Re: [MBZ] WAS Vac lines w-116 NOW Service Manual CD

2010-04-16 Thread Ed Booher
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote:

 We have the service manual CD for the W-116. It is some help except it
 seems there are some variables. Can't decide which way ours should go from
 the pictures and diagrams.
 Thought real pics of the same car might be better


Speaking of the service manual CD's, how do I get a hold of those?

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] WAS Vac lines w-116 NOW Service Manual CD

2010-04-16 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
MBUSA, Classics, Technical literature.  If they are in stock, they are
about $20 plus shipping.

http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/

-Max 

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Ed Booher
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Vac lines  w-116 NOW Service Manual CD

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net
wrote:

 We have the service manual CD for the W-116. It is some help except it

 seems there are some variables. Can't decide which way ours should go 
 from the pictures and diagrams.
 Thought real pics of the same car might be better


Speaking of the service manual CD's, how do I get a hold of those?

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue

2010-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Five minutes of sitting here trying to think up a dipstick joke and all I can 
think of is the picture of Wilton with the clock he built. With that in my mind 
theres just no way to make that kind of joke...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:49:32 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue
Message-ID: bafb3e499b534262a8e173fc7d657...@wiltonpc
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There is ALWAYS black oil on my dipsticks, and I plan and hope to keep that 
way.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue


 On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:16:41 -0400 Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Added a little over a gallon of Rotella and now there is *black* oil on
 the dipstick.

 For the newly-initiated-into-diesels, the oil turns pitch black almost
 immediately after it is changed.


 Craig


  
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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
I dunno if its true but I could believe it. The black is supposed to be soot 
and the TP filter is supposed to remove soot...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:35:57 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue,    now
    cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID: m1y6go9ihu@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 Black oil is normal, it'll ALWAYS be like that. 2 seconds after you
 put in fresh honey colored oil it'll be black as night, nothing to
 worry about.

IIRC, a long time ago there was someone on the list who had a
toilet-paper bypass filter and he claimed his oil was not black.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Peter T. Arnold

Soot = Carbon
Carbon = Lubricant
so
Soot = lubricant

F-soot is 100% ok as long as it doesn't exceed the oil makers requirements.

This is an oil thread in disguise.

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On 4/16/2010 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I dunno if its true but I could believe it. The black is supposed to be soot 
and the TP filter is supposed to remove soot...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:35:57 -0400
From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue,now
 cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID:m1y6go9ihu@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  writes:

   

Black oil is normal, it'll ALWAYS be like that. 2 seconds after you
put in fresh honey colored oil it'll be black as night, nothing to
worry about.
 

IIRC, a long time ago there was someone on the list who had a
toilet-paper bypass filter and he claimed his oil was not black.

Allan

   


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[MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that 
forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear...
The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because 
although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass. 
Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. We've 
had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a little during 
the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and left 'em open all 
night and it rained/snowed...

DRAT!

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Vac lines w-116 NOW Service Manual CD

2010-04-16 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Ed-what is your new car? I was off list for a week or so.
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Ed Booher
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:32 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Vac lines  w-116 NOW Service Manual CD

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote:

 We have the service manual CD for the W-116. It is some help except it
 seems there are some variables. Can't decide which way ours should go from
 the pictures and diagrams.
 Thought real pics of the same car might be better


Speaking of the service manual CD's, how do I get a hold of those?

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas

What would be the BEST oil to use then?

--R

On 4/16/2010 9:31 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote:

Soot = Carbon
Carbon = Lubricant
so
Soot = lubricant

F-soot is 100% ok as long as it doesn't exceed the oil makers 
requirements.


This is an oil thread in disguise.

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My Mind Not Only Wanders, Sometimes it Leaves Completely!


On 4/16/2010 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I dunno if its true but I could believe it. The black is supposed to 
be soot and the TP filter is supposed to remove soot...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:35:57 -0400
From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue,now
 cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID:m1y6go9ihu@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  writes:


Black oil is normal, it'll ALWAYS be like that. 2 seconds after you
put in fresh honey colored oil it'll be black as night, nothing to
worry about.

IIRC, a long time ago there was someone on the list who had a
toilet-paper bypass filter and he claimed his oil was not black.

Allan



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[MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.....and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1694687648.html

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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Mitch Haley

Peter T. Arnold wrote:

Soot = Carbon
Carbon = Lubricant
so
Soot = lubricant


Diamond dust = Carbon
Carbon = lubricant
so
Diamond dust = lubricant

Step 2 is where the proof fails.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Oh my...

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/1694665795.html

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Re: [MBZ] $250 300SE

2010-04-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

it comes with a good engine, just do the swap.

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Uh = first read, might have to look into that; real close.

No = second read, dead engine, never mind.

  


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85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote:
 You should also do bearings I believe, if you don't have maintenance
 history.  I haven't done mine yet but I think they are due every 15k.

15K?!?  What kind of Benz are we talking about here again?

I've never done wheel bearings on any of my 124s and 126s.  Always
figured I would just wait for them to get noisy.

Now sitting here biting my nails with the mental picture of a wheel
flying off on the highway...  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread WILTON

SNOWED?%!  ;

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: [MBZ] *sigh*


The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that 
forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear...
The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because 
although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass. 
Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. 
We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a 
little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and 
left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed...


DRAT!

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now wheelbearings

2010-04-16 Thread Dieselhead

They were probably to be repacked at each E service.

I put over 230K on my first SDL, and never popped off a hubcap to 
look at the grease.  That introduces dirt anyway.  It had over 400k 
on it when it went to okieacres rest home.


The only times i have seen wheel bearing problems is when the OE 
grease was replaced with white lithium crap.  It gets hard, then 
there is no grease. then the bearing craps out.  If you use the 
specified grease, or moly grease, and adjust them reasonably close to 
spec, they run a LONG time.


I have had to replace rear axle bearings. The right one on each 124 
wagon, and both on my 66 110.110.10



On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote:

 You should also do bearings I believe, if you don't have maintenance
 history.  I haven't done mine yet but I think they are due every 15k.


15K?!?  What kind of Benz are we talking about here again?

I've never done wheel bearings on any of my 124s and 126s.  Always
figured I would just wait for them to get noisy.

Now sitting here biting my nails with the mental picture of a wheel
flying off on the highway...  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:

SNOWED?%!  ;


It got down to 60 and rained last night here.
I think it hit 84 yesterday afternoon.
Tonight it'll be in the 20s.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Peter T. Arnold

Depends on desired result.


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On 4/16/2010 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

What would be the BEST oil to use then?

--R

On 4/16/2010 9:31 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote:

Soot = Carbon
Carbon = Lubricant
so
Soot = lubricant

F-soot is 100% ok as long as it doesn't exceed the oil makers 
requirements.


This is an oil thread in disguise.

--
Pete Arnold ‹(•¿•)›

My Mind Not Only Wanders, Sometimes it Leaves Completely!


On 4/16/2010 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I dunno if its true but I could believe it. The black is supposed to 
be soot and the TP filter is supposed to remove soot...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:35:57 -0400
From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue,now
 cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID:m1y6go9ihu@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  writes:


Black oil is normal, it'll ALWAYS be like that. 2 seconds after you
put in fresh honey colored oil it'll be black as night, nothing to
worry about.

IIRC, a long time ago there was someone on the list who had a
toilet-paper bypass filter and he claimed his oil was not black.

Allan



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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Dunno about 124 and 126 but on a 123 if they're noisy you need NEW bearings. 
Repacking them will help to prevent needing new ones.
My 201 never did get noisy before the bearings catastrophically failed. 
Fortunately MB brake design means the wheel doesn't fall off.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:55:16 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue,    now
    cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote:
 You should also do bearings I believe, if you don't have maintenance
 history. ?I haven't done mine yet but I think they are due every 15k.

15K?!?  What kind of Benz are we talking about here again?

I've never done wheel bearings on any of my 124s and 126s.  Always
figured I would just wait for them to get noisy.

Now sitting here biting my nails with the mental picture of a wheel
flying off on the highway...  ;)

Alex


  
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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah you know, white stuff that falls from the sky...

Last week it was 90 this week it snows. Normal New England weather. Keeps you 
guessing.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:30:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Message-ID: 5a1e9133a3d74d1691f19600cfb78...@wiltonpc
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
    reply-type=original

SNOWED?%!  ;

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: [MBZ] *sigh*


 The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that 
 forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear...
 The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because 
 although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass. 
 Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. 
 We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a 
 little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and 
 left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed...

 DRAT!

 -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Right-we didn't have snow in southern RI but I had to scrape frost off the
240D yesterday.  Two weeks ago we had floods.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:06 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

Yeah you know, white stuff that falls from the sky...

Last week it was 90 this week it snows. Normal New England weather. Keeps
you guessing.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:30:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Message-ID: 5a1e9133a3d74d1691f19600cfb78...@wiltonpc
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
    reply-type=original

SNOWED?%!  ;

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: [MBZ] *sigh*


 The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that 
 forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear...
 The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because 
 although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass.

 Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. 
 We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a 
 little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and

 left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed...

 DRAT!

 -Curt


  
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[MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
I just got off the phone with Rick at BuyMBParts. He said Rusty had a bad
sinus infection and ended up in the hospital. He had no more information.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

that sucks.  Who the heck is Rick?

Craig McCluskey wrote:

I just got off the phone with Rick at BuyMBParts. He said Rusty had a bad
sinus infection and ended up in the hospital. He had no more information.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread Dieselhead

Welcome to global warming!  Glad to hear you are enjoying a heat wave!


SNOWED?%!  ;

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: [MBZ] *sigh*

The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like 
that forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear...
The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality 
because although its not real old it likes to leak around the 
bottom of the glass. Every couple years I seal it down and 
apparently it needs doing again. We've had a run of nice weather so 
I've been leaving the windows open a little during the day so the 
car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and left 'em open all 
night and it rained/snowed...


DRAT!

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:58:42 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 that sucks.  Who the heck is Rick?

Somebody that was helping out by filling in.

When I mentioned I was working on a '94 E420, he seemed familiar with it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread E M
Get well soon Rusty.  Seems to be that time of year where a lot of being hit
with sinus problems.  Saw my bank manager today, and she could hardly keep
her head up off her desk!

Ed
300E

On 16 April 2010 15:53, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 I just got off the phone with Rick at BuyMBParts. He said Rusty had a bad
 sinus infection and ended up in the hospital. He had no more information.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread WILTON
Yes, I'm familiar with it - too familiar; Lincoln, NE, 3 yrs, MI UP 4 yrs, 
Greenland 1 yr, CA Sierras and San Gabriels - even here (Eastern NC) , but 
luckily only occasionally here and short-lived.  ;))


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh*


Yeah you know, white stuff that falls from the sky...

Last week it was 90 this week it snows. Normal New England weather. Keeps 
you guessing.


-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:30:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Message-ID: 5a1e9133a3d74d1691f19600cfb78...@wiltonpc
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

SNOWED?%! ;

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: [MBZ] *sigh*



The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that
forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear...
The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because
although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass.
Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again.
We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a
little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and
left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed...

DRAT!

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well thats a good sign, if would have asked what that was, I would have 
be scared.


Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:58:42 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

  

that sucks.  Who the heck is Rick?



Somebody that was helping out by filling in.

When I mentioned I was working on a '94 E420, he seemed familiar with it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread WILTON

Was she sad/depressed over your large cash withdrawal?  ;

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital


Get well soon Rusty.  Seems to be that time of year where a lot of being 
hit

with sinus problems.  Saw my bank manager today, and she could hardly keep
her head up off her desk!

Ed
300E

On 16 April 2010 15:53, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


I just got off the phone with Rick at BuyMBParts. He said Rusty had a bad
sinus infection and ended up in the hospital. He had no more information.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue

2010-04-16 Thread John Reames
Just as long as you aren't thinking or speaking in a lousy fake  
Scottish/Irish accent...


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On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:06, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

Five minutes of sitting here trying to think up a dipstick joke and  
all I can think of is the picture of Wilton with the clock he built.  
With that in my mind theres just no way to make that kind of joke...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:49:32 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue
Message-ID: bafb3e499b534262a8e173fc7d657...@wiltonpc
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

There is ALWAYS black oil on my dipsticks, and I plan and hope to  
keep that

way.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue


On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:16:41 -0400 Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com  
wrote:


Added a little over a gallon of Rotella and now there is *black*  
oil on

the dipstick.


For the newly-initiated-into-diesels, the oil turns pitch black  
almost

immediately after it is changed.


Craig




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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread John Reames

Diamonds=carbon; diamonds should then lubricate...

Speaking of carbon, coal is carbon and so are diamonds... Give swmbo a  
coal ring and explain that it's all carbon...


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On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:31, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote:


Soot = Carbon
Carbon = Lubricant
so
Soot = lubricant

F-soot is 100% ok as long as it doesn't exceed the oil makers  
requirements.


This is an oil thread in disguise.

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On 4/16/2010 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I dunno if its true but I could believe it. The black is supposed  
to be soot and the TP filter is supposed to remove soot...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:35:57 -0400
From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue,now
cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID:m1y6go9ihu@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  writes:



Black oil is normal, it'll ALWAYS be like that. 2 seconds after you
put in fresh honey colored oil it'll be black as night, nothing to
worry about.


IIRC, a long time ago there was someone on the list who had a
toilet-paper bypass filter and he claimed his oil was not black.

Allan




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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread John Reames
M1 turbo diesel, or whatever is equivalent... That and the formula m  
have the high zddp (1200?) levels that our old models like to see...


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On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:36, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 wrote:



What would be the BEST oil to use then?

--R

On 4/16/2010 9:31 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote:

Soot = Carbon
Carbon = Lubricant
so
Soot = lubricant

F-soot is 100% ok as long as it doesn't exceed the oil makers  
requirements.


This is an oil thread in disguise.

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On 4/16/2010 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I dunno if its true but I could believe it. The black is supposed  
to be soot and the TP filter is supposed to remove soot...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:35:57 -0400
From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, 
now

cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID:m1y6go9ihu@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  writes:


Black oil is normal, it'll ALWAYS be like that. 2 seconds after you
put in fresh honey colored oil it'll be black as night, nothing to
worry about.

IIRC, a long time ago there was someone on the list who had a
toilet-paper bypass filter and he claimed his oil was not black.

Allan



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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now wheelbearings

2010-04-16 Thread John Reames
On non Mercedes I have used drydene (now the heavy duty lubes division  
of castrol) pyroplex in either the red or blue varieties... The blue  
is REALLY neat/good stuff since it seems to adhere to metal even  
better when water enters the picture than it does in air...


It might be good monowiper lube...

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On Apr 16, 2010, at 10:31, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


They were probably to be repacked at each E service.

I put over 230K on my first SDL, and never popped off a hubcap to  
look at the grease.  That introduces dirt anyway.  It had over 400k  
on it when it went to okieacres rest home.


The only times i have seen wheel bearing problems is when the OE  
grease was replaced with white lithium crap.  It gets hard, then  
there is no grease. then the bearing craps out.  If you use the  
specified grease, or moly grease, and adjust them reasonably close  
to spec, they run a LONG time.


I have had to replace rear axle bearings. The right one on each 124  
wagon, and both on my 66 110.110.10



On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote:

You should also do bearings I believe, if you don't have maintenance
history.  I haven't done mine yet but I think they are due every  
15k.


15K?!?  What kind of Benz are we talking about here again?

I've never done wheel bearings on any of my 124s and 126s.  Always
figured I would just wait for them to get noisy.

Now sitting here biting my nails with the mental picture of a wheel
flying off on the highway...  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.....and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350

2010-04-16 Thread LWB250
I would jump on this - the roll up cargo cover was a $1000 option when new.  I 
tried for years to find one when I had a 123 wagon

Dan



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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage 
Cover/Dog Gate - $350
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 9:37 AM

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1694687648.html

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread John Reames

Gash.

Hope he gets better soon.



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On Apr 16, 2010, at 15:53, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net  
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I just got off the phone with Rick at BuyMBParts. He said Rusty had  
a bad
sinus infection and ended up in the hospital. He had no more  
information.



Craig

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[MBZ] 140 2 tone seats?

2010-04-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Did 140's ever come in 2 tone seats?  I am looking at this car and have 
never seen seats like this.  I also notice its a 500 but has zebrano 
wood, the buttons for the heated seats, ASR, and power rear head rests 
is missing.  My thought on that is that at some point somebody replaced 
the cracked burl with this and it did not have the holes for the other 
buttons so they are just loose behind the dash or something.


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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread Kevin Kraly

I hope they replace his fuses too.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

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Re: [MBZ] 140 2 tone seats?

2010-04-16 Thread E M
Yes, some of the V12s.

Ed
300E

On 16 April 2010 17:04, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 Did 140's ever come in 2 tone seats?  I am looking at this car and have
 never seen seats like this.  I also notice its a 500 but has zebrano wood,
 the buttons for the heated seats, ASR, and power rear head rests is missing.
  My thought on that is that at some point somebody replaced the cracked burl
 with this and it did not have the holes for the other buttons so they are
 just loose behind the dash or something.


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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas

Oh look, he took the bait!

--R

On 4/16/2010 4:46 PM, John Reames wrote:
M1 turbo diesel, or whatever is equivalent... That and the formula m 
have the high zddp (1200?) levels that our old models like to see...


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On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:36, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:



What would be the BEST oil to use then?

--R

On 4/16/2010 9:31 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote:

Soot = Carbon
Carbon = Lubricant
so
Soot = lubricant

F-soot is 100% ok as long as it doesn't exceed the oil makers 
requirements.


This is an oil thread in disguise.

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On 4/16/2010 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I dunno if its true but I could believe it. The black is supposed 
to be soot and the TP filter is supposed to remove soot...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:35:57 -0400
From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue,now
cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID:m1y6go9ihu@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  writes:


Black oil is normal, it'll ALWAYS be like that. 2 seconds after you
put in fresh honey colored oil it'll be black as night, nothing to
worry about.

IIRC, a long time ago there was someone on the list who had a
toilet-paper bypass filter and he claimed his oil was not black.

Allan



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Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.....and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas

It would probably double the value of my TD, so not really something I need.

--R

On 4/16/2010 4:54 PM, LWB250 wrote:

I would jump on this - the roll up cargo cover was a $1000 option when new.  I 
tried for years to find one when I had a 123 wagon

Dan



--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage 
Cover/Dog Gate - $350
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 9:37 AM

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1694687648.html

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas

ALL his FUSES

--R

On 4/16/2010 5:09 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote:

I hope they replace his fuses too.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital GET WELL SOON!

2010-04-16 Thread LarryT
   Don't know why, but as I get older allergies affect me more and more - 
each year the pollen  mold seems to make me feel worse and worse.  When my 
sinuses get filled it bad but *nothing* compared to a sinus infection. 
It's up there with kidney stones - not quite as bad as K. stones but bad 
just the same.  Has Ruty u


You're in your Prayers Rusty!  Feel better soon!

LarryT
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital

Get well soon Rusty.  Seems to be that time of year where a lot of being 
hit

with sinus problems.  Saw my bank manager today, and she could hardly keep
her head up off her desk!

Ed
300E

On 16 April 2010 15:53, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


I just got off the phone with Rick at BuyMBParts. He said Rusty had a bad
sinus infection and ended up in the hospital. He had no more information.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 140 2 tone seats?

2010-04-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, I know they do, but the pattern of the leather is different, as in, 
it has a slightly darker shade around the edges, and the middle is 
usually lighter.  But this has the same pattern of leather, but just 2 
tones.  Here is what I am talking about with the 600's.  Maybe there 
were some 2 tone 600s with the same leather pattern.


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=264076620dealer_id=583172car_year=1995rdm=1271455735620lastStartYear=1981model=600SELnum_records=25systime=make3=make2=MBhighlightFirstMakeModel=start_year=1992keywordsfyc=keywordsrep=engine=certified=body_code=0fuel=awsp=falsesearch_type=bothdistance=0marketZipError=falsemodel2=S600search_lang=ensownerid=5255showZipError=nmake=MBkeywords_display=color=page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchformmin_price=drive=default_sort=priceASCseller_type=bmax_mileage=style_flag=1sort_type=priceASCaddress=74019advanced=yend_year=1999doors=transmission=max_price=cardist=570standard=false



E M wrote:

Yes, some of the V12s.

Ed
300E

On 16 April 2010 17:04, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

  

Did 140's ever come in 2 tone seats?  I am looking at this car and have
never seen seats like this.  I also notice its a 500 but has zebrano wood,
the buttons for the heated seats, ASR, and power rear head rests is missing.
 My thought on that is that at some point somebody replaced the cracked burl
with this and it did not have the holes for the other buttons so they are
just loose behind the dash or something.


http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcccsDlId=csDgId=listingId=40158114listingRecNum=24criteria=sf1Dir%3DDESC%26alMdId%3D21906%26mkId%3D20028%26stkTyp%3DU%26mdId%3D21906%26rd%3D500%26crSrtFlds%3DstkTypId-feedSegId-mkId-mdId-pseudoYear%26zc%3D74019%26rn%3D0%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26stkTypId%3D28881%26sf2Dir%3DASC%26sf1Nm%3Dprice%26yrMn%3D1992%26sf2Nm%3Dmiles%26yrMx%3D1999%26alMkId%3D20028%26rpp%3D250%26feedSegId%3D28705aff=national

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manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread Peter Frederick
Time for new gaskets and proper repair of the body lip.  They should  
not, in fact, leak at all.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 140 2 tone seats?

2010-04-16 Thread E M
You probably know a lot more about W140s than I do, but those rims look like
the style I've only seen on Euro W140s, along with the front turn signals.
I know the W126 had a different seat pattern than on the cars here, so
perhaps there are slight variations between US and Euro S140s too?  I know
some of the leather on 600s was also available as an option here in Canada
on the 500s, as I've seen a 500 with a full 600 interior, alcaltera roof
lining, and stitched leather dash.

Personally, I never cared for the two tone leather on the 600s.  Can't
remember, was it standard on the early, or later models?  I know the early
models had a bit more power too.

Ed
300E

On 16 April 2010 18:11, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 Yea, I know they do, but the pattern of the leather is different, as in, it
 has a slightly darker shade around the edges, and the middle is usually
 lighter.  But this has the same pattern of leather, but just 2 tones.  Here
 is what I am talking about with the 600's.  Maybe there were some 2 tone
 600s with the same leather pattern.


 http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=264076620dealer_id=583172car_year=1995rdm=1271455735620lastStartYear=1981model=600SELnum_records=25systime=make3=make2=MBhighlightFirstMakeModel=start_year=1992keywordsfyc=keywordsrep=engine=certified=body_code=0fuel=awsp=falsesearch_type=bothdistance=0marketZipError=falsemodel2=S600search_lang=ensownerid=5255showZipError=nmake=MBkeywords_display=color=page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchformmin_price=drive=default_sort=priceASCseller_type=bmax_mileage=style_flag=1sort_type=priceASCaddress=74019advanced=yend_year=1999doors=transmission=max_price=cardist=570standard=false




 E M wrote:

 Yes, some of the V12s.

 Ed
 300E

 On 16 April 2010 17:04, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:



 Did 140's ever come in 2 tone seats?  I am looking at this car and have
 never seen seats like this.  I also notice its a 500 but has zebrano
 wood,
 the buttons for the heated seats, ASR, and power rear head rests is
 missing.
  My thought on that is that at some point somebody replaced the cracked
 burl
 with this and it did not have the holes for the other buttons so they are
 just loose behind the dash or something.



 http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcccsDlId=csDgId=listingId=40158114listingRecNum=24criteria=sf1Dir%3DDESC%26alMdId%3D21906%26mkId%3D20028%26stkTyp%3DU%26mdId%3D21906%26rd%3D500%26crSrtFlds%3DstkTypId-feedSegId-mkId-mdId-pseudoYear%26zc%3D74019%26rn%3D0%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26stkTypId%3D28881%26sf2Dir%3DASC%26sf1Nm%3Dprice%26yrMn%3D1992%26sf2Nm%3Dmiles%26yrMx%3D1999%26alMkId%3D20028%26rpp%3D250%26feedSegId%3D28705aff=national

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 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro
 manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.....and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350

2010-04-16 Thread LWB250
Heck, I would just pull a Kaleb, buy them and turn around and put them on eBay.

People still pay stupid money for these.
Dan

--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage 
Cover/Dog Gate - $350
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 5:22 PM

It would probably double the value of my TD, so not really something I need.

--R

On 4/16/2010 4:54 PM, LWB250 wrote:
 I would jump on this - the roll up cargo cover was a $1000 option when new.  
 I tried for years to find one when I had a 123 wagon

 Dan



 --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

 From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 Subject: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage 
 Cover/Dog Gate - $350
 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 9:37 AM

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1694687648.html

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[MBZ] I'm Not Sure Why, But....

2010-04-16 Thread LWB250
I want one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvFrqwOyeZw
Dan


  
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[MBZ] OT Blue Angels

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas
The Blue Angels are in town (Charleston) for shows this weekend, and 
were practicing today and yesterday.  I was driving by the airport this 
afternoon and their C-130 took off and made several passes over the 
flight zone, I guess to check things out. I was headed over to a house 
that sits on the harbor and looks out where they will put on the show.  
As I was pulling into the driveway the C-130 made a VERY low pass at 
about a 30deg right bank over the house, probably not more than 200ft 
high if that.  I didn't look quickly enough to see the pilot, but I'm 
sure I could have recognized him/her.  OK that was cool.  I got to the 
house, and in a few minutes here they came.  They practiced for about an 
hour, made several low passes over the house (individual aircraft as 
well as formations of 4 and 6) headed out into and from the harbor as 
they did their thing.  One coming over headed to the harbor lit reheat 
and popped smoke just over the house WHAM!!! at maybe 2-300ft and 
started pulling up into a vertical rolling climb, while the other 3 were 
coming from the other compass points.  OH WOW!!!  I so wanted to be in 
one of those planes...I could have introduced myself to the pilots 
though, they were just right there...


Anyway, headed back to watch a show tomorrow, should be awesome.  
Weather is totally gorgeous and clear too.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread John Reames
Well it was either that or slashing you behind the knees with a  
dipstick... ;)


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On Apr 16, 2010, at 17:21, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 wrote:



Oh look, he took the bait!

--R

On 4/16/2010 4:46 PM, John Reames wrote:
M1 turbo diesel, or whatever is equivalent... That and the formula  
m have the high zddp (1200?) levels that our old models like to  
see...


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On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:36, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 wrote:



What would be the BEST oil to use then?

--R

On 4/16/2010 9:31 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote:

Soot = Carbon
Carbon = Lubricant
so
Soot = lubricant

F-soot is 100% ok as long as it doesn't exceed the oil makers  
requirements.


This is an oil thread in disguise.

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On 4/16/2010 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I dunno if its true but I could believe it. The black is  
supposed to be soot and the TP filter is supposed to remove  
soot...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:35:57 -0400
From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission  
issue,now

   cleaningcrud from tanks
Message-ID:m1y6go9ihu@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  writes:

Black oil is normal, it'll ALWAYS be like that. 2 seconds after  
you
put in fresh honey colored oil it'll be black as night, nothing  
to

worry about.

IIRC, a long time ago there was someone on the list who had a
toilet-paper bypass filter and he claimed his oil was not black.

Allan



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[MBZ] Maintenance intervals, was Re: Ed's new ride, was 240D Transmission issue, now cleaningcrud from tanks

2010-04-16 Thread Tim C.
 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Tim C. bb...@crone.us wrote:
  You should also do bearings I believe, if you don't have maintenance
  history.  I haven't done mine yet but I think they are due every 15k.
 
 15K?!?  What kind of Benz are we talking about here again?
 
 I've never done wheel bearings on any of my 124s and 126s.  Always
 figured I would just wait for them to get noisy.

MB maintenance book for my '74 240D says 30k, so I was 100% off anyway.  I 
assume the maintenance is the same for at least the early 123s but who 
knows about later.

It also says 180 - rear axle at 3k, can that be right?  Or is that just 
to check the fluid and it's changed with the trans at 30k?

Anyway I should probably scan in the whole book, the stickers are starting 
to fall out.  I just noticed the intervals are at 3/7/10, that was a good 
idea. :)

 Now sitting here biting my nails with the mental picture of a wheel
 flying off on the highway...  ;)

Surely there'd be some warning, like the awful sinking feeling you'd get 
as you heard it grinding itself out... :)

-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty's in the hospital GET WELL SOON!

2010-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Strangely as I get older my allergies effect me less...

I had a sinus infection once, fortunately it was caught before it was dangerous.

Get well soon Rusty!

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:46:12 -0400
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Subject:
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    Don't know why, but as I get older 
allergies affect me more and more - 
each year the pollen  mold 
seems to make me feel worse and worse.  When my 
sinuses get filled 
it bad but *nothing* compared to a sinus infection. 
It's up there 
with kidney stones - not quite as bad as K. stones but bad 
just the 
same.  Has Ruty u

You're in your Prayers Rusty!  Feel better 
soon!

LarryT
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Nice idea, but not on a $400 car. I'll just keep driving it until something 
major fails at which point I get a new car. I drive 110 miles a day, I hate to 
have a nice car because I'll just ruin it. Having a lousy car is kind of nice, 
every time I fix something thats been broken for awhile I actually make the car 
more valuable...

A good seal on the front would fix the leak I think (it leaks at the glass not 
the metal) but the last one cost me $200...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:19:39 -0500
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Time for 
new gaskets and proper repair of the body lip.  They should  
not, in
 fact, leak at all.

Peter


  
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Re: [MBZ] *sigh*

2010-04-16 Thread Peter Frederick
It will last a decade longer without the floor being wet and rusting  
away.


peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Blue Angels

2010-04-16 Thread Dieselhead
We were walking on the beach at Kailua one day, and all the sudden 
the Thunderbirds were flashing over us, from inland over the beach 
and then over water.  They proceeded to practice the whole airshow, 
just for us.  The airshow was the next day at Hickam.  It is an 
awesome thing. (in the true sense of the word)  Some of their passes 
were low and slow enough we could see them, and I am sure they saw my 
jaw laying on the sand and the drool running out of my mouth!  They 
were really close to the Marine Corps Air Station, and I am sure that 
was not  an oversight by the air force brass.  A lot of our friends 
were USMC pilots and brass.  But the show was spectacular!  When they 
hit the afterburner, it is spectacular!


This winter we have been watching some of the big cargo planes fly 
over, and sometimes they are really low.  I am sure Rich had a great 
show!



The Blue Angels are in town (Charleston) for shows this weekend, and 
were practicing today and yesterday.  I was driving by the airport 
this afternoon and their C-130 took off and made several passes over 
the flight zone, I guess to check things out. I was headed over to a 
house that sits on the harbor and looks out where they will put on 
the show.  As I was pulling into the driveway the C-130 made a VERY 
low pass at about a 30deg right bank over the house, probably not 
more than 200ft high if that.  I didn't look quickly enough to see 
the pilot, but I'm sure I could have recognized him/her.  OK that 
was cool.  I got to the house, and in a few minutes here they came. 
They practiced for about an hour, made several low passes over the 
house (individual aircraft as well as formations of 4 and 6) headed 
out into and from the harbor as they did their thing.  One coming 
over headed to the harbor lit reheat and popped smoke just over the 
house WHAM!!! at maybe 2-300ft and started pulling up into a 
vertical rolling climb, while the other 3 were coming from the other 
compass points.  OH WOW!!!  I so wanted to be in one of those 
planes...I could have introduced myself to the pilots though, they 
were just right there...


Anyway, headed back to watch a show tomorrow, should be awesome. 
Weather is totally gorgeous and clear too.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Sure Why, But....

2010-04-16 Thread Curt Raymond
The Red cameras are cool but 5k is a marketing thing, theres no way to edit 
it...

Thats a show reel, it appears to have been taken at NAB 2010 which wrapped 
yesterday. Typically when the Red people say 1-2 months they mean 6-8 months. 
If they say 6 months it could be 2 years... They make amazing stuff though.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:32:47 -0700 (PDT)
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I want one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvFrqwOyeZw
Dan



  
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[MBZ] Is this a plague or what? Stupid sway bar mounts....

2010-04-16 Thread Peter Frederick
My cars seem to have a disease lately -- fractured sway bar mounts.   
I just put one from PeachParts on the 300D a couple months ago, and  
the blasted thing broke today on the way to work.  I'd used one off  
the wrecked car already (left side), and that one was only a year or  
two old then!  That's two on that car in six months, and a couple  
weeks ago my mother was complaining about noises from the front on  
her car, and sure enough it was the sway bar mount.


What is it with these things?  Very annoying, they are a pain to  
change and I don't think I should have to replace them so often!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] $250 300SE

2010-04-16 Thread Wonko the Sane
I rebuild computer for a hobby. I would not jump into an engine change.

Each of has his/her talents and limitations. I recognize mine.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 it comes with a good engine, just do the swap.


 Wonko the Sane wrote:

 Uh = first read, might have to look into that; real close.

 No = second read, dead engine, never mind.




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Re: [MBZ] OT Blue Angels

2010-04-16 Thread Wonko the Sane
Not to throw a damp blanket over the hype, but the Blue Angels are doing
nothing more than Flight School 101 maneuvers -- but in very expensive jets.
Very good show, lots of wow factor, but not doing anything anyone with a
jet license can't do. I tend to think that Blue Angels pilots are just
guys who are picked by the old-boys network to maybe an an admiral someday.

Sorry, folks, went to the same school as they did.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 We were walking on the beach at Kailua one day, and all the sudden the
 Thunderbirds were flashing over us, from inland over the beach and then over
 water.  They proceeded to practice the whole airshow, just for us.  The
 airshow was the next day at Hickam.  It is an awesome thing. (in the true
 sense of the word)  Some of their passes were low and slow enough we could
 see them, and I am sure they saw my jaw laying on the sand and the drool
 running out of my mouth!  They were really close to the Marine Corps Air
 Station, and I am sure that was not  an oversight by the air force brass.  A
 lot of our friends were USMC pilots and brass.  But the show was
 spectacular!  When they hit the afterburner, it is spectacular!

 This winter we have been watching some of the big cargo planes fly over,
 and sometimes they are really low.  I am sure Rich had a great show!



  The Blue Angels are in town (Charleston) for shows this weekend, and were
 practicing today and yesterday.  I was driving by the airport this afternoon
 and their C-130 took off and made several passes over the flight zone, I
 guess to check things out. I was headed over to a house that sits on the
 harbor and looks out where they will put on the show.  As I was pulling into
 the driveway the C-130 made a VERY low pass at about a 30deg right bank over
 the house, probably not more than 200ft high if that.  I didn't look quickly
 enough to see the pilot, but I'm sure I could have recognized him/her.  OK
 that was cool.  I got to the house, and in a few minutes here they came.
 They practiced for about an hour, made several low passes over the house
 (individual aircraft as well as formations of 4 and 6) headed out into and
 from the harbor as they did their thing.  One coming over headed to the
 harbor lit reheat and popped smoke just over the house WHAM!!! at maybe
 2-300ft and started pulling up into a vertical rolling climb, while the
 other 3 were coming from the other compass points.  OH WOW!!!  I so wanted
 to be in one of those planes...I could have introduced myself to the pilots
 though, they were just right there...

 Anyway, headed back to watch a show tomorrow, should be awesome. Weather
 is totally gorgeous and clear too.

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] A/B-26

2010-04-16 Thread RELNGSON
There I was having a stylishly late breakfast when I heard what sounded 
like round engines, getting closer. I hustled out onto the deck and to what did 
my wondering eyes should appear was an A-26, northbound at about 1500 ft. 
You can hear those two R-2800s a long way off.

it's probably visiting the Museum of Flight this week.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=91

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Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.....and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350

2010-04-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I know they used to but I dont know about anymore though.

LWB250 wrote:

Heck, I would just pull a Kaleb, buy them and turn around and put them on eBay.

People still pay stupid money for these.
Dan

--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage 
Cover/Dog Gate - $350
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 5:22 PM

It would probably double the value of my TD, so not really something I need.

--R

On 4/16/2010 4:54 PM, LWB250 wrote:
  

I would jump on this - the roll up cargo cover was a $1000 option when new.  I 
tried for years to find one when I had a 123 wagon

Dan



--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage 
Cover/Dog Gate - $350
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 9:37 AM

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1694687648.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Blue Angels

2010-04-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

oookkk

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Not to throw a damp blanket over the hype, but the Blue Angels are doing
nothing more than Flight School 101 maneuvers -- but in very expensive jets.
Very good show, lots of wow factor, but not doing anything anyone with a
jet license can't do. I tend to think that Blue Angels pilots are just
guys who are picked by the old-boys network to maybe an an admiral someday.

Sorry, folks, went to the same school as they did.

  


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85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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[MBZ] The E420. Again.

2010-04-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
Well, things have slowed down to a mild roar here, income taxes are
mostly done (waiting for our accountant who filed for an extension),
the weather has warmed up, and I had today off.

So, with all of that and the possibility of a move coming up, I thought
I'd get back to work on the '94 E420 I bought from Kaleb.

Having with great difficulty, but successfully, removed the power
steering pump, I started to work on that problem. Since it has had
Mobil 1 ATF in it and since things are hard to get to with the power
steering pump in, now is the best time to replace the hoses between
the pump and the power steering box and that is the right thing to do.
I previously got the hoses from Rusty so they are on hand.

I went back to Steve Nervig's index for the W124 CD files I got from
John Robbins and looked for inspiration. The best information I could
see was to remove the exhaust crossover pipe that connects to the left
cylinder bank and then remove the heat shield between the left manifold
and the steering box.

I disconnected the right end of the crossover pipe and then proceeded to
scope out the left end. I discovered that, not only are the pipe to
manifold bolts tight, there are nuts on the top ends of the bolts.

I have attached some pictures of the situation.

Picture 1 (E420.left.exh.manifold.conn.jpg) shows from the bottom the
flange and two bolts that join the left end of the crossover pipe
to the left manifold.

Picture 2 (E420.PS.Box.Hi.Press.Conn.jpg), also from the bottom, shows
the banjo fitting that attaches the high pressure line to the
steering box. This is what needs to come off (and go back in with
new crush washers!) to replace the high pressure line.

Picture 3 (E420.PS.Box+Heat.Shield.jpg), shows the view a little behind
Picture 2 of the power steering box and heat shield.

Picture 4 (E420.Heat.Shield.Front.Bolt.jpg), from the top, shows the
bolt that holds the front end of the heat shield on. It's REAL EASY
to get to.

Picture 5 (E420.Heat.Shield.Rear.Bolts.jpg), also from the top, shows the
two bolts that hold the rear end of the heat shield on. Actually, I'm
not sure what is there. They don't really look like nuts on bolts. In
addition, finding the other ends of those two fasteners seems like
quite a challenge itself.

As I told Shirley, This car is impossible! Like Loren, I'm crying,
Uncle! I'm going to put the car back together without replacing the
hoses (which I paid a pretty penny for and eventhough that's the right
thing to do).


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] A/B-26

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas
When I lived in Houston occasionally I would hear that same kind of 
growl, and say Beech D-18 and look up around, and in a few seconds a 
Beech D-18 would appear overhead.  Things like that sorta work their way 
into your brain at some reptilian level.


--R

On 4/16/2010 10:36 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

There I was having a stylishly late breakfast when I heard what sounded
like round engines, getting closer. I hustled out onto the deck and to what did
my wondering eyes should appear was an A-26, northbound at about 1500 ft.
You can hear those two R-2800s a long way off.

it's probably visiting the Museum of Flight this week.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=91

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] OT Blue Angels

2010-04-16 Thread Dieselhead
I never saw anything like that at Flight school 101.  I will grant 
that experienced fighter pilots can do the maneuvers.  Most of the 
time they are not allowed to do them anywhere near civilians.   It 
still is exciting to see the practice, more so than the real show.


The guy in Pensecola with the brass (was in charge or the Angels for 
a few years) said they take planes that are no longer suitable for 
military service, and strip them for the Blue Angels.  Like planes 
that landed too hard.  Yes, they were expensive, but after they have 
been pranged, they are not worth so much.





Not to throw a damp blanket over the hype, but the Blue Angels are doing
nothing more than Flight School 101 maneuvers -- but in very expensive jets.
Very good show, lots of wow factor, but not doing anything anyone with a
jet license can't do. I tend to think that Blue Angels pilots are just
guys who are picked by the old-boys network to maybe an an admiral someday.

Sorry, folks, went to the same school as they did.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Blue Angels

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas
Nice buzz kill there Lt.  I guess this guy is just another FS 101 
airplane driver   
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/apr/16/view-from-above/   
Methinks someone might be a tad bit jealous?


--R

On 4/16/2010 10:32 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:

Not to throw a damp blanket over the hype, but the Blue Angels are doing
nothing more than Flight School 101 maneuvers -- but in very expensive jets.
Very good show, lots of wow factor, but not doing anything anyone with a
jet license can't do. I tend to think that Blue Angels pilots are just
guys who are picked by the old-boys network to maybe an an admiral someday.

Sorry, folks, went to the same school as they did.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

We were walking on the beach at Kailua one day, and all the sudden the
Thunderbirds were flashing over us, from inland over the beach and then over
water.  They proceeded to practice the whole airshow, just for us.  The
airshow was the next day at Hickam.  It is an awesome thing. (in the true
sense of the word)  Some of their passes were low and slow enough we could
see them, and I am sure they saw my jaw laying on the sand and the drool
running out of my mouth!  They were really close to the Marine Corps Air
Station, and I am sure that was not  an oversight by the air force brass.  A
lot of our friends were USMC pilots and brass.  But the show was
spectacular!  When they hit the afterburner, it is spectacular!

This winter we have been watching some of the big cargo planes fly over,
and sometimes they are really low.  I am sure Rich had a great show!



  The Blue Angels are in town (Charleston) for shows this weekend, and were
 

practicing today and yesterday.  I was driving by the airport this afternoon
and their C-130 took off and made several passes over the flight zone, I
guess to check things out. I was headed over to a house that sits on the
harbor and looks out where they will put on the show.  As I was pulling into
the driveway the C-130 made a VERY low pass at about a 30deg right bank over
the house, probably not more than 200ft high if that.  I didn't look quickly
enough to see the pilot, but I'm sure I could have recognized him/her.  OK
that was cool.  I got to the house, and in a few minutes here they came.
They practiced for about an hour, made several low passes over the house
(individual aircraft as well as formations of 4 and 6) headed out into and
from the harbor as they did their thing.  One coming over headed to the
harbor lit reheat and popped smoke just over the house WHAM!!! at maybe
2-300ft and started pulling up into a vertical rolling climb, while the
other 3 were coming from the other compass points.  OH WOW!!!  I so wanted
to be in one of those planes...I could have introduced myself to the pilots
though, they were just right there...

Anyway, headed back to watch a show tomorrow, should be awesome. Weather
is totally gorgeous and clear too.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] A/B-26

2010-04-16 Thread Dieselhead
I spent the summer of '68 in the English Northlands.  One older lady 
there started talking about the war and one of the things she told 
me was that they could tell the difference between the German 
aircraft because the engines had a high pitch whine while the 
American planes had a low rumble.  They never had to look, they could 
tell by the sound.




There I was having a stylishly late breakfast when I heard what sounded
like round engines, getting closer. I hustled out onto the deck and 
to what did

my wondering eyes should appear was an A-26, northbound at about 1500 ft.
You can hear those two R-2800s a long way off.

it's probably visiting the Museum of Flight this week.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=91

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Re: [MBZ] A/B-26

2010-04-16 Thread Dieselhead
When I was a kid, I loved going to McCormick place (Chicago), because 
from there I could see Meggs Field on the lake.  Meggs field was 
Beech 18 city.  It was fun to watch them take off and land.  They 
sure were a workhorse.




When I lived in Houston occasionally I would hear that same kind of 
growl, and say Beech D-18 and look up around, and in a few seconds 
a Beech D-18 would appear overhead.  Things like that sorta work 
their way into your brain at some reptilian level.


--R

On 4/16/2010 10:36 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

There I was having a stylishly late breakfast when I heard what sounded
like round engines, getting closer. I hustled out onto the deck and 
to what did

my wondering eyes should appear was an A-26, northbound at about 1500 ft.
You can hear those two R-2800s a long way off.

it's probably visiting the Museum of Flight this week.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=91

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] A/B-26

2010-04-16 Thread Rich Thomas
I worked a coupla summers at the local airfield at a FBO, there was a 
guy there (he was like 6'8 and probably weighed 350lb -- he was 
absolutely huge, and had a little tiny wife who barely made 5', she 
would often ride with him.  He had to sorta pour himself into the left 
seat) who had a D-18, or flew it for someone else, hauling the mail 
overnight.  He would leave most evenings 8 or 9PM, get back the next 
morning 5 or 6AM.  When I was working I got to oil and fuel the plane.  
He would say, Check the fuel and fill the oil.  I would take a 5 gal 
can of oil up the wing and usually pour 2-3 gal into each engine, 
sometimes more.  It was loads of fun, esp since the previous 2-3 gal 
seemed to be coating the wing by the engine.  It was even more fun in 
the rain, water on the oil on the wing, me and a 5gal can of oil on a 
wing at about 30deg slope, trying to stay upright enough to lift the can 
and pour it in the little oil fill hole and keep the rain out of the 
funnel...  It was harder to do from a ladder behind the props at the 
front of the wing and engine, but sometimes that was the only way to get 
to the filler unless I wanted to wash the wing first so I could get some 
traction.  I think most of the oil got ejected in the first 10 seconds 
after starting the beasts, in clouds of black and white smoke.


--R

On 4/17/2010 12:34 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
When I was a kid, I loved going to McCormick place (Chicago), because 
from there I could see Meggs Field on the lake.  Meggs field was Beech 
18 city.  It was fun to watch them take off and land.  They sure were 
a workhorse.




When I lived in Houston occasionally I would hear that same kind of 
growl, and say Beech D-18 and look up around, and in a few seconds 
a Beech D-18 would appear overhead.  Things like that sorta work 
their way into your brain at some reptilian level.


--R

On 4/16/2010 10:36 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

There I was having a stylishly late breakfast when I heard what sounded
like round engines, getting closer. I hustled out onto the deck and 
to what did
my wondering eyes should appear was an A-26, northbound at about 
1500 ft.

You can hear those two R-2800s a long way off.

it's probably visiting the Museum of Flight this week.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=91

RLE
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