Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on
Andrew, I am not sure. His name is Tom. Carr Auto Electric His phone # is 231-788-0793 - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on Michael, Can he also fix a Bosch 1970 W111 wiper motor that doesn't shut off properly when in low-speed mode? I On 12/10/06, MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled the alternator and will have it tested tomorrow at a local shop. The guy runs a one man auto electric shop and will even let you come back and watch the procedure. He will often rebuild them on the spot. New bushings, electrics, diodes, rectifiers, and all that stuff. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting
Nope, that's not it. You can have 3 cars in each lane (3 lane freeway) and a motorcyle in between two cars making it 4 abreast. On 12/12/06, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's correct. cheers! e David Brodbeck wrote: I think the terms are used to refer to motorcycles and narrow vehicles like that. If I understand properly, lane sharing would be riding two-abreast in the same lane. Lane splitting would be riding in between the travel lanes, like to squeeze between cars that are stopped in traffic. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cheap 87 300D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Turbo-1987-Mercedes-300D-Turbo-Diesel-124-E-Class-White_W0QQitemZ320061277453QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 13 00:39:04 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.189]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GuI9F-0001Zb-Qk for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:39:04 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so359939nfe for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:36:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr2094929nfl.1165970209961; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.216.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:36:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:36:49 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:39:04 - it'll start, it'll just run like crap until the 5th cylinder gets heated enough to fire in sync with the others. On 12/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you have 4 instead of 5 functional glow plugs will a 1983 300D start or not? If yes, then how will it run compared to if it had 5/5 functioning GPs? On 12/10/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT - If you only look at the 45 state/50 state controversy re: Diesels, then the ball is certainly mostly in the Government's court, albeit State Governments. But the decision to import and sell certain models is up to the importer, such as MBUSA, etc. And it is apparent that MBUSA calls the shots on this, since as the biggest overseas customer of D-C, they won't likely be over-ruled by Stuttgart. The fact that MBUSA is bringing in the Bluetec V6 in the E Class ONLY seems to be purely a marketing decision, IMO. The very same engine is put into the S Class cars in Germany, and both cars meet USA federal safety requirements, with less fuel efficient engines. The decision not to offer a S320CDI doesn't appear to have any governmental influence! MBUSA is supposed to be offering an ML320CDI (non-bluetec), but that may be both because of vehicle weight classification and image (an SUV doesn't need to appear as luxurious as the vaunted S Class!) Werner '83SD; '90D - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs Marshall wrote:The very latest plugs (can't be retrofitted to most older engines) are said to start diesels reliably down to -30 deg. C with less than 5 sec glow. That explains why testers of the new 320 Bluetec were unable to tell if they were driving a diesel or not! Jim Mahaffey (a regular poster to prev MB email lists) did a road test of the 2007 320 Bluetec and said no scent-trail, no ignition clatter, no glow plug warm up, not a hint of soot... in the latest The Star magazine. and it gets ~37mpg. The advances made in diesel design during the past 20-30 years has been amazing IMHO. Let's hope the govt makes it easier to sell/by new diesel engined vehicles. As Werner posted last week, there's a plethora of diesel vehicles available. Hopefully the manufactureres will decide to jump thru the environmental safety hoops to sell here. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
Watch for used ones, and you don't have to live next to water - if you did, you'd want a hard shell kayak. These are for those of us that don't live next to water - On 12/12/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those look sweet. Just the thing to purchase after I win the lottery and I am able to move out of the desert and live next to water. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats. Andrew, It's funny you should mention that. I've just decided to part out my mint red '82 wagon due to a frontal collision. Southern car, no rust, palamino interior. Good leather drivers seat. Rear seats and third row seat is MB Tex in good condition. I also have a trailer hitch and nice crossbars on the car for sale. Make an offer. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (Two Parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] Recording Video
It sounds like it is recording the screen not the vid file. That's kinda weird if so. There are free Firefox plug-ins that will record vids for you, not avi though. --R LarryT wrote: Howdy - I love many of the car related videos we see links to so often but am frustrated at the difficulty downloading them and saving them in a format that'll be easy to play at our convienence. One of my Computer Newsletters had this today - http://store.worldstart.com/product.php?productid=2576 Wow, do we have a cool title for you today! I was so excited when I first heard about this one - I couldn't wait to get the sample in the door! What's got me so excited today? Internet Video Recorder! This amazing program makes recording streaming video off the internet simple and easy.What I love about this is it seems like my friends are always sending me links to funny videos, hilarious flash presentations (you know, those cartoon like impersonation vids), or even just a cool music video. With this software, it's easy to capture ANY streaming video and save it as an AVI file (AVI is about as universal as you can get with video). If you can watch it, this can record it! It's $12.97 with free shipping. I've bought software from these guys before have been happy with what I got --- Not pushing this stuff except to recommend a much wanted product - this looks like it would make saving videos quick easy. No affiliation except as a happy customer - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] used speres was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
Your friend's car requires new nitrogen spheres. Marshall The spheres on my parts wagon were only used about 18 months. If interested make an offer. I also had just recently rebuilt the control valve. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
Sunil Hari wrote: it'll start, it'll just run like crap until the 5th cylinder gets heated enough to fire in sync with the others. On 12/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you have 4 instead of 5 functional glow plugs will a 1983 300D start or not? If yes, then how will it run compared to if it had 5/5 functioning GPs? One tight valve or temperature sensitive injector will cause that too!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Carfax anyone?
Hello, I'm off this weekend to pick up an '87 124 diesel wagon courtesy of Jeff Zedic. It's located in the Great White North (Canada) and I will be reimporting it back to the States. I'm interested in the cars history and need documentation to show that it was originally a US spec car for customs purposes. Can anyone help me out. VIN as follows: WDBEB93D8HF032169 Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 13 01:45:54 2006 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.225]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GuJBy-0003d7-H4 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:45:54 + Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h30so28322wxd for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.29.2 with SMTP id c2mr202451agc.1165974228171; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.92.20 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:43:48 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:45:54 - Congrats! -- take all the credit, leave the work to her parents. On 12/12/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Gramps
Congratulations! Remember that grand kids are grandparent's revenge on their kids! Fred Moir Lynn MA
Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting
John, it's not clear what your point was here; were you trying to be humorous? cheers! e John Freer wrote: Nope, that's not it. You can have 3 cars in each lane (3 lane freeway) and a motorcyle in between two cars making it 4 abreast. On 12/12/06, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's correct. cheers! e David Brodbeck wrote: I think the terms are used to refer to motorcycles and narrow vehicles like that. If I understand properly, lane sharing would be riding two-abreast in the same lane. Lane splitting would be riding in between the travel lanes, like to squeeze between cars that are stopped in traffic. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] OT: Grandfather
congrats!! Rusty Cullens wrote: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Holy crap. Hursty is going to kill you. Rusty Cullens wrote: Sounds like a good idea, how about EVERYTHING we have, is 10% off for the rest of this week. All you have to do is call the order in, ask for me and say you want the Isabella special. That'll do it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability
no, and no kevin kraly wrote: I've got a tranny gasket and filter kit hangin' 'round that was ordered for my '78 300CD. Will this work with the '83 SD? Also, does this car have that dreaded tranny plug that also holds the filler/dipstick tube in place as the W123's do? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 284k miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Rusty Cullens wrote: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. I enjoyed it so much the first time that I'm going to try it again in April. Congratulations Rusty and even more congratulations to the mama - she did the really hard work! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
yeah, i have to say i do find that kind of talk upsetting On 12/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy crap. Hursty is going to kill you. Rusty Cullens wrote: Sounds like a good idea, how about EVERYTHING we have, is 10% off for the rest of this week. All you have to do is call the order in, ask for me and say you want the Isabella special. That'll do it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
I was thinking of charging 10% MORE for the special. Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, i have to say i do find that kind of talk upsetting On 12/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy crap. Hursty is going to kill you. Rusty Cullens wrote: Sounds like a good idea, how about EVERYTHING we have, is 10% off for the rest of this week. All you have to do is call the order in, ask for me and say you want the Isabella special. That'll do it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
Where is it - I want to buy it. Mike On 12/12/06, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats. Andrew, It's funny you should mention that. I've just decided to part out my mint red '82 wagon due to a frontal collision. Southern car, no rust, palamino interior. Good leather drivers seat. Rear seats and third row seat is MB Tex in good condition. I also have a trailer hitch and nice crossbars on the car for sale. Make an offer. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (Two Parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Your year is looking up and could not be more blessed to have an Angel come this time of year. On Dec 12, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:10:36 -0800 kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it's pronounced pawn tawn. Actually, being German, ponton would be pone tone (pone rhyming with tone, and tone pronounced like what you hear). Craig
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
pone tone Sounds corny to me At 09:51 PM 12/12/2006, you wrote: On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:10:36 -0800 kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it's pronounced pawn tawn. Actually, being German, ponton would be pone tone (pone rhyming with tone, and tone pronounced like what you hear). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
No, that's cone pone. --R Loren Faeth wrote: pone tone Sounds corny to me At 09:51 PM 12/12/2006, you wrote: On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:10:36 -0800 kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it's pronounced pawn tawn. Actually, being German, ponton would be pone tone (pone rhyming with tone, and tone pronounced like what you hear). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 Diveshaft yoke socket (Diff)
Can anyone tell me the part number for the special socket to take off the nut than holds the yoke on the Differential on a 123? I has 4 teeth Has anyone been able to take this off and put it back with the right torque with a punch and hammer? I am ready to either grind a socket to fit or use a punch to get it off so I can shcnnge the seal. 81 240D Loren Faeth 81 240D auto 80 240D 4 spd, on the resurrection list et al
[MBZ] 123 Diveshaft yoke socket (Diff)
Can anyone tell me the part number for the special socket to take off the nut than holds the yoke on the Differential on a 123? I has 4 teeth Has anyone been able to take this off and put it back with the right torque with a punch and hammer? I am ready to either grind a socket to fit or use a punch to get it off so I can change the seal. 81 240D Loren Faeth 81 240D auto 80 240D 4 spd, on the resurrection list et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] 123 Driveshaft yoke socket [was Re: 123 Diveshaft yoke socket (Diff)]
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:57:39 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me the part number for the special socket to take off the nut than holds the yoke on the Differential on a 123? I has 4 teeth Is it the same as the 126 uses? Would that web page that had the flex disk disintegrating have it (I do recall it mentioning removing the transmission yoke and I'd expect the same nut to be used on the differential, too). When in doubt, ask Rusty (and it's 10% off for the rest of this week if you ask for the Isabella Special!). Has anyone been able to take this off and put it back with the right torque with a punch and hammer? Don't even think of it. I am ready to either grind a socket to fit or use a punch to get it off so I can change the seal. Grinding the socket is the way to consider; forget the punch. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 123 Diveshaft yoke socket (Diff)
Can anyone tell me the part number for the special socket to take off the nut than holds the yoke on the Differential on a 123? I has 4 teeth Mine has W115 589 01 07 00 stamped on the side of it. It works _great_, a real joy how it slides perfectly into place. Unless some bozo has whanged on it with a punch! It cost $130, due to a mistake made by the dealer. I'd never have ordered it had I known what it was going to cost, they quoted $30. But there I was with the job started, and no way to finish. And the socket sitting on the counter in front of me... I am ready to either grind a socket to fit or use a punch to get it off so I can change the seal. If I were doing it again I'd try the socket route. Is it the same as the 126 uses? The later cars switched to a 12-point nut instead of the castle nut. I'd bet the 126 had switched, but you'll probably have to look. 107's came both ways. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
So if you have 4 instead of 5 functional glow plugs will a 1983 300D start or not? If yes, then how will it run compared to if it had 5/5 functioning GPs? 1) Usually, if not too cold out. 2) Not well. Not at first. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
The pawn tawn pronunciation is the closest my voice synthesizer can come to having a German accent! hahahahaha! Kevin in HIllsboro, OR 1983 300sD 284K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
What a bummer that you've now seen two of your wagons reduced to parts! I'm glad that you're going to move up to a W124 300TD. I hope that you get many years of service out of it. Kevin in Hillsboro OR 1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
Put umlauts over the o's, then see what the synthesizer calls it. Pöntön = Poen Toen. Cool, now it sounds French! On 12/12/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pawn tawn pronunciation is the closest my voice synthesizer can come to having a German accent! hahahahaha! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
Now that's funny! The one with the umlauts it pronounces poantin, and the poen toen it pronounces peen tone! I had to change how it pronounces the word diesel since it used to say deessel rather than the correct German pronunciation, deezel. Kevin in Hillsboro OR 1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] 123 Diveshaft yoke socket (Diff)
Check with the parts people - the new part might be a 12 point nut., so the only problem might be to get it off. Gringing a socket only will generally not be strong enough - you will have to harden it or weld hardened steel teeth to the socket - that what I did for my G-wagon. PEter -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 December 2006 06:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 123 Diveshaft yoke socket (Diff) Can anyone tell me the part number for the special socket to take off the nut than holds the yoke on the Differential on a 123? I has 4 teeth Has anyone been able to take this off and put it back with the right torque with a punch and hammer? I am ready to either grind a socket to fit or use a punch to get it off so I can change the seal. 81 240D Loren Faeth 81 240D auto 80 240D 4 spd, on the resurrection list et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
The wagon is in the Detroit suburbs. Let's make a deal! Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon) Where is it - I want to buy it. Mike On 12/12/06, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats. Andrew, It's funny you should mention that. I've just decided to part out my mint red '82 wagon due to a frontal collision. Southern car, no rust, palamino interior. Good leather drivers seat. Rear seats and third row seat is MB Tex in good condition. I also have a trailer hitch and nice crossbars on the car for sale. Make an offer. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (Two Parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
What a bummer that you've now seen two of your wagons reduced to parts! I'm glad that you're going to move up to a W124 300TD. I hope that you get many years of service out of it. Kevin in Hillsboro OR Thanks for your sympathies Kevin. Actually the other parts wagon was bought from Zedic to support my beloved red wagon. As many of you know I got lots of useful parts from that wagon and was in the process of transplanting it's engine into the red one. I had also already purchased new fenders and a hood for the repair. Unfortunately the guy who was going to do the body work noticed enough front rail deflection that would need straightening to make the project cost prohibitive. Thats when we decided parting out was a better option. My 10 year old son and wife are disappointed since a 123 fire engine red wagon is a very unique vehicle these days. Fortunately this deal for Zedic's wagon came along at the right time. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] M1 or Amsoil prices
Levi, I will have to check on that again.I'll make a point to give Roger a call and get a current price..Maybe I should just get an Amsoil dealership and sell it to all the MBZ guysSeems Mobil 1 is getting too hard to find what you want and then when you find it they change to something else..I just put the 15K mile oil in my Heep Cherokee..Took 3 WalMarts to find ONE extra quart of the 10W-30. Good thing it doesn't use any, just wanted a spare quart in case it decides to. I'll let you know what I find out. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] M1 or Amsoil prices Hey Mike, Did you say something about being able to get Amsoil for $5/quart? I was just out looking for some M1 and it seems to be more like $7+/quart now... If Amsoil is just as good and cheaper, I'm all for that... Or does anyone else know the best places to buy either? Heck, for almost $8/quart, I'll go back to my 5 gallon pails of Redline oil... Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
it would be the accumulators, I have them here in Atlanta, he could pick them up. - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon) My friend in Atlanta has a ride/suspension problem with his 1985 300TD station wagon. The car bounces on rough roads but nothing dampens the oscillation so the bounciness persists way too long. Ordinarily this might be diagnosed as worn out shocks but the problem seems to be in the REAR and the car has a hydraulic suspension with struts and air cells in lieu of conventional rear shocks and springs. Is there some adjustable part in the rear suspension that controls ride firmness? Or could it need new air cells? The struts are not leaking so they're OK. BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Yeah, I know. - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather Holy crap. Hursty is going to kill you. Rusty Cullens wrote: Sounds like a good idea, how about EVERYTHING we have, is 10% off for the rest of this week. All you have to do is call the order in, ask for me and say you want the Isabella special. That'll do it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Diveshaft yoke socket (Diff)
Thanks Jim. Wanna recoup some of the expense by renting it out for a week or so? I have an email in to Herr Rusty (Gramps) to see what the current price is. At 12:21 AM 12/13/2006, you wrote: Can anyone tell me the part number for the special socket to take off the nut than holds the yoke on the Differential on a 123? I has 4 teeth Mine has W115 589 01 07 00 stamped on the side of it. It works _great_, a real joy how it slides perfectly into place. Unless some bozo has whanged on it with a punch! It cost $130, due to a mistake made by the dealer. I'd never have ordered it had I known what it was going to cost, they quoted $30. But there I was with the job started, and no way to finish. And the socket sitting on the counter in front of me... I am ready to either grind a socket to fit or use a punch to get it off so I can change the seal. If I were doing it again I'd try the socket route. Is it the same as the 126 uses? The later cars switched to a 12-point nut instead of the castle nut. I'd bet the 126 had switched, but you'll probably have to look. 107's came both ways. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] OT: Movie Reviews
The other night my wife was travelling so daughter and I rented some flicks that I recommend to gearheads, motorheads, greasemonkeys, oilburners, wingnuts, and other autoeroticists. Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift: No discernible plot (except good guy wins and gets the girl after wrecking several cars, duh), lots of fast cars and great surround sound. Crank it up and shake the pictures off the walls. An excellent special guest appearance at the end, in a very cool car. I even liked the soundtrack, all that rap and techno and whatever else it was. I might have to buy this one. The World's Fastest Indian: Great true story about an old dude with a 42(?) year old Indian who takes a trip from NZ to Bonneville and breaks 200mph on the thing in 1962(?). Some nice sights and sounds of a few old speedsters running on the salt. I would buy this one too. I liked the part where his goggles blow off at about 190. Both are mostly kid-safe (though the old Kiwi does have some interesting encounters, giving hope to us all, with one possible exception, not that there is anything wrong with it). We also got XMen 3, which will also give the bass thumper a nice workout, good brain candy. So throw a pizza in the oven, chill a few barleypops, and alert the neighbors to sonic emissions. --R
Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie Reviews
Tokyo Drift doesnt seem like my type of movie, dont care about rice burners really. I just watched JFK for the first time. I had seen parts here and there but never the whole thing. What a great movie. Another movie I rented recently was the new Superman movie. Opinions? Im still up in the air on this one. Rich Thomas wrote: The other night my wife was travelling so daughter and I rented some flicks that I recommend to gearheads, motorheads, greasemonkeys, oilburners, wingnuts, and other autoeroticists. Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift: No discernible plot (except good guy wins and gets the girl after wrecking several cars, duh), lots of fast cars and great surround sound. Crank it up and shake the pictures off the walls. An excellent special guest appearance at the end, in a very cool car. I even liked the soundtrack, all that rap and techno and whatever else it was. I might have to buy this one. The World's Fastest Indian: Great true story about an old dude with a 42(?) year old Indian who takes a trip from NZ to Bonneville and breaks 200mph on the thing in 1962(?). Some nice sights and sounds of a few old speedsters running on the salt. I would buy this one too. I liked the part where his goggles blow off at about 190. Both are mostly kid-safe (though the old Kiwi does have some interesting encounters, giving hope to us all, with one possible exception, not that there is anything wrong with it). We also got XMen 3, which will also give the bass thumper a nice workout, good brain candy. So throw a pizza in the oven, chill a few barleypops, and alert the neighbors to sonic emissions. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
Marshall, What's a temperatrue sensitive injector? On 12/12/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: it'll start, it'll just run like crap until the 5th cylinder gets heated enough to fire in sync with the others. On 12/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you have 4 instead of 5 functional glow plugs will a 1983 300D start or not? If yes, then how will it run compared to if it had 5/5 functioning GPs? One tight valve or temperature sensitive injector will cause that too!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie Reviews
I was in Sears th other say and they were playing the new Superman on their tvs. Seemed a bit dark for me. I find there's too much nasty goingson nowadays. It was the scene where LL stabs Superman with a shard of Kryptonite and he falls off this amazingly high cliff in a straight line...hmmm All I ket thinking was, Gee, does Kevin Spacey ever have a heard time looking tough..is he really trying t look exactly like Gene Hackman? I don't wath many of the new movies anymore. Jeff Zedic
Re: [MBZ] M1 or Amsoil prices
I found a good place to buy M1 in Iowa City. The 15-50 trk stuff is $5.85 a qt. 10W-30 gasser M1 is easy to find. it is in every K-mart. I have not been in a wallyland for over a year, so I don't know what they have. At 08:09 AM 12/13/2006, you wrote: Levi, I will have to check on that again.I'll make a point to give Roger a call and get a current price..Maybe I should just get an Amsoil dealership and sell it to all the MBZ guysSeems Mobil 1 is getting too hard to find what you want and then when you find it they change to something else..I just put the 15K mile oil in my Heep Cherokee..Took 3 WalMarts to find ONE extra quart of the 10W-30. Good thing it doesn't use any, just wanted a spare quart in case it decides to. I'll let you know what I find out. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] M1 or Amsoil prices Hey Mike, Did you say something about being able to get Amsoil for $5/quart? I was just out looking for some M1 and it seems to be more like $7+/quart now... If Amsoil is just as good and cheaper, I'm all for that... Or does anyone else know the best places to buy either? Heck, for almost $8/quart, I'll go back to my 5 gallon pails of Redline oil... Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie Reviews
Tokyo Drift is awesome just because they used real cars and drivers, instead of the CGI of the second movie. On 12/13/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Sears th other say and they were playing the new Superman on their tvs. Seemed a bit dark for me. I find there's too much nasty goingson nowadays. It was the scene where LL stabs Superman with a shard of Kryptonite and he falls off this amazingly high cliff in a straight line...hmmm All I ket thinking was, Gee, does Kevin Spacey ever have a heard time looking tough..is he really trying t look exactly like Gene Hackman? I don't wath many of the new movies anymore. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
What's a temperature sensitive injector? Broken. -- Jim
[MBZ] 1972 220D
Courting possibly purchasing a 220D as a third car or the family. Southern car. One owner. 190K miles on vehicle rebuilt engine at 150K. Car appears to be well maintained. All instrruments and fans work. Automatic tranny. Presendtly being looked at by a reputable mechanic visa via an inspection/mechanical and rust inspection. Wanted to gt the lists opinion on these car. Besides the ussual stuff you hear from you tubo people about slow acceleration. Are parts hard to get? If I can work on a 123 chassis how easy are these 115 chassis. Oil filters look a little tougher to change? Regards Tom Sordato 1979 240D
[MBZ] Variable intake manifold
Can anybody enlighten me as to what the theory is behind the variable resonance intake manifold on the 606.9xx naturally aspirated diesel? There is quite a complex control system doing something. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
Thanks - I would NEVER have figured that out by myself. I guess the cheaper fix is to R/R all the glow plugs. On 12/13/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's a temperature sensitive injector? Broken. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie Reviews
Sunil Hari wrote: Tokyo Drift is awesome just because they used real cars and drivers, instead of the CGI of the second movie. Hmm, I might have to actually see it, then. I saw the first one, and the amount of CGI work kind of turned me off. I prefer movies with real stunt driving in them.
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
You are talking about a 617 engine with small pencil-type glow plugs, right? Why not just test the glow plugs? It is quick and easy, then you only need to replace the bad one(s). All you need is an Ohmmeter that will read fairly accurately resistance in the range of 0-10 ohms. The only reason to replace all is if all GPs are 15 + yrs old or if you are converting to a faster type GP or converting loop type to pencil type. At 01:51 PM 12/13/2006, you wrote: I guess the cheaper fix is to R/R all the glow plugs. Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] 123 Diveshaft yoke socket (Diff)
Jim, you got a bargain! Rusty sez that socket is now over $200! Jim, Now I am really serious about renting your socket. Let me know if you might consider a rental. Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
Thanks. I think the GPs may be ORIGINAL with the car (1983 300TD); I know for a fact that they haven't been changed since 1989 On 12/13/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are talking about a 617 engine with small pencil-type glow plugs, right? Why not just test the glow plugs? It is quick and easy, then you only need to replace the bad one(s). All you need is an Ohmmeter that will read fairly accurately resistance in the range of 0-10 ohms. The only reason to replace all is if all GPs are 15 + yrs old or if you are converting to a faster type GP or converting loop type to pencil type. At 01:51 PM 12/13/2006, you wrote: I guess the cheaper fix is to R/R all the glow plugs. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Variable intake manifold
well all I know is that it varies the length of the intake runners, so making them longer gets the air going in faster so you have more power. Hans Neureiter wrote: Can anybody enlighten me as to what the theory is behind the variable resonance intake manifold on the 606.9xx naturally aspirated diesel? There is quite a complex control system doing something. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Movie Reviews
As so I. Shoot, anymore, just about everything is CGI, sometimes you cant really tell. Pretty soon the whole movie will just be cgi with no real actors. David Brodbeck wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: Tokyo Drift is awesome just because they used real cars and drivers, instead of the CGI of the second movie. Hmm, I might have to actually see it, then. I saw the first one, and the amount of CGI work kind of turned me off. I prefer movies with real stunt driving in them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
Tom, These are great cars and not near as under powered as a 123 body 240D. Oil changes are a real PIA - I seemed to always run oil down to my elbow. Also, make sure that the re-useable plastic oil filter is in the oil housing. Many were thown away without it, you really have no filter at all! The plastic filter is the main engine oil filter. The cartrige is a bypass filter. Without the plastic filter in place, the bypass filter won't seat oil will just flow around everything. The climate control blower motor can also be a pain. Plan for 2 long weekends if it ever fails. Too bad it's an auto, my 1972 220D was a 4 speed. My 2 - 1975 240D's were both auto trannys not near as much fun to drive. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/13/06 01:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1972 220D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Courting possibly purchasing a 220D as a third car or the family. Southern car. One owner. 190K miles on vehicle rebuilt engine at 150K. Car appears to be well maintained. All instrruments and fans work. Automatic tranny. Presendtly being looked at by a reputable mechanic visa via an inspection/mechanical and rust inspection. Wanted to gt the lists opinion on these car. Besides the ussual stuff you hear from you tubo people about slow acceleration. Are parts hard to get? If I can work on a 123 chassis how easy are these 115 chassis. Oil filters look a little tougher to change? Regards Tom Sordato 1979 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Variable intake manifold
The theory is at lower RPMs, the air runs through the longer runners to develop more torque. As the RPM's climb, it switches over to the short runners for more HP. On my car, you can feel the changover around 3,900 or 4,000 RPM and it pulls strong right up to 5,200 RPM. The '89 to '94 SHO Tauruses had some of the first variable length runners on a production car (or the first to work really well). J.B. At 02:31 PM 12/13/2006, you wrote: Can anybody enlighten me as to what the theory is behind the variable resonance intake manifold on the 606.9xx naturally aspirated diesel? There is quite a complex control system doing something. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/585 - Release Date: 12/13/2006 11:49 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/585 - Release Date: 12/13/2006 11:49 AM
Re: [MBZ] Variable intake manifold
Hans Neureiter wrote: Can anybody enlighten me as to what the theory is behind the variable resonance intake manifold on the 606.9xx naturally aspirated diesel? There is quite a complex control system doing something. The length (so the resonant frequency) of the air intake runners is changed depending on engine speed. That increases the available air over what fixed length intake runners would permit without the complexity and cost of a turbo so allows a bit more power (10-15%) out of the engine (but less than a turbo could develop). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
andrew strasfogel wrote: Marshall, What's a temperatrue sensitive injector? One that misbehaves when it gets cold. It's not real common but it does happen. Dave Quay (used to run Atlantic-Stuttgart Auto Parts) used to diagnose them by putting the suspected injector(s) into the freezer before testing them and a temperature sensitive one would display flawed spray pattern or injection pressure when cold. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Courting possibly purchasing a 220D as a third car or the family. Southern car. One owner. 190K miles on vehicle rebuilt engine at 150K. Car appears to be well maintained. All instrruments and fans work. Automatic tranny. Presendtly being looked at by a reputable mechanic visa via an inspection/mechanical and rust inspection. Wanted to gt the lists opinion on these car. Besides the ussual stuff you hear from you tubo people about slow acceleration. Are parts hard to get? If I can work on a 123 chassis how easy are these 115 chassis. Oil filters look a little tougher to change? Factory rebuilds are GREAT. All others are highly suspect. Few people outside of the factory rebuild Mercedes engines by the book and when NOT done by the book, they tend to be quite unreliable. I'd much rather have a well cared for factory engine with 250-300kmi on it than a undocumented rebuild even with less than 20kmi on it. I consider most cars with a non-factory rebuilds to be highly undesirable considering that there are plenty of cars with engines that were properly assembled at the factory and haven't worn out yet! I have met a few people that I believe could properly rebuild an engine, but only a few. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
Since you have the pencil type, on the left fender, near the front, there is a GP relay, about 4 x 4 x 1.5 inches. Take the cover off. Inside there is a 6 pin plug and a smaller plug. Pull off the 6 pin plug. Take the ohmmeter and measure the resistance between each of the 5 positions with contacts in them in the plug and a good ground (usually bare metal on the engine.) If you want to test the GP relay, use a voltmeter and test the voltage of the pins on the relay within a few seconds after the key is turned on. Resistance should be 0.6 ohms or 0.7 Resistance of 0 means the plug is open, and bad. Resistance at or near infinity also means the plug is bad. If you get a resistance of 3 ohms or higher, the plug is bad. most cheap meaters are kind of hard to tell if you have a borderline plug, but you can learn how to interpret the results. Measure 2-3 times to be sure you are getting consistent results. (repeatability) At 02:41 PM 12/13/2006, you wrote: Thanks. I think the GPs may be ORIGINAL with the car (1983 300TD); I know for a fact that they haven't been changed since 1989 Loren Faeth
[MBZ] 240D Battery
Hello Everyone. I have had my 83 240D for 6 years and the battery I bought when I got the car is starting to fade. What should I get? Parts store says they have a 240D' battery in stock 850 Cold Cranking Amp. is that enough? (Whatever battery I get must fit in the tray.) Thank you, John Ingram, Baltimore, MD 83 240D 238K
[MBZ] Gump parts (115 body)
After sitting for about 4 years, I put a battery in the junker 76 300D and she fired right up! I plan to use the engine for a transplant. I hope to scrap out the rest in the next few weeks. If anyone is in need of 115 parts, she has a decent RF fender, a repairable LF fender, the hood has heavy surface rust, but is useable and the grille is decent. It also has a decent front 5 mph bumper, good glass all around, some window regulators and a few other goodies. I will also sell the trans, and probably the driveshaft and diff when it is all over. Trunk lid is available, but not worth much. Tail light lenses are faded. Parts are in SE Iowa Anyone interested in pieces, contact me offlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery
http://www.interstatebatteries.com/estore/search.asp?details=1mscssid=95NTUH3XEPMX9PSCC8NNGXTM4KVL0374N=21+4294574607+2147384763+4294574568part_number=MTP%2D93part_desc=Mega%2DTron+Plus+%2D+85+Months+%2D+850+CCANu=Part+NumberNs=product+Type%7C0%7C%7CRank%7C1js=1 850 CCA is what you want. I've had good luck with the Interstate MTP-93 w/ my 240D. And that is in Iowa, not Maryland. On 12/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone. I have had my 83 240D for 6 years and the battery I bought when I got the car is starting to fade. What should I get? Parts store says they have a 240D' battery in stock 850 Cold Cranking Amp. is that enough?(Whateverbattery I get must fit in the tray.) Thank you, John Ingram, Baltimore, MD 83 240D 238K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
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And the winner is? ALDA. Seems the 'professional' mechanic could remember to hook the hose from the ALDA to the 'relay' but threw away the hose from the 'relay' to the intake manifold. I used my 300 SD to compare. What is the purpose of the 'relay'? I have bypassed mine for the moment. I hooked up a piece of hose from the intake barb to the ALDA and went for a quick blast. Much better! Came back home to see a long black streak on the road(about 30 feet long). It's not what your thinking, see below. I noticed that when I left I made a LOT of black smoke - enough to leave a 30 ft long black line of soot on the road. It only happened the one time and has been great since(stuck ALDA?). Thanks for the answers - got me motivated enough to get my lazy arse under the hood. I've been driving it this way since I got it(about 9 months and 18K miles). Waylon Black Little Elm, Texas
Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should I get? Parts store says they have a 240D' battery in stock 850 Cold Cranking Amp. is that enough? (Whatever battery I get must fit in the tray.) I believe the group 49 I bought for my 300SD was 1000CA/850CCA, so it's probably the same battery you were quoted. The alternative is to get a gelled cell (Orbital or Optima) which won't vent acidic fumes that rust out your firewall. What was your price quote? Advance and Autozone have decent ones for about $70 IIRC. MBZ factory battery should be in the low $1xx range if you can get a good deal. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery
Advance Auto is $71.88 (type 49) with 3-year replacement. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 12/13/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should I get? Parts store says they have a 240D' battery in stock 850 Cold Cranking Amp. is that enough? (Whatever battery I get must fit in the tray.) I believe the group 49 I bought for my 300SD was 1000CA/850CCA, so it's probably the same battery you were quoted. The alternative is to get a gelled cell (Orbital or Optima) which won't vent acidic fumes that rust out your firewall. What was your price quote? Advance and Autozone have decent ones for about $70 IIRC. MBZ factory battery should be in the low $1xx range if you can get a good deal. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
Marshal: Concerning rebuilds and factory engines on the W115 -- MB had quite a few problems with pre-mature wear on that engine, and factory originals are prone to excessive cylinder wear. A miss-match between piston, sleeve, and ring types will also do the same thing on rebuilds. My friend remembers them being replaced a lot under warranty (or rebuilt with high nickel sleeves and different pistons) -- and today one with 150,000 original miles may be a smoker. Terrible head cracking problems during the 60's as well, during which time his father stopped using MB diesels in his taxi business. MB was eventually forced to give extended warranties on heads by the German government. Something about taking the head design away from the actual producer because it was cheaper, then changing it, somewhat less than successfully. I agree that rebuilds done in the US can be horrible -- if not done to MB tolerances, you can end up with one burning a quart of oil in 200 miles within 10,000 miles of rebuild! Some are so sloppy the rings never seat -- my brother and I got one like that to replace his 617 with a broken crank (again, a crappy rebuild -- orange silicone slopped all over the oil filter housing gasket, a big slug sat on the #2 main oil hole --- you can guess the result). That replacement engine had a ring ridge almost 0.015 deep! Bore was 0.005 larger than the piston, pistons had extruded ring lands, crank was ground to the nearest SAE dimension SMALLER than the minimum metric size allowed, was only smooth and shiny where ti ran on the bearings, valve were way beyond terminal wear, and the valve guides were all 0.005 or more oversize. I don't think it ran long, I'm quite surprised it ever started. I don't remember what the bearing clearance was on the crank when we got the engine, but I think it was 0.005 or more. We rebuilt it properly (after much discussion about valve guide clearance at the machine shop), and it's been running for six years now -- starts instantly no matter how cold it gets, very little black smoke and never uses oil between changes. Has 45 lbs oil pressure at idle hot unless you just pulled off the interstate! Peter
