date:20090119

Randy wrote: "So, inquiring minds want to know . . . did they label you a 
"dork" after you gave up on MB and bought the Cadillac?"


Neither the 1990 Mercedes (300D or 300SEL) nor the Cadillac did/does 
anything to dispel the dorkiness.

Donald H. Snook
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We don't consider each other dorks for driving old Mercedes, but quite a few 
traditional people do; or at least that's been my experience.

Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Repair Proccedures Needed (PDF Format)

2009-01-19 Thread Jim Cathey


Anyway, I see I've got to replace that chrome handle and some other
associated HW.  (As to what, I don't know yet.)


You could try gluing the pin back in place, if the handle
is otherwise still good.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] tranny jack sure makes install easy


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

This one

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3185



You want the job to go real easy, get a two post hoist and one of these:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=33615

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

Gerry, I hadn't realized how far the GMAT scores had been inflated since I took 
the test. Before 1995, a 95%ile GMAT score was in the mid 600's. Now it appears 
to be about 710.


Fifteen years ago, 710 was a 99%ile score, and in the fall of '93 I got a 790, 
or 99.9 %ile. At that time, the top tier accounting PhD programs would not 
accept anything below about 700. I should call Illinois and Texas and ask them 
what scores they accept now. I bet they'd need to be in the 740-760 range to 
maintain the standards they had in the early 1990's.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

Randy wrote: "So, inquiring minds want to know . . . did they label you a 
"dork" after you gave up on MB and bought the Cadillac?"

Neither the 1990 Mercedes (300D or 300SEL) nor the Cadillac did/does anything 
to dispel the dorkiness.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] tranny jack sure makes install easy

2009-01-19 Thread Tony Wirtel

>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] tranny jack sure makes install easy
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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> This one
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>


Got the same one about a year back.  Wouldn't want to see how well it held
up day in and day out but should be good for a few transmissions.  I think
"regular" price is $199 but often seen at 99 or 119.

Also useful for lifting the front of a small lawn tractor...

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Repair Proccedures Needed (PDF Format)

2009-01-19 Thread LWB250

No PDF needed.

1.) Pry black plastic trim out of the handle recess (there is a small slot on 
the hinge side of the plastic.)

2.) Remove phillips head screw from inside of bracket.

3.) Slide bracket down onto door pull.  You'll expose a large phillips head 
screw at the top of the door pull.

4.) Remove screw from door pull and two other screws in the bottom of the arm 
rest.  Remove arm rest from door.

5.) Remove chrome door strike trim from trailing edge of door.

6.) Remove two very small phillips head screws in side of window frame trim on 
trailing edge of door.  Remove trim.

7.) With a putty knife or similar tool, pry bottom edge of inner door panel out 
to release door panel.  Work al the way around the door until the pins are 
released.

8.) With door panel loose, carefully lift up and towards the front to unhook 
panel from front edge of door and window channel.

9.) After carefully removing the moisture shield (replace if damaged or torn!) 
you can see the release lever.  Remove clip holding the lock rod and the two 
large phillips head screws.

I'm doing this from memory, so if anyone wants to offer corrections, feel free 
to do so.

Dan

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, ANGELO GIAIMO  wrote:

> From: ANGELO GIAIMO 
> Subject: [MBZ] W126 Repair Proccedures Needed (PDF Format)
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: michaelangel...@gmail.com
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:06 PM
> 
> -Inline Attachment Follows-
> 
> 
> Today,  I pulled on the interior handle to get out of
> my car (Front Drivers
> Side) and it appears that the handle is no longer attached
> to the pivot (?)
> via some sort of  press-fit pin.  (It's there,
> but I see the hole in the
> handle has expanded and the pin almost fell out.),  I
> can get the door to
> un-latch from the inside,  but it's tricky.
> 
> Anyway, I see I've got to replace that chrome handle and
> some other
> associated HW.  (As to what, I don't know yet.)
> 
> Anyone have the proccedure to remove/replace (and I'm
> guessing at this) the
> door panel, handle, etc, etc. in PDF format?    I
> KNOW the manuals used to
> be somewhere on the web, but I can't find them.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
> Internet: gia...@us.ibm.com
> (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
> 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
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[MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL

2009-01-19 Thread Michael LaFleur

Hello,

I'm new to this list. It was suggested I list here for some parts that I need.

I acquired a '86 300SDL a few years ago in an inoperable condition. The number 
6 connecting rod end-cap came off and busted a couple of holes in the block.
Since then, I acquired parts to restore the car and now I'm ready to put 
everything back together.

I've found that the previous builder of the engine in this car used end caps 
from different connecting rods when putting it together.

Anyway, the parts I have don't match and I am in need of 6 connecting rods for 
my OM603.961.

Mike LaFleur (Detroit)
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread LWB250

According to an independent tire guy I know (he does mostly commercial stuff 
and does not consider consumer suppliers like Dead Sam's a competitor) the 
Michelins that go to Dead Sam's are *not* the same as the ones you buy from 
independents - they're engineered to Dead Sam's specs.

Dan

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> From: Curt Raymond 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> To: "Diesel List" 
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 4:53 PM
> I read somewhere that Wal-Mart had
> tires that were made just for them, same brand/model as
> other tires but "made to a price" that Wal-Mart set. IIRC it
> would be Brand X, Model Y-a where at a tire shop you'd get
> Brand X, Model Y...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:05:32 -0600
> From: Donald Snook 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> Message-ID:
>     
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Ernest
> wrote:  "first off, there are many models of "Potenzas";
> the name has
> been so overused by the Marketing wonks that there's no way
> to know
> what tire you're talking about unless you reference the
> entire name. in
> personal experience, i once went through 8 OEM Goodyear
> Wranglers in
> ~40,000 miles on my J**p. shopping around later, i found
> that the name
> "Wrangler" is actually used on several different models,
> and as bad as
> the OEM Wranglers were the Wrangler MT/Rs have proven to be
> one of the
> best tires i've ever used. OEM-spec tires are quite
> frequently crap; at
> least the case used to be that they were sometimes supplied
> to the auto
> mfr for little-to-nothing, with the idea that at
> replacement time most
> customers would just walk in and say "gimme' some more of
> what was on
> it.". sadly, i've read that what was supplied as OEM
> sometimes truly
> was not the same tire as what was available aftermarket,
> even though
> they had exactly the same name. tire shopping can be weird;
> aside from
> everything else, be advised that some tire outlets actually
> have models
> made for them that aren't available elsewhere, so if you
> have a problem
> and need to replace one, replacement can be impossible
> anywhere else."
> 
> The
> OEM tires and the replacement tires were the same name.  I
> suspect you
> are correct that the OEM tires (even though they have the
> same name)
> are not made the same as the replacements.
> 
> By the way, I got the tires at Sam's.  They do seem to
> have the best price/value on name brand tires.
> 
> 
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe


From: Donald Snook
Gerry wrote: "ROFLMAO!!!  My son was a football player in high school and 
college (Sewanee), and he could join Mensa if he wanted to; but his attitude 
is more like the players who objected to The Raven.  Have one grandson who 
would have done your chicken demonstration if he had known about it.  Too 
bad about your being a "back-slidin' Mensan".  How could we persuade you to 
"re-enlist"?"


(Donald:) I have to deal with several attorneys here at the firm who are 
mensa members (at least they claim to be) and I am lost most of the time 
they are speaking. I have never attended a meeting and the only reason I 
joined was because the principal at the gifted school I attended submitted 
the applications of all the students who met the threshold (which I think 
was, or is, top 1% on the IQ tests).  I have not done anything to "renew" my 
membership, so I suspect I am a backslidin' member as you called it.  My 
friends already think I am a dork, so that would unfortunately solidify 
their opinion if I were to start talking about Mensa meetings.  Maybe I 
could re-join and not bring it up.


(Gerry:)  That might be wise.  I've met a number of lawyers during my 25 
years as a member.  Many of them are specialists such as corporate patent 
attorneys, but many are in general practice as well.  A lot of networking 
goes on among members of the same professions.


(Donald:) Plus, the mensa members would probably look down on a member who 
was a lawyer instead of a physicist or a professor of an obscure speciality. 
Just kidding!

Donald H. Snook

G:  One thing I've noticed about Mensans is that they almost never "look 
down" on another member (or anyone else), and it's very common that they 
don't even know what kind of degrees you have or what you do for a living. 
When I was working in Atlanta, several members were under the impression 
that I was an MD rather than a humble lab tech.  When they found out 
otherwise, their attitude didn't change a bit.  Members who are sociable and 
egalitarian seem to be the most popular, and when they go to meetings or 
Mensa social events, they leave their degrees and jobs behind; they're just 
members there; ready for a good time.


Note:  That's the top "2%" on the tests.  When Mensa was first established 
in Britain after WW-2  the top 1%  was the requirement, but membership 
lagged because there just weren't enough people qualified to join.  Soon 
they lowered it to 2% which it has been since then.  Mensa isn't exactly an 
exclusive club since about 6 million Americans are eligible to join.


Anyway, welcome aboard if you decide to rejoin.  One of the current 
advantages of belonging to Mensa (especially for old crippled up dorks like 
me) are the dozens of official and unofficial Mensa internet lists; some of 
which are hilarious and some of which are very interesting otherwise.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe


From: Mitch Haley
I looked into Mensa membership once. IIRC, they wanted something like a 650 
GMAT
(out of 800) to join. I've applied to grad schools that wouldn't even 
consider

your application with that score.
Mitch.
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college.) The scores are adjusted to reflect this.


http://www.us.mensa.org/Content/AML/NavigationMenu/Join/SubmitTestScores
/TestScoresFAQ/TestScoresFAQ.htm#Why_do_you_take_the_top_5_percent_on_the_GMAT_

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Re: [MBZ] 2006 E320CDI with 34Kmi for $25K!

2009-01-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


The market is soft on everything right now.

Kevin Kraly wrote:

The market must be getting soft for these too.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/999217641.html

It's too new for me, but seems to be a screamin' deal!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula

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Re: [MBZ] tranny jack sure makes install easy

2009-01-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


This one

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=3185&CategoryName=&SubCategoryName=

R A Bennell wrote:

What sort of tranny jack did you get? I initially had one of the things that 
slips into the floor jack but couldn't
use it as I did not have sufficient room under the vehicle. Then I swapped it 
for one of the scissor style tranny
jacks. I have used it a couple of times but still had to have some help to 
balance the tranny and get it slipped
into place since it was on a 4X4 and the transfer case was still attached. Made 
it lean a bit to one side.

Randy


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 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 7

2009-01-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I thought this new windows was not supposed to hog up as much resources
as Vista?

Douglas wrote:
I just thought that I would let you all know that I d/l'd the new Windows 7. Have been using it for a few days, and though it looks real nice I have to say that it does take a WHOLE LOT of memory. With the browser open and a mail program the used memory is above 1.2 Gigs of ram. I installed the windows 7 mail program which I think is called Windows Live. It has very nice large font that makes the mail easy to read though there is no way to select all the old mail and delete. So far I have to delete each one by pressing the delete key.

I am sending this using Vista and its memory use is just above 1.0 Gigs. So not
alot different.

Douglas
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Re: [MBZ] 2006 E320CDI with 34Kmi for $25K!

Looks like they trade3d it in on a Toyota - what's up with that?

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> Kevin Kraly wrote:
>>
>> The market must be getting soft for these too.
>>
>> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/999217641.html
>>
>> It's too new for me, but seems to be a screamin' deal!
>
> A three year old, $45,000 car with 33,000 miles, at a time when diesel
> doesn't look quite as attractive as it did last summer?
> $25k sounds about right to me, but I'd try offering $20k.
>

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[MBZ] W126 Repair Proccedures Needed (PDF Format)

2009-01-19 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO


Today,  I pulled on the interior handle to get out of my car (Front Drivers
Side) and it appears that the handle is no longer attached to the pivot (?)
via some sort of  press-fit pin.  (It's there, but I see the hole in the
handle has expanded and the pin almost fell out.),  I can get the door to
un-latch from the inside,  but it's tricky.

Anyway, I see I've got to replace that chrome handle and some other
associated HW.  (As to what, I don't know yet.)

Anyone have the proccedure to remove/replace (and I'm guessing at this) the
door panel, handle, etc, etc. in PDF format?I KNOW the manuals used to
be somewhere on the web, but I can't find them.

Thanks.

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
Internet: gia...@us.ibm.com
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

2009-01-19 Thread R A Bennell



So, inquiring minds want to know . . . did they label you a "dork" after you 
gave up on MB and bought the Cadillac?

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Donald Snook
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe


Gerry wrote: "ROFLMAO!!!  My son was a football player in high school and 
college (Sewanee), and he could join
Mensa if he wanted to; but his attitude is more like the players who objected 
to The Raven.  Have one grandson who
would have done your chicken demonstration if he had known about it.  Too bad 
about your being a "back-slidin'
Mensan".  How could we persuade you to "re-enlist"?"

I have to deal with several attorneys here at the firm who are mensa members 
(at least they claim to be) and I am
lost most of the time they are speaking. I have never attended a meeting and 
the only reason I joined was because
the principal at the gifted school I attended submitted the applications of all 
the students who met the threshold
(which I think was, or is, top 1% on the IQ tests).  I have not done anything 
to "renew" my membership, so I
suspect I am a backslidin' member as you called it.  My friends already think I 
am a dork, so that would
unfortunately solidify their opinion if I were to start talking about Mensa 
meetings.  Maybe I could re-join and
not bring it up.

Plus, the mensa members would probably look down on a member who was a lawyer 
instead of a physicist or a professor
of an obscure speciality.  Just kidding!


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

2009-01-19 Thread R A Bennell

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

Gerry wrote: "ROFLMAO!!!  My son was a football player in high school and 
college (Sewanee), and he could join
Mensa if he wanted to; but his attitude is more like the players who objected 
to The Raven.  Have one grandson who
would have done your chicken demonstration if he had known about it.  Too bad 
about your being a "back-slidin'
Mensan".  How could we persuade you to "re-enlist"?"

I have to deal with several attorneys here at the firm who are mensa members 
(at least they claim to be) and I am
lost most of the time they are speaking. I have never attended a meeting and 
the only reason I joined was because
the principal at the gifted school I attended submitted the applications of all 
the students who met the threshold
(which I think was, or is, top 1% on the IQ tests).  I have not done anything 
to "renew" my membership, so I
suspect I am a backslidin' member as you called it.  My friends already think I 
am a dork, so that would
unfortunately solidify their opinion if I were to start talking about Mensa 
meetings.  Maybe I could re-join and
not bring it up.

Plus, the mensa members would probably look down on a member who was a lawyer 
instead of a physicist or a professor
of an obscure speciality.  Just kidding!

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 2006 E320CDI with 34Kmi for $25K!


Kevin Kraly wrote:

The market must be getting soft for these too.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/999217641.html

It's too new for me, but seems to be a screamin' deal!


A three year old, $45,000 car with 33,000 miles, at a time when diesel doesn't 
look quite as attractive as it did last summer?

$25k sounds about right to me, but I'd try offering $20k.

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Re: [MBZ] Tires


OK Don wrote:

We need new tires for the van -just saw these on TireRack under "best
sellers" -
It's a little early for April Fools day - can they be serious

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+DX+Aroma&vehicleSearch=true&partnum=165VR5KU33AL&fromCompare1=yes&place=1&speed_rating=S&speed_rating=T&speed_rating=U&speed_rating=H&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&speed_rating=(Y)&minSpeedRating=S


So the stinky tires are marked down to $50 already?
I wonder what that does to tire sniffing dogs?

Or how about drug dogs?
Can you smuggle drugs in a lavender scented spare without the drug dogs alerting 
on it?


Mitch.

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[MBZ] 2006 E320CDI with 34Kmi for $25K!

2009-01-19 Thread Kevin Kraly


The market must be getting soft for these too.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/999217641.html

It's too new for me, but seems to be a screamin' deal!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe


dave walton wrote:

That's a club I have no desire to join - not that they would have me.


I looked into Mensa membership once. IIRC, they wanted something like a 650 GMAT 
(out of 800) to join. I've applied to grad schools that wouldn't even consider 
your application with that score.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread Loren Faeth

Yes, and the "warranty" is only good a wallyland.  the spinoff Sams 
club is the same.  Sams won't warrant wallyland tires and vice versa


The goodyear dealer, for example won't warrant a tire you bought from 
sam or wally



At 03:53 PM 1/19/2009, you wrote:
I read somewhere that Wal-Mart had tires that were made just for 
them, same brand/model as other tires but "made to a price" that 
Wal-Mart set. IIRC it would be Brand X, Model Y-a where at a tire 
shop you'd get Brand X, Model Y...


-Curt

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:05:32 -0600
From: Donald Snook 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
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Ernest
wrote:  "first off, there are many models of "Potenzas"; the name has
been so overused by the Marketing wonks that there's no way to know
what tire you're talking about unless you reference the entire name. in
personal experience, i once went through 8 OEM Goodyear Wranglers in
~40,000 miles on my J**p. shopping around later, i found that the name
"Wrangler" is actually used on several different models, and as bad as
the OEM Wranglers were the Wrangler MT/Rs have proven to be one of the
best tires i've ever used. OEM-spec tires are quite frequently crap; at
least the case used to be that they were sometimes supplied to the auto
mfr for little-to-nothing, with the idea that at replacement time most
customers would just walk in and say "gimme' some more of what was on
it.". sadly, i've read that what was supplied as OEM sometimes truly
was not the same tire as what was available aftermarket, even though
they had exactly the same name. tire shopping can be weird; aside from
everything else, be advised that some tire outlets actually have models
made for them that aren't available elsewhere, so if you have a problem
and need to replace one, replacement can be impossible anywhere else."

The
OEM tires and the replacement tires were the same name.  I suspect you
are correct that the OEM tires (even though they have the same name)
are not made the same as the replacements.

By the way, I got the tires at Sam's.  They do seem to have the best 
price/value on name brand tires.




Donald H. Snook



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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread Curt Raymond

Our local tire warehouse pushes Contis for "budget minded" buyers like me. The 
summer tires on my 190D and those I had on my Dakota were Contis. I've been 
reasonably happy for someone who doesn't put hardly any thought into tires. I 
think I got 50-60k on the last set at something like $60/tire and being too 
lazy to ever get them rotated...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:44:29 -0600
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And the "warranty" is worthless unless you go back to Cheap Sam.

One of the tires I bought from a walmart a couple of years ago 
because i got caught in a lake effect blizzard and was desperate, 
slipped a belt. last summer.  The tire manager at walmart refused to 
warrant the tire.  He had some cockamamie excuse that it was my fault 
the tire was a POS. I can't recommend buying tires from wallyland or 
Cheap Sams.  I got caught in the warranty trap at sams for 
years.  The tires would always fail, so I was stuck going back to 
Cheapo Sam.  When I bought my tires from Eurotire, when they were in 
business, I never had a failure.  I mostly bought Contis, but had 
some Fulda and one set of Frenchy tires.  When I had to go back to US 
made tires, at least one out of two will fail before they are worn 
out.  I've had the same experience with overpriced Michelins too.  I 
have never had a conti fail.  Buying tires is a crapshoot at best.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

Gerry wrote: "ROFLMAO!!! My son was a football player in high school and
college (Sewanee), and he could join Mensa if he wanted to; but his attitude is
more like the players who objected to The Raven. Have one grandson who would
have done your chicken demonstration if he had known about it. Too bad about
your being a "back-slidin' Mensan". How could we persuade you to "re-enlist"?"

I have to deal with several attorneys here at the firm who are mensa members
(at least they claim to be) and I am lost most of the time they are speaking. I
have never attended a meeting and the only reason I joined was because the
principal at the gifted school I attended submitted the applications of all the
students who met the threshold (which I think was, or is, top 1% on the IQ
tests). I have not done anything to "renew" my membership, so I suspect I am a
backslidin' member as you called it. My friends already think I am a dork, so
that would unfortunately solidify their opinion if I were to start talking
about Mensa meetings. Maybe I could re-join and not bring it up.

Plus, the mensa members would probably look down on a member who was a lawyer
instead of a physicist or a professor of an obscure speciality. Just kidding!

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread Curt Raymond

I read somewhere that Wal-Mart had tires that were made just for them, same 
brand/model as other tires but "made to a price" that Wal-Mart set. IIRC it 
would be Brand X, Model Y-a where at a tire shop you'd get Brand X, Model Y...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:05:32 -0600
From: Donald Snook 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
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Ernest
wrote:  "first off, there are many models of "Potenzas"; the name has
been so overused by the Marketing wonks that there's no way to know
what tire you're talking about unless you reference the entire name. in
personal experience, i once went through 8 OEM Goodyear Wranglers in
~40,000 miles on my J**p. shopping around later, i found that the name
"Wrangler" is actually used on several different models, and as bad as
the OEM Wranglers were the Wrangler MT/Rs have proven to be one of the
best tires i've ever used. OEM-spec tires are quite frequently crap; at
least the case used to be that they were sometimes supplied to the auto
mfr for little-to-nothing, with the idea that at replacement time most
customers would just walk in and say "gimme' some more of what was on
it.". sadly, i've read that what was supplied as OEM sometimes truly
was not the same tire as what was available aftermarket, even though
they had exactly the same name. tire shopping can be weird; aside from
everything else, be advised that some tire outlets actually have models
made for them that aren't available elsewhere, so if you have a problem
and need to replace one, replacement can be impossible anywhere else."

The
OEM tires and the replacement tires were the same name.  I suspect you
are correct that the OEM tires (even though they have the same name)
are not made the same as the replacements.

By the way, I got the tires at Sam's.  They do seem to have the best 
price/value on name brand tires.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

Archer wrote: "Be careful where you recite The Raven, Donald.  Especially if 
there are football players around."
Well, I was a football player in school (and a member of Mensa). But, I do 
agree Edgar Allan Poe does not mix that well with most Football players.


I had to do a similar presentation in Speech and Debate Class in high 
school.  I did Martin Luther King's I have a Dream Speech (sort of ironic 
considering that today is the celebration). I had forgotten about that until 
your story reminded me.  Most of those high school speeches were boring to 
everyone except the teacher. I did do a "demonstration" speech that was very 
popular with the students, but less well-received by the teacher.   My 
demonstration speech was how to cut-up and cook a chicken.  I bought a whole 
chicken and then cut it up into pieces.  I had a poster of a very scantily 
clad woman in a very small bikini that I used to compare the parts of the 
chicken to the parts of the woman on the poster.  It went something like 
this, "Using the knife to carve the meat off the breastbone, you can remove 
the whole breast."  Here is the chicken breast and here is the corresponding 
part on our human model."  I didn't get very far into the speech when the 
teacher told me that was enough.  She gave me a B on the speech, but scolded 
me for the poster.  I told her she had required a visual aid and I thought 
the poster would capture the attention of the students.


Donald H. Snook
-
ROFLMAO!!!  My son was a football player in high school and college 
(Sewanee), and he could join Mensa if he wanted to; but his attitude is more 
like the players who objected to The Raven.  Have one grandson who would 
have done your chicken demonstration if he had known about it.  Too bad 
about your being a "back-slidin' Mensan".  How could we persuade you to 
"re-enlist"?  (grin)

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Re: [MBZ] Tires

We need new tires for the van -just saw these on TireRack under "best
sellers" -
It's a little early for April Fools day - can they be serious

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+DX+Aroma&vehicleSearch=true&partnum=165VR5KU33AL&fromCompare1=yes&place=1&speed_rating=S&speed_rating=T&speed_rating=U&speed_rating=H&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&speed_rating=(Y)&minSpeedRating=S

or http://tinyurl.com/8xycs7

"The Ecsta DX Aroma is Kumho's Grand Touring Summer tire designed for
trend-setting, fashion-conscious drivers who enjoy products that will
set their luxury coupes and sedans apart from everyone else's. In
addition to delivering an alluring aroma that replaces a tire's normal
rubber smell with the subtle scent of fresh lavender, the Ecsta DX
Aroma is designed to deliver a comfortable ride and low noise, while
blending dry and wet traction with good wear."

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:21 PM, MG  wrote:
> You too huh? That was one of my thoughts too, but I didn't want to seem to
> be that paranoid. Even though I am German and have appearances to keep up.
>
> Manfred
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:53:22 -0500
> From: dave walton 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires
>
>
> It's just as likely that she parked in the wrong garage or used valet
> parking and had her rims and tires swapped with a beater one of the
> attendants was driving.
>
> -Dave Walton
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread MG

You too huh? That was one of my thoughts too, but I didn't want to seem 
to be that paranoid. Even though I am German and have appearances to 
keep up.


Manfred



Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:53:22 -0500
From: dave walton 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires


It's just as likely that she parked in the wrong garage or used valet
parking and had her rims and tires swapped with a beater one of the
attendants was driving.

-Dave Walton

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: transmission repair "factory PDF"

2009-01-19 Thread Christopher McCann

Excellent. Look forward to it. 

I received a really good 722.3.4 rebuild manual today. 100 pages, all in 
plastic page protectors and very easy to use, conversational language. Tons of 
pictures, lots of helpful notes and suggestions. Apparently this trans is far 
easier to rebuild than the 722.1.2, at least that's what this manual says.

Chris

'85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 
300Dt/'85 300Dt Cali (parting out)/'87 190E 2.3 (parting out)


--- On Mon, 1/19/09, harry watkins  wrote:

> From: harry watkins 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: transmission repair "factory PDF"
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 2:32 PM
> I sent the video priority mail, to Dave on Friday the 16th. 
> He should get it real soon.
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
> > Sounds good. I'll check out the YouTube thing.
> I'll put a high-res
> > copy on one of the servers at work as well and let you
> know how to get
> > at it.
> > 
> > -Dave Walton
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Christopher McCann
> >  wrote:
> >> That would be great. I would have had to have paid
> someone put it on DVD as I can't watch VHS, so it works
> out really well for me.
> >> 
> >> DAVE, make sure to tell us all when it is
> available to watch.
> >> 
> >> I don't think the video is available for
> purchase anymore...maybe we could put it on youtube?
> Technically it's still the property of the creator, but
> since it is no longer available, I don't have scruples
> about making it available to people who need the info. Not
> like we'd be making money off it.
> >> 
> >> Chris
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread MG

It may depend on the auto manufacturer. Our 03 Tacoma came with 
Bridgestones on it and they lasted over 85,000 miles before they hit the 
wear bar. Can't ask for more then that. Are you sure she isn't doing 
some of that autocross or drifting on the side? =8-0 If so let me know 
where, I want to avoid the area. :-)


Manfred



Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:42:20 -0600
From: Donald Snook 
Subject: [MBZ] Tires

My mother in law was in town this weekend (everyone made it out alive!)
 and I noticed that her tires her completely bald.  So, I started doing
 some research and spent time trying to find her the best deals on
 tires. It gave me something to do and was a relief.  But, I am curious
 about something.  She has a 2008 Suzuki SX4. It's a cute little car 
and she

 really likes it. The car serves her needs because she wanted a new,
 but cheap car, that got good mileage.  It is small and she likes it. I
 would hate driving it.  But, it had Bridgestone Potenza tires on as the
 OEM tire.  Do the tire manufacturers make a different tire for OEM, than
 they sell in the tire shops.  The car only had 26,000 miles and the
 tires were completely worn.  I priced a bunch of tires and found a
 replacement Bridgestone Potenza that was very highly rated.  The 
replacement

 tire had a high wear rating (460) and was A rated for temp and
 traction.  It appears to me that bridgestone must make more than one 
Potenza

 (with the same letter designation) and one is the cheap version which is
 used as OEM and then a replacement that is much better.  I always
 thought that if you bought the same model that they were the same.   But,
 the replacement tires (even with the same model designation) were
 different from the originals.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 7

I have Windows 7 on a tablet with 2GB ram, haven't installed any other
MS apps yet though. With I.E. and Open Office Writer open it's using
1.07 GB of RAM.
I have run itno some in-stability issues when setting the swap file
size (I always lock it 2 or 3 time the RAM), and have found that
Firefox runs fine, but Opera croaks after an hour or so of use. 7 does
seem to run faster than Vista on the same box, but I haven't tried to
benchmark them.

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Douglas  wrote:
> I just thought that I would let you all know that I d/l'd the new Windows 7. 
> Have been using it for a few days, and though it looks real nice I have to 
> say that it does take a WHOLE LOT of memory. With the browser open and a mail 
> program the used memory is above 1.2 Gigs of ram. I installed the windows 7 
> mail program which I think is called Windows Live. It has very nice large 
> font that makes the mail easy to read though there is no way to select all 
> the old mail and delete. So far I have to delete each one by pressing the 
> delete key.
>
> I am sending this using Vista and its memory use is just above 1.0 Gigs. So 
> not alot different.
>
> Douglas

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

I used to read The Raven my kids at bed-time, till my wife made me
stop it. They seemed to like it, never had nightmares from it (that I
know about). One of them is writing her dissertation for a PhD in
English though -

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> Archer wrote: "Be careful where you recite The Raven, Donald.  Especially if 
> there are football players around."
>

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: transmission repair "factory PDF"

2009-01-19 Thread harry watkins

I sent the video priority mail, to Dave on Friday the 16th.  He should get 
it real soon.


Harry



Sounds good. I'll check out the YouTube thing. I'll put a high-res
copy on one of the servers at work as well and let you know how to get
at it.

-Dave Walton

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Christopher McCann
 wrote:
That would be great. I would have had to have paid someone put it on DVD 
as I can't watch VHS, so it works out really well for me.


DAVE, make sure to tell us all when it is available to watch.

I don't think the video is available for purchase anymore...maybe we 
could put it on youtube? Technically it's still the property of the 
creator, but since it is no longer available, I don't have scruples about 
making it available to people who need the info. Not like we'd be making 
money off it.


Chris



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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread Loren Faeth


And the "warranty" is worthless unless you go back to Cheap Sam.

One of the tires I bought from a walmart a couple of years ago 
because i got caught in a lake effect blizzard and was desperate, 
slipped a belt. last summer.  The tire manager at walmart refused to 
warrant the tire.  He had some cockamamie excuse that it was my fault 
the tire was a POS. I can't recommend buying tires from wallyland or 
Cheap Sams.  I got caught in the warranty trap at sams for 
years.  The tires would always fail, so I was stuck going back to 
Cheapo Sam.  When I bought my tires from Eurotire, when they were in 
business, I never had a failure.  I mostly bought Contis, but had 
some Fulda and one set of Frenchy tires.  When I had to go back to US 
made tires, at least one out of two will fail before they are worn 
out.  I've had the same experience with overpriced Michelins too.  I 
have never had a conti fail.  Buying tires is a crapshoot at best.


At 01:05 PM 1/19/2009, you wrote:
Ernest wrote:  "first off, there are many models of "Potenzas"; the 
name has been so overused by the Marketing wonks that there's no way 
to know what tire you're talking about unless you reference the 
entire name. in personal experience, i once went through 8 OEM 
Goodyear Wranglers in ~40,000 miles on my J**p. shopping around 
later, i found that the name "Wrangler" is actually used on several 
different models, and as bad as the OEM Wranglers were the Wrangler 
MT/Rs have proven to be one of the best tires i've ever used. 
OEM-spec tires are quite frequently crap; at least the case used to 
be that they were sometimes supplied to the auto mfr for 
little-to-nothing, with the idea that at replacement time most 
customers would just walk in and say "gimme' some more of what was 
on it.". sadly, i've read that what was supplied as OEM sometimes 
truly was not the same tire as what was available aftermarket, even 
though they had exactly the same name. tire shopping can be weird; 
aside from everything else, be advised that some tire outlets 
actually have models made for them that aren't available elsewhere, 
so if you have a problem and need to replace one, replacement can be 
impossible anywhere else."


The OEM tires and the replacement tires were the same name.  I 
suspect you are correct that the OEM tires (even though they have 
the same name) are not made the same as the replacements.


By the way, I got the tires at Sam's.  They do seem to have the best 
price/value on name brand tires.




Donald H. Snook



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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 7

2009-01-19 Thread E M

I'm running Vista now too, but I think for my next pc, I'm going back to
Mac, probably a laptop of some sort.  Not sure if I'll buy and run a copy of
xp on it, as I think pretty much everything I do I can find mac applications
for.  We'll see, this current pc is probably ok for another couple of
years.

What I would like to do, is get an external HD and start backing up
everything from several old computers on it.  My other pc, was an old one
with a first generation usb port, so I'd like to find one that reads all the
way back to 1.0.  Anyone suggest a brand?  Needs to read mp3 files, photos,
vids, etc from both older pc and mac op systems.

Thanks,

Ed
300E

2009/1/19 Douglas 

> I just thought that I would let you all know that I d/l'd the new Windows
> 7. Have been using it for a few days, and though it looks real nice I have
> to say that it does take a WHOLE LOT of memory. With the browser open and a
> mail program the used memory is above 1.2 Gigs of ram. I installed the
> windows 7 mail program which I think is called Windows Live. It has very
> nice large font that makes the mail easy to read though there is no way to
> select all the old mail and delete. So far I have to delete each one by
> pressing the delete key.
>
> I am sending this using Vista and its memory use is just above 1.0 Gigs. So
> not alot different.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

Archer wrote: "Be careful where you recite The Raven, Donald. Especially if
there are football players around."

Well, I was a football player in school (and a member of Mensa). But, I do
agree Edgar Allan Poe does not mix that well with most Football players.

I had to do a similar presentation in Speech and Debate Class in high school.
I did Martin Luther King's I have a Dream Speech (sort of ironic considering
that today is the celebration). I had forgotten about that until your story
reminded me. Most of those high school speeches were boring to everyone except
the teacher. I did do a "demonstration" speech that was very popular with the
students, but less well-received by the teacher. My demonstration speech was
how to cut-up and cook a chicken. I bought a whole chicken and then cut it up
into pieces. I had a poster of a very scantily clad woman in a very small
bikini that I used to compare the parts of the chicken to the parts of the
woman on the poster. It went something like this, "Using the knife to carve
the meat off the breastbone, you can remove the whole breast." Here is the
chicken breast and here is the corresponding part on our human model." I
didn't get very far into the speech when the teacher told me that was enough.
She gave me a B on the speech, but scolded me for the poster. I told her she
had required a visual aid and I thought the poster would capture the attention
of the students.

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Re: [MBZ] Tires

Ernest wrote: "first off, there are many models of "Potenzas"; the name has
been so overused by the Marketing wonks that there's no way to know what tire
you're talking about unless you reference the entire name. in personal
experience, i once went through 8 OEM Goodyear Wranglers in ~40,000 miles on my
J**p. shopping around later, i found that the name "Wrangler" is actually used
on several different models, and as bad as the OEM Wranglers were the Wrangler
MT/Rs have proven to be one of the best tires i've ever used. OEM-spec tires
are quite frequently crap; at least the case used to be that they were
sometimes supplied to the auto mfr for little-to-nothing, with the idea that at
replacement time most customers would just walk in and say "gimme' some more of
what was on it.". sadly, i've read that what was supplied as OEM sometimes
truly was not the same tire as what was available aftermarket, even though they
had exactly the same name. tire shopping can be weird; aside from everything
else, be advised that some tire outlets actually have models made for them that
aren't available elsewhere, so if you have a problem and need to replace one,
replacement can be impossible anywhere else."

The OEM tires and the replacement tires were the same name. I suspect you are
correct that the OEM tires (even though they have the same name) are not made
the same as the replacements.

By the way, I got the tires at Sam's. They do seem to have the best
price/value on name brand tires.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

2009-01-19 Thread dave walton

Two people I've known have been Mensa members (and admitted it). One
drives a truck cross country and has no hobbies or family, the other
is a chess master and a diagnosed schizophrenic who has trouble
keeping on his meds. That's a club I have no desire to join - not that
they would have me. I rather enjoy being 'dumb' enough to enjoy my
life.

-Dave Walton


On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Archer  wrote:
> There are some very intelligent folks on this list too.  Two that I know of 
> are members of Mensa.  http://us.mensa.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Join  
> Being a member of several Mensa lists as well as this list, I've been 
> surprised at how similar the off-topic discussions are and how difficult it 
> would be to separate those written by Mensans from those written by members 
> of this list.  In fact, some OT submissions on this list are far more astute 
> than those about the same topics on the Mensa lists.
> Anyone who thinks they would like to take the tests or simply mail in their 
> transcripts which contain high scores in tests given in high school can click 
> on the link above which would give you some idea of whether or not your 
> existing test scores would be sufficient.  Mensa has about 50,000 US members 
> and even more in other countries.  There is even a "jobs registry" that's 
> been recently started since so many people are being layed off.  Many 
> businesses give Mensans first shot at a job.
> Good luck,
> Gerry
> '83 300D and 240D
>
> P.S. I memorized and recited The Raven in high school english class in a 
> small farming town in Indiana during WW-2.  After class, two football players 
> said if I ever made them sit through anything as boring as that again they 
> would beat the s--t out of me.  I think it did raise my grade since the 
> teacher was a big fan of Poe.  Be careful where you recite The Raven, Donald. 
>  Especially if there are football players around. (o:]
>
> -
> From: Donald Snook
> This is not Mercedes related, but we have some very literate folks on here, 
> so I thought I would share.  Today is Edgar Allen Poe's 200th Birthday.  One 
> of his most famous works is also what gave him his big break. So, here the 
> text of The Raven (this is really best experienced outloud by someone who 
> understands the rhythm of the poem.
>
> The Raven
> Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
> Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
> While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
> As of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
> Tis some visitor," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door;
> Only this, and nothing more."..snip
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

Rich wrote: "Did you look closely at the name?  They could be PAtenzas, a 
Chinese knock-off."

That made me laugh!  They were the real thing - Bridgestone Potenza.


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Re: [MBZ] Tires

Mitch wrote: "The SX4 with base drivetrain specs out similar to my 2.4L 
Achieva. 2745lb, 143hp, even has the same size tires. 26,000 miles would 
correspond to a treadwear rating well under 200, I would think. Was it a base 
car with 195/65R15, or a high end model with sporty tires on it? Have they been 
inflated to 20psi or something?"

It was the higher end model with AWD.  The tires were 205/60/16.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

There are some very intelligent folks on this list too.  Two that I know of are 
members of Mensa.  http://us.mensa.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Join  Being a 
member of several Mensa lists as well as this list, I've been surprised at how 
similar the off-topic discussions are and how difficult it would be to separate 
those written by Mensans from those written by members of this list.  In fact, 
some OT submissions on this list are far more astute than those about the same 
topics on the Mensa lists.
Anyone who thinks they would like to take the tests or simply mail in their 
transcripts which contain high scores in tests given in high school can click 
on the link above which would give you some idea of whether or not your 
existing test scores would be sufficient.  Mensa has about 50,000 US members 
and even more in other countries.  There is even a "jobs registry" that's been 
recently started since so many people are being layed off.  Many businesses 
give Mensans first shot at a job.
Good luck,
Gerry
'83 300D and 240D

P.S. I memorized and recited The Raven in high school english class in a small 
farming town in Indiana during WW-2.  After class, two football players said if 
I ever made them sit through anything as boring as that again they would beat 
the s--t out of me.  I think it did raise my grade since the teacher was a big 
fan of Poe.  Be careful where you recite The Raven, Donald.  Especially if 
there are football players around. (o:]

-
From: Donald Snook 
This is not Mercedes related, but we have some very literate folks on here, so 
I thought I would share.  Today is Edgar Allen Poe's 200th Birthday.  One of 
his most famous works is also what gave him his big break. So, here the text of 
The Raven (this is really best experienced outloud by someone who understands 
the rhythm of the poem.

The Raven
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
Tis some visitor," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door;
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Re: [MBZ] tranny jack sure makes install easy

2009-01-19 Thread R A Bennell

What sort of tranny jack did you get? I initially had one of the things that 
slips into the floor jack but couldn't
use it as I did not have sufficient room under the vehicle. Then I swapped it 
for one of the scissor style tranny
jacks. I have used it a couple of times but still had to have some help to 
balance the tranny and get it slipped
into place since it was on a 4X4 and the transfer case was still attached. Made 
it lean a bit to one side.

Randy

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Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] tranny jack sure makes install easy


Even I could have told you that! :)

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Well since I already had a tranny ready to go in, I decided to slap an
> auto back on the 190D.  I bought the harbor freight tranny jack a
> while back but this is the first time I used it.  Boy does it make
> putting the tranny in a snap.  I usually just use a floor jack and
> balance it on that.  Always falls off a couple of times before I get
> it up there where it should be, then you have to wrestle it around to
> get it in place. With the tranny jack, it just raises in place, then
> you can adjust the angles to get it to line up exactly right.  Got it
> done in about an hour.  Got a couple more things to button up tomorrow
> then will see how it works.

--
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'87 300SDL (281,xxx mi)
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (183 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread ernest breakfield

Donald,

first off, there are many models of "Potenzas"; the name has been so
overused by the Marketing wonks that there's no way to know what tire
you're talking about unless you reference the entire name.
in personal experience, i once went through 8 OEM Goodyear Wranglers
in ~40,000 miles on my J**p. shopping around later, i found that the
name "Wrangler" is actually used on several different models, and as bad
as the OEM Wranglers were the Wrangler MT/Rs have proven to be one of
the best tires i've ever used.

OEM-spec tires are quite frequently crap; at least the case used to
be that they were sometimes supplied to the auto mfr for
little-to-nothing, with the idea that at replacement time most customers
would just walk in and say "gimme' some more of what was on it.". sadly,
i've read that what was supplied as OEM sometimes truly was not the same
tire as what was available aftermarket, even though they had exactly the
same name.

tire shopping can be weird; aside from everything else, be advised
that some tire outlets actually have models made for them that aren't
available elsewhere, so if you have a problem and need to replace one,
replacement can be impossible anywhere else.

cheers!
e

Donald Snook wrote:
My mother in law was in town this weekend (everyone made it out alive!) and I noticed that her tires her completely bald. So, I started doing some research and spent time trying to find her the best deals on tires. It gave me something to do and was a relief. But, I am curious about something. She has a 2008 Suzuki SX4. It's a cute little car and she really likes it. The car serves her needs because she wanted a new, but cheap car, that got good mileage. It is small and she likes it. I would hate driving it. But, it had Bridgestone Potenza tires on as the OEM tire. Do the tire manufacturers make a different tire for OEM, than they sell in the tire shops. The car only had 26,000 miles and the tires were completely worn. I priced a bunch of tires and found a replacement Bridgestone Potenza that was very highly rated. The replacement tire had a high wear rating (460) and was A rated for temp and traction. It appears to me that bridgestone must make more
than one Potenza (with the same letter designation) and one is the cheap version which is used as OEM and then a replacement that is much better. I always thought that if you bought the same model that they were the same. But, the replacement tires (even with the same model designation) were different from the originals.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

2009-01-19 Thread Rich Thomas

se reclining
On the cushion's velvet lining that the lamplight gloated o'er,
But whose velvet violet lining with the lamplight gloating o'er
She shall press, ah, nevermore!

Then, methought, the air grew denser, perfumed from an unseen censer
Swung by seraphim whose footfalls tinkled on the tufted floor.
"Wretch," I cried, "thy God hath lent thee- by these angels he hath sent thee-
Respite- respite and nepenthe from thy memories of Lenore!
Quaff, O quaff this kind nepenthe, and forget this lost Lenore!"
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore!"

"Prophet!" said I, "thing of evil! Prophet still, if bird or devil!
Whether tempter sent, or whether tempest tossed thee here ashore,
Desolate, yet all undaunted, on this desert land enchanted-
On this home by horror haunted- tell me truly, I implore:
Is there- is there balm in Gilead? Tell me- tell me, I implore!"
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore."

"Prophet!" said I, "thing of evil! Prophet still, if bird or devil!
By that heaven that bends above us- by that God we both adore-
Tell this soul with sorrow laden, if, within the distant Aidenn,
It shall clasp a sainted maiden, whom the angels name Lenore-
Clasp a rare and radiant maiden, whom the angels name Lenore?
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore."

"Be that word our sign of parting, bird or fiend!' I shrieked, upstarting-
"Get thee back into the tempest and the Night's Plutonian shore!
Leave no black plume as a token of that lie thy soul hath spoken!
Leave my loneliness unbroken! -- quit the bust above my door!
Take thy beak from out my heart, and take thy form from off my door!"
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore."

And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming.
And the lamplight o'er him streaming throws the shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted- nevermore!


Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread Loren Faeth

In general, the tires not good enough to meet the OEM spec are put on
the replacement market. Or at least this is how it used to work.

At 09:42 AM 1/19/2009, you wrote:
My mother in law was in town this weekend (everyone made it out
alive!) and I noticed that her tires her completely bald. So, I
started doing some research and spent time trying to find her the
best deals on tires. It gave me something to do and was a
relief. But, I am curious about something. She has a 2008 Suzuki
SX4. It's a cute little car and she really likes it. The car serves
her needs because she wanted a new, but cheap car, that got good
mileage. It is small and she likes it. I would hate driving
it. But, it had Bridgestone Potenza tires on as the OEM tire. Do
the tire manufacturers make a different tire for OEM, than they sell
in the tire shops. The car only had 26,000 miles and the tires were
completely worn. I priced a bunch of tires and found a replacement
Bridgestone Potenza that was very highly rated. The replacement
tire had a high wear rating (460) and was A rated for temp and
traction. It appears to me that bridgestone must make more than one
Potenza (with the same letter designation) and one is the cheap
version which is used as OEM and then a replacement that is much
better. I always thought that if you bought the same model that
they were the same. But, the replacement tires (even with the same
model designation) were different from the originals.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread Rich Thomas

Did you look closely at the name? They could be PAtenzas, a Chinese
knock-off.

--R

Donald Snook wrote:

My mother in law was in town this weekend (everyone made it out alive!) and I
noticed that her tires her completely bald. So, I started doing some research
and spent time trying to find her the best deals on tires. It gave me something
to do and was a relief. But, I am curious about something. She has a 2008
Suzuki SX4. It's a cute little car and she really likes it. The car serves her
needs because she wanted a new, but cheap car, that got good mileage. It is
small and she likes it. I would hate driving it. But, it had Bridgestone
Potenza tires on as the OEM tire. Do the tire manufacturers make a different
tire for OEM, than they sell in the tire shops. The car only had 26,000 miles
and the tires were completely worn. I priced a bunch of tires and found a
replacement Bridgestone Potenza that was very highly rated. The replacement
tire had a high wear rating (460) and was A rated for temp and traction. It
appears to me that bridgestone must make more than one Potenza (with the same
letter designation) and one is the cheap version which is used as OEM and then
a replacement that is much better. I always thought that if you bought the
same model that they were the same. But, the replacement tires (even with the
same model designation) were different from the originals.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Tires

2009-01-19 Thread dave walton

It's just as likely that she parked in the wrong garage or used valet
parking and had her rims and tires swapped with a beater one of the
attendants was driving.

-Dave Walton

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> There's a tradeoff between grip, wear, and rolling resistance. OEM tires
> usually do well on rolling resistance and wear. 26,000 miles is
> unbelievable. The 165/80R13 cheap OEM Goodyear Invictas (treadwear 300) on
> my Horizon went over 70,000mi, and my mom's 2004 Chevy has over 50,000mi on
> its 2/3 gone Goodyear Eagle GA OEM tires.
>
> The SX4 with base drivetrain specs out similar to my 2.4L Achieva. 2745lb,
> 143hp, even has the same size tires.
> 26,000 miles would correspond to a treadwear rating well under 200, I would
> think. Was it a base car with 195/65R15, or a high end model with sporty
> tires on it?
> Have they been inflated to 20psi or something?
>
> Mitch.
>
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[MBZ] OT Windows 7

2009-01-19 Thread Douglas

I just thought that I would let you all know that I d/l'd the new Windows 7. 
Have been using it for a few days, and though it looks real nice I have to say 
that it does take a WHOLE LOT of memory. With the browser open and a mail 
program the used memory is above 1.2 Gigs of ram. I installed the windows 7 
mail program which I think is called Windows Live. It has very nice large font 
that makes the mail easy to read though there is no way to select all the old 
mail and delete. So far I have to delete each one by pressing the delete key. 

I am sending this using Vista and its memory use is just above 1.0 Gigs. So not 
alot different.

Douglas 
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[MBZ] OT: Edgar Allen Poe

ating o'er
She shall press, ah, nevermore!

Then, methought, the air grew denser, perfumed from an unseen censer
Swung by seraphim whose footfalls tinkled on the tufted floor.
"Wretch," I cried, "thy God hath lent thee- by these angels he hath sent thee-
Respite- respite and nepenthe from thy memories of Lenore!
Quaff, O quaff this kind nepenthe, and forget this lost Lenore!"
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore!"

"Prophet!" said I, "thing of evil! Prophet still, if bird or devil!
Whether tempter sent, or whether tempest tossed thee here ashore,
Desolate, yet all undaunted, on this desert land enchanted-
On this home by horror haunted- tell me truly, I implore:
Is there- is there balm in Gilead? Tell me- tell me, I implore!"
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore."

"Prophet!" said I, "thing of evil! Prophet still, if bird or devil!
By that heaven that bends above us- by that God we both adore-
Tell this soul with sorrow laden, if, within the distant Aidenn,
It shall clasp a sainted maiden, whom the angels name Lenore-
Clasp a rare and radiant maiden, whom the angels name Lenore?
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore."

"Be that word our sign of parting, bird or fiend!' I shrieked, upstarting-
"Get thee back into the tempest and the Night's Plutonian shore!
Leave no black plume as a token of that lie thy soul hath spoken!
Leave my loneliness unbroken! -- quit the bust above my door!
Take thy beak from out my heart, and take thy form from off my door!"
Quoth the raven, "Nevermore."

And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming.
And the lamplight o'er him streaming throws the shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted- nevermore!


Donald H. Snook
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300 West Douglas
P.O. Box 207
Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
Tel. (316) 263-5851
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Re: [MBZ] Tires

There's a tradeoff between grip, wear, and rolling resistance. OEM tires usually 
do well on rolling resistance and wear. 26,000 miles is unbelievable. The 
165/80R13 cheap OEM Goodyear Invictas (treadwear 300) on my Horizon went over 
70,000mi, and my mom's 2004 Chevy has over 50,000mi on its 2/3 gone Goodyear 
Eagle GA OEM tires.


The SX4 with base drivetrain specs out similar to my 2.4L Achieva. 2745lb, 
143hp, even has the same size tires.
26,000 miles would correspond to a treadwear rating well under 200, I would 
think. Was it a base car with 195/65R15, or a high end model with sporty tires 
on it?

Have they been inflated to 20psi or something?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Tires

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Gas gauge and temperature gauge jump up, fall back: Comments?

2009-01-19 Thread barry Stark

Bob -
I'm guessing that Jim and Craig are right about the grounds but just in case
that doesn't help...I once found a crack in the printed circuit board on the
back of the cluster in my 107 that was doing some similar things. Easy fix,
just solder a piece of wire across the break.

Barry


> Now with everything back in, while driving, the gas gauge and temperature
> gauge will occasionally jump up and then fall back and maybe jump up again
> or jump up and down half a dozen times:  Gas goes from maybe the mark
> below full to full, temperature goes from maybe 100C to 11OC.  



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[MBZ] Bill (B2), Drop Me A Note Offline

2009-01-19 Thread LWB250

Bill,

When you get a minute while getting settled with your new HVAC job, give me a 
shout offline.  I've got a couple of questions about your employer

Thanks,

Dan


  

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Re: [MBZ] Vacuum leak