Re: [MBZ] ATF for 91 W124 300D 2.5
LarryT - I've been using Mobil1 Synthetic ATF in my '90 300D 2.5 for about 80k miles now, and it still shifts smoothly, with no leaks. Changing it every 30k, including the torque converter, new filter and gasket, of course every change. Werner '90 D 229k '83 SD 225k - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] ATF for 91 W124 300D 2.5 I plan to use Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF but need to confirm that's the proper fluid - I believe I need a Dexron III equivilent? TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
Re: [MBZ] ATF for 91 W124 300D 2.5
The Mobil 1 made a great improvement in my 300D 2.5. The dealer put it in when I had a factory refurbished transmission installed. They recommended it. It shifts much better when cold. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 81k LarryT wrote: I plan to use Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF but need to confirm that's the proper fluid - I believe I need a Dexron III equivilent? TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ATF for 91 W124 300D 2.5
I plan to use Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF but need to confirm that's the proper fluid - I believe I need a Dexron III equivilent? TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem
It should start in either P or D - if the neutral start switch is working properly. It sounds like poor connections somewhere - at the battery, starter or ground. Could always be a smaller wire somewhere in the starting circuit making partial contact. Start with the obvious - battery cables, then starter cables, grounds, and on and on. There's not any real shortcuts - just work thru one possibility at a time - I hope you have a warm place to work? Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem Car is a 1979 240D Symptons: A few days ago, went to start, got a "click click sound", panel lights went on for a second then went off when ingnition was put to full right position. I then put to full left, off for a second and tried again and got the normal responce and car started. Yesterday, same as above happened after car started fine and I had shut it down for fuel. I was again able to start the car based on the above, car had same sysmptoms. Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position. Battery is at 13.08 volts across battery terminals, no signs the alternator is foul. The radio works when ignition is in the #1 radio position and when ignition switch is in the start position I am getting a reading on my fuel gage, just no lights on panel and not even a click from the (soleniond on starter???) car. Just need some exact paths to take to trouble shoot. Looking at the one line electrical drawing looks like there is a transmission in park switch. I do not see a relay in the starter circuit to go bad. But if it is a bad starter or coil would this cause the panel lights to not work? Any help would appreciate it as this is my only driver. Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.1/690 - Release Date: 2/16/2007
[MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem
Car is a 1979 240D Symptons: A few days ago, went to start, got a "click click sound", panel lights went on for a second then went off when ingnition was put to full right position. I then put to full left, off for a second and tried again and got the normal responce and car started. Yesterday, same as above happened after car started fine and I had shut it down for fuel. I was again able to start the car based on the above, car had same sysmptoms. Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position. Battery is at 13.08 volts across battery terminals, no signs the alternator is foul. The radio works when ignition is in the #1 radio position and when ignition switch is in the start position I am getting a reading on my fuel gage, just no lights on panel and not even a click from the (soleniond on starter???) car. Just need some exact paths to take to trouble shoot. Looking at the one line electrical drawing looks like there is a transmission in park switch. I do not see a relay in the starter circuit to go bad. But if it is a bad starter or coil would this cause the panel lights to not work? Any help would appreciate it as this is my only driver. Regards Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions
Marshall Booth wrote: I would certainly suggest a water sequestering agent in fuel that's been setting for months or years. Once the water is bound, the algae dies and there's no need for a separate algaecide (or you can drain the fuel - that's the most complex, but safest solution). Old diesel fuel can cause many problems despite the fact that the engine may start and run on it. Whether you drain the old fuel or not, as soon as it's been replaced with clean fresh fuel you probably should run a POWERFUL fuel system cleaner thru the system and possibly even a lubricity improver or a tank or two of biodiesel B20 to free up all the moving parts in the injection system. Noted. I'll throw some Power Service in the tank before I try to start it and run some Diesel Purge once running - I guess there's really no point in making the engine run on poorer fuel than necessary, and a new filter is the first order of business once the glow plugs are working. I suppose I should dip the tank before starting, too, just to make sure there is in fact nothing living in there. Thanks Marshall, and everyone else, too. Tom
Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions
Peter Frederick wrote: And buy several filters -- likely you will shake all sorts of crud loose and they will plug several times until you get it all out. Watch for a plugging tank screed, too -- quite likely if there is algae in there. Once it's dead, it will plug the screen as it peels of the tank bottom. What he said, sorry I forgot to add the filter warning. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions
And buy several filters -- likely you will shake all sorts of crud loose and they will plug several times until you get it all out. Watch for a plugging tank screed, too -- quite likely if there is algae in there. Once it's dead, it will plug the screen as it peels of the tank bottom. Peter
Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions
Loren Faeth wrote: One way is to add some algicide/water dispersant, except for Herr Booth whos cars never sit long enough to collect condensation. We were, however originally talking about a car that has set inactive for years. I would certainly suggest a water sequestering agent in fuel that's been setting for months or years. Once the water is bound, the algae dies and there's no need for a separate algaecide (or you can drain the fuel - that's the most complex, but safest solution). Old diesel fuel can cause many problems despite the fact that the engine may start and run on it. Whether you drain the old fuel or not, as soon as it's been replaced with clean fresh fuel you probably should run a POWERFUL fuel system cleaner thru the system and possibly even a lubricity improver or a tank or two of biodiesel B20 to free up all the moving parts in the injection system. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] POS SDL
Both I and my completely rust free [ok, I did have to have the rust cut out under the rear window], non-oil burning 300SD take offense at that. Air hoses at thirty paces BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 284k miles - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] POS SDL Of course it's a POS - it's from FL! Can anyone figure out the mileage? On 2/16/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1986-Merzedes-Benz-300SDL-TurboDiesel_W0QQitemZ130080656782QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Short someplace?
Clay - If the more traditional fixes don't fix it, take what Jim explained to heart. My '81 380SL did that for a while and I finally traced it to a crack in the foil trace on the back of the instrument cluster P.C. board Barry The charge light is hooked between the field and the battery. If the alternator is not generating current the light supplies field current. If there is a bad connection to the battery, current will flow backwards through the light, also lighting it. In other words, it could be any number of things. A voltmeter and an ammeter are really required in order to be able to pinpoint what is truly going on. I'd check the brushes first, the belt tightness, and the state of the connections between the alternator and the battery.
Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon
Looks pretty good considering all its ailments. I like the fact that the hatch stays open in winter. My 123 300TD hatch struts are degassed again. :( On 2/16/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-300TE-W124-Parts-Car-daily-driver_W0QQitemZ270090799385QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] POS SDL
Of course it's a POS - it's from FL! Can anyone figure out the mileage? On 2/16/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1986-Merzedes-Benz-300SDL-TurboDiesel_W0QQitemZ130080656782QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler
We have already done our holiday pilgrimage over New Year's. I've had my annual "fix" of subzero temperatures, so it will be when the weather is warm, and yes, I will vey much want to see the 300D if it has thawedout by then. I will let you know. On 2/16/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are on! Give me a heads up when you are coming up here and I'll meet you at Tim's for coffee. If it is summer, I may even bring the Benz. If you come in winter, you will have to settle for the truck. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler Randy, you are actually just the SECOND to come up with the correct answer, after JW Reames. I did not count Marshall because his correct response was embedded in a learned and exhaustive dissertation on How to Properly Start Your Mercedes Diesel, which I found extremely enlightening. I also yelled "D'OH" when I came to the part about cranking until it starts or the battery dies, without the use of the fuel pedal. John R. is more local than you by about 1550 miles (Baltimore vs. Winnipeg) and therefore more likely to claim his prize, but on my next trip to Winnipeg I will shout you a cup of Java at Tim Horton's, Fixx, or Second Cup. (Winnipeg is the ancestral home of my Canadian sig. oth. so we fly up there several times a year,) ALS On 2/15/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm behind too but I should have known the answer. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ] > On Behalf Of R A Bennell > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:56 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler > > OK, I'm way behind on this. Umpteen people had already guessed the correct > > answer. > However, I've impressed myself by actually guessing the correct answer. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R A Bennell > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:54 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler > > > Pump the fuel primer?? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:42 PM > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler > > > A little gas in the intake > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:27 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler > > OK, I have a puzzler. Let's see how good you all are. FIist correct > reply > wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.) > > 1985 300CD. For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car > started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F. > Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street > overnight, > with no way to plug in the block heater. Temp. was 17 degrees this AM > with > a wind chill of maybe 5. We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the > light went out. Engine turned but would not fire. Tried twice more, > using > the gas pedal, but to no avail! I had her pop the hood and try a fourth > time while I watched - still turned but no dice. Battery was strong, > fortunately. I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with > something in the engine area. I then myself tried to start it again using > > the same preglow procedure. This time the engine fired instantly and ran > flawlessly. > > Question: What exactly did I do under the hood? > > Hint: I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as > a > technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather. This > doesn't > prove or mean anything but then again, it might. > > Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary > and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence. > > ALS > > On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Looks like this dude has a Xferable warranty. > > You reckon it's one offered by the dealer they charge a bizillion $s > for > > when you buy the vehicle? > > > > Would this be outside the years for sludge issues? > > > > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html > > > > > > > > Bob, > > > > Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood. I went to the
Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions
Ok, since it was in climate controlled storage, algae is probably not an issue. I formally withdraw my suggestion of using an algicide and apologize to those who were offended by the suggestion. At 07:45 AM 2/17/2007, you wrote: Thanks for all the tips, guys. I didn't get a chance to work on it yesterday, but should be able to get to it in the coming week. I'm hopeful that it won't have any problems with algae. The car has been in climate controlled storage all this time; last spring I revived an '83 300D that had been stored alongside the Finny and had traveled less than 100 miles since 1993. All it took to get it going and running nigh unto perfectly on that ancient fuel was a fresh battery and a turn of the key, so hope springs eternal. I'll keep you posted on my progess. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions
One way is to add some algicide/water dispersant, except for Herr Booth whos cars never sit long enough to collect condensation. We were, however originally talking about a car that has set inactive for years. At 07:24 PM 2/16/2007, you wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Marshall Booth wrote: > You NEVER need to use an algaecide as long as you remove ALL water from > the fuel tank several times a year and buy quality fuel. Algae can't > live unless there is water in the tank. They live in the water - they > EAT the fuel. How do you empty the fuel tank of water? im starting to get condensation in one of them (it is visible as ice on the inside of the fuel cap when I do my mornign fill-up) -j. -- 1985 300D "Gerta" 1999 E300Dt "Hans" 1999 E300Dt "Frantz" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] This is the "fast" lane!
My spelling sucksBEAUTIFUL is what that should read Mike - Original Message - From: "Michael Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is the "fast" lane! INCREDIBLE!! Absolutely beutiful...nearly brought a tear to my eye.. Mike - Original Message - From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] This is the "fast" lane! Hi all, Click on this and have a great ride... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x157l2_bugatti-veyron-at-top-speed Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is the "fast" lane!
INCREDIBLE!! Absolutely beutiful...nearly brought a tear to my eye.. Mike - Original Message - From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] This is the "fast" lane! Hi all, Click on this and have a great ride... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x157l2_bugatti-veyron-at-top-speed Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
