Re: [MBZ] King pin Grease
Not well known to me. There are many things I have never heard of, and that is just one of them. Please tell me more, as I would like to know about this situation. I thought that only the famous prewar metal Britishinium, used in many British cars, was capable of rusting under six inches of oil or of being consumed without a trace by a film of ordinary cup grease. As some on these mailing lists have found out the hard way, the syncro metal in the manual transmissions is susceptible to being attacked by one of the additives in regular gear oil that helps heavy steel gears hold up under extreme loading. Phosphorus? Anyway, lots of cars use gear oil in the tranny, but not these. They want ATF, and not just because of the lighter weight. I have not personally had the problem, nor do I want to! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure?
I guess its not the pilot bearing then , the puzzle is that its dependant on engine rpm and not road speed . Peter -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2007 16:49 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? I had a 240D with a bad throw out bearing that screamed real loud. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? A friend of mine suggested that my W124 ( 5 speed maual ) drivetrain vibration ( when loaded at 1700 rpm ) could be related to a failing pilot bearing - that's the bearing that supports the input shaft of the manual gearbox. What are the typical symptons of a failed pilot bearing? The one time I had it there was nasty shrieking, intermittently, when you put the clutch in. This was on a Camaro. The bearing isn't moving when the clutch is out. (But could be off-center, in the proposed scenario.) Me? I'd be looking elsewhere first. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure?
In most manual transmission cars, the pilot bearing is just a bronze bushing. I don't remember what Mercedes uses because the last MB clutch I had apart was in a 1972 220D. When the clutch pedal is released, the flywheel, pilot bearing, clutch input shaft rotate as one mass regardless of the shape the pilot bearing is in it will not make any noise. The pilot bearing comes into play when the clutch pedal is pressed down. It keeps the input shaft centered. One symptom of a worn pilot bearing is slight vibration felt through the pedal but I've never hear of one making a noise even with the clutch pedal pressed down. Also, a worn pilot bearing usually does not make a vibration because the clutch tends to self center as it's released. The vibration could be a damaged clutch friction disk but you'd need to have a chunk missing from the disk. Is the vibration present at 1700 RPM with the car in N the clutch pedal released? Is it also present at 1700 RPM with the car in gear the clutch pedal pressed down? I'm asking because one test has the clutch friction disk and the transmission input shaft spinning while the other does not. If the vibration is the same with both tests then I suggest you look elsewhere. The throwout bearing will screach if it runs dry, but only when there is pressure on the clutch pedal, and the pedal does not have to be pressed down. With no pressure on the clutch pedal, the throwout bearing is spinning free. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 01:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I guess its not the pilot bearing then , the puzzle is that its dependant on engine rpm and not road speed . Peter -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2007 16:49 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? I had a 240D with a bad throw out bearing that screamed real loud. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? A friend of mine suggested that my W124 ( 5 speed maual ) drivetrain vibration ( when loaded at 1700 rpm ) could be related to a failing pilot bearing - that's the bearing that supports the input shaft of the manual gearbox. What are the typical symptons of a failed pilot bearing? The one time I had it there was nasty shrieking, intermittently, when you put the clutch in. This was on a Camaro. The bearing isn't moving when the clutch is out. (But could be off-center, in the proposed scenario.) Me? I'd be looking elsewhere first. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure?
Tom, the vibration or really it should be called a resonance occurs only when drivetrain is loaded. It appears to come from the whole drivetrain. It does not occur when vehicle is not moving ie in Neutal or in Gear with clutch depressed. It's a resonance which is very similar to a vehicle that is driven in to high a gear such as 1200 rpm in top gear trying to lug up a hill. Resonance is dependant on accelerator position or how much torque is delivered by engine. Peter -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2007 10:20 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? In most manual transmission cars, the pilot bearing is just a bronze bushing. I don't remember what Mercedes uses because the last MB clutch I had apart was in a 1972 220D. When the clutch pedal is released, the flywheel, pilot bearing, clutch input shaft rotate as one mass regardless of the shape the pilot bearing is in it will not make any noise. The pilot bearing comes into play when the clutch pedal is pressed down. It keeps the input shaft centered. One symptom of a worn pilot bearing is slight vibration felt through the pedal but I've never hear of one making a noise even with the clutch pedal pressed down. Also, a worn pilot bearing usually does not make a vibration because the clutch tends to self center as it's released. The vibration could be a damaged clutch friction disk but you'd need to have a chunk missing from the disk. Is the vibration present at 1700 RPM with the car in N the clutch pedal released? Is it also present at 1700 RPM with the car in gear the clutch pedal pressed down? I'm asking because one test has the clutch friction disk and the transmission input shaft spinning while the other does not. If the vibration is the same with both tests then I suggest you look elsewhere. The throwout bearing will screach if it runs dry, but only when there is pressure on the clutch pedal, and the pedal does not have to be pressed down. With no pressure on the clutch pedal, the throwout bearing is spinning free. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 01:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I guess its not the pilot bearing then , the puzzle is that its dependant on engine rpm and not road speed . Peter -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2007 16:49 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? I had a 240D with a bad throw out bearing that screamed real loud. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? A friend of mine suggested that my W124 ( 5 speed maual ) drivetrain vibration ( when loaded at 1700 rpm ) could be related to a failing pilot bearing - that's the bearing that supports the input shaft of the manual gearbox. What are the typical symptons of a failed pilot bearing? The one time I had it there was nasty shrieking, intermittently, when you put the clutch in. This was on a Camaro. The bearing isn't moving when the clutch is out. (But could be off-center, in the proposed scenario.) Me? I'd be looking elsewhere first. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure?
the vibration or really it should be called a resonance occurs only when drivetrain is loaded. It appears to come from the whole drivetrain. It does not occur when vehicle is not moving ie in Neutal or in Gear with clutch depressed. It's a resonance which is very similar to a vehicle that is driven in to high a gear such as 1200 rpm in top gear trying to lug up a hill. Resonance is dependant on accelerator position or how much torque is delivered by engine. Sounds more like an injection problem, or a weak cylinder. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server
Well outlook has several things that I dont like that it cant seem to do that even outlook express can. For instance, when switching from one mail profile identity to another, you cant just switch in outlook, you have to close outlook, then restart it and select the new profile. Also, when printing an email, this outlook 2007 wont let you select to just print the first page. You know, like every other program or whatever that when you print you can select to print page 1-whatever. You have to print every page. If there is a way around that, I have not figured it out. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server Yup - we have some mailboxes that are more than a gig. If they are paying any attention to the e-discovery law, they will be insisting on the email staying in Exchange, then dumping it into an archiving system. Leaving it desktops is just asking for a major penalty when you can't produce it for a lawsuit. I know that you can connect a Notes client to Exchange, so there are bound to be others. However, I like Outlook (2007) better than the others I've used - too many features that I use, and it just works. On 10/15/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange storage is limited by disk space and your IT department managing the server storage space. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
So what happens if you run more than the generator will produce? It just bogs down and dies? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, generator I can run a well pump, 30 year old refrigerator, and two freezers with enough left over for lights/tv/computer from a 11hp genny. Tried to cook pancakes once, found that one stove burner on low bogged the genny. Would not dare try to run water heater or dryer. 30kw might do everything. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server
Open the email. Press 'Ctrl' P. When the print window pops up, select the pages you want to print. Press the 'OK' button. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server Well outlook has several things that I dont like that it cant seem to do that even outlook express can. For instance, when switching from one mail profile identity to another, you cant just switch in outlook, you have to close outlook, then restart it and select the new profile. Also, when printing an email, this outlook 2007 wont let you select to just print the first page. You know, like every other program or whatever that when you print you can select to print page 1-whatever. You have to print every page. If there is a way around that, I have not figured it out. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server Yup - we have some mailboxes that are more than a gig. If they are paying any attention to the e-discovery law, they will be insisting on the email staying in Exchange, then dumping it into an archiving system. Leaving it desktops is just asking for a major penalty when you can't produce it for a lawsuit. I know that you can connect a Notes client to Exchange, so there are bound to be others. However, I like Outlook (2007) better than the others I've used - too many features that I use, and it just works. On 10/15/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange storage is limited by disk space and your IT department managing the server storage space. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
Can you hook 2 of these generators up together to produce 10-12k? In other words, have 2 of them running at the same time to power the house? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, generator Well regardless of what they imply by american flags etc, I'll note it looks the same as any other diesel generator made in China. Some vendors supply GFCI outlets and remote starting btw, and some for a few bucks more come with sound insulating covers. Like say http://cgi.ebay.com/LONGEVITY-6500-WATT-SILENT-DIESEL-6-5KW- GENERATOR-6000_W0QQitemZ280162269729QQihZ018QQcategoryZ106437QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I have a 6500 Kw gas generator (honda powered) I bought in 1999 and I know from experience (50 straight hours last winter) that it will power, oh say some lights, the entertainment system, the office computers, a space heater or a hot plate, the fully automagic espresso coffee machine, and the fridge. So lights, TV, some heat, fridge, excellent coffee, minimal cooking. But no hot water. Still it's better than the neighbours who in the 28F weather had to flee to hotels. As pointed out you need a 10Kw + unit to really provide central gas heating and likely hot water, add in a stove (that's more...) On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What do you all think about this little generator? Will it power a house in a blackout? http://cgi.ebay.com/6500-Watt-Generator-10-hp-Diesel-Electric- Start_W0QQitemZ260171250393QQihZ016QQcategoryZ106437QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem John 1983 300TDt 384k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 208k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure?
Jim There vibration type sounds/feelings are difficult to describe in the English language ! If I could spell it it would be grr , the frequency seems higher than the firing rate of the injectors and appears to be of a mechanical nature as opposed to a combustion thing . I can even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. It has a high Q value of about 10 ( for engineers they will understand ). The resonance is over a vary narrow bandwidth 1600- 1800 rpm. Outside of this range is engine is silky smooth with good power delivery Peter -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2007 15:06 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure? the vibration or really it should be called a resonance occurs only when drivetrain is loaded. It appears to come from the whole drivetrain. It does not occur when vehicle is not moving ie in Neutal or in Gear with clutch depressed. It's a resonance which is very similar to a vehicle that is driven in to high a gear such as 1200 rpm in top gear trying to lug up a hill. Resonance is dependant on accelerator position or how much torque is delivered by engine. Sounds more like an injection problem, or a weak cylinder. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
So what happens if you run more than the generator will produce? It just bogs down and dies? If you're lucky. If only one side is overloaded usually you burn out a winding. The better units have circuit breakers. Can you hook 2 of these generators up together to produce 10-12k? In other words, have 2 of them running at the same time to power the house? If they are on completely separate circuits, yes. But I've never seen a house that could be run that way. You can't parallel the generators, unless you can yoke their engines mechanically. You could put in two of those generator transfer circuit breaker panels, then you could run two smaller generators. The two panels would take care of isolating the two machines from each other. But the two machines couldn't work together to run heavier loads, like the electric stove on full Thanksgiving drive. An automotive analogy would be getting 4wd by having one engine for the front wheels, and another for the back. Possible, but freakishly weird. The expensive inverter generators can be ganged. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure?
even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] King pin Grease
That's one of the reasons we are here, to disseminate knowledge that is _not_ well-covered in the literature, aiming at keeping our fine steeds running well into the indefinite future. -- Jim With Shoe-Goo and small appliance parts... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] King pin Grease
With Shoe-Goo and small appliance parts... If that's what it takes! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server
yes, it brings up the print window, but there is nothing there to select what pages. It just says number of pages with a drop down menu that you can pick all, even, or odd. Wierd. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server Open the email. Press 'Ctrl' P. When the print window pops up, select the pages you want to print. Press the 'OK' button. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
got ya --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, generator So what happens if you run more than the generator will produce? It just bogs down and dies? If you're lucky. If only one side is overloaded usually you burn out a winding. The better units have circuit breakers. Can you hook 2 of these generators up together to produce 10-12k? In other words, have 2 of them running at the same time to power the house? If they are on completely separate circuits, yes. But I've never seen a house that could be run that way. You can't parallel the generators, unless you can yoke their engines mechanically. You could put in two of those generator transfer circuit breaker panels, then you could run two smaller generators. The two panels would take care of isolating the two machines from each other. But the two machines couldn't work together to run heavier loads, like the electric stove on full Thanksgiving drive. An automotive analogy would be getting 4wd by having one engine for the front wheels, and another for the back. Possible, but freakishly weird. The expensive inverter generators can be ganged. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: So what happens if you run more than the generator will produce? It just bogs down and dies? I kill the new load before it dies, but yes, the throttle opens all the way, and the speed goes down, and everything plugged into the genny (except the computer, which has UPS downstream of the genny) experiences brownout. If a refrigeration unit bogs the genny on startup, it will usually kick itself off after a few seconds. On thing to watch out for is overrated engines. I have heard of a lot of lawnmower type engines that dyno far below their labeled HP, and would bet that genny engines do it too. Kind of like the 5hp compressor motors that run on 2kw of electricity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilot bearing failure?
Failed motor or tranny mount? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts?
John M McIntosh wrote: Well up here in Canada where we've Diesel Powered Smarts the fellows in the back room at the mercedes dealership tell me they've sent off quite a few IP where the owner has run questionable biodiesel or SVO and trashed things... 'twould be interesting if we were ever able to find out the details of these IP trashings; for example, are we talking about homebrew BioD, or some otherwise sub-standard BioD? (the fact that the standards for BioD aren't even globally universal doesn't help, either,... the possibility exists that the BioD these things were exposed to doesn't meet the spec for BioD that would have been acceptable.) add to that the issues we've seen with the VW TDIs seals failing after even just a few cycles of switching back and forth between BioD and the new ULSD, and you have to wonder if these were trashed in a similar manner, and what the real cause of the problem is. of course if they were running unheated (S/W)VO, they were just asking for trouble. I'll assume since the iP is only for 3 cyls, why it must only be 1/2 the price of a om603 pump eh? we can dream, can't we? ;-) Evidence shows those new fangled IPs aren't as forgiving as the ones in a 617. some people are still downright allergic to the idea of BioD of any kind, and will use any chance to blame any failure on it. while they might be right sometimes, after seeing millions of miles run on BioD in our local fleet, i still have to wonder why the local IP rebuilder sends rebuilt IPs back with a tag that disallows warranty coverage if any hint of BioD use is detected. (i've never been able to get a straight answer on the topic.) Exposing anything with bluetec in the name to such fuels gives me the shivers... until the BioD standards are more universal, i feel the same way. i'm extremely curious to see how the coming Honda diesels handle non-petroleum fuels,... cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
On 10/16/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An automotive analogy would be getting 4wd by having one engine for the front wheels, and another for the back. Possible, but freakishly weird. Hey, Car Driver mag did that with a Honda CRX! No fooling. (Hasn't this already come up on the list before, in fact?) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo with only one engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Hey, Car Driver mag did that with a Honda CRX! No fooling. (Hasn't this already come up on the list before, in fact?) Honda gave them a pair of brand new 2.2L auto tranny Accords which were damaged in a train wreck. Carp Drivel didn't want to try to build a two tranny shift linkage for manny trans. Definitely one of the more interesting CD project cars. I always thought J. Edgar Opel (a slightly but expensively modified Opel GT) was pointless, unless the point was showing the readers that blueprinting a stock engine didn't accomplish anything useful. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rental+car +abusesearch=Search Still they would be newer, they likely had regular approved service, how would you know the treatment was *any* different than a car from some used car lot which has no history... Is there some large difference in pricing driving this decsion? On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 384k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 208k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 198k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts?
On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote: 'twould be interesting if we were ever able to find out the details of these IP trashings; for example, are we talking about homebrew BioD, or some otherwise sub-standard BioD? of course if they were running unheated (S/W)VO, they were just asking for trouble. This would be home brew BioD and I'll certainly bet (S/W)VO ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
Don't see many wagons this cheap. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/447526976.html Waddya think? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Don't know about the pricing. Seems reasonable, but not really great at first glance. Especially considering they probably bought them at a serious discount from the manufacturer. One draw is that there is a large selection in one place. They *say* that they only keep their best cars for sale, and send any sub-prime cars to auction. I guess they do maintain them, but since they only keep them a year or so that amounts to a few oil and filter changes and maybe a set of brake pads. You are right, you really don't know the history. That is not any different than most other used cars so I don't see that as a big factor either way. Allan John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rental+car+abusesearch=Search Still they would be newer, they likely had regular approved service, how would you know the treatment was *any* different than a car from some used car lot which has no history... Is there some large difference in pricing driving this decsion? On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
No air, no cruise, banged up, mileage unknown. I'd say it's a little on the high side. Allan Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't see many wagons this cheap. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/447526976.html Waddya think? Bob R. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
Well its non turbo. There is a non turbo for sale here for 1k, a 81 turbo wagon with new paint for $1200 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL Don't see many wagons this cheap. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/447526976.html Waddya think? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Hi, I bought a 2001 Cherokee Classic in December 2001 23k miles. I had them install a western plow and drove it to 93k and love it. $19,800 and 8% $492 for 5 years. Still my newest of the fleet. Ed in Chicago '82 300sd 120k; '85 190d 90k; '90 sub 6.2 na 252k; '90 F250 7.4 4x4 95k;67 F250 59k; '81cj7 65k; '76 LTD wag 145k; '85 Linc TC 145k; 2001 Altima 70k; '86 Accord 51k; '90 BMW K100 45k; '82 KZ 250 3k. the fleet! one wife 2 daughters. '67 33' CC Cavalier; '85 Wellcraft 19' and a 1948 CC deluxe KBL 131hp. John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rental+car +abusesearch=Search Still they would be newer, they likely had regular approved service, how would you know the treatment was *any* different than a car from some used car lot which has no history... Is there some large difference in pricing driving this decsion? On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 384k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 208k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 198k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
and judging by the guard behind the rear seat, likely 'doggified'... cheers! e Allan Streib wrote: No air, no cruise, banged up, mileage unknown. I'd say it's a little on the high side. Allan Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't see many wagons this cheap. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/447526976.html Waddya think? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
True, true... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL No air, no cruise, banged up, mileage unknown. I'd say it's a little on the high side. Allan Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't see many wagons this cheap. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/447526976.html Waddya think? Bob R. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Must Now Just Off the Boat Got
An awesome description: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/450370314.html Me laffing am now... Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts?
I believe VO is Vegetable Oil - but what is SVO? Also - It sounds like I can pour a gallon or 2 pf VO (SVO?) into my tank fill the rest of the way with diesel and get most of the benefits (smooth, quiet and lower stench.)? Sorry - haven't followed this thread closely. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts? Where you are, you should be fine with a few gallons of SVO in each tank. Will give you that same BioD benefit of smooth, quiet and lower stench. clay On 15 Oct 2007, at 13:44, Robert Rentfro wrote: Now that #2 is $3.05 here, I bought 5 gallons of SVO that was on sale to last me until tomorrow night when I have to head to work.where I can get, along the freeway, #2 at Loves for $2.85 (I hope). So I dump in the SVO and drive off and by the time I make it to the first light, it seems I am running markedly smoother and quieter. Since they have gone to exclusively low-sulfur I haven't made it into town to the closest bio pump (about 6 months or so). Does it really make that much of a difference or am I just nuts? It sounds and feels so much better it makes me want to start collecting WVO... Bob Rentfro '77 300D 182K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 6:48 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Enterprise is *supposed* to be real good at maintaining their vehicles, but I had to rent one of their compacts a couple of years ago in New Hampshire that only had about 10k miles on it and the thing was beat. At least most of the car places are better on keeping the scheduled maintnence up, even if they ignore some major repairs. I wouldn't buy anything from uhaul.Most of the independent agents don't want to have to fool with getting the reimbursement for oil etc and they send them out the door low on everything ( and if the engine seizes up, it's the customers fault for not keeping the fluids up...go figure ) I had to rent a truck with a v10 ford a while back that only had about 50k on it. the thing was over 3 qts low on oil leaving the agents yard when I stopped at a gas station down the street ( for some reason, they had me wait for 4 hours while they got the truck ready for a long trip and when I got there , all the fluids were low, the cab was dirty and they hadn't even bothered to empty the ash tray.which I can be fairly certain that they charged the last person for , for returning the vehicle dirty. I have no idea what the heck they did during that 4 hours.) About the only thing going for a used rental car is some come with warranties. -Robert Allan Streib wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts?
SVO - straight veg oil (most always meaning new VO) WVO - waste veg oil Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts? I believe VO is Vegetable Oil - but what is SVO? Also - It sounds like I can pour a gallon or 2 pf VO (SVO?) into my tank fill the rest of the way with diesel and get most of the benefits (smooth, quiet and lower stench.)? Sorry - haven't followed this thread closely. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts? Where you are, you should be fine with a few gallons of SVO in each tank. Will give you that same BioD benefit of smooth, quiet and lower stench. clay On 15 Oct 2007, at 13:44, Robert Rentfro wrote: Now that #2 is $3.05 here, I bought 5 gallons of SVO that was on sale to last me until tomorrow night when I have to head to work.where I can get, along the freeway, #2 at Loves for $2.85 (I hope). So I dump in the SVO and drive off and by the time I make it to the first light, it seems I am running markedly smoother and quieter. Since they have gone to exclusively low-sulfur I haven't made it into town to the closest bio pump (about 6 months or so). Does it really make that much of a difference or am I just nuts? It sounds and feels so much better it makes me want to start collecting WVO... Bob Rentfro '77 300D 182K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 6:48 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must Now Just Off the Boat Got
And be making grate fotoes of Germany otto ass well! --R Robert Rentfro wrote: An awesome description: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/car/450370314.html Me laffing am now... Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Allan, For what this is worth, when I was working a friend at work had bought program cars for years as she would put quite a lot of miles on a car each year as she lived a considerable distance from work. We were office mates eons ago and, even though we were in different areas of the company in later years, we would occasionally have lunch to keep in touch and she never seemed to complain about any of the cars she had. As I remember, they were all GM models. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
You should buy a brown one. Then no one would be upset if you gave it a name. --R Glenn Brown wrote: Allan, For what this is worth, when I was working a friend at work had bought program cars for years as she would put quite a lot of miles on a car each year as she lived a considerable distance from work. We were office mates eons ago and, even though we were in different areas of the company in later years, we would occasionally have lunch to keep in touch and she never seemed to complain about any of the cars she had. As I remember, they were all GM models. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
Redondo Beach=salt air=rust. On 10/16/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't see many wagons this cheap. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/447526976.html Waddya think? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
I say get a smaller generator and a woodstove and camp stove. I've go no generator but I do have a 100ah marine battery and 17w of solar panels which will run the laptop just fine for days and days. The woodstove heats the house easily even at -20F and a 2 burner whitegas Coleman stove will cook just fine although the meals you tend to get are a bit boring. Some charcoal and the dutch oven fix that fine. How much generator you need really depends on how much civilization you demand. -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:38:38 -0700 From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, generator To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Well regardless of what they imply by american flags etc, I'll note it looks the same as any other diesel generator made in China. Some vendors supply GFCI outlets and remote starting btw, and some for a few bucks more come with sound insulating covers. Like say http://cgi.ebay.com/LONGEVITY-6500-WATT-SILENT-DIESEL-6-5KW- GENERATOR-6000_W0QQitemZ280162269729QQihZ018QQcategoryZ106437QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I have a 6500 Kw gas generator (honda powered) I bought in 1999 and I know from experience (50 straight hours last winter) that it will power, oh say some lights, the entertainment system, the office computers, a space heater or a hot plate, the fully automagic espresso coffee machine, and the fridge. So lights, TV, some heat, fridge, excellent coffee, minimal cooking. But no hot water. Still it's better than the neighbours who in the 28F weather had to flee to hotels. As pointed out you need a 10Kw + unit to really provide central gas heating and likely hot water, add in a stove (that's more...) - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
Please repeat after me... There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes Unless you are Kaleb, the king of Cheap Mercedes. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 03:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Redondo Beach=salt air=rust. On 10/16/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't see many wagons this cheap. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/447526976.html Waddya think? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Funny as I was driving my rental car into Burbank today I was thinking about this. My theory of the moment is that if you were buying a nicer car it would be fine. Econobox, forget it. Econoboxes get rented, mostly I suspect, by younger people that kick the crap out of them. A nicer car that would more likely only be rented by more responsible adults would probably be okay. Witness the Civic I had some 3 years ago that I picked out because the paint was trashed. I proceeded to royally thrash it for a week. Great car, I really liked it. Today I have a Malibu that seems to be a decent car but I have no desire to go out and really flog it. My Aunt has a Volvo she bought from a rental agency, she's had terrific luck with it. -Curt Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:58:45 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
Vintage Truck magazine has an article in this month's issue on a Citroen (made under another name though) where they did that. 2 800cc engines (think deux cheveux) whoo boy, bet that was a speed demon. ;) -Curt Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:08:52 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, generator To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 10/16/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An automotive analogy would be getting 4wd by having one engine for the front wheels, and another for the back. Possible, but freakishly weird. Hey, Car Driver mag did that with a Honda CRX! No fooling. (Hasn't this already come up on the list before, in fact?) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo with only one engine - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Yeah I was thinking pretty much along those lines, myself. Minivan is the subject of my search. Only thing that gives me pause is a story a co-worker told about how they rented a Grand Caravan and proceded to load it up with 7 adults and camping gear enough to have the springs nearly flat, then drove it around in the mountains about 1,800 miles in a week. I'd guess *most* minivans would not get that treatment, however. I do agree about the low end econo cars. Allan Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny as I was driving my rental car into Burbank today I was thinking about this. My theory of the moment is that if you were buying a nicer car it would be fine. Econobox, forget it. Econoboxes get rented, mostly I suspect, by younger people that kick the crap out of them. A nicer car that would more likely only be rented by more responsible adults would probably be okay. Witness the Civic I had some 3 years ago that I picked out because the paint was trashed. I proceeded to royally thrash it for a week. Great car, I really liked it. Today I have a Malibu that seems to be a decent car but I have no desire to go out and really flog it. My Aunt has a Volvo she bought from a rental agency, she's had terrific luck with it. -Curt Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:58:45 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes This is true. My $1300 1983 300SD is now $2800 after $200 worth of seats and $1300 for the suspension, turbo and other misc repairs. I still have the AC compressor, vac lock pump and external water leaks to fix yet which will add a few more hundred$s. Once all is sorted out, it will set me back $4K or so. I do wish I had found a lower mileage example although this one is a solid car. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam
Peraps you meant Slovenia? That is a comparative garden spot. On 10/15/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm thinking slovakia On 10/15/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is where we have had the most out migration to in recent decades. I would think that we are not as welcome as we think we would be. Better to head off to Mexico or Poland clay On 15 Oct 2007, at 11:17, Wonko the Sane wrote: Wonder if Canada can absorb the sudden influx of immigration from the US? On 10/15/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: excellent point. young people would be more interested if they were being conscripted. maybe that is the lesson our leaders took form vietnam -- don't do it unless you have a volunteer military. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
You got it. I've mentioned this to the group seveal times but I will again. I've owned 17 Mercedes to date the cheapest ones overall have been the ones that I paid too much for up front. And the reason? Everything worked was in good shape in every over priced Mercedes I bought. And every cheap Mercedes I bought cost me a minimum of $2,000 in parts (each) the first year. I'm not saying that nothing broke on the more expensive ones, only that there was much less wrong with then when I bought them. It doesn't help that I drive about 50,000 miles / year. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 04:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes This is true. My $1300 1983 300SD is now $2800 after $200 worth of seats and $1300 for the suspension, turbo and other misc repairs. I still have the AC compressor, vac lock pump and external water leaks to fix yet which will add a few more hundred$s. Once all is sorted out, it will set me back $4K or so. I do wish I had found a lower mileage example although this one is a solid car. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam
slovakia. land of the carpathian mountains and HNL hockey greats. On 10/16/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peraps you meant Slovenia? That is a comparative garden spot. On 10/15/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm thinking slovakia On 10/15/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is where we have had the most out migration to in recent decades. I would think that we are not as welcome as we think we would be. Better to head off to Mexico or Poland clay On 15 Oct 2007, at 11:17, Wonko the Sane wrote: Wonder if Canada can absorb the sudden influx of immigration from the US? On 10/15/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: excellent point. young people would be more interested if they were being conscripted. maybe that is the lesson our leaders took form vietnam -- don't do it unless you have a volunteer military. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
Does anyone know which is a good brand of solar panel? The best brand? A good source? With solar arrays and storage batteries capable of running a computer, radio, and a couple of low wattage earthlights; and with a small generator capable of running the fridges/freezers; it seems like that would be an economical combination if wood/gas/oil heating arrangements were available. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D -- - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] I say get a smaller generator and a woodstove and camp stove. I've go no generator but I do have a 100ah marine battery and 17w of solar panels which will run the laptop just fine for days and days. The woodstove heats the house easily even at -20F and a 2 burner whitegas Coleman stove will cook just fine although the meals you tend to get are a bit boring. Some charcoal and the dutch oven fix that fine. How much generator you need really depends on how much civilization you demand. -Curt From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well regardless of what they imply by american flags etc, I'll note it looks the same as any other diesel generator made in China. Some vendors supply GFCI outlets and remote starting btw, and some for a few bucks more come with sound insulating covers. Like say http://cgi.ebay.com/LONGEVITY-6500-WATT-SILENT-DIESEL-6-5KW- GENERATOR-6000_W0QQitemZ280162269729QQihZ018QQcategoryZ106437QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I have a 6500 Kw gas generator (honda powered) I bought in 1999 and I know from experience (50 straight hours last winter) that it will power, oh say some lights, the entertainment system, the office computers, a space heater or a hot plate, the fully automagic espresso coffee machine, and the fridge. So lights, TV, some heat, fridge, excellent coffee, minimal cooking. But no hot water. Still it's better than the neighbours who in the 28F weather had to flee to hotels. As pointed out you need a 10Kw + unit to really provide central gas heating and likely hot water, add in a stove (that's more...) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
My family bought a 78 Mercury Zephyr from Hertz many years ago. Lasted 10 years 100k miles w/no problems. Got me through college. Would do it again through a rental car company or through CarMax or the like as cars come off lease. Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164 1996 Civic --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
Don't forget to factor in your carbon offset purchases! --R archer wrote: Does anyone know which is a good brand of solar panel? The best brand? A good source? With solar arrays and storage batteries capable of running a computer, radio, and a couple of low wattage earthlights; and with a small generator capable of running the fridges/freezers; it seems like that would be an economical combination if wood/gas/oil heating arrangements were available. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Heater question
My old 76 300D smells like rubber whenever I turn on the heat. Anyone out there have any ideas as to why and what might be done to alleviate that issue? My 68 Chevy pickup has a similar issue but I know why and that I actually caused it with that vehicle. I pulled the heater core on it and cleaned out the box etc. There was a rubber pad or gasket or whatever cushioning the core. It was in sad condition and I thought I was doing a good thing by replacing it with a chunk of carpet underlay. Bad idea. It smells of rubber as soon as one turns on the heat. I get a similar smell on the 300D but I have never had the heater apart. Don't know if anyone else has in the past. Is this a common complaint with these old cars or is there possibly something wrong with mine that might be corrected? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
Nothing is worse for these cars than deferred maintenance. They will hit you for double what the repair would have cost if it wasn't let go. For example, if the AC compressor on my SD was replaced when it seized, it would have cost little more than the compressor itself to straighten things out. Now that moisture has entered the system, it will cost way more to fix plus the cost of the compressor. At least I bought the car cheaply enough that I can afford to put the investment in it to make it right. It would have been nice to buy one that was perfect, but it would have cost me $4K at least, and I didn't have it at the time. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
Citroen had a two-engined 4WD vehicle in production, the 2CV Sahara. It had two 12.5 hp two-cylinder engines, one at either end of the car. The gas tank was moved to under the driver and passenger's seat, so there was a fuel filler port through both doors (one for each engine!). They are worth a FORTUNE now. Jim Cathey wrote: An automotive analogy would be getting 4wd by having one engine for the front wheels, and another for the back. Possible, but freakishly weird. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 vs W123/126 suspension
Yes, the dive on a W108 can indeed be described as spectacular. It was a bit of a surprise the first time! Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:59:25 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 vs W123/126 suspension To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Ride should be pretty similar, provided the shocks are good and the rear suspension rubber is all in good shape (including the upper differential pivot mount). Handling is different -- the W108 will jack under hard cornering and has more inherent understeer than the W116/W126 chassis. Unless you have a 6.3L, you also get some rather spectacular front dive under hard braking -- doesn't cause any insurmountable handling problems, but quite a shock if you don't expect it -- no anti-dive geometry up front. I ran over a deer carcass on the highway one night -- didn't see it until too late to safely dodge. Rode right over it, I was surprised not to find chunks stuck all over the underside of the car (no, I wasn't the first vehicle to hit it, either). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
Hi, 300sd 1982 AZ. car purchased in Chicago for $1700. as a second owner 117,000 miles Maco 5 year old white with a nice black interior. Tires shot. Exhaust hanging off. I found an In. phone bill in the glove box. 2 motor mounts, right side lower arm strut rod bushing rebuild, 4 nice wheels and Pep-boys tires 90% good, heater control used, rebuild kit for vacuum pump,2 feet of vacuum hose,complete exhaust system flange back including muffler,air cleaner and 3 mounts,fuel filter,oil filter, oil change, trans filter, fluid change, B2 piston change,water pump and 4 belts, and charge the a/c. Still hot weather problems in stop and go traffic: vacuum and B2 issues?? No Cruise control. Rust repair blisters under side moldings, Trunk leaks water. The fuel gauge always reads 3/4 or full when full. The turbo drain tube leaks at the pan. I have 120k on the car now. Purchased in June 2007. I have spent 20 hours on boards in one week to put the vacuum right. I also learn about the wrong seals in the rebuild kit and used the old seals in the vacuum pump. Will a longer B2 piston dog-bone help on hot days? Where to buy one? B1?? Ed in Chicago $1700 + $1000 out of pocket so far. Drives great! 50 hours maybe?? Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes This is true. My $1300 1983 300SD is now $2800 after $200 worth of seats and $1300 for the suspension, turbo and other misc repairs. I still have the AC compressor, vac lock pump and external water leaks to fix yet which will add a few more hundred$s. Once all is sorted out, it will set me back $4K or so. I do wish I had found a lower mileage example although this one is a solid car. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
David Bruckmann wrote: Citroen had a two-engined 4WD vehicle in production, the 2CV Sahara. It had two 12.5 hp two-cylinder engines, one at either end of the car. I can envision making one of those if I could find two cheap cars, one with good body. Too bad a 2CV costs more than a 300SD. Remember the Renault 5 Turbo? Take a LeCar, intercool and turbo it, and stick the engine in the back (no engine in front). Would have made an interesting 4wd rally car if they'd gone the 2 engine route. When the Taurus SHO came out, somebody did something similar with a Festiva chassis, 220hp 3.0L V6 in the back, with Taurus SHO front suspension and brakes on both ends. Mitcb. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server
Yup - that's what happens when you let the users play with their PCs everything gets screwed up. Lock down is the only way to go. On 10/16/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, it brings up the print window, but there is nothing there to select what pages. It just says number of pages with a drop down menu that you can pick all, even, or odd. Wierd. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Friend of our family ran a Hertz agency back in the '70s, they did absolutely NO maintenance - at least at that time. Still they would be newer, they likely had regular approved service, how would you know the treatment was *any* different than a car from some used car lot which has no history... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
I think we passed around a link to video of someone who installed a secnod drive train in the back of a FWD VW a year or two ago --- It worked, at least long enough for the few minutes of video. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
It sounds like we're about even. They will both be $3500-$4K cars when completely done (are they ever actually done, NO!). If they never needed to be worked on, we wouldn't have this wonderful list. Kevin in Hillsboro, ORR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, was Cheap TD in LA
I spent $4k exactly on my SD 4 years ago, and don't regret it. It was spectacularly maintained, the exterior had been completely refreshed-- repainted bumpers, mirrors, paint buffed out, etc. No dash cracks, always garaged, etc. etc. It has cost me an ACC panel, a starter, a window regulator replacement, some belts, and a few gaskets and seals to stop oil leaks since, but that's it aside from normal maintenance (valve adjustments, oil and filter changes, filter mounts, and brakes). And it looks and performs great. Glad I didn't try to go cheaper. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, was Cheap TD in LA
1. $4K is not cheap by list-standards. $4K is two or three cars. 2. Why weren't you at the IowaQ? On 10/16/07, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent $4k exactly on my SD 4 years ago, and don't regret it. It was spectacularly maintained, the exterior had been completely refreshed-- repainted bumpers, mirrors, paint buffed out, etc. No dash cracks, always garaged, etc. etc. It has cost me an ACC panel, a starter, a window regulator replacement, some belts, and a few gaskets and seals to stop oil leaks since, but that's it aside from normal maintenance (valve adjustments, oil and filter changes, filter mounts, and brakes). And it looks and performs great. Glad I didn't try to go cheaper. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Damn 606 intake manifold.
You are not supposed to own one of those things. If it is out of warranty/off lease, it is meant to be scrapped. You are supposed to buy a new one. At 09:47 PM 10/14/2007, you wrote: Anybody figure out a way to diagnose and work on the fuel side of a 606 engine ? That big intake manifold system completely covers the entire driver side of my 606.910 engines. And it's always a PITA to diagnose and repair fuel leaks, fuel injection, and idle problems because you cannot see or reach anything on that side of the engine with the engine fully assembled and running. And I don't think you can run the engine with the intake manifold removed. It is not near as convienient as working on a 617 (and I presume 602, 3 or 4 engines). I've had limited success removing the body underside covers and laying under the car with it up on blocks. But this feels dangerous and what you can safely reach and manipulate from underneath is pretty limited. To repair anything on the FI pump side, you have to guess what the problem is, then invest a couple of hours removing and replacing the crossover and intake manifold to change some part or make adjustment. Then start the engine to see what effect it had. Usually you have to repeat that whole procedure over and over until you guessed the correct fix. I keep a stock of intake manifold gaskets to do this. Am I going about this all wrong? Has anybody else with a '95 E300D found an easier way to work on this side of the engine? Thanks, Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT microsoft exhange server
Outlook's handling of email sucks Exchange is overpriced the exchange/outlook combination has some nice features, but email is NOT one of them I like using outlook for what it can do, then use Eudora to get the email. set eudora to leave the mail on the server, at least for a day or three. Of course the exchange has to be configured for POP3 At 12:06 PM 10/15/2007, you wrote: Our company started using microsoft exhange for our email. I hate it. It requires using Outlook, which I also hate. Is there some other email program that will work with a microsoft exhange server? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
Wasn't someone looking for a W115? http://chicago.craigslist.com/chc/car/450719911.html -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - another Mercedes record -
Stuttgart's Mercedes-Benz Museum set a new record for the tallest artificially produced tornado in the world Monday by using its unique fire prevention system to create a 34.43 meter (113 feet) vortex. http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,511752,00.html There is more story and photos at the above site --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, generator
Local tire dealer has a single engine 2CV he says runs well. Needs paint and upholstery restoring. Tried to sell it to me a couple of years ago but I don't remember his price. What do you think a 2CV in good condition would be worth? Gerry - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citroen had a two-engined 4WD vehicle in production, the 2CV Sahara. It had two 12.5 hp two-cylinder engines, one at either end of the car. The gas tank was moved to under the driver and passenger's seat, so there was a fuel filler port through both doors (one for each engine!). They are worth a FORTUNE now. Jim Cathey wrote: An automotive analogy would be getting 4wd by having one engine for the front wheels, and another for the back. Possible, but freakishly weird. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, was Cheap TD in LA
There's a slightly rusty Oregon coastal '81 300D for $500 OBO with the usual problems: non-op windows, slight oil leak, broken odo and stuck fuel gauge. It starts right up and goes down the road with no problem at all. I'm awefully tempted to check it out. Psst, it's a cheap Mercedes, you know. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
I was looking for one, and may have found one. It's a '74 240D for $1000. It runs good and has a rebuilt engine (not sure if it's a backyard job or one done by a reputable shop). I'm going to email the seller to find out a little more, for example, does the heater blower work?. Stay tuned. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, was Cheap TD in LA
Looks like Kaleb's kind of car Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, was Cheap TD in LA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's a slightly rusty Oregon coastal '81 300D for $500 OBO with the usual problems: non-op windows, slight oil leak, broken odo and stuck fuel gauge. It starts right up and goes down the road with no problem at all. I'm awefully tempted to check it out. Psst, it's a cheap Mercedes, you know. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
My folks did the purchase a rental. Liked the three cars they had. No issues and they drove them across the country a number of times. Biggest issue was to get dad to install new tires when needed. All were toyota, so no data about american cars if you are looking at them. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 08:58, Allan Streib wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - another Mercedes record -
OK Don wrote: http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,511752,00.html WTF kind of fire prevention system requires a tornado?!??! Very very cool though :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - another Mercedes record -
Don and all, Just missed the mini-tornado! Two weeks ago, I was in Stuttgart on the MBCA Germany Trip and had an opportunity to go thru the MB Museum and many other local MB sites/ factories that build engines (AMG engines hand assembled), assemble cars, hold historic cars and just have a great time. Much of the process is done by robots, and it is amazing. Also went to the Technik Museum Sinsheim that has more than possible to see in a day, including a Tupelov 144 and a Concorde on stilts - accessible via circular staircase to see the interiors. For any MBCA member, I heartily endorse scheduling a tour next year! Take care, On Oct 16, 2007, at 7:28 PM, OK Don wrote: Stuttgart's Mercedes-Benz Museum set a new record for the tallest artificially produced tornado in the world Monday by using its unique fire prevention system to create a 34.43 meter (113 feet) vortex. http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,511752,00.html There is more story and photos at the above site --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, was Cheap TD in LA
There's a slightly rusty Oregon coastal '81 300D for $500 OBO... Bad skippy, no biscuit! You want a 115, remember? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts?
SVO is straight veggie, instead of WVO being waste veggie. If it is used, you have some more issues than if you pour out of a sealed jug. 2 gallons is good, as you will be really close to 10% in any tank our cars have (23 gallons in the e300d) clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 11:22, LarryT wrote: I believe VO is Vegetable Oil - but what is SVO? Also - It sounds like I can pour a gallon or 2 pf VO (SVO?) into my tank fill the rest of the way with diesel and get most of the benefits (smooth, quiet and lower stench.)? Sorry - haven't followed this thread closely. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low Sulfur Fuel Lubricity...Am I Nuts? Where you are, you should be fine with a few gallons of SVO in each tank. Will give you that same BioD benefit of smooth, quiet and lower stench. clay On 15 Oct 2007, at 13:44, Robert Rentfro wrote: Now that #2 is $3.05 here, I bought 5 gallons of SVO that was on sale to last me until tomorrow night when I have to head to work.where I can get, along the freeway, #2 at Loves for $2.85 (I hope). So I dump in the SVO and drive off and by the time I make it to the first light, it seems I am running markedly smoother and quieter. Since they have gone to exclusively low-sulfur I haven't made it into town to the closest bio pump (about 6 months or so). Does it really make that much of a difference or am I just nuts? It sounds and feels so much better it makes me want to start collecting WVO... Bob Rentfro '77 300D 182K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 6:48 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - another Mercedes record -
WTF kind of fire prevention system requires a tornado?!??! It's not a fire prevention system, so much as a system to get smoke and flames away from the cars. That way you can see them well enough to push them out of the building while the whirling vortex (read: incinerator) takes out everything else. Such is my guess. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
I suspect that Gump is the exception, much as the frankenheap is. Low initial buy in, ran her for a year with only fluid changes. She started to cost money when I decided to wrench on her myself, breaking things in the process that required professional defornication. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 14:26, Tom Hargrave wrote: You got it. I've mentioned this to the group seveal times but I will again. I've owned 17 Mercedes to date the cheapest ones overall have been the ones that I paid too much for up front. And the reason? Everything worked was in good shape in every over priced Mercedes I bought. And every cheap Mercedes I bought cost me a minimum of $2,000 in parts (each) the first year. I'm not saying that nothing broke on the more expensive ones, only that there was much less wrong with then when I bought them. It doesn't help that I drive about 50,000 miles / year. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 04:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes This is true. My $1300 1983 300SD is now $2800 after $200 worth of seats and $1300 for the suspension, turbo and other misc repairs. I still have the AC compressor, vac lock pump and external water leaks to fix yet which will add a few more hundred$s. Once all is sorted out, it will set me back $4K or so. I do wish I had found a lower mileage example although this one is a solid car. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
Very, very important since the entire car is built around the heater motor. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I was looking for one, and may have found one. It's a '74 240D for $1000. It runs good and has a rebuilt engine (not sure if it's a backyard job or one done by a reputable shop). I'm going to email the seller to find out a little more, for example, does the heater blower work?. Stay tuned. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
Yesterday morning I had _extreme_ trouble getting the car started. This car has always been hard to start, cold-blooded, but nothing as bad as that. It was chill, and very dewy, but nothing really worse than before. It just cranked and cranked and cranked. It fired once, but wouldn't stay running after I let it go to idle. After that it wouldn't start. I had to put it on the charger a bit and feed it some ether. I did some surfing, and one possibility is that if the overvoltage protection relay fails this can happen, so I'll check into that tomorrow. Otherwise... I hate gassers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
I suspect that Gump is the exception, much as the frankenheap is. And this SL. I'm into it about $50 so far. But a lot of time, most of it actually somewhat optional. If you don't mind driving a heap. Low initial buy in, ran her for a year with only fluid changes. She started to cost money when I decided to wrench on her myself, breaking things in the process that required professional defornication. But that is how Grasshopper learns. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
It's vibrating when you apply the pedal and still doing it when the car's not moving? I would have guessed a colapsed motor mount the reverse torque on the engine that's being applied while your foot is off the accelerator was causing the metal parts to meet caused the vibration. But you repleced the mounts. Any chance that the 2 small screws that hold the mounts to the sub-frame are not properly tightened? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
the entire car is built around the heater motor. Is there any way to retrofit a blower to the system without disassembling most of the car?? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Mercedes, was Cheap TD in LA
You want a 115, remember? Yeah, BTDT with the W123's, but still awefully tempting. There hasta be a good 115 out there with little to no rust and a working blower motor. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD in LA CL
On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:51, Jim Cathey wrote: I suspect that Gump is the exception, much as the frankenheap is. And this SL. I'm into it about $50 so far. But a lot of time, most of it actually somewhat optional. If you don't mind driving a heap. Low initial buy in, ran her for a year with only fluid changes. She started to cost money when I decided to wrench on her myself, breaking things in the process that required professional defornication. But that is how Grasshopper learns. It is also how Grasshopper spends nights alone in the shed since SWMBA does not take kindly to idiot husband breaking that stupid ugly old car. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
There is a chance, and I am going under in the morning to make sure all screws are tight at least to a modicum of torque. Will be looking for bushings that might be shot. I know the upper control arm needs some, as do the lowers, but I have not invested in a set of replacements and will be postponing that until spring or summer so that oldest boy will have something to work on before we take him out for driving lessons clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:57, Tom Hargrave wrote: It's vibrating when you apply the pedal and still doing it when the car's not moving? I would have guessed a colapsed motor mount the reverse torque on the engine that's being applied while your foot is off the accelerator was causing the metal parts to meet caused the vibration. But you repleced the mounts. Any chance that the 2 small screws that hold the mounts to the sub- frame are not properly tightened? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I thought that, but it is persistent while stopped, not just at engagement. I have new engine transmission mounts which cured the previous shakes. There is some rattle transmitted to the dash and steering wheel clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 20:35, Tom Hargrave wrote: Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
on 10/16/07 20:30, OK Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friend of our family ran a Hertz agency back in the '70s, they did absolutely NO maintenance - at least at that time. Yeah I worked for Budget around that time and many of their outlets did the same thing. Was well known in the industry on a nudge wink basis. This practice was especially widespread for the cars taken on 'buy-back' schemes. The rental company could sell them off OR choose to simply return them to the manufacturer on or before a certain date. Hertz in the U.S. got caught on that and paid a whopper fine to FTC or somesuch, also got nailed in a separate case for misleading claims on their used cars. I doubt that practice still exists anywhere, for several reasons: 1. Newer engines won't take it like the old detroit iron 2. Car companies caught on 3. Climate of increased liability (you can do an awful lot of oil changes for the price of one wrongful death suit where lawyers point to lack of maintenance). Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
WELL, you could ... .uh, no unless you can fashion some 12v 120mm computer fans to suck hot air through the vents involves removing the console and messing around under the dash. Otherwise you remove the dash and anything remotely attached to the front end of the cabin. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 21:00, Kevin Kraly wrote: the entire car is built around the heater motor. Is there any way to retrofit a blower to the system without disassembling most of the car?? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
on 10/16/07 11:58, Allan Streib at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Any car can be subject to abuse, just ask a dealer service manager about refused warranty claims for people with teenage kids who do serious harm to daddy's car on a Saturday nite. IF you are able to focus on a rental outlet that mainly serves either the airport or hotel/uptown/corporate market, you probably have a slightly better chance of avoiding an abused car. But in most cities rental fleets are fluid and the cars move around to different offices -- one exception being that in some larger markets, upmarket autos may be reserved for high-end clients at the airport. However, I would suggest that really your chances are about the same with an ex-rental as with anything else on a lot. Have the vehicle checked out independently by someone you trust, and try to look beyond a complete detail job for evidence of collision repair or abuse to the interior. When I worked for Budget we sold a lot of cars out to taxi drivers. Urban legend had it that they found them more reliable and longer-lived than cars purchased off private sales. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
Kevin Kraly wrote: Is there any way to retrofit a blower to the system without disassembling most of the car?? Isn't there a open up a speaker hole and go in from the top method? Does it involve a struggle and bleeding arms? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] King pin Grease OIL
Oddly my power washer specifies 30 grade non detergent oil in the pump. not quite readily available everywhere. mak Of course there are important differences between S- and C-rated oils, and of course there are applications where certain gear oils are bad. Whether this is stated on the label is entirely irrelevant. A bottle of brake fluid doesn't usually state on it that it should not be used in a mineral-oil-based brake system, but it shouldn't be used there, and doing so will destroy the system! But years and years of experience tells people, generically, that all brake systems take DOT3/4 brake fluid. But not ALL brake systems do... S rated oil which does NOT also have a C rating, particularly the new energy-saving oils, will indeed destroy a diesel engine. This is due to the reduction of additives, especially ZDDP (apparently bad for cat converters), the absence of will make short work of the wristpins in a diesel engine. Diesel-rated oils have ZDDP in much higher quantities, which is why people with older gasoline engines with flat tappets are now switching to diesel-grade oil (or using niche products like Amsoil, which still has high ZDDP) to prevent cam failure. Transmissions designed for GL4 oil (ie. many older manual transmissions) will be destroyed by GL5 oil because the higher sulfur in GL5 will attack yellow metals, including brass synchros and some bushings. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
open up a speaker hole and go in from the top Well, if it involves going in blind, I've got an advantage! :-) One of the most difficult projects I've done was replacing the wiper linkage in a '79 Pinto. There was no way anyone could look up in there to help me with that one! I had to thread everything behind the dash, line the ends up with the holes in the cowl and line up the bolt holes to mount everything up while lying on my back with my head and arms well up under there. hooking it all up to the WW motor wasn't difficult at all! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
It involves struggling, bleeding arms and at the end, a questionable repair. I replaced one by the book one time. It took me 2 weekends. When the blower motor failed in my second 1975 240D, I sold the car. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL Kevin Kraly wrote: Is there any way to retrofit a blower to the system without disassembling most of the car?? Isn't there a open up a speaker hole and go in from the top method? Does it involve a struggle and bleeding arms? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] King pin Grease OIL
That's not an uncommon specification for a small engine transmission or compressor. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M.Affzaal.Khan Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] King pin Grease OIL Oddly my power washer specifies 30 grade non detergent oil in the pump. not quite readily available everywhere. mak Of course there are important differences between S- and C-rated oils, and of course there are applications where certain gear oils are bad. Whether this is stated on the label is entirely irrelevant. A bottle of brake fluid doesn't usually state on it that it should not be used in a mineral-oil-based brake system, but it shouldn't be used there, and doing so will destroy the system! But years and years of experience tells people, generically, that all brake systems take DOT3/4 brake fluid. But not ALL brake systems do... S rated oil which does NOT also have a C rating, particularly the new energy-saving oils, will indeed destroy a diesel engine. This is due to the reduction of additives, especially ZDDP (apparently bad for cat converters), the absence of will make short work of the wristpins in a diesel engine. Diesel-rated oils have ZDDP in much higher quantities, which is why people with older gasoline engines with flat tappets are now switching to diesel-grade oil (or using niche products like Amsoil, which still has high ZDDP) to prevent cam failure. Transmissions designed for GL4 oil (ie. many older manual transmissions) will be destroyed by GL5 oil because the higher sulfur in GL5 will attack yellow metals, including brass synchros and some bushings. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
Actually, the procedure goes like this: Remove the center console Discharge the AC system Disconnect both AC lines Disconnect the under dash ductwork from the system Disconnect the climate controls from the center unit Remove the entire center unit And then the easy part - remove the fan (4 screws, from memory) And while you are in there, you might as well replace both heater cores and the expansion valve. At the same time, you need to clean out the disintegrating foam insulation that used to line the inside of the box and is now plugging up your A/C drain lines. You also need to replace the A/C receiver dryer since it's always wise to do so whenever you break into a system. They did it right on the 123 body. Remove 3 screws and the blower motor falls out, landing on your forehead causing you to bleed for 30 minutes. Much less painful - but that's another story.. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL WELL, you could ... .uh, no unless you can fashion some 12v 120mm computer fans to suck hot air through the vents involves removing the console and messing around under the dash. Otherwise you remove the dash and anything remotely attached to the front end of the cabin. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 21:00, Kevin Kraly wrote: the entire car is built around the heater motor. Is there any way to retrofit a blower to the system without disassembling most of the car?? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
In a message dated 10/16/2007 8:59:21 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan, About 15 years ago, we rented a nice Mitsubishi Diamante from Enterprise for a 25 day vacation trip. My Cherokee was in the shop after a major crash and the insurance company paid for the rental. We drove that car 12,000 miles, some at speeds over 100 miles/hr. I DID change the oil, on my own nickel, about half way through the trip, as I didn't know how many miles were on the oil before we got the car. I often wondered how many miles showed on the odometer when it went on the used car lot, cause they sure couldn't make much money at $20/day, unlimited mileage. New cars now have oil change programs built into the PCM and will tell you when it is time to change the oil. I suspect a used rental car may be a good buy, unless it has been wrecked or submerged. Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Chicago CL
To give you an idea: people frequently CUT through the firewall because it's one of the easier ways to get to the blower motor. The 114/5 blower is up there with the a/c evaporator in a W140 or the support bolt that goes into the aft end of the injection pump on a 617 engine (yes, there's a support bolt back there, and good luck getting it back in if you ever take it out). In contrast, the 123's blower is totally ridiculously easy to get at. Blowers can often be saved with a judicious drop of ATF on the motor bearing. In the 114/5, getting the oil onto the motor involves mirrors, but it can be done! D. Mitch Haley wrote: Isn't there a open up a speaker hole and go in from the top method? Does it involve a struggle and bleeding arms? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
