Re: [MBZ] King pin installation
I can't speak for the prevailing practice, but that with which I am familiar in auto machine shops is that king pin bushings are honed to fit the pins. This is a very routine auto machine shop job similar to honing connnecting rod little end bushings to size. And the fit is not critical, although there are specifications. A nice oiled slip fit or no tighter than a light thumb push fit is what you need. This is true of old Ford pickups, big trucks, and old cars that use king pins instead of ball joints. Manufacturers' service manuals usually speak of reaming the bushings to size, which requires a suitable reamer. There's nothing wrong with good reaming, and I like it better than honing, perhaps because I believe deep down the honing leaves gritters in the bushings. But I've known of set after set that were honed. AFAIK they don't crater, and I think I'd know it if they did. They seem to endure as long as the owners will keep them greased. Pins and bushings will last forever, like more than 300,000 miles on an old Ford pickup, if greased regularly. Make that frequently. How I know this ought to be obvious. ___ Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:33:18 -0700 From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins King pins kits are about $200 (does both sides) from Rusty. But I think the labour can get pricey because there's some machining involved to install them. D. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote So how much are king pins? Never messed with them before. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Wandering all over the road might mean you need new king pins. This is bad (expensive!!) news if true... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stick 190D on Portland CL
Lot depends what else is wrong, usually the slave cylinder needs a rebuild and the flex discs can be worn. Also check the bottom of the panel that sits above the gearbox, when I did the clutch in my 201 I found out that Mr Rust had moved in but I chased him away. Pain in the bottom to pull out that panel. Jim Cathey wrote: '85, so it must be a 2.2. How hard a job is a new clutch? Nothing too hard, but it is a lengthy job. Exhaust and driveline come out, then tranny. Then replace bad parts and reverse. Probably a good long weekend, if you've done one before. Else longer. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NC secondhand MB dealer
They are good folks too, That is Scott and Chante Plowman.
Rusty Cullens
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Tel 1-800-741-5252
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Looks like this might be the place:
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1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles.
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE)
1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles
Wickford, RI-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:30 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] NC secondhand MB dealer
Was in NC last weekend for a family event. I noticed that there was a
used car dealer who seemed to be specialized in Mercedes. He had cars
of all eras back to at least the mid '60s on his lot. The place is on
US-74 near Matthews, I think the actual town is Indian Trail, but
might be wrong about that. It's near the Dale Jarrett Ford
dealership.
Anyone know of this place? We were on the way out of town, running
really behind schedule, and it was Sunday and the place was closed --
so I did not stop.
Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Success!
Craig McCluskey wrote: Finally setting the wheel bearing clearance ... Congrats! Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071008/64ba6dd1/attachment.jpg Thank you for posting that picture! I've always wondered the exact way to set up the dial gauge for setting the wheel bearing clearance! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions
On 10/9/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I even consider it? The rust in the floorboards is telling me to RUN! don't walk away from this one. I want to find a cheap one, but not one that's got the tin worm already feasting on it! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula, rust free Oh stop asking and go buy it already. You know you want to. If I had a way to get it back to Indiana, *I'd* try to buy it. Hard right now without any cash on hand, but I'd *try* The bare minimum is a $500 - $800 parts car (depending on how well you can beat up the seller) to use on a 115 that needs mechanical components. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Success!
Craig McCluskey wrote: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071008/64ba6dd1/attachment.jpg Get some better jack stands. My dad had a pair of those red things from Kmart in the 1970's. One of them collapsed with a car on it when the weight shifted. (it was on a concrete driveway, maybe 2 degrees off level) I've never seen a four legged ratchet stand fail, although I have managed to tip them over on uneven ground without damaging them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: SWMBA
I wasn't getting enough annoyance factor, so I had to up the ante a bit: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/xl100.html Just what I needed, another project! This one is going to wait awhile. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Success!
Craig McCluskey wrote: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071008/64ba6dd1/attachment.jpg Get some better jack stands. My dad had a pair of those red things from Kmart in the 1970's. One of them collapsed with a car on it when the weight shifted. (it was on a concrete driveway, maybe 2 degrees off level) I've never seen a four legged ratchet stand fail, although I have managed to tip them over on uneven ground without damaging them. Mitch. - The other day I noticed that the local Autozone has nothing but four legged pin type jackstands with 9/16 pins in them; very rugged and heavy. I asked the manager, whom I've known from other stores for years, why he got rid of the Chinese rachet stands. He just smiled and walked away. I suspect a tooth either broke or someone didn't make sure the rachet was completely engaged, and one went down. I now have four of the heavy duty pin type. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins
Don't know if it would do you any good. I assume there are different sizes of this sort of thing. This one was used on a 3 ton GMC of late 50's vintage if I recall correctly. Could haul it out and let you know what size it appears to be but I suspect it will be larger than a car might use. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Are you interested in selling the reamer? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Is this a job for a pro? I remember my father doing king pins on a truck of some sort back when I was a mere lad. He used a king pin reamer to do something - not sure if it is to make them fit well or if a worn one develops ridges sort of like a cylinder does and one has to clean it up to avoid future troubles. Do the new ones come oversized to permit that sort of thing? I still have the reamer in my tool box but have never used it and likely never will. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins So how much are king pins? Never messed with them before. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Wandering all over the road might mean you need new king pins. This is bad (expensive!!) news if true... A worn out steering knuckle explains the banging through the steering column. Not TOO expensive... On 10/5/07, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, thank you in particular for your thorough reply. Can W108 steering coupling bushings be replaced without removing the coupling from its home? I stuck my head under there and I see that it is the original type with the clips. Looks as though it MIGHT be possible to get in there with my hands, but not if the bushings require a lot of persuasion to come out/go in. D. Peter Frederick wrote: Your front subframe mounts are shot. Your steering coupler is shot. The upper diff mount (in the trunk) is shot. Center driveline bearing will cause floor-pan vibration, so will bad u-joints. Nice thing about the u-joints on that driveshaft is that you can replace them, they are centered with clips. Open the hood and take a look at the subframe mount on the driver's side (since you can see it, the right side one is under the battery). If the large bolt is not in the center of the hold, the mount is gone. You can also check behind the front wheel to see if any of the rubber is showing, likely not. Big PITA, but not an undoable job. Fix before the locator rod on the right side gets broken. Excessive wheel play is a bad steering coupler -- you can get the clips and sleeves to rebuild that one, later ones (and all replacements) are swaged and have to be tossed. Check the mounting bolts on the steering box -- they come loose and eventually the box pulls off the frame. Fix as soon as possible. Plan on a new tie rod, new drag link, and steering damper -- your's are toast except for the one replaced. Good luck finding some place who can do a proper front end alignment -- once you take a look you will see what I mean. MAKE SURE the shop that does it KNOWS that the caster MUST be set with the spring straps on the subframe, NOT the caster wheel on the upper trunion, or they will screw the adjuster on the trunion too far and crush the grease seal, causing the trunion to fail. You will need new rubber in the rear suspension -- upper diff mount (remember, this is a swing axle) is in the trunk under a cover. When this is bad, as yours is, the arm rides on the frame, transmitting all sorts of noise. Lots of thumping, banging, excessive jacking, and lurching on turns. you must lift the car onto jack stands to replace, support the diff with a floor jack, unbolt the old mount center bolt and four small screws, install the new one (and may have to lower the whole rear axle down). Also, the bushings in the control arms on both ends are bad, causing all sorts of road noise, wobbly rear end, and goofy steering. you mgiht want to plan to do diff mount and all the bushings at one time. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions
Can't tell much without at least going to have a good look. Who knows? rusty floorboards might mean anything from almost non-existent to a little surface rust. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions I emailed the seller of that '75 300D, and this is the response I got back. Hi Kevin! Body is pretty straight as you can see from photos on CL- a few dings and some rust around the fenders. Interior is pretty decent though the passenger seat has lost its springiness, and there are a couple of small tears in the back seat as well as a larger one that my daughter's booster seat caused. No leaks; though the floorboards are rusty and could stand to be bolstered. No sunroof. Odometer reads 65000+ (if I remember correctly) but stopped working some months back and who knows how many times it's passed 00, but engine sounded great before it quit starting. Turns over hard with a good battery, but just won't build up enough pressure to fire those first two injectors. Heading off to work now 'til late tonight. I can try tomorrow to get together some photos of the details listed above if you're interested. Saw that you had called earlier, call or e-mail again if you still want to come check her out. Tomorrow (AM or PM) or Friday (not in the evening) might be good possibilities. I'll check e-mail when I get home tonight. Take Care, Bhajan Should I even consider it? The rust in the floorboards is telling me to RUN! don't walk away from this one. I want to find a cheap one, but not one that's got the tin worm already feasting on it! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula, rust free ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions
So, what 115 parts are you trying to give away? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions Not really, you cant give away 115 parts right now. Rich Thomas wrote: The guy wanted $800, offer him 5 bennies right then and there or walk. You could part it out for that. --R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Success!
archer wrote: I now have four of the heavy duty pin type. Nothing wrong with my Chinese ratchets, although they aren't as good as my Blackhawk ratchets. Mine are all over 20 years old, and the newer ones do look lighter built. Four legs and 9/16 pins beats having a small tripod base and 3/8 pins. The pin holes stretched to ovals in dad's old stands. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions
None that I want to GIVE away, just everytime I ebay anything 115 it never sells. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions So, what 115 parts are you trying to give away? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions Not really, you cant give away 115 parts right now. Rich Thomas wrote: The guy wanted $800, offer him 5 bennies right then and there or walk. You could part it out for that. --R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins
Randy, If it's a king pin reamer then it's adjustable. I just need to know what the adjustment range is. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/10/07 10:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Don't know if it would do you any good. I assume there are different sizes of this sort of thing. This one was used on a 3 ton GMC of late 50's vintage if I recall correctly. Could haul it out and let you know what size it appears to be but I suspect it will be larger than a car might use. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Are you interested in selling the reamer? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Is this a job for a pro? I remember my father doing king pins on a truck of some sort back when I was a mere lad. He used a king pin reamer to do something - not sure if it is to make them fit well or if a worn one develops ridges sort of like a cylinder does and one has to clean it up to avoid future troubles. Do the new ones come oversized to permit that sort of thing? I still have the reamer in my tool box but have never used it and likely never will. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins So how much are king pins? Never messed with them before. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Wandering all over the road might mean you need new king pins. This is bad (expensive!!) news if true... A worn out steering knuckle explains the banging through the steering column. Not TOO expensive... On 10/5/07, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, thank you in particular for your thorough reply. Can W108 steering coupling bushings be replaced without removing the coupling from its home? I stuck my head under there and I see that it is the original type with the clips. Looks as though it MIGHT be possible to get in there with my hands, but not if the bushings require a lot of persuasion to come out/go in. D. Peter Frederick wrote: Your front subframe mounts are shot. Your steering coupler is shot. The upper diff mount (in the trunk) is shot. Center driveline bearing will cause floor-pan vibration, so will bad u-joints. Nice thing about the u-joints on that driveshaft is that you can replace them, they are centered with clips. Open the hood and take a look at the subframe mount on the driver's side (since you can see it, the right side one is under the battery). If the large bolt is not in the center of the hold, the mount is gone. You can also check behind the front wheel to see if any of the rubber is showing, likely not. Big PITA, but not an undoable job. Fix before the locator rod on the right side gets broken. Excessive wheel play is a bad steering coupler -- you can get the clips and sleeves to rebuild that one, later ones (and all replacements) are swaged and have to be tossed. Check the mounting bolts on the steering box -- they come loose and eventually the box pulls off the frame. Fix as soon as possible. Plan on a new tie rod, new drag link, and steering damper -- your's are toast except for the one replaced. Good luck finding some place who can do a proper front end alignment -- once you take a look you will see what I mean. MAKE SURE the shop that does it KNOWS that the caster MUST be set with the spring straps on the subframe, NOT the caster wheel on the upper trunion, or they will screw the adjuster on the trunion too far and crush the grease seal, causing the trunion to fail. You will need new rubber in the rear suspension -- upper diff mount (remember, this is a swing axle) is in the trunk under a cover. When this is bad, as yours is, the arm rides on the frame, transmitting all sorts of noise. Lots of thumping, banging, excessive jacking, and lurching on turns. you must lift the car onto jack stands to replace, support the diff with a floor jack, unbolt the old mount center bolt and four small screws, install the new one (and may have to lower the whole rear axle down). Also, the bushings in the control arms
[MBZ] OM603 prechamber cross-threaded
Anyone have any suggestions for how to remove a cross-threaded prechamber? I can't get the prechamber knockout tool in more than one thread HELP!!! ??? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] King pin installation
Fit is critical. Too tight and it will gall. Too loose and you will have too much play and excelerated wear. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 10/10/07 2:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] King pin installation I can't speak for the prevailing practice, but that with which I am familiar in auto machine shops is that king pin bushings are honed to fit the pins. This is a very routine auto machine shop job similar to honing connnecting rod little end bushings to size. And the fit is not critical, although there are specifications. A nice oiled slip fit or no tighter than a light thumb push fit is what you need. This is true of old Ford pickups, big trucks, and old cars that use king pins instead of ball joints. Manufacturers' service manuals usually speak of reaming the bushings to size, which requires a suitable reamer. There's nothing wrong with good reaming, and I like it better than honing, perhaps because I believe deep down the honing leaves gritters in the bushings. But I've known of set after set that were honed. AFAIK they don't crater, and I think I'd know it if they did. They seem to endure as long as the owners will keep them greased. Pins and bushings will last forever, like more than 300,000 miles on an old Ford pickup, if greased regularly. Make that frequently. How I know this ought to be obvious. ___ Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:33:18 -0700 From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins King pins kits are about $200 (does both sides) from Rusty. But I think the labour can get pricey because there's some machining involved to install them. D. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote So how much are king pins? Never messed with them before. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Wandering all over the road might mean you need new king pins. This is bad (expensive!!) news if true... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] King pin installation
IIRC we took the parts to a small auto machine shop,. He pressed out the old bushings and pressed in the new; fitted the kingpin, and didn't charge us too much. Might pay to call for prices first. Gerry - - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fit is critical. Too tight and it will gall. Too loose and you will have too much play and excelerated wear. -Original Message- From: Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 10/10/07 2:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] King pin installation I can't speak for the prevailing practice, but that with which I am familiar in auto machine shops is that king pin bushings are honed to fit the pins. This is a very routine auto machine shop job similar to honing connnecting rod little end bushings to size. And the fit is not critical, although there are specifications. A nice oiled slip fit or no tighter than a light thumb push fit is what you need. This is true of old Ford pickups, big trucks, and old cars that use king pins instead of ball joints. Manufacturers' service manuals usually speak of reaming the bushings to size, which requires a suitable reamer. There's nothing wrong with good reaming, and I like it better than honing, perhaps because I believe deep down the honing leavesgritters in the bushings. But I've known of set after set that were honed. AFAIK they don't crater, and I think I'd know it if they did. They seem to endure as long as the owners will keep them greased. Pins and bushings will last forever, like more than 300,000 miles on an old Ford pickup, if greased regularly. Make that frequently. How I know this ought to be obvious. __ Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:33:18 -0700 From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins King pins kits are about $200 (does both sides) from Rusty. But I think the labour can get pricey because there's some machining involved to install them. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A Warm Fuzzy
Having a 75% tear in my left rotator cuff and a 50% tear in my left place-where-the-bicep-hooks-on-to-the-bone translates into me no crawlie under car. My transmission needed service. Problem, right? I went to a fella that Jim Landenberger and Mr. Jim Friesen recommended, MB Motors. Those guys are great! I knew I was in the right place when he encouraged me to go out and hang out in the shop. Together Louis and I gave my car a very extensive once over. I was pumped. The owner, Bud, came over and talked for a good long time. Good humans. The actual work took about an hour.Iwas there almost two..and the tab was well under $100. I love the warm fuzzy feeling you get when you have a trustworthy, friendly, knowledgeable wrench. Bob Rentfro 1977 300D 182K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 prechamber cross-threaded
Luther wrote: Anyone have any suggestions for how to remove a cross-threaded prechamber? The lockring is threaded, and the prechamber just sits under the lockring? I bet if you could start the engine without the lockring, it would come out. Not sure what damage it would do with the tip of the glow plug blocking its exit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I love these 115's
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=180165561507ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=008 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=320165202387ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=011 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions
Who knows? rusty floorboards might mean anything from almost non-existent to a little surface rust. I need to go pick up the 'SD in the same part of Portland, so it wouldn't be much at all to swing by and have a look/feel. It may be worth playing around with for $500. I need a W115 fix! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I love these 115's
The first one looks pretty good. I wouldn't mind having that aux fuel tank in the trunk. I might be a bit concerned about splashing fuel out onto other things in the trunk when filling. Too bad there is not an easy way to have an outside filler for that tank too. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] I love these 115's http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=180165561507ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=008 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=320165202387ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=011 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine Swap?
Would have to move out of town to have enough space for that and my wife is never going to agree to that. My place is within the city limits. It started out as a good sized house with a 3.5 car tandem garage. The heated 4 car garage was built later along with a separate 650SqFt apartment. I lived down the street while it was being built. Right now, the shop has a little Honda Del Sol (AKA Go-Cart) in it that's waiting for an oil change and a tune-up. It has high miles and uses some oil, so I'm going to find out if it needs valve guide seals or if the rings are shot. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine Swap?
I am on a small city lot with the house at the front and a 2 car garage at the back lane. Nowhere to expand really unless I am prepared to bail. A friend has a good setup a mile or so away. He has a front drive with an attached double garage. He also has a back lane running by and enough back yard that he could put a 3 or 4 car garage at the lane and still have some lawn between the house and garage. Of course his wife, won't even discuss that sort of possibility. Not sure why but she is not nearly as accomodating as my good spouse. The other issue in Winnipeg is relativly high property taxes and so I don't know as though I want to move to something significantly bigger. I'm paying enough tax now. My main issue with moving outside of town is a reluctance to have to deal with water, sewer etc. Esp the water as a lot of the area around here has alkiline water and is not very usable. We also tend to have severe flooding outside of the floodway system built to the south and east of Winnipeg. Therefore a bit risky to go south which is where I would likely want to be. Most properties have either a dike around now or are on a raised bump to stay above traditional flood levels. However, one might still have to abandon the place for a period of time in the spring every few years. That must get old in a hurry. North or west of Winnipeg is better for flood issues as it is higher ground but that sort of thing would add at least a half hour coming and going on my runs to the lake which is east in Ontario. Nothing is ever easy is it? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine Swap? Would have to move out of town to have enough space for that and my wife is never going to agree to that. My place is within the city limits. It started out as a good sized house with a 3.5 car tandem garage. The heated 4 car garage was built later along with a separate 650SqFt apartment. I lived down the street while it was being built. Right now, the shop has a little Honda Del Sol (AKA Go-Cart) in it that's waiting for an oil change and a tune-up. It has high miles and uses some oil, so I'm going to find out if it needs valve guide seals or if the rings are shot. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I love these 115's
I don't know why these can't be closer to me. Ideally, I still want a '72 220D badly. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] I love these 115's http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=180165561 507ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=008 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=320165202 387ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=011 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PHX CL Wood Door Trim
Anyone know what these are/need these? Price seems reasonable if they are what they appear to be. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/445126098.html Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kalbe, Car Fax, Bitte?
Kaleb.car fax, bitte? WDBFA61E2LFOO5463 Donkey Shirts Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kalbe, Car Fax, Bitte?
my subscription has expired. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Kalbe, Car Fax, Bitte? Kaleb.car fax, bitte? WDBFA61E2LFOO5463 Donkey Shirts Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kalbe, Car Fax, Bitte?
bummer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kalbe, Car Fax, Bitte? my subscription has expired. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Kalbe, Car Fax, Bitte? Kaleb.car fax, bitte? WDBFA61E2LFOO5463 Donkey Shirts Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins
It looks like this but off hand I have no idea what the size is. You will see here that the range of adjustment is fairly small. Don't know if it is essentially the same shaft and just different cutters that make up the different size ranges. That makes the most sense, I would think. http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=6475 Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:16 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Randy, If it's a king pin reamer then it's adjustable. I just need to know what the adjustment range is. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/10/07 10:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Don't know if it would do you any good. I assume there are different sizes of this sort of thing. This one was used on a 3 ton GMC of late 50's vintage if I recall correctly. Could haul it out and let you know what size it appears to be but I suspect it will be larger than a car might use. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Are you interested in selling the reamer? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Is this a job for a pro? I remember my father doing king pins on a truck of some sort back when I was a mere lad. He used a king pin reamer to do something - not sure if it is to make them fit well or if a worn one develops ridges sort of like a cylinder does and one has to clean it up to avoid future troubles. Do the new ones come oversized to permit that sort of thing? I still have the reamer in my tool box but have never used it and likely never will. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins So how much are king pins? Never messed with them before. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Wandering all over the road might mean you need new king pins. This is bad (expensive!!) news if true... A worn out steering knuckle explains the banging through the steering column. Not TOO expensive... On 10/5/07, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, thank you in particular for your thorough reply. Can W108 steering coupling bushings be replaced without removing the coupling from its home? I stuck my head under there and I see that it is the original type with the clips. Looks as though it MIGHT be possible to get in there with my hands, but not if the bushings require a lot of persuasion to come out/go in. D. Peter Frederick wrote: Your front subframe mounts are shot. Your steering coupler is shot. The upper diff mount (in the trunk) is shot. Center driveline bearing will cause floor-pan vibration, so will bad u-joints. Nice thing about the u-joints on that driveshaft is that you can replace them, they are centered with clips. Open the hood and take a look at the subframe mount on the driver's side (since you can see it, the right side one is under the battery). If the large bolt is not in the center of the hold, the mount is gone. You can also check behind the front wheel to see if any of the rubber is showing, likely not. Big PITA, but not an undoable job. Fix before the locator rod on the right side gets broken. Excessive wheel play is a bad steering coupler -- you can get the clips and sleeves to rebuild that one, later ones (and all replacements) are swaged and have to be tossed. Check the mounting bolts on the steering box -- they come loose and eventually the box pulls off the frame. Fix as soon as possible. Plan on a new tie rod, new drag link, and steering damper -- your's are toast except for the one replaced. Good luck finding some place who can do a proper front end alignment -- once you take a look you will see what I mean. MAKE SURE the shop that does it KNOWS that the caster MUST be set with the spring straps on the subframe, NOT the caster wheel on the upper trunion, or they will screw the adjuster on the trunion too far and crush the grease seal,
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins
Maybe not. It looks like this set has different sized shafts. http://www.etoolcart.com/browseproducts/Carbon-Steel-Adjustable-Angle-Blade-Reamer-Set.html Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins It looks like this but off hand I have no idea what the size is. You will see here that the range of adjustment is fairly small. Don't know if it is essentially the same shaft and just different cutters that make up the different size ranges. That makes the most sense, I would think. http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=6475 Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:16 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Randy, If it's a king pin reamer then it's adjustable. I just need to know what the adjustment range is. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/10/07 10:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Don't know if it would do you any good. I assume there are different sizes of this sort of thing. This one was used on a 3 ton GMC of late 50's vintage if I recall correctly. Could haul it out and let you know what size it appears to be but I suspect it will be larger than a car might use. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:52 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Are you interested in selling the reamer? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Is this a job for a pro? I remember my father doing king pins on a truck of some sort back when I was a mere lad. He used a king pin reamer to do something - not sure if it is to make them fit well or if a worn one develops ridges sort of like a cylinder does and one has to clean it up to avoid future troubles. Do the new ones come oversized to permit that sort of thing? I still have the reamer in my tool box but have never used it and likely never will. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins So how much are king pins? Never messed with them before. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5: The nightmare begins Wandering all over the road might mean you need new king pins. This is bad (expensive!!) news if true... A worn out steering knuckle explains the banging through the steering column. Not TOO expensive... On 10/5/07, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, thank you in particular for your thorough reply. Can W108 steering coupling bushings be replaced without removing the coupling from its home? I stuck my head under there and I see that it is the original type with the clips. Looks as though it MIGHT be possible to get in there with my hands, but not if the bushings require a lot of persuasion to come out/go in. D. Peter Frederick wrote: Your front subframe mounts are shot. Your steering coupler is shot. The upper diff mount (in the trunk) is shot. Center driveline bearing will cause floor-pan vibration, so will bad u-joints. Nice thing about the u-joints on that driveshaft is that you can replace them, they are centered with clips. Open the hood and take a look at the subframe mount on the driver's side (since you can see it, the right side one is under the battery). If the large bolt is not in the center of the hold, the mount is gone. You can also check behind the front wheel to see if any of the rubber is showing, likely not. Big PITA, but not an undoable job. Fix before the locator rod on the right side gets broken. Excessive wheel play is a bad steering coupler -- you can get the clips and sleeves to rebuild that one, later ones (and all replacements) are swaged and have to be tossed. Check the mounting bolts on the steering box -- they come loose and eventually the box pulls off the frame. Fix as soon as possible. Plan on a new tie rod, new drag link, and steering damper -- your's are toast
Re: [MBZ] I love these 115's
And they are both no-sale green, otherwise known as baby puke green At 02:12 PM 10/10/2007, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=180165561507ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=008 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=320165202387ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=011 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Reamers
I have purchased from the first co. Good to do biz with http://www.msdiscount.com Machine Shop Discount Supply Also looks OK http://www.chadwickreamers.com/angle_blade_adj_lp.php?adjust_measure=fractionalhttp://www.chadwickreamers.com/angle_bl fractional Fred Moir ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Reamers
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:28:53 -0400 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reamers I have purchased from the first co. Good to do biz with http://www.msdiscount.com Machine Shop Discount Supply Also looks OK http://www.chadwickreamers.com/angle_blade_adj_lp.php?adjust_measure=fractionalhttp://www.chadwickreamers.com/angle_bl fractional Fred Moir ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I love these 115's
wonderful color Loren Faeth wrote: And they are both no-sale green, otherwise known as baby puke green At 02:12 PM 10/10/2007, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=180165561507ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=008 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=320165202387ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=011 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody need any parts at the IowaQ?/
Anybody going to the IowaQ need any parts? Let me know and I can bring them. Will need to know soon, dont have much time to gather them up. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Success!
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:44:00 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071008/64ba6dd1/attachment.jpg Get some better jack stands. My dad had a pair of those red things from Kmart in the 1970's. They didn't come from Kmart, but I'll take your advice. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Success!
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:28:39 -0400 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other day I noticed that the local Autozone has nothing but four legged pin type jackstands with 9/16 pins in them; very rugged and heavy. I asked the manager, whom I've known from other stores for years, why he got rid of the Chinese rachet stands. He just smiled and walked away. I suspect a tooth either broke or someone didn't make sure the rachet was completely engaged, and one went down. I now have four of the heavy duty pin type. Gerry I have a set of the Chinese rachet jobbies from AutoZone. I think I'll do the same thing you did. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: SWMBA
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:05:22 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't getting enough annoyance factor, so I had to up the ante a bit: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/xl100.html Just what I needed, another project! This one is going to wait awhile. The tank and side panels look great ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I like my older cars just fine (tinfoil hat time)
I have seen reference to EMP kits you can build. I just want one that disables loud amplifiers. If it kills the car then the rap star driving it will still be hanging around trying to keep his pants from falling down yo. --R Redghost wrote: That be why I am going to let the fools purchase these new fangled cars that will not work once the guys in the black helicopters show up. No mighty beam weapon will stop Gump when the huge EM pulse hits town and deprograms all the VCRs clay On 9 Oct 2007, at 06:32, John Robbins wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2007-10-09- pursuits_N.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions
I take them all day long and find more at the PnP I need to bring home. Just depends on where you are and who needs the parts. If you have parts, hit the MBCA 114/115 forum and you will find all sorts of people needing/wanting you to sell them some. I always point them to you or Rusty when they go looking for parts clay On 9 Oct 2007, at 17:36, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Not really, you cant give away 115 parts right now. Rich Thomas wrote: The guy wanted $800, offer him 5 bennies right then and there or walk. You could part it out for that. --R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1975 300D questions
YES, that would be great. you will need to have the IP rebuilt, since the BioD has eaten the seals. Probably not a huge deal, but take it to a known BioD mechanic so that the proper parts are installed. I had to take the ED in because we were running to high a percentage and it ate the rubber bits. clay AND your blower works, so right there you have a reason to purchase On 9 Oct 2007, at 12:32, Kevin Kraly wrote: This car popped up on CL this morning for $800. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/444268472.html It **SUPPOSEDLY** has an IP leak that's preventing the engine from starting. This may be the W115 I'm looking for. How hard is it to replace the IP if it needs one? I'm thinking that the problem is due to a leak in a line eaten away by the B99 biodiesel and not the IP. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I like my older cars just fine (tinfoil hat time)
That be why I am going to let the fools purchase these new fangled cars that will not work once the guys in the black helicopters show up. No mighty beam weapon will stop Gump when the huge EM pulse hits town and deprograms all the VCRs clay On 9 Oct 2007, at 06:32, John Robbins wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2007-10-09- pursuits_N.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 prechamber cross-threaded
Pull the head, and pound it out from the other side? On 10/10/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: Anyone have any suggestions for how to remove a cross-threaded prechamber? The lockring is threaded, and the prechamber just sits under the lockring? I bet if you could start the engine without the lockring, it would come out. Not sure what damage it would do with the tip of the glow plug blocking its exit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody need any parts at the IowaQ?
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:07:43 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody going to the IowaQ need any parts? Let me know and I can bring them. Will need to know soon, dont have much time to gather them up. Well, Shirley is feeling better and it looks like we're going to try to make it to the IowaQ. (Suprise, Don!) I'm still looking for the list of parts for a W123 I sent you earlier: - driver's door lock finish trim piece WITH MOUNTING SCREWS - a four-pin connector housing and cover (for right front marker/turn signal) - a six-pin connector housing and cover (for left Euro headlight, but they're used throughout a W123 ) - a good condition battery tray - passenger side front seat belt clip (15/16 wide) - windshield washer fluid reservoir (123 869 07 20) - dark blue blue visors - dark blue front driver's side carpet Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Carfax Subscription Questions
When you pay $30 for a carfax, how long is the subscription good for? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
