Re: [MBZ] fretting

[Mitch Haley]

Jim Cathey wrote:
> But we were talking about the denting of bearing races when
> the bearing rocks, rather than rolling.

And here's what my favorite retired Porsche/H-P  engineer/anal-retentive
(Jobst Brandt) had to say on the subject of non-turning ball bearings. 
(it seems that "fretting" may actually be the lube failure, and "galling"
may be a better word for what happens to the bearing surface)
http://yarchive.net/bike/head_bearing.html

[MBZ] big diesel

[Henry Kolesnik]

take a look
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain and related parts on 1987 300D turbo....

[Hendrik Riessen]

I just did the chain and top guide rail my 190E, which is a single row 
chain. Total cost of parts was AU$85 and that is for a quality Iwis chain. 
Took an afternoon to do but does require some experience. It is recommended 
to use a temporary link to ensure the timing is correct before installing 
the permenant link, although on the M102 it is possible to correct the 
timing by removing the camshaft sproket.

Anyway the top of my radiator just busted so I got that to fix up.

- Original Message - 
From: "RICHARD FIne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "mercedes" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:38 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Timing chain and related parts on 1987 300D turbo



Hello,
I posted this question some time ago, but the settings on my computer were 
such that I could get the heading of the answers/questions, but not the 
contents of the message.. it's fixed now, so I will try again.


Is the changing of the timing chain for the the 1987 300D the same as the 
earlier model (1980 thru 1985) in that all is needed is to pull the new 
chain thru via the old chain, and maybe, if needed, change the tensioner? 
At how many miles is recommended (at 200,000?)


I had my car in the shop (local dealer) to have the steering gearbox 
replaced, and I asked about changing the timing gear. I have about 275,000 
miles and I told them I needed an estimate to change the chain.
The manager looked at me funny, and said, We don't change the chain unless 
it needs it, your car does not display the signs of needing the chain 
replaced.
I replied that I rather have it changed than to wait and have it break and 
ruin the engine.
He later gave me an estimate, which included changing the gears, and all 
related parts. Is this necessary with the 87 300D? All together, with 
labor, it was like $1,600.00 to change the timing chain... which I thought 
was very excessive.

What is recommended with the 1987 300D engine?

Thanks,

Rick
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/712 - Release Date: 6/03/2007 
3:42 PM

Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

[OK Don]

You have to look at the total tax load - and in some cases, that's not
simple to do.


I'm puzzled that Nevada is not on that list, since they have no state
income tax on either personal or corporate income.  I also thought
they had no sales tax but looks like that is not correct.

Allan

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

[OK Don]

If all other things are equal, better funded schools will produce
better educated students. However, it's rare that all other factors
are equal. It's been said many times over that a good, motivated,
student will get a good education where ever they are, and a student
without motivation will never get a good education, regardless of
where they go to school.

My children all went to one of the poorest grade schools in town, all
except my son graduated from HS with 4.0 (he had a 3.7 - not quite as
motivated). All did well in college (son is still there), with one
attending Yale (the welcome letter to all students included a
statement about the diversity of the class, including students from
exotic places like New Zealand and Oklahoma).

On 3/6/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Andrew,

I married a local girl who attended a very rural Alabama school and her
first year of college consisted of course work she should have completed in
high school. One of my nieces attended the same school and she is currently
getting her Masters at Vanderbuilt University (Nashville, TN). On the other
hand, my nephew (her cousin) is a barely educated high school graduate from
the same system.

The difference? Not funding or "bells and whistles". My niece was in the
marching band and my nephew was a football center. But her parents expected
more than his did (remember, I know both sets of parents), and the same
pattern shows through all of their siblings! In other words, the difference
is parent's expectations and from my experience, parent's expectations are
generally lower in Alabama's rural communities. Why? Because parents in
rural Alabama tend to be less educated than parents in less rural areas.

In other words, while there is an education issue in Alabama's poorer areas,
it's due to culture and not school funding. I always find it interesting
that some always blame funding for deeply engrained social issues. I also
suspect that these same issues exist in every state in the union regardless
of the tax climate.

Required Mercedes content: My 300SDL is for sale, in case anyone's
interested in one.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:38 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

High sales tax states are both regressive in their taxing philosophy and
harsh on lower income folks.  I find it ironic that demagogic politicians
like to tout their low tax ideology while socking it to the poor by opposing
progressive taxes on income (including unearned income) while stealthily
encouraging high sales taxes that disproportionately affect the lower
classes.  Pathetically, folks in the lower classes by and large still don't
"get it" and vote for the demagogues.   Oh well...

I also find it fascinating that an educated and relatively well-off
community in the regressive (sorry, I mean "low tax") state of AL can have
its kids attend good public schools by asking parents to pony up for the
frills and bells and whistles that make an average school a great one.
Meanwhile, the kids in the poorer AL communities are enrolled in an
underfunded public school system that is not "enhanced" by such parental
largess.  You do indeed get what you pay for; it's just sad that this
concept should extend to public schooling...



On 3/5/07, Scott Ritchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> NC is OK (I moved here when I retired in 05) but NC has both sales and
> income tax.  Several other states, like FL, TX, etc, only have sales or
> income tax.
>
> NC does have the Bailey ruling, however, where some forms of federal and
> state retirement (like military) are not taxed.
>
> Scott Ritchey
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Glenn Brown
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 14:36
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State
>
> Ed,
> The old saying relating "NY, the land of taxes" is still the rule as the
> county in which I currently reside has one of the highest tax rates in the
> country.  Where I'm headed (NC), the taxes are < 1/2 of what they are
> here.
>
> G. M. Brown
> Rochester, NY
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts se

Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

[Tom Hargrave]

Don,

You are correct.

For example, Alaska has no income or sales tax because they levee so much
tax on the oil that they actually generate a surplus. This is not
necessarily a good thing because the government will get fat on excess tax &
will get into real trouble once the oil slows down.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 7:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

You have to look at the total tax load - and in some cases, that's not
simple to do.

> I'm puzzled that Nevada is not on that list, since they have no state
> income tax on either personal or corporate income.  I also thought
> they had no sales tax but looks like that is not correct.
>
> Allan
-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OSX USERS

[OK Don]

Beta vs. VHS



so you take these stories at face value and continue to suffer the
indignities of windoze.  and then you wake up one day and realize that
it is just a bunch of lies to prop up a desperately poor product.

and then you are converted.



--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] brinelling

[OK Don]

And it seems to fit the belt tensioner pivot bearing in the 60x engines.


I believe the discussion was related to wheel bearing damage in
rail-transported vehicles that were tied down too tight. And here's the 
definition:

"A form of mechanical damage in which metal is displaced or upset without
attrition. Permanent deformation of the bearing surfaces where the rollers (or
balls) contact the races.
Brinelling results from excessive load or impact on stationary bearings."

Which fits the discussion perfectly.

RLE


--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[OK Don]

From a large enterprise perspective, we have much more trouble per

user with the 10 Mac users (graphic artists) than with the other 9700
users. It's probably because the Macs are "wide open" and the PCs are
locked down. The Linux users are the most trouble though (all IT
staff).

On 3/6/07, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

nice theory, and blindly worshiping Mac-faithful (that mostly don't know
what's possible/normal in Windoze) keep spouting that to me until i
challenge them to show me how to address the issues i've highlighted...
then they usually glaze over and get either defensive or (more) sheepish
and mutter something like "well, i guess you *can't* really do that on
the Mac,..."
   i don't have any problem learning different ways to do things
(especially if they're better!); i rather relish it, as there's no way
to make progress without change. i've already done quite a bit of it and
am quite comfortable with the differences... but things like not being
able to tab through the options in a pop-up window without having to
mouse are (to me,) inexcusable.

   if you or anyone else can address any of the specific
navigation/interface issues i've raised, i'd be much appreciative (and
pleasantly surprised).


cheers!
e

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug problem

[Peter Frederick]

Sounds as if you have been converted to parallel glow plugs, and have 
one out or a blown fuse.  There is a fuse on the firewall in a small 
box on the later series glow plugs systems, and I think it stays in 
place with the parallel converstion.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] 124 mirror adjuster light bulb

[Frederick Moir]

http://www.minute-man.com/acatalog/Grain_of_Wheat_Bulbs.html
Fred Moir
Lynn MA


It's a bulb and not an LED?  Finding grain-of-wheat bulbs can
be an interesting exercise at times.

-- Jim


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


 
-
Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 07 02:41:46 2007
Received: from web35713.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.163.179.167])
by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HOm65-00034y-Ph
for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:41:46 +
Received: (qmail 78576 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2007 02:41:36 -
X-YMail-OSG: 
6LTeqPsVM1lOiJ5_QZl1JCknL5w5iaU7WUJSTMq48R2M9sfP43SdVQmIgOVpYzyTAA--
Received: from [72.70.92.101] by web35713.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:41:36 PST
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:41:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Frederick Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Unsubscribe: , 

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: , 

X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:41:46 -

Long ago and far away Road and Track did an article on the Mercedes GT (Garbage 
Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT started flawlessly this morning @ 7deg F, no block heater.(cord  gone) 

Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MB firetrucks and garbage trucks 
too. Would love to see an MB garbage truck.

Chris


 
-
8:00? 8:25? 8:40?  Find a flick in no time
 with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 07 02:44:11 2007
Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188])
by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HOm8R-0003Rp-2K
for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:44:11 +
Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a4so18762nfc
for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:44:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.82.134.12 with SMTP id h12mr8439471bud.1173235449332;
Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:44:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.82.118.1 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:44:09 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:44:09 -0600
From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Unsubscribe: , 

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: , 

X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:44:11 -

They did a locomotive once also - it cornered "as if on rails".

On 3/6/07, Frederick Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Long ago and far away Road and Track did an article on the Mercedes GT 
> (Garbage Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test.
> Fred Moir

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug problem

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Thanks Peter,

I saw that box on the firewall and then saw a picture of it on Performance
Products website, where it was labeled as glow plug fuse box or something
like that.  Because this happened suddenly and it acts differently than when
plugs were bad, I am leaning toward fuse or relay. Fellow lister John
Peterson and I will attack this on Saturday if the deep freeze lifts. Good
news is that the 300D 2.5 seems to start so easy in cold weather that it's
not a worry. I have never even plugged in the block heater on that.

Dwight

 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.

1979 240D-250K + miles

1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles

Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:02 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug problem

 

Sounds as if you have been converted to parallel glow plugs, and have 

one out or a blown fuse.  There is a fuse on the firewall in a small 

box on the later series glow plugs systems, and I think it stays in 

place with the parallel converstion.

 

Peter

 

 

___

http://www.okiebenz.com

For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan

[Tom Hargrave]

They probably really exist in Der Fatherland...

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frederick Moir
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan

Long ago and far away Road and Track did an article on the Mercedes GT
(Garbage Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT started flawlessly this morning @ 7deg F, no block heater.(cord  gone)


Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MB firetrucks and garbage
trucks too. Would love to see an MB garbage truck.

Chris


 
-
8:00? 8:25? 8:40?  Find a flick in no time
 with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug problem

[Jim Cathey]

So-it had new glow pugs two years ago-they don't have the toaster 
wires but

have red insulated wire running between them-sure looks like series to
me-given my limited knowledge of electricity.  I looked for fuse-don't 
se

any listed.


With regular insulated wires, it's likely you have a converted parallel
system.  If you had series plugs wired up without the toaster racks
they'd probably last for one or two starts before burning up.  Think
of what regular light bulbs do on 220V!

But, I am wondering- is it the relay? Or a GP failure? Why is the dash 
light

coming on when I start it and not on glow?


The light is often driven as a diagnostic measure.  But, without
knowing _exactly_ what circuit you have (and conversions are always
problematic this way) it's difficult to tell.

Fortunately the electrical diagnosis is fairly easy, for those
who know how to do it.  Step one is to see if your plugs are
getting any juice or not.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[Jim Cathey]

am quite comfortable with the differences... but things like not being
able to tab through the options in a pop-up window without having to
mouse are (to me,) inexcusable.


Which browser are you talking about?  That matters a lot.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain and related parts on 1987 300D turbo....

[Jim Cathey]

Shop is correct on when to change it, but the price should be more 
like $250.


Probably not if they assume, as is probably accurate, that they also
need to replace all the gears, guides, tensioners, and such.  Unless
you're replacing it early, they may be correct on this.  To be sure
it's going to be on the high side of pricing, that's just the
nature of the dealer beast.

Our chain got changed out at this mileage due to a startup rattle.
A tensioner and/or guide problem.  But I had the chain done too since
he was already in there.  IIRC, it was something like $550 in CdA a
couple of years ago, at a factory trained independent.

Just measure the stretch and get back to us.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[andrew strasfogel]

Should I upgrade my Compaq laptop to Vista even if it's free?

On 3/6/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> am quite comfortable with the differences... but things like not being
> able to tab through the options in a pop-up window without having to
> mouse are (to me,) inexcusable.

Which browser are you talking about?  That matters a lot.

-- Jim


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[Gary Hurst]

i wouldn't

On 3/6/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Should I upgrade my Compaq laptop to Vista even if it's free?

On 3/6/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > am quite comfortable with the differences... but things like not being
> > able to tab through the options in a pop-up window without having to
> > mouse are (to me,) inexcusable.
>
> Which browser are you talking about?  That matters a lot.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] big diesel

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:44:37 -0600 "Henry Kolesnik"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> take a look
> http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

A similar page made the rounds of the list about 1.5 years ago.

It's rather impressive, isn't it? The ships it powers are rather
impressive, too.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 23:15:22 -0500 "andrew strasfogel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Should I upgrade my Compaq laptop to Vista even if it's free?

It sounds like you would be less hesitant to "upgrade" if they charged you
for the Vista ...

If you like to be on the bleeding edge, sure, go ahead. Otherwise,
refrain.

Remember,

   A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog
   without bricks tied to its head.
  -Unknown

Craig

Re: [MBZ] more brinelling

[RELNGSON]

> <>
> 
> 
No, it does not. 

The bearing you refer to is rotating, is it not? If there is a lubrication 
failure, then the balls wear a groove in the race (which you might call 
galling) 
which is also what happens to CV joints when the grease dries out.

The example of brinelling I gave was a tied down bouncing vehicle in a rail 
car where the bearing is of course not turning but compressing and deforming 
the race by repeated impact, creating a depression which will cause noise (at 
the very least) when the vehicle is in motion. This problem was solved decades 
ago by the auto manufaturers that shipped by rail. BTW, here on the west coast, 
high end German cars are transported in enclosed trailers to avoid bullet 
holes. At least MB and Porsche. Don't know about BMW.

RLE
> 
> 




**
 AOL now offers free email to everyone. 
 Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] more brinelling

[Jim Cathey]

The bearing you refer to is rotating, is it not?


No, it is not.  The main bearing is what the tensioner arm pivots
around, it rotates no more than an elbow does, rarely as much as
1/8" at a time (displacement at the idler wheel).  The idler wheel
bearing spins normally.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 124 mirror adjuster light bulb

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 3/5/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Just disassembled the little joystick in the center console that
> controls
> the passenger side rear view mirror hoping to change the bulb.  (I'm
> on a

It's a bulb and not an LED?  Finding grain-of-wheat bulbs can
be an interesting exercise at times.



I thought it was an LED at first, but close examination shows a tiny
filament inside (broken, of course).  The bulbs in the link Fred posted look
good, but I have some little LEDs lying around and there's room for a
resistor in series to drop the 12V down to something manageable.  Sound like
a good idea?

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[Alex Chamberlain]

Huh?  What "other features"?

On 3/6/07, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


of course, both of these ASSuME that you're not using the other features
that the Function buttons default to (which i prefer and use all the
time).

but neither of these functions is an item of contention for me; i
want to be able to pull-down the menus!   ;-*


cheers!
e


Ed Booher wrote:
> On 3/6/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ctrl-F2 - Highlights the Apple Menu, from there you can cursor to the
>> menu you need.
>>
>> Ed
> Ctrl-F3 - Highlight the Dock, can start any app in the dock this way.
>

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[ernest breakfield]

from F1 to F7:
screen dimmer
screen brighter
mute
volume lower
volume higher
number lock
monitor switch
(not sure what F8 does; i don't see it do anything.)
from F9 to F12
shrink and show all windows
shrink to show all windows in the current application
hide all windows to show desktop
show widgets (currently calendar, weather, clock, and calculator)


cheers!
e


Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Huh?  What "other features"?

On 3/6/07, *ernest breakfield* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


of course, both of these ASSuME that you're not using the other
features
that the Function buttons default to (which i prefer and use all
the time).

but neither of these functions is an item of contention for me; i
want to be able to pull-down the menus!   ;-*


cheers!
e


Ed Booher wrote:
> On 3/6/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Ctrl-F2 - Highlights the Apple Menu, from there you can cursor
to the
>> menu you need.
>>
>> Ed
> Ctrl-F3 - Highlight the Dock, can start any app in the dock this
way.
>

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[ernest breakfield]

hasn't seemed to make any difference which browser i've used (Safari, 
Firefox or Explorer), but that doesn't really matter anyway as it's not 
just browsers that i'm talking about.
   if i get a dialog box in *any* application, i should be able to 
'Tab' between the buttons that are offered as choices without being 
forced to leave the keyboard and resort to the mouse or trackpad.



cheers!
e


Jim Cathey wrote:

am quite comfortable with the differences... but things like not being
able to tab through the options in a pop-up window without having to
mouse are (to me,) inexcusable.


Which browser are you talking about?  That matters a lot.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 124 mirror adjuster light bulb

[Jim Cathey]

good, but I have some little LEDs lying around and there's room for a
resistor in series to drop the 12V down to something manageable.


Might work well there, as you're only trying to light up a
little spot rather than a large field.  LED's are highly directional.
An LED may not dim like the incandescent lamp, but what have
you got to lose?  Just be sure to dial in the resistor in the
dark so the intensity matches the other controls.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[Zoltan Finks]

This is the most disappointing thing I've heard yet about the engineering of
these vehicles. Why such a blunder?

Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?

The 123s are better on this I hope?

One thing that makes me fond of a vehicle is the notion that every detail
was intentionally designed with intelligence and for the good of the user.

Brian
83 240D


On 3/6/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I did the fan through the speaker hole trick, but it was a long time
ago - I don't remember the details. I also replaced one per the manual
- complete dash R&R. That one took 26-28 hours, through the speaker
hole only took 10 hours or so. I do remember removing a lot under the
dash, the center console, and the speaker. Once I had the fan loose, I
kept cutting the hole until the fan came out. I do remember using a
piece of wire to fish the wire connector from the far left corner
under the windshield. Attach the wire/string to the old connector
before pulling the old fan out. I used forceps to keep the connector
from falling before I got the string/wire tied to it.

On 3/5/07, Stuart Saxonberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The fan on my 115's dead, too.
>
> Contemplating a R+R this summer. Someone said previously, like a year or
two
> ago, that one way involves cutting out around the center dash speaker
(just
> enough to let you rest the grill back on the hole), to facilitate
removal
> from above.
>
> Anyone remember more details or have a writeup? (Heck, I never did get
the
> EPC working. I'd kill for the DIAGRAM of the heating system alone. Seems
a
> lot more complex than it needs to be, especially compared to my Toyota
p/u.)
>

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

[Jeff Zedic]

By the way, on the news last night there was a segment, very brief, about a
Bugatti Veyron.

Some local smacked his up! They showed the video of it being loaded onto a
flat bed truck. Not sure what happened but he damaged the front wheel, hood,
fender, bumper cover and fender liner as far as I could see.

Similar colour scheme to the one I saw..could've been it

Jeff Zedic

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug problem

[degcoast]

Thanks Jim
I think you are right-I have a converted parallel system. Will start with that 
separate fuse box on the firewall.  Weekend project when it warms up.  
Dwight
 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > So-it had new glow pugs two years ago-they don't have the toaster 
> > wires but
> > have red insulated wire running between them-sure looks like series to
> > me-given my limited knowledge of electricity.  I looked for fuse-don't 
> > se
> > any listed.
> 
> With regular insulated wires, it's likely you have a converted parallel
> system.  If you had series plugs wired up without the toaster racks
> they'd probably last for one or two starts before burning up.  Think
> of what regular light bulbs do on 220V!
> 
> > But, I am wondering- is it the relay? Or a GP failure? Why is the dash 
> > light
> > coming on when I start it and not on glow?
> 
> The light is often driven as a diagnostic measure.  But, without
> knowing _exactly_ what circuit you have (and conversions are always
> problematic this way) it's difficult to tell.
> 
> Fortunately the electrical diagnosis is fairly easy, for those
> who know how to do it.  Step one is to see if your plugs are
> getting any juice or not.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

--
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co.
Wickford, RI

Re: [MBZ] big diesel

[Rich Thomas]

What is the best oil to use in it?

--R
  

Re: [MBZ] 124 mirror adjuster light bulb

[Rich Thomas]

I bought a couple of 12V LEDs at the local electronics toyshop, you can 
find those and just put one in.


--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

good, but I have some little LEDs lying around and there's room for a
resistor in series to drop the 12V down to something manageable.



  

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan

[Christopher McCann]

The Sindelfingen plant, where the vast majority of our cars were built, built 
airplane engines during the war. Got the shit bombed out of it too. At least it 
wasn't disassmbled and taken as reparations as a few BMW plants were. That was 
mostly the owrk of the Soviets and prolly the French too. Americans were far 
more interested in taking INFORMATION/RESEARCH/SCIENTISTS. MB also made a few 
other light armored troop carriers.

And Engines for boats too, of course. The idea behind the three pointed star 
(Daimler) was engines for land, sea and air. At first, people could not 
comprehend ANY usefulness for a car - that's what horses were for But the 
motor boat caught on immediately.

Chris


OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They did a locomotive once also - it cornered 
"as if on rails".

On 3/6/07, Frederick Moir  wrote:
> Long ago and far away Road and Track did an article on the Mercedes GT 
> (Garbage Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test.
> Fred Moir

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com
"Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht!"
-2006 GSD, "Anke" (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz)
-2006 GSD, "Sammy" (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz)
"Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz."
-1985 300SD, 220K miles, "Wulf"
-1982 300Dt, 117K miles, "little blue klatter box"
 
-
Bored stiff? Loosen up...
Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 07 13:44:12 2007
Received: from web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.19])
by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HOwR9-0003In-K4
for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:44:12 +
Received: (qmail 95146 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2007 13:44:05 -
X-YMail-OSG: 
SOK9CCkVM1meab4gDtEk72qBlLFBWLWSfqZ85emIVSSPISdcxxoc16a0OUYexaJ4MNfWsUQhgCGqch74N_ZC5yR2KvtlN7RwyoS9uw0oXfNnmey2.pCTvAzQ7jlgTQAqJEDHFlZwj4wOPQN2ZZnqQQFQZg--
Received: from [24.123.111.98] by web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:44:05 PST
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 05:44:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2
Subject: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug
(garbage collection truck).
X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Unsubscribe: , 

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: , 

X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:44:12 -

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/ContentFilesMantel/Bilder_Fahrzeuge/muellfahrzeug_gr.jpg&imgrefurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/Content.aspx%3Fmpid%3D53%26ch%3D3&h=168&w=267&sz=17&hl=de&start=1&tbnid=4uwL8l00shkFEM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=113&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmercedes%2Babfall%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN

THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck).

COOL!

Chris



Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They probably really exist in Der 
Fatherland...

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frederick Moir
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan

Long ago and far away Road and Track did an article on the Mercedes GT
(Garbage Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT started flawlessly this morning @ 7deg F, no block heater.(cord  gone)


Christopher McCann  wrote: MB firetrucks and garbage
trucks too. Would love to see an MB garbage truck.

Chris


 
-
8:00? 8:25? 8:40?  Find a flick in no time
 with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
___

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug(garbage collection truck).

[Mike Canfield]

WOW!  Look at the size of that windshield!!!  That's alot of glass!

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB 
Muellsammelfahrzeug(garbage collection truck).




http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/ContentFilesMantel/Bilder_Fahrzeuge/muellfahrzeug_gr.jpg&imgrefurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/Content.aspx%3Fmpid%3D53%26ch%3D3&h=168&w=267&sz=17&hl=de&start=1&tbnid=4uwL8l00shkFEM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=113&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmercedes%2Babfall%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN

THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck).

COOL!

Chris



Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They probably really exist in 
Der Fatherland...


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frederick Moir
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan

Long ago and far away Road and Track did an article on the Mercedes GT
(Garbage Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT started flawlessly this morning @ 7deg F, no block heater.(cord 
gone)



Christopher McCann  wrote: MB firetrucks and garbage
trucks too. Would love to see an MB garbage truck.

Chris



-
8:00? 8:25? 8:40?  Find a flick in no time
with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com
"Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht!"
-2006 GSD, "Anke" (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz)
-2006 GSD, "Sammy" (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz)
"Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz."
-1985 300SD, 220K miles, "Wulf"
-1982 300Dt, 117K miles, "little blue klatter box"

-
We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love
(and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] big diesel

[BillR]

The scary thing for me is that made sense.
BillR
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] big diesel



Well, surely you must use a full synthetic oil.  An engine of that sort
would require use of the last drop of dinosaur compost.  This would create 
a

terrible war, over which everyone's opinion would differ.  The hot tempers
would lead to global warming and then, but only then, the temperatures 
would

rise enough in OK to get Kaleb aroused and boot us bandwidth wasters off
this list.

MBZ content?  Who needs that?  We ARE talking about oil after
all...ErrrWhat were we talking about?

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] big diesel



What is the best oil to use in it?

--R





___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Venture Capitalists Want to Put Some Algae in Your Tank

[Rich Thomas]

Perhaps we can get a VC guy to fund our diesel Benz habits, which seem 
prone to doing this without any major investments?


--R

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/business/07algae.html?_r=1&ref=science&oref=slogin 

Re: [MBZ] big diesel

[Rich Thomas]

What weight?

--R

BillR wrote:

The scary thing for me is that made sense.
BillR
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] big diesel


  

Well, surely you must use a full synthetic oil.  An engine of that sort
would require use of the last drop of dinosaur compost.  This would create 
a

terrible war, over which everyone's opinion would differ.  The hot tempers
would lead to global warming and then, but only then, the temperatures 
would

rise enough in OK to get Kaleb aroused and boot us bandwidth wasters off
this list.

MBZ content?  Who needs that?  We ARE talking about oil after
all...ErrrWhat were we talking about?

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] big diesel




What is the best oil to use in it?

--R
  
___

http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

  


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com






___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


  

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[Gary Thompson]

Being an owner of a W124 with a bad evaporator, I'd put this right up
there with the W115 blower. Book time 14-16 hours.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 3/7/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is the most disappointing thing I've heard yet about the engineering of
these vehicles. Why such a blunder?

Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?

The 123s are better on this I hope?

One thing that makes me fond of a vehicle is the notion that every detail
was intentionally designed with intelligence and for the good of the user.

Brian
83 240D

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug(garbage collection truck).

[John Robbins]

Mike Canfield wrote:

WOW!  Look at the size of that windshield!!!  That's alot of glass!
  

I think that windshield costs more than a lot of our cars!!!

John

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan

[Jim Cathey]

(Daimler) was engines for land, sea and air. At first, people could 
not comprehend ANY usefulness for a car - that's what horses were 
for But the motor boat caught on immediately.


Yeah, the whole sea horse thing just wasn't working out.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 124 mirror adjuster light bulb

[Jim Cathey]

I bought a couple of 12V LEDs at the local electronics toyshop, you can
find those and just put one in.


I'd recommend a regular one.  Cheaper, and you can adjust the
maximum brightness with the (required) resistor.

I took apart the Alpine in my wife's SL because the stinking
button lights were way too bright for nighttime.  I slipped
a sheet of exposed film leader in there to dim it down.
Much better!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[Jim Cathey]

This is the most disappointing thing I've heard yet about the 
engineering of

these vehicles. Why such a blunder?


They made a few, anything deep in the dash, in pretty much any car,
is a royal PITA to get at.


Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?


On that one, yes.  Oh, and the piston rings are a bit
hard to get to as well.


The 123s are better on this I hope?


Yes, blower replacement on 123, 126, and 107 is nearly trivial
in comparison.  The one saving grace about dead 114/115 fans is
that the car actually has pretty good flow-through ventilation.
Except for initial defrosting, or long stops at lights on very
cold days, I never run the fan on mine at all.

One thing that makes me fond of a vehicle is the notion that every 
detail
was intentionally designed with intelligence and for the good of the 
user.


Blower motors were not designed to be user-replaceable!  Mostly it
is (was?) as you say, but nobody bats 1000.

I also have the sneaking suspicion that blower replacement on
a non-AC 115 (such as the Frankenheap) is a _whole_ lot easier.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[OK Don]

I like it, but have had some memory hoging problems with E.I. 7 on it
with lots of tabs open for days. Drivers are still in limited supply,
as is the list of certified applications. If you want to play with it
rather than depend on it, yes. If you need the laptop to do stuff, not
yet.

On 3/6/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Should I upgrade my Compaq laptop to Vista even if it's free?



--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[BillR]

At the end of a 2 hour attempt to pull a cotter pin on my '62 Alfa I was 
ready to strangle any Italian or designer I could find - and being somewhat 
verbal about it.  My roommate's visitor came by and took it rather 
personally.  He designed control panels for nuclear ships.  He made 
apologies for designers in general, but also tried to describe the 
difficulty of getting every bolt and screw of every part to be easily 
accessable.  I think on the whole they do pretty well, but there are always 
a few troublesome items that are not discovered until built.  Best you can 
hope for is that they change it soon, and don't mess up something else in 
the process.

BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD  285k miles
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR



This is the most disappointing thing I've heard yet about the
engineering of
these vehicles. Why such a blunder?


They made a few, anything deep in the dash, in pretty much any car,
is a royal PITA to get at.


Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?


On that one, yes.  Oh, and the piston rings are a bit
hard to get to as well.


The 123s are better on this I hope?


Yes, blower replacement on 123, 126, and 107 is nearly trivial
in comparison.  The one saving grace about dead 114/115 fans is
that the car actually has pretty good flow-through ventilation.
Except for initial defrosting, or long stops at lights on very
cold days, I never run the fan on mine at all.


One thing that makes me fond of a vehicle is the notion that every
detail
was intentionally designed with intelligence and for the good of the
user.


Blower motors were not designed to be user-replaceable!  Mostly it
is (was?) as you say, but nobody bats 1000.

I also have the sneaking suspicion that blower replacement on
a non-AC 115 (such as the Frankenheap) is a _whole_ lot easier.

-- Jim


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] SDL for sale was almost makes me want . . .

[LarryT]

Where located, what ext. color and how much?

Thx -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for sale was almost makes me want . . .



Just short of 300,000 miles on the car.
Rebuilt transmission - last year.
Low mileage rear end installed the year before.
Has leaky head gasket but been leaky for the last 150K miles. I planned on
replacing it when it got worse but it has not gotten worse yet. I keep 
stuff

in the radiator (Dyke) that keeps the symptoms away.
Left, front caliper binds some.

Please call with questions.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Donald Snook
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for sale was almost makes me want . . .

Required Mercedes content: My 300SDL is for sale, in case anyone's
interested in one.



Can you provide more information?   Year, Condition, price, etc.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 135K

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 16, Issue 27

[Stuart Saxonberg]

I hear it's a relatively trivial replacement under/behind the glovebox, on a
w123 - never owned one, so can't say from experience.

In Mercedes' defense, the heater fan on my '76 worked until this winter - 30
years. 

(I also hear, but have no direct experience, that the w108 chassis is the
same way regarding the HVAC design.)

Stuart S.
76 300D w115


Zoltan Finks said:

This is the most disappointing thing I've heard yet about the engineering of
these vehicles. Why such a blunder?

Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?

The 123s are better on this I hope?

One thing that makes me fond of a vehicle is the notion that every detail
was intentionally designed with intelligence and for the good of the user.

Brian
83 240D

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[andrew strasfogel]

Legend has it that Mercedes built a blower motor that nobody would buy, so
they decided to build a W115 300D around it.  The cars sold like hotcakes,
but it was darned hard to get at the blower motor when it died.



On 3/7/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At the end of a 2 hour attempt to pull a cotter pin on my '62 Alfa I was
ready to strangle any Italian or designer I could find - and being
somewhat
verbal about it.  My roommate's visitor came by and took it rather
personally.  He designed control panels for nuclear ships.  He made
apologies for designers in general, but also tried to describe the
difficulty of getting every bolt and screw of every part to be easily
accessable.  I think on the whole they do pretty well, but there are
always
a few troublesome items that are not discovered until built.  Best you can
hope for is that they change it soon, and don't mess up something else in
the process.
BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD  285k miles
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR


>> This is the most disappointing thing I've heard yet about the
>> engineering of
>> these vehicles. Why such a blunder?
>
> They made a few, anything deep in the dash, in pretty much any car,
> is a royal PITA to get at.
>
>> Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?
>
> On that one, yes.  Oh, and the piston rings are a bit
> hard to get to as well.
>
>> The 123s are better on this I hope?
>
> Yes, blower replacement on 123, 126, and 107 is nearly trivial
> in comparison.  The one saving grace about dead 114/115 fans is
> that the car actually has pretty good flow-through ventilation.
> Except for initial defrosting, or long stops at lights on very
> cold days, I never run the fan on mine at all.
>
>> One thing that makes me fond of a vehicle is the notion that every
>> detail
>> was intentionally designed with intelligence and for the good of the
>> user.
>
> Blower motors were not designed to be user-replaceable!  Mostly it
> is (was?) as you say, but nobody bats 1000.
>
> I also have the sneaking suspicion that blower replacement on
> a non-AC 115 (such as the Frankenheap) is a _whole_ lot easier.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>



___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 3/7/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> The 123s are better on this I hope?

Yes, blower replacement on 123, 126, and 107 is nearly trivial
in comparison.



Almost trivial on the 124 too (unless you crack the windshield getting the
wiper motor back in---BTDT).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] WAS Mercedes Digest, Vol 16, Issue 27 NOW W123 300D combination gauge fix

[andrew strasfogel]

The clock in the combination gauge (clock + tach) on our 1985 300CD stopped
working.  Supposedly this is easy to repair, but it would be even easier if
I could simply swap it with a working clock from another combination gauge.
I can't replace the gauge itself unless I find one from an '85 model because
the tach is different starting in 1985.  If I knew it was a relatively
simple matter just to replace just the clock then any comb. gauge with a
working clock would suffice.

So, does anyone know whether is it possible to remove and pop in a
replacement clock into the gauge without a lot of hassle?

Andrew
1985 300CD
1983 300TD
On 3/7/07, Stuart Saxonberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I hear it's a relatively trivial replacement under/behind the glovebox, on
a
w123 - never owned one, so can't say from experience.

In Mercedes' defense, the heater fan on my '76 worked until this winter -
30
years.

(I also hear, but have no direct experience, that the w108 chassis is the
same way regarding the HVAC design.)

   Stuart S.
   76 300D w115


Zoltan Finks said:

This is the most disappointing thing I've heard yet about the engineering
of
these vehicles. Why such a blunder?

Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?

The 123s are better on this I hope?

One thing that makes me fond of a vehicle is the notion that every detail
was intentionally designed with intelligence and for the good of the user.

Brian
83 240D




___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[Alex Chamberlain]

Sure, I use those too, but they don't conflict with the Ctrl functions to
run the menus from the keyboard that Ed mentioned.  Admittedly having to
cursor over and down to the menu item you want is not quite as fast as the
Windows way of Alt-, but it's an improvement over Mac OS
9, which had no provisions for menu navigation with the keyboard at all
(unless there was a Command-key equivalent for the item you wanted).

For really flexible keyboard control of the Mac, check out QuicKeys (
www.cesoft.com).

On 3/6/07, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


from F1 to F7:
screen dimmer
screen brighter
mute
volume lower
volume higher
number lock
monitor switch
(not sure what F8 does; i don't see it do anything.)
from F9 to F12
shrink and show all windows
shrink to show all windows in the current application
hide all windows to show desktop
show widgets (currently calendar, weather, clock, and calculator)


cheers!
e


Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> Huh?  What "other features"?
>
> On 3/6/07, *ernest breakfield* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> of course, both of these ASSuME that you're not using the other
> features
> that the Function buttons default to (which i prefer and use all
> the time).
>
> but neither of these functions is an item of contention for me;
i
> want to be able to pull-down the menus!   ;-*
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> Ed Booher wrote:
> > On 3/6/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> >> Ctrl-F2 - Highlights the Apple Menu, from there you can cursor
> to the
> >> menu you need.
> >>
> >> Ed
> > Ctrl-F3 - Highlight the Dock, can start any app in the dock this
> way.

Re: [MBZ] 124 mirror adjuster light bulb

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 3/7/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I took apart the Alpine in my wife's SL because the stinking
button lights were way too bright for nighttime.  I slipped
a sheet of exposed film leader in there to dim it down.
Much better!



Ooh, good idea.  I just had to replace two out of four of the console window
switches in my car and the replacements from Rusty seem about an order of
magnitude brighter than the old ones---very distracting.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] OT Re: OSX users

[ernest breakfield]

QuicKeys; interesting stuff, thanks.
   too bad you have to pay a 3rd party for something like that (and 
then pay them again at every upgrade)!



cheers!
e


Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Sure, I use those too, but they don't conflict with the Ctrl functions to
run the menus from the keyboard that Ed mentioned.  Admittedly having to
cursor over and down to the menu item you want is not quite as fast as the
Windows way of Alt-, but it's an improvement over Mac OS
9, which had no provisions for menu navigation with the keyboard at all
(unless there was a Command-key equivalent for the item you wanted).

For really flexible keyboard control of the Mac, check out QuicKeys (
www.cesoft.com).

On 3/6/07, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

from F1 to F7:
screen dimmer
screen brighter
mute
volume lower
volume higher
number lock
monitor switch
(not sure what F8 does; i don't see it do anything.)
from F9 to F12
shrink and show all windows
shrink to show all windows in the current application
hide all windows to show desktop
show widgets (currently calendar, weather, clock, and calculator)


cheers!
e


Alex Chamberlain wrote:


Huh?  What "other features"?

On 3/6/07, *ernest breakfield* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

of course, both of these ASSuME that you're not using the other
features
that the Function buttons default to (which i prefer and use all
the time).

but neither of these functions is an item of contention for me;
  

i


want to be able to pull-down the menus!   ;-*


cheers!
e


Ed Booher wrote:
> On 3/6/07, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Ctrl-F2 - Highlights the Apple Menu, from there you can cursor
to the
>> menu you need.
>>
>> Ed
> Ctrl-F3 - Highlight the Dock, can start any app in the dock this
way.
  

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


  

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[R A Bennell]

-Original Message-

Legend has it that Mercedes built a blower motor that nobody would buy, so
they decided to build a W115 300D around it.  The cars sold like hotcakes,
but it was darned hard to get at the blower motor when it died.



> >> Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?
> >
> > Yes, blower replacement on 123, 126, and 107 is nearly trivial
> > in comparison.  The one saving grace about dead 114/115 fans is
> > that the car actually has pretty good flow-through ventilation.
> > Except for initial defrosting, or long stops at lights on very
> > cold days, I never run the fan on mine at all.
> >
> >
> > I also have the sneaking suspicion that blower replacement on
> > a non-AC 115 (such as the Frankenheap) is a _whole_ lot easier.
> >
> > -- Jim


Well, I have a 115 and I have not yet had to replace the blower motor. However, 
I cannot believe that owners would
dump the car rather than replace the blower motor. No matter how hard it is or 
how long it takes, I would tackle
it.

Anyone who isn't willing and wishes to dump their decent non rusty 115 should 
call me. I will see if I can find
some more parking spots to store all of these old gems.

Randy (with tongue in cheek, I guess)

PS - from personal experience I can tell you it is not much easier on a lot of 
late model vehicles. A heater core
on a Taurus or F150 is a MAJOR undertaking.

Re: [MBZ] big diesel

[R A Bennell]

I hear that Jim Cathey is looking for one to power a generator.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Henry Kolesnik
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:45 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] big diesel


take a look
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] ACC cycles thru all speeds

[Allan Streib]

Last night, on the way home, when the heat first came on (a minute or
two after starting the car) the ACC stepped quickly up to maximim
blower speed and then stepped quickly back down to the blower being
completely off.

In another minute or so the blower reactivated and functioned normally
thereafter.

I've never experienced this before and wonder if it indicates anything
might be wrong...

Allan
--
1983 300D
1966 230

Re: [MBZ] OT- Jim Cathey respond

[Redghost]

That is too bad.  He was after a 400v? aviation genset

On Mar 5, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/zip/288982767.html
This guy is looking for some goodies you have


Listing was removed already.

-- Jim


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] weather bothers

[Redghost]

Seattle proper has not had tornado/twister, but I remember one or two 
touching down and doing damage in outlying areas.  Nothing like the 
monster twisters in the midwest, no real weather to make those here



On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>


We have never had either in Seattle. But, somebody has to live in those
places and I'd like to thank both of you for doing so.

RLE





**
 AOL now offers free email to everyone.
 Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] big diesel

[Redghost]

Every time I see that, I think back to the "Land of the Giants" TV show

On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Henry Kolesnik wrote:


take a look
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] weather bothers

[LT Don]

You guys have something even more dangerous to ones health than a tornado --
potato skins!

On 3/7/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Seattle proper has not had tornado/twister, but I remember one or two
touching down and doing damage in outlying areas.  Nothing like the
monster twisters in the midwest, no real weather to make those here


On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> <> hurricane
>> where you live is like me saying I've lived in Iowa for the last
>> decade and
>> never had a tornado>>
>>
> We have never had either in Seattle. But, somebody has to live in those
> places and I'd like to thank both of you for doing so.
>
> RLE
>
>
>
>
>
> **
>  AOL now offers free email to everyone.
>  Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>


--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[Redghost]

These whiners!  The blower is a simple two man three day job.  Granted 
you have to take the car completely apart, but this way you have access 
to everything and can R&R the whole car in the process.  No sense 
returning broken parts to the car.  It does take a large order to 
Rusty, so do a thorough inventory of all broken parts before you begin, 
then after you are into it, place another order for all those parts 
that broke in the process.


I find a final order once you are done is great to replace all the 
items (windshield, dash, knobs, screws) you lost of broke in rebuilding


On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:51 AM, R A Bennell wrote:



-Original Message-

Legend has it that Mercedes built a blower motor that nobody would 
buy, so
they decided to build a W115 300D around it.  The cars sold like 
hotcakes,

but it was darned hard to get at the blower motor when it died.




Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?


Yes, blower replacement on 123, 126, and 107 is nearly trivial
in comparison.  The one saving grace about dead 114/115 fans is
that the car actually has pretty good flow-through ventilation.
Except for initial defrosting, or long stops at lights on very
cold days, I never run the fan on mine at all.


I also have the sneaking suspicion that blower replacement on
a non-AC 115 (such as the Frankenheap) is a _whole_ lot easier.

-- Jim



Well, I have a 115 and I have not yet had to replace the blower motor. 
However, I cannot believe that owners would
dump the car rather than replace the blower motor. No matter how hard 
it is or how long it takes, I would tackle

it.

Anyone who isn't willing and wishes to dump their decent non rusty 115 
should call me. I will see if I can find

some more parking spots to store all of these old gems.

Randy (with tongue in cheek, I guess)

PS - from personal experience I can tell you it is not much easier on 
a lot of late model vehicles. A heater core

on a Taurus or F150 is a MAJOR undertaking.



___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

[MBZ] New GM diesel

[RELNGSON]

 GENEVA: VM Motori cooperation gives GM new V6 turbodiesel

General Motors is at last apparently getting serious about diesels for its 
American cars sold in Europe.
To be fair, it does have a four-cylinder diesel option for its Europe-only 
BLS but that is just a rebodied Saab 9-3 and not, as some purists might argue, 
a 
'real Cadillac.'
So, somewhat lost amongst all the talk of Chrysler sales, CO2 
emissions limits and sporty hybrids, the automaker launched a new 2.9 liter V6 
turbodiesel 
with the latest injection and combustion technology for minimum emissions and 
maximum performance.
The new 184 kW/250 hp engine will be sold mainly sold in Europe and is 
scheduled to appear first in the 2009 Cadillac CTS.
"We expect the V6 diesel to be highly competitive in the European luxury 
segment," said general manager Jim Taylor. "With its excellent low-end 
torque and 
its high power output, it is a great fit with Cadillac's performance-oriented 
brand character."
The compact dual overhead cam, four-valve V6 belongs to a new GM family of 
diesel engines, featuring an innovative closed-loop combustion control system 
designed to meet future emissions standards. The engine can be installed in a 
longitudinal or transverse layout and can be adapted to a wide range of two-or 
four-wheel drive vehicles.
GM's development of the new engine is being coordinated under the leadership 
of GM Powertrain's European operations in Turin, Italy, in cooperation with VM 
Motori based in Cento, Italy.
GM ended a similar arrangement with Fiat some time ago but engines from that 
cooperation will be available in both automakers' ranges for some time yet.
Under the newer deal, GM Powertrain will focus on the development of the 
clean combustion process, electronic engine control and exhaust gas 
after-treatment, as well as calibration and integration for GM vehicles.
VM Motori will build the new unit at its plant in Cento, and is responsible 
for the mechanical aspects of the engine's design, development and bench 
testing.
"The V6 diesel integrates leading technologies and will deliver outstanding 
performance, fuel economy and low emissions," said GM Powertrain Europe vice 
president Roger Johansson.
The V6 engine management system enables optimal fuel economy as well as 
reduced emissions and noise by using recently developed combustion control 
technology.
Key to the system are high speed piezo-resistive cylinder pressure sensors 
that are integrated within the engine glow-plugs. These specialized sensors 
acquire real-time data from the combustion process, enabling instantaneous 
fine-tuning of the fuel injection process. In the future, this clean combustion 
control technology will be introduced in other GM Powertrain diesel engines.
The high-pressure, common-rail system provides up to 2000 bar (29,000 psi) 
injection pressure. The injectors are quick-firing piezo-electrically actuated, 
allowing up to eight injections per engine cycle. The after-treatment system 
includes an oxidation catalyst and a particulate filter that are close coupled 
to the engine to achieve future emissions standards.
An electronically controlled variable geometry turbocharger generates boost 
pressure. The engine has a torque of 550 Nm (406 lb-ft) beginning at 2000 rpm, 
while providing effective fuel economy and reduced emissions.
The new, compact engine has aluminum cylinder heads and a 60 degree bank 
angle, and 83.0 mm bore and 90.4 mm stroke, for a displacement of 2,935 cubic 
centimeters. The engine block is made of stronger and lighter compacted 
graphite 
iron (as compared to lower strength aluminum or heavier gray cast iron) to 
optimize engine packaging, weight, refinement and performance.



**
 AOL now offers free email to everyone. 
 Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] weather bothers

[andrew strasfogel]

Seattle also had endless rains and terrible flooding this past year.  This
and other recent storms to hit the Pac. NW seem to have been caused by - I
am not making this up - air pollution from China.

On 3/7/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You guys have something even more dangerous to ones health than a tornado
--
potato skins!

On 3/7/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Seattle proper has not had tornado/twister, but I remember one or two
> touching down and doing damage in outlying areas.  Nothing like the
> monster twisters in the midwest, no real weather to make those here
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> < >> hurricane
> >> where you live is like me saying I've lived in Iowa for the last
> >> decade and
> >> never had a tornado>>
> >>
> > We have never had either in Seattle. But, somebody has to live in
those
> > places and I'd like to thank both of you for doing so.
> >
> > RLE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> >  AOL now offers free email to everyone.
> >  Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Clay
> Seattle Bioburner
>
> 1972 220D - Gump
> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
> The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>



--
I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

[andrew strasfogel]

You will also find loose change under the dash that will defray your cost
for P&L.

On 3/7/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


These whiners!  The blower is a simple two man three day job.  Granted
you have to take the car completely apart, but this way you have access
to everything and can R&R the whole car in the process.  No sense
returning broken parts to the car.  It does take a large order to
Rusty, so do a thorough inventory of all broken parts before you begin,
then after you are into it, place another order for all those parts
that broke in the process.

I find a final order once you are done is great to replace all the
items (windshield, dash, knobs, screws) you lost of broke in rebuilding

On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:51 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

>
> -Original Message-
>
> Legend has it that Mercedes built a blower motor that nobody would
> buy, so
> they decided to build a W115 300D around it.  The cars sold like
> hotcakes,
> but it was darned hard to get at the blower motor when it died.
>
>
>
 Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes?
>>>
>>> Yes, blower replacement on 123, 126, and 107 is nearly trivial
>>> in comparison.  The one saving grace about dead 114/115 fans is
>>> that the car actually has pretty good flow-through ventilation.
>>> Except for initial defrosting, or long stops at lights on very
>>> cold days, I never run the fan on mine at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> I also have the sneaking suspicion that blower replacement on
>>> a non-AC 115 (such as the Frankenheap) is a _whole_ lot easier.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>
>
> Well, I have a 115 and I have not yet had to replace the blower motor.
> However, I cannot believe that owners would
> dump the car rather than replace the blower motor. No matter how hard
> it is or how long it takes, I would tackle
> it.
>
> Anyone who isn't willing and wishes to dump their decent non rusty 115
> should call me. I will see if I can find
> some more parking spots to store all of these old gems.
>
> Randy (with tongue in cheek, I guess)
>
> PS - from personal experience I can tell you it is not much easier on
> a lot of late model vehicles. A heater core
> on a Taurus or F150 is a MAJOR undertaking.
>
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>


--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] bearing?

[RELNGSON]

> < around, it rotates no more than an elbow does, rarely as much as
> 1/8" at a time (displacement at the idler wheel).  The idler wheel
> bearing spins normally.>.
> 

Is that a bearing or a bushing, then?

RLE


**
 AOL now offers free email to 
everyone.  Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] Tornados and hurricanes

[RELNGSON]

> < touching down and doing damage in outlying areas.  Nothing like the
> monster twisters in the midwest, no real weather to make those here>>
> 
For one thing, we have fewer trailer parks to attract them.

RLE
> 
> 
> 




**
 AOL now offers free email to everyone. 
 Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] weather bothers

[Werner Fehlauer]

Andrew - I didn't know you were a member of the Seattle KBO club!  The 
spreading of the myth that it rains all the time in Seattle should keep you 
in good standing!
And all the time I thought the flooding was being caused by burning all that 
old veggie oil in the older M-B cars


Werner;-)))


- Original Message - 
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] weather bothers



Seattle also had endless rains and terrible flooding this past year.  This
and other recent storms to hit the Pac. NW seem to have been caused by - I
am not making this up - air pollution from China.

On 3/7/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You guys have something even more dangerous to ones health than a tornado
--
potato skins!

On 3/7/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Seattle proper has not had tornado/twister, but I remember one or two
> touching down and doing damage in outlying areas.  Nothing like the
> monster twisters in the midwest, no real weather to make those here

Re: [MBZ] Seattle weather

[RELNGSON]

> < This
> and other recent storms to hit the Pac. NW seem to have been caused by - I
> am not making this up - air pollution from China.>>
> 
Absolutely. Please do not move here.

Temp in the high 60s yesterday. Mowed the lawn for the first time. Everything 
is budding. Replanted 35 Irises. 

Ordered two sets of Bridgestones from Tire Rack last week and had them 
mounted. 

RLE





**
 AOL now offers free email to everyone. 
 Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

[MBZ] ACC cycles thru all speeds

[Glenn Brown]

Allan,
I'm presuming your question relates to your '83 300D?  If so, you may have
seen the start of problems with the overly complex MB ACC system and its
infamous electronic modules.  Since the ACC pushbutton unit in the center
dash console sort of "directs traffic" (flow, etc.) and the ACC amp, up
behind the glove box, sorts out the logic stuff, I'm guessing that your
problem may be electrical connection integrity.  Probably the easiest thing
to check first is to unplug and replug the main plug to the back/side of the
ACC PB unit to see if this helps.  If the problem persists, you may need to
go through the resoldering procedure of the PC board in this unit.  This has
been talked about numerous times in the past and J. Cathey can explain it in
detail if you're so inclined.  Good luck.

G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck).

[John M McIntosh]

Ha, has to be gemany, 4 guys in the cab, here the local privately run  
collector runs

a truck like that with *one* person.


On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Christopher McCann wrote:

THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck).

COOL!

Chris

John
1983 300TDt  385k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan

[Loren Faeth]

Actually it is "if  you live anywhere BUT North America

At 10:56 AM 3/6/2007, you wrote:

MB has a bunch of minivans - if you live in Europe.


Loren Faeth 

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug(garbage collection truck).

[Loren Faeth]

Ja,

Did you see the price? 186,377 Euros.  That's a lot of bucks tor Der 
Vaterland garbage  For you 186k Euros you get a lot of glass!


At 08:39 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:

Mike Canfield wrote:
> WOW!  Look at the size of that windshield!!!  That's alot of glass!
>
I think that windshield costs more than a lot of our cars!!!

John

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Loren Faeth