Re: [MBZ] need 2.5 Turbo engine

[Mitch Haley]

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> Good luck finding one, they are hard to come by.  Im needing one myself.
> 

I've got an '87 but I still want to stick it in the 2.3-16v. 22mpg is getting 
old,
and it takes quite a bit of restraint to get that mileage, that car just wants 
to GO.

Re: [MBZ] need 2.5 Turbo engine

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Good luck finding one, they are hard to come by.  Im needing one myself.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello All,

A friend of mine had an unfortunate run-in with a log a few weeks ago. He ran 
over a log doing 80MPH in his '93 300D. Engine was totally trashed but the rest 
of the car is still in reasonable shape. Some frontend damage but all 
repairable. The insurance company totalled the vehicle and he bought it back 
cheap. He is considering taking the settlement and fixing the car if he can 
find a used engine. The car had been set up as a veggie burner and he has lots 
of time and money invested in her. Anyone have any leads on an engine? Kaleb 
perhaps? He has an offer from a salvage yard for one but would like some more 
options. All suggestions or leads would be appreciated.

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'82 300TD   '83  300CD
'90 300D '01 E320 Wagon

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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] need 2.5 Turbo engine

[rw123]

Hello All,

A friend of mine had an unfortunate run-in with a log a few weeks ago. He ran 
over a log doing 80MPH in his '93 300D. Engine was totally trashed but the rest 
of the car is still in reasonable shape. Some frontend damage but all 
repairable. The insurance company totalled the vehicle and he bought it back 
cheap. He is considering taking the settlement and fixing the car if he can 
find a used engine. The car had been set up as a veggie burner and he has lots 
of time and money invested in her. Anyone have any leads on an engine? Kaleb 
perhaps? He has an offer from a salvage yard for one but would like some more 
options. All suggestions or leads would be appreciated.

--
Ralph Wasserbaech
'82 300TD   '83  300CD
'90 300D '01 E320 Wagon

Re: [MBZ] brand new 300E owner and have several probs

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

There could be a reason that nobody bid on it if it was priced too much 
in the first place.


Sounds like your tranny is about toast.  Those long times to go into 
gear do not sound good and usually indicate its worn out.  You can try 
changing the fluid and filter but i doubt it will help.  Also sounds 
like you might be in need of new injectors.  At around 160, the valve 
guides and seals will need to be replaced on that engine.  IT will use 
alot of oil it they have not been.  The fan noise under the dash is 
probably the aspirator motor for the inside air sensor.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anyone/Everyone
I got this '87 300E almost by default. I bid a very low amount and NO ONE bid 
against me. Imagine that.
Now that I have my very first Mercedes, it would be nice if someone could help 
me figure out WTF on several items.

1. It starts rough, but once it is started runs smooth. And if I don't give it 
some extra gas it will die. I have used some BK fuel injection/system cleaner 
but that didn't help it start smooth.
2. After it is started, I shift it into Reverse, takes about 3-4 seconds then 
it hits Hard, when I shift it into Drive from Reverse, it takes about 2 seconds 
and then it hits not so hard. [Also, Seems like it starts out in 2nd gear. If I 
step down all the way on the gas it downshifts - the tires chirp and we Really 
take off fast! Which is good by the way but seems strange it will downshift 
from a standing start.]
3. This one scares me a little. Starting from a stop I accelerate smartly, when it shifts from 1st to 2nd and I hear a sound like a old cold weather V belt slipping for an instant. Same screech when it shifts from 2nd to 3rd. Not all the time but once in awhile. I know the belts aren't slipping on this engine. 
4. There is a small sound under the passenger dash when I start it first thing in the morning [some other times as well]  like a small fan bushing is going. It stops after a little while. What's under the dash on that side that could make that sound?


Finally-
5. How the heck do I get the door panels off???

Any and all help is Greatly Appreciated!

My lady and I like this car, I'd like it to perform well.

Sam 


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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] brand new 300E owner and have several probs

[Chuck Landenberger]

Sam,

One thing at a time.

First- change all the fluids and filters (engine and trans).

Then change serpentine belt.

Then flush the brake fluid..  (It's probably black in your car   
Should be pale yellow!)


That's just a starter..  From here on Marshall and the rest of  
the experts can take over.


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

PS - deal w/ door panels later...

On Aug 13, 2006, at 4:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anyone/Everyone
I got this '87 300E almost by default. I bid a very low amount and  
NO ONE bid against me. Imagine that.
Now that I have my very first Mercedes, it would be nice if someone  
could help me figure out WTF on several items.


1. It starts rough, but once it is started runs smooth. And if I  
don't give it some extra gas it will die. I have used some BK fuel  
injection/system cleaner but that didn't help it start smooth.
2. After it is started, I shift it into Reverse, takes about 3-4  
seconds then it hits Hard, when I shift it into Drive from Reverse,  
it takes about 2 seconds and then it hits not so hard. [Also, Seems  
like it starts out in 2nd gear. If I step down all the way on the  
gas it downshifts - the tires chirp and we Really take off fast!  
Which is good by the way but seems strange it will downshift from a  
standing start.]
3. This one scares me a little. Starting from a stop I accelerate  
smartly, when it shifts from 1st to 2nd and I hear a sound like a  
old cold weather V belt slipping for an instant. Same screech when  
it shifts from 2nd to 3rd. Not all the time but once in awhile. I  
know the belts aren't slipping on this engine.
4. There is a small sound under the passenger dash when I start it  
first thing in the morning [some other times as well]  like a small  
fan bushing is going. It stops after a little while. What's under  
the dash on that side that could make that sound?


Finally-
5. How the heck do I get the door panels off???

Any and all help is Greatly Appreciated!

My lady and I like this car, I'd like it to perform well.

Sam

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[MBZ] brand new 300E owner and have several probs

[random_access]

Anyone/Everyone
I got this '87 300E almost by default. I bid a very low amount and NO ONE bid 
against me. Imagine that.
Now that I have my very first Mercedes, it would be nice if someone could help 
me figure out WTF on several items.

1. It starts rough, but once it is started runs smooth. And if I don't give it 
some extra gas it will die. I have used some BK fuel injection/system cleaner 
but that didn't help it start smooth.
2. After it is started, I shift it into Reverse, takes about 3-4 seconds then 
it hits Hard, when I shift it into Drive from Reverse, it takes about 2 seconds 
and then it hits not so hard. [Also, Seems like it starts out in 2nd gear. If I 
step down all the way on the gas it downshifts - the tires chirp and we Really 
take off fast! Which is good by the way but seems strange it will downshift 
from a standing start.]
3. This one scares me a little. Starting from a stop I accelerate smartly, when 
it shifts from 1st to 2nd and I hear a sound like a old cold weather V belt 
slipping for an instant. Same screech when it shifts from 2nd to 3rd. Not all 
the time but once in awhile. I know the belts aren't slipping on this engine. 
4. There is a small sound under the passenger dash when I start it first thing 
in the morning [some other times as well]  like a small fan bushing is going. 
It stops after a little while. What's under the dash on that side that could 
make that sound?

Finally-
5. How the heck do I get the door panels off???

Any and all help is Greatly Appreciated!

My lady and I like this car, I'd like it to perform well.

Sam 

[MBZ] tranny acting strange

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Put the 560 back on the road for a trial run the other day.  I drove it 
around town and had no problems.  Today wife decides to take it to tulsa 
and it starts doing wierd things.  She said it wouldnt kick into gear 
and was at about 4k rpm.  Car sat for 30-45 min till I got to where she 
was.  I checked the fluid and it was fine.  I drove it home, shifted 
fine at first but woulnt kick into 4th.  Put it in neutral then back to 
drive and it kicked into 4th.  Cruising down the highway all the sudden 
it downshifts on its own to 3rd. Would not go back to 4th.  Anytime I 
had to go up from 2nd to 3rd i had to put it in neutral then drive and 
it would go up to 3rd.  A few miles from home had to slow down then it 
never would go past 2nd.  Got home and tranny seemed very hot.  Couldnt 
hardly even touch the dipstick.  Got out my lazer thermometer and read 
the temp on the bottom of the pan at about 278 or so.  WAY too hot.  My 
first guess is the filter is plugged up.  Beyond that, the tranny is 
probably toast.  Thoughts?

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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D

[Donald Snook]

Larry T. wrote:

 

"Well, based on what others around '78 go for I believe I'd have a
hard 

time getting more than $2000 for it"  

 

Are you really selling it Larry?   If it is a 78, does that mean it is
not turbo?   Seems like it would be SLOW, SLOW, SLOW.   Might make a
great car for traveling. 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 129K  

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

One other thing, I would love to try and start this engine one the 
ground.  If I have a starter laying around I might see about it.  Only 
thing though is that the oil has been drained and it has that HUGE pan 
installed.  Looks like it would take ALOT of oil to fill it up just to 
see if it will fire.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Ya know Kaleb, you might be able to send the numbers off that plate to 
Mercedes Classic center to see if they know what it came from.
 
Harry

69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-

From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Banned List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mercedes Mailing List ; 
Dan Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:50:36 -0500
Subject: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it 
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but 
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as 
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I 
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm


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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Do they have an email address?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Ya know Kaleb, you might be able to send the numbers off that plate to 
Mercedes Classic center to see if they know what it came from.
 
Harry

69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-

From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Banned List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mercedes Mailing List ; 
Dan Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:50:36 -0500
Subject: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it 
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but 
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as 
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I 
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm


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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Will check it out.

Joe Knight wrote:


There's an almost horizontal flat surface just in front of the i/p
that's just big enough for the engine # to be stamped into it.

joe

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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Somebody said that tag on the back means its an original replacment MB 
motor(which would have the fixes?)  That true?


Marshall Booth wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it 
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but 
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as 
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I 
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm



I expect it's a 603.97 engine that's been dropped into a boat or some 
other non-standard application. The government was selling off a lot 
that came out of '90s diesel Gwagons.


Marshall


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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

That could be arranged.  What the heck are you planning though?

Zeitgeist wrote:


I'd be interested in purchasing that exhaust manifold and turbo mounting
hardware.  Let me know.

On 8/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in
it.  Hmm




Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (217k)
'84 300D (216k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Fire Sale

[Mitch Haley]

Chuck Landenberger wrote:
> 
> Hey Mitch...
> 
> Was exciting, but it's from '93...  I couldn't find anything but
> writeups about more recent DTM series/races...
> 

Yeah, that was a '93 season highlight film. I was surprised to see that
the Evo II wing was either obsolete or (more likely) outlawed by '93.
I was also surprised to see all the curb jumping and sparks flying, but then
I remembered that some F1 drivers (Aryton Senna) used to do the same with
much more fragile cars costing millions of dollars.

Here's a lap filmed last year with an ex-DTM car.  I love it
for the soundtrack.
http://videos.247drifting.com/video/737597e8-8869-40e8-8517-981300556061.htm

Re: [MBZ] Zerex G05

[Mitch Haley]

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> 
> Mitch,
> 
> So am I correct in assuming that since G-05 is good enough for my Mercedes,
> it also fulfills the requirements of my Saab?
> 
> Bear with my lack of knowledge on this, but all I know is that my Saab
> requires the "red stuff" - or - shoot - is it the orange stuff? All I know
> is that the green stuff isn't good enough. How new is new enough to use GM
> DexCool?

I just assumed the "red stuff" in question was dexcool. It does form a 
protective film on coolant passages, which G-05 won't replenish, but eventually
will replace. What I don't like is that it's reputed to turn to glop if you
let it run low with part coolant/part air in the system.
 
Does the owner's manual ask for dexcool, or give a spec # that you can find on
a dexcool bottle? 20 years ago, Saab just used green stuff, and I quit working
for the Saab indy (the last time) in 1988. Never saw inside a Saab newer than 
1985
or so. If it's a special Saab coolant I'd be inclined to keep using it. Toyota 
had
a very good long life coolant (red) at least as far back as '93, and I 
convinced a
friend to keep it in his '93 Corolla when he finally replaced the factory fill 
last year.
Mitch

Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D

[Mitch Haley]

Marshall Booth wrote:
> 
> just bodies)! And just try to get your insurance company to pay what you
> have invested in the car when your car is damaged!

That should be set up in advance, not argued after the loss. Here's a
couple of ideas:

1. Stated value coverage.

2. Gap coverage to repay the loan. 
I wonder if you could borrow the money from your spouse on an interest only 
loan,
so you always owe the purchase price.

Re: [MBZ] Fuse replacement, what a pain

[Zoltan Finks]

Yes - the sunroof fuse on the 240D is particularly irritating - not made for
normal sized fingers due to its position. It's quite a jam. Figure I'd
eventually find a method.

Brian


On 8/12/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Well, if you insist on using the right tool ---
If don't have, and don't want to go and get it, then dis-connect the
battery negative cable first.

On 8/12/06, Desert Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just did 32 fuse replacements in the SL and found a plastic tool at
> the parts store made for that purpose.
>
> Snap, crackle and pop if your pliers slip!


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Re: [MBZ] Zerex G05

[Zoltan Finks]

Mitch,

So am I correct in assuming that since G-05 is good enough for my Mercedes,
it also fulfills the requirements of my Saab?

Bear with my lack of knowledge on this, but all I know is that my Saab
requires the "red stuff" - or - shoot - is it the orange stuff? All I know
is that the green stuff isn't good enough. How new is new enough to use GM
DexCool?

Brian
83 240D
84 Saab 900

On 8/12/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Nobody seems to carry it - any tips?

If your Saab is new enough to use GM DexCool, you can stick with that,
or convert to MbzCool. (kind of like the R12/R134 conversion, I would
not be switching back and forth, pick one and stick with it).

I was at A-Zone yesterday, and they did not, once again, have shelf
space for G-05. They dropped it a couple of years ago, picked it
back up last winter, and it looks like they dropped it again. The store
brand was 8.99 a gallon straight, or 7.99 for premix. I'm glad I looked
in the store before pouring my last gallon of G-05 into the Ford.
I'll be looking around for it locally, perhaps I should have sourced
a couple gallons from Rusty last month when I bought some heavy suspension
stuff. I hate to have stuff UPS'd to me that's only worth a dollar a
pound.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Zerex G05

[Zoltan Finks]

Great - I'll call the local napa tomorrow.

Brian

On 8/12/06, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


NAPA very regularly has Xerex G-05

Chris

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chuck Landenberger wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> If my memory is working correctly, I think that Marshall Booth has
> mentioned that Peak Antifreeze has the proper Ph and can be used in
> our cars...

The Peak Global in the gold bottle? I think WallyMart has that.

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Re: [MBZ] Fire Sale

[Chuck Landenberger]

Hey Mitch...

Was exciting, but it's from '93...  I couldn't find anything but  
writeups about more recent DTM series/races...


And I won't bang fenders at Spring Mountain!..

Take care,

Chuck

On Aug 12, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Chuck Landenberger wrote:

Here's a place to download video of a friend driving his SLK55 at
Spring Mountain

http://hosted.filefront.com/slk55ontrack



I'll D/L that when I'm done with this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8820602063752404600&q=DTM

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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D

[Marshall Booth]

OK Don wrote:

Yes - but they're SO MUCH less expensive than a new car - if you have
good enough of a chassis to use, and plan to drive out your investment
instead of selling it -



None of my recent cars have worn out. They HAVE rusted away though (not 
just bodies)! And just try to get your insurance company to pay what you 
have invested in the car when your car is damaged!


Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[mykd1]

  Ya know Kaleb, you might be able to send the numbers off that plate to 
Mercedes Classic center to see if they know what it came from.
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Banned List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mercedes Mailing List 
; Dan Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:50:36 -0500
Subject: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it 
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but 
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as 
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I 
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm
-- 
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  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
  76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] Fuse replacement, what a pain

[OK Don]

Well, if you insist on using the right tool ---
If don't have, and don't want to go and get it, then dis-connect the
battery negative cable first.

On 8/12/06, Desert Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just did 32 fuse replacements in the SL and found a plastic tool at
the parts store made for that purpose.

Snap, crackle and pop if your pliers slip!



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exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D

[OK Don]

Yes - but they're SO MUCH less expensive than a new car - if you have
good enough of a chassis to use, and plan to drive out your investment
instead of selling it -



Major factory new or rebuilt parts are seldom justified for a 20+ year
old car - they just cost SO MUCH more than the car will ever be worth.

Marshall
--
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   "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)



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Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] Fuse replacement, what a pain

[Desert Rat]

Just did 32 fuse replacements in the SL and found a plastic tool at
the parts store made for that purpose.

Snap, crackle and pop if your pliers slip!

On 8/12/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Needle nosed pliers? I've used them a few times when it was hard to
get my fingers around the fuse.

On 8/12/06, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After spending way too much time replacing 17 fuses, I thought I would ask.
>
> Anybody have a good technique or tool that would make it easy for us ham 
fisted folks?
>
> Harry Watkins


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Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine...

[Joe Knight]

There's an almost horizontal flat surface just in front of the i/p
that's just big enough for the engine # to be stamped into it.

joe

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Marshall Booth]

Luther Gulseth wrote:

sweet.

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:50:36 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm





ALL 603.97 engines that weren't rebuilt had the rod problems!

Marshall

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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Marshall Booth]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it 
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but 
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as 
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I 
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm


I expect it's a 603.97 engine that's been dropped into a boat or some 
other non-standard application. The government was selling off a lot 
that came out of '90s diesel Gwagons.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)

Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D

[Marshall Booth]

archer wrote:

archer wrote:

If an MB factory rebuilt engine and an MB factory rebuilt 5 speed manual
transmission were put in a sound 190D body, how many miles of trouble 
free
service from the engine-transmission could a person count on getting? 
How

much would a car like that cost in ball park figures?
Thanks...Gerry

The engine won't wear out for half a million miles or more if
maintained. The transmissions can last that long too. Most end up
broken, NOT worn out! The chassis is usually the limiting factor - they
begin to rust away after 20+ years even if the car never sees snow.

Marshall


Thanks, Marshall.  That's good to know about the rust.  I'll check the 
chassis very thoroughly before buying one.  Do you know roughly what the 
factory rebuilt engines and manual transmissions are selling for nowadays?
Gerry 


I'd guess an engine would be ~$4000 and $1800 for a transmission, but 
I'm plucking those numbers out of thin air. There are GOOD used engines 
and a few 5 spds around too.


Major factory new or rebuilt parts are seldom justified for a 20+ year 
old car - they just cost SO MUCH more than the car will ever be worth.


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 
190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)

Re: [MBZ] Zerex G05

[Christopher McCann]

NAPA very regularly has Xerex G-05
 
 Chris

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chuck Landenberger wrote:
> 
> Brian,
> 
> If my memory is working correctly, I think that Marshall Booth has
> mentioned that Peak Antifreeze has the proper Ph and can be used in
> our cars...

The Peak Global in the gold bottle? I think WallyMart has that.

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Has anyone had a maple tree drop its various droppings on their automobile
and had serious stains result?

There are rust-colored stains on my light blue paint. I've tried several
cleaners and such and the stains don't want to budge much. I'm wondering if
this is acutally rust somehow being caused by the droppings or if the color
is coincidental.

Would love to know how to get this stuff off my paint so I can say lesson
learned and place a cover over the thing from now forward.

Brian
83 240D
84 Saab 900

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Luther Gulseth]

sweet.

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:50:36 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm




--
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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (236 kmi)
'82 300CD (160 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Zeitgeist]

I'd be interested in purchasing that exhaust manifold and turbo mounting
hardware.  Let me know.

On 8/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in
it.  Hmm



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (217k)
'84 300D (216k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG

Re: [MBZ] Fire Sale

[Mitch Haley]

Chuck Landenberger wrote:
> Here's a place to download video of a friend driving his SLK55 at
> Spring Mountain
> 
> http://hosted.filefront.com/slk55ontrack


I'll D/L that when I'm done with this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8820602063752404600&q=DTM

Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Larry,
Is this 240D a manual or an automatic?
Dwight

Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co.


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Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 2:52 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D


you asked:<>

Hi Gerry,
Well, based on what others around '78 go for I believe I'd have a
hard 
time getting more than $2000 for it - unless someone with a wad of money
and 
limited knowledge came along ;-)  Actually, it's in very good condition:

great silver paint, like new tires, recent brakes, complete engine
rebuild 
approx 20k ago, replacement tranny last yearAC, leather interior (from a
85 
300D), new exhaust, etc.  That's the problem - it's worth more to me
than 
anyone else.   I'd love to find a 2.5 turbo diesel to get some added
power - 
I've fallen in love with our '91 300D Turbo and it'd be nice to find 
another.  The extra cylinder and turbo really makes a huge difference.
More 
than I would have guessed.

Anyway, the 240D is an excellent backup car - we're still sorting
the 
300D out and it' was nice to have a good driver when we needed to leave
it 
at a shop to have window tint installed, the AC blower replaced (the
temps 
were 95-100), etc.

It's pretty hard to convince people that a 30 year old Mercedes is 
better than a 5 year old Honda selling for 5X's the cost.  IMO, I'd take
the 
MB every time.
;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message - 
From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D


> Thanksfor the link, Larry.  What do you think you could get for your 
> 240D? Gerry
> --
> - Original Message -
> From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D
>
>
>> you wrote:<< but there doesn't seem to be any [190D's] available that
>> I've
>> been able to find.  My >>
>>
>> Hi Archer,
>> I found my 300D 2.5 on www.autotrader.com - so I did a search found 4
>> 190D
>> 2.5's and 3 190D 2.2's listed - varying miles and prices of course -
and
>> scattered all over the US.
>>
>> There's a 88 2.5 with 166K miles for $4k that I'd be interested in if

>> I were in the market.  Of course, if I could get a decent price for 
>> my 240D I'd might go for it.  ;-)
>>
>> HTH's
>>
>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
>> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
>> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
>> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
>> Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
>> .
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, Mitch.  The engine accessories, clutch, etc. you mentioned
>>> aren't
>>> a
>>> problem as long as the engine/transmission doesn't have serious
issues.
>>> If
>>> 190Ds with fairly good engine/transmissions were available, that
would 
>>> be
>>> an
>>> acceptable alternative, but there doesn't seem to be any available
that
>>> I've
>>> been able to find.  My main interest in a solid 190D is the 35-40
mpg
>>> fuel
>>> mileage.  I would then sell the like-new '83 240D which my wife
drove.
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt 190D
>>>
>>>
 archer wrote:
>
> If an MB factory rebuilt engine and an MB factory rebuilt 5 speed 
> manual transmission were put in a sound 190D body, how many miles 
> of trouble free
> service from the engine-transmission could a person count on
getting?
> How
> much would a car like that cost in ball park figures?

 I suspect that given the best modern synthetic lubes, you would 
 still
 be
 having
 problems with vacuum pump after 200k, syncro, IP, and timing chain
 issues
 within
 400k, and possibly head gasket issues in between. If I wanted it to
run
 perfectly
 forever I'd probably replace the injectors, delivery valves, and
vac
 pump
 at 200k,
 and replace all glow plugs when one failed.

 Clutch life is largely user dependent. My Plymouth Horizon rusted 
 out
 at
 232k with
 the original clutch in it, and I occasionally did things like tow a
 2600lb
 boat with
 it. Other drivers could have killed the clutch inside 80k without
 obviously 

Re: [MBZ] Fuse replacement, what a pain

[OK Don]

Needle nosed pliers? I've used them a few times when it was hard to
get my fingers around the fuse.

On 8/12/06, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

After spending way too much time replacing 17 fuses, I thought I would ask.

Anybody have a good technique or tool that would make it easy for us ham fisted 
folks?

Harry Watkins



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Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

[MBZ] Fuse replacement, what a pain

[Harry Watkins]

After spending way too much time replacing 17 fuses, I thought I would ask.

Anybody have a good technique or tool that would make it easy for us ham fisted 
folks?

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Dont think thats it, but it might be.

Craig McCluskey wrote:


On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:05:07 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Not sure, where is it located on these?

OK Don wrote:



Very interesting engine! What's the serial number?  603.???.??



How about the tag on the back passenger side, whose close-up didn't turn
out very good?


Craig

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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:05:07 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not sure, where is it located on these?
> 
> OK Don wrote:
> 
> > Very interesting engine! What's the serial number?  603.???.??

How about the tag on the back passenger side, whose close-up didn't turn
out very good?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no, it wasnt one of those, I forgot about those, should have kept an eye 
on that.


Mitch Haley wrote:


"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine. 



Is that one of the engines from the Alaskan GOA auction?
I believe those were in some kind of snow-cat, not a G.
Mitch

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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Not sure, where is it located on these?

OK Don wrote:


Very interesting engine! What's the serial number?  603.???.??
That exhaust manifold looks home-made.

On 8/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm






--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Mitch Haley]

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine. 

Is that one of the engines from the Alaskan GOA auction?
I believe those were in some kind of snow-cat, not a G.
Mitch

Re: [MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[OK Don]

Very interesting engine! What's the serial number?  603.???.??
That exhaust manifold looks home-made.

On 8/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm



--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Alert on Critical MicrosoftMessenger ServiceVulnerability

[OK Don]

Amiga was one of the leaders -- with decent marketing it could have
taken the graphics industry from Apple ---  The first digital video
eding suite I saw ran on an Amiga -- the video toaster(?).



Ah well, Apple has survived, unlike some of the others.  Imagine,
multi-user multitasking computers in 1978..They were around,
believe it or not.  Probably slower than molassas in January, but alive
-- Sinclair for one, don't remember the others.

Peter


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"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

[MBZ] check out this strange 603 engine I just got in

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/

Supposed to be a 3.5l, they said it was military engine.  Looks like it 
was from a G-wagon.  It has a #22 head!!! I bought it for the head but 
wonder if the engine is good.  Do these have the rod bending problems as 
well.  This euro or whatever version, what sort of hp will it have?  I 
have a nice SDL that would love to have a screaming fast 603 in it.  Hmm

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net