Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
I grew disgusted with the local place that sells B100 because the price was always 5 or 10 cents per gallon higher than #2, and my fuel economy dropped from around 26 mpg to around 24 mpg, so I'd take a double hit on my fuel costs. I haven't bought fuel there in a couple years now, maybe I should check if they've changed their policy. The only time I got a good deal was when #2 prices jumped too fast for the biodiesel price-changer and B100 was about 10 cents under, but even then I was paying too much in my opinion. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question hey Clay! while the below is often (and currently) true, there have been a number of periods here when commercially available BioD was less expensive than PetroD; but we already pay higher prices for PetroD in Calif. cheers! e Redghost wrote: Petro-diesel is always less expensive at retail. [snippage] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
The only supporting of the lists comes right out of my pocket. I sometimes save money when I order parts from Rusty as I am supposed to get a discount, so I guess that sort of help supports the lists. Gary Hurst wrote: really? in what manner? the real irony here is that i not only support these lists, i'm the founder of these lists. there would have never been a diesel list for you if richard and i didn't start one. there would never have been a rusty if richard and i didn't invent him. this disrespect many of you show me is a little much. normally i just kind of smile to myself and wonder how ignorant otherwise intelligent people can be. but sometimes i'm not as cheerful. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:58:12 -0500 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? He knows Rusty supports this list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: how much does this email cost?
Kaleb, Lately I've become interested in using a similar set up (website with archives, email lists) in order to support a couple of different personal interests, non-car related but church related. Can you provide a ball-part figure for the annual costs for the website and the email lists? Thanks, Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two The only supporting of the lists comes right out of my pocket. I sometimes save money when I order parts from Rusty as I am supposed to get a discount, so I guess that sort of help supports the lists. Gary Hurst wrote: really? in what manner? the real irony here is that i not only support these lists, i'm the founder of these lists. there would have never been a diesel list for you if richard and i didn't start one. there would never have been a rusty if richard and i didn't invent him. this disrespect many of you show me is a little much. normally i just kind of smile to myself and wonder how ignorant otherwise intelligent people can be. but sometimes i'm not as cheerful. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:58:12 -0500 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? He knows Rusty supports this list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
I'm not positive about the tool you refer to, but I suspect it is for pulling the pins for timing chain rails. Most of us po-boys use a stack of washers/sockets/assorted hardware and a bolt to thread in the end of the pin. I think it is a 6mm bolt. Having a tap to clean guk out of the threads of the pin is nice also, but not absolutely necessary. You can do pretty well with compressed air and penetrating oil. (the list favorite seems to be a mix of acetone and ATF) On 11/9/09 10:41 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: all of those motors seep some oil into the coolant. is it leaking coolant out the rear or oil? imagine the coolant hasn't been changed in over a decade. a little seepage would become noticeable, no? depending on the leak in the rear, i'd consider just changing out the hoses and flushing out the cooling system. replace it with the mercedes forumaltion, which is xerex G05. drive it around and see what happens. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Jim Arnottjr.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening folks, I am Jim Arnott, a long time VW owner (and list admin for a bunch of VW lists) and possibly a new used Mercedes owner. I live in NE Oregon and have been driving/repairing VWs most of my life. I have an opportunity to pick up a '92 190e 2.6 for not a lot of money. I have a single mom daughter that needs wheels and saving you all the long story, if we were to toss a shiny Merc her way it would please her to no end (and get her off my back!) The 190 that I'm looking at has oil in the coolant so it obviously need a head gasket. It's also leaking at the rear of the engine and I expect that that may well be a head gasket issue as well. Changing out the gasket doesn't look like too big of project, but I do have a question about one part of the process. The service manual 01.1101 I - 415/4 step 8 says Use impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin (74). Not having impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin, is there a work around? A substitute tool? Does the slide rail pin really need to be extracted to RR the head gasket? Second question: From what I've gathered through the Googles, head gasket failure seems to be typical on the 2.6 motor at around 100k miles. Is this a true statement and how likely is it that a simple replacement will cure its ills? There is no evidence that the motor has been overheated and the oil in the coolant is a relatively recent occurrence. The motor runs strong, has 3 bar oil pressure hot and the temp gauge sits right at 87 deg on a 20 mile drive at highway speeds. There is no cold pressurization of the cooling system so it appears that there is no compression leakage to the cooling system (A common VW problem.) Thank you in advance for you wisdom. Jim Arnott Union, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c387a4fd-2b12-483a-91f4-5098ef954...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Thanks for the replies Gary, et al; Drove it 20 or so miles. Parked it over a piece of cardboard. 30 minutes later I had 2 silver dollar sized spots of motor oil from the rear of the engine. There is no evidence of coolant leaks. The spots were about 6 apart perpendicular to the chassis under the rear of the motor. Almost like it was running down either side of the bell housing. Where does the 2.6 motor leak oil?If it were VW, I'd say rear main seal. (Additional info: 157k miles, auto trans.) The coolant reservoir has enough oil in it to get the milk of magnesia look floating on the surface. I could be wrong, but it looks fairly significant to me (But what do I know? That's why I'm here!) I guess I'll give the guy his grand and take a chance. Now about pulling the slide rail pin(s)? Thanks again. Jim Jim- I've BTDT with the 2.6 in my 300e. The oil leaks you mention are much larger than I'd seen before I did the head gasket on my car. Did you by chance look up higher on the motor? The most common area to see these leaks is on the pass. side towards the rear. If you see that much crud in the reservoir you should also take a careful look at the hoses for deterioration caused by oil. The guide rail pins were easy on my car- I bought a box of hardened M6 bolts from Grainger (p/x 4XY69) and planned to use the bolts with washers to extract the pins but the pins on my car came out easily. Would have been fine with normal grade bolts. One BIG caution though is my recollection that the 2.6 in the 190 is a bear to work on compared to the 300e. And in the 300e one still needs to be very careful as when pulling the head limited clearance in the rear can cause the head to shift forward and put just enough force on one of the rails to crack it. Replacement means pulling the front timing chest and ~ 8 hours time- don't ask me how I know! If asking for a grand I'd offer 500, max. You have much work ahead of you, and this assumes normal wear items like the rear subframe mounts and suspension links have been replaced and everything in the front suspension is 100%. Tony Wirtel '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
Correct, he should actually call the 1-800-741-5252 or go to www.buyMBparts.biz to get someone that really knows the Mercedes parts business not a front man. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Chances are that a head gasket will fix all. However, those engines will often run a long time with some seepage. You might just do as Gary suggested and change the coolant and let her drive it. It might seep a little but last for years without bothering the headgasket. The M103 engine is a good one, but is prone to headgasket seepage/leaking For parts call Rusty @ 800 741 5252. You will get good prices and great service. On 11/9/09 10:41 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: all of those motors seep some oil into the coolant. is it leaking coolant out the rear or oil? imagine the coolant hasn't been changed in over a decade. a little seepage would become noticeable, no? depending on the leak in the rear, i'd consider just changing out the hoses and flushing out the cooling system. replace it with the mercedes forumaltion, which is xerex G05. drive it around and see what happens. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Jim Arnottjr.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening folks, I am Jim Arnott, a long time VW owner (and list admin for a bunch of VW lists) and possibly a new used Mercedes owner. I live in NE Oregon and have been driving/repairing VWs most of my life. I have an opportunity to pick up a '92 190e 2.6 for not a lot of money. I have a single mom daughter that needs wheels and saving you all the long story, if we were to toss a shiny Merc her way it would please her to no end (and get her off my back!) The 190 that I'm looking at has oil in the coolant so it obviously need a head gasket. It's also leaking at the rear of the engine and I expect that that may well be a head gasket issue as well. Changing out the gasket doesn't look like too big of project, but I do have a question about one part of the process. The service manual 01.1101 I - 415/4 step 8 says Use impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin (74). Not having impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin, is there a work around? A substitute tool? Does the slide rail pin really need to be extracted to RR the head gasket? Second question: From what I've gathered through the Googles, head gasket failure seems to be typical on the 2.6 motor at around 100k miles. Is this a true statement and how likely is it that a simple replacement will cure its ills? There is no evidence that the motor has been overheated and the oil in the coolant is a relatively recent occurrence. The motor runs strong, has 3 bar oil pressure hot and the temp gauge sits right at 87 deg on a 20 mile drive at highway speeds. There is no cold pressurization of the cooling system so it appears that there is no compression leakage to the cooling system (A common VW problem.) Thank you in advance for you wisdom. Jim Arnott Union, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
1-800-741-5252 ask for Rusty. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two Dunno. What's his phone number? On 11/9/09 10:58 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: Chances are that a head gasket will fix all. However, those engines will often run a long time with some seepage. You might just do as Gary suggested and change the coolant and let her drive it. It might seep a little but last for years without bothering the headgasket. The M103 engine is a good one, but is prone to headgasket seepage/leaking For parts call Rusty @ 800 741 5252. You will get good prices and great service. On 11/9/09 10:41 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: all of those motors seep some oil into the coolant. is it leaking coolant out the rear or oil? imagine the coolant hasn't been changed in over a decade. a little seepage would become noticeable, no? depending on the leak in the rear, i'd consider just changing out the hoses and flushing out the cooling system. replace it with the mercedes forumaltion, which is xerex G05. drive it around and see what happens. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Jim Arnottjr.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening folks, I am Jim Arnott, a long time VW owner (and list admin for a bunch of VW lists) and possibly a new used Mercedes owner. I live in NE Oregon and have been driving/repairing VWs most of my life. I have an opportunity to pick up a '92 190e 2.6 for not a lot of money. I have a single mom daughter that needs wheels and saving you all the long story, if we were to toss a shiny Merc her way it would please her to no end (and get her off my back!) The 190 that I'm looking at has oil in the coolant so it obviously need a head gasket. It's also leaking at the rear of the engine and I expect that that may well be a head gasket issue as well. Changing out the gasket doesn't look like too big of project, but I do have a question about one part of the process. The service manual 01.1101 I - 415/4 step 8 says Use impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin (74). Not having impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin, is there a work around? A substitute tool? Does the slide rail pin really need to be extracted to RR the head gasket? Second question: From what I've gathered through the Googles, head gasket failure seems to be typical on the 2.6 motor at around 100k miles. Is this a true statement and how likely is it that a simple replacement will cure its ills? There is no evidence that the motor has been overheated and the oil in the coolant is a relatively recent occurrence. The motor runs strong, has 3 bar oil pressure hot and the temp gauge sits right at 87 deg on a 20 mile drive at highway speeds. There is no cold pressurization of the cooling system so it appears that there is no compression leakage to the cooling system (A common VW problem.) Thank you in advance for you wisdom. Jim Arnott Union, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
I use a Harbor Freight slide hammer that has a screw-on attachment on the end which happens to be just the right size to hold a bolt which threads into the pin. If that does not work or if the radiator is in the way I use the same bolt and a stack of washers with a nut to get it out. I've been meaning to put a slot in the washers so I can add more to the stack without unthreading the bolt. Maybe next time. McMaster has slotted washers, but they are insanely expensive. Don't use the threads in the pin to apply pressure (don't turn the bolt). Thread the bolt fully into the pin an use a nut to apply force. -Dave Walton On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Jim Arnott jr.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening folks, I am Jim Arnott, a long time VW owner (and list admin for a bunch of VW lists) and possibly a new used Mercedes owner. I live in NE Oregon and have been driving/repairing VWs most of my life. I have an opportunity to pick up a '92 190e 2.6 for not a lot of money. I have a single mom daughter that needs wheels and saving you all the long story, if we were to toss a shiny Merc her way it would please her to no end (and get her off my back!) The 190 that I'm looking at has oil in the coolant so it obviously need a head gasket. It's also leaking at the rear of the engine and I expect that that may well be a head gasket issue as well. Changing out the gasket doesn't look like too big of project, but I do have a question about one part of the process. The service manual 01.1101 I - 415/4 step 8 says Use impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin (74). Not having impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin, is there a work around? A substitute tool? Does the slide rail pin really need to be extracted to RR the head gasket? Second question: From what I've gathered through the Googles, head gasket failure seems to be typical on the 2.6 motor at around 100k miles. Is this a true statement and how likely is it that a simple replacement will cure its ills? There is no evidence that the motor has been overheated and the oil in the coolant is a relatively recent occurrence. The motor runs strong, has 3 bar oil pressure hot and the temp gauge sits right at 87 deg on a 20 mile drive at highway speeds. There is no cold pressurization of the cooling system so it appears that there is no compression leakage to the cooling system (A common VW problem.) Thank you in advance for you wisdom. Jim Arnott Union, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
This bickering is what made me avoid both of you for my last 2 orders. Either put the details of your spat out in the open so each of us can choose a side, or get over it. -Dave Walton On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Correct, he should actually call the 1-800-741-5252 or go to www.buyMBparts.biz to get someone that really knows the Mercedes parts business not a front man. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Chances are that a head gasket will fix all. However, those engines will often run a long time with some seepage. You might just do as Gary suggested and change the coolant and let her drive it. It might seep a little but last for years without bothering the headgasket. The M103 engine is a good one, but is prone to headgasket seepage/leaking For parts call Rusty @ 800 741 5252. You will get good prices and great service. On 11/9/09 10:41 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: all of those motors seep some oil into the coolant. is it leaking coolant out the rear or oil? imagine the coolant hasn't been changed in over a decade. a little seepage would become noticeable, no? depending on the leak in the rear, i'd consider just changing out the hoses and flushing out the cooling system. replace it with the mercedes forumaltion, which is xerex G05. drive it around and see what happens. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Jim Arnottjr.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening folks, I am Jim Arnott, a long time VW owner (and list admin for a bunch of VW lists) and possibly a new used Mercedes owner. I live in NE Oregon and have been driving/repairing VWs most of my life. I have an opportunity to pick up a '92 190e 2.6 for not a lot of money. I have a single mom daughter that needs wheels and saving you all the long story, if we were to toss a shiny Merc her way it would please her to no end (and get her off my back!) The 190 that I'm looking at has oil in the coolant so it obviously need a head gasket. It's also leaking at the rear of the engine and I expect that that may well be a head gasket issue as well. Changing out the gasket doesn't look like too big of project, but I do have a question about one part of the process. The service manual 01.1101 I - 415/4 step 8 says Use impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin (74). Not having impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin, is there a work around? A substitute tool? Does the slide rail pin really need to be extracted to RR the head gasket? Second question: From what I've gathered through the Googles, head gasket failure seems to be typical on the 2.6 motor at around 100k miles. Is this a true statement and how likely is it that a simple replacement will cure its ills? There is no evidence that the motor has been overheated and the oil in the coolant is a relatively recent occurrence. The motor runs strong, has 3 bar oil pressure hot and the temp gauge sits right at 87 deg on a 20 mile drive at highway speeds. There is no cold pressurization of the cooling system so it appears that there is no compression leakage to the cooling system (A common VW problem.) Thank you in advance for you wisdom. Jim Arnott Union, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
dave walton wrote: Don't use the threads in the pin to apply pressure (don't turn the bolt). Thread the bolt fully into the pin an use a nut to apply force. -Dave Walton One BIG caution though is my recollection that the 2.6 in the 190 is a bear to work on compared to the 300e. And in the 300e one still needs to be very careful as when pulling the head limited clearance in the rear can cause the head to shift forward and put just enough force on one of the rails to crack it. Replacement means pulling the front timing chest and ~ 8 hours time- don't ask me how I know! If asking for a grand I'd offer 500, max. You have much work ahead of you, and this assumes normal wear items like the rear subframe mounts and suspension links have been replaced and everything in the front suspension is 100%. I'd listen to Dave and Tony. I've never even driven a 2.6, just have a 2.3 16v and some diesels. In case you haven't figured it out, we've got two competing parts suppliers on this list, Rusty Cullens at buymbparts.biz and Gary (Jabba) Hurst at buymbparts.com Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
Let's also remember who pulled you from the gutter, gave you a job when you hadn't had one in years, which allowed you to buy all the guns, cameras, watches and computers that you have and paid you almost twice as much as me the last 3 years. These figures are well recorded in QuickBooks, trust me. Best to not start a war here, you'll probably not fair so well. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two really? in what manner? the real irony here is that i not only support these lists, i'm the founder of these lists. there would have never been a diesel list for you if richard and i didn't start one. there would never have been a rusty if richard and i didn't invent him. this disrespect many of you show me is a little much. normally i just kind of smile to myself and wonder how ignorant otherwise intelligent people can be. but sometimes i'm not as cheerful. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:58:12 -0500 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? He knows Rusty supports this list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim
I think there is a screw on the end of those long side pieces. Take a look -- will be a single screw where it is covered by another body panel when the door or trunk is closed. Might be one on both ends. The rest of the piece is held on by plastic pins stuck through littlre red bushings. Replace all of those, by the way. A thin putty knife works well to remove the trim, or a thin plastic blade. Do not use anything sharp, you will cut the rubber gasket underneath, and they are hard to get now. Gaskets for front and rear windows are removed as follows: Pull trim off botton edge (one screw on each end, pull off barbed clips with hooked puller. The trim fits into the gasket. Disconnect rear window heater wires in the trunk. Once the trim is off, from the inside, pry down and out at the upper corners of the lip on each side. Gasket will pop to the oustide, releasing window. On the rear, make SURE the wires come out of the holes in the rear cowling freely. If some idiot glued the gasket in, you will probably have to find a hooked knife and cut it out. Be prepared to fix the flange, it's likely rusty with all the paint rubbed off if the gaskets are cracked. Make sure the flange is perfectly clean and SMOOTH before installing new gasket. Feather-fill and paint if it's rough, else it WILL leak. To go back in (with new gasket). Clean window -- must be prefectly clean in the area the gasket seats. Install gasket on window, then insert trim into gasket (the part that goes around except at the base). Wrap a 1/8 cord around the slot that goes over the flange on the body, starting and ending in the center of the bottom edge. Lift window into place, setting the lower edge over the flange as much as possible. Have a helper press window firmly against the flange, properly centered (this is the gard part!) and use the cord to flip the lip over the flange. Make sure the wires are in place for the rear one. Pull the cord out slowly and carefully. Watch the top corners, as this is where you usually have problems. Silicone spray lube helps quite a bit, too. With luck it will pop right in on the first wrap, but if not you have the second. A blunt, hooked screwdriver is also useful to help at the top corner. Peter Get new little plugs for the wires -Original Message- From: TE ban...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Nov 10, 2009 12:16 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim Thanks for the response, Peter. I was unaware that the side trim had a screw on the inside of the door, but removing the door panels is on my to do list, so it shouldn't be a problem. The side trim on the trunk is easily accessible from inside, but I'm not sure about the side trim on the front fenders. My main concern lies with the wind diverter on both sides of the windshield, as well as with the trim that wraps around the rear of the car, just under the trunk. Since the front and rear windshield gaskets are badly cracked, I was hoping to remove them also before taking to the paint shop, that way the metal under the gasket gets a nice coat. Any advice? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim You will need to remove the screw on each corner (inside the door frame if I remember correctly), and then make a hooked sheet metal puller to pull the trim off the barbed clips. Be careful not to bend it, it's aluminum. The trim strip that fits into the gasket does not come off, it stays in the gasket until you pull the glass. I believe the wind diverter along the sides pulls off too after you remove a screw, but I'll have to check to make sure, as my 22D didn't have it -- it's on my brother's 75 300D. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
On second thought, this might be fun to watch :-) -Dave Walton On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Let's also remember who pulled you from the gutter, gave you a job when you hadn't had one in years, which allowed you to buy all the guns, cameras, watches and computers that you have and paid you almost twice as much as me the last 3 years. These figures are well recorded in QuickBooks, trust me. Best to not start a war here, you'll probably not fair so well. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two really? in what manner? the real irony here is that i not only support these lists, i'm the founder of these lists. there would have never been a diesel list for you if richard and i didn't start one. there would never have been a rusty if richard and i didn't invent him. this disrespect many of you show me is a little much. normally i just kind of smile to myself and wonder how ignorant otherwise intelligent people can be. but sometimes i'm not as cheerful. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:58:12 -0500 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? He knows Rusty supports this list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
There will be nothing to watch, I am done. I apologize to all on this list for bothering you with my personal issues. I will only post when I can offer some help. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two On second thought, this might be fun to watch :-) -Dave Walton On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Let's also remember who pulled you from the gutter, gave you a job when you hadn't had one in years, which allowed you to buy all the guns, cameras, watches and computers that you have and paid you almost twice as much as me the last 3 years. These figures are well recorded in QuickBooks, trust me. Best to not start a war here, you'll probably not fair so well. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two really? in what manner? the real irony here is that i not only support these lists, i'm the founder of these lists. there would have never been a diesel list for you if richard and i didn't start one. there would never have been a rusty if richard and i didn't invent him. this disrespect many of you show me is a little much. normally i just kind of smile to myself and wonder how ignorant otherwise intelligent people can be. but sometimes i'm not as cheerful. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:58:12 -0500 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? He knows Rusty supports this list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: DeviceLINE - Cars and Code, Serious SSL Flaw, Hackable Factories, Mocana Panelist at Conference
Cars now can be shut down remotely by Onstar (and isn't there another service like that?), data can be read remotely or after some incident from the computer(s), an EMP generator can fry the systems. I wonder if some bright hacker could access a car remotely (a la Onstar) and cause mayhem while it is moving? --R Craig McCluskey wrote: Some things you don't usually consider with newer cars ... Craig Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:14:36 -0700 To: diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Fw: DeviceLINE - Cars and Code, Serious SSL Flaw, Hackable Factories, Mocana Panelist at Conference 4 Doors, Dual Airbags, 100 Million Lines of Code Today's automobiles have some new features that most consumers don't hear much about: more than 100 million lines of code running on dozens of CPUs, with several different bluetooth, cellular or satellite wireless access points and little or no security. Are our cars going to be the next zombie recruits into Chinese spam botnets? http://mocana.com/blog/2009/11/08/4-doors-dual-airbags-100-million-lines-of-code/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: DeviceLINE - Cars and Code, Serious SSL Flaw, Hackable Factories, Mocana Panelist at Conference
Rich Thomas wrote: Cars now can be shut down remotely by Onstar (and isn't there another service like that?), data can be read remotely or after some incident from the computer(s), an EMP generator can fry the systems. I wonder if some bright hacker could access a car remotely (a la Onstar) and cause mayhem while it is moving? OnStar can unlock your doors and start your engine remotely too. How about the auto theft implications of that? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
Hi Jim Welcome to the best MB list on the internet. We have many very smart folks here and you will get good answers. With your VW experience, I expect you will be one of those providing answers at this site after some MB ownership. Including me, there are many VW lovers on this list and if I can ever buy my VW Rabbit diesel pickup back, I'll need answers in that area. BTW, good choice of cars for your daughter. Harry - Original Message - From: Jim Arnott jr.arn...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:01 PM Subject: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two Good evening folks, I am Jim Arnott, a long time VW owner (and list admin for a bunch of VW lists) and possibly a new used Mercedes owner. I live in NE Oregon and have been driving/repairing VWs most of my life. I have an opportunity to pick up a '92 190e 2.6 for not a lot of money. I have a single mom daughter that needs wheels and saving you all the long story, if we were to toss a shiny Merc her way it would please her to no end (and get her off my back!) The 190 that I'm looking at has oil in the coolant so it obviously need a head gasket. It's also leaking at the rear of the engine and I expect that that may well be a head gasket issue as well. Changing out the gasket doesn't look like too big of project, but I do have a question about one part of the process. The service manual 01.1101 I - 415/4 step 8 says Use impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin (74). Not having impact extractor 116 589 20 33 00 to withdraw slide rail pin, is there a work around? A substitute tool? Does the slide rail pin really need to be extracted to RR the head gasket? Second question: From what I've gathered through the Googles, head gasket failure seems to be typical on the 2.6 motor at around 100k miles. Is this a true statement and how likely is it that a simple replacement will cure its ills? There is no evidence that the motor has been overheated and the oil in the coolant is a relatively recent occurrence. The motor runs strong, has 3 bar oil pressure hot and the temp gauge sits right at 87 deg on a 20 mile drive at highway speeds. There is no cold pressurization of the cooling system so it appears that there is no compression leakage to the cooling system (A common VW problem.) Thank you in advance for you wisdom. Jim Arnott Union, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two -- my part is bigger
Wow, a new guy comes here to ask a question about his car, and in like 5 messages the cat fight starts about whose parts is bigger, and now we have answers to the new guy's question and bickering between two parts guys going on. I'm sure that gives him confidence about dealing with either of you. Y'all need to give it a rest, or start a my part is bigger thread and have the cat fight there. It might be fun to watch, but not for the new guy's oil leak problem. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two -- my part is bigger
I agree and sent an apology. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two -- my part is bigger Wow, a new guy comes here to ask a question about his car, and in like 5 messages the cat fight starts about whose parts is bigger, and now we have answers to the new guy's question and bickering between two parts guys going on. I'm sure that gives him confidence about dealing with either of you. Y'all need to give it a rest, or start a my part is bigger thread and have the cat fight there. It might be fun to watch, but not for the new guy's oil leak problem. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two -- my part is bigger
Regarding pulling the pins.. I have a coupla tools in my chest, home made.. a piece of allthread, 1/4-20 and about a foot long, with 6 and 8 mm bolts welded on each end. A nut and a coupla fender washers complete the tool. I get whatever is heavy and has a hole in it, usually a piece of scrap steel from the bin, and use it as a slide hammer. Run the nut to the end I need it on. Pretty compact, and it has always worked for me. Very similiar in nature to other solutions here, and it takes so little room in the toolbox that you can keep it around forever. Welcome to the group. Richard Mercedesless in Paradise. --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two -- my part is bigger To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:22 PM Wow, a new guy comes here to ask a question about his car, and in like 5 messages the cat fight starts about whose parts is bigger, and now we have answers to the new guy's question and bickering between two parts guys going on. I'm sure that gives him confidence about dealing with either of you. Y'all need to give it a rest, or start a my part is bigger thread and have the cat fight there. It might be fun to watch, but not for the new guy's oil leak problem. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Rocking Rolling
Not sure. There are 3 listed - one for $35 or so, another for $75 or so and another for $80 or so. I bought the one for $70 something - don't recall the brand at the moment - wait - a brain cell farted - it Febi/Bilstein - I remember the conversation we had recently about the Bilstein in the MMs maker is not the same as the shock absorber people. Everytime I drive it now I think, so, this is what a new MB diesel is like? then I smile. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Rocking Rolling Did you get OE, or OEM? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:05 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] W124 Rocking Rolling Hi Gang, I wrote a week or so ago about replacing my motor mounts of my '91 300D W124. I am still *amazed* at how quiet it is not. It evidently needed new MM's since before I bought this car nearly 3 years ago. When I bought it I thought it was reasonably quiet - my only comparison being our 78 240D. Compared to the 240D it was pretty quiet. But once I installed the MM's it became extremely quiet and smooth. I can't tell when it started (and when to release the key) if the radio is on - and we never have the radio turned up very loud. I'm just so pleased with the difference the MMs have made I wanted to tell everyone about changing the MMs. We bought the car with only 99k miles on it so the MMs must start collapsing before that. I was wondering if anyone knows how long they usually last? I would have though they would last longer than 100K. I just cannot get over how incredibly quiet and smooth it is. ;-) Now I know what a new W124 300D was like. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop
OVP ordered from Rusty yesterday 9 AM; arrived today 1245 PM. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop 'Ordered OVP this morning. 'Drove car a few minutes about 30 min ago; tach, AC, ABS, idle all normal; pulled into yard, parked and shut down; restarted engine; tach, AC, ABS inop. and idle slow again. They often respond to removal, cleaning the pins, and replacement. The fuse on top, too. Only thing in most of 'em is a big zener diode and a relay, not much in the way of solder joints to go wrong. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
while i can understand not being happy about it costing more and offering lower fuel economy, those aren't amongst the reasons we use it; to date, i don't know of a better choice for a renewable fuel that we don't have to send our kids off to a foreign country to protect the source of. cheers! e Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I grew disgusted with the local place that sells B100 because the price was always 5 or 10 cents per gallon higher than #2, and my fuel economy dropped from around 26 mpg to around 24 mpg, so I'd take a double hit on my fuel costs. I haven't bought fuel there in a couple years now, maybe I should check if they've changed their policy. The only time I got a good deal was when #2 prices jumped too fast for the biodiesel price-changer and B100 was about 10 cents under, but even then I was paying too much in my opinion. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question hey Clay! while the below is often (and currently) true, there have been a number of periods here when commercially available BioD was less expensive than PetroD; but we already pay higher prices for PetroD in Calif. cheers! e Redghost wrote: Petro-diesel is always less expensive at retail. [snippage] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
I think that natural gas has the potential to be a near-term game changer in the fossil fuels situation. Recent advances in extraction have vastly increased the proven reserves in America to levels that translate into decades of supply if used to replace about half our current oil use (i.e. all the imports), and I think that the cost is on the magnitude of equivalent to a dollar per gallon of gasoline. If we had a real national energy plan, I'd like to see all the subsidies for ethanol diverted to building natural gas fueling stations and rebates for natural gas conversion kits for cars, and the other infrastructure needed to make it readily available to drivers. A smart capitalist could vertically integrate the whole ball of wax (from the natural gas wells to the pipelines and fueling stations to the conversion kits for cars/trucks to the lobbyists needed to buy the right votes in congress) and make a fortune for about 10-15 years using just the gas available in this country. Natural gas doesn't have the energy density of gasoline or diesel, but it's far better than the range for electrics while still reasonably 'green'. Biggest advantage over electrics is that any car can be converted to use it for about $6k (Honda makes a model they only sell in AZ I believe). If you have a gas pipeline to your house for heating and cooking, you could also use that to fuel your car at home if you get the right equipment. Why doesn't the federal government offer rebates for those things? Why doesn't government motors start purpose-building cars/trucks and create a monopoly? They could block all other makers from offering such vehicles for a couple years and get GM off life support then cut it loose and open the doors for all comers. Sounds like a win-win to me. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question while i can understand not being happy about it costing more and offering lower fuel economy, those aren't amongst the reasons we use it; to date, i don't know of a better choice for a renewable fuel that we don't have to send our kids off to a foreign country to protect the source of. cheers! e Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I grew disgusted with the local place that sells B100 because the price was always 5 or 10 cents per gallon higher than #2, and my fuel economy dropped from around 26 mpg to around 24 mpg, so I'd take a double hit on my fuel costs. I haven't bought fuel there in a couple years now, maybe I should check if they've changed their policy. The only time I got a good deal was when #2 prices jumped too fast for the biodiesel price-changer and B100 was about 10 cents under, but even then I was paying too much in my opinion. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question hey Clay! while the below is often (and currently) true, there have been a number of periods here when commercially available BioD was less expensive than PetroD; but we already pay higher prices for PetroD in Calif. cheers! e Redghost wrote: Petro-diesel is always less expensive at retail. [snippage] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
The upscale almost development that I live in was built 20 years ago. Natural
gas is about 1/4 mile away from our boundary. Fuel oil interest paid BIG
susidies to the developer to keep the gas line out.
I currently use propane to cook, dry cloths and run a space heater {Ventless
fireplace} in the family room.
My major cost savings {Connecticut} was the addition of a heat pump 2 years
ago. It cost us about $600/year to run it. For that we get about 90% of the A/C
we need and reduced our oil usage by about 75%.
YMMV
--
Peter Arnold
Windsor, CT
- Original Message -
From: Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:06:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
I think that natural gas has the potential to be a near-term game
changer in the fossil fuels situation. Recent advances in extraction
have vastly increased the proven reserves in America to levels that
translate into decades of supply if used to replace about half our
current oil use (i.e. all the imports), and I think that the cost is on
the magnitude of equivalent to a dollar per gallon of gasoline. If we
had a real national energy plan, I'd like to see all the subsidies for
ethanol diverted to building natural gas fueling stations and rebates
for natural gas conversion kits for cars, and the other infrastructure
needed to make it readily available to drivers.
A smart capitalist could vertically integrate the whole ball of wax
(from the natural gas wells to the pipelines and fueling stations to the
conversion kits for cars/trucks to the lobbyists needed to buy the right
votes in congress) and make a fortune for about 10-15 years using just
the gas available in this country.
Natural gas doesn't have the energy density of gasoline or diesel, but
it's far better than the range for electrics while still reasonably
'green'. Biggest advantage over electrics is that any car can be
converted to use it for about $6k (Honda makes a model they only sell in
AZ I believe). If you have a gas pipeline to your house for heating and
cooking, you could also use that to fuel your car at home if you get the
right equipment. Why doesn't the federal government offer rebates for
those things? Why doesn't government motors start purpose-building
cars/trucks and create a monopoly? They could block all other makers
from offering such vehicles for a couple years and get GM off life
support then cut it loose and open the doors for all comers. Sounds
like a win-win to me.
Max
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
while i can understand not being happy about it costing more and
offering lower fuel economy, those aren't amongst the reasons we use it;
to date, i don't know of a better choice for a renewable fuel that we
don't have to send our kids off to a foreign country to protect the
source of.
cheers!
e
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
I grew disgusted with the local place that sells B100 because the
price was always 5 or 10 cents per gallon higher than #2, and my fuel
economy dropped from around 26 mpg to around 24 mpg, so I'd take a
double hit on my fuel costs. I haven't bought fuel there in a couple
years now, maybe I should check if they've changed their policy. The
only time I got a good deal was when #2 prices jumped too fast for the
biodiesel price-changer and B100 was about 10 cents under, but even
then I was paying too much in my opinion.
Max
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
hey Clay!
while the below is often (and currently) true, there have been a
number of periods here when commercially available BioD was less
expensive than PetroD; but we already pay higher prices for PetroD in
Calif.
cheers!
e
Redghost wrote:
Petro-diesel is always less expensive at retail.
[snippage]
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Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop
'Delayed replacing the OVP while watching the Fort Hood Memorial; 'just started out to do it and found it raining outside; 'disappointed, but 'don't need to do it in the rain. 'Sure miss the enclosed garage at the house I designed and built near here 30 years ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop OVP ordered from Rusty yesterday 9 AM; arrived today 1245 PM. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop 'Ordered OVP this morning. 'Drove car a few minutes about 30 min ago; tach, AC, ABS, idle all normal; pulled into yard, parked and shut down; restarted engine; tach, AC, ABS inop. and idle slow again. They often respond to removal, cleaning the pins, and replacement. The fuse on top, too. Only thing in most of 'em is a big zener diode and a relay, not much in the way of solder joints to go wrong. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Onstar
...OnStar can unlock your doors and start your engine remotely too... Stop, not start. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Onstar/TeleAid
Cars now can be shut down remotely by Onstar (and isn't there another service like that?), data can be read remotely or after some incident from the computer(s), an EMP generator can fry the systems. I wonder if some bright hacker could access a car remotely (a la Onstar) and cause mayhem while it is moving? OnStar is the same service (at a different price) that MB calls TeleAid and is managed by the same company in Texas. MB has offered it since at least 2001 and my 2001 C320 had it as standard. When I was ordering my 2008 C300 I did not specify it because now they want about $600 for it, plus after the first year there is an annual fee of about $275 with zero free talk time and I didn't think it was worth it. And, it doesn't work unless the car has cell phone reception since the contact is by a one-number built in cell phone. The car is then located by it's GPS and data can be read and a few commands can be sent including door unlock and engine shutdown. Plus, unannounced listening by cell mike in case of a reported theft of the car which requires the owner's PIN. If some bright hacker has satellite uplink access, why waste time with a car when he could blow up China? Is Walmart selling EMP generators? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Onstar/TeleAid
EMP generators are not hard to make (not that I would have direct knowledge of that). I believe the popos have them too, to stop OJ when he is on a low-speed chase. --R relng...@aol.com wrote: If some bright hacker has satellite uplink access, why waste time with a car when he could blow up China? Is Walmart selling EMP generators? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim
Concerning the gaskets around the rear and front windshields - in they are badly cracked I suggest replacing both gaskets. Most paint shops and glass replacement companies will work together on this. Mike On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:16 AM, TE wrote: Thanks for the response, Peter. I was unaware that the side trim had a screw on the inside of the door, but removing the door panels is on my to do list, so it shouldn't be a problem. The side trim on the trunk is easily accessible from inside, but I'm not sure about the side trim on the front fenders. My main concern lies with the wind diverter on both sides of the windshield, as well as with the trim that wraps around the rear of the car, just under the trunk. Since the front and rear windshield gaskets are badly cracked, I was hoping to remove them also before taking to the paint shop, that way the metal under the gasket gets a nice coat. Any advice? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim You will need to remove the screw on each corner (inside the door frame if I remember correctly), and then make a hooked sheet metal puller to pull the trim off the barbed clips. Be careful not to bend it, it's aluminum. The trim strip that fits into the gasket does not come off, it stays in the gasket until you pull the glass. I believe the wind diverter along the sides pulls off too after you remove a screw, but I'll have to check to make sure, as my 22D didn't have it -- it's on my brother's 75 300D. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening it has been!)
Not sure what this gibberish is, but looks like buymbparts.com is now neither Rusty's nor Gary's site? Someone else sure snapped it up in a hurry. Did you sell the domain? Allan Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com writes: - Having trouble viewing this email? Click here http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001T6qkBtjSWrOiy2JDrnx4yl0mmqcYKasZ2HQ4Fxb7IpVpUC6vN30woFMin6ok4lQcnFgEs16uaim0vAtIrq7NMCiAuP1lDYz4pyJ3n44aOxjNnoHKU6yLIed3g7Def40iE9Xw3nmfPNqHjl6cvK-l7WI66d4FJtgsqyRAq2aaaXna1SaV-LGBHHeK9eC_u8tsHN6yjf3ScgY%3D You're receiving this email because of your relationship with BuyMBparts , Inc.. Please confirmhttp://visitor.constantcontact.com/c.jsp?t=1102818548686.683.6657119111.2m=1102433543736wl=Fyour continued interest in receiving email from us. You may unsubscribehttp://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?v=001BdwJNcIEVTjwIMO5dDJhyGeENiFloEPwawscVH_zMJnlDnRbW7tPBA%3D%3Dp=unif you no longer wish to receive our emails. BuyMBparts.COM Events*Join Our Mailing List!http://visitor.constantcontact.com/email.jsp?m=1102433543736 * Dear Customer, Please be aware that I, Gary Hurst, am no longer affiliated with buyMBparts.com * * Please remember that www.BuyEUROparts.comhttp://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102818548686s=683e=001FmWGVHhgatiXuqNqL6AA1ocfI2rXzD79NhS8DGZhj6UPQqBncVeuSFNqXLtWuZyFu07XOo_4Txuv1nJPHgK-EUqGcRz2x93qqrRLVG9fFCV5CSzUNGOICw== and www.BuyASIANparts.comhttp://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102818548686s=683e=001FmWGVHhgatj6nyC86D_KuKXJ3W9V1kUAI3lVvV9h379KknGGPsSTrLmSQlf-Ixk7h8uugokIm5yhBhDQVcDD6Jp-TLT0BjWgMUFsa_UXFerAlntd8B72sw==are both up and running right now. Gary Hurst, Owner and EL Grand Luchadore BuyMBparts, er, buyEUROparts.com jabbahur...@gmail.com buymbpa...@gmail.com I gotta write down my phone number! *Event Name* * **The BuyMBparts.com new website has arrived. It is at ** www.buyEUROparts.com*http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102818548686s=683e=001FmWGVHhgatis9faI5GDtiEATq2QoqNFJ6-tmVsECx5QJc5YFSyLIf_I0ttI4U1ICjlsfgZyW1w0acHALCbEK9khZ5SL8e_5y_Wx6aNWrJf2OdGPOJdB-WQ== * we are no longer affiliated with our old website buyMBparts.com. Please make a note of our new web address and email info. Thank you for your patronage in the past and we hope the future as well. Most orders delivered in 1 or 2 business days. All orders reviewed for accuracy as to fitment of your car and optimal brand selection! * * * * * *Email Gary @ **jabbahu...@gmail.com* buymbpa...@gmail.com* or Gary @ **jabbahur...@gmail.com* buymbparts...@gmail.com * * Forward emailhttp://ui.constantcontact.com/sa/fwtf.jsp?m=1102433543736ea=jabbahursty%40gmail.coma=1102818548686 Email Marketing http://www.constantcontact.com/index.jsp?cc=TEM_EvInv_207by http://www.constantcontact.com/index.jsp?cc=TEM_EvInv_207 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening it hasbeen!)
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Not sure what this gibberish is, but looks like buymbparts.com is now neither Rusty's nor Gary's site? Someone else sure snapped it up in a hurry. I second that. WTF is this? BuyMBparts has been delivering quality service and confidence to customers from its Phoenix based headquarters for over a decade. Headquarters are located at 800 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis, MN 55402. http://www.buymbparts.com/about.html What a clusterfuck this became in a hurry. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening it hasbeen!)
is it phoenix or Minneapolis? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Not sure what this gibberish is, but looks like buymbparts.com is now neither Rusty's nor Gary's site? Someone else sure snapped it up in a hurry. I second that. WTF is this? BuyMBparts has been delivering quality service and confidence to customers from its Phoenix based headquarters for over a decade. Headquarters are located at 800 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis, MN 55402. http://www.buymbparts.com/about.html What a clusterfuck this became in a hurry. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening ithasbeen!)
From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com What a clusterf*ck this became in a hurry. Sincere apologies. I thought I was replying to Banned. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening it hasbeen!)
Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com writes: is it phoenix or Minneapolis? Who's the chick in the Live Chat box? Looks like a $1.99/minute deal. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening ithasbeen!)
yeah, i'd buy my parts at www.BuyEUROparts.com too! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com What a clusterf*ck this became in a hurry. Sincere apologies. I thought I was replying to Banned. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening it hasbeen!)
sorry, i'm not affiliated with that website, so i woudln't know On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com writes: is it phoenix or Minneapolis? Who's the chick in the Live Chat box? Looks like a $1.99/minute deal. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Head Gasket Repair section 606.910 engine
I will be removig the head on my 1995 E300 soon and am need of the repair section. Can anyone help with the pdf of this section. I have found manuals at books4cars.com that may have what I need book 95_S_2609_093. Rgards, Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
Up in Seattle we have yet to see parity with petro. The transport cost is killing that and no local pumps are able to sell it cheap. We almost got to parity five years ago, but then the petro price rose and the tax rebate on mixture was unable to reduce bioD price clay On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:27 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hey Clay! while the below is often (and currently) true, there have been a number of periods here when commercially available BioD was less expensive than PetroD; but we already pay higher prices for PetroD in Calif. cheers! e Redghost wrote: Petro-diesel is always less expensive at retail. [snippage] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening it hasbeen!)
Gary Hurst wrote: is it phoenix or Minneapolis? Whois now says Kasa Capital in MSP. Strangely, http://buymbparts.com/ gives me the old site from the Canadian American Friendship Alliance; http://www.buymbparts.com/ takes me to these new interlopers. So I presume you sold the domain? Weak. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] B-5 Diesel Question
It was a while ago, around 2004 that we ran B100 in the cars from a small distributor. Not sure who made his stuff, but SWMBA forbid any B mix above 50%. When that happened issues went away, and the new parts have not failed. clay On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:31 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: Clay, jeeze,... if BioD was getting to where it could eat valve seal covers and engine mounts, i'm not sure you can blame the BioD; it sounds like you were *starting* with catastrophes... ;-) but seriously, considering how long i've been able to run pretty much straight BioD without any issues in my '85, if you had lines getting chewed, i'd be questioning the processing methods of whoever was supplying your BioD. cheers! e Redghost wrote: I did have issue with B100 in that it ate the lines twice in both Gump and the E300D, ate the valve seal cover, dissolved engine mounts, and various other catastrophes. The '95 had original fuel line and replacements were supposedly Viton, but turned out not to be. Once I got the real viton lines, the issue of melting went away. clay On Nov 8, 2009, at 5:05 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: B5 isn't strong enough to give you any of the downsides of BioD, but is enough to replace the lubricity in the fuel that was lost in the switch to ULSD. i seriously doubt that it's likely to be strong enough to do much of anything in the way of cleaning out any built-up gunk in the fuel lines. by the time your '92 was made, many companies were already switching to fuel hoses that are supposed to be BioDiesel- compatible; odds are yours may be BioD-compatible already, but if not i wouldn't worry about it anyway. in my own personal experience and after watching the thousands of cars in the Biofuel Oasis fleet here in Berkeley, i think the concerns of BioDiesel use are heavily overblown in the press (and online forums). when i switched to B100 in our '85 (at ~121K miles), i changed the fuel filters at each of the next couple of oil changes, though there was never any indication that there was any need to. likewise, i swore i'd keep an eye on the fuel lines (like i would anyway with any 20-year-old car) and change them when i saw any indication of any need to; it's been 6 years and 65,000 miles so far, and i'm still waiting to see any indication of any impending failure. bottom line? do it and forget about it; you'll probably never notice any difference except that it might idle a tiny bit smoother, and you'll have an extra 45¢/gallon in your pocket. cheers! e waltlas...@juno.com wrote: There is a local station here selling B-5 Diesel for 45 cents less a gal. than pure Diesel. My question is: Can I use that safely in my 1992 W140 300SD/S350 Diesel, with normal Diesel hoses, etc? Walt Lasher Seattle 1992 S350 Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful eveningit hasbeen!)
From: Thomas Savage tesav...@gmail.com So I presume you sold the domain? Weak. Gave it up. Free. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: DeviceLINE - Cars and Code, Serious SSL Flaw, Hackable Factories, Mocana Panelist at Conference
Not going to happen with Gump. She is the ultimate armageddon wagon. Going to be able to outrun johnny law when it all goes south. Her trunk is big enough to be able to haul off the obese dead so I can render them for fuel. No electronics to fry, except the radio, and not even I can take control of Gump when she gets going clay On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Cars now can be shut down remotely by Onstar (and isn't there another service like that?), data can be read remotely or after some incident from the computer(s), an EMP generator can fry the systems. I wonder if some bright hacker could access a car remotely (a la Onstar) and cause mayhem while it is moving? --R Craig McCluskey wrote: Some things you don't usually consider with newer cars ... Craig Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:14:36 -0700 To: diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Fw: DeviceLINE - Cars and Code, Serious SSL Flaw, Hackable Factories, Mocana Panelist at Conference 4 Doors, Dual Airbags, 100 Million Lines of Code Today's automobiles have some new features that most consumers don't hear much about: more than 100 million lines of code running on dozens of CPUs, with several different bluetooth, cellular or satellite wireless access points and little or no security. Are our cars going to be the next zombie recruits into Chinese spam botnets? http://mocana.com/blog/2009/11/08/4-doors-dual-airbags-100-million-lines-of-code/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful eveningit hasbeen!)
Rick Knoble wrote: Gave it up. Free. Too big to fail, indeed! Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] another important events announcement from buyeuroparts.com
jaime got married! it's true buy your parts at www.buyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cash For Clunkers - Some Numbers
Thought ya'll might enjoy this -- The Plan, The Scam, The Man, Don't ya just love it when a plan comes together? The Scam Here is what a learned friend had to say about Democratic Math. It's even worse apparently than I first thought: It's way worse than that. Ignore all the gas crap and just look at how the stupid car buyer got taken to the cleaners: If you traded in a clunker worth $3500, you get $4500 off for an apparent savings of $1000. However, you have to pay taxes on the $4500 come April 15th (something that no auto dealer will tell you). If you are in the 30% tax bracket, you will pay $1350 on that $4500. So, rather than save $1000, you actually pay an extra $350 to the feds. In addition, you traded in a car that was most likely paid for. Now you have 4 or 5 years of payments on a car that you did not need, that was costing you less to run than the payments that you will now be making. But wait; it gets even better: you also got ripped off by the dealer. For example, every dealer here in LA was selling the Ford Focus with all the goodies, including A/C, auto transmission, power windows, etc for $12,500 the month before the cash for clunkers program started. When cash for clunkers came along, they stopped discounting them and instead sold them at the list price of $15,500. So, you paid $3000 more than you would have the month before... (Honda, Toyota , and Kia played the same list price game that Ford and Chevy did). So let's do the final tally here: You traded in a car worth: $3500 You got a discount of: $4500 - Net so far +$1000 But you have to pay:$1350 in taxes on the $4500 Net so far: -$350 And you paid: $3000 more than the car was selling for the month before -- Net -$3350 We could also add in the additional taxes (sales tax, state tax, etc.) on the extra $3000 that you paid for the car, along with the 5 years of interest on the car loan, but let's just stop here. So who actually made out on the deal? The feds collected taxes on the car along with taxes on the $4500 they gave you. The car dealers made an extra $3000 or more on every car they sold along with the kickbacks from the manufacturers and the loan companies. The manufacturers got to dump lots of cars they could not give away the month before. And the poor, stupid consumer got saddled with even more debt that they cannot afford. Obama and his band of merry men convinced Joe consumer that he was getting $4500 in free money from the government when in fact, Joe was giving away his $3500 car and paying an additional $3350 for the privilege. Think this was stupid for those who were crazy enough to swallow this wonderful scheme? Just wait until we get health care with no additional costs over what most of us now pay for health insurance and the best medical care in the world. Think that scheme might be designed by the same people who came up with Cash for Clunkers? LarryT 74 911 OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cash For Clunkers - Some Numbers
i think this is an important announcement about cash for clunkers i'm not affiliated with cash for clunkers, btw On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:30 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thought ya'll might enjoy this -- The Plan, The Scam, The Man, Don't ya just love it when a plan comes together? The Scam Here is what a learned friend had to say about Democratic Math. It's even worse apparently than I first thought: It's way worse than that. Ignore all the gas crap and just look at how the stupid car buyer got taken to the cleaners: If you traded in a clunker worth $3500, you get $4500 off for an apparent savings of $1000. However, you have to pay taxes on the $4500 come April 15th (something that no auto dealer will tell you). If you are in the 30% tax bracket, you will pay $1350 on that $4500. So, rather than save $1000, you actually pay an extra $350 to the feds. In addition, you traded in a car that was most likely paid for. Now you have 4 or 5 years of payments on a car that you did not need, that was costing you less to run than the payments that you will now be making. But wait; it gets even better: you also got ripped off by the dealer. For example, every dealer here in LA was selling the Ford Focus with all the goodies, including A/C, auto transmission, power windows, etc for $12,500 the month before the cash for clunkers program started. When cash for clunkers came along, they stopped discounting them and instead sold them at the list price of $15,500. So, you paid $3000 more than you would have the month before... (Honda, Toyota , and Kia played the same list price game that Ford and Chevy did). So let's do the final tally here: You traded in a car worth: $3500 You got a discount of: $4500 - Net so far +$1000 But you have to pay:$1350 in taxes on the $4500 Net so far: -$350 And you paid: $3000 more than the car was selling for the month before -- Net -$3350 We could also add in the additional taxes (sales tax, state tax, etc.) on the extra $3000 that you paid for the car, along with the 5 years of interest on the car loan, but let's just stop here. So who actually made out on the deal? The feds collected taxes on the car along with taxes on the $4500 they gave you. The car dealers made an extra $3000 or more on every car they sold along with the kickbacks from the manufacturers and the loan companies. The manufacturers got to dump lots of cars they could not give away the month before. And the poor, stupid consumer got saddled with even more debt that they cannot afford. Obama and his band of merry men convinced Joe consumer that he was getting $4500 in free money from the government when in fact, Joe was giving away his $3500 car and paying an additional $3350 for the privilege. Think this was stupid for those who were crazy enough to swallow this wonderful scheme? Just wait until we get health care with no additional costs over what most of us now pay for health insurance and the best medical care in the world. Think that scheme might be designed by the same people who came up with Cash for Clunkers? LarryT 74 911 OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cash For Clunkers - Some Numbers
No, I did not enjoy reading this garbage. Why? Because it is not true. There is NO Federal Income Tax due. Bandwidth is heavy these days, please check the facts. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:30 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thought ya'll might enjoy this -- The Plan, The Scam, The Man, Don't ya just love it when a plan comes together? The Scam Here is what a learned friend had to say about Democratic Math. It's even worse apparently than I first thought: It's way worse than that. Ignore all the gas crap and just look at how the stupid car buyer got taken to the cleaners: If you traded in a clunker worth $3500, you get $4500 off for an apparent savings of $1000. However, you have to pay taxes on the $4500 come April 15th (something that no auto dealer will tell you). If you are in the 30% tax bracket, you will pay $1350 on that $4500. So, rather than save $1000, you actually pay an extra $350 to the feds. In addition, you traded in a car that was most likely paid for. Now you have 4 or 5 years of payments on a car that you did not need, that was costing you less to run than the payments that you will now be making. But wait; it gets even better: you also got ripped off by the dealer. For example, every dealer here in LA was selling the Ford Focus with all the goodies, including A/C, auto transmission, power windows, etc for $12,500 the month before the cash for clunkers program started. When cash for clunkers came along, they stopped discounting them and instead sold them at the list price of $15,500. So, you paid $3000 more than you would have the month before... (Honda, Toyota , and Kia played the same list price game that Ford and Chevy did). So let's do the final tally here: You traded in a car worth: $3500 You got a discount of: $4500 - Net so far +$1000 But you have to pay: $1350 in taxes on the $4500 Net so far: -$350 And you paid: $3000 more than the car was selling for the month before -- Net -$3350 We could also add in the additional taxes (sales tax, state tax, etc.) on the extra $3000 that you paid for the car, along with the 5 years of interest on the car loan, but let's just stop here. So who actually made out on the deal? The feds collected taxes on the car along with taxes on the $4500 they gave you. The car dealers made an extra $3000 or more on every car they sold along with the kickbacks from the manufacturers and the loan companies. The manufacturers got to dump lots of cars they could not give away the month before. And the poor, stupid consumer got saddled with even more debt that they cannot afford. Obama and his band of merry men convinced Joe consumer that he was getting $4500 in free money from the government when in fact, Joe was giving away his $3500 car and paying an additional $3350 for the privilege. Think this was stupid for those who were crazy enough to swallow this wonderful scheme? Just wait until we get health care with no additional costs over what most of us now pay for health insurance and the best medical care in the world. Think that scheme might be designed by the same people who came up with Cash for Clunkers? LarryT 74 911 OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
Yea, it might be, in banned. I am just now catching up on my emails for the day but its looking like the hammer may have to come down. dave walton wrote: On second thought, this might be fun to watch :-) -Dave Walton On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Let's also remember who pulled you from the gutter, gave you a job when you hadn't had one in years, which allowed you to buy all the guns, cameras, watches and computers that you have and paid you almost twice as much as me the last 3 years. These figures are well recorded in QuickBooks, trust me. Best to not start a war here, you'll probably not fair so well. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two really? in what manner? the real irony here is that i not only support these lists, i'm the founder of these lists. there would have never been a diesel list for you if richard and i didn't start one. there would never have been a rusty if richard and i didn't invent him. this disrespect many of you show me is a little much. normally i just kind of smile to myself and wonder how ignorant otherwise intelligent people can be. but sometimes i'm not as cheerful. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:58:12 -0500 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: gary would suggest he buy is parts at buymbparts.com, but what the hell does he know anyway? He knows Rusty supports this list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BuyMBparts.com events (and an eventful evening it hasbeen!)
maybe its autohausaz in disguise. Also, wrong list for the language. Rick Knoble wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Not sure what this gibberish is, but looks like buymbparts.com is now neither Rusty's nor Gary's site? Someone else sure snapped it up in a hurry. I second that. WTF is this? BuyMBparts has been delivering quality service and confidence to customers from its Phoenix based headquarters for over a decade. Headquarters are located at 800 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis, MN 55402. http://www.buymbparts.com/about.html What a cluster this became in a hurry. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] BuyMBparts , Inc. Events
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