Re: [MBZ] Posers
(I've seen people try to do it, resulting in an odd shaped tailgate when the gooseneck hits the gate and bends it) BTDT! I caught my dad a bit too late as I heard the 5th wheel kiss the gate before he got the truck stopped. It put a slight dent in the gate's inner panel, but could have been A LOT worse if he was going any faster! In a later episode, he ended up dropping the trailer onto the truck bed and crushing it! We got a nice, used bed, had it painted and put on, and sold the whole setup after taking our last trip in it. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ballard
Redghost wrote: Now that truly sucks! I have been following his progress wondering when we would be able to see his work on the road and ready for prime time use. I always figured that would be some time after the first successful hydrogen well was drilled. ;-) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: syncronized swimming is def the new hotness
Look at the ladies playing tennis also. Luther Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote: http://machochip.com/Bia%20And%20Branca%20Feres%202.jpg Also anyone know if Allison Stokke is on the Olympic team? I'd like to give her a pole to vault.. http://thefront.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/stokke.jpg?w=275h=400 Man, I have never been so excited about the summer Olympics. They even have a black dude on the Russian basketball team. -Rolf ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
I seem to remember a conversation while in your car. Me: Do you have this thing floored? Don: No, I do not want to loose Regina (driving a mid '90's 420SEL) and Kaleb (driving John's '91or2 300D 2.5). Luther Wonko the Sane wrote: I occasionally have to drive on I-80 and I-35 in the Ames and Des Moines areas. Granted, we don't have any on-ramps with a 15 percent uphill grade, but I've never had issues with getting up to respectable speed before merging in my amazingly-slow 240D, and my particular vehicle is among the slowest of the slow. Just ask any IowaQ attendees who had to follow me down to my office. Yea, it is max force on the pedal and lean slightly forward but I am normally up to at least 60 mph (with a speed limit of 65 mph, meaning 75) by the time I need to merge. Most limited access highways were constructed with sufficient acceleration room prior to merging. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I feel that unless one lives in an area where they are likely to be shot or otherwise attacked, then the hard-charging drivers who tailgate can drive off into oblivion and die, wasting fuel all the way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
And here I thought I was the lone dissenting voice. MA is a state known for agressive drivers and I drove my 240D for something like 50,000 miles commuting 90 miles daily. It regularly made trips into Boston including the fabled 128 corridor. It also regularly was pulled to the governor and held there for an hour at a time. Nobody would mistake it for a fast car but it was a totally adequate daily driver. Sure I got flipped off occasionally and less frequently honked at but I think its looking old and in the case of my 240D pretty ratty, helped people put things into perspective. -Curt Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:38:02 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I feel that unless one lives in an area where they are likely to be shot or otherwise attacked, then the hard-charging drivers who tailgate can drive off into oblivion and die, wasting fuel all the way. The 240D has all the power to accelerate that is needed, except for up steep hills with a lot of cargo. I like that it's being acknowledged more in the media these days that hard acceleration wastes fuel. Of course, this is not so much the case with diesels - I mean accelerating faster taking more fuel? Brian Steve echoed: But I echo the note about freeways. Not only merging, but even keeping up with urban freeway traffic patterns isn't a fun proposition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exciting
I worked at the airport back in college days, and the fire trucks they had at that time would do 0-60 in one minute, belching huge clouds of diesel exhaust. But I still wanted one. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTyv8f-_8Mwfeature=related ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
Did you read the Herald, shave, talk on the phone, and curse at other drivers (all at the same time) while commuting on 128? --R Curt Raymond wrote: And here I thought I was the lone dissenting voice. MA is a state known for agressive drivers and I drove my 240D for something like 50,000 miles commuting 90 miles daily. It regularly made trips into Boston including the fabled 128 corridor. It also regularly was pulled to the governor and held there for an hour at a time. Nobody would mistake it for a fast car but it was a totally adequate daily driver. Sure I got flipped off occasionally and less frequently honked at but I think its looking old and in the case of my 240D pretty ratty, helped people put things into perspective. -Curt Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:38:02 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I feel that unless one lives in an area where they are likely to be shot or otherwise attacked, then the hard-charging drivers who tailgate can drive off into oblivion and die, wasting fuel all the way. The 240D has all the power to accelerate that is needed, except for up steep hills with a lot of cargo. I like that it's being acknowledged more in the media these days that hard acceleration wastes fuel. Of course, this is not so much the case with diesels - I mean accelerating faster taking more fuel? Brian Steve echoed: But I echo the note about freeways. Not only merging, but even keeping up with urban freeway traffic patterns isn't a fun proposition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] (no subject)
Danny, Glad to hear that-that was my guess. One more thing. Put at least a couple pre filters in the car before you go to VT-you could still have crud in the tank that will reappear. Ask me how I know. Dwight Dwight, Got to VT the car was back to it's usual great self, found myself doing 85 a few times with out even realizing it and accelerating going up the hills when i wanted to pass!! The only victim was the mileage which looks to be back to 32 - 33, judging by the gage, haven't t refilled yet. Always have a pre-filter in the trunk in the tool bag, the one in the car that i swapped out was not too bad looking, Tend to change them every 10K when doing Mobil1 filter changes, i buy them 6 to 10 at a time from Rusty, figure it's cheap insurance. It turns out the main filter was in too long; missed it on the last 30K major workup. Won't do that again!! Interesting that i missed a big clue on the last few trips the mileage was too good to be true i was getting 37 on the road and 35 in my daily commute of 65 miles round trip. Guess there is something to a lean fuel mixture - if there are no hills to climb : ). danny 68 200d 126,000 my toy 85 300d 166K (spare car) 90 300d 84K (donor car RIP) 91 300d 333,400 miles, my daily driver 93 300d 171K (resurrected by donor car) 96 Subaru Legacy 87K (wife's car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to know when rust is terminal...
Well the electrolysis is going well. Left the tank in overnight, and all the rust appears to be converted, and the paint that had rust bubbles under it is now very loose and easily scrapes off revealing shiny steel underneath. Only problem is that the poly sheeting I am using to line the crate had a small tear in it near the top of one side, so I can't completely fill the box and fully submerge the tank. So I'm having to rotate the thing periodically and it's tanking twice as long. Sure beats scraping and wire brushing though. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
I never commuted on 128, I've driven fast on it at 2am though... Commuting on 128 is a lot like walking on 128... -Curt --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 10:04 AM Did you read the Herald, shave, talk on the phone, and curse at other drivers (all at the same time) while commuting on 128? --R Curt Raymond wrote: And here I thought I was the lone dissenting voice. MA is a state known for agressive drivers and I drove my 240D for something like 50,000 miles commuting 90 miles daily. It regularly made trips into Boston including the fabled 128 corridor. It also regularly was pulled to the governor and held there for an hour at a time. Nobody would mistake it for a fast car but it was a totally adequate daily driver. Sure I got flipped off occasionally and less frequently honked at but I think its looking old and in the case of my 240D pretty ratty, helped people put things into perspective. -Curt Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:38:02 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I feel that unless one lives in an area where they are likely to be shot or otherwise attacked, then the hard-charging drivers who tailgate can drive off into oblivion and die, wasting fuel all the way. The 240D has all the power to accelerate that is needed, except for up steep hills with a lot of cargo. I like that it's being acknowledged more in the media these days that hard acceleration wastes fuel. Of course, this is not so much the case with diesels - I mean accelerating faster taking more fuel? Brian Steve echoed: But I echo the note about freeways. Not only merging, but even keeping up with urban freeway traffic patterns isn't a fun proposition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
I was getting on 128 off 93N one morning, traffic was stop and go, some idiot was jamming on her brakes trying to get the guy behind to hit her. Not sure what started it, but when they hit a stop, they both got out of their cars and were yelling at each other, she came at him and the guy punches her in the face, knocked her down right in the road. She gets up takes a swing at him, he clocks her again, knocks her down. She gets up again, takes another swing, he punches her again and knocks her down. Traffic started moving again and everyone drove by with her lying in the road. They were both dressed very nicely, maybe early 30s. I bet she looked nice getting to work. Just another morning on the 128 commute. --R Curt Raymond wrote: I never commuted on 128, I've driven fast on it at 2am though... Commuting on 128 is a lot like walking on 128... -Curt --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 10:04 AM Did you read the Herald, shave, talk on the phone, and curse at other drivers (all at the same time) while commuting on 128? --R Curt Raymond wrote: And here I thought I was the lone dissenting voice. MA is a state known for agressive drivers and I drove my 240D for something like 50,000 miles commuting 90 miles daily. It regularly made trips into Boston including the fabled 128 corridor. It also regularly was pulled to the governor and held there for an hour at a time. Nobody would mistake it for a fast car but it was a totally adequate daily driver. Sure I got flipped off occasionally and less frequently honked at but I think its looking old and in the case of my 240D pretty ratty, helped people put things into perspective. -Curt Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:38:02 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I feel that unless one lives in an area where they are likely to be shot or otherwise attacked, then the hard-charging drivers who tailgate can drive off into oblivion and die, wasting fuel all the way. The 240D has all the power to accelerate that is needed, except for up steep hills with a lot of cargo. I like that it's being acknowledged more in the media these days that hard acceleration wastes fuel. Of course, this is not so much the case with diesels - I mean accelerating faster taking more fuel? Brian Steve echoed: But I echo the note about freeways. Not only merging, but even keeping up with urban freeway traffic patterns isn't a fun proposition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles
Jesus, Mary and Joseph I may be going to the Basilica! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/788646681.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles
Not a word about how it has made 28 years with only 59 kmi. I may have wanted to go to the Basilica, myself. Wilton - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles Jesus, Mary and Joseph I may be going to the Basilica! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/788646681.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Continuing 240D Saga
Pulled the rear brakes all apart today, got to use my new 24v impact wrench (more on that in a followup message). Everything seemed okay, car probably needs rotors and pads since its sat a lot in the last year. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it like it is though. The sticky parking brake appears to be caused by the cables, they probably need replacing. I think I've gotten loosened adequately for now though. Dirty job -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bought an impact wrench
As I mentioned in the last message. There was a tool show on Thursday nearby where I picked up a Pro Tech 24v Impact Wrench http://www.toolsnow.com/browse.cfm/4,1281.html It turns out to actually be a pretty good gizmo. It doesn't blast the lug nuts off the car but given a 10-20 seconds it cranks 'em off pretty good. There were a couple it couldn't manage but remember the car has been sitting for a long time and those I had to get off with my super duper crank shaped lug wrench which I had to JUMP ON. Anyway, time will tell how well it survives but I don't think I'll ever work it too hard, I think it'll be fine. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles
I saw that car at the auction preview this morning.? Very nice condition overall, and the nicest dash I have seen in 20 years.? The NADA book was $5800 with the premium for mileage and condition bumping it up over 12K.? Seeing that target, I did not wait around to see what it went for.? I will sell my 79 for $4500.? Just as nice, except for the dash. Jim in Phoenix Jesus, Mary and Joseph I may be going to the Basilica! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/788646681.html -Original Message- From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 9:04 am Subject: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles Jesus, Mary and Joseph I may be going to the Basilica! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/788646681.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exciting
That bird went poof! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exciting I worked at the airport back in college days, and the fire trucks they had at that time would do 0-60 in one minute, belching huge clouds of diesel exhaust. But I still wanted one. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTyv8f-_8Mwfeature=related ** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut0005000 017 ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 8/8/2008 9:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 8/8/2008 9:02 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire size vs inflation question (non-MB)
hey John! why would you recommend narrower tires than stock? about the only thing narrower tires might be better at is cutting through snow or standing water,... but odds are that it won't make much of a difference even at that between those 2 sizes. yes, you would have to run a higher tire pressure to make up for the lower amount of contact patch. this might also reduce traction on wet and/or snowy roads due to the reduced ability of the tire to conform to the road surface. what it *will* do is make the speedo and odometer read higher, and odds are that you'll get a tire that has a lower weight rating and that lower weight-rated tire is going to be running with less of a margin between your load and its maximum capacity and build up heat (a tires worst enemy) sooner. since you'll also have less tread on the road, it'll also reduce some of your braking capacity; reaching and exceeding maximum traction more quickly in emergency situations. sorry to sound so fatalistic, but what was the perceived advantage? cheers! e John Robbins wrote: So my brother just ordered some new tires for his Sebring, and Tirerack has an interesting suggestion. The stock tire size is 215/60R15, and he ordered 205/60R15. I suggested the slightly narrower tire for when he goes up to Chicago for his Navy training since my understanding is that narrower tires to better than wide ones. Tirerack calls him up and says that he would need to run higher than normal tire pressures though... On the order of 36 PSI. Two questions, was I on crack for the smaller width suggestion? And why the higher tire pressure? I've never heard of such a thing, but Tirerack is a very reputable company. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2-wheelers (was: Re: Pininfarina dies in scooter accident)
speaking as someone who is both a cyclist and a motorcyclist, let me first make clear that i see many people doing both badly. in bicycling, enthusiasts will often make a distinction between themselves as cyclists, and distance themselves from those who just happen to be riding bicycles (all-too-often badly) by referring to them as bicycle riders. i generally try to follow the rules of the road while bicycling, but there are many arguments of how it is more efficient and practical for non-motorized vehicles to be subject to a slightly different set of rules than those set up for motor vehicles on Amerikun roads. (as food for thought, consider that in some other arguably civilized countries, there are many situations where no Stop is required at an intersection unless it's necessary to avoid a conflict with another vehicle.) under no circumstances do i support ever riding a bicycle on a sidewalk. of course, since people are people, i see examples of all these rules broken daily, with wildly varying levels of skill, competence, or regard for safety. in motorcycling, you'll find rules, laws and practice vary widely depending on where you are. for example, in California, there is no law against sharing a lane with another vehicle and/or passing another vehicle in the same lane as long as there is room for both vehicles to fit, and there is no law specifically against a motorcyclist moving between lines of other vehicles on the same side of the road as long as done in such a manner as to not be judged unsafe. (note: there is a huge amount of room for interpretation by LEOs in this regard.) in some other countries, this is all routinely done much more aggressively than what we see here. if you're trickling your way to the front between lines of stopped cars on your motorcycle, that's no problem, since it's not likely any stopped car is going to jump sideways, and it's illegal for any car to open their door and interfere with other traffic (including you). bonus for all motorists is that you're not going to be taking up space in a lane that another vehicle could make use of, and due to the general nature of motorcycles you're likely to be down the road and never in the way of any other vehicle as soon as the light changes; everyone wins. if you're playing car slalom on your motorcycle overtaking vehicles that are moving much slower than you are, you can (and probably should) get a ticket. of course, since people are people, i see examples of all these rules broken daily, with wildly varying levels of skill, competence, or regard for safety. as for scooters, it seems that most people i see on scooters in the US don't recognize that they are sharing the roads with other vehicles... i've yet to see one that looks like they're prepared for an unscheduled get-off. i'll note again that either activity can be (and is frequently) done badly, typically by the Too Cool Set suffering from YMIS*. however, it is my opinion that neither activity should be subject to exactly the same set of rules and laws as cars and trucks, as they are very different kinds of vehicles. sadly, since it *far* too easy to get a drivers license in the USA and it seems the Amerikun Way to dumb down rules and laws to the level of understanding of the Lowest Common Denominator, i fear it may be a while (if ever) before we see each activity judged for what it really is and laws adjusted to accommodates each accordingly. cheers! e *Young Male Invincibility Syndrome Allan Streib wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's not exactly irony - but something like it? I have been thinking that with the increase in scooters on the road will come the accidents. Same thing with the increase in bicycle riders on the road. All need to learn the rules of the road. Around here, bicylists are by far the largest group who think the rules don't apply to them. They ignore stop signs, stop lights, one way streets, pedestrians, ride on sidewalks, ride against traffic, you name it. Then scooters/mopeds, and then motorcycles. The motorcyclists for the most part do pretty well, but occasionally will pass in a no pass zone, or cut ahead at a stoplight between lanes. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2-wheelers (was: Re: Pininfarina dies in scooter accident)
We call those who weave in out of traffic zip splats. It's just a matter of time before the rider zips between two cars splats into another car that's changing lanes or pulling into traffic or puts on the brakes to make a turn. And, of course, if the rider survives, it's always the car's fault for pulling in front of him! Cars, bikes and motorcycles are all machines none of them care about who's at fault. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 2-wheelers (was: Re: Pininfarina dies in scooter accident) speaking as someone who is both a cyclist and a motorcyclist, let me first make clear that i see many people doing both badly. in bicycling, enthusiasts will often make a distinction between themselves as cyclists, and distance themselves from those who just happen to be riding bicycles (all-too-often badly) by referring to them as bicycle riders. i generally try to follow the rules of the road while bicycling, but there are many arguments of how it is more efficient and practical for non-motorized vehicles to be subject to a slightly different set of rules than those set up for motor vehicles on Amerikun roads. (as food for thought, consider that in some other arguably civilized countries, there are many situations where no Stop is required at an intersection unless it's necessary to avoid a conflict with another vehicle.) under no circumstances do i support ever riding a bicycle on a sidewalk. of course, since people are people, i see examples of all these rules broken daily, with wildly varying levels of skill, competence, or regard for safety. in motorcycling, you'll find rules, laws and practice vary widely depending on where you are. for example, in California, there is no law against sharing a lane with another vehicle and/or passing another vehicle in the same lane as long as there is room for both vehicles to fit, and there is no law specifically against a motorcyclist moving between lines of other vehicles on the same side of the road as long as done in such a manner as to not be judged unsafe. (note: there is a huge amount of room for interpretation by LEOs in this regard.) in some other countries, this is all routinely done much more aggressively than what we see here. if you're trickling your way to the front between lines of stopped cars on your motorcycle, that's no problem, since it's not likely any stopped car is going to jump sideways, and it's illegal for any car to open their door and interfere with other traffic (including you). bonus for all motorists is that you're not going to be taking up space in a lane that another vehicle could make use of, and due to the general nature of motorcycles you're likely to be down the road and never in the way of any other vehicle as soon as the light changes; everyone wins. if you're playing car slalom on your motorcycle overtaking vehicles that are moving much slower than you are, you can (and probably should) get a ticket. of course, since people are people, i see examples of all these rules broken daily, with wildly varying levels of skill, competence, or regard for safety. as for scooters, it seems that most people i see on scooters in the US don't recognize that they are sharing the roads with other vehicles... i've yet to see one that looks like they're prepared for an unscheduled get-off. i'll note again that either activity can be (and is frequently) done badly, typically by the Too Cool Set suffering from YMIS*. however, it is my opinion that neither activity should be subject to exactly the same set of rules and laws as cars and trucks, as they are very different kinds of vehicles. sadly, since it *far* too easy to get a drivers license in the USA and it seems the Amerikun Way to dumb down rules and laws to the level of understanding of the Lowest Common Denominator, i fear it may be a while (if ever) before we see each activity judged for what it really is and laws adjusted to accommodates each accordingly. cheers! e *Young Male Invincibility Syndrome Allan Streib wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's not exactly irony - but something like it? I have been thinking that with the increase in scooters on the road will come the accidents. Same thing with the increase in bicycle riders on the road. All need to learn the rules of the road. Around here, bicylists are by far the largest group who think the rules don't apply to them. They ignore stop signs, stop lights, one way streets, pedestrians, ride on sidewalks, ride against traffic, you name it. Then scooters/mopeds, and then motorcycles. The motorcyclists for the most part do pretty well, but occasionally will pass in a no pass zone, or cut
Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D advice
Now That's my idea of Equal Rights! Brian Rich wrote:they both got out of their cars and were yelling at each other, she came at him and the guy punches her in the face, knocked her down right in the road. She gets up takes a swing at him, he clocks her again, knocks her down. She gets up again, takes another swing, he punches her again and knocks her down. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2-wheelers (was: Re: Pininfarina dies in scooter accident)
Many interesting points, Ernest. I agree that there ought to be slightly different rules for different types of vehicles. A few tid bits: The other day I was cycling along a state hwy that runs through town (yes, bikes are allowed on the wide shoulder, and it's a major bike commuter route. Though many people feel bikes have no place on a highway like that). Anyway, a girl on a scooter zips around the left of me and cuts into the shoulder and rides along on the shoulder. This shoulder-riding by scooters sends an ambiguous message I want no part of. In King County, WA (Seattle, etc.) riding on the sidewalk is legal. I was very surprised to hear that. I feel it's a good idea. Sure, some pedestrians will be endangered by irresponsible cyclists, but bikes being able to get off the road when needed is great. The distinction between cyclists and bicycle riders you mentioned is interesting. Yeah, I run into a lot of elitists on two wheels around here. Some have competed, and I respect that, but they seem to really be arrogant people. Personally, I can both be found in spandex tearing up the road on a lightweight road bike (but never fully decked out in wannabe clothing), and other times tooling along on an old bike I got for free, carrying groceries on my back. Your point coincides with mine in that experienced cyclists usually have an idea of the rules of the road, where the family who drives the Suburban to a spot to unload the dusty garage bikes and swerve around on a sunny day, usually do not. On the other hand, I get upset when I see experienced-looking cyclists blatently breaking laws. This only further enrages the motoring community. One more thing here: While cyclists have the right to ride two abreast, and do have the right to ride in the lane of traffic, it ticks me off (yes, even me) when I see cyclists not staying as far right as is safe (which the law does require by the way). Yes, I know about the right to take the lane when it's not safe for a car to pass. Brian On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:33 AM, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking as someone who is both a cyclist and a motorcyclist, let me first make clear that i see many people doing both badly. in bicycling, enthusiasts will often make a distinction between themselves as cyclists, and distance themselves from those who just happen to be riding bicycles (all-too-often badly) by referring to them as bicycle riders. i generally try to follow the rules of the road while bicycling, but there are many arguments of how it is more efficient and practical for non-motorized vehicles to be subject to a slightly different set of rules than those set up for motor vehicles on Amerikun roads. (as food for thought, consider that in some other arguably civilized countries, there are many situations where no Stop is required at an intersection unless it's necessary to avoid a conflict with another vehicle.) under no circumstances do i support ever riding a bicycle on a sidewalk. of course, since people are people, i see examples of all these rules broken daily, with wildly varying levels of skill, competence, or regard for safety. in motorcycling, you'll find rules, laws and practice vary widely depending on where you are. for example, in California, there is no law against sharing a lane with another vehicle and/or passing another vehicle in the same lane as long as there is room for both vehicles to fit, and there is no law specifically against a motorcyclist moving between lines of other vehicles on the same side of the road as long as done in such a manner as to not be judged unsafe. (note: there is a huge amount of room for interpretation by LEOs in this regard.) in some other countries, this is all routinely done much more aggressively than what we see here. if you're trickling your way to the front between lines of stopped cars on your motorcycle, that's no problem, since it's not likely any stopped car is going to jump sideways, and it's illegal for any car to open their door and interfere with other traffic (including you). bonus for all motorists is that you're not going to be taking up space in a lane that another vehicle could make use of, and due to the general nature of motorcycles you're likely to be down the road and never in the way of any other vehicle as soon as the light changes; everyone wins. if you're playing car slalom on your motorcycle overtaking vehicles that are moving much slower than you are, you can (and probably should) get a ticket. of course, since people are people, i see examples of all these rules broken daily, with wildly varying levels of skill, competence, or regard for safety. as for scooters, it seems that most people i see on scooters in the US don't recognize that they are sharing the roads with other vehicles... i've yet to see one that looks like they're prepared for an unscheduled get-off. i'll note again that
Re: [MBZ] WAS Ballard NOW Propane conversions mpg equivalent?
I once read that the mpg equivalent for natural gas (propane) cars was under 10. Is this so, and why? On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Redghost wrote: Now that truly sucks! I have been following his progress wondering when we would be able to see his work on the road and ready for prime time use. I always figured that would be some time after the first successful hydrogen well was drilled. ;-) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb Car?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/782729056.html Bound to be some great parts on this baby. Would drag it home myself, but I am deep in doghouse for pestering SWMBA about Kaleb's SL. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles
Rob and Wilton, I went up there in Phoenix this morning. It's an auction company and they do the mechanics and give the proceeds to the charity. Quite an experience. The 1980 300SD was all correct as far as I could tell. Was probably one of the last built. History was one owner, husband passed away and widow gave it to the church. Nice looking vinyl window sills were discolored by sun, but dash was NOT cracked. Engine compartment pretty clean. Vacuum seemed to work - all doors unlocked - started rather well - looked like an original servo. After two hours of sitting in the heat, I decided to throw in the towel. Could not get an opinion as to when they would put the 300SD on the block. If I can find out what it went for, I will post it For comparison, the MB Classic Center has an '80 300SD on the floor in Irvine, CA w/1300 (yes, that's thirteen hundred) miles. Price is posted at $65,000. New cost was about $30k.. Take care... Chuck Phoenix AZ On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: Not a word about how it has made 28 years with only 59 kmi. I may have wanted to go to the Basilica, myself. Wilton - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles Jesus, Mary and Joseph I may be going to the Basilica! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/788646681.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Ballard NOW Propane conversions mpg equivalent?
andrew strasfogel wrote: I once read that the mpg equivalent for natural gas (propane) cars was under 10. Is this so, and why? http://www.nafa.org/Template.cfm?Section=Energy_Equivalents I had an interesting discussion with a friend last night. He bought a flex fuel Silverado, and told me it was supposed to get 1/2 mpg less on E85 than on gasoline. I told him that I thought a 20mpg truck would get closer to 13mpg on E85 than 19.5 mpg. He assured me I was wrong, and as soon as he put some E85 through it he'd have the numbers to prove it. I guess I know somebody who's gullible enough to believe anything a car salesman tells him. 20 mpg / 1.4 = 14.3 mpg. (would have been closer to 13 mpg if E100 were used) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 88 Mercedes wagon w rear seat! Not Diesel
Charleston SC http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/789141344.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 TD- Excellent Cond- Third Seat, Sunroof - $6000
Another wagon. I think this guy has been smokin some wacky tabacky. --R http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/789129998.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
Rodbender? Perfect condition though. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/784510532.html Mechanically perfect, well maintained daily driver. A/C, P/S, P/B, P/W, A/T, Cruise,AM/FM/CD. Sunroof. 6cyl turbo diesel. good fuel mileage. All service up to date. Good tires ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 19:01 -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: I regret making that Traction Avant comment. Looked up a picture of it after I sent that message, and it was pretty nifty. There use to be a street rod here in Dallas made out of one of those .. I don't know what it is about the French ...for some reason they are fun to tease esp. about mechanical stuff. In hell the mechanics are French but in heaven the cooks are French. Technically I am My father did not speak English until he entered grade school as a child in the 20's and My mothers father had a Louisiana French name. My mothers mother was from New England, and her mother was an accomplished painter so I was always from new England :-). George Larribeau Dallas Texas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
86 is not a rod bender year, neither is 87. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500 Rodbender? Perfect condition though. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/784510532.html Mechanically perfect, well maintained daily driver. A/C, P/S, P/B, P/W, A/T, Cruise,AM/FM/CD. Sunroof. 6cyl turbo diesel. good fuel mileage. All service up to date. Good tires ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 8/8/2008 9:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 8/8/2008 9:02 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles
I love the look of the W116. Too much for too old a car in this case though. Despite the condition, every part on that car is approaching 30 years old. And low miles can be as hard as high miles in some ways. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
Rodbenders are the 350 engines, not the 300 right? Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rodbender? Perfect condition though. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/784510532.html Mechanically perfect, well maintained daily driver. A/C, P/S, P/B, P/W, A/T, Cruise,AM/FM/CD. Sunroof. 6cyl turbo diesel. good fuel mileage. All service up to date. Good tires ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
Right. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 3:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500 Rodbenders are the 350 engines, not the 300 right? Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rodbender? Perfect condition though. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/784510532.html Mechanically perfect, well maintained daily driver. A/C, P/S, P/B, P/W, A/T, Cruise,AM/FM/CD. Sunroof. 6cyl turbo diesel. good fuel mileage. All service up to date. Good tires ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 8/8/2008 9:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 8/8/2008 9:02 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] definition of a volvo driver
George Larribeau wrote: My mothers father had a Louisiana French name. Acadian? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
Allan Streib wrote: Rodbenders are the 350 engines, not the 300 right? Right, but some of the 3.5s had names like S300D. The easiest way to remember is if it's a 126 or 140 from the 1990's, it's got a defective 3.5 or a replacement engine in it, or it wasn't made for the USA market. If it's a 300SDL from the 1980's it has a solid bottom end, just watch out for trap oxidizers and cracked heads. AFAIK, all the 1990's E class (W124 and W210) engines were pretty solid, but the 606 had some fuel line issues. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles
I know somebody who can change (RR) a dash! Wilton - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles I saw that car at the auction preview this morning.? Very nice condition overall, and the nicest dash I have seen in 20 years.? The NADA book was $5800 with the premium for mileage and condition bumping it up over 12K.? Seeing that target, I did not wait around to see what it went for.? I will sell my 79 for $4500.? Just as nice, except for the dash. Jim in Phoenix Jesus, Mary and Joseph I may be going to the Basilica! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/788646681.html -Original Message- From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 9:04 am Subject: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles Jesus, Mary and Joseph I may be going to the Basilica! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/788646681.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Continuing 240D Saga
What about the hood? Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: [MBZ] Continuing 240D Saga Pulled the rear brakes all apart today, got to use my new 24v impact wrench (more on that in a followup message). Everything seemed okay, car probably needs rotors and pads since its sat a lot in the last year. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it like it is though. The sticky parking brake appears to be caused by the cables, they probably need replacing. I think I've gotten loosened adequately for now though. Dirty job -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles
Wow! 'Does sound good. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles Rob and Wilton, I went up there in Phoenix this morning. It's an auction company and they do the mechanics and give the proceeds to the charity. Quite an experience. The 1980 300SD was all correct as far as I could tell. Was probably one of the last built. History was one owner, husband passed away and widow gave it to the church. Nice looking vinyl window sills were discolored by sun, but dash was NOT cracked. Engine compartment pretty clean. Vacuum seemed to work - all doors unlocked - started rather well - looked like an original servo. After two hours of sitting in the heat, I decided to throw in the towel. Could not get an opinion as to when they would put the 300SD on the block. If I can find out what it went for, I will post it For comparison, the MB Classic Center has an '80 300SD on the floor in Irvine, CA w/1300 (yes, that's thirteen hundred) miles. Price is posted at $65,000. New cost was about $30k.. Take care... Chuck Phoenix AZ On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: Not a word about how it has made 28 years with only 59 kmi. I may have wanted to go to the Basilica, myself. Wilton - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles Jesus, Mary and Joseph I may be going to the Basilica! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/788646681.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
'Not a rodbender. '90, '91 350SD's SDL's (126's) and '92 - 94/5 350 140's are the rodbenders, though my 91 350SDL @ 191 kmi seems OK so far, 'cept broken triming chain at 89 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500 Rodbender? Perfect condition though. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/784510532.html Mechanically perfect, well maintained daily driver. A/C, P/S, P/B, P/W, A/T, Cruise,AM/FM/CD. Sunroof. 6cyl turbo diesel. good fuel mileage. All service up to date. Good tires ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
I remember plenty of list dicussions concerning rodbenders and how only factory rebuilt engines were free from the problem. I recently stumbled across this vendor, Metric Motors and wondered if they were close enough to factory or if their engines would rodbend as well. http://www.mercedesengines.net/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rich Thomas Subject: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500 Rodbender? Perfect condition though. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/784510532.html Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3982 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080809/5ce518bd/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
I do believe (could be wrong though) that the venerable Dr. Booth stated that Metric motors were good for 617 engine rebuilds, but that even their rebuilds of the 603.971 (rod bender) engines didn't last. Only a factory rebuild was acceptable. On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Smith, Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember plenty of list dicussions concerning rodbenders and how only factory rebuilt engines were free from the problem. I recently stumbled across this vendor, Metric Motors and wondered if they were close enough to factory or if their engines would rodbend as well. http://www.mercedesengines.net/ -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 Hood Release Cable Lubrication?
I just purchased a hood release cable from Rusty and the W123 Service Library from the Classical Center. I have to say that for me, being able to look at the service guide has helped immensely. I have taken the old cable out and was perparing to install the new cable when it dawned on me that there was no mention of lubrication in the manual. If you were installing a new hood release cable on a 85 300CD, would you lubricate it? What kind of grease or oil to use and how to apply it? The old cable was a bare wire but the new cable is partially sheathed. Thanks for the time Todd Smith Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3910 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080809/97d1e71f/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Secret message to Luther, 603 head job
We just finished installing the pre-chambers and injectors in the newly machined head - the special tools should be heading home soon. THANKS ! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
I didn't know if they would be able to correctly rebuild an rodbender or not. Their price is what I remember Marshall said that a factory motor was going for. Thanks Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of OK Don Sent: Sat 8/9/2008 10:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500 I do believe (could be wrong though) that the venerable Dr. Booth stated that Metric motors were good for 617 engine rebuilds, but that even their rebuilds of the 603.971 (rod bender) engines didn't last. Only a factory rebuild was acceptable. On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Smith, Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember plenty of list dicussions concerning rodbenders and how only factory rebuilt engines were free from the problem. I recently stumbled across this vendor, Metric Motors and wondered if they were close enough to factory or if their engines would rodbend as well. http://www.mercedesengines.net/ -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5046 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080809/f0264613/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '80 300SD 58Kmiles
Wilton, That '80 300SD went for $5,000. Not in my wallet!! Take care, Chuck On Aug 9, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: Wow! 'Does sound good. Thanks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - $5500
OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do believe (could be wrong though) that the venerable Dr. Booth stated that Metric motors were good for 617 engine rebuilds, but that even their rebuilds of the 603.971 (rod bender) engines didn't last. Only a factory rebuild was acceptable. I think it had to do with the hardening of the cylinder walls that only the factory could do properly. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Hood Release Cable Lubrication?
Smith, Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you were installing a new hood release cable on a 85 300CD, would you lubricate it? What kind of grease or oil to use and how to apply it? The old cable was a bare wire but the new cable is partially sheathed. I like Lubriplate Chain and Cable fluid for this kind of thing. http://www.lubriplate.com/webstore/detail.aspx?ID=5 There's some kind of gizmo for lubricating cable in the sheath, can probably find it at a good bicycle or motorcycle shop, or... http://store.albaaction.com/shop/MS003001.html Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 88 Mercedes wagon w rear seat! Not Diesel
Mercedes nondiesel wagons are so BORING. This one isn't http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/cto/789926593.html On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charleston SC http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/789141344.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 TD- Excellent Cond- Third Seat, Sunroof - $6000
Not necessarily but where are the photos? On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another wagon. I think this guy has been smokin some wacky tabacky. --R http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/789129998.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Hood Release Cable Lubrication?
It seems than at Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:06:57 -0400, Smith, wrote: I have taken the old cable out and was perparing to install the new cable when it dawned on me that there was no mention of lubrication in the manual. If you were installing a new hood release cable on a 85 300CD, would you lubricate it? LPS-3 It's good enough it's used for light aircraft control cables. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
