filtered email in time. I tried to upload a image too but the file limit is really really low (40k including text) So I uploaded my proposition here https://ibb.co/mbcBd2S This is a total rewrite of my initial proposal https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789174 which was already 2,5 years old. In fact my proposal for a start page is ... no start page at all :) Just show the following screen whan user launch the app for the first time. I think It's more informative for user It will need less code PS: Did I break the list ? I don't know if I should answer all in Gmail (or just the list) Le sam. 4 avr. 2020 à 02:09, Kai via meld-list a écrit : > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 16:27, Heikki Ketoharju > wrote: > >> Hello again! >> >> This thing started to interest me, and although I'm not a designer, I >> still decided to make a small mockup to play with the idea, what the start >> screen should look like. >> >> Linked here is a SVG-file of my first thoughts. Also, I'll put a link to >> a PNG, because for me, the SVG shows a little bit wrong in image viewer. >> >> PNG: >> https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg.png >> SVG: >> https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg >> >> Should I make a Gitlab issue about this, or is there one already? >> > > Just replying to say that yes, keeping this on the Gitlab issue you've > found is probably the best option. I do want to emphasise that while I > agree that the current design is a problem, replacing it is also not > easy... but I'll follow up on gitlab with the issues that the current > design tried to address, and the constraints we have from the toolkit. > > (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this >> list doesn't support them.) >> > > My bad, sorry. I didn't see the filtered email in time. > > cheers, > Kai > ___ > meld-list mailing list > meld-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list > ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
Re: Redesign of start screen
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 16:27, Heikki Ketoharju wrote: > Hello again! > > This thing started to interest me, and although I'm not a designer, I > still decided to make a small mockup to play with the idea, what the start > screen should look like. > > Linked here is a SVG-file of my first thoughts. Also, I'll put a link to a > PNG, because for me, the SVG shows a little bit wrong in image viewer. > > PNG: > https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg.png > SVG: > https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg > > Should I make a Gitlab issue about this, or is there one already? > Just replying to say that yes, keeping this on the Gitlab issue you've found is probably the best option. I do want to emphasise that while I agree that the current design is a problem, replacing it is also not easy... but I'll follow up on gitlab with the issues that the current design tried to address, and the constraints we have from the toolkit. (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this > list doesn't support them.) > My bad, sorry. I didn't see the filtered email in time. cheers, Kai ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
Re: Redesign of start screen
Thanks for the pointer! I didn't find that issue by search, but I thought there would maybe already be a issue about this. I'll continue the discussion there. Heikki ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
Re: Redesign of start screen
I've just copied your mockup to gitlab to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/meld/-/issues/73#note_757776 > I already mockuped a start page. i think it was on launchpad but I can't find > it anymore. > > I don't think your two vs three way checkbox is usefull. Just check if the > third field is empty should be enough, no ? > > Le jeu. 2 avr. 2020 à 08:27, Heikki Ketoharju a > écrit : > >> Hello again! >> >> This thing started to >> interest me, and although I'm not a designer, I still decided to make a >> small mockup to play with the idea, what the start screen should look >> like. >> >> Linked here is a SVG-file of my first thoughts. Also, I'll put a link to a >> PNG, because for me, the SVG shows a >> little bit wrong in image viewer. >> >> PNG: >> >> https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg.png >> SVG: >> https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg >> >> Should I make a Gitlab issue about >> this, or is there one already? >> >> (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this >> list doesn't support them.) >> >> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Heikki Ketoharju >> wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone! >>> >>> The new ui looks great! I just checked it out. Much cleaner and easier in >>> my opinion. >>> >>> Regarding to this: is there any plans to redesign a start screen also? In >>> my opinion it looks a little bit off-place in the center of new ui, and >>> maybe a little bit hard to grasp. >>> >>> I'm interested about helping in this, if no one else is working on it. >>> >>> kind regards >>> Heikki Ketoharju >> >> ___ >> >> meld-list mailing list >> >> meld-list@gnome.org >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
Re: Redesign of start screen
There most similar existing issue is https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/meld/-/issues/73 > Hello again! > > This thing started to > interest me, and although I'm not a designer, I still decided to make a > small mockup to play with the idea, what the start screen should look > like. > > Linked here is a SVG-file of my first thoughts. Also, I'll put a link to a > PNG, because for me, the SVG shows a > little bit wrong in image viewer. > > PNG: > > https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg.png > SVG: > https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg > > Should I make a Gitlab issue about > this, or is there one already? > > (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this list > doesn't support them.) > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Heikki Ketoharju > wrote: > >> Hello everyone! >> >> The new ui looks great! I just checked it out. Much cleaner and easier in my >> opinion. >> >> Regarding to this: is there any plans to redesign a start screen also? In my >> opinion it looks a little bit off-place in the center of new ui, and maybe a >> little bit hard to grasp. >> >> I'm interested about helping in this, if no one else is working on it. >> >> kind regards >> Heikki Ketoharju ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
Re: Redesign of start screen
I already mockuped a start page. i think it was on launchpad but I can't find it anymore. I don't think your two vs three way checkbox is usefull. Just check if the third field is empty should be enough, no ? Le jeu. 2 avr. 2020 à 08:27, Heikki Ketoharju a écrit : > Hello again! > > This thing started to interest me, and although I'm not a designer, I > still decided to make a small mockup to play with the idea, what the start > screen should look like. > > Linked here is a SVG-file of my first thoughts. Also, I'll put a link to a > PNG, because for me, the SVG shows a little bit wrong in image viewer. > > PNG: > https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg.png > SVG: > https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg > > Should I make a Gitlab issue about this, or is there one already? > > (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this > list doesn't support them.) > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Heikki Ketoharju > wrote: > >> Hello everyone! >> >> The new ui looks great! I just checked it out. Much cleaner and easier in >> my opinion. >> >> Regarding to this: is there any plans to redesign a start screen also? In >> my opinion it looks a little bit off-place in the center of new ui, and >> maybe a little bit hard to grasp. >> >> I'm interested about helping in this, if no one else is working on it. >> >> kind regards >> Heikki Ketoharju >> > ___ > meld-list mailing list > meld-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list > ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
Re: Redesign of start screen
Hello again! This thing started to interest me, and although I'm not a designer, I still decided to make a small mockup to play with the idea, what the start screen should look like. Linked here is a SVG-file of my first thoughts. Also, I'll put a link to a PNG, because for me, the SVG shows a little bit wrong in image viewer. PNG: https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg.png SVG: https://heikkiket.kapsi.fi/files/meld%20start.svg Should I make a Gitlab issue about this, or is there one already? (I tried to put attachments to this message at first, but obviously this list doesn't support them.) On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Heikki Ketoharju wrote: > Hello everyone! > > The new ui looks great! I just checked it out. Much cleaner and easier in > my opinion. > > Regarding to this: is there any plans to redesign a start screen also? In > my opinion it looks a little bit off-place in the center of new ui, and > maybe a little bit hard to grasp. > > I'm interested about helping in this, if no one else is working on it. > > kind regards > Heikki Ketoharju > ___ meld-list mailing list meld-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/meld-list
