Re: [MBZ] Is the trucking business picking back up?

[Kevin]

Odd. It's dropped ten cents a gallon over the last week and a half out here.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 09:11:54PM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote:
> Yes, Diesel fuel is going up.  That tells me more freight is moving.

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Re: [MBZ] electric cars - was Cash for clunkers hits home

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:19:05 -0400 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> >>> How many kJ in a 100 volt, 1 farad capacitor?
> >>>   
> >> U = 0.5 C V^2
> >>
> >>  = 0.5 x 1 x 100^2
> >>
> >>  = 5000 J = 5 kJ
>
> That would get your attention.

In my lab in graduate school, we had a discharge chamber that had high
voltage power supplies to charge up several (small) high voltage
capacitors before they were dumped in series into the chamber, many times
per second.

The capacitors for the discharge were too small and the power supplies
charged them up too fast to see if the power supplies were working
properly. So, I had a 100 microfarad, 10 kilovolt capacitor (= 5 kJ) that
I used as a load to test out the power supplies. It took the supplies
several seconds to charge up that capacitor, which gave enough time to
observe that all the lights that were supposed to be flashing in a
specific order actually did so.

One evening, something went wrong with one of the power supplies. I
connected the supply up to the big capacitor and ran it and found that the
supply was indeed malfunctioning.

I then took the discharge sticks to discharge the capacitor. These were 1"
diameter plexiglas rods with 1/2" copper electrodes in their ends. Between
the electrodes a pack of resistors were wired to dissipate the energy in a
controlled fashion. At least they were supposed to.

It turns out, unbeknownst to me, that the person who had built the
resistor pack had used ADJUSTABLE wirewound resistors. Those resistors
have a stripe down one side where there is NO insulation on the windings
(to provide a way to adjust the resistance). Also unbeknownst to me, the
malfunctioning power supply had charged the big capacitor up to much more
voltage than I was accustomed to using. When I went to discharge it, the
extra voltage arced across the bare windings of the resistor pack and
discharged the capacitor VERY rapidly. At most milliseconds kind of
rapidly. With a VERY loud BANG! My ears were ringing 2 hours after the
incident. In addition, the parts of the resistors and the connecting wire
(12 gauge stranded) were all over the lab, more than 20 feet away from the
site of the calamity. People came running in from other labs to see if I
was OK.

I called my advisor, told him what happened, and went home, more than a
little shaken.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Just back from Boston

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:48:52 -0700 Redghost  wrote:

> Lots of the small colleges are running at $50k.  Amherst, Holy Cross,  
> Tufts, Bowdion, Colby, middlebury, Providence, Brown, Renselear,  
> Wheaton,

As in Wheaton, Illinois? Or some other place?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Just back from Boston

[Redghost]

Guidance staff figured the boy would fit well in these schools.  He is  
not interested in local schools or nice ones below 45 degrees  
latitude.  Sun seems to be too much for him.  I say University of St.  
Petersburg or the Lenin school of larger schooling


clay

On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:58 PM, OK Don wrote:

The "Brand Name" private schools are at or pushing $50,000 per year  
now.
Having a daughter who just graduated witha Masters from Yale, and is  
still
job hunting, I have doubts about the return for your investment, at  
least in
the current economy. (At least she went on a scholarship - cost me  
very

little).

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Wonko the Sane   
wrote:



$50K?  I sure hope that was Harvard. You can get a private, tight
teacher/student ratio small university in Iowa for only $35K, with  
lots of

financial assistance.

(Daughter just got her BA from one of them, and thank God she got the
degree
in just three years rather than dragging it out for four.)


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Re: [MBZ] Just back from Boston

[Redghost]

Lots of the small colleges are running at $50k.  Amherst, Holy Cross,  
Tufts, Bowdion, Colby, middlebury, Providence, Brown, Renselear,  
Wheaton, Bennington, and a few more that we just crossed off the list  
and are gone from my mind


clay

On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:


$50K?  I sure hope that was Harvard. You can get a private, tight
teacher/student ratio small university in Iowa for only $35K, with  
lots of

financial assistance.

(Daughter just got her BA from one of them, and thank God she got  
the degree

in just three years rather than dragging it out for four.)

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Redghost   
wrote:


Was out east looking at schools for oldest son.  Not really  
enthused about
$50k per annum for edjumakation.  Marine Corps will do right by  
him.  SWMBA
was not happy that I was cruising CL looking for a ride back  
home... HATE TO

FLY.

Well I found out why there are so many institutions of higher  
education in

the area.  No local forms of intelligent life.  They all sound like
harridans, goombas or dirty cops.




--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Peter Frederick]

But a standard IP won't give you that much more fuel, this isn't a  
Mack or a "trick" pump (or the cheapo electronic stuff on Cummins  
engines).


Without added fuel you also won't get much boost except when you have  
your foot to the floor, and even they you won't get anywhere near as  
much as with added fuel.


We are talking at least double NA fuel delivery, by the way

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
If you have no boost enrichment, you dont get more power.  I dont think 
I have ever seen a turbo diesel engine without some sort of enrichment 
setup.


Tyler was talking about increasing the base fuel volume as a substitute for ALDA 
enrichment. He also mentioned that if you do it that way, it smokes like Bill 
Clinton at a marijuana farm if you floor the pedal without waiting for boost to 
build.


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Re: [MBZ] Is the trucking business picking back up?

[dave walton]

The northeast is already experiencing cold nights. Demand for home
heating oil is picking up too.

-Dave Walton

On 8/27/09, Loren Faeth  wrote:
> Yes, Diesel fuel is going up.  That tells me more freight is moving.
>
>
>  At 07:25 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>
> > I have been noticing ads hiring drivers lately, even drivers with no
> experience and will train.  Have not seen that in a while.
> >
> > --
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> > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
> 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81
> 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
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[MBZ] Chowdah Q

[tom tomscat]

Hi Curt,

 

Forget sending the check please accept it, with my compliments, as a small 
donation for supplies for the ChowdahQ next month.  It's not much, but what the 
heck.  

 

And... I knew it was a double entendre, btw.  I just didn't want Fred to think 
that no one noticed his little witticism.

 

:)

 

On a more serious note, while looking for ta ta in the urban dictionary,  
(honest!) I stumbled on this:

http://www.savethetatas.com/

 

I wasn't quite sure what to make of it at first,  was it serious or tongue 
in cheekbut it actually IS a commercial enterprise that donates a portion 
of the proceeds to the fight against breast cancer.  and does so with a 
sense of humor.  Hmmm.  I am still not sure what to make of it, but it is 
certainly a novel approach in my experience to a very serious subject.  I am 
reminded of the whole Norman Cousins/cancer/Marx Brothers Films story a few 
years back.  

 

I personally think that there is not nearly enough laughter in the world.   I 
try to do my part to correct that.  As does Fred, I see. 

 

:)

 

Ta ta, :)

Tom Schuch 

SE Connecticut

1975 W115 300D

and a bunch of BMWs

 

 

 

Message: 8
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:08:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Curt Raymond 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas
To: Diesel List 
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Tom,
 
I'm glad you posted, it reminded me to send you a check. That should go out 
tomorrow.
 
What we've got from Fred is known as a double entendre...
Heres a little comic that illustrates what I'm getting at:
http://chugworth.com/?strip_id=65
:)
 
This is almost as much fun as the time I posted "what a maroon" and Chuck L 
(what ever happened to him?) thought I ment "moron" and reminded me that 
"maroon" is a color...
 
-Curt
 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:30:55 -0400
From: tom tomscat 
Subject: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas
To: 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
 
 
Yes, Fred, but he was referring to those vehicles from India that go by 
that name.
 
 
 
Tom Schuch
 
1975 W115 300D
 
and a bunch of Bmws
 
 
Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:13:46 -0400
From: Frederick W Moir 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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R.
So aren't we all!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
 
At 01:54 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>I'm waiting for the larger Tatas.
>--R


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Re: [MBZ] electric cars - was Cash for clunkers hits home

[Rich Thomas]

That would get your attention.

--R

OK Don wrote:

Cool - thanks.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

  

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:02:25 -0500 OK Don  wrote:



How many kJ in a 100 volt, 1 farad capacitor?
  

U = 0.5 C V^2

 = 0.5 x 1 x 100^2

 = 5000 J = 5 kJ


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Re: [MBZ] electric cars - was Cash for clunkers hits home

[OK Don]

Cool - thanks.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:02:25 -0500 OK Don  wrote:
>
> > How many kJ in a 100 volt, 1 farad capacitor?
>
> U = 0.5 C V^2
>
>  = 0.5 x 1 x 100^2
>
>  = 5000 J = 5 kJ
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] electric cars - was Cash for clunkers hits home

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:02:25 -0500 OK Don  wrote:

> How many kJ in a 100 volt, 1 farad capacitor?

U = 0.5 C V^2

  = 0.5 x 1 x 100^2

  = 5000 J = 5 kJ


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[Wonko the Sane]

Won't happen -- we are the uncircumcised.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Wonko wrote:
> > MBCA ransom ... I won't pay it.
>
> Alex wrote:
> >> Can somebody post the four pics from the thread here for those of us
> >> who don't want to sign up for yet another web message board?  :)
>
> Yeah - git the pics for us and let us see the monster, puleez.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Is the trucking business picking back up?

[Loren Faeth]

Yes, Diesel fuel is going up.  That tells me more freight is moving.

At 07:25 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
I have been noticing ads hiring drivers lately, even drivers with no 
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

If you have no boost enrichment, you dont get more power.  I dont think 
I have ever seen a turbo diesel engine without some sort of enrichment 
setup.


tyler wrote:
MB had good reason to add the modifications they did to the turbo 
engines, and if I was designing a turbo diesel I would add the same. 
That doesn't mean the engine will self destruct or not work correctly 
without them! They are good features to have on a diesel engine which 
make it run better, but you'll find plenty of reliable and durable 
turbo diesel engines without oil squirters or boost enrichment.


It's absurd to accuse me of thinking I "know better" than Mercedes to 
think those features aren't absolutely necessary. Mercedes isn't in 
the business of doing only what is necessary to have a simple reliable 
vehicle. They have a specific purpose, cost, and advantages which both 
the Mercedes engineers and I are aware of. If you're designing a new 
engine from scratch it's great to add them, but if you're adding a 
turbo to an engine that doesn't have them- it will work just fine.


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Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[Mountain Man]

Wonko wrote:
> MBCA ransom ... I won't pay it.

Alex wrote:
>> Can somebody post the four pics from the thread here for those of us
>> who don't want to sign up for yet another web message board?  :)

Yeah - git the pics for us and let us see the monster, puleez.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Just back from Boston

[OK Don]

The "Brand Name" private schools are at or pushing $50,000 per year now.
Having a daughter who just graduated witha Masters from Yale, and is still
job hunting, I have doubts about the return for your investment, at least in
the current economy. (At least she went on a scholarship - cost me very
little).

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Wonko the Sane  wrote:

> $50K?  I sure hope that was Harvard. You can get a private, tight
> teacher/student ratio small university in Iowa for only $35K, with lots of
> financial assistance.
>
> (Daughter just got her BA from one of them, and thank God she got the
> degree
> in just three years rather than dragging it out for four.)
>
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Re: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas

[LWB250]

Per the Urban Dictionary:

"A term of derision often uttered by Bugs Bunny when referring to an 
interaction with a dopey adversary. It is a mispronunciation of the word 
"Moron""

So his supposition was correct.

Dan 

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> From: Curt Raymond 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas
> To: "Diesel List" 
> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 9:08 PM
> Tom,
> 
> I'm glad you posted, it reminded me to send you a check.
> That should go out tomorrow.
> 
> What we've got from Fred is known as a double entendre...
> Heres a little comic that illustrates what I'm getting at:
> http://chugworth.com/?strip_id=65
> :)
> 
> This is almost as much fun as the time I posted "what a
> maroon" and Chuck L (what ever happened to him?) thought I
> ment "moron" and reminded me that "maroon" is a color...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:30:55 -0400
> From: tom tomscat 
> Subject: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas
> To: 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> 
> 
> Yes, Fred, but he was referring to those vehicles from
> India that go by that name.
> 
>  
> 
> Tom Schuch
> 
> 1975 W115 300D
> 
> and a bunch of Bmws
>  
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:13:46 -0400
> From: Frederick W Moir 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...
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> So aren't we all!
> Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ coming up

[Wonko the Sane]

I'd been there if I could. Curt can give you a first-hand account of what I
am like face to face. And I am not nearly as old as he sees me to be.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

> Just a reminder that Saturday Sept 12th, we will have the 2nd annual New
> England MB chowdah fest at Goddard park, Warwick, RI. .  We would really
> welcome any fellow MB owners from outside of NE as well.
>
> Let me know if you plan to attend and I will then send out a more detailed
> note about directions, menu, details, etc.
>
> Dwight
>
>
>
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
>
> 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.
>
> 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD).
>
> 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
>
> Wickford, RI
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Re: [MBZ] W115 manual steering box & column

[Mathieu J. Cama]

The column is a different length from p/s to manual. BTDT retrofitting p/s into 
a manual steering '72 220d.

Mathieu


>  ---Original Message---
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>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 manual steering box & column
>  Sent: 28 Aug '09 01:07
>  
>  I don't think you will need to change anything but the box, steering  
>  column is probably the same.
>  
>  Peter
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ coming up

[Curt Raymond]

Posted to Peach Parts. There were a couple maybes the last time I posted there.

I'm thinking I've pretty much blown it for requesting donations... 2 weeks 
isn't really enough time. Oh well, theres always next year, since the letter is 
already written I can send it in July or something. I'll put a note in my 
calender...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:19:23 -0400
From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" 
Subject: [MBZ] ChowdahQ coming up
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
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Just a reminder that Saturday Sept 12th, we will have the 2nd annual New
England MB chowdah fest at Goddard park, Warwick, RI. .  We would really
welcome any fellow MB owners from outside of
 NE as well.

Let me know if you plan to attend and I will then send out a more detailed
note about directions, menu, details, etc.

Dwight




  
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Re: [MBZ] W115 manual steering box & column

[Peter Frederick]

I don't think you will need to change anything but the box, steering  
column is probably the same.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas

[Curt Raymond]

Tom,

I'm glad you posted, it reminded me to send you a check. That should go out 
tomorrow.

What we've got from Fred is known as a double entendre...
Heres a little comic that illustrates what I'm getting at:
http://chugworth.com/?strip_id=65
:)

This is almost as much fun as the time I posted "what a maroon" and Chuck L 
(what ever happened to him?) thought I ment "moron" and reminded me that 
"maroon" is a color...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:30:55 -0400
From: tom tomscat 
Subject: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas
To: 
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Yes, Fred, but he was referring to those vehicles from India that go by 
that name.

 

Tom Schuch

1975 W115 300D

and a bunch of Bmws
 

Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:13:46 -0400
From: Frederick W Moir 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...
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R.
So aren't we all!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
 
At 01:54 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>I'm waiting for the larger Tatas.
>--R
 


  
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Re: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Thanks Tom, I missed that.
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI
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Subject: [MBZ] waiting for the Tatas


Yes, Fred, but he was referring to those vehicles from India that go by
that name.

 

Tom Schuch

1975 W115 300D

and a bunch of Bmws
 

Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:13:46 -0400
From: Frederick W Moir 
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R.
So aren't we all!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
 
At 


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[MBZ] W115 manual steering box & column

[Clay]

Hi all!

I have a 73 220d with power steering and I want to convert to manual steering.

Anyone have a manual steering box, steering column & bakelite steering wheel 
for sale?

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Re: [MBZ] Just back from Boston

[Wonko the Sane]

$50K?  I sure hope that was Harvard. You can get a private, tight
teacher/student ratio small university in Iowa for only $35K, with lots of
financial assistance.

(Daughter just got her BA from one of them, and thank God she got the degree
in just three years rather than dragging it out for four.)

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Redghost  wrote:

> Was out east looking at schools for oldest son.  Not really enthused about
> $50k per annum for edjumakation.  Marine Corps will do right by him.  SWMBA
> was not happy that I was cruising CL looking for a ride back home... HATE TO
> FLY.
>
> Well I found out why there are so many institutions of higher education in
> the area.  No local forms of intelligent life.  They all sound like
> harridans, goombas or dirty cops.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Clay
> Seattle Bioburner
>
> 1972 220D - Gump
> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
> The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[WILTON]

And he has one in the SD he's parting out.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo


oh boy, here we go.  I have had quite a few non turbo engines with turbos 
put on them come thru locked up from melted pistons.  Engine life is 
shortened quite a bit, and they do not make near as much power as a 
factory turbo motor.  Why fool with it when there are plenty of turbo 
motors out there?


tyler wrote:
We've had this discussion before, but I do not believe that their would 
be any significant problems in adding a turbo to a non-turbo block, and 
the engine would last just as long.


The IP can be tuned to provide sufficient fuel, but metering will be 
slightly less accurate, which might mean slightly more smoke or slightly 
less power- but not a huge difference.


The piston oil squirters are a good design feature, but they aren't 
necessary, and probably don't affect engine life much at all if the 
engine is tuned properly to keep EGTs down- they certainly wouldn't 
result in "very short" engine life.


The Volvo D24 is a less robust motor than these mercedes motors, but the 
design differences between the turbo and non-turbo models are similar- 
yet I've know a few people who added a turbo to the non-turbo motors and 
experienced no significant problems.


Tyler



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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Loren Faeth]

Amen.   IF you want a turbo, it is VERY easy to put in a turbo 
engine.  It will not melt pistons and does have more power!


At 07:21 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
oh boy, here we go.  I have had quite a few non turbo engines with 
turbos put on them come thru locked up from melted pistons.  Engine 
life is shortened quite a bit, and they do not make near as much 
power as a factory turbo motor.  Why fool with it when there are 
plenty of turbo motors out there?


tyler wrote:
We've had this discussion before, but I do not believe that their 
would be any significant problems in adding a turbo to a non-turbo 
block, and the engine would last just as long.


The IP can be tuned to provide sufficient fuel, but metering will 
be slightly less accurate, which might mean slightly more smoke or 
slightly less power- but not a huge difference.


The piston oil squirters are a good design feature, but they aren't 
necessary, and probably don't affect engine life much at all if the 
engine is tuned properly to keep EGTs down- they certainly wouldn't 
result in "very short" engine life.


The Volvo D24 is a less robust motor than these mercedes motors, 
but the design differences between the turbo and non-turbo models 
are similar- yet I've know a few people who added a turbo to the 
non-turbo motors and experienced no significant problems.


Tyler


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Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[Wonko the Sane]

MBCA ransom ... I won't pay it.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
> > http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31348
> >
>
> Can somebody post the four pics from the thread here for those of us
> who don't want to sign up for yet another web message board?  :)
>
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[MBZ] Is the trucking business picking back up?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have been noticing ads hiring drivers lately, even drivers with no 
experience and will train.  Have not seen that in a while.


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

oh boy, here we go.  I have had quite a few non turbo engines with 
turbos put on them come thru locked up from melted pistons.  Engine life 
is shortened quite a bit, and they do not make near as much power as a 
factory turbo motor.  Why fool with it when there are plenty of turbo 
motors out there?


tyler wrote:
We've had this discussion before, but I do not believe that their 
would be any significant problems in adding a turbo to a non-turbo 
block, and the engine would last just as long.


The IP can be tuned to provide sufficient fuel, but metering will be 
slightly less accurate, which might mean slightly more smoke or 
slightly less power- but not a huge difference.


The piston oil squirters are a good design feature, but they aren't 
necessary, and probably don't affect engine life much at all if the 
engine is tuned properly to keep EGTs down- they certainly wouldn't 
result in "very short" engine life.


The Volvo D24 is a less robust motor than these mercedes motors, but 
the design differences between the turbo and non-turbo models are 
similar- yet I've know a few people who added a turbo to the non-turbo 
motors and experienced no significant problems.


Tyler



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Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
> http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31348
>

Can somebody post the four pics from the thread here for those of us
who don't want to sign up for yet another web message board?  :)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[Wonko the Sane]

Buy it and sell it to a friend. I will give him $50 for it in a few months.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> It would be easy to plug an OM621 into.  Probably not too hard to put in an
> OM602 turbo.  There is LOTS of space under the hood.
>
>
> At 12:14 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Too bad it's not diesel.
>>
>> Tyler
>>
>> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>>
>>> http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31348
>>>
>>> Top of the line 1965 Mercedes 220SEb "Heckflosse" or tailfin model. All
>>> original. Beige in and out. The car was originally bought by an older
>>> lady in Germany. It was driven and maintained there for several years.
>>> Imported to Santa Barbara in the late 60's where she mainly drove it to
>>> the country club (evidenced by lots of memorabilia left for the second
>>> owner). In 1990, she sold it to the second owner in Van Nuys with only
>>> 54,000 miles on it. He drove it to Los Angeles for work most days for 10
>>> years and held on to it for another five. He sold it to me two years ago
>>> with only 150,000 miles. It has a gasoline mechanically injected 120bhp
>>> 6 cylinder that purrs like a kitten and pulls like a horse. Fun to drive
>>> with great gas mileage. It has a 4 speed manual, "Kuhlmeister" original
>>> air conditioning, Becker Europa AM/FM radio and a host of other extra
>>> features. I still have documents with many years of original maintenance
>>> records, owners manuals and more. One of the first cars ever designed
>>> with safety crumple zones but you wouldn't know it with it's cool classy
>>> styling. Will send more pics on request. Best offer. 818-224-9065.
>>> djd...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Not mine, no affiliation with seller beyond MBCA membership, etc. etc.
>>>
>>> Very respectfully,
>>> /s/
>>> LCDR Max Dillon
>>> '87 300TD 313k miles
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[Loren Faeth]

It would be easy to plug an OM621 into.  Probably not too hard to put 
in an OM602 turbo.  There is LOTS of space under the hood.


At 12:14 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:

Too bad it's not diesel.

Tyler

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31348

Top of the line 1965 Mercedes 220SEb "Heckflosse" or tailfin model. All
original. Beige in and out. The car was originally bought by an older
lady in Germany. It was driven and maintained there for several years.
Imported to Santa Barbara in the late 60's where she mainly drove it to
the country club (evidenced by lots of memorabilia left for the second
owner). In 1990, she sold it to the second owner in Van Nuys with only
54,000 miles on it. He drove it to Los Angeles for work most days for 10
years and held on to it for another five. He sold it to me two years ago
with only 150,000 miles. It has a gasoline mechanically injected 120bhp
6 cylinder that purrs like a kitten and pulls like a horse. Fun to drive
with great gas mileage. It has a 4 speed manual, "Kuhlmeister" original
air conditioning, Becker Europa AM/FM radio and a host of other extra
features. I still have documents with many years of original maintenance
records, owners manuals and more. One of the first cars ever designed
with safety crumple zones but you wouldn't know it with it's cool classy
styling. Will send more pics on request. Best offer. 818-224-9065.
djd...@gmail.com

Not mine, no affiliation with seller beyond MBCA membership, etc. etc.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 313k miles
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[tyler]

All you need to do is adjust the fuel enrichment and timing to get the 
full power of a turbo engine without changing the IP, but it will be 
smoky when you first step on the throttle before the turbo builds boost- 
otherwise it will work fine. I've owned and seen many turbo diesels 
without boost enrichment.


Also, changing the IP for a junkyard one is trivial.

Tyler

Peter Frederick wrote:
Unless you change the IP to the boosted one, there IS no difference -- 
in performance, either, for the most part.  The minor increase in 
intake pressure you will get won't make much difference (except for no 
smoke and full power, maybe).  It's the added fuel that makes more power.


Add the fuel and you don't get enough piston cooling, resulting in 
scuffed pistons and excessive bore wear.  Over-fuel and you can get 
melted pistons, too, but that's rather unlikely in a pre-chamber engine.


Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[tyler]

MB had good reason to add the modifications they did to the turbo 
engines, and if I was designing a turbo diesel I would add the same. 
That doesn't mean the engine will self destruct or not work correctly 
without them! They are good features to have on a diesel engine which 
make it run better, but you'll find plenty of reliable and durable turbo 
diesel engines without oil squirters or boost enrichment.


It's absurd to accuse me of thinking I "know better" than Mercedes to 
think those features aren't absolutely necessary. Mercedes isn't in the 
business of doing only what is necessary to have a simple reliable 
vehicle. They have a specific purpose, cost, and advantages which both 
the Mercedes engineers and I are aware of. If you're designing a new 
engine from scratch it's great to add them, but if you're adding a turbo 
to an engine that doesn't have them- it will work just fine.


Tyler

Peter T. Arnold wrote:



tyler wrote:

We've had this discussion before, but I do not believe


Got to admire a fellow who "doesn't believe" what the M/B engineers 
know and he's will to act on it.


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"I hope the porn channel in my room is disabled."


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...

[Curt Raymond]

Assuming the 30mpg claim is correct I'll be interested. Supposedly they're not 
bringing the 5spd manual here in the initial release which is too bad.

Apparently early safety tests were not good, thats probably another important 
point to work on ;)

-Curt

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:25:40 -0400
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,    53310"
    
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...
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I think the Pik Up (sic) will sell OK, the SUV will not. 

-Max

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:12 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/taj-mahauler-we-drive-the-mahindra-
diesel-pik-up.html

-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Peter T. Arnold]

tyler wrote:

We've had this discussion before, but I do not believe


Got to admire a fellow who "doesn't believe" what the M/B engineers know 
and he's will to act on it.


--

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...so I booked into a hotel and said to the receptionist, 



"I hope the porn channel in my room is disabled."


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Peter Frederick]

Unless you change the IP to the boosted one, there IS no difference  
-- in performance, either, for the most part.  The minor increase in  
intake pressure you will get won't make much difference (except for  
no smoke and full power, maybe).  It's the added fuel that makes more  
power.


Add the fuel and you don't get enough piston cooling, resulting in  
scuffed pistons and excessive bore wear.  Over-fuel and you can get  
melted pistons, too, but that's rather unlikely in a pre-chamber engine.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[tyler]

We've had this discussion before, but I do not believe that their would 
be any significant problems in adding a turbo to a non-turbo block, and 
the engine would last just as long.


The IP can be tuned to provide sufficient fuel, but metering will be 
slightly less accurate, which might mean slightly more smoke or slightly 
less power- but not a huge difference.


The piston oil squirters are a good design feature, but they aren't 
necessary, and probably don't affect engine life much at all if the 
engine is tuned properly to keep EGTs down- they certainly wouldn't 
result in "very short" engine life.


The Volvo D24 is a less robust motor than these mercedes motors, but the 
design differences between the turbo and non-turbo models are similar- 
yet I've know a few people who added a turbo to the non-turbo motors and 
experienced no significant problems.


Tyler

Peter Frederick wrote:
While you can just stick a trubo onto a non-turbo engine, you must at 
least change the IP over as well, along with any necessary running gear.


The rear end ratio is indeed different, as well.

Big problem is that the block is not the same, most especially there 
are no oil jets to cool the piston tops.  Very short engine life will 
result.


However, the engine will exchange complete with no trouble at all.  
Swap the diff (and the speedo) and you have a turbo model.  If you 
don't swap the diff, you will get faster acceleration and worse milage..


Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Mitch Haley]

P. Prud'homme wrote:

Well, I did appreciate your effort when trying to answer to my panic attack about the 
lost key of the 1981 300SD I purchased for my son. Even thought the key was not lost but 
simply "missing" as Rusty wrote, I made a mistake by buying the car at an 
auction in the first place. I have bought at auctions before but not so bad. There is too 
much work to it that I can't do myself, including the first and second gear that slip...


That may very well have an easy cure in properly adjusting the vacuum controls.
The worn out stuff in the front end/steering has no magic cure.
Mitch.

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[MBZ] waiting for the Tatas

[tom tomscat]

Yes, Fred, but he was referring to those vehicles from India that go by 
that name.

 

Tom Schuch

1975 W115 300D

and a bunch of Bmws
 

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:13:46 -0400
From: Frederick W Moir 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...
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R.
So aren't we all!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
 
At 01:54 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>I'm waiting for the larger Tatas.
>--R
 


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[Peter Frederick]

While you can just stick a trubo onto a non-turbo engine, you must at  
least change the IP over as well, along with any necessary running gear.


The rear end ratio is indeed different, as well.

Big problem is that the block is not the same, most especially there  
are no oil jets to cool the piston tops.  Very short engine life will  
result.


However, the engine will exchange complete with no trouble at all.   
Swap the diff (and the speedo) and you have a turbo model.  If you  
don't swap the diff, you will get faster acceleration and worse milage..


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Clunkers?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

If the engine is good it would probably be worth 500

LarryT wrote:
I ran across an 87 300SDL (my dream car) at a local Recycler that 
specalizes in cars donated for the Kidney Foundation - so the vehicles 
they sell 'whole' tend to be rough.  This was no exception.  Large 
rust spot in the truck lid (!) but the trunk under the carpet was 
perfect!  The seats were torn and hard and the engine had not been 
well cared for although someone wrote "RUNS" on one window.  The paint 
was completely gone also.


All that for $750.  I'd like one in better condition than that one. ;-(

LarryT
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clunkers?


I'll put my 19 and 23-year-old MB's up against your new Lincolns, 
Fords, Chevys, Buicks, GMC's, Explorers, etc, any day.


That's how I felt about my 300SD but never said it either.  Even 
though it had double the miles of my SIL's Durango, it would make it 
across town, over the mountains or across the country with better 
reliability, a higher level of comfort and, IMO, way more style.  The 
SD would be the only one running at the top of the first mountain pass!


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, between MB Diesels

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Re: [MBZ] MBCA SEATTLE CAR 2009 SHOW

[Redghost]

Not enough 114/115 to be seen other than the Krankwagen

clay


On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:50 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:


I liked that red hot rod and the old red convertible.  Yum.

--R

relng...@aol.com wrote:
Here are some pictures I took on August 9th at the MB Club's 2009  
car show at the Nile Country Club north of Seattle.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/41820...@n07/show/

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon... Tata

[Bill R]

I got to tour the main Tata steel plant and truck factory back in the late
1980's.  I was there more for observing their work with local villages [they
had "adopted" 125 of them, teaching skills then buying products from them],
so the factory tours were a bit cursory, but it was interesting to see some
of the differences in regulations.  The truck frames/drive trains were made
in Jamshedpur, and the body and interior was attached in what was then
Bombay.  The driver would pull out of the factory, make a lap around the
track, then take off for Bombay [hundreds of miles away - think @ 200 miles
West of Calcutta to Mumbai] sitting on a wooden bench with no windshield.
Jamshedpur was the ultimate "company town", with the electric supply,
schools, hospitals, streets and everything else being part of the company.
"Greater Jamshedpur" was about 600,000 people, with a great many living
outside the well maintained city proper in surrounding slums.  Tata was a
well run company, at least back then.
BillR


At 01:54 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>I'm waiting for the larger Tatas.
>--R


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[WILTON]

MB Turboed engines are significantly different from non-turbo (naturally 
aspirated) engines.  For example, turboed engines have additional oiling 
ports that direct oil against underside of pistons for additional cooling, 
etc.  If you want a 123 with turbo engine, buy one that already has it as 
such from the factory, or, if you're parting out the SD, anyway, how 'bout 
putting the SD engine in the 123?  Will it fit easily?  I don't know, but 
I'll bet several on the list know very well about it.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "P. Prud'homme" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo


Well, I did appreciate your effort when trying to answer to my panic 
attack about the lost key of the 1981 300SD I purchased for my son. Even 
thought the key was not lost but simply "missing" as Rusty wrote, I made a 
mistake by buying the car at an auction in the first place. I have bought 
at auctions before but not so bad. There is too much work to it that I 
can't do myself, including the first and second gear that slip and too 
much (after all) in the front end.


In any case, my main question here is about the other Benz I already have, 
a 1981 W123 300D. In reference to specs and I need to do more research 
about this, I am wondering if I could transform it to a 300D Turbo. Isn't 
the main difference between the 300D and 300D Turbo or TD the header that 
facilitates the turbo, including the EGR valve? Is there any difference in 
gear ratio? Could I perhaps re-use the turbo from the 1981 300SD that I am 
probably going to part out? Would anyone have suggestions or has anyone 
has already done that?

Thank you.

--PT
81 300D
81 300SD (parting out?)




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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...

[Frederick W Moir]

R.
So aren't we all!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred

At 01:54 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:

I'm waiting for the larger Tatas.
--R



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[MBZ] 1981 300D to 300D Turbo

[P. Prud'homme]

Well, I did appreciate your effort when trying to answer to my panic attack 
about the lost key of the 1981 300SD I purchased for my son. Even thought the 
key was not lost but simply "missing" as Rusty wrote, I made a mistake by 
buying the car at an auction in the first place. I have bought at auctions 
before but not so bad. There is too much work to it that I can't do myself, 
including the first and second gear that slip and too much (after all) in the 
front end. 

In any case, my main question here is about the other Benz I already have, a 
1981 W123 300D. In reference to specs and I need to do more research about 
this, I am wondering if I could transform it to a 300D Turbo. Isn't the main 
difference between the 300D and 300D Turbo or TD the header that facilitates 
the turbo, including the EGR valve? Is there any difference in gear ratio? 
Could I perhaps re-use the turbo from the 1981 300SD that I am probably going 
to part out? Would anyone have suggestions or has anyone has already done that?
Thank you.

--PT
81 300D
81 300SD (parting out?)



  
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Re: [MBZ] Clunkers?

[OK Don]

Buy it, and start collecting parts - a trunk lid, interior parts from a non
runnig 560SEL, etc. ---

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:26 AM, LarryT  wrote:

> I ran across an 87 300SDL (my dream car) at a local Recycler that
> specalizes in cars donated for the Kidney Foundation - so the vehicles they
> sell 'whole' tend to be rough.  This was no exception.  Large rust spot in
> the truck lid (!) but the trunk under the carpet was perfect!  The seats
> were torn and hard and the engine had not been well cared for although
> someone wrote "RUNS" on one window.  The paint was completely gone also.
>
> All that for $750.  I'd like one in better condition than that one. ;-(
>
> LarryT
> .
>

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Re: [MBZ] electric cars - was Cash for clunkers hits home

[OK Don]

How many kJ in a 100 volt, 1 farad capacitor?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:26:34 -0400 Allan Streib 
> wrote:
>
> > Craig McCluskey  writes:
> >
> > > Jim's comment about how much momentum a moving freight train has is
> > > indicative of the size of flywheel you would need. It wouldn't fit on
> > > the train and couldn't fit through tunnels and across bridges.
> >
> > I'm imagining some kind of giant, box-car sized capacitors that would
> > absorb energy during braking and release it back to the motors during
> > acceleration.  Again, probably impractical or they'd be doing it.
>
> Well, there have been recent improvements in capacitors that allow them to
> store more energy, but I don't remember the energy storage density.
>
> To get an idea of how much energy one would need to store, consider a
> locomotive accelerating a train from stop to some speed. Say, for example,
> we have a 4000 horsepower locomotive that runs for 10 minutes to get the
> train moving. That's
>746 watt  60 seconds
>  4000 horsepower x -- x 10 minutes x 
>   horsepower   minute
>
>  = 1.79 x 10^9 watt-seconds = 1.79 x 10^9 Joules = 1.79 x 10^6 kiloJoules
>
>
> If the energy storage density is 10 kJ / cubic foot (not too far off, I
> think) the volume of the capacitor would be 100,000 cubic feet. If the
> energy storage density is 100 kJ / cubic foot, the volume of the capacitor
> would be only 10,000 cubic feet.
>
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> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...

[Rich Thomas]

I'm waiting for the larger Tatas.

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:

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[MBZ] Who Had the John Deere Tractor??

[LWB250]

My apologies - I blew away a bunch of e-mails, one of which was from the lucky 
soul who just scored the John Deere tractor with all accessories.

Drop me a note off-list again - my parts guy wants to know the model number and 
I don't recall what it was...

Thanks,

Dan


  

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Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Tyler, what would be your fee to provide an informal PPI and then
deliver to South Carolina?

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of tyler
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

Too bad it's not diesel.

Tyler

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
> http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31348
>
> Top of the line 1965 Mercedes 220SEb "Heckflosse" or tailfin model. 
> All original. Beige in and out. The car was originally bought by an 
> older lady in Germany. It was driven and maintained there for several
years.
> Imported to Santa Barbara in the late 60's where she mainly drove it 
> to the country club (evidenced by lots of memorabilia left for the 
> second owner). In 1990, she sold it to the second owner in Van Nuys 
> with only 54,000 miles on it. He drove it to Los Angeles for work most

> days for 10 years and held on to it for another five. He sold it to me

> two years ago with only 150,000 miles. It has a gasoline mechanically 
> injected 120bhp
> 6 cylinder that purrs like a kitten and pulls like a horse. Fun to 
> drive with great gas mileage. It has a 4 speed manual, "Kuhlmeister" 
> original air conditioning, Becker Europa AM/FM radio and a host of 
> other extra features. I still have documents with many years of 
> original maintenance records, owners manuals and more. One of the 
> first cars ever designed with safety crumple zones but you wouldn't 
> know it with it's cool classy styling. Will send more pics on request.
Best offer. 818-224-9065.
> djd...@gmail.com
>
>
> Not mine, no affiliation with seller beyond MBCA membership, etc. etc.
>
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> LCDR Max Dillon
> '87 300TD 313k miles
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I think the Pik Up (sic) will sell OK, the SUV will not. 

-Max

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Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...

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Re: [MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[tyler]

Too bad it's not diesel.

Tyler

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31348

Top of the line 1965 Mercedes 220SEb "Heckflosse" or tailfin model. All
original. Beige in and out. The car was originally bought by an older
lady in Germany. It was driven and maintained there for several years.
Imported to Santa Barbara in the late 60's where she mainly drove it to
the country club (evidenced by lots of memorabilia left for the second
owner). In 1990, she sold it to the second owner in Van Nuys with only
54,000 miles on it. He drove it to Los Angeles for work most days for 10
years and held on to it for another five. He sold it to me two years ago
with only 150,000 miles. It has a gasoline mechanically injected 120bhp
6 cylinder that purrs like a kitten and pulls like a horse. Fun to drive
with great gas mileage. It has a 4 speed manual, "Kuhlmeister" original
air conditioning, Becker Europa AM/FM radio and a host of other extra
features. I still have documents with many years of original maintenance
records, owners manuals and more. One of the first cars ever designed
with safety crumple zones but you wouldn't know it with it's cool classy
styling. Will send more pics on request. Best offer. 818-224-9065.
djd...@gmail.com 



Not mine, no affiliation with seller beyond MBCA membership, etc. etc.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 313k miles
Charleston SC


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[MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon...

[Curt Raymond]

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Re: [MBZ] trip to the dealer to view the S class going over a bridge

[Wonko the Sane]

The river is a much bigger target than the video suggests.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/New_River_Gorge_Bridge_West_Virginia_244750516.jpg/800px-New_River_Gorge_Bridge_West_Virginia_244750516.jpg

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> Jeez you wouldn't wanna get caught in them trees, perhaps bungee jumping
> might be the go.
>
> Hendrik
>

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Re: [MBZ] Clunkers?

[LarryT]

I ran across an 87 300SDL (my dream car) at a local Recycler that specalizes 
in cars donated for the Kidney Foundation - so the vehicles they sell 
'whole' tend to be rough.  This was no exception.  Large rust spot in the 
truck lid (!) but the trunk under the carpet was perfect!  The seats were 
torn and hard and the engine had not been well cared for although someone 
wrote "RUNS" on one window.  The paint was completely gone also.


All that for $750.  I'd like one in better condition than that one. ;-(

LarryT
.
OilAnalysis Time?
Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
www.youroil.net
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From: "kevin kraly" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clunkers?


I'll put my 19 and 23-year-old MB's up against your new Lincolns, Fords, 
Chevys, Buicks, GMC's, Explorers, etc, any day.


That's how I felt about my 300SD but never said it either.  Even though it 
had double the miles of my SIL's Durango, it would make it across town, 
over the mountains or across the country with better reliability, a higher 
level of comfort and, IMO, way more style.  The SD would be the only one 
running at the top of the first mountain pass!


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, between MB Diesels

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[MBZ] Car find of the day: '65 220SEb for $2800 in LA

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31348

Top of the line 1965 Mercedes 220SEb "Heckflosse" or tailfin model. All
original. Beige in and out. The car was originally bought by an older
lady in Germany. It was driven and maintained there for several years.
Imported to Santa Barbara in the late 60's where she mainly drove it to
the country club (evidenced by lots of memorabilia left for the second
owner). In 1990, she sold it to the second owner in Van Nuys with only
54,000 miles on it. He drove it to Los Angeles for work most days for 10
years and held on to it for another five. He sold it to me two years ago
with only 150,000 miles. It has a gasoline mechanically injected 120bhp
6 cylinder that purrs like a kitten and pulls like a horse. Fun to drive
with great gas mileage. It has a 4 speed manual, "Kuhlmeister" original
air conditioning, Becker Europa AM/FM radio and a host of other extra
features. I still have documents with many years of original maintenance
records, owners manuals and more. One of the first cars ever designed
with safety crumple zones but you wouldn't know it with it's cool classy
styling. Will send more pics on request. Best offer. 818-224-9065.
djd...@gmail.com 


Not mine, no affiliation with seller beyond MBCA membership, etc. etc.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 313k miles
Charleston SC


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[MBZ] ChowdahQ coming up

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Just a reminder that Saturday Sept 12th, we will have the 2nd annual New
England MB chowdah fest at Goddard park, Warwick, RI. .  We would really
welcome any fellow MB owners from outside of NE as well.

Let me know if you plan to attend and I will then send out a more detailed
note about directions, menu, details, etc.

Dwight

 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.

1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  

1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 

1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.

Wickford, RI

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