[MBZ] V8 CIS
My 1987 420SEL has developed a miss on one cylinder. Did some debugging and found the CIS appears to be problem. Swapped with a spare unit I had and about 1 week latter a miss appeared on the same cylinder. I can plumb that output of the CIS to a different cylinder and miss moves with it. Does anyone know what would cause the CIS to fail on the same cylinder or is just my luck? I guess the big question becomes do I replace CIS, try to build a electronic fuel injection system, or rebuild a OM617 for the car. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D AC
I will have to check that out. Vacuum seems just fine to me. Probalby a sensor. As for the 134, when I had it going before the last leak, it cooled just fine with 134 even in a 90+ day. I did change out the expansion valve etc also. Tyler Backman wrote: > Have you checked all of the pins on your climate control with a > multimeter per the instructions on > http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html? > Some of the instructions are wrong for later model 190Ds, but for > anything pre-87 I think they should be correct. > > Since your heater vale closes unless the dial is all the way to "min" > I would suspect one of the temperature sensors telling the control > unit it is colder than it actually is. Putting it all the way on "min" > overrides the temp sensor input, and shuts the heater off no matter > what. > > Have you checked the vacuum at the heater valve? My 190D was running > the heater valve open while running the AC because of a vacuum leak > which prevented it from closing all the way (full vacuum to the valve > shuts it off). I tested all of the electronics with a multimeter, and > they were all functioning correctly. Since I live near LA where I > basically never need heat, I ran a permanent vacuum line from the pump > to the heater valve, and now the AC works perfectly. If for some > reason it did get cold (which it won't- ever) I could just put it back > the way it was in 10 seconds. I'll probably fix it *properly* before I > drive up to visit family in the colder(er) pacific northwest. > > Why are you using R134a instead of R12? The stock AC systems on 190Ds > are weak enough as it is with R12, I doubt they would ever work well > with R134a, especially in hot/humid climates. My AC system works > really hard to keep the car cool with R12 I had to wire the dual > electric fans to run constantly on the condenser, and I shut off the > AC system when I am stopped in traffic because it stops blowing cold, > and the motor starts warming up. > > Sincerely, > Tyler William H Backman > 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel > > On Sep 25, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> Well, the AC saga continues. I had to have the manifold hoses >> rebuilt, >> installed them yesterday. Pulled a vacuum for 2 hours, then let it it >> sit all night and day till this evening, still holding vacuum at same >> level. Put a little 134 in it, sniffer did not see any leaks. Fully >> charged and it worked of course. Will see how long it holds. >> Before it >> leaked out overnight. That was when I found the leak in the front >> compressor seal. Or so I though. Replaced the compressor, same leak. >> Thats when I found the pinhole in the hose, right by the compressor. >> The other compressor probably was not leaking at all. >> >> I also noticed that after a while of running, the heater valve opens >> back up unless you have the dial all the way to min. Anybody know >> anything about these 201 climate controls? Wonder if its a sensor >> somewhere or the control unit. I also dont seem to get much air out >> of >> the side vents but do out the center just fine. >> -- >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK >> 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, >> 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, >> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, >> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date: 9/26/2008 > 7:35 AM > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trapped key
You need to adjust the start/stop cable to the IP Redghost wrote: > OH! That would be really close to the issue. The off does not work > really well on Gump anymore. I have to push all the way in and hope > she shuts off. When she does not, I pop the clutch and just kill it. > Maybe that is not working well anymore and I have to screw around more. > > Used to be able to remove the key while running though. Maybe that > has been resolved with the use of Mobil 1, as many of the other sloppy > parts on Gump seem to have gotten closer to spec the more I drive and > the longer Mobil 1 runs through. > > clay > > > > > On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > >>> I need big help. Gump has decided to eat my key. Stuck in the on >>> position and will not turn or come out. What is the standard action >>> to take to liberate it? >> That car has the interlock between the starting knob and >> the key switch. It won't allow the key to be turned to >> off unless the start knob is in, so I suspect that little >> Bowden cable is sticky or something. Try working the >> starter a bunch to see if it loosens up. Might want to >> disconnect the battery first so you can really work it >> without actually exercising the starter and battery. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date: 9/26/2008 > 7:35 AM > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trapped key
The cable came loose or broke that goes from the start/stop knob to the ing switch. There is a cable that prevents the key from turning back when the start/stop knob is pulled out. Just pull the cluster and get a better look at it. ITs right there. Redghost wrote: > Not able to get the ring off from around the cylinder to access the > lock mechanism. Been trying to figure out how to attack it and it is > dark there anyway. Already replaced flashlights once. > > clay > > On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: > >> BTW, there's a small slot in the face of the cylinder just to the >> left and >> above the top of the key slot. In #1 position, this small slot >> aligns with >> another slot in the cylinder case to allow insertion of a wire to >> release a >> lock that holds the cylinder in place. Can you insert a wire an >> inch or so >> into this slot now? If so it's in #1. >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:45 PM >> Subject: [MBZ] Trapped key >> >> >>> I need big help. Gump has decided to eat my key. Stuck in the on >>> position and will not turn or come out. What is the standard action >>> to take to liberate it? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Clay >>> Seattle Bioburner >>> >>> 1972 220D - Gump >>> 1995 E300D - Cleo >>> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA >>> The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date: 9/26/2008 > 7:35 AM > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D AC
Well, this thing opens all the way, and you get just about full out out the side vents, while getting cool or somewhat cool are out the center Jim Cathey wrote: >> I also noticed that after a while of running, the heater valve opens >> back up unless you have the dial all the way to min. Anybody know >> anything about these 201 climate controls? Wonder if its a sensor >> somewhere or the control unit. I also dont seem to get much air out of >> the side vents but do out the center just fine. > > They all open the heater up to a greater or lesser degree > if not on MIN, once the interior temperature has been determined > to be stabilized. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1691 - Release Date: 9/25/2008 > 7:23 PM > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Web page maintenance
O web page, how do I update thee? Let me count the ways! 1) Open the appropriate file with my favorite editor, emacs. OK, it's usually always running, and the file is usually already open. Not even a step, really. 2) At the end of the file, M-x today-insert, which I usually abbreviate to "toda" since that's all that's required. Automatically puts in a line such as: Friday, September 26, 2008 3) Type my invaluable (unvaluable?) thoughts. Purple Prose is optional. Compose in HTML directly. Perfect for those of us that prefer TeX to Word, anyday. 4) If Chicken, preview the page before publication. Usually Firefox is open on the page already, just hit refresh. If not: "M-! open page.html". 5) Publish. "M-! ./doupdate" Script sends all updated pages to the ftp/http server automatically. That's it. Repeat daily. Hardly ever leave emacs, just as it should be. Need to find something in some page somewhere? "M-X grep blibble *.html". C-X-` through the hits. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap OM601/2/3 Diesel Vacuum Pump
So, you can gamble on the old one nto failing, you can gamble on the new one in hand, or you can spent the big bucks on a known quantity from Rusty -- you pays your money, and makes your choice. I think I'd use the new, unknown one that's in hand. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It is sure a funky looking thing. Not at all like a Pierburg. > > Vaguely resembles one, but that cover sure is different. > Doesn't mean it's no good. Doesn't mean it's good, either. > > -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
Make sure the surgical instructions say morals and nor molars. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I am having an operation to remove all morals next month. > > Hendrik > who still has a few morals but not for long > > Wilton Strickland wrote: > > You seem to understand our "system" of the last several years very well. > > When're you moving to Wall St? > > > > Wilton > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
I am having an operation to remove all morals next month. Hendrik who still has a few morals but not for long Wilton Strickland wrote: > You seem to understand our "system" of the last several years very well. > When're you moving to Wall St? > > Wilton > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
Oh, you forgot - ya gotta drive a 9000 lb. RBV (Ridiculously Big Vehicle - SUV). Wilton - Original Message - From: "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read] > You seem to understand our "system" of the last several years very well. > When're you moving to Wall St? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:58 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read] > > > > I think I should go into the money lending business, all I need is a a > > rubber stamp with the word 'APPROVED' on it. Pay myself millions and > > when it goes wrong the taxpayer will pick up the bill. > > Of course I will have to pay out millions in commission for the people > > who are supposed to keep an eye on me, just so they say I am doing a > > great job. Then there are the political donations but that is no problem > > because I am spending the taxpayers money. > > However it won't go wrong because the market will always keep rising and > > before you know we will all be billionaires, well everybody except the > > taxpayer funding it all, they'll just have to keep working to keep the > > cycle of money going. I'll be thinking of them while I am sitting in my > > luxury villa in that nice little tax haven. > > Ohh sorry forgot about the suckers, err I mean 'clients' whom I lend > > money to, guess they'll feel like even bigger losers but that's OK they > > are used to it and if we didn't have trailer park folks who would we > > poke fun at, to make our selfs feel superior? Although now they won't be > > able to afford to rent a trailer and we'll have to call them homeless > > folks. I hope they took a picture of their home before they had to leave > > it, just so they got some memories of what might have been. You just > > never know, perhaps in the next greed cycle they could become temporary > > homeowners again. > > > > Hendrik > > who is off to buy a suit, rubber stamp and may stop in at the MB dealer > > to check out an S class or two, perhaps an SL for the weekend, ahh > > bugger it I'll have one of each class, after all the taxpayer is footing > > the bill, although thinking this through an armor plated car might not > > be a bad idea > > > > Allan Streib wrote: > > > I kinda like the idea I heard today > > > > > > The bailout of the sub-prime mess is now being touted as a "wise > > > investment" for the taxpayers. The idea being the government buy up all > > > these loans, deriviative securities, whatever -- at the current market > > > value. Then when the market eventually recovers they sell them and > > > recoup the money plus trillions more. > > > > > > The problem of course is that the government never met a dollar it did > > > not spend, so we'd never get that money back. It would just grow the > > > size of the government. > > > > > > The idea was, go ahead and do this, but issue stock certificates to each > > > taxpayer representing their stake in the bail out. Then when the market > > > recovers each taxpayer can sell his share, continue to hold it, whatever > > > he wants to do. > > > > > > Of course it'll never happen that way, because the government does not > > > trust us with our own money. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trapped key
> The Knob will pull fully out with key turned or not. Broken! > Used to be able to turn power off, but keep engine going, and walk > away with the key. Broken! (Possibly handy, but broken nonetheless.) > Now I can not get it to even turn to position 0 or > 1. Does that "feature" have any relation to the engine shut off? I'm sure. That little cable worked both ways, to ensure that the key was on before/while the engine was spinning. The cable's gotten stuck in the "Run" position. Just IMHO. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D AC
> instructions on http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html? > Some of the instructions are wrong for later model 190Ds, but for > anything pre-87 I think they should be correct. Would love to have any corrections to add to it! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap OM601/2/3 Diesel Vacuum Pump
> It is sure a funky looking thing. Not at all like a Pierburg. Vaguely resembles one, but that cover sure is different. Doesn't mean it's no good. Doesn't mean it's good, either. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes?
> Thinking of upgrading the lightpipes for better dash lights, Good idea. Aluminum foil is very shiny and won't burn. > 3 years of xenon dash bulbs seems to have melted the boxes That's why you shouldn't use them. Stick to stock bulbs, but improve reflectivity instead. You line the box, sure, but more important is to line the light pipe. It really works. Brings it up to almost feeble, as opposed to tragically pathetic. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Change...I mean help is on the way???]
Phe ... ! (You owe me a bottle of Windex and some paper towels.) On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Hendrik > who thinks the list mom should maintain a slightly higher standard > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
You seem to understand our "system" of the last several years very well. When're you moving to Wall St? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read] > I think I should go into the money lending business, all I need is a a > rubber stamp with the word 'APPROVED' on it. Pay myself millions and > when it goes wrong the taxpayer will pick up the bill. > Of course I will have to pay out millions in commission for the people > who are supposed to keep an eye on me, just so they say I am doing a > great job. Then there are the political donations but that is no problem > because I am spending the taxpayers money. > However it won't go wrong because the market will always keep rising and > before you know we will all be billionaires, well everybody except the > taxpayer funding it all, they'll just have to keep working to keep the > cycle of money going. I'll be thinking of them while I am sitting in my > luxury villa in that nice little tax haven. > Ohh sorry forgot about the suckers, err I mean 'clients' whom I lend > money to, guess they'll feel like even bigger losers but that's OK they > are used to it and if we didn't have trailer park folks who would we > poke fun at, to make our selfs feel superior? Although now they won't be > able to afford to rent a trailer and we'll have to call them homeless > folks. I hope they took a picture of their home before they had to leave > it, just so they got some memories of what might have been. You just > never know, perhaps in the next greed cycle they could become temporary > homeowners again. > > Hendrik > who is off to buy a suit, rubber stamp and may stop in at the MB dealer > to check out an S class or two, perhaps an SL for the weekend, ahh > bugger it I'll have one of each class, after all the taxpayer is footing > the bill, although thinking this through an armor plated car might not > be a bad idea > > Allan Streib wrote: > > I kinda like the idea I heard today > > > > The bailout of the sub-prime mess is now being touted as a "wise > > investment" for the taxpayers. The idea being the government buy up all > > these loans, deriviative securities, whatever -- at the current market > > value. Then when the market eventually recovers they sell them and > > recoup the money plus trillions more. > > > > The problem of course is that the government never met a dollar it did > > not spend, so we'd never get that money back. It would just grow the > > size of the government. > > > > The idea was, go ahead and do this, but issue stock certificates to each > > taxpayer representing their stake in the bail out. Then when the market > > recovers each taxpayer can sell his share, continue to hold it, whatever > > he wants to do. > > > > Of course it'll never happen that way, because the government does not > > trust us with our own money. > > > > Allan > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
Welcome to 2008 America. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I think I should go into the money lending business, all I need is a a > rubber stamp with the word 'APPROVED' on it. Pay myself millions and > when it goes wrong the taxpayer will pick up the bill. > Of course I will have to pay out millions in commission for the people > who are supposed to keep an eye on me, just so they say I am doing a > great job. Then there are the political donations but that is no problem > because I am spending the taxpayers money. > However it won't go wrong because the market will always keep rising and > before you know we will all be billionaires, well everybody except the > taxpayer funding it all, they'll just have to keep working to keep the > cycle of money going. I'll be thinking of them while I am sitting in my > luxury villa in that nice little tax haven. > Ohh sorry forgot about the suckers, err I mean 'clients' whom I lend > money to, guess they'll feel like even bigger losers but that's OK they > are used to it and if we didn't have trailer park folks who would we > poke fun at, to make our selfs feel superior? Although now they won't be > able to afford to rent a trailer and we'll have to call them homeless > folks. I hope they took a picture of their home before they had to leave > it, just so they got some memories of what might have been. You just > never know, perhaps in the next greed cycle they could become temporary > homeowners again. > > Hendrik > who is off to buy a suit, rubber stamp and may stop in at the MB dealer > to check out an S class or two, perhaps an SL for the weekend, ahh > bugger it I'll have one of each class, after all the taxpayer is footing > the bill, although thinking this through an armor plated car might not > be a bad idea > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
Hendrik & Fay wrote: > I think I should go into the money lending business, all I need is a a > rubber stamp with the word 'APPROVED' on it. Pay myself millions and > when it goes wrong the taxpayer will pick up the bill. I think you have nicely summarized the moral hazard of rewarding failure with government largess. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Change...I mean help is on the way???]
You meant to start off with "To all my moronic conservative friends" I am not going to spend time explaining how the economy works, as it would be a waste of time, seeing you spend all day browsing www.moronswhojustworkedouthowtouseacomputerandarenowthinkingtheyknowhowtotheeconmyworks.com or other right wing 'online think tanks'. However I will give you a clue, anything a Government does takes a while to flow through and you have given the reasons for the second part in the first. Although you failed to put in there record (and largely unjustified) CEO wages and bonuses, factories going offshore, uncontrolled lending of money, a couple of wars sucking up billions Do you actually believe this crap or is this supposed to be funny? A good example of the stupidity is that the author (who does not even put his/her name to this garbage, although one would suspect a certain individual with the initials GWB might have been at the computer) writes up the top "George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine." and then towards the end "REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS. (remember high school history that we slept through?)" So what's the go there? I think whoever spewed this right wing junk slept through everything and should be put back to sleep. Hendrik who thinks the list mom should maintain a slightly higher standard Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > > > > > TO ALL MY FRIENDSLIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVEFYI only. > > > > > > > > > > George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy > > was fine. > > > > A little over one year ago : > > 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high; > > 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon; > > 3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%. > > 4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 + > > 5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations > > > > > > But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a > > Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right. In the PAST YEAR: > > > > 1) Consumer confidence has plummeted; > > 2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing; > > 3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase); > > 4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION > > DOLLARS and prices still dropping; > > 5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure. > > 6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~ $2.5 > > TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS > & MUTUAL FUNDS > > INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS! > > > > > > YES, IN 2006 > > AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE...AND WE SURE GOT IT! ... > > > > REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY > CONGRESS. (remember high school history that we slept through?) > > > > AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. > > > > NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY > > > > GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS > > > > JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trolling
I know what you mean. I've had production server when I was at the State up for 500+ days and would reboot them just to make sure they did! Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Tyler Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:00:33 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trolling When I used to do computer support for the OSU college of science, I often had to work on 80 and early 90s Sun workstations running Solaris or SunOS. Often they had as much as 5 years of uptime, and were still running stable. I felt as if I was destroying some rare archeological artifact when I rebooted them to see if my configuration changes would "stick." Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I just thought I'd mention that out of curiosity I checked > to see how long this 1998 233 MHz Mac G3 (OSX 10.2.8) has been > running since the last reboot. According to "uptime", it's > 97 days, and I know the last reboot was caused by the UPS not > doing its job correctly. (I also will shut it down if we're > going to be gone for more than a couple of days.) Crashes > are _extremely_ rare, once I got rid of the bad memory stick. > > It's what I use to do my e-mail, maintain my web site, read > the FSM on, and access the EPC via Virtual PC. I also use > Illustrator on it to make schematics, because even though it's > our slowest smallest OSX Mac, it's got the biggest screen. > (21" Sony E500.) It could use a bit more memory as it's only > got 384 MB and occasionally gets a bit swappy, but other than > that it's been pretty darned satisfactory. (Limit yourself to > only one large application [Firefox+Acrobat, Illustrator, VPC] > at a time and it doesn't thrash at all.) > > Especially since it was free. Six years ago. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Change...I mean help is on the way???]
TO ALL MY FRIENDSLIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVEFYI only. George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine. A little over one year ago : 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high; 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon; 3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%. 4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 + 5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right. In the PAST YEAR: 1) Consumer confidence has plummeted; 2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing; 3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase); 4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping; 5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure. 6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~ $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS! YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE...AND WE SURE GOT IT! ... REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS. (remember high school history that we slept through?) AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080926/5f1c45df/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
I think I should go into the money lending business, all I need is a a rubber stamp with the word 'APPROVED' on it. Pay myself millions and when it goes wrong the taxpayer will pick up the bill. Of course I will have to pay out millions in commission for the people who are supposed to keep an eye on me, just so they say I am doing a great job. Then there are the political donations but that is no problem because I am spending the taxpayers money. However it won't go wrong because the market will always keep rising and before you know we will all be billionaires, well everybody except the taxpayer funding it all, they'll just have to keep working to keep the cycle of money going. I'll be thinking of them while I am sitting in my luxury villa in that nice little tax haven. Ohh sorry forgot about the suckers, err I mean 'clients' whom I lend money to, guess they'll feel like even bigger losers but that's OK they are used to it and if we didn't have trailer park folks who would we poke fun at, to make our selfs feel superior? Although now they won't be able to afford to rent a trailer and we'll have to call them homeless folks. I hope they took a picture of their home before they had to leave it, just so they got some memories of what might have been. You just never know, perhaps in the next greed cycle they could become temporary homeowners again. Hendrik who is off to buy a suit, rubber stamp and may stop in at the MB dealer to check out an S class or two, perhaps an SL for the weekend, ahh bugger it I'll have one of each class, after all the taxpayer is footing the bill, although thinking this through an armor plated car might not be a bad idea Allan Streib wrote: > I kinda like the idea I heard today > > The bailout of the sub-prime mess is now being touted as a "wise > investment" for the taxpayers. The idea being the government buy up all > these loans, deriviative securities, whatever -- at the current market > value. Then when the market eventually recovers they sell them and > recoup the money plus trillions more. > > The problem of course is that the government never met a dollar it did > not spend, so we'd never get that money back. It would just grow the > size of the government. > > The idea was, go ahead and do this, but issue stock certificates to each > taxpayer representing their stake in the bail out. Then when the market > recovers each taxpayer can sell his share, continue to hold it, whatever > he wants to do. > > Of course it'll never happen that way, because the government does not > trust us with our own money. > > Allan > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V8 CIS
The parts had been filled with a mixture of varnish and water for over a decade, and corrosion had rusted through the fuel tank, and the pumps had pumped chunks of rusty metal into each component, along with the varnish. Each part would have needed disassembly by hand and cleaning, and most of these parts are very difficult to take apart and rebuild. It only took a few hours of work to install all new parts, and I had them anyways since I was also buying the parts car as a donor to convert my car to a manual. K-Jet doesn't like to sit for decades on end outdoors in a damp climate with a nearly empty fuel tank. If you added a fuel stabilizer, and kept the tank nearly full you should probably be fine Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Tyler Backman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Have you considered swapping on an entire used k-jet system (every >> component) from another car? I had to do this on a k-jet 1975 Volvo >> that had been sitting in a field for 15 years, and the fuel had >> varnished. I had to replace the entire fuel system including the >> pumps, fuel tank, injectors, fuel distributor, control pressure >> regulator, etc. > > Seems like an awful lot of work. No way to clean the original system > in place? Or did you just figure that you were going to have to R&R > each part for a bath in solvent, and you might as well expend less > effort to replace them with known good components instead? > > Now I'm worrying about the two fuel-injected gas cars I have sitting > behind my barn waiting for their turn to get fixed up and run again. > (Been about a year since either was driven, but I did add Sta-Bil to > the tank and let each car idle for a while to work it through the fuel > system before I shut 'em off and took out the batteries.) > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V8 CIS
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Tyler Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you considered swapping on an entire used k-jet system (every > component) from another car? I had to do this on a k-jet 1975 Volvo > that had been sitting in a field for 15 years, and the fuel had > varnished. I had to replace the entire fuel system including the > pumps, fuel tank, injectors, fuel distributor, control pressure > regulator, etc. Seems like an awful lot of work. No way to clean the original system in place? Or did you just figure that you were going to have to R&R each part for a bath in solvent, and you might as well expend less effort to replace them with known good components instead? Now I'm worrying about the two fuel-injected gas cars I have sitting behind my barn waiting for their turn to get fixed up and run again. (Been about a year since either was driven, but I did add Sta-Bil to the tank and let each car idle for a while to work it through the fuel system before I shut 'em off and took out the batteries.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rusty
For Rusty and BuyMBParts. "Let's give three cheers and three cheers more for the gallant Captain Of our spare parts store" With abject apologies to Mr Gilbert. Rusty did it again! My springs are here! 190DT, broken front springs, trying to arranged a loaner from my friend Luke, scramble, scramble etc. etc. Joanne's sis is coming up from NC and Joanne will give her the Toyota for the duration. Would have been roller skate time. Tip 'o the hat to Rusty. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel this and diesel that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap OM601/2/3 Diesel Vacuum Pump
I've always suspected that a cheap imitation must exist, given the popularity of 190Ds as taxis in poorer nations (as mentioned in the book My Mercedes is not for sale). I find it hard to believe that those cars are still operating at 300k+ miles with the original vacuum pumps, that the cars were being used in heavy traffic without power brake assist, or that the owners had dumped $300 on a vacuum pump. The only logical explanation is that they must be using a cheap imitation that can be had for a small fraction of the cost of an OEM quality pump, and I think I now have one of those. If they are widely used, I should be able to (somehow) figure out if they're generally reliable without testing it first on my own engine Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: > It is sure a funky looking thing. Not at all like a Pierburg. > > Rusty Cullens > BuyMBparts, Inc. > Tel 1-800-741-5252 > Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trolling
When I used to do computer support for the OSU college of science, I often had to work on 80 and early 90s Sun workstations running Solaris or SunOS. Often they had as much as 5 years of uptime, and were still running stable. I felt as if I was destroying some rare archeological artifact when I rebooted them to see if my configuration changes would "stick." Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I just thought I'd mention that out of curiosity I checked > to see how long this 1998 233 MHz Mac G3 (OSX 10.2.8) has been > running since the last reboot. According to "uptime", it's > 97 days, and I know the last reboot was caused by the UPS not > doing its job correctly. (I also will shut it down if we're > going to be gone for more than a couple of days.) Crashes > are _extremely_ rare, once I got rid of the bad memory stick. > > It's what I use to do my e-mail, maintain my web site, read > the FSM on, and access the EPC via Virtual PC. I also use > Illustrator on it to make schematics, because even though it's > our slowest smallest OSX Mac, it's got the biggest screen. > (21" Sony E500.) It could use a bit more memory as it's only > got 384 MB and occasionally gets a bit swappy, but other than > that it's been pretty darned satisfactory. (Limit yourself to > only one large application [Firefox+Acrobat, Illustrator, VPC] > at a time and it doesn't thrash at all.) > > Especially since it was free. Six years ago. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trolling
Once I got a B&W G3 and retired the Beige, I've had no trouble at all with OS X. I upgraded from 10.2.8 to 10.3.9 because it won't run more than one large application at a time, but I didn't have any more boot or freeze problems once I was off the internal SCSI buss on the Beige -- very troublesome, that system. Peter On Sep 26, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I just thought I'd mention that out of curiosity I checked > to see how long this 1998 233 MHz Mac G3 (OSX 10.2.8) has been > running since the last reboot. According to "uptime", it's > 97 days, and I know the last reboot was caused by the UPS not > doing its job correctly. (I also will shut it down if we're > going to be gone for more than a couple of days.) Crashes > are _extremely_ rare, once I got rid of the bad memory stick. > > It's what I use to do my e-mail, maintain my web site, read > the FSM on, and access the EPC via Virtual PC. I also use > Illustrator on it to make schematics, because even though it's > our slowest smallest OSX Mac, it's got the biggest screen. > (21" Sony E500.) It could use a bit more memory as it's only > got 384 MB and occasionally gets a bit swappy, but other than > that it's been pretty darned satisfactory. (Limit yourself to > only one large application [Firefox+Acrobat, Illustrator, VPC] > at a time and it doesn't thrash at all.) > > Especially since it was free. Six years ago. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V8 CIS
Clogging the same cylinder twice sure seems like an unusual coincidence. It's a long shot, but is it possible that your fuel filter has failed, and is allowing dirt particles to directly enter the fuel system? Converting a k-jet car to megasquirt, etc. would be a lot of work. I'd only consider it if I also planned to make major modifications to an engine that the stock system was unable to adapt to (such as turbocharging). Have you considered swapping on an entire used k-jet system (every component) from another car? I had to do this on a k-jet 1975 Volvo that had been sitting in a field for 15 years, and the fuel had varnished. I had to replace the entire fuel system including the pumps, fuel tank, injectors, fuel distributor, control pressure regulator, etc. I even had to replace all of the clothing I wore while working on the system, since 3 washes in the washing machine failed to get rid of the horrible gasoline varnish smell. I think the total cost was about zero, because I was able to get all of the components from a parts car that I later recovered more than the purchase price of when I recycled the unibody for scrap metal. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Trampas wrote: > I basically used a longer injection line to plumb port over to > neighboring > cylinder and vise-verse. > > Well I had a spare fuel distributor that I got from Kaleb which is > what I > replaced the first unit with that caused problem to go away for a > week. It > was just strange that two fuel distributors plugged up on same > cylinder in > same way. Also I did put a new fuel injector in just in case. > > I am really thinking about making a electronic fuel injection > conversion for > the car as that I have not been a big fan of the CIS system. However > the > previous fuel distributor did last for 247k miles so I have had no > reason to > change what worked. > > Trampas > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes?
Thank you Mr. Wizard. Turns out I had no idea what mylar actually is... Now I do. It also turns out that the mylar on the inside of balloons (at least a big seahorse balloon) isn't all that shiny at all... I guess it'll be aluminum foil for me... Managed to break a lightpipe thinking I could get it out, DOH! -Curt --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 5:25 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > In case anybody is curious (I was) mylar does indeed burn when a direct flame is applied... It's my understanding that polyester film burns like...polyester. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes?
Curt Raymond wrote: > In case anybody is curious (I was) mylar does indeed burn when a direct flame > is applied... It's my understanding that polyester film burns like...polyester. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes?
In case anybody is curious (I was) mylar does indeed burn when a direct flame is applied... I don't know if that means it'll burn from the heat of the bulbs or not... -Curt --- On Fri, 9/26/08, TE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: TE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 5:21 PM Just putting a coating over the light pipes (e.g. Mylar, foil, etc.) doesn't do much for lighting in general, but there is still a noticeable improvement. I put Mylar over the light pipes on my old 240D and it made it better, but still considerably dim when compared to more modern instrument cluster illumination. I would use Mylar, as it has over 97% reflectivity rating. TE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:11 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes? Pulled the cluster from my 240D today, I had it out a month ago to fix the trip meter and bodged it back together. Now that I'm keeping the car I decided to fix it right, or more right anyway... Thinking of upgrading the lightpipes for better dash lights, thought I could maybe use mylar from a mylar balloon which I just happen to have hanging around deflated. Then I noticed that 3 years of xenon dash bulbs seems to have melted the boxes the bulbs live in a bit. Wondering if mylar is strong against that kind of heat. I was using my hot glue gun on another project and stuck a piece of mylar to it, it deformed a bit and stuck to the glue but it doesn't seem to be hurt in any way... While we're at it I appear to have forgotten how the light pipe upgrade really works. Right now I'm thinking to just line the little light boxes with either the mylar or aluminum foil. Considering the brown that has developed in there from the melting I can see it being a good upgrade... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
I kinda like the idea I heard today The bailout of the sub-prime mess is now being touted as a "wise investment" for the taxpayers. The idea being the government buy up all these loans, deriviative securities, whatever -- at the current market value. Then when the market eventually recovers they sell them and recoup the money plus trillions more. The problem of course is that the government never met a dollar it did not spend, so we'd never get that money back. It would just grow the size of the government. The idea was, go ahead and do this, but issue stock certificates to each taxpayer representing their stake in the bail out. Then when the market recovers each taxpayer can sell his share, continue to hold it, whatever he wants to do. Of course it'll never happen that way, because the government does not trust us with our own money. Allan -- 1983 300D (for sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V8 CIS
Beating the line near the fuel head with a wrench might help, or just get another fuel head. Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Tyler Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:20:55 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] V8 CIS When you "plumb [the] output" are you swapping injectors, fuel lines, or just ports on the fuel distributor? If it's just ports on the fuel distributor, it's likely that there is some debris lodged in the distributor preventing fuel from flowing properly to that cylinder. I'd recommend just getting a good used fuel distributor from a junkyard. It would probably only take a few minutes to install, including adjusting the idle air/fuel ratio based on feedback from the O2 sensor. Just get one that hasn't been sitting for a long time and is full of varnished fuel. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Trampas wrote: > My 1987 420SEL has developed a miss on one cylinder. Did some > debugging and > found the CIS appears to be problem. Swapped with a spare unit I had > and > about 1 week latter a miss appeared on the same cylinder. I can > plumb that > output of the CIS to a different cylinder and miss moves with it. > > > > Does anyone know what would cause the CIS to fail on the same > cylinder or is > just my luck? > > > > I guess the big question becomes do I replace CIS, try to build a > electronic > fuel injection system, or rebuild a OM617 for the car. > > > > Trampas > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes?
Just putting a coating over the light pipes (e.g. Mylar, foil, etc.) doesn't do much for lighting in general, but there is still a noticeable improvement. I put Mylar over the light pipes on my old 240D and it made it better, but still considerably dim when compared to more modern instrument cluster illumination. I would use Mylar, as it has over 97% reflectivity rating. TE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:11 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes? Pulled the cluster from my 240D today, I had it out a month ago to fix the trip meter and bodged it back together. Now that I'm keeping the car I decided to fix it right, or more right anyway... Thinking of upgrading the lightpipes for better dash lights, thought I could maybe use mylar from a mylar balloon which I just happen to have hanging around deflated. Then I noticed that 3 years of xenon dash bulbs seems to have melted the boxes the bulbs live in a bit. Wondering if mylar is strong against that kind of heat. I was using my hot glue gun on another project and stuck a piece of mylar to it, it deformed a bit and stuck to the glue but it doesn't seem to be hurt in any way... While we're at it I appear to have forgotten how the light pipe upgrade really works. Right now I'm thinking to just line the little light boxes with either the mylar or aluminum foil. Considering the brown that has developed in there from the melting I can see it being a good upgrade... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mylar for lightpipes?
Pulled the cluster from my 240D today, I had it out a month ago to fix the trip meter and bodged it back together. Now that I'm keeping the car I decided to fix it right, or more right anyway... Thinking of upgrading the lightpipes for better dash lights, thought I could maybe use mylar from a mylar balloon which I just happen to have hanging around deflated. Then I noticed that 3 years of xenon dash bulbs seems to have melted the boxes the bulbs live in a bit. Wondering if mylar is strong against that kind of heat. I was using my hot glue gun on another project and stuck a piece of mylar to it, it deformed a bit and stuck to the glue but it doesn't seem to be hurt in any way... While we're at it I appear to have forgotten how the light pipe upgrade really works. Right now I'm thinking to just line the little light boxes with either the mylar or aluminum foil. Considering the brown that has developed in there from the melting I can see it being a good upgrade... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap OM601/2/3 Diesel Vacuum Pump
It is sure a funky looking thing. Not at all like a Pierburg. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "Tyler Backman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cheap OM601/2/3 Diesel Vacuum Pump >I got a brand new Vacuum pump for my 190D on ebay from the UK for only > 30 pounds ($55 USD): > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=230285188397 > > I did it because I was certain it must be a Pierburg, because nobody > makes imitations as far as I know. I was wrong- it does appear to be > an imitation (or a rebuilt pierburg with the logos ground off), but it > seems to be high quality, and it has the upgraded bearing design which > will keep the balls from coming free inside the timing chain cover. > > Does anyone have a idea what this thing really is? Would you put it on > your car? My old pump works fine, but at 220k miles, I am afraid it is > going to fail catastrophically and damage the engine, and this was too > good a deal to pass up. > > Sincerely, > Tyler William H Backman > 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V8 CIS
I basically used a longer injection line to plumb port over to neighboring cylinder and vise-verse. Well I had a spare fuel distributor that I got from Kaleb which is what I replaced the first unit with that caused problem to go away for a week. It was just strange that two fuel distributors plugged up on same cylinder in same way. Also I did put a new fuel injector in just in case. I am really thinking about making a electronic fuel injection conversion for the car as that I have not been a big fan of the CIS system. However the previous fuel distributor did last for 247k miles so I have had no reason to change what worked. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Backman Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] V8 CIS When you "plumb [the] output" are you swapping injectors, fuel lines, or just ports on the fuel distributor? If it's just ports on the fuel distributor, it's likely that there is some debris lodged in the distributor preventing fuel from flowing properly to that cylinder. I'd recommend just getting a good used fuel distributor from a junkyard. It would probably only take a few minutes to install, including adjusting the idle air/fuel ratio based on feedback from the O2 sensor. Just get one that hasn't been sitting for a long time and is full of varnished fuel. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Trampas wrote: > My 1987 420SEL has developed a miss on one cylinder. Did some > debugging and > found the CIS appears to be problem. Swapped with a spare unit I had > and > about 1 week latter a miss appeared on the same cylinder. I can > plumb that > output of the CIS to a different cylinder and miss moves with it. > > > > Does anyone know what would cause the CIS to fail on the same > cylinder or is > just my luck? > > > > I guess the big question becomes do I replace CIS, try to build a > electronic > fuel injection system, or rebuild a OM617 for the car. > > > > Trampas > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V8 CIS
When you "plumb [the] output" are you swapping injectors, fuel lines, or just ports on the fuel distributor? If it's just ports on the fuel distributor, it's likely that there is some debris lodged in the distributor preventing fuel from flowing properly to that cylinder. I'd recommend just getting a good used fuel distributor from a junkyard. It would probably only take a few minutes to install, including adjusting the idle air/fuel ratio based on feedback from the O2 sensor. Just get one that hasn't been sitting for a long time and is full of varnished fuel. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Trampas wrote: > My 1987 420SEL has developed a miss on one cylinder. Did some > debugging and > found the CIS appears to be problem. Swapped with a spare unit I had > and > about 1 week latter a miss appeared on the same cylinder. I can > plumb that > output of the CIS to a different cylinder and miss moves with it. > > > > Does anyone know what would cause the CIS to fail on the same > cylinder or is > just my luck? > > > > I guess the big question becomes do I replace CIS, try to build a > electronic > fuel injection system, or rebuild a OM617 for the car. > > > > Trampas > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap OM601/2/3 Diesel Vacuum Pump
I'm not certain it is a Pierburg- I didn't think imitations existed until I received it and looked at it. I'm not so certain, that's why I'm asking you guys if you think it's a Pierburg, and is sufficient quality to use, and if any of you have heard of low quality imitations. If it is a genuine Pierburg, or of equivalent quality then I saved almost $300. It "appears" to be identical, and of good quality but it has no brand logos. It does have the same (looking) bearing, and screws in the cover in the same places as the upgraded Pierburg pump, which is what made me believe it was the proper pump before I purchased it. I won't install this new pump unless I can verify that it is good quality. I realize that I took a gamble by purchasing it without really knowing what it was, but I can likely re-list it on ebay and get my money back if I decide not to install it. I admit that I am too cheap to dump over $300 on a vacuum pump unless I am truly risking my engine otherwise. I would first like to rule out the possibility of using this new one, rebuilding the original myself with a proper bearing, or making a block-off plate and switching to an electric pump. You have to realize that this car is primarily an investment/hobby for me. I commute to work daily by bicycle, and I typically drive my Volvo wagon during the infrequent times I need to drive somewhere. The 190D sits under a car cover in a garage, and is only driven for fun on weekends and on long freeway trips. I am willing to put a lot of time into it (for fun) but not a lot of money. That doesn't mean I don't take maintaining it seriously, or risk destroying the car to save a few bucks. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 26, 2008, at 10:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You bought it right? Whereas you are "certain it must be a > Peirburg", I guess you've answered your own question. > > Why would I put it on my car? It's yours for better or worse. > > Why would one take this risk for a few bucks when all you have to do > is call Rusty for the correct item? > > Pete > > -- Original message -- > From: Tyler Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> I got a brand new Vacuum pump for my 190D on ebay from the UK for >> only >> 30 pounds ($55 USD): >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=2302 >> 85188397 >> >> I did it because I was certain it must be a Pierburg, because nobody >> makes imitations as far as I know. I was wrong- it does appear to be >> an imitation (or a rebuilt pierburg with the logos ground off), but >> it >> seems to be high quality, and it has the upgraded bearing design >> which >> will keep the balls from coming free inside the timing chain cover. >> >> Does anyone have a idea what this thing really is? Would you put it >> on >> your car? My old pump works fine, but at 220k miles, I am afraid it >> is >> going to fail catastrophically and damage the engine, and this was >> too >> good a deal to pass up. >> >> Sincerely, >> Tyler William H Backman >> 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] V8 CIS
My 1987 420SEL has developed a miss on one cylinder. Did some debugging and found the CIS appears to be problem. Swapped with a spare unit I had and about 1 week latter a miss appeared on the same cylinder. I can plumb that output of the CIS to a different cylinder and miss moves with it. Does anyone know what would cause the CIS to fail on the same cylinder or is just my luck? I guess the big question becomes do I replace CIS, try to build a electronic fuel injection system, or rebuild a OM617 for the car. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap OM601/2/3 Diesel Vacuum Pump
You bought it right? Whereas you are "certain it must be a Peirburg", I guess you've answered your own question. Why would I put it on my car? It's yours for better or worse. Why would one take this risk for a few bucks when all you have to do is call Rusty for the correct item? Pete -- Original message -- From: Tyler Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I got a brand new Vacuum pump for my 190D on ebay from the UK for only > 30 pounds ($55 USD): > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=2302 > 85188397 > > I did it because I was certain it must be a Pierburg, because nobody > makes imitations as far as I know. I was wrong- it does appear to be > an imitation (or a rebuilt pierburg with the logos ground off), but it > seems to be high quality, and it has the upgraded bearing design which > will keep the balls from coming free inside the timing chain cover. > > Does anyone have a idea what this thing really is? Would you put it on > your car? My old pump works fine, but at 220k miles, I am afraid it is > going to fail catastrophically and damage the engine, and this was too > good a deal to pass up. > > Sincerely, > Tyler William H Backman > 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap OM601/2/3 Diesel Vacuum Pump
I got a brand new Vacuum pump for my 190D on ebay from the UK for only 30 pounds ($55 USD): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=230285188397 I did it because I was certain it must be a Pierburg, because nobody makes imitations as far as I know. I was wrong- it does appear to be an imitation (or a rebuilt pierburg with the logos ground off), but it seems to be high quality, and it has the upgraded bearing design which will keep the balls from coming free inside the timing chain cover. Does anyone have a idea what this thing really is? Would you put it on your car? My old pump works fine, but at 220k miles, I am afraid it is going to fail catastrophically and damage the engine, and this was too good a deal to pass up. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D AC
Have you checked all of the pins on your climate control with a multimeter per the instructions on http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html? Some of the instructions are wrong for later model 190Ds, but for anything pre-87 I think they should be correct. Since your heater vale closes unless the dial is all the way to "min" I would suspect one of the temperature sensors telling the control unit it is colder than it actually is. Putting it all the way on "min" overrides the temp sensor input, and shuts the heater off no matter what. Have you checked the vacuum at the heater valve? My 190D was running the heater valve open while running the AC because of a vacuum leak which prevented it from closing all the way (full vacuum to the valve shuts it off). I tested all of the electronics with a multimeter, and they were all functioning correctly. Since I live near LA where I basically never need heat, I ran a permanent vacuum line from the pump to the heater valve, and now the AC works perfectly. If for some reason it did get cold (which it won't- ever) I could just put it back the way it was in 10 seconds. I'll probably fix it *properly* before I drive up to visit family in the colder(er) pacific northwest. Why are you using R134a instead of R12? The stock AC systems on 190Ds are weak enough as it is with R12, I doubt they would ever work well with R134a, especially in hot/humid climates. My AC system works really hard to keep the car cool with R12 I had to wire the dual electric fans to run constantly on the condenser, and I shut off the AC system when I am stopped in traffic because it stops blowing cold, and the motor starts warming up. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Sep 25, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Well, the AC saga continues. I had to have the manifold hoses > rebuilt, > installed them yesterday. Pulled a vacuum for 2 hours, then let it it > sit all night and day till this evening, still holding vacuum at same > level. Put a little 134 in it, sniffer did not see any leaks. Fully > charged and it worked of course. Will see how long it holds. > Before it > leaked out overnight. That was when I found the leak in the front > compressor seal. Or so I though. Replaced the compressor, same leak. > Thats when I found the pinhole in the hose, right by the compressor. > The other compressor probably was not leaking at all. > > I also noticed that after a while of running, the heater valve opens > back up unless you have the dial all the way to min. Anybody know > anything about these 201 climate controls? Wonder if its a sensor > somewhere or the control unit. I also dont seem to get much air out > of > the side vents but do out the center just fine. > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, > 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb > http://www.okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 index
It seems than at Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:59:13 -0700, Jim wrote: > I wrote a script that automatically made hard-links between > where the files really were and butchered up names that the > Flash junk can also find. Kind of funny to see a directory > full of 'files' that have backslashes in their names but > it works. I don't know if it will port easily to W201, but for my W123 I use a, err, _thing_, called "W123v1.1.zip" It is an HTML structure that replaces the Flash menu and points to the PDFs. I host it on my lan web server. It sure beats the mess on the CD! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trapped key
Hi SWMBA! The cable to the IP for start/kill is ok, but the connection is wobbly at the Ip so it goes off to the side at times and does not fully engage kill. The Knob will pull fully out with key turned or not. Might be the cable to the key has gone fully bad and I will be spending the rest of the day chasing that. It would be great if a switch could be mounted under dash to just allow power, but then the interlock would need to be disengaged. Used to be able to turn power off, but keep engine going, and walk away with the key. Now I can not get it to even turn to position 0 or 1. Does that "feature" have any relation to the engine shut off? clay On Sep 25, 2008, at 11:07 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> OH! That would be really close to the issue. The off does not work >> really well on Gump anymore. I have to push all the way in and hope >> she shuts off. When she does not, I pop the clutch and just kill it. >> Maybe that is not working well anymore and I have to screw around >> more. > > That problem is usually that the clamp on the IP where the big > Bowden cable ties to the bracket has slipped. It can be > readjusted there. Probably nothing to do with your problem, > unless the cable's not actually letting the knob push in all > the way. > >> Used to be able to remove the key while running though. > > You're not supposed to be able to. Just like the interlock works > the other way to prevent the knob from being pulled until the key > is turned on. Naturally, the Frankenheap's knob and key system > interlock is working perfectly. :-) There's a second little Bowden > cable coming off the side of the pull knob switch that goes over > to the key switch. Sounds like Gump's loosening up a bit! > > Oh, SWMBA just came in, says hi. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parts from China
http://www.alibaba.com/ This place is simply amazing. -Rolf LarryT wrote: > Howdy - > I'm not advocatiing parts from CHina but since I'm in the auto business I > get emails from all over. Today I rec'd an email from a large parts > manufacturer in China ($5000 min purchase) and out of curiosity I looked to > see the price of parts made for my W124. I had seen Clear or Amber Front > Turn Signal Lights (Corner lights) for my 91 300D on eBay selling for > $20-60/pair. This Chinese co,is offering the W124 corner lights for $3.50 to > $4.50 each!! I never realized how cheaply they can make them for! > > Take Care, > Larry T > http://youroil.net > http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing > http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Parts from China
Howdy - I'm not advocatiing parts from CHina but since I'm in the auto business I get emails from all over. Today I rec'd an email from a large parts manufacturer in China ($5000 min purchase) and out of curiosity I looked to see the price of parts made for my W124. I had seen Clear or Amber Front Turn Signal Lights (Corner lights) for my 91 300D on eBay selling for $20-60/pair. This Chinese co,is offering the W124 corner lights for $3.50 to $4.50 each!! I never realized how cheaply they can make them for! Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Trolling
I just thought I'd mention that out of curiosity I checked to see how long this 1998 233 MHz Mac G3 (OSX 10.2.8) has been running since the last reboot. According to "uptime", it's 97 days, and I know the last reboot was caused by the UPS not doing its job correctly. (I also will shut it down if we're going to be gone for more than a couple of days.) Crashes are _extremely_ rare, once I got rid of the bad memory stick. It's what I use to do my e-mail, maintain my web site, read the FSM on, and access the EPC via Virtual PC. I also use Illustrator on it to make schematics, because even though it's our slowest smallest OSX Mac, it's got the biggest screen. (21" Sony E500.) It could use a bit more memory as it's only got 384 MB and occasionally gets a bit swappy, but other than that it's been pretty darned satisfactory. (Limit yourself to only one large application [Firefox+Acrobat, Illustrator, VPC] at a time and it doesn't thrash at all.) Especially since it was free. Six years ago. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
Curt Raymond wrote: > As satire it works pretty well, as an economic idea its stupid. If you can prove it is better than the political solution that's in the works, and if it's inherently absurd, then the political solution must also be absurd. In this case the math failed, and with it the proof that it's better than the government's solution. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]
What? Other than the math being wrong the idea is crazy dumb. Where does all the money come from? Tax payers... What does distributing all that money do? Cause crazy high inflation instantly. As satire it works pretty well, as an economic idea its stupid. -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:44:27 -0500 From: Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read] To: Banned List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed ya know, Kaleb actually forwarded something that's rational and effective! I'm impressed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
In Chicago? I dunno I'm not familiar enough with that city. In Boston it'd have a family of 5 living in it by morning... -Curt --- On Thu, 9/25/08, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 9:25 PM Why would you bother to lock the doors on a car like that? Who's going to bother it? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wondered how long it would take to someone to ask. > I didna buy it. Its a $1500 car but not a $1501 car... Don hadn't mentioned that at the time none of the doors locked... Its tough to think about driving 1400 miles in a car (and spending the night with a friend in Chicago) with a car that you can't lock. > > We had a nice dinner with Don and his family, stayed in a nice hotel, saw all the sights of Jefferson and flew home... > > -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
S'not, and I understand Don has fixed the locking issue on every door but the trunk since I was there... Drives about the same as my 190D 2.2l powerwise. It started right up, didn't seem to smoke any, wasn't any louder than I'd expected. I think it needs rear shocks (cheap) and a better radio but other than that its pretty well ready to go. As I say its a $1500 car, I just hadn't adequately thought through the idea of driving a $1500 car halfway across the country. I should have shipped it... -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:27:12 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed so other than that how big a POS is it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
