Re: [MBZ] post 140 brainslips
I think it is safe to call this a slip of the brain, airmatic was an option on the 211. Time will tell if these chassis are good. Hendrik who has had zero serious breakdowns with his Mercs Right, slip of the fingers, I meant the 211 and 212---again, such good cars that it's hard to see why one should pony up for an S-class unless you want the otherwise unavailable goodies like Airmatic and/or a V-12. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil change time E300
Dieselvolk, Had time to change the oil in my '95 E300 last night. This is the second oil change during my ownership, the first occurred right after I started driving the car post-vacuum pump repair. I used Delvac 1300 for the new oil fill for that first oil change, and the car used probably about 1/2 quart of oil over 6 thousand miles. For this fill, I'm using Mobil 1 0w-40, and I'm planning to test the oil at the 5k mark. I expect that this engine will produce very little soot, and the limiting factor for next oil change will become the calender. The '87 wagon is now parked and waiting for me to find time to pull the head. Anyone have a #17 or later head they want to sell? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 280k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '87 300TD head removal
Dieselvolk, Can anyone provide the specifications for the shop-made slide rail pin pulling tool? I think it is supposed to be a bolt 6mm in diameter with a nut and stack of washer, but how long, how deep a washer stack, and are the threads 6mm x1.0 or some other dimension? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 280k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD head removal
Max Dillon wrote: Dieselvolk, Can anyone provide the specifications for the shop-made slide rail pin pulling tool? I think it is supposed to be a bolt 6mm in diameter with a nut and stack of washer, but how long, how deep a washer stack, and are the threads 6mm x1.0 or some other dimension? I wouldn't sweat the details too much (but I've got an assortment of 4, 5, and 6mm bolts laying around already). Just find a bolt that threads in smoothly, stick a washer and a socket over it, make sure it goes in 4 threads before it gets tight, and crank down on it until you meet resistance or it comes out. (you don't want to bottom out on the threads and then keep turning it) If you bottomed out, unscrew it and start over with a longer socket or more washers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 64, Issue 64
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:17 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Then there was the ten grand E-Class price drop apparently designed to lose customers. That was for the 1994 model year, simultaneous with the Great Letter/Number Switch, and the beginning of M-B's drastic quality control problems (not a coincidence). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Don't See These Everyday, only on Wednesdays and perhaps Fridays
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: The problem with sportline models is that the suspension parts are a little different and the ride is firmer. Problem? Sportlines are considered among the most desirable 201s and 124s, at least on this side of the Equator. Perhaps suspension priorities are different when you habitually drive upside down and on the wrong side of the road? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Honda Seizure/oops Fit/cranking the 240D
Are you sure that she isn't a lumberjack to have burly enough arms to turn over a diesel on those freezing mornings? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 15, 2011, at 19:20, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Yup, even the engine had to be manually turned over via a crank up the front but I usually got the missus to do that. Hendrik who is doing a crappy Wilton impression WILTON wrote: My '80 240D had manual everything; 'may still be driving it if it hadn't been totaled by uninsured driver at 185 kmi. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD head removal
I don't have a nice assortment to select from, so I'll need to go buy something. You think it could be between 4, 5 and 6mm? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 280k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 10:52:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD head removal Max Dillon wrote: Dieselvolk, Can anyone provide the specifications for the shop-made slide rail pin pulling tool? I think it is supposed to be a bolt 6mm in diameter with a nut and stack of washer, but how long, how deep a washer stack, and are the threads 6mm x1.0 or some other dimension? I wouldn't sweat the details too much (but I've got an assortment of 4, 5, and 6mm bolts laying around already). Just find a bolt that threads in smoothly, stick a washer and a socket over it, make sure it goes in 4 threads before it gets tight, and crank down on it until you meet resistance or it comes out. (you don't want to bottom out on the threads and then keep turning it) If you bottomed out, unscrew it and start over with a longer socket or more washers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD head removal
Max Dillon wrote: I don't have a nice assortment to select from, so I'll need to go buy something. You think it could be between 4, 5 and 6mm? Oops, it looks like I guessed small. I thought the threaded hole was in the pin, but it's only in the head of the pin, and is pretty large. Somebody made a puller for a 617 with an 8x1.25 bolt. Looks like you run a long bolt into the tensioner pin until it bottoms out, then run a nut down on the bolt to extract. One guy had an 8.8 bolt fail, so he bought a grade 12.9 for more pull before failure. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=288848 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test
Looking at a possible 1985 300TD engine, asked the owner to do a compression test for me. Would it take 3 hours to do a compresion test on a 300TD? Is $60 a fair price to pay for this? What would Kalebe asking to do this? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test
When I got my 300E, the dealer wanted $300-400 to look the car over, and that wasn't including doing a leak down pressure differential test. I passed, as I can look at, shake and wiggle external things as well as the next guy. If it takes anyone 3 hours to do a compression test, I probably wouldn't let them touch my car, as there's a good chance they don't have a clue what they're doing. Again, $60 for 3 hours work comes out to $20 per hour. Wouldn't want a $20 an hour mechanic touching my car either. My guess is, it's more a half hour job, and the $60 is a bill for a half hours labour. Why not take it to a guy you know and trust, and do a leakdown pressure differential test, rather than just a compression test. Gives you a better snapshot of what's going on inside the engine, and a better indicator if things aren't what they should be, just where the problem(s) might be. Shouldn't take more than an hour, if they stop for tea and cookies. Ed 300E On 16 March 2011 15:52, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at a possible 1985 300TD engine, asked the owner to do a compression test for me. Would it take 3 hours to do a compresion test on a 300TD? Is $60 a fair price to pay for this? What would Kalebe asking to do this? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long)
Alright, an update... I drove the car home today for a bit more diagnosis. What I have determined is that the servo is shorted between pin 3 and 5. Where 12V is placed between these pins, the servo should park... instead, I get some sparks. It seems that this short is pulling some serious current through the amplifier, and perhaps bringing the rest of the system down. When connected, I get 8 volts or less on Pin 3 with the servo connected, 12v disconnected. I blew the fuse in my ammeter checking pins 3-5 and don't have a replacement. The servo does move with 12V between pins 4 and 5, but its unclear how much current its drawing, and how much it should draw. Its possible that the draw here is also too much for the amp to handle. I took the servo apart and noticed a little crack in the arm that moves the electrical contacts. I'm not sure if this was there the first time I took it apart or not, but might be the cause of the short. Its a pretty simple set of connections, so I can't see any other possibilities. So, I think I need a new servo. Now... who to go with for a replacement eBay used, aluminum body, dealer new? I'm interested in as original appearance as possible, as this is a rare car with very low mileage. Hopefully my new amp isn't fried. Thanks to everyone who passed along documentation and tips... very helpful. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Jim, Thanks very useful stuff! Thanks! I have the vacuum and electrical schematic from the factory manual which is quite useful as well. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So I have some issue with the electrical part of the servo (like the feedback potentiometer), or I've got a bunch of bad amps. Sounds logical, yes. You need to look at the schematic to see what is likely. Are any schematics of the system and its sub-components (amps) available? I have Scott Ritchey's and George Murphy's work stashed on my server: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL...Don't See sportlines everyday, only on Wednesdays and perhaps Fridays
I think performance is all relative. My take on the Sportline option from what little I know about it, is to slightly reduce some of the wallow and firm up the handling a bit, for road use. Bit less roll on the on and off ramps. I can't imagine anyone interested in doing weekend track work to opt for any W124 based car. A sportline W124 might be a car that has somewhat tighter handling for your drive to the track. But once there, you'll want to park it and get into something a bit more suited to the job at hand. I think the W124 has a really nice ride in standard form. When pushed, even a bit, it still stays composed, but doesn't give any of the feel or feedback that you want for spirited driving. I would think the sportline package would address this a bit, but I don't think you're going to be making any unscheduled trips to the dentist if you go down a bumpy road in one. Just my take on the car. Ed 300E On 16 March 2011 18:46, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Perhaps problem is not the right word but parts may be a tad more expensive than standard, although I believe all the bushes are the same as the standard ones. From my point of view trading off ride quality versus handling is not a good idea. The 201 especially is already a bit bouncy due to it's light weight and tends to go around corners well enough and I really wouldn't want my 124 to be any firmer and for what I do it handles well enough. Sure if you wanna go do a bit of track work on the weekend, then the sportline set up is a must but for everyday driving it is a waste, unless you like chasing rice burners up a hill. Anyway I guess for those with race car driver fantasies, a sportsline might help to be part of that but then you really wanna do it properly and hang out for a cosworth equipped model or a 124 with a bent 8, which we never got over here because they don't work well upside down and the MB engineers hate us enough not to bother solving the engineering issues with V8's in RH drive 124's. On a related note, why is it that the 126 chassis never got a sportline option, specially in the C126 variants? Hendrik who is in the slow lane Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: The problem with sportline models is that the suspension parts are a little different and the ride is firmer. Problem? Sportlines are considered among the most desirable 201s and 124s, at least on this side of the Equator. Perhaps suspension priorities are different when you habitually drive upside down and on the wrong side of the road? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More junk
...Right, slip of the fingers, I meant the 211 and 212---again, such good cars that it's hard to see why one should pony up for an S-class unless you want the otherwise unavailable goodies like Airmatic and/or a V-12 Airmatic was standard in W211 Sport models. W211s near the end were good cars but 2003 to 2005 are to be avoided because of endless electronic problems. Same thing for W203s those years. W212s, homely though they may be, are very reliable, just like the W204 and W221s. Finally. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test
The glow plugs need to come out... $60 for 3 hours is cheap shop time. -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:52:19 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test Message-ID: AANLkTi=w0vjtkgoueft14zy5q7np37crzwh-osouf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looking at a possible 1985 300TD engine, asked the owner to do a compression test for me. Would it take 3 hours to do a compresion test on a 300TD? Is $60 a fair price to pay for this? What would Kalebe asking to do this? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 107 wheels
Need to get tires for the SL. It has 205/70-14 bundts on it. Everything else I have runs 15 wheels. TO standardize, I am pondering what other wheels will fit. Specifically, does anyone know if wheels off of a 123, 124 or 126 will fit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 wheels
W123/W126 wheels may fit. W124 wheels will definitely NOT fit, wrong offset. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More junk
As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think the W212 is one of the best looking things to come from Mercedes in years. I'm a fan of the W221 too, though not so much since the tail light update. The W212 is the car that has made me drive over and wander through the dealer more than a few times. They also happen to be everywhere around here now. That's great for me, as I always park as far away from the shops as possible while at the mall. It allows me to walk past that many more W212s in the parking lot, while making my way into the mall. :-) Ed 300E On 16 March 2011 19:58, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Right, slip of the fingers, I meant the 211 and 212---again, such good cars that it's hard to see why one should pony up for an S-class unless you want the otherwise unavailable goodies like Airmatic and/or a V-12 Airmatic was standard in W211 Sport models. W211s near the end were good cars but 2003 to 2005 are to be avoided because of endless electronic problems. Same thing for W203s those years. W212s, homely though they may be, are very reliable, just like the W204 and W221s. Finally. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 wheels
W07/108/111/114/115/116/123/126 all have the same offset. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:28:31 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 107 wheels W123/W126 wheels may fit. W124 wheels will definitely NOT fit, wrong offset. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long)
Jaime: I have some servo parts that may replace your defective ones. I used only the servo motor, so have the arm and contact plate. If you're interested you may have them for the cost of postage. Let me know, I'll send pics of what I have. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long) Alright, an update... I drove the car home today for a bit more diagnosis. What I have determined is that the servo is shorted between pin 3 and 5. Where 12V is placed between these pins, the servo should park... instead, I get some sparks. It seems that this short is pulling some serious current through the amplifier, and perhaps bringing the rest of the system down. When connected, I get 8 volts or less on Pin 3 with the servo connected, 12v disconnected. I blew the fuse in my ammeter checking pins 3-5 and don't have a replacement. The servo does move with 12V between pins 4 and 5, but its unclear how much current its drawing, and how much it should draw. Its possible that the draw here is also too much for the amp to handle. I took the servo apart and noticed a little crack in the arm that moves the electrical contacts. I'm not sure if this was there the first time I took it apart or not, but might be the cause of the short. Its a pretty simple set of connections, so I can't see any other possibilities. So, I think I need a new servo. Now... who to go with for a replacement eBay used, aluminum body, dealer new? I'm interested in as original appearance as possible, as this is a rare car with very low mileage. Hopefully my new amp isn't fried. Thanks to everyone who passed along documentation and tips... very helpful. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Jim, Thanks very useful stuff! Thanks! I have the vacuum and electrical schematic from the factory manual which is quite useful as well. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So I have some issue with the electrical part of the servo (like the feedback potentiometer), or I've got a bunch of bad amps. Sounds logical, yes. You need to look at the schematic to see what is likely. Are any schematics of the system and its sub-components (amps) available? I have Scott Ritchey's and George Murphy's work stashed on my server: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SL speedo problem... solved
In Jan I asked about the SL speedo, and if it was a cable or electronic. Being electronic, I was puzzled about why it abruptly failed. today, I jacked it up and took off the rear skid pans/transmission mount. The speedo sender was dangling by the wire. So, solved that problem without having to put a meter on to try to determine if it was sending a signal. It obviously was not sending in its dangling position. I found a M6 x 15 bolt and lockwasher, cleaned the sender and put it back in. I love problems that are this easy! x ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long)
What car are you referring to? The subject says ACCII, but this description of parking the servo sounds like the dreaded Crypsler ACC (I) I was lost from the start of your thread since there was no vehicle associated with the post. Alright, an update... I drove the car home today for a bit more diagnosis. What I have determined is that the servo is shorted between pin 3 and 5. Where 12V is placed between these pins, the servo should park... instead, I get some sparks. It seems that this short is pulling some serious current through the amplifier, and perhaps bringing the rest of the system down. When connected, I get 8 volts or less on Pin 3 with the servo connected, 12v disconnected. I blew the fuse in my ammeter checking pins 3-5 and don't have a replacement. The servo does move with 12V between pins 4 and 5, but its unclear how much current its drawing, and how much it should draw. Its possible that the draw here is also too much for the amp to handle. I took the servo apart and noticed a little crack in the arm that moves the electrical contacts. I'm not sure if this was there the first time I took it apart or not, but might be the cause of the short. Its a pretty simple set of connections, so I can't see any other possibilities. So, I think I need a new servo. Now... who to go with for a replacement eBay used, aluminum body, dealer new? I'm interested in as original appearance as possible, as this is a rare car with very low mileage. Hopefully my new amp isn't fried. Thanks to everyone who passed along documentation and tips... very helpful. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Jim, Thanks very useful stuff! Thanks! I have the vacuum and electrical schematic from the factory manual which is quite useful as well. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So I have some issue with the electrical part of the servo (like the feedback potentiometer), or I've got a bunch of bad amps. Sounds logical, yes. You need to look at the schematic to see what is likely. Are any schematics of the system and its sub-components (amps) available? I have Scott Ritchey's and George Murphy's work stashed on my server: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long)
If it is the dreaded Crypsler ACC (I), I thought the usual failure mode was corrosion, etc. in the coolant body valving that prevents the motor from parking, thus draining the battery , blowing circuits, etc. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What car are you referring to? The subject says ACCII, but this description of parking the servo sounds like the dreaded Crypsler ACC (I) I was lost from the start of your thread since there was no vehicle associated with the post. Alright, an update... I drove the car home today for a bit more diagnosis. What I have determined is that the servo is shorted between pin 3 and 5. Where 12V is placed between these pins, the servo should park... instead, I get some sparks. It seems that this short is pulling some serious current through the amplifier, and perhaps bringing the rest of the system down. When connected, I get 8 volts or less on Pin 3 with the servo connected, 12v disconnected. I blew the fuse in my ammeter checking pins 3-5 and don't have a replacement. The servo does move with 12V between pins 4 and 5, but its unclear how much current its drawing, and how much it should draw. Its possible that the draw here is also too much for the amp to handle. I took the servo apart and noticed a little crack in the arm that moves the electrical contacts. I'm not sure if this was there the first time I took it apart or not, but might be the cause of the short. Its a pretty simple set of connections, so I can't see any other possibilities. So, I think I need a new servo. Now... who to go with for a replacement eBay used, aluminum body, dealer new? I'm interested in as original appearance as possible, as this is a rare car with very low mileage. Hopefully my new amp isn't fried. Thanks to everyone who passed along documentation and tips... very helpful. Jaime -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 wheels
So - yes. You can get the pancake wheels from a 126 and look like a 560SL. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:33 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: W07/108/111/114/115/116/123/126 all have the same offset. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 wheels
The 560s came out with 15 hole alloy wheels (15) if they are the same as the 126, I wish I still had my spare set from the SDL snow tires. H. Makes me wonder if the 126 wheels will fit on a 107. If I found 15 bundts, they would look original. I'd rather have 8 holers to take care of, but 15 holers are easier to keep clean than the bundts. W123/W126 wheels may fit. W124 wheels will definitely NOT fit, wrong offset. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SL speedo problem... solved
Why do I never get ones like that? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: In Jan I asked about the SL speedo, and if it was a cable or electronic. Being electronic, I was puzzled about why it abruptly failed. today, I jacked it up and took off the rear skid pans/transmission mount. The speedo sender was dangling by the wire. So, solved that problem without having to put a meter on to try to determine if it was sending a signal. It obviously was not sending in its dangling position. I found a M6 x 15 bolt and lockwasher, cleaned the sender and put it back in. I love problems that are this easy! x -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SL speedo problem... solved
Admit it, you waited this long to keep off some mileage from that round the country jaunt you didn't tell us about. ;) Glad it was an easy fix! Walt On Mar 16, 2011 9:20 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long)
I have a servo from a 78 300D, unknown condition. Yours for postage if I can find it. Walt On Mar 16, 2011 9:20 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What car are you referring to? The subject says ACCII, but this description of parking the servo sounds like the dreaded Crypsler ACC (I) I was lost from the start of your thread since there was no vehicle associated with the post. Alright, an update... I drove the car home today for a bit more diagnosis. What I have determined is that the servo is shorted between pin 3 and 5. Where 12V is placed between these pins, the servo should park... instead, I get some sparks. It seems that this short is pulling some serious current through the amplifier, and perhaps bringing the rest of the system down. When connected, I get 8 volts or less on Pin 3 with the servo connected, 12v disconnected. I blew the fuse in my ammeter checking pins 3-5 and don't have a replacement. The servo does move with 12V between pins 4 and 5, but its unclear how much current its drawing, and how much it should draw. Its possible that the draw here is also too much for the amp to handle. I took the servo apart and noticed a little crack in the arm that moves the electrical contacts. I'm not sure if this was there the first time I took it apart or not, but might be the cause of the short. Its a pretty simple set of connections, so I can't see any other possibilities. So, I think I need a new servo. Now... who to go with for a replacement eBay used, aluminum body, dealer new? I'm interested in as original appearance as possible, as this is a rare car with very low mileage. Hopefully my new amp isn't fried. Thanks to everyone who passed along documentation and tips... very helpful. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, Thanks very useful stuff! Thanks! I have the vacuum and electrical schematic from the factory manual which is quite useful as well. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So I have some issue with the electrical part of the servo (like the feedback potentiometer), or I've got a bunch of bad amps. Sounds logical, yes. You need to look at the schematic to see what is likely. Are any schematics of the system and its sub-components (amps) available? I have Scott Ritchey's and George Murphy's work stashed on my server: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long)
ACCII = Chrysler based system with servo we are talking about here... 76-80 ACCIII = 81-85 ACCI = Mercedes 600 Jaime On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What car are you referring to? The subject says ACCII, but this description of parking the servo sounds like the dreaded Crypsler ACC (I) I was lost from the start of your thread since there was no vehicle associated with the post. Alright, an update... I drove the car home today for a bit more diagnosis. What I have determined is that the servo is shorted between pin 3 and 5. Where 12V is placed between these pins, the servo should park... instead, I get some sparks. It seems that this short is pulling some serious current through the amplifier, and perhaps bringing the rest of the system down. When connected, I get 8 volts or less on Pin 3 with the servo connected, 12v disconnected. I blew the fuse in my ammeter checking pins 3-5 and don't have a replacement. The servo does move with 12V between pins 4 and 5, but its unclear how much current its drawing, and how much it should draw. Its possible that the draw here is also too much for the amp to handle. I took the servo apart and noticed a little crack in the arm that moves the electrical contacts. I'm not sure if this was there the first time I took it apart or not, but might be the cause of the short. Its a pretty simple set of connections, so I can't see any other possibilities. So, I think I need a new servo. Now... who to go with for a replacement eBay used, aluminum body, dealer new? I'm interested in as original appearance as possible, as this is a rare car with very low mileage. Hopefully my new amp isn't fried. Thanks to everyone who passed along documentation and tips... very helpful. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, Thanks very useful stuff! Thanks! I have the vacuum and electrical schematic from the factory manual which is quite useful as well. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So I have some issue with the electrical part of the servo (like the feedback potentiometer), or I've got a bunch of bad amps. Sounds logical, yes. You need to look at the schematic to see what is likely. Are any schematics of the system and its sub-components (amps) available? I have Scott Ritchey's and George Murphy's work stashed on my server: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long)
Oh yeah, its a 79 450SLC 5.0 I found last fall... its been in storage since 1991 and has 26k miles. The big stuff is done and its running well now, but there are a few smaller items to address. Jaime On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: ACCII = Chrysler based system with servo we are talking about here... 76-80 ACCIII = 81-85 ACCI = Mercedes 600 Jaime On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What car are you referring to? The subject says ACCII, but this description of parking the servo sounds like the dreaded Crypsler ACC (I) I was lost from the start of your thread since there was no vehicle associated with the post. Alright, an update... I drove the car home today for a bit more diagnosis. What I have determined is that the servo is shorted between pin 3 and 5. Where 12V is placed between these pins, the servo should park... instead, I get some sparks. It seems that this short is pulling some serious current through the amplifier, and perhaps bringing the rest of the system down. When connected, I get 8 volts or less on Pin 3 with the servo connected, 12v disconnected. I blew the fuse in my ammeter checking pins 3-5 and don't have a replacement. The servo does move with 12V between pins 4 and 5, but its unclear how much current its drawing, and how much it should draw. Its possible that the draw here is also too much for the amp to handle. I took the servo apart and noticed a little crack in the arm that moves the electrical contacts. I'm not sure if this was there the first time I took it apart or not, but might be the cause of the short. Its a pretty simple set of connections, so I can't see any other possibilities. So, I think I need a new servo. Now... who to go with for a replacement eBay used, aluminum body, dealer new? I'm interested in as original appearance as possible, as this is a rare car with very low mileage. Hopefully my new amp isn't fried. Thanks to everyone who passed along documentation and tips... very helpful. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, Thanks very useful stuff! Thanks! I have the vacuum and electrical schematic from the factory manual which is quite useful as well. Jaime On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So I have some issue with the electrical part of the servo (like the feedback potentiometer), or I've got a bunch of bad amps. Sounds logical, yes. You need to look at the schematic to see what is likely. Are any schematics of the system and its sub-components (amps) available? I have Scott Ritchey's and George Murphy's work stashed on my server: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test
3 hours though? Seems high to me, I did all 8 on a 450 in ~1 hour and I'm -not- fast. Did not buy that 450, either. Anyway in your situation I'd probably pay the $60 if it's not nearby; might save you a trip on a bum engine, or else you find out it is good and have a guaranteed hold-it-until-you-get-there [I assume the seller will be willing to do that if he takes your $60]. Either way, seems like it would be worth the money. But then it's not my money. :) Best, -Tim On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The glow plugs need to come out... $60 for 3 hours is cheap shop time. -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:52:19 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test Message-ID: AANLkTi=w0vjtkgoueft14zy5q7np37crzwh-osouf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looking at a possible 1985 300TD engine, asked the owner to do a compression test for me. Would it take 3 hours to do a compresion test on a 300TD? Is $60 a fair price to pay for this? What would Kalebe asking to do this? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test
I would guess that sort of depends on how many times one has done that procedure. I have never done it so it seems to me that 3 hours might not be enough. An experienced mechanic in a well equipped shop should beat that time without problems. That is why they have book time. Could you do it in 3 hours? What would you expect to be paid to do it? Is the owner a mechanic or at least a well experienced amateur? Will you be there to watch??? No end of good questions. Randy On 16/03/2011 2:52 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Looking at a possible 1985 300TD engine, asked the owner to do a compression test for me. Would it take 3 hours to do a compresion test on a 300TD? Is $60 a fair price to pay for this? What would Kalebe asking to do this? ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test
Curt Raymond wrote: The glow plugs need to come out... $60 for 3 hours is cheap shop time. Maybe the shop wants $60 for a compression test, and it'll take three hours out of the owner's day to have it done? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 wheels
buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: W07/108/111/114/115/116/123/126 all have the same offset. What about W109? Same as W108? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kinda OT Car Purchasing Tips
A while back Kaleb posted his negotiating tips he uses when purchasing a car. I thought I saved them but I though wrong. Can someone re-post them or perhaps suggest more? Thanks, Rick Who is too lazy to search the archives... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACCII Talk (long)
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:25:50 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What car are you referring to? The subject says ACCII, but this description of parking the servo sounds like the dreaded Crypsler ACC (I) I was lost from the start of your thread since there was no vehicle associated with the post. From his original post: Cut and pasted from BANNED, as its a good discussion for this list: So, my 450SLC 5.0 has the all-heat-all-the-time thing going on. Everyone once in a while the climate control works exactly as it should, but about 95% of the time its just heat. I've been doing some diag, following the processes in the manual... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SL speedo problem... solved
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:16:50 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I love problems that are this easy! Congratulations! (And don't we all ... ) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kinda OT Car Purchasing Tips
Take cash, and unless it's a Gullwing, know there's always another one out there, probably even better. Always be prepared to walk away if you don't get the deal you want. Not Kaleb's tips, but they're ones I try to stick to. I think Kaleb just tells the sellers that he already has about 100 Mercedes at home. They become so intimidated, they just tell him to take the car, and leave whatever he thinks it's worth. If it's a really excellent car, he usually leaves about $500. hee hee Ed 300E On 16 March 2011 23:18, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: A while back Kaleb posted his negotiating tips he uses when purchasing a car. I thought I saved them but I though wrong. Can someone re-post them or perhaps suggest more? Thanks, Rick Who is too lazy to search the archives... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More junk
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:58 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Airmatic was standard in W211 Sport models. W211s near the end were good cars but 2003 to 2005 are to be avoided because of endless electronic problems. Same thing for W203s those years. Not junk at all, but useful info---thank you, Roger. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test
I have never done it so it seems to me that 3 hours might not be enough. I'm sure I spent that long on the Albatross. And it only had four holes! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time $$s for a compression test
$60 is a lot cheaper than finding out you need rings/new sleeves. Then again, unless you're there, they could just look in the FSM and split the difference, shooting for high-side, and you'd never know till it was too late... Walt, who has to be a pessimist today. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I have never done it so it seems to me that 3 hours might not be enough. I'm sure I spent that long on the Albatross. And it only had four holes! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More junk
Uhm, had a 2005 320 CDI for 4 years and never had an electrical problem. John On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:58 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Airmatic was standard in W211 Sport models. W211s near the end were good cars but 2003 to 2005 are to be avoided because of endless electronic problems. Same thing for W203s those years. Not junk at all, but useful info---thank you, Roger. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 wheels
126 chassis for sure. I am running 420SEL wheels on my '81 107. By the way these are 6 1/2 wide rims. The later 560SLs are 7 wide rims. Not sure is 560SEL rims may be 7 wide as well. Barry -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:10 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 107 wheels Need to get tires for the SL. It has 205/70-14 bundts on it. Everything else I have runs 15 wheels. TO standardize, I am pondering what other wheels will fit. Specifically, does anyone know if wheels off of a 123, 124 or 126 will fit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
