Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[Fmiser]

> andrew strasfogel wrote:

> Here is the deal.

> 1) removing it from my car so you could have it, and

> 2) removing a 1985 300TD wagon engine from a rusty 1985 300TD
>donor car (both with my assistance and tools).

> 3) would of course be to install the wagon engine in the now
>empty engine bay of my 300TD so I could reconnect the
>original self leveling system to make it a REAL wagon. :)
>Step 3 is for bonus points.

> Does this proposal interest anyone?  If so. I am flexible was
> to where the work could be done.  Could be done at your place,
> my garage (NW DC) or wherever I find the donor wagon.

Been away from the computer for a few days. Just getting
caught up.

I have tools.

I have a garage and a hoist.

I have parts cars.

I'm willing to help.

However, I think my place is a bit too far.  Missouri is a long
way to drive two cars from DC!

*sigh*

--   Philip


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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Bob Rentfro]

That's exactly what i'm talking about.

On Jun 21, 2010 8:44 PM, "Hendrik and Fay"  wrote:

If you are talking about begging then it happened in a McDonalds carpark in
Albequrque.

On Mon Jun 21 19:28 , Bob Rentfro  sent:


>Watch out for the native americans panhandling in the parking lots
>
>Bob R
>

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>
>Got even further & we ...
>>Did you get to Albuquerque today? Fi...

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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Hendrik and Fay]

If you are talking about begging then it happened in a McDonalds carpark in
Albequrque.

On Mon Jun 21 19:28 , Bob Rentfro  sent:

>Watch out for the native americans panhandling in the parking lots
>
>Bob R
>
>On Jun 21, 2010 7:26 PM, "Hendrik and Fay" heni...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>Got even further & we are in Gallup.
>Have heard about the fires,just like being home, I'm sure we will work it
>out
>getting around them.
>
>On Mon Jun 21 17:59 , Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com> sent:
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>>On Jun 21, 2010 5:47 PM, "OK Don" okd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] 126 fuel sender removal

[Dieselhead]

I've never had one out, but I thought on a 126 and 123 the sender 
could be accessed under the first aid cutout.



I think I just realized you have to remove the back seat on a 126 
to get to the fuel sender  Not so easy on a 560 with the power rear 
seat.  Crap.  I probably need to remove it and clean it up.


It's not under the first-aid box?  (Too many cars...)

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Re: [MBZ] 126 fuel sender removal

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:27:30 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> OK Don wrote:
> > Or just fill it every 100 miles or so ---
> 
> My Citation's fuel gauge died 3 years before the transmission died
> (probably open ground, it pegged the meter full time)
> For the first year or so, I could beat on the dash and get an accurate
> reading. For the last two years, I just filled it every 300 miles, no
> big deal.

That's what our Big Red Van ('89 Chevy Beauville) was like. When the fuel
pump died, I asked the guy at the shop to see if he could fix the sender.
He did. It's much nicer now.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Dieselhead]

Gallup has some great shops downtown for native (aborigine) 
artworkpottery, leather, silver, turquoise etc.


I can't remember the name of the one (smaller) shop that was really 
good.  The owner would be about 60 something now, appeared to be 
middle eastern descent.




Got even further & we are in Gallup.
Have heard about the fires,just like being home, I'm sure we will work it out
getting around them.

On Mon Jun 21 17:59 , Bob Rentfro  sent:


On Jun 21, 2010 5:47 PM, "OK Don" okd...@gmail.com> wrote:

Did you get to Albuquerque today? Find the "old town" area?
Are you watching the fires at Flagstaff on the news? It's right on your path
---
Bob - you are a ways South of the fires, aren't you?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

wrote:




 Hi Don

 Everyone is asleep & I should be to as it is late.
 We made it to Amarillo via route ...

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 126 fuel sender removal

[Jim Cathey]

I think I just realized you have to remove the back seat on a 126 to 
get to the fuel sender  Not so easy on a 560 with the power rear seat. 
 Crap.  I probably need to remove it and clean it up.


It's not under the first-aid box?  (Too many cars...)

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Re: [MBZ] Converted AC question

[Jim Cathey]

Speaking of the gauges and pressures - do you "set" the pressures at 
idle,
or 1500RPM, or what? Pressures seems to change dramatically as the 
engine is

rev'd up.


I believe the manual calls for 2000 RPM.

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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Front Seats

[Jim Cathey]

It clicks like slipping rears or something.


Exactly.  There are little cables that pull out of their
sockets, disconnecting the gear.

and (on the drivers seat), I seriously doubt if I took it apart, I 
would ever get a new cover over the old foam ...if the old foam did 
not denigrate


Foam?  Every MB seat I've dealt with has been springs, a bit of
horsehair (?) pad for shape, and the cover.

Now it the power unit is savable, new padding and foam would be rather 
difficult , right??


Not that bad.  Did my SL on one weekend.


What is interchangeable with these seats (from the 126 cars)?


Mechanically I think that anything 126 will fit.  (Not coupe.)
It's the electrical seat connections that varied a bit over
the years.


can a passenger seat be use as a drivers? or are they different?


Side-swapping is very common.


Can the arm rest be moved?


Generally, yes.

Is the rear cushion guts(pading) ( from a different year 126 passenger 
seat) usable in my drivers seat,  ?


Should be.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle

[Walt Zarnoch]

BFH + propane torch

Nuff said.

Walt

On Jun 21, 2010 10:41 PM, "Jim Cathey"  wrote:

> There is a slot in the hub where the key sits but I can't drive the
> remains of the old key out. ...
All the stress that sheared the key ended up swaging it
into place.  It only _looks_ like it's welded!  Well, that's
my take on it anyhow.  I bet it would chisel out of there,
though.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle

[Jim Cathey]

There is a slot in the hub where the key sits but I can't drive the
remains of the old key out.  It really acts like it's welded in, odd as
that seems.


All the stress that sheared the key ended up swaging it
into place.  It only _looks_ like it's welded!  Well, that's
my take on it anyhow.  I bet it would chisel out of there,
though.

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Re: [MBZ] Ozlahoma

[Hendrik and Fay]

No she still has a few years to go.

Hendrik
who has to type quick because the El Rancho hotel has no triple power points in
the room

On Sun Jun 20 11:09 , 'WILTON'  sent:

>BTW, has Georgia finished high school, yet?  If so, is she considering a 
>university, and, if so, where?
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Hendrik and Fay" heni...@ozemail.com.au>
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>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ozlahoma
>
>
>Thanks for that Don the Aussies didn't know that.
>
>The Aussies would like to thank Mountain Man, Loren & Arleen, Kaleb & Regina 
>&
>Don & Doris for taking the time to meet up with us.
>We have all really enjoyed the time that we have spent with you all & the
>hospitality that you have all shown us has been very much appreciated.
>
>We are all loving every minute of our journey across the US & will go home 
>with
>lasting memories of not only our travels but the special people we have met.
>
>Thank you all once again & if any of you or your family members ever get the
>chance to come to Oz our door is always open.
>
>Hendrik, Fay, Georgia & Zak
>
>On Sat Jun 19 20:53 , OK Don okd...@gmail.com> sent:
>
>>We were comparing cities - it turns out that Adelaide and OKC are actually
>>quite similar, except they have a beach, and we don't.
>>I was telling them how OKC was once the largest city in land area
>>[607.0 sq mi (1,572.1 km2)], seems Adelaide [1826.9 km² (705.4 sq mi)] is
>>larger now! The populations are close to the same, with Adelaide a bit more
>>populous.
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City
>>
>>We agreed that the governments of both countries are screwed up, and that
>>only driving old MB's can save civilization.
>>
>>-- 
>>OK Don
>>Introducing the world to the "church key"
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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Bob Rentfro]

Watch out for the native americans panhandling in the parking lots

Bob R

On Jun 21, 2010 7:26 PM, "Hendrik and Fay"  wrote:

Got even further & we are in Gallup.
Have heard about the fires,just like being home, I'm sure we will work it
out
getting around them.

On Mon Jun 21 17:59 , Bob Rentfro  sent:


>On Jun 21, 2010 5:47 PM, "OK Don" okd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Hendrik and Fay]

Got even further & we are in Gallup.
Have heard about the fires,just like being home, I'm sure we will work it out
getting around them.

On Mon Jun 21 17:59 , Bob Rentfro  sent:

>On Jun 21, 2010 5:47 PM, "OK Don" okd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Did you get to Albuquerque today? Find the "old town" area?
>Are you watching the fires at Flagstaff on the news? It's right on your path
>---
>Bob - you are a ways South of the fires, aren't you?
>On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
>>wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Don
>>
>> Everyone is asleep & I should be to as it is late.
>> We made it to Amarillo via route ...
>--
>OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] 560 trunk locked

[dave walton]

Try disconnecting battery for a bit to reset the pump? Unless of
course the battery and fuse is in the trunk :-(

-Dave Walton

On Monday, June 21, 2010, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> I was out working on the 560 a little yesterday and noticed the locks had 
> locked themselves.  I have noticed it seems to do this for some strange 
> reason when sitting.  likely I did not have the key in it.  The first time it 
> did it while sitting I did have the key in it and it locked, had to order a 
> new key from Rusty.  Anyway, now the central locking does not seem to want to 
> unlock and the trunk is locked.  Trouble is, the lock on the trunk appears 
> different than the others and the key will not unlock it.  Any ideas on 
> unlocking it without the key?  Could I apply vacuum somewhere to unlock it 
> that way?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 560 trunk locked

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I will check under the carpets for vacuum lines, I knew on the old cars 
they ran under there and you could tap into them but I had never looked 
at a 126 before for that.


Peter Frederick wrote:

It's a two way pump (but the pump is in the trunk.).

Find one of the lines under the carpet and apply pressure or vaccum 
until the locks cycle open and the trunk will be unlocked.


Replace the pump, it's probably defective and operating when it's not 
supposed to.  Also check for loose wires or a bad switch in one of the 
doors.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle

[Allan Streib]

Mitch Haley  writes:

> Allan Streib wrote:
>> I removed the rear wheels and found that the woodruff key that locks the 
>> wheel hub to the
>> axle were sheared off on one side. 
>
> Oh, goody, I called that one in my first message on Thursday...

Yeah I popped the little cap off the hub and looked at the end of the
axle but as luck would have it I was not looking at the side that had
the broken key... needed to check both sides.  Oh well... actually the
transaxle needed an oil change and I discovered a broken U bolt on one
side as well, so it's not all wasted effort.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle

[Allan Streib]

Curt Raymond  writes:

> There isn't just a keyway through the wheel? Can't just get a piece of
> key at the hardware store and drive it through?

There is a slot in the hub where the key sits but I can't drive the
remains of the old key out.  It really acts like it's welded in, odd as
that seems.

I guess I could grind another notch in the hub though, and install a new
key that way.

I also thought about drilling a hole through the hub and axle and
pinning or bolting the wheel to the hub but I don't know how hard the
axles are.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Front Seats

[George Larribeau]

If I still lived in San Francisco the condition of the seats might be 
different (and most likely would not care about maintaining the AC or 
getting R12 at the crack house ..or its ebay equivalent ) The 100 plus 
summer days is a killer. the car lives outside in the sun. I drive it 
about 60 miles a day for work. I have kept its appearance respectable. I 
maintain it. It had 160K when I got it, It currently has 250K. I plan on 
at leas another 100K.


My original plan was the seat covers ...
The passenger seat might be saved by this, very likely would also need 
the seat frame..


The drivers seat is another story
Needs the seat frame (springs), the power unit is somehow damaged (a 
size large tire shop employee ran it into the stops, it sort of 
recovered, then I had some paint work and it never went forward again, 
with out getting out of the car and pushing forcefully wile the switch 
is engaged It clicks like slipping rears or something.
and (on the drivers seat), I seriously doubt if I took it apart, I would 
ever get a new cover over the old foam ...if the old foam did not denigrate


Now it the power unit is savable, new padding and foam would be rather 
difficult , right??


Now as to other years and models of the 126 car, (the BMW / other seat 
is the worst case back up plan). What is interchangeable with these 
seats (from the 126 cars)?

can a passenger seat be use as a drivers? or are they different?
Can the arm rest be moved?
Is the rear cushion guts(pading) ( from a different year 126 passenger 
seat) usable in my drivers seat,  ?


I don't need the memory feature but need the basic power to work ( be 
adjustable).


George Larribeau
Dallas, Texas



Jim Cathey wrote:

The Front seats in my 300SD are past repair ...(trust me on this)
the Texas summers have killed them and the drivers seat has bad power 
motor (striped gear?)


You could consider re-covering them, Rusty sells the covers.
The gears may not be stripped, sometimes the cables pull out
of their sockets.  I'm not up on which models interchange.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle

[Curt Raymond]

You got it before me but I got it also!

I'm reasonably sure I can get a wheel for you if you need. If you wanted to 
take a ride to northern Maine I'm absolutely sure I could get you a pair of 
wheels...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:11:23 -0400
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Allan Streib 
wrote:
> I removed the rear wheels and found that the woodruff key
 that locks the wheel hub to the
> axle were sheared off on one 
side. 

Oh, goody, I called that one in my first message on 
Thursday...

Mitch Haley wrote:
 >
 > If it sort of 
wants to go, that implies that it does shift, so I'd first
 > look
 at the input shaft/pulley and the drive axles/hubs for something
 
> stripped or sheared.
 >
 > Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Bob Rentfro]

Yes...I'm way south of there. A friend who lives up there has the air tanker
helicoptors filling their huge water bucket thingys from his lake.
Nasty stuff since it's so freaking windy up there.

Bob R

On Jun 21, 2010 5:47 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:

Did you get to Albuquerque today? Find the "old town" area?
Are you watching the fires at Flagstaff on the news? It's right on your path
---
Bob - you are a ways South of the fires, aren't you?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:


> Hi Don
>
> Everyone is asleep & I should be to as it is late.
> We made it to Amarillo via route ...
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Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work

[Curt Raymond]

Ehh, whatever. I did like the car, my wife hated it though. I'd have liked the 
45mpg.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:06:15 -0500
From: OK Don 
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I think you're in the better 
situation right now --- let's see, MB vs. VW
--  hm.

On 
Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Curt Raymond 
 wrote:

> I should either have had it shipped or not brought 
my wife with me to get
> it. In either case I'd be driving it now 
rather than futzing with the red
> 190D.
>
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle

[Curt Raymond]

There isn't just a keyway through the wheel? Can't just get a piece of key at 
the hardware store and drive it through?

A friend of mine had a mower that the keyway rotted off the axle, I was mowing 
his lawn and ended up rolling down a big hill backwards when that wheel lost 
all traction... I ended up using about 4" of key to get enough connection to 
make it work...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:04:20 -0400
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Looks like my problem is the 
transaxle after all; I removed the rear
wheels and found that the 
woodruff key that locks the wheel hub to the
axle were sheared off on
 one side.  The other side doesn't look much
better off.

Problem
 is the keys seem to be welded to the inside of the hub.  I can't
drive
 the remains out because the axle shaft is only about 5/8" diameter
so
 I can't really get anything inside the hub, nor do I see any good way
to
 weld in new keys even if I could.

I'm tempted to just weld the 
hubs to the axles.  If I ever need to
remove them I can grind off the
 welds.




Allan

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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Bob Rentfro]

On Jun 21, 2010 5:47 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:

Did you get to Albuquerque today? Find the "old town" area?
Are you watching the fires at Flagstaff on the news? It's right on your path
---
Bob - you are a ways South of the fires, aren't you?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:


> Hi Don
>
> Everyone is asleep & I should be to as it is late.
> We made it to Amarillo via route ...
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Re: [MBZ] rear axle bearings 84 300D 291,000 miles

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

I followed the DIY @ pp or bw cant remember which. Do yourself a favor 
and get an extra crush washer.


-Rolf

Mike Esh wrote:
Is there a good DIY article out there on how to replace the rear 
(permanent bearings) on an 84 300D?  Could/should axles be switched 
from side to side at this time?

Thanks,
Mike
Whitehall, MI

P.S. Still working on determining loss of diesel prime on same car.  
Slowly changing hoses as time allows.  Last effort will be changing 
manual pump and seal.  Currently has new style and fuel is not leaking 
anywhere that I can see.



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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[OK Don]

Did you get to Albuquerque today? Find the "old town" area?
Are you watching the fires at Flagstaff on the news? It's right on your path
---
Bob - you are a ways South of the fires, aren't you?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

> Hi Don
>
> Everyone is asleep & I should be to as it is late.
> We made it to Amarillo via route 66.
> It is sad to see how many towns are like ghost towns on the route - all in
> the
> name of progress.
> Stopped at the Route 66 national museum, that was real good.
>
> We are staying at the Big Texan Motel & went to the Big Texan Steakhouse
> for dinner.
> We loved it, that was as cowboy/western as you could get.
> A recently serving marine tried the 72oz steak challenge & he was very
> close to
> finishing, but it wasn't enough to get the meal for free.
>
> Off to buy some cowboy/western souvenirs for the family then heading to
> Alberqurque.
> It is alot of driving but that is what us Aussies are best at.
>
> Thanks once again for your hospitality
>
> Fay
>

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Re: [MBZ] Converted AC question

[Peter Frederick]

Replace the compressor before if fills the system with shrapnel -- if  
it's knocking, you can TRY adding oil by removing it, dumping out  
what's in it, and adding the correct amount (128 mL if i remember  
correctly, but check first).  Use only PAG oil with that system, the  
compressor does NOT like ester oils unless it's also full of  
hydrocarbon oil.


I would flush as well as possible, too.  1:1 mixture of dry methanol  
and hexane, or buy the stuff at the auto parts store.  Tons of black  
crap will come out of the condenser, which is good.  If there is any  
"aluminum paint" in there, install a filter in the suction hose or  
the next compressor will die really fast.


Replace all the 0-rings while you are at it and yank the rad -- there  
will be a huge collection of dead bugs and crap between the condenser  
and radiator that needs to go.  If not, you will have poor  
performance at idle.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 560 trunk locked

[Peter Frederick]

It's a two way pump (but the pump is in the trunk.).

Find one of the lines under the carpet and apply pressure or vaccum  
until the locks cycle open and the trunk will be unlocked.


Replace the pump, it's probably defective and operating when it's not  
supposed to.  Also check for loose wires or a bad switch in one of  
the doors.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 126 fuel sender removal

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:

Or just fill it every 100 miles or so ---


My Citation's fuel gauge died 3 years before the transmission died (probably 
open ground, it pegged the meter full time)

For the first year or so, I could beat on the dash and get an accurate reading.
For the last two years, I just filled it every 300 miles, no big deal.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 126 fuel sender removal

[OK Don]

Or just fill it every 100 miles or so ---

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> I think I just realized you have to remove the back seat on a 126 to get to
> the fuel sender  Not so easy on a 560 with the power rear seat.  Crap.  I
> probably need to remove it and clean it up.
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D,
> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro
> manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
>

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Re: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this

[OK Don]

It's the space shuttle on top of the concord that kills it for me ---

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

> No somebody REALLY needs this. Works better than syrup of ipecac.
>
> <
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Art-Car-Winner-/140418366386?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item20b1963bb2
> >
>
> Rick




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Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:

I removed the rear wheels and found that the woodruff key that locks the wheel 
hub to the
axle were sheared off on one side. 


Oh, goody, I called that one in my first message on Thursday...

Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> If it sort of wants to go, that implies that it does shift, so I'd first
> look at the input shaft/pulley and the drive axles/hubs for something
> stripped or sheared.
>
> Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Converted AC question

[OK Don]

Speaking of the gauges and pressures - do you "set" the pressures at idle,
or 1500RPM, or what? Pressures seems to change dramatically as the engine is
rev'd up.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I actually did not hook up the gauges (too lazy to get them out) and just
> put the can/hose/gauge on and dumped in the juice until it showed blue on
> the can gauge.  I thought about getting them out, but then I realized I
> wouldn't know the proper pressures anyway, so it would be kind of a
> misplaced effort.  I did get cool air though, half comfy even on these hot
> days.
>
> You know what they would be (remembering it is 134)?
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/21/2010 3:00 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
> wrote:
>
>> Replacing lost oil is a good thing, and a little too much oil will
>> simply rob you of some cooling efficiency (i.e. better to have too much
>> than too little).
>>
>> What kind of pressures did you get?
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:47 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] Converted AC question
>>
>> The AC on the 84 300SD was converted at some point to R134, looks like
>> it was a proper job (whatever that means).  It was not blowing much cool
>> so I put 1.5 cans of 134 in it, and it is blowing pretty cool now on a
>> 90F day.  But the compressor is making Unhappy Noises, kind of a
>> graunching sound at lower revs, and the belt looks like it was really
>> being strained -- it is pretty tight when not running, but the "free"
>> side is deflecting and flopping quite a bit while running, and it
>> sounded like it was squeaking a bit suggesting a heavy load on it at the
>> compressor.  The belt looks a little frayed, so I guess replacing it
>> soon would be prudent anyway.  Looks like there might be some AC oil on
>> the hoses down near it, and on the hoses going into the condenser,
>> though it is hard to tell if it is regular oil or AC stuff, but since it
>> is on those hoses mostly I am thinking AC oil.  Should I get a can of
>> refrigerant with some oil in it, shoot some of that in too, just to see
>> if it makes the compressor happier?  Or is the compressor nearing Fail
>> status?  (Or both?)
>>
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work

[OK Don]

I think you're in the better situation right now --- let's see, MB vs. VW
--  hm.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I should either have had it shipped or not brought my wife with me to get
> it. In either case I'd be driving it now rather than futzing with the red
> 190D.
>
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[OK Don]

Nothing but the best for our freinds ---

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

> OK Don was kind enough to lend us one his Mercs, see attached picture.
>
> Hendrik
> who is doing route 66 the slow way
>
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Re: [MBZ] NOW Walt's used Transmission

[Walt Zarnoch]

Found the dash in the pile o parts today, says 106K miles on the odometer.
Seems believeable since an old guy owned it since new, then sold it to a
college student, he graduated law school and gave it to his brother, who was
sideswiped by someone, totaling the drivers side of the body. I couldn't
help looking up history and calling/emailing when I pulled the
trans/motor/fun stuff, since there was a pack of developed negatives under
the seat I thought he might want.

In any case, the tranny should be solid and prime.

Walt, who is about to get some brake line for his other truck...

On Jun 18, 2010 5:03 PM, "Walt Zarnoch"  wrote:

So ~ 11# of fluid then.

Walt


>
> On Jun 18, 2010 4:58 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>
> Probably around 1.7 lb./liter

>
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Walt Zarnoch 
wrote:
>
> Probably, what's the...


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Re: [MBZ] OT: lawn mower transaxle

[Allan Streib]

Looks like my problem is the transaxle after all; I removed the rear
wheels and found that the woodruff key that locks the wheel hub to the
axle were sheared off on one side.  The other side doesn't look much
better off.

Problem is the keys seem to be welded to the inside of the hub.  I can't
drive the remains out because the axle shaft is only about 5/8" diameter
so I can't really get anything inside the hub, nor do I see any good way
to weld in new keys even if I could.

I'm tempted to just weld the hubs to the axles.  If I ever need to
remove them I can grind off the welds.




Allan

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[MBZ] 560 trunk locked

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I was out working on the 560 a little yesterday and noticed the locks 
had locked themselves.  I have noticed it seems to do this for some 
strange reason when sitting.  likely I did not have the key in it.  The 
first time it did it while sitting I did have the key in it and it 
locked, had to order a new key from Rusty.  Anyway, now the central 
locking does not seem to want to unlock and the trunk is locked.  
Trouble is, the lock on the trunk appears different than the others and 
the key will not unlock it.  Any ideas on unlocking it without the key?  
Could I apply vacuum somewhere to unlock it that way?


--
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[MBZ] 126 fuel sender removal

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I think I just realized you have to remove the back seat on a 126 to 
get to the fuel sender  Not so easy on a 560 with the power rear seat.  
Crap.  I probably need to remove it and clean it up. 


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91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this

[WILTON]

So, is it a '96, or is it a '93 - not that it really makes much difference.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 5:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this



Be the first on your block!

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1801936274.html

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Re: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this

[WILTON]

Well, I guess he got some enjoyment from the exercise - some spent it on 
gambling, some spend it on liquor, some spend it on "fast" women, some spend 
it on other foolishness, some just spend it.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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That must be just for WILTON.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this


No somebody REALLY needs this. Works better than syrup of ipecac.



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Subject: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this


Be the first on your block!

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1801936274.html

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Re: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this

[R A Bennell]

That must be just for WILTON.

Randy

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No somebody REALLY needs this. Works better than syrup of ipecac.



Rick
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Subject: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this

> Be the first on your block!
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> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1801936274.html
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Re: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this

[Rick Knoble]

No somebody REALLY needs this. Works better than syrup of ipecac.



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Subject: [MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this


Be the first on your block!

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1801936274.html

--R

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[MBZ] Someone REALLY needs this

[Rich Thomas]

Be the first on your block!

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1801936274.html

--R

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[MBZ] Changing hoses etc.

[R A Bennell]

My 115 300D finally got a bit of attention this past weekend. The vent hoses on 
the fuel tank would seep and drip
when the tank was full. I let it run down to where the low fuel light was on 
and then changed out the hoses - all
of them at the tank end. Got a bit of a shower in diesel a couple of times. 
Mostly in trying to change the pickup
and return lines. Also changed the screen in the bottom of the tank but not too 
bad - mostly just on my arm above
my blue rubber gloves. Probably did not need to change the screen as it looked 
about as clean as the new one. It
was old enough that the base on it was brass whereas, the new one is aluminum - 
at least I assume that means it has
been in there a while. Did not have the right allen socket so got a bolt that 
fit and a couple of nuts and used
that. It was not all that tight. Only about a gallon and a half of fuel came 
out. All looked pretty clean. A
benefit of living in the cold north I suppose given what I hear you folks talk 
about on here. The hardest part was
changing out the vent hoses as the clamps are above the lip on the tank and the 
swaybar is in the way. A long
screwdriver did the trick. The new rubber hose seemed a bit thicker than the 
old braided stuff so the old clamps
were too tight and the new gear clamps I got may be slightly large but there 
does not appear to be any stress on
those hoses so it should be alright.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Converted AC question

[Rich Thomas]

I actually did not hook up the gauges (too lazy to get them out) and 
just put the can/hose/gauge on and dumped in the juice until it showed 
blue on the can gauge.  I thought about getting them out, but then I 
realized I wouldn't know the proper pressures anyway, so it would be 
kind of a misplaced effort.  I did get cool air though, half comfy even 
on these hot days.


You know what they would be (remembering it is 134)?

--R

On 6/21/2010 3:00 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
wrote:

Replacing lost oil is a good thing, and a little too much oil will
simply rob you of some cooling efficiency (i.e. better to have too much
than too little).

What kind of pressures did you get?

-Max

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:47 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Converted AC question

The AC on the 84 300SD was converted at some point to R134, looks like
it was a proper job (whatever that means).  It was not blowing much cool
so I put 1.5 cans of 134 in it, and it is blowing pretty cool now on a
90F day.  But the compressor is making Unhappy Noises, kind of a
graunching sound at lower revs, and the belt looks like it was really
being strained -- it is pretty tight when not running, but the "free"
side is deflecting and flopping quite a bit while running, and it
sounded like it was squeaking a bit suggesting a heavy load on it at the
compressor.  The belt looks a little frayed, so I guess replacing it
soon would be prudent anyway.  Looks like there might be some AC oil on
the hoses down near it, and on the hoses going into the condenser,
though it is hard to tell if it is regular oil or AC stuff, but since it
is on those hoses mostly I am thinking AC oil.  Should I get a can of
refrigerant with some oil in it, shoot some of that in too, just to see
if it makes the compressor happier?  Or is the compressor nearing Fail
status?  (Or both?)

--R

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[MBZ] rear axle bearings 84 300D 291,000 miles

[Mike Esh]

Is there a good DIY article out there on how to replace the rear  
(permanent bearings) on an 84 300D?  Could/should axles be switched  
from side to side at this time?

Thanks,
Mike
Whitehall, MI

P.S. Still working on determining loss of diesel prime on same car.   
Slowly changing hoses as time allows.  Last effort will be changing  
manual pump and seal.  Currently has new style and fuel is not leaking  
anywhere that I can see.



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Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[andrew strasfogel]

Ouch.  There goes my fly-around option to WInnipeg.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
>> How far is that from Detroit?
>>
>
> Hamilton is about 300km from Detroit and 110km from Buffalo.
> Niagara Falls would be the closest US city.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Converted AC question

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Replacing lost oil is a good thing, and a little too much oil will
simply rob you of some cooling efficiency (i.e. better to have too much
than too little).

What kind of pressures did you get?

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Converted AC question

The AC on the 84 300SD was converted at some point to R134, looks like
it was a proper job (whatever that means).  It was not blowing much cool
so I put 1.5 cans of 134 in it, and it is blowing pretty cool now on a
90F day.  But the compressor is making Unhappy Noises, kind of a
graunching sound at lower revs, and the belt looks like it was really
being strained -- it is pretty tight when not running, but the "free" 
side is deflecting and flopping quite a bit while running, and it
sounded like it was squeaking a bit suggesting a heavy load on it at the
compressor.  The belt looks a little frayed, so I guess replacing it
soon would be prudent anyway.  Looks like there might be some AC oil on
the hoses down near it, and on the hoses going into the condenser,
though it is hard to tell if it is regular oil or AC stuff, but since it
is on those hoses mostly I am thinking AC oil.  Should I get a can of
refrigerant with some oil in it, shoot some of that in too, just to see
if it makes the compressor happier?  Or is the compressor nearing Fail
status?  (Or both?)

--R

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[MBZ] Converted AC question

[Rich Thomas]

The AC on the 84 300SD was converted at some point to R134, looks like 
it was a proper job (whatever that means).  It was not blowing much cool 
so I put 1.5 cans of 134 in it, and it is blowing pretty cool now on a 
90F day.  But the compressor is making Unhappy Noises, kind of a 
graunching sound at lower revs, and the belt looks like it was really 
being strained -- it is pretty tight when not running, but the "free" 
side is deflecting and flopping quite a bit while running, and it 
sounded like it was squeaking a bit suggesting a heavy load on it at the 
compressor.  The belt looks a little frayed, so I guess replacing it 
soon would be prudent anyway.  Looks like there might be some AC oil on 
the hoses down near it, and on the hoses going into the condenser, 
though it is hard to tell if it is regular oil or AC stuff, but since it 
is on those hoses mostly I am thinking AC oil.  Should I get a can of 
refrigerant with some oil in it, shoot some of that in too, just to see 
if it makes the compressor happier?  Or is the compressor nearing Fail 
status?  (Or both?)


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
How far is that from Detroit? 


Hamilton is about 300km from Detroit and 110km from Buffalo.
Niagara Falls would be the closest US city.

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Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[andrew strasfogel]

How far is that from Detroit?  Is there a shuttle?  My sense of Canadian
geography is pretty woeful.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> I think you need to get to Hamilton.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:36 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
>
>
> What Westjet airport would be across the river  from Detroit??
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:51 AM, R A Bennell  wrote:
>
> > Can you get to somewhere like Detroit reasonably? Come accross the border
> > and then fly Westjet to Wpg.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:12 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
> >
> >
> > Randy,
> >
> > You are my first real offer - thanks and congratulations!
> >
> > It's gotten so expensive to fly anywhere in Canada from D.C. that we're
> > contemplating meeting with the  BIL and family in Minneapolis this
> summer.
> >  How sad is that!?!?  I will so miss the Forks market and trips to
> Brandon
> > et al... ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:46 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Andrew
> > >
> > > Bring them both to Winnipeg and my son Tom and I will give it a go. We
> > > pulled the engine from the big boat last
> > > weekend in no time at all. I worked on it for a bit on Saturday
> afternoon
> > > and he worked on it a bit on Sunday
> > > morning. Dropped it in the truck and brought it back to the city. Have
> > yet
> > > to tear into it and find out what went
> > > wrong but maybe this weekend.
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> > > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 2:28 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Subject: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is the deal.
> > >
> > > I have a great 1985 300D turbo diesel engine in my 85 300TD wagon (282
> K
> > > miles) I would love to give away to someone on this list in exchange
> for
> > > expertise/labor.  The labor would involve 1) removing it from my car so
> > you
> > > could have it, and 2) removing a 1985 300TD wagon engine from a rusty
> > 1985
> > > 300TD donor car (both with my assistance and tools).  Part 3 would of
> > > course
> > > be to install the wagon engine in the now empty engine bay of my 300TD
> so
> > I
> > > could reconnect the original self levelling system to make it a REAL
> > wagon.
> > > :)  Step 3 is for bonus points.
> > >
> > > Does this proposal interest anyone?  If so. I am flexible was to where
> > the
> > > work could be done.  Could be done at your place, my garage (NW DC) or
> > > wherever I find the donor wagon.
> > >
> > > I need the 85 wagon engine since the car is a genune 1985 with all the
> > good
> > > stuff offered in the last model year of this enduring classic.
> > >
> > > SWMBO thinks I am crazy and I am not goring to argue.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > > 1983 300TD and 1985 quasi 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[R A Bennell]

I think you need to get to Hamilton.

Randy

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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)


What Westjet airport would be across the river  from Detroit??

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:51 AM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> Can you get to somewhere like Detroit reasonably? Come accross the border
> and then fly Westjet to Wpg.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:12 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
>
>
> Randy,
>
> You are my first real offer - thanks and congratulations!
>
> It's gotten so expensive to fly anywhere in Canada from D.C. that we're
> contemplating meeting with the  BIL and family in Minneapolis this summer.
>  How sad is that!?!?  I will so miss the Forks market and trips to Brandon
> et al... ;)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:46 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:
>
> > Hey Andrew
> >
> > Bring them both to Winnipeg and my son Tom and I will give it a go. We
> > pulled the engine from the big boat last
> > weekend in no time at all. I worked on it for a bit on Saturday afternoon
> > and he worked on it a bit on Sunday
> > morning. Dropped it in the truck and brought it back to the city. Have
> yet
> > to tear into it and find out what went
> > wrong but maybe this weekend.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 2:28 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
> >
> >
> > Here is the deal.
> >
> > I have a great 1985 300D turbo diesel engine in my 85 300TD wagon (282 K
> > miles) I would love to give away to someone on this list in exchange for
> > expertise/labor.  The labor would involve 1) removing it from my car so
> you
> > could have it, and 2) removing a 1985 300TD wagon engine from a rusty
> 1985
> > 300TD donor car (both with my assistance and tools).  Part 3 would of
> > course
> > be to install the wagon engine in the now empty engine bay of my 300TD so
> I
> > could reconnect the original self levelling system to make it a REAL
> wagon.
> > :)  Step 3 is for bonus points.
> >
> > Does this proposal interest anyone?  If so. I am flexible was to where
> the
> > work could be done.  Could be done at your place, my garage (NW DC) or
> > wherever I find the donor wagon.
> >
> > I need the 85 wagon engine since the car is a genune 1985 with all the
> good
> > stuff offered in the last model year of this enduring classic.
> >
> > SWMBO thinks I am crazy and I am not goring to argue.
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 300TD and 1985 quasi 300TD
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[MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[tom tomscat]

I believe that is an early model that comes with a kick starter, doesn't it?

 

;)

 

Tom Schuch

1975 W115 300D

and a half dozen BMWs

 

Message: 10
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:29:28 +0800
From: Hendrik and Fay 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...
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OK Don was kind enough to lend us one his Mercs, see attached picture.
 
Hendrik
who is doing route 66 the slow way
 
On Sun Jun 20 6:43 , 'WILTON'  sent:
 
>You driving, flying? What's your mode of travel now?
>
>Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work

[Curt Raymond]

I should either have had it shipped or not brought my wife with me to get it. 
In either case I'd be driving it now rather than futzing with the red 190D.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:47:50 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work
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damn, I sure do miss that Quantum, sort of.  Kind of wish Iwould have 
kept it a while.  Oh well.

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Two years ago (my how time flies) when I was trying to get LT Don's Quantum 
> it was ~$600 to ship from IA to MA...
>
> -Curt
>
>   

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 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] '84 190D heater valve

[Curt Raymond]

You don't need to take out the battery, just take the grill thats over the 
wiper motor off, its right there plain as day.

Now I need to find out why it isn't getting vacuum.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:41:16 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 190D heater valve
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The heater valve is behind the battery, and is exactly as pictured.  You 
have to remove the battery, then the cover behind the battery, then the 
cover to the side of that, and maybe even the cover under the wiper 
blades and its right there.  The 2nd pic is the aux water pump.

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Other cars got mono-valves 201s don't they have heater valves.
>
>
I get all heat all the time which I had on my '84 my Indy replaced the
heater valve and all was well. So I asked Rusty for "heater valve
W0133-1630748" which is what World Pac told me I needed.
> What I got was a vacuum actuated heater valve: 
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4717172083_acf8022cb7.jpg which is 
> exactly what is pictured on WorldPac when you look it up...
>
> I can't find one of those on my car nor anything even remotely like it. What 
> I do find is: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4717175527_48d9e2dc42.jpg 
> which I think is an electro-magnetic heater valve...
>
>
So anyway I think I've got a good electro-magnetic heater valve on my
parts car (which I still need to go get) but my question is what is the
other thing actually for?
>
> -Curt 


  
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Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[andrew strasfogel]

What Westjet airport would be across the river  from Detroit??

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:51 AM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> Can you get to somewhere like Detroit reasonably? Come accross the border
> and then fly Westjet to Wpg.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:12 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
>
>
> Randy,
>
> You are my first real offer - thanks and congratulations!
>
> It's gotten so expensive to fly anywhere in Canada from D.C. that we're
> contemplating meeting with the  BIL and family in Minneapolis this summer.
>  How sad is that!?!?  I will so miss the Forks market and trips to Brandon
> et al... ;)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:46 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:
>
> > Hey Andrew
> >
> > Bring them both to Winnipeg and my son Tom and I will give it a go. We
> > pulled the engine from the big boat last
> > weekend in no time at all. I worked on it for a bit on Saturday afternoon
> > and he worked on it a bit on Sunday
> > morning. Dropped it in the truck and brought it back to the city. Have
> yet
> > to tear into it and find out what went
> > wrong but maybe this weekend.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 2:28 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
> >
> >
> > Here is the deal.
> >
> > I have a great 1985 300D turbo diesel engine in my 85 300TD wagon (282 K
> > miles) I would love to give away to someone on this list in exchange for
> > expertise/labor.  The labor would involve 1) removing it from my car so
> you
> > could have it, and 2) removing a 1985 300TD wagon engine from a rusty
> 1985
> > 300TD donor car (both with my assistance and tools).  Part 3 would of
> > course
> > be to install the wagon engine in the now empty engine bay of my 300TD so
> I
> > could reconnect the original self levelling system to make it a REAL
> wagon.
> > :)  Step 3 is for bonus points.
> >
> > Does this proposal interest anyone?  If so. I am flexible was to where
> the
> > work could be done.  Could be done at your place, my garage (NW DC) or
> > wherever I find the donor wagon.
> >
> > I need the 85 wagon engine since the car is a genune 1985 with all the
> good
> > stuff offered in the last model year of this enduring classic.
> >
> > SWMBO thinks I am crazy and I am not goring to argue.
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 300TD and 1985 quasi 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[andrew strasfogel]

What  about Bob is one of my all time favorite movies, until it goes off the
deep end...

Another is the first 1/3 of Stepbrothers with Will Ferrell and John C.
Riley.  Utterly hilarious.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:52 AM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> Watch the movie "What about Bob?"
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:36 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
>
>
> I am not a psychiatrist but I would go for the adventure.
>
> Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> Wickford RI 02852
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:06 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
>
> Curt.
> I'm always up for a road trip. You may need a psychiatrist after a day
> or two with me though.
> Har-de-har-har!
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
>
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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Max,
I already told him he could store it here-about an hour & 1/2 away. My wife
likes that idea-means it covers up a driveway  space that I might otherwise
fill.
Dwight

Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 7:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

Fred, never let a good crisis go to waste!  Obvious to me that you need
ANOTHER donor car!

"Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car
for $200.  Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in name
of friends]?"

-Max 

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Re: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?

[R A Bennell]

Seems odd. One would think that it should have just ruined some bearings and 
started to knock rather than seizing
up.

Randy

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Bob Rentfro
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?


I would say so. After removing the valve cover, everything up top looks good
but I cannot turn the engine over at all. All the force I care to muster
with a 24" breaker barnada.

Bob R

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:53 AM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> So, I am responding before reading the rest of the posts below, but have
> you confirmed it is toast?
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Bob Rentfro
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 10:01 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?
>
>
>  Let me begin by saying I will give my broken W123 to anyone who wants to
> come and get it. But, since all y'all live so far away from me, who is the
> best and most reputable place to donate a broke car to?
>
> Bob R
> Still grieving over my loss
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?

[Bob Rentfro]

I would say so. After removing the valve cover, everything up top looks good
but I cannot turn the engine over at all. All the force I care to muster
with a 24" breaker barnada.

Bob R

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:53 AM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> So, I am responding before reading the rest of the posts below, but have
> you confirmed it is toast?
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Bob Rentfro
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 10:01 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?
>
>
>  Let me begin by saying I will give my broken W123 to anyone who wants to
> come and get it. But, since all y'all live so far away from me, who is the
> best and most reputable place to donate a broke car to?
>
> Bob R
> Still grieving over my loss
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?

[R A Bennell]

So, I am responding before reading the rest of the posts below, but have you 
confirmed it is toast?

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Bob Rentfro
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 10:01 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?


Let me begin by saying I will give my broken W123 to anyone who wants to
come and get it. But, since all y'all live so far away from me, who is the
best and most reputable place to donate a broke car to?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[R A Bennell]

Watch the movie "What about Bob?"

Randy

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Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)


I am not a psychiatrist but I would go for the adventure. 

Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

Curt.
I'm always up for a road trip. You may need a psychiatrist after a day 
or two with me though.
Har-de-har-har!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

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Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)

[R A Bennell]

Can you get to somewhere like Detroit reasonably? Come accross the border and 
then fly Westjet to Wpg. 

Randy

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Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)


Randy,

You are my first real offer - thanks and congratulations!

It's gotten so expensive to fly anywhere in Canada from D.C. that we're
contemplating meeting with the  BIL and family in Minneapolis this summer.
 How sad is that!?!?  I will so miss the Forks market and trips to Brandon
et al... ;)



On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:46 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> Hey Andrew
>
> Bring them both to Winnipeg and my son Tom and I will give it a go. We
> pulled the engine from the big boat last
> weekend in no time at all. I worked on it for a bit on Saturday afternoon
> and he worked on it a bit on Sunday
> morning. Dropped it in the truck and brought it back to the city. Have yet
> to tear into it and find out what went
> wrong but maybe this weekend.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Free W123 300D turbodiesel engine!! (sort of)
>
>
> Here is the deal.
>
> I have a great 1985 300D turbo diesel engine in my 85 300TD wagon (282 K
> miles) I would love to give away to someone on this list in exchange for
> expertise/labor.  The labor would involve 1) removing it from my car so you
> could have it, and 2) removing a 1985 300TD wagon engine from a rusty 1985
> 300TD donor car (both with my assistance and tools).  Part 3 would of
> course
> be to install the wagon engine in the now empty engine bay of my 300TD so I
> could reconnect the original self levelling system to make it a REAL wagon.
> :)  Step 3 is for bonus points.
>
> Does this proposal interest anyone?  If so. I am flexible was to where the
> work could be done.  Could be done at your place, my garage (NW DC) or
> wherever I find the donor wagon.
>
> I need the 85 wagon engine since the car is a genune 1985 with all the good
> stuff offered in the last model year of this enduring classic.
>
> SWMBO thinks I am crazy and I am not goring to argue.
>
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD and 1985 quasi 300TD
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[MBZ] FREE....1959 180 d diesel engine runs great

[W140]

 That is Arlington, Washington STATE, About 50 miles NORTH of Seattle.
I'm just forwarding it the List. I know nothing about it
Walt Lasher
Seattle
W40  S350


FREEvintage antique Mercedes Benz engine (Arlington)Date: 2010-06-20, 
7:59PM PDT
Reply to: sale-aywv5-1802322...@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

classic 1959 180 d diesel engine runs great , The 4 speed transmission goes 
with it Email this posting 

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/zip/1802322380.html
 

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Re: [MBZ] OT for you airplane junkies

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

That's TWO!  Drink another cup of joe before you strike out!

-Max 

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Subject: [MBZ] OT for you airplane junkies

Look at the rivets/screws? at about 2:50.  h.  And the landing gears
on Russian planes are still designed for landing on Massachusetts roads.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

That's ONE!  No text, no attachment...

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber



On 6/21/2010 8:45 AM, Frederick W Moir wrote:
> Max.
> My wife's wise to that one!
> Penalty of marrying an intelligent woman.
> A friend did offer a parking space, and boy was I tempted!
> Did get the pre-chamber threads cleaned up, the injector fits smoothly

> and torques down to spec. We'll see, Hmmm?
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
>
> On 6/21/2010 7:17 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
> wrote:
>> Fred, never let a good crisis go to waste!  Obvious to me that you 
>> need ANOTHER donor car!
>>
>> "Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used 
>> car for $200.  Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at
[MAX's]?"
>>
>> -Max
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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Mitch Haley]

pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
Reply; 
Honey, I have 42 pairs of shoes in the closet, can I store my new lavender pumps on your side? 


Now, but you can store them at Jane's house. Her husband has my parts car in the 
back yard.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

The twin of my '95 E300!  You lucky dawgs...

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

OK Don was kind enough to lend us one his Mercs, see attached picture.

Hendrik
who is doing route 66 the slow way

On Sun Jun 20  6:43 , 'WILTON'  sent:

>You driving, flying?  What's your mode of travel now?
>
>Wilton
>

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[MBZ] FREE....1959 180 d diesel engine runs great

[W140]

FREEvintage antique Mercedes Benz engine (Arlington)Date: 2010-06-20, 
7:59PM PDT
Reply to: sale-aywv5-1802322...@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

classic 1959 180 d diesel engine runs great , The 4 speed transmission goes 
with it Email this posting 

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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[WILTON]

A trick donkey, eh?

Wilton

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OK Don was kind enough to lend us one his Mercs, see attached picture.

Hendrik
who is doing route 66 the slow way

On Sun Jun 20  6:43 , 'WILTON'  sent:


You driving, flying?  What's your mode of travel now?

Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Frederick W Moir]

Clowns, et al.
The pre-chamber is $244 new from Rusty. Or $204 per his generous offer.
I have managed to clean up the threads on the original, install injector 
and torque to spec.
I cannot, however, find an '87 190DT for $200 within a reasonable radius 
of Boston, or anywhere else for that matter.
Did spot a 300DT with 602 reasonably local, however the chancellor of 
the exchequer points out the state of the current budget does not 
support new purchases of unnecessary (?) spare automobiles, especially 
ones that do dot run.

Smile, people will think you know something.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA


On 6/21/2010 9:59 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

"Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car
for $200.  Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in name
of friends]?"


New: $300.  Good used: $200, and comes in recyclable packaging.
Sounds like a no-brainer to me!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[pm7088]

Reply; 
Honey, I have 42 pairs of shoes in the closet, can I store my new lavender 
pumps on your side? 


Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber 

> "Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car 
> for $200. Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in name 
> of friends]?" 

New: $300. Good used: $200, and comes in recyclable packaging. 
Sounds like a no-brainer to me! 

-- Jim 



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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Jim Cathey]

"Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car
for $200.  Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in name
of friends]?"


New: $300.  Good used: $200, and comes in recyclable packaging.
Sounds like a no-brainer to me!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Ozlahoma

[Hendrik and Fay]

Hey man, don't mess with the hair.

Hendrik
who would like to wish the list some peace, love and good vibes

On Sun Jun 20  9:42 , Rich Thomas  sent:

>Looks like a fun time.  I think Hen is a hippie. "Whahownt chew git a 
>harcut boy?"
>
>--R
>
>On 6/19/2010 11:24 PM, OK Don wrote:
>> We tried to feed up the Aussie crew, but you know how you can lead the
>> kangaroo to the billabong, but can't make him drink --
>>
>> Had a delightfull time with them, even if they didn't eat their fair share
>> of the grub.
>>
>> In the photos - from left to right:
>> Doris, Don, Zack, Bri, Georgia, Cara, Jeanette, Fay, Hendrick.
>>
>> I took the first photo, Zack took the rest (you can tell, they're better,
>> Zack has a promising career has a portraitist).
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Ozlahoma

[Hendrik and Fay]

We'll like I said, when I am not working I don't eat that much and the good 
brews
you put on also filled me up, unlike that watery mainstream swill.

Hendrik
who has to go and feed the donkey

On Sat Jun 19 20:24 , OK Don  sent:

>We tried to feed up the Aussie crew, but you know how you can lead the
>kangaroo to the billabong, but can't make him drink --
>
>Had a delightfull time with them, even if they didn't eat their fair share
>of the grub.
>
>In the photos - from left to right:
>Doris, Don, Zack, Bri, Georgia, Cara, Jeanette, Fay, Hendrick.
>
>I took the first photo, Zack took the rest (you can tell, they're better,
>Zack has a promising career has a portraitist).
>
>-- 
>OK Don


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[MBZ] OT for you airplane junkies

[Rich Thomas]

Look at the rivets/screws? at about 2:50.  h.  And the landing gears 
on Russian planes are still designed for landing on Massachusetts roads.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Hendrik and Fay]

OK Don was kind enough to lend us one his Mercs, see attached picture.

Hendrik
who is doing route 66 the slow way

On Sun Jun 20  6:43 , 'WILTON'  sent:

>You driving, flying?  What's your mode of travel now?
>
>Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Did you take 66 the whole way?

Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Hi Don

Everyone is asleep & I should be to as it is late.
We made it to Amarillo via route 66.
It is sad to see how many towns are like ghost towns on the route - all in the
name of progress.
Stopped at the Route 66 national museum, that was real good.

We are staying at the Big Texan Motel & went to the Big Texan Steakhouse for 
dinner.
We loved it, that was as cowboy/western as you could get.
A recently serving marine tried the 72oz steak challenge & he was very close to
finishing, but it wasn't enough to get the meal for free.

Off to buy some cowboy/western souvenirs for the family then heading to 
Alberqurque.
It is alot of driving but that is what us Aussies are best at.

Thanks once again for your hospitality

Fay

  


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91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Maybe the cam is locked up and bottom end is Ok.  Take the chain loose 
to check.


Bob Rentfro wrote:

Noit moves not. Nothing.

Bob R

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  

Does the cam shaft seem to move slightly, at least as much as the slack in
the chain will allow?

Bob Rentfro wrote:



Took the valve cover offchain in tact. Nothing obviously broben up
top.
Whatever is broken is below, evidently.

Time to start cleaning her out.

Bob R



  

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manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com


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85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So how did you like the Big Texan?  Did you take the challenge?  Did you 
go see that big canyon out there?


Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Kaleb,mate,,,not a worry, we know you gotta work long hours to feed the
family and we where very hapy just to meet up with you for such a short time.
On top of all that you keep this great list going, sell dodgy parts to the
natives and look after your family. I did not expect that you would be able to
clear your schedule to show us the sights of Claremore and surrounds but to me
just meeting you and Reg was a fantastic experience that I will treasure 
forever.
The same goes for Don, Loren and Dan, we would have loved to spend more time 
with
these great folks and their hangers on but.
I especially feel a bit bad about meeting Loren because he caught me at a bad
time, when I had a longish trip ahead of me and a few connections, which the
mountain man thankfully took care of.
Let me say that meeting you lot was the best part of America and is one of those
things that makes me think that America is a great country like Australia.
Sure you have strange people, just like us but when you go to midddle America it
is just the same as us.

Hendrik
who meet a recently serving Marine at the Big Texan Steak House, he tried the
challenge and go s close

  


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91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 
85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D crapped out on way to work

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Im still not sure if it needs a tranny or if the converter is not hooked 
up right


OK Don wrote:

And I have the tranny it needs ---

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  

I have a 87 190Dt




  


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85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

[Rich Thomas]

Don't forget Cadillac Ranch!

--R

On 6/21/2010 1:01 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Hi Don

Everyone is asleep&  I should be to as it is late.
We made it to Amarillo via route 66.
It is sad to see how many towns are like ghost towns on the route - all in the
name of progress.
Stopped at the Route 66 national museum, that was real good.

We are staying at the Big Texan Motel&  went to the Big Texan Steakhouse for 
dinner.
We loved it, that was as cowboy/western as you could get.
A recently serving marine tried the 72oz steak challenge&  he was very close to
finishing, but it wasn't enough to get the meal for free.

Off to buy some cowboy/western souvenirs for the family then heading to 
Alberqurque.
It is alot of driving but that is what us Aussies are best at.

Thanks once again for your hospitality

Fay
   



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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Rich Thomas]

On 6/21/2010 8:45 AM, Frederick W Moir wrote:

Max.
My wife's wise to that one!
Penalty of marrying an intelligent woman.
A friend did offer a parking space, and boy was I tempted!
Did get the pre-chamber threads cleaned up, the injector fits smoothly 
and torques down to spec. We'll see, Hmmm?

Fred Moir
Lynn MA

On 6/21/2010 7:17 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
wrote:

Fred, never let a good crisis go to waste!  Obvious to me that you need
ANOTHER donor car!

"Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car
for $200.  Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [MAX's]?"

-Max


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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Tape a thick piece of wood in place above the injector, on the underside
of the hood, so you don't need a new hood as well after that injector
launches.  On second thought, "Honey I need a new hood AND a
pre-chamber..."

-Max 

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:45 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

Max.
My wife's wise to that one!
Penalty of marrying an intelligent woman.
A friend did offer a parking space, and boy was I tempted!
Did get the pre-chamber threads cleaned up, the injector fits smoothly
and torques down to spec. We'll see, Hmmm?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

On 6/21/2010 7:17 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> Fred, never let a good crisis go to waste!  Obvious to me that you 
> need ANOTHER donor car!
>
> "Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car

> for $200.  Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in 
> name of friends]?"
>
> -Max

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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Frederick W Moir]

Max.
My wife's wise to that one!
Penalty of marrying an intelligent woman.
A friend did offer a parking space, and boy was I tempted!
Did get the pre-chamber threads cleaned up, the injector fits smoothly 
and torques down to spec. We'll see, Hmmm?

Fred Moir
Lynn MA

On 6/21/2010 7:17 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
wrote:

Fred, never let a good crisis go to waste!  Obvious to me that you need
ANOTHER donor car!

"Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car
for $200.  Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in name
of friends]?"

-Max


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Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

[MG]

That is a possibility that I didn't want to contemplate. It's in 
the bottom of the valley and not a fun job to get to. It does 
have a bit more then the usually heard about 100,000 miles on the 
pump. I guess I may have to ask about that the next time I go to 
Jacksonville.


Manfred



Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:59:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Peter Frederick 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
Message-ID:

Check with a diesel injection service -- I'm not familiar with 
this particular pump, but a failed pressure valve or a worn rotor 
will give this problem, along with low power warm.  You should 
NOT be able to get vapor lock, as the injection lines should be 
holding pressure up to the pop pressure of the injectors!  1500 
psi is typical, now way the fuel can get hot enough to boil 
unless the pressure isn't holding in the lines.


Might be time for a pump overhaul, those distributor pumps often 
require lubrication supplement with ultra low sulfur fuel or they 
wear fast.  My old Volvo pump had to be rebuilt for this reason.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Fred, never let a good crisis go to waste!  Obvious to me that you need
ANOTHER donor car!

"Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car
for $200.  Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in name
of friends]?"

-Max 

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber

Mitch.
True. may be hard to start.
The pre-chamber in the head and secure, then using the plastic crap
excluder to get the right angle and the wery wery carefully turn the
handle.
After that I'll probably call Rusty!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

On 6/18/2010 7:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Frederick W Moir wrote:
>> I'm going to try a M22x1.5 bottom tap on it, when the head comes back
>
> Can you set it up in a drill press to hold alignment, and turn the 
> chuck by hand, maybe using a chuck key for a handle?
>
> It can be fun to get a bottoming tap started straight by hand,, 
> especially if the first couple of threads are buggered.
>
> Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Recommended primer for painting a small area

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Larry,

Thanks, and I'll give them a call.  When I ordered the paint at their
online site, no primer choice was allowed.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Recommended primer for painting a small area

Ask Paintscratch to provide the primer too - that way you'll be sure of
getting a compatible primer the wrong primer and it will all be
falling off. ;-^

LarryT
91 300D

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From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 

Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:01 PM
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: [MBZ] Recommended primer for painting a small area

> I've got to grind off some rust on the A-pillar of my '95 E300 and 
> repaint a spot about 3 inches across.  I'm going to get some paint 
> from paintscratch.com.  What is a good primer to apply to the bare
metal?
>
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> Max Dillon
> '87 300TD 326k miles
> '95 E300 275k miles (project status - again!)
> '73 Balboa 20
> Charleston SC
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