Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I wondered if Hammie might be a donor. Dwight Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:22:57 To: Diesel List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I wondered if Hammie might be a donor. Dwight Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:22:57 To: Diesel List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I wondered if Hammie might be a donor. Dwight Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:22:57 To: Diesel List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I wondered if Hammie might be a donor. Dwight Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:22:57 To: Diesel List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] multiple posts
No sure why 4 copies of that last post went. Been having trouble with e-mail on my crackberry. Wonder if it is the Verizon strike? Guess I need to take it in for fuse change.. Dwight Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 220K miles 1990 300D 2.5t 196K miles Wickford RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Clean E320?
Does 'clean' mean 'I just washed it', or should 'clean' mean 'there isn't a big hole in the front bumper'? Still kinda thinking of buying this one. Maybe sell the 16v and put my 190d turbo motor in a facelifted W124. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2526606462.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean E320?
Apparently it doesn't apply to under the hood. Looks like it was just pulled out from under a tree in someone's back yard. Lot's of cars in back yards around there, surprizing how many for in the cities. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 10:15 AM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > Does 'clean' mean 'I just washed it', or should 'clean' mean 'there isn't a big > hole in the front bumper'? > > Still kinda thinking of buying this one. > Maybe sell the 16v and put my 190d turbo motor in a facelifted W124. > > http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2526606462.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean E320?
I see what you mean about the cowl being full of tree droppings from last fall, but I only see one other vehicle and it's parked in a driveway (mobile home park). Or is the back yard comment a reference to some of the really old heaps I've posted in the past? Mitch. Michael Canfield wrote: Apparently it doesn't apply to under the hood. Looks like it was just pulled out from under a tree in someone's back yard. Lot's of cars in back yards around there, surprizing how many for in the cities. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 10:15 AM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: Does 'clean' mean 'I just washed it', or should 'clean' mean 'there isn't a big hole in the front bumper'? Still kinda thinking of buying this one. Maybe sell the 16v and put my 190d turbo motor in a facelifted W124. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2526606462.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean E320?
No. Just the amount of cars I see in the back yards in Detroit, Lansing, Deerborn, etc. when I have been out there. Seems folks around Detroit are "attached" to thier cars a bit more than average. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 10:36 AM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > I see what you mean about the cowl being full of tree droppings from last fall, > but I only see one other vehicle and it's parked in a driveway (mobile home > park). Or is the back yard comment a reference to some of the really old heaps > I've posted in the past? > > Mitch. > > Michael Canfield wrote: >> Apparently it doesn't apply to under the hood. Looks like it was just >> pulled out from under a tree in someone's back yard. Lot's of cars in back >> yards around there, surprizing how many for in the cities. >> >> Mike >> On Aug 7, 2011 10:15 AM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: >>> Does 'clean' mean 'I just washed it', or should 'clean' mean 'there isn't >> a big >>> hole in the front bumper'? >>> >>> Still kinda thinking of buying this one. >>> Maybe sell the 16v and put my 190d turbo motor in a facelifted W124. >>> >>> http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2526606462.html >>> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Late one afternoon in about 1993, SWMBO and I were departing DC southbound on our '80 240D during a heavy snow storm. As I approached the bridge near the Jefferson Memorial, traffic in the 2 or 3 or more lanes to the right was stalled, while a lane on the far left was clear. Of course, I took the open lane on the left and went whipping right on across the bridge. Soon after I was committed to this lane, I noticed that it was for multiple-occupancy (3 or more pass.) vehicles. Well, it was snowing very hard making for poor visibility, but the pavement was still clear - only wet - and I just kept cruising at 55 to 60 mph past hundreds of cars still stalled in all the lanes to my right. After a few minutes, SWMBO asked, "Why are we able to cruise along so freely, and all those other cars are just sitting there or creeping along so slowly?" I replied, "I don't know, but as long as this lane is clear, I'm gonna keep cruising south." I drove like that in that open left lane for probably 35 miles, until the lane ended, and I had to merge with "regular" traffic, which was moving freely by then. When I noticed that I had gotten into a multi-occupancy vehicle lane, I thought I'd cause more trouble by trying to get out of it, and it was snowing so hard, a cop could likely not see that there were only 2 in the vehicle, and it would cause more congestion to stop me, so I just kept cruising. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Could have been worse, took my sister 8 hours to get to the N. Carolina border one morning -- I95 is horrible and getting worse near DC. Glad the trip went well after the traffic cleared. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Well there is a 2-lane HOV section that runs down toward Fredricksburg, then merges with 3 lanes of I-95. The HOV lanes were moving along until about 2 miles before the merger, then they stopped as that two lanes had to merge into one lane of 3 backed-up lanes, which was probably causing the 3 regular lanes to back up for 20 or 30 miles. Insane. --R On 8/7/11 11:31 AM, WILTON wrote: Late one afternoon in about 1993, SWMBO and I were departing DC southbound on our '80 240D during a heavy snow storm. As I approached the bridge near the Jefferson Memorial, traffic in the 2 or 3 or more lanes to the right was stalled, while a lane on the far left was clear. Of course, I took the open lane on the left and went whipping right on across the bridge. Soon after I was committed to this lane, I noticed that it was for multiple-occupancy (3 or more pass.) vehicles. Well, it was snowing very hard making for poor visibility, but the pavement was still clear - only wet - and I just kept cruising at 55 to 60 mph past hundreds of cars still stalled in all the lanes to my right. After a few minutes, SWMBO asked, "Why are we able to cruise along so freely, and all those other cars are just sitting there or creeping along so slowly?" I replied, "I don't know, but as long as this lane is clear, I'm gonna keep cruising south." I drove like that in that open left lane for probably 35 miles, until the lane ended, and I had to merge with "regular" traffic, which was moving freely by then. When I noticed that I had gotten into a multi-occupancy vehicle lane, I thought I'd cause more trouble by trying to get out of it, and it was snowing so hard, a cop could likely not see that there were only 2 in the vehicle, and it would cause more congestion to stop me, so I just kept cruising. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Could have been worse, took my sister 8 hours to get to the N. Carolina border one morning -- I95 is horrible and getting worse near DC. Glad the trip went well after the traffic cleared. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
I'd never heard of the "War of Northern Aggression" as I grew up in Wisconsin. Initially I thought to myself that all these Southern folk should stop living in the past, but 10 years on I'm beginning to think there are a few good reasons to mark the difference between North and South. Each side has good and bad, I'll always be a Yankee, and I'm probably a better person for knowing both cultures. Also, down here if you go to Sunday service and the preacher allows the congregation to pick a song from the hymnal, don't ask for "Battle Hymn of the Republic". Trust me on that. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Rich Thomas wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > --R wrote: >> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >> South) and back to the South. > Tell us more. > I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of > what is meant. > For years I have thought I am really a suthren. > mao > >_ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the southern belles. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Plymouth van tranny question
We were cruising all around town (OKC metro area) lst week on a 110F in the shade day, with the AC on full blast. The car - 1 1997 Plymouth Grand Caravan, 3.3 engine, 115,000 miles - decided to only run in second gear. I stopped and checked the tranny fluid - it was a bit over full. Procedded to take the secondary roads home (about 25 miles), driving no more than 40 (3000 rpm or so). three blocks from home, the water temp started to shoot up rapidly so I turned off the AC. Got it in the drive before it hit the temp. red line. It's been sitting until today, when I took it out for a spin to see if it would shift or over heat. It did fine - acted normally. I did think I heard a low pitch whine when I first started it coming from the right front area - loader under the car, but couldn't identify anything wrong nor the source. Any guesses whether the high temps and over-full fluid was the cause, and it's OK, or do I need a new tranny before I drive it 2600 miles starting a week from now??? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the > southern belles. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there > since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both > Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the > temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there > than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode > my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! > > --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one > tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) > > PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just > to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. > > On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated > rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points > is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I > don't think so bro. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > Please do! > > --R > > On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, > the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in > particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is > denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, > moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. > > --R > > On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > --R wrote: > I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real > South) and back to the South. > Tell us more. > I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of > what is meant. > For years I have thought I am really a suthren. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the southern belles. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
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[MBZ] Brake Question
My recently acquired 83 300D had weak brakes when I bought it. The pedal was soft. While bleeding the system I found the front calipers were barely working. Rebuilt the calipers and now the breaks are still soft. Bled with a pressure system and I think I have all the air out. The pedal will pump up and then slowly sink under pressure. The system has 20 inches of vacuum at the tee to the brake booster. Seems I remember the pedal action is a sign of a bad brake master cylinder. Any opinions? Alan Duff Knoxville, Tn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Question
Leaky piston seals in master cylinder = sinking pedal, no loss of fluid. Leaking anything else = sinking pedal and loss of fluid. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
I can assure that everyone in the South does not have the same accent. Wilton, born and raised in Eastern NC; somewhat mid-western, neutral accent. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dimitri Seretakis" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the southern belles. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
GeeI've lived in the North and South. I've lived in big cities and I've lived in the country. They all contain incestuous, toothless, rednecks of all colors and nationalities. They all contain bigoted and narrow minded people. They all contain open, warm, and friendly people. They all contain people who are well versed on current events as well as those who don't have a clue. I think we sometimes find what we are looking for. I'm currently in the country and in the South. I'm quite happy. I hope everyone else is happy where they are as well. If you aren't, then move...I'm sure you'll find somewhere you like. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Far from it, I can distinguish a VA accent from NC from SC from Charleston from LA from OK, and there's probably more out there that I haven't heard, not to mention Gullah which is really a dialect. Max Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower >class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same >accent. > >Sent from my iPhone > -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in the North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta good po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: > Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. > > --R > > On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > --R wrote: > I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real > South) and back to the South. > Tell us more. > I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of > what is meant. > For years I have thought I am really a suthren. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Absolutely. I even lived in GA for 6 years. Wilton - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update GeeI've lived in the North and South. I've lived in big cities and I've lived in the country. They all contain incestuous, toothless, rednecks of all colors and nationalities. They all contain bigoted and narrow minded people. They all contain open, warm, and friendly people. They all contain people who are well versed on current events as well as those who don't have a clue. I think we sometimes find what we are looking for. I'm currently in the country and in the South. I'm quite happy. I hope everyone else is happy where they are as well. If you aren't, then move...I'm sure you'll find somewhere you like. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain about Northerners, as we've seen here. While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about every minority you can think of lives here. Jaime -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily in one community. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class > trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: > > I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius > as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to > Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis >wrote: > > Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the > southern belles. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there > since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both > Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the > temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up > there > than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just > rode > my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! > > --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one > tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) > > PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just > to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. > > On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated > rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points > is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! > I > don't think so bro. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > Please do! > > --R > > On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, > the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in > particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is > denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, > moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. > > --R > > On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > --R wrote: > I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real > South) and back to the South. > Tell us more. > I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of > what is meant. > For years I have thought I am really a suthren. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 1992 300D 2.5T > 1990 300D 2.5T > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/m
Re: [MBZ] Brake Question
Yup. Sounds like the cups (seals) in your master cylinder are worn or bad. One other thing to check before you replace it: Make sure the clevis is allowing the piston to return all the way to the end of the bore. You can do this by checking that the pedal comes all the way up and that there is clearance between the clevis and the piston when the brake pedal is at rest. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:02 PM, aland...@knology.net wrote: > > > My recently acquired 83 300D had weak brakes when I bought it. The pedal was > soft. While bleeding the system I found the front calipers were barely > working. Rebuilt the calipers and now the breaks are still soft. Bled with a > pressure system and I think I have all the air out. The pedal will pump up > and then slowly sink under pressure. The system has 20 inches of vacuum at > the tee to the brake booster. Seems I remember the pedal action is a sign of > a bad brake master cylinder. Any opinions? > > Alan Duff > Knoxville, Tn > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Very true Jaime. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 3:33 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski" wrote: > Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and > still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, > Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away > from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. > (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) > > Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern > themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees > think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think > about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the > world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. > > Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain > about Northerners, as we've seen here. > > While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost > of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, > of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about > every minority you can think of lives here. > > Jaime > -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily > in one community. > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >> The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class >> trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: >> >> I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius >> as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to >> Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- >> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis > >wrote: >> >> Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the >> southern belles. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there >> since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both >> Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the >> temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up >> there >> than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just >> rode >> my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! >> >> --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one >> tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) >> >> PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just >> to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. >> >> On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >> Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated >> rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points >> is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! >> I >> don't think so bro. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> Please do! >> >> --R >> >> On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, >> the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in >> particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is >> denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, >> moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. >> >> --R >> >> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >> --R wrote: >> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >> South) and back to the South. >> Tell us more. >> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of >> what is meant. >> For years I have thought I am really a suthren. >> mao >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> 2001 ML320 >> 1992 300D 2.5T >> 1990 300D 2.5T >> 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.
Re: [MBZ] Brake Question
Like Mitch said, sounds like a master cylinder. On a car that old, you should replace the four rubber hoses. You'll be amazing by the improvement in pedal feel, and you reduce you chances of be stranded by a seized up brake significantly. Jaime On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 3:02 PM, wrote: > > > My recently acquired 83 300D had weak brakes when I bought it. The pedal > was soft. While bleeding the system I found the front calipers were barely > working. Rebuilt the calipers and now the breaks are still soft. Bled with a > pressure system and I think I have all the air out. The pedal will pump up > and then slowly sink under pressure. The system has 20 inches of vacuum at > the tee to the brake booster. Seems I remember the pedal action is a sign of > a bad brake master cylinder. Any opinions? > > Alan Duff > Knoxville, Tn > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Question
Right on the money. Time for a master cylinder or a rebiuld. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 3:36 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > Yup. Sounds like the cups (seals) in your master cylinder are worn or bad. > > One other thing to check before you replace it: > > Make sure the clevis is allowing the piston to return all the way to the end of the bore. > > You can do this by checking that the pedal comes all the way up and that there is clearance between the clevis and the piston when the brake pedal is at rest. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:02 PM, aland...@knology.net wrote: > >> >> >> My recently acquired 83 300D had weak brakes when I bought it. The pedal was soft. While bleeding the system I found the front calipers were barely working. Rebuilt the calipers and now the breaks are still soft. Bled with a pressure system and I think I have all the air out. The pedal will pump up and then slowly sink under pressure. The system has 20 inches of vacuum at the tee to the brake booster. Seems I remember the pedal action is a sign of a bad brake master cylinder. Any opinions? >> >> Alan Duff >> Knoxville, Tn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Plymouth van tranny question
I would check grounds. Sounds like the trans is not shifting into od and lockup when there is a high electrical load. Try to run lights, ac, etc and see if trans acts up again. Negative battery terminal was bad on the last Chrysler product that gave me very similar issues. Had to drive slow with the heater or headlights on. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 2:38 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > We were cruising all around town (OKC metro area) lst week on a 110F in the > shade day, with the AC on full blast. The car - 1 1997 Plymouth Grand > Caravan, 3.3 engine, 115,000 miles - decided to only run in second gear. I > stopped and checked the tranny fluid - it was a bit over full. Procedded to > take the secondary roads home (about 25 miles), driving no more than 40 > (3000 rpm or so). three blocks from home, the water temp started to shoot up > rapidly so I turned off the AC. Got it in the drive before it hit the temp. > red line. It's been sitting until today, when I took it out for a spin to > see if it would shift or over heat. It did fine - acted normally. I did > think I heard a low pitch whine when I first started it coming from the > right front area - loader under the car, but couldn't identify anything > wrong nor the source. > > Any guesses whether the high temps and over-full fluid was the cause, and > it's OK, or do I need a new tranny before I drive it 2600 miles starting a > week from now??? > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 1992 300D 2.5T > 1990 300D 2.5T > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
I, to can easily and readily distinguish accents from different areas, even MI from MN, NE, Dakotas, etc., or VA from NC and different areas within NC. BTW, I may have reacquired a bit of Southern since my return to NC 32 years ago. Everybody has some sort of an accent, and that's O. K. - it doesn't mean that one is any smarter, or whatever, than another. I've even learned to understand that "youse guys" really means "y'all." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Far from it, I can distinguish a VA accent from NC from SC from Charleston from LA from OK, and there's probably more out there that I haven't heard, not to mention Gullah which is really a dialect. Max Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Yup. Northerners are generally less bigotted. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain about Northerners, as we've seen here. While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about every minority you can think of lives here. Jaime -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily in one community. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mai
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Youse guys definitely sounds worst than y'all. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:44 PM, "WILTON" wrote: I, to can easily and readily distinguish accents from different areas, even MI from MN, NE, Dakotas, etc., or VA from NC and different areas within NC. BTW, I may have reacquired a bit of Southern since my return to NC 32 years ago. Everybody has some sort of an accent, and that's O. K. - it doesn't mean that one is any smarter, or whatever, than another. I've even learned to understand that "youse guys" really means "y'all." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Far from it, I can distinguish a VA accent from NC from SC from Charleston from LA from OK, and there's probably more out there that I haven't heard, not to mention Gullah which is really a dialect. Max Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Question
Master cylinder is leaking internally, time to replace it. Just did this job on my E300; I bought some fish tank air tubing at Wallyworld to help bleed. Drained and removed reservoir first, then disconnected all the lines at the MC. Replaced the MC and put everything back together, filled the reservoir, connected air tubing from caliper bleed bolt on left front wheel And ran it back to the opening in the reservoir, opened the bleed bolt and commenced pumping the brake pedal until all the air was out of the front circuit, and then gravity bled rear circuit at left rear wheel. All this in a hotel parking garage. Had the MC new from Rusty for about a month before I had time to do the deed. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. aland...@knology.net wrote: My recently acquired 83 300D had weak brakes when I bought it. The pedal was soft. While bleeding the system I found the front calipers were barely working. Rebuilt the calipers and now the breaks are still soft. Bled with a pressure system and I think I have all the air out. The pedal will pump up and then slowly sink under pressure. The system has 20 inches of vacuum at the tee to the brake booster. Seems I remember the pedal action is a sign of a bad brake master cylinder. Any opinions? Alan Duff Knoxville, Tn _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Plymouth van tranny question
OK - will do. The tranny is working fine right now - full blast AC, but no lights. It is only 95 today, so 15 degrees cooler than when we had the problem. It was stuck in 2nd. - started in second, and would not shift out. I didn't have the presence of mind to check reverse when i got home - wish I had. There is some corrosion on the battery terminals, though not gross. I'll clean them next. I did suck out about a cup of fluid, the level seems to be right at the top of the max line now, though it's real hard to see the oil level clearly. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > I would check grounds. Sounds like the trans is not shifting into od and > lockup when there is a high electrical load. Try to run lights, ac, etc > and > see if trans acts up again. Negative battery terminal was bad on the last > Chrysler product that gave me very similar issues. Had to drive slow with > the heater or headlights on. > > Mike > On Aug 7, 2011 2:38 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > > We were cruising all around town (OKC metro area) lst week on a 110F in > the > > shade day, with the AC on full blast. The car - 1 1997 Plymouth Grand > > Caravan, 3.3 engine, 115,000 miles - decided to only run in second gear. > I > > stopped and checked the tranny fluid - it was a bit over full. Procedded > to > > take the secondary roads home (about 25 miles), driving no more than 40 > > (3000 rpm or so). three blocks from home, the water temp started to shoot > up > > rapidly so I turned off the AC. Got it in the drive before it hit the > temp. > > red line. It's been sitting until today, when I took it out for a spin to > > see if it would shift or over heat. It did fine - acted normally. I did > > think I heard a low pitch whine when I first started it coming from the > > right front area - loader under the car, but couldn't identify anything > > wrong nor the source. > > > > Any guesses whether the high temps and over-full fluid was the cause, and > > it's OK, or do I need a new tranny before I drive it 2600 miles starting > a > > week from now??? > > > > -- > > OK Don > > 2001 ML320 > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Hah! Think about what you just said. Your statement says a lot about your own prejudices... Max (Yankee with his own set of prejudices, which is generally what every human does to try to order the world around him) -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yup. Northerners are generally less bigotted. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain about Northerners, as we've seen here. While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about every minority you can think of lives here. Jaime -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily in one community. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery o
Re: [MBZ] OT - Plymouth van tranny question
Don't know that models quirks but it follows current computer logic built into todays cars to default to a "limp home mode" when something/anything violates the electronic boundaries preloaded. With full air, heat, and what ever other stressors may have been at play perhaps one of those triggers got pulled. Perhaps a code pull at your local friendly shop would be in order. It is common for transmission shift points to be keyed to engine load sensors and a raft load of other twitchy electronics. Intermittent electrical problems are the worst. If you get luck, something recorded one. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:31 PM, OK Don wrote: > OK - will do. The tranny is working fine right now - full blast AC, but no > lights. It is only 95 today, so 15 degrees cooler than when we had the > problem. > > It was stuck in 2nd. - started in second, and would not shift out. I didn't > have the presence of mind to check reverse when i got home - wish I had. > > There is some corrosion on the battery terminals, though not gross. I'll > clean them next. I did suck out about a cup of fluid, the level seems to be > right at the top of the max line now, though it's real hard to see the oil > level clearly. > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Michael Canfield >wrote: > > > I would check grounds. Sounds like the trans is not shifting into od and > > lockup when there is a high electrical load. Try to run lights, ac, etc > > and > > see if trans acts up again. Negative battery terminal was bad on the > last > > Chrysler product that gave me very similar issues. Had to drive slow > with > > the heater or headlights on. > > > > Mike > > On Aug 7, 2011 2:38 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > > > We were cruising all around town (OKC metro area) lst week on a 110F in > > the > > > shade day, with the AC on full blast. The car - 1 1997 Plymouth Grand > > > Caravan, 3.3 engine, 115,000 miles - decided to only run in second > gear. > > I > > > stopped and checked the tranny fluid - it was a bit over full. > Procedded > > to > > > take the secondary roads home (about 25 miles), driving no more than 40 > > > (3000 rpm or so). three blocks from home, the water temp started to > shoot > > up > > > rapidly so I turned off the AC. Got it in the drive before it hit the > > temp. > > > red line. It's been sitting until today, when I took it out for a spin > to > > > see if it would shift or over heat. It did fine - acted normally. I did > > > think I heard a low pitch whine when I first started it coming from the > > > right front area - loader under the car, but couldn't identify anything > > > wrong nor the source. > > > > > > Any guesses whether the high temps and over-full fluid was the cause, > and > > > it's OK, or do I need a new tranny before I drive it 2600 miles > starting > > a > > > week from now??? > > > > > > -- > > > OK Don > > > 2001 ML320 > > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 1992 300D 2.5T > 1990 300D 2.5T > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Plymouth van tranny question
Duh! Never even thought to look for codes, since no idiot lights lit up -- I'll see if my generic OBDii reader can find anything. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:40 PM, G Mann wrote: > Don't know that models quirks but it follows current computer logic built > into todays cars to default to a "limp home mode" when something/anything > violates the electronic boundaries preloaded. > > With full air, heat, and what ever other stressors may have been at play > perhaps one of those triggers got pulled. Perhaps a code pull at your > local > friendly shop would be in order. > It is common for transmission shift points to be keyed to engine load > sensors and a raft load of other twitchy electronics. > > Intermittent electrical problems are the worst. If you get luck, something > recorded one. > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:31 PM, OK Don wrote: > > > OK - will do. The tranny is working fine right now - full blast AC, but > no > > lights. It is only 95 today, so 15 degrees cooler than when we had the > > problem. > > > > It was stuck in 2nd. - started in second, and would not shift out. I > didn't > > have the presence of mind to check reverse when i got home - wish I had. > > > > There is some corrosion on the battery terminals, though not gross. I'll > > clean them next. I did suck out about a cup of fluid, the level seems to > be > > right at the top of the max line now, though it's real hard to see the > oil > > level clearly. > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Michael Canfield > >wrote: > > > > > I would check grounds. Sounds like the trans is not shifting into od > and > > > lockup when there is a high electrical load. Try to run lights, ac, > etc > > > and > > > see if trans acts up again. Negative battery terminal was bad on the > > last > > > Chrysler product that gave me very similar issues. Had to drive slow > > with > > > the heater or headlights on. > > > > > > Mike > > > On Aug 7, 2011 2:38 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > > > > We were cruising all around town (OKC metro area) lst week on a 110F > in > > > the > > > > shade day, with the AC on full blast. The car - 1 1997 Plymouth Grand > > > > Caravan, 3.3 engine, 115,000 miles - decided to only run in second > > gear. > > > I > > > > stopped and checked the tranny fluid - it was a bit over full. > > Procedded > > > to > > > > take the secondary roads home (about 25 miles), driving no more than > 40 > > > > (3000 rpm or so). three blocks from home, the water temp started to > > shoot > > > up > > > > rapidly so I turned off the AC. Got it in the drive before it hit the > > > temp. > > > > red line. It's been sitting until today, when I took it out for a > spin > > to > > > > see if it would shift or over heat. It did fine - acted normally. I > did > > > > think I heard a low pitch whine when I first started it coming from > the > > > > right front area - loader under the car, but couldn't identify > anything > > > > wrong nor the source. > > > > > > > > Any guesses whether the high temps and over-full fluid was the cause, > > and > > > > it's OK, or do I need a new tranny before I drive it 2600 miles > > starting > > > a > > > > week from now??? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > OK Don > > > > 2001 ML320 > > > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > 2001 ML320 > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz
[MBZ] 306d
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump. Need something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy. I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it. I have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them for putting on CL. What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty? Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
If it's Mercedes, Rusty can get parts for it. :) Check what new glass is before going for it. Walt On Aug 7, 2011 5:50 PM, "redghost" wrote: > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html > > I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump. Need something > that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy. I > had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it. I > have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them > for putting on CL. > > What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty? > > Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? > > > > clay > > 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs > 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Plymouth van tranny question
Yeah... that's what you get for going to the dark side and driving one of those silly little computer controlled machines. Come back to the dependable mechanical Mercedes era when something broke off you could see it hanging and duct tape it in place till you got home. :)) I wonder how many cars and Iphones will fail when this next round of super sun spots hits... or god forbid we have a nuke EMP somewhere flash the sensitive electronics everyone has come to depend on. I don't see a happy ending. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:47 PM, OK Don wrote: > Duh! Never even thought to look for codes, since no idiot lights lit up -- > I'll see if my generic OBDii reader can find anything. > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:40 PM, G Mann wrote: > > > Don't know that models quirks but it follows current computer logic built > > into todays cars to default to a "limp home mode" when something/anything > > violates the electronic boundaries preloaded. > > > > With full air, heat, and what ever other stressors may have been at play > > perhaps one of those triggers got pulled. Perhaps a code pull at your > > local > > friendly shop would be in order. > > It is common for transmission shift points to be keyed to engine load > > sensors and a raft load of other twitchy electronics. > > > > Intermittent electrical problems are the worst. If you get luck, > something > > recorded one. > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:31 PM, OK Don wrote: > > > > > OK - will do. The tranny is working fine right now - full blast AC, but > > no > > > lights. It is only 95 today, so 15 degrees cooler than when we had the > > > problem. > > > > > > It was stuck in 2nd. - started in second, and would not shift out. I > > didn't > > > have the presence of mind to check reverse when i got home - wish I > had. > > > > > > There is some corrosion on the battery terminals, though not gross. > I'll > > > clean them next. I did suck out about a cup of fluid, the level seems > to > > be > > > right at the top of the max line now, though it's real hard to see the > > oil > > > level clearly. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Michael Canfield > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I would check grounds. Sounds like the trans is not shifting into od > > and > > > > lockup when there is a high electrical load. Try to run lights, ac, > > etc > > > > and > > > > see if trans acts up again. Negative battery terminal was bad on the > > > last > > > > Chrysler product that gave me very similar issues. Had to drive slow > > > with > > > > the heater or headlights on. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > On Aug 7, 2011 2:38 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > > > > > We were cruising all around town (OKC metro area) lst week on a > 110F > > in > > > > the > > > > > shade day, with the AC on full blast. The car - 1 1997 Plymouth > Grand > > > > > Caravan, 3.3 engine, 115,000 miles - decided to only run in second > > > gear. > > > > I > > > > > stopped and checked the tranny fluid - it was a bit over full. > > > Procedded > > > > to > > > > > take the secondary roads home (about 25 miles), driving no more > than > > 40 > > > > > (3000 rpm or so). three blocks from home, the water temp started to > > > shoot > > > > up > > > > > rapidly so I turned off the AC. Got it in the drive before it hit > the > > > > temp. > > > > > red line. It's been sitting until today, when I took it out for a > > spin > > > to > > > > > see if it would shift or over heat. It did fine - acted normally. I > > did > > > > > think I heard a low pitch whine when I first started it coming from > > the > > > > > right front area - loader under the car, but couldn't identify > > anything > > > > > wrong nor the source. > > > > > > > > > > Any guesses whether the high temps and over-full fluid was the > cause, > > > and > > > > > it's OK, or do I need a new tranny before I drive it 2600 miles > > > starting > > > > a > > > > > week from now??? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > OK Don > > > > > 2001 ML320 > > > > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > > > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > > > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > OK Don > > > 2001 ML320 > > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okieb
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Me gots all me teef Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated > rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points > is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I > don't think so bro. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas > wrote: > > Please do! > > --R > > On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich > Thomas wrote: > > I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the > more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), > the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower > and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then > to SC, I could never go back up north. > > --R > > On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > --R wrote: > I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real > South) and back to the South. > Tell us more. > I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of > what is meant. > For years I have thought I am really a suthren. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies also, they are called mainers Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in the > North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta good > po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. > > Mike > On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: >> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, > the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in > particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is > denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, > moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. >> >> --R >> >> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >> --R wrote: >> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >> South) and back to the South. >> Tell us more. >> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of >> what is meant. >> For years I have thought I am really a suthren. >> mao >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All I can say is traveling up north for over a week I found folks to be generally more rude that folks in the south, but that's just me Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and > still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, > Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away > from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. > (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) > > Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern > themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees > think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think > about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the > world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. > > Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain > about Northerners, as we've seen here. > > While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost > of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, > of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about > every minority you can think of lives here. > > Jaime > -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily > in one community. > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >> The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class >> trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: >> >> I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius >> as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to >> Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- >> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis >> wrote: >> >> Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the >> southern belles. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there >> since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both >> Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the >> temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up >> there >> than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just >> rode >> my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! >> >> --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one >> tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) >> >> PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just >> to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. >> >> On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >> Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated >> rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points >> is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! >> I >> don't think so bro. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> Please do! >> >> --R >> >> On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, >> the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in >> particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is >> denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, >> moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. >> >> --R >> >> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >> --R wrote: >> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >> South) and back to the South. >> Tell us more. >> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of >> what is meant. >> For years I have thought I am really a suthren. >> mao >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_ok
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Hey Deliverance took place in the Georgia woods! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:01 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies also, they are called mainers Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in the North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta good po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Less bigoted maybe but that does not equal less rude. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Yup. Northerners are generally less bigotted. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and > still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, > Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away > from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. > (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) > > Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern > themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees > think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think > about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the > world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. > > Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain > about Northerners, as we've seen here. > > While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost > of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, > of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about > every minority you can think of lives here. > > Jaime > -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily > in one community. > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class > trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes I have prejudices the way all of humanity does. There is not one human being on this planet without them. I am however not a biggot. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Hah! Think about what you just said. Your statement says a lot about your own prejudices... Max (Yankee with his own set of prejudices, which is generally what every human does to try to order the world around him) -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yup. Northerners are generally less bigotted. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain about Northerners, as we've seen here. While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about every minority you can think of lives here. Jaime -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily in one community. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager __
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For the most part you are right Kaleb. There is no such thing as manners in the Northeast anymore. There is no more yes sir and yes ma'am, you are lucky to get a thank you at a convenience store and everyone is in such a big hurry they just run you right over. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 6:03 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > All I can say is traveling up north for over a week I found folks to be generally more rude that folks in the south, but that's just me > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > >> Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and >> still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, >> Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away >> from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. >> (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) >> >> Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern >> themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees >> think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think >> about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the >> world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. >> >> Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain >> about Northerners, as we've seen here. >> >> While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost >> of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, >> of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about >> every minority you can think of lives here. >> >> Jaime >> -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily >> in one community. >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >> >>> The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class >>> trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: >>> >>> I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius >>> as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to >>> Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the >>> southern belles. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < >>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >>> >>> Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there >>> since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both >>> Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the >>> temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up >>> there >>> than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just >>> rode >>> my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! >>> >>> --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one >>> tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) >>> >>> PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just >>> to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. >>> >>> On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >>> Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated >>> rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points >>> is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! >>> I >>> don't think so bro. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< >>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >>> >>> Please do! >>> >>> --R >>> >>> On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >>> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< >>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >>> >>> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, >>> the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in >>> particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is >>> denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, >>> moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >>> --R wrote: >>> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >>> South) and back to the South. >>> Tell us more. >>> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of >>> what is meant. >>> For years I have thought I am really a suthren. >>> mao >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscri
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Ya evah been tah Bahstahn? The most racist, ethnicist, intolerant place I have ever been. And they have just about one of everyone there too, and most of them hate each other, "just because." --R On 8/7/11 3:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about every minority you can think of lives here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
Too cool for words. The only trouble you're going to have if you get it is all the listers showing up on your doorstep wanting to take it for a ride... -Curt Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:50:27 -0700 From: redghost To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 306d Message-ID: <137e0bc2-1d31-48e9-8bcf-c59c946d5...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump. Need something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy. I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it. I have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them for putting on CL. What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty? Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Boo, buddy... -Curt >From NORTHERN Maine. Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 17:01:00 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies also, they are called mainers Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
Be careful it loosed it's breaks, the petal goes to the flower. --R On 8/7/11 5:50 PM, redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump. Need something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy. I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it. I have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them for putting on CL. What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty? Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
GRITS! --R On 8/7/11 2:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the southern belles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
E Plurbus Unim Lived all over this country and the world in countries that were on the CIA "don't go list"... With all due respect to Dimitri's belief that the "north is civilized".. I'll take a night in the woods with a bunch of drunk redneck hillbillies over a night on the street in any northern "inner city". The chances of walking out of either with my manly virtue, my wallet, and my life would balance toward the redneck crowd. To each his own... that's what makes this country great. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies > also, they are called mainers > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > > > Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in > the > > North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta > good > > po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. > > > > Mike > > On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" > wrote: > >> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < > > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > >> > >> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you > go, > > the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in > > particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is > > denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, > > moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. > >> > >> --R > >> > >> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > >> --R wrote: > >> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real > >> South) and back to the South. > >> Tell us more. > >> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of > >> what is meant. > >> For years I have thought I am really a suthren. > >> mao > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
Rich, your slippin', only 5 in one sentence? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 306d Be careful it loosed it's breaks, the petal goes to the flower. --R On 8/7/11 5:50 PM, redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump. Need something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy. I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it. I have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them for putting on CL. What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty? Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
Been doing web search and I find that much of the parts I have as spare for Gump will fit this engine as well. So I will have injectors, glow, filters, gaskets and more in stock clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Too cool for words. The only trouble you're going to have if you get it is all the listers showing up on your doorstep wanting to take it for a ride... -Curt Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:50:27 -0700 From: redghost To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 306d Message-ID: <137e0bc2-1d31-48e9-8bcf-c59c946d5...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump. Need something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy. I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it. I have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them for putting on CL. What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty? Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Don't go downtown Birmingham, AL late at night by yourself.. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 6:26 PM, "G Mann" wrote: > E Plurbus Unim > > Lived all over this country and the world in countries that were on the CIA > "don't go list"... > > With all due respect to Dimitri's belief that the "north is civilized".. > I'll take a night in the woods with a bunch of drunk redneck hillbillies > over a night on the street in any northern "inner city". The chances of > walking out of either with my manly virtue, my wallet, and my life would > balance toward the redneck crowd. > > To each his own... that's what makes this country great. > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies >> also, they are called mainers >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: >> >> > Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in >> the >> > North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta >> good >> > po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. >> > >> > Mike >> > On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" >> wrote: >> >> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < >> > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you >> go, >> > the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in >> > particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is >> > denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, >> > moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. >> >> >> >> --R >> >> >> >> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >> >> --R wrote: >> >> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >> >> South) and back to the South. >> >> Tell us more. >> >> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of >> >> what is meant. >> >> For years I have thought I am really a suthren. >> >> mao >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
Yeah. I would want to arrange for it to get a rebuild to the breaks so I do not poosh the petal all the weigh threw the flower. That will allow me to break and not loose control of the truck clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Be careful it loosed it's breaks, the petal goes to the flower. --R On 8/7/11 5:50 PM, redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump. Need something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might come in handy. I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it died we got rid of it. I have far too many parts in storage and now no way to transport them for putting on CL. What should I be on the look out for with this little beauty? Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Plymouth van tranny question
Grant wrote: > ... or god forbid we have a nuke EMP somewhere flash the > sensitive electronics everyone has come to depend on. I don't see a happy > ending. Check out ttbook.org - waiting for the apocalypse today on npr. There is more likely EMP than ever before. Interesting show today. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Yea it did, you know I have never seen that movie which reminds me I need to rent it Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Hey Deliverance took place in the Georgia woods! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:01 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies also, > they are called mainers > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > > Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in the > North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta good > po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. > > Mike > On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: > Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, > the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in > particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is > denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, > moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. > > --R > > On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > --R wrote: > I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real > South) and back to the South. > Tell us more. > I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of > what is meant. > For years I have thought I am really a suthren. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
It's about the same down my way Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > For the most part you are right Kaleb. There is no such thing as manners in > the Northeast anymore. There is no more yes sir and yes ma'am, you are > lucky to get a thank you at a convenience store and everyone is in such a > big hurry they just run you right over. > > Mike > On Aug 7, 2011 6:03 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: >> All I can say is traveling up north for over a week I found folks to be > generally more rude that folks in the south, but that's just me >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: >> >>> Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and >>> still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, >>> Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away >>> from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. >>> (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" > there.) >>> >>> Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns > concern >>> themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees >>> think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think >>> about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the >>> world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. >>> >>> Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to > complain >>> about Northerners, as we've seen here. >>> >>> While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high > cost >>> of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, >>> of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about >>> every minority you can think of lives here. >>> >>> Jaime >>> -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living > happily >>> in one community. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: >>> The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower > class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as > obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the southern belles. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up > there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio > one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, > just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 > points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% > humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you > go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understandin
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
I was just there why didn't I see you? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Boo, buddy... > > -Curt > From NORTHERN Maine. > > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 17:01:00 -0500 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies also, > they are called mainers > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
--R wrote: > Be careful it loosed it's breaks, the petal goes to the flower. Throw us some gullah, also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
You my friend have never been to any of the great northern cities. By that I mean: Portland, Maine Bangor, Maine Concord, NH Burlington, VT Your virtue and wallet would be safe (well relatively safe, or rather as safe as anywhere) in those places any time of day or night... In actual factual Boston is quite a safe city. Back when I was but a college freshman my best friend went to BU and we'd go have noodles in Chinatown at 2am. Spent time talking to hookers and pimps, almost got mugged once but convinced the dude he was wasting his time as we had nothing of value. In all the nights we spent in places we really shouldn't have been we were only accosted that one time... My friend later went to Vassar and would run into NYC and hang out in the worst areas of Harlem. He'd literally go looking for trouble. Never did get into anything serious luckily. He teaches English in Japan now... -Curt Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 15:26:24 -0700 From: G Mann To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 E Plurbus Unim Lived all over this country and the world in countries that were on the CIA "don't go list"... With all due respect to Dimitri's belief that the "north is civilized".. I'll take a night in the woods with a bunch of drunk redneck hillbillies over a night on the street in any northern "inner city". The chances of walking out of either with my manly virtue, my wallet, and my life would balance toward the redneck crowd. To each his own... that's what makes this country great. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Bangor seems to have a huge drug problem right now. Where do you live? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > You my friend have never been to any of the great northern cities. By that I > mean: > Portland, Maine > Bangor, Maine > Concord, NH > Burlington, VT > Your virtue and wallet would be safe (well relatively safe, or rather as safe > as anywhere) in those places any time of day or night... > > In actual factual Boston is quite a safe city. Back when I was but a college > freshman my best friend went to BU and we'd go have noodles in Chinatown at > 2am. Spent time talking to hookers and pimps, almost got mugged once but > convinced the dude he was wasting his time as we had nothing of value. In all > the nights we spent in places we really shouldn't have been we were only > accosted that one time... > My friend later went to Vassar and would run into NYC and hang out in the > worst areas of Harlem. He'd literally go looking for trouble. Never did get > into anything serious luckily. He teaches English in Japan now... > > -Curt > > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 15:26:24 -0700 > From: G Mann > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > E Plurbus Unim > > Lived all over this country and the world in countries that were on the CIA > "don't go list"... > > With all due respect to Dimitri's belief that the "north is civilized".. > I'll take a night in the woods with a bunch of drunk redneck hillbillies > over a night on the street in any northern "inner city". The chances of > walking out of either with my manly virtue, my wallet, and my life would > balance toward the redneck crowd. > > To each his own... that's what makes this country great. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Kaleb, et al. No less bigoted, just sneakier with it. The people "up here" are rude, and have the "ME first, last and always, I can't see you at all!" attitude. I am accused of having an accent, to which I reply, "I am speaking English, YOU have an accent!" With a smile too! Laughter is the best relaxer. (Right after a pint of something good.) "Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out of it alive!" Is it Friday yet? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 8/7/2011 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Less bigoted maybe but that does not equal less rude. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Question
aland...@knology.net writes: > The pedal will pump up and then slowly sink under pressure. Isn't this the classic symptom of a bad master cylinder? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
redghost writes: > Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? Some of the engine parts maybe, I think it's an OM615. Many others may be unobtanium. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bangor seems to have a huge drug problem right now. I thought Jeremy went to California or something. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
Poked around the interwebs and MBCA site. Classic center is snobbish and told one guy with a van/bus, he has to source stuff out of Freightliner. It is a old version of the sprinter, so why not? clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 7, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Allan Streib wrote: redghost writes: Wonder if Rusty has parts, or will I have to fleabay for parts? Some of the engine parts maybe, I think it's an OM615. Many others may be unobtanium. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
You mean they are NOT called Mainiacs? Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies also, they are called mainers Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in the > North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta good > po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. > > Mike > On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: >> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, > the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in > particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is > denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, > moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. >> >> --R >> >> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >> --R wrote: >> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >> South) and back to the South. >> Tell us more. >> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of >> what is meant. >> For years I have thought I am really a suthren. >> mao >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
No he is in prison in maine Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> Bangor seems to have a huge drug problem right now. > > I thought Jeremy went to California or something. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Oh yea that's what they are called Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:05 PM, "Greg Fiorentino" wrote: > You mean they are NOT called Mainiacs? > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:01 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update > > Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies > also, they are called mainers > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > >> Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in the >> North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta good >> po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. >> >> Mike >> On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: >>> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >>> >>> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, >> the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in >> particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is >> denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, >> moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >>> --R wrote: >>> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >>> South) and back to the South. >>> Tell us more. >>> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of >>> what is meant. >>> For years I have thought I am really a suthren. >>> mao >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No he is in prison in maine Not for homicide, I assume. Did they bust him for something serious like jaywalking this time? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
That looks like a Hanomag which was acquired by Daimler-Benz long ago. Google Hanomag for pictures. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
A. You were downeast, I forget the town, tell me again B. I live in Mass... -Curt Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 17:46:58 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I was just there why didn't I see you? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Boo, buddy... > > -Curt > From NORTHERN Maine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Everywhere has a "big drug problem" right now. North central MA, right on the NH line. -Curt Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:09:01 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Bangor seems to have a huge drug problem right now. Where do you live? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Plymouth van tranny question
Yup - I've definitaly crossed to the dark side, I have an ML! No codes to be read. I cleaned the battery posts, didn't see anything else to clean. I'll change the tranny fluid and filter, they're getting close to being due anyway. SWMBO will be driving it this coming week, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:56 PM, G Mann wrote: > Yeah... that's what you get for going to the dark side and driving one of > those silly little computer controlled machines. Come back to the > dependable mechanical Mercedes era when something broke off you could see > it > hanging and duct tape it in place till you got home. :)) > > I wonder how many cars and Iphones will fail when this next round of super > sun spots hits... or god forbid we have a nuke EMP somewhere flash the > sensitive electronics everyone has come to depend on. I don't see a happy > ending. > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:47 PM, OK Don wrote: > > > Duh! Never even thought to look for codes, since no idiot lights lit up > -- > > I'll see if my generic OBDii reader can find anything. > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:40 PM, G Mann wrote: > > > > > Don't know that models quirks but it follows current computer logic > built > > > into todays cars to default to a "limp home mode" when > something/anything > > > violates the electronic boundaries preloaded. > > > > > > With full air, heat, and what ever other stressors may have been at > play > > > perhaps one of those triggers got pulled. Perhaps a code pull at your > > > local > > > friendly shop would be in order. > > > It is common for transmission shift points to be keyed to engine load > > > sensors and a raft load of other twitchy electronics. > > > > > > Intermittent electrical problems are the worst. If you get luck, > > something > > > recorded one. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:31 PM, OK Don wrote: > > > > > > > OK - will do. The tranny is working fine right now - full blast AC, > but > > > no > > > > lights. It is only 95 today, so 15 degrees cooler than when we had > the > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > It was stuck in 2nd. - started in second, and would not shift out. I > > > didn't > > > > have the presence of mind to check reverse when i got home - wish I > > had. > > > > > > > > There is some corrosion on the battery terminals, though not gross. > > I'll > > > > clean them next. I did suck out about a cup of fluid, the level seems > > to > > > be > > > > right at the top of the max line now, though it's real hard to see > the > > > oil > > > > level clearly. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Michael Canfield < > slozuk...@gmail.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > I would check grounds. Sounds like the trans is not shifting into > od > > > and > > > > > lockup when there is a high electrical load. Try to run lights, > ac, > > > etc > > > > > and > > > > > see if trans acts up again. Negative battery terminal was bad on > the > > > > last > > > > > Chrysler product that gave me very similar issues. Had to drive > slow > > > > with > > > > > the heater or headlights on. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > On Aug 7, 2011 2:38 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > > > > > > We were cruising all around town (OKC metro area) lst week on a > > 110F > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > shade day, with the AC on full blast. The car - 1 1997 Plymouth > > Grand > > > > > > Caravan, 3.3 engine, 115,000 miles - decided to only run in > second > > > > gear. > > > > > I > > > > > > stopped and checked the tranny fluid - it was a bit over full. > > > > Procedded > > > > > to > > > > > > take the secondary roads home (about 25 miles), driving no more > > than > > > 40 > > > > > > (3000 rpm or so). three blocks from home, the water temp started > to > > > > shoot > > > > > up > > > > > > rapidly so I turned off the AC. Got it in the drive before it hit > > the > > > > > temp. > > > > > > red line. It's been sitting until today, when I took it out for a > > > spin > > > > to > > > > > > see if it would shift or over heat. It did fine - acted normally. > I > > > did > > > > > > think I heard a low pitch whine when I first started it coming > from > > > the > > > > > > right front area - loader under the car, but couldn't identify > > > anything > > > > > > wrong nor the source. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any guesses whether the high temps and over-full fluid was the > > cause, > > > > and > > > > > > it's OK, or do I need a new tranny before I drive it 2600 miles > > > > starting > > > > > a > > > > > > week from now??? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > OK Don > > > > > > 2001 ML320 > > > > > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > > > > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > > > > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > htt
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Yea I think so Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> No he is in prison in maine > > Not for homicide, I assume. > Did they bust him for something serious like jaywalking this time? > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
North if Bangor in lagrange Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > A. You were downeast, I forget the town, tell me again > > B. I live in Mass... > > -Curt > > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 17:46:58 -0500 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > I was just there why didn't I see you? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >> Boo, buddy... >> >> -Curt >> From NORTHERN Maine. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Did I drive right by you on the way up an down? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Everywhere has a "big drug problem" right now. > > North central MA, right on the NH line. > > -Curt > > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:09:01 -0500 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > Bangor seems to have a huge drug problem right now. Where do you live? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Yes by the Massachusetts folk that they call Massholes. Kind of funny the silly MA vs ME rivalry. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 8:05 PM, "Greg Fiorentino" wrote: You mean they are NOT called Mainiacs? Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dc update Don't forget you northern folks have your redneck toothless hillbillies also, they are called mainers Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Wow Y'all. We gots our own ver, veria, I mean kinda, hicks up here in the North too. There be good folk all over the place, jist a whole lotta good po' folk in the south, it's differ'nt. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 1:55 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
I would say more uptight than rude. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Fred Moir wrote: Kaleb, et al. No less bigoted, just sneakier with it. The people "up here" are rude, and have the "ME first, last and always, I can't see you at all!" attitude. I am accused of having an accent, to which I reply, "I am speaking English, YOU have an accent!" With a smile too! Laughter is the best relaxer. (Right after a pint of something good.) "Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out of it alive!" Is it Friday yet? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 8/7/2011 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Less bigoted maybe but that does not equal less rude. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Curt Raymond wrote: Everywhere has a "big drug problem" right now. That's because Obama and Holder have revitalized the Sinaloa Cartel with stimulus funds. We now help them move drugs into USA, give them guns to move into Mexico, help them dodge the Mexican police, and if the Mexicans catch them we extradite them to USA and set them free. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/05/americas-third-wardid-us-cut-deal-with-sinaloa-cartel/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Perhaps I'm taking you too seriously, so I nominate you r comment on the relative bigotness of northerners for Kaleb's quotes page! Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yes I have prejudices the way all of humanity does. There is not one human being on this planet without them. I am however not a biggot. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Hah! Think about what you just said. Your statement says a lot about your own prejudices... Max (Yankee with his own set of prejudices, which is generally what every human does to try to order the world around him) -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yup. Northerners are generally less bigotted. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain about Northerners, as we've seen here. While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about every minority you can think of lives here. Jaime -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily in one community. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list a
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Oh I don't know, we stopped at a rest stop on the NJ turnpike last year and everyone seemed to be competing to see who could be most polite, which SWMBO and I thought a little odd. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Michael Canfield wrote: For the most part you are right Kaleb. There is no such thing as manners in the Northeast anymore. There is no more yes sir and yes ma'am, you are lucky to get a thank you at a convenience store and everyone is in such a big hurry they just run you right over. Mike On Aug 7, 2011 6:03 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > All I can say is traveling up north for over a week I found folks to be generally more rude that folks in the south, but that's just me > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > >> Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and >> still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, >> Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away >> from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. >> (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) >> >> Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern >> themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees >> think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think >> about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the >> world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. >> >> Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain >> about Northerners, as we've seen here. >> >> While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost >> of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, >> of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about >> every minority you can think of lives here. >> >> Jaime >> -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily >> in one community. >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >> >>> The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class >>> trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: >>> >>> I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius >>> as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to >>> Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well I give you this- the accent adds a hotness factor to some of the >>> southern belles. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Rich Thomas < >>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >>> >>> Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there >>> since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both >>> Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the >>> temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up >>> there >>> than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just >>> rode >>> my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! >>> >>> --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one >>> tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) >>> >>> PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just >>> to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. >>> >>> On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >>> Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated >>> rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points >>> is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! >>> I >>> don't think so bro. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< >>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >>> >>> Please do! >>> >>> --R >>> >>> On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >>> Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< >>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >>> >>> I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, >>> the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in >>> particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is >>> denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, >>> moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >>> --R wrote: >>> I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real >>> South) and back to the South. >>> Tell us more. >>> I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of >
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Max Dillon wrote: Oh I don't know, we stopped at a rest stop on the NJ turnpike last year and everyone seemed to be competing to see who could be most polite, Sounds like my stop at a Valvoline Instant Oil Change in Kentucky. The kids working there were the most accommodating, helpful and friendly workers I've ever encountered in the automotive industry. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31
In a message dated 8/7/11 5:56:11 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com writes: > Poked around the interwebs and MBCA site. Classic center is snobbish > and told one guy with a van/bus, he has to source stuff out of > Freightliner. It is a old version of the sprinter, so why not? > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
> Poked around the interwebs and MBCA site. Classic center is > snobbish > and told one guy with a van/bus, he has to source stuff out of > Freightliner. It is a old version of the sprinter, so why not?.. > Doesn't have anything to do with the Sprinter which came decades later. RLE > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Question
> aland...@knology.net wrote: > My recently acquired 83 300D had weak brakes when I bought it. > The pedal will pump up and then slowly sink under pressure. Classic symptoms of a master cylinder problem. The piston can't hold the pressure. I was successful opening one up and just cleaning and honing the bore. But in new or rebuilt is certainly a safer way to go. Note that there seem to be two lengths of pedal-to-piston rods. Make sure you keep them matched... Hold it. I'm confused. That's the _clutch_ that has two length rods. The brake master cylinder, I believe, is the same on any W123. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dc update
Yup. Taken out of context it sounds pretty funny. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Perhaps I'm taking you too seriously, so I nominate you r comment on the relative bigotness of northerners for Kaleb's quotes page! Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yes I have prejudices the way all of humanity does. There is not one human being on this planet without them. I am however not a biggot. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Hah! Think about what you just said. Your statement says a lot about your own prejudices... Max (Yankee with his own set of prejudices, which is generally what every human does to try to order the world around him) -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yup. Northerners are generally less bigotted. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Its true, these accents are very regional. I grew up in Northern NJ and still live here. I find the accents of central NJ and Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, etc put me off a bit, and those areas are only about 20 miles away from here, or less. They are a lower class trademark to some degree. (Manhattan, of course, has no accent since no body is really "from" there.) Whats interesting in the north vs south thing is how much northerns concern themselves with southerners... very little. I think most of us yankees think of southerners as interesting and hospitable people, if we think about them at all. I suspect we're more interested in the rest of the world, and rest of the country rather than what the south thinks of us. Southerners, other the other hand, seem to always make a point to complain about Northerners, as we've seen here. While the north may have its share of pushy impatient people, and high cost of living, we're a very tolerant group. I feel that the hate, or dislike, of large groups of any kind is much less common. After all, just about every minority you can think of lives here. Jaime -Surround by jews, blacks, koreans, and "white" people, all living happily in one community. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The NY, NJ and Boston accents that you are referring to are a lower class trademark whereas everyone in the south has essentially the same accent. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, OK Don wrote: I find the accents from Boston, NJ, the Bronx, etc. to be just as obnoxius as the Southern drawl. On the other hand, it was a delight to listen to Hendrick, Fay, and kids -- On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Oh come on bubba, it's only about 95F today though the humidity is up there since we had a bit of rain yesterday evening. It was about 100F in both Philly and DC earlier in the week, so we are sort of a wash in the temperature department this summer. I think it was actually hotter up there than it was here for those few days until it cooled down a bit. I just rode my bike down the road to get a paper, why, it is positively balmy out! --R (Going off to get another tattoo, increasing my tattoo/tooth ratio one tattoo and one tooth at a time, y'all!) PS -- about that accent thing -- that is a way to throw Yankees off, just to make them think the speaker is stupid. It usually works pretty well. On 8/7/11 2:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if that's your attitude then I can elaborate. Toothless, uneducated rednecks with an accent that causes their perceived IQ to drop by 20 points is not my style. Then you have the 110 degree weather with 1000% humidity! I don't think so bro. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Please do! --R On 8/7/11 1:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. The north is civilized. I'll stay here thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas< richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I have noticed that the further north (at least to the northeast) you go, the more nannyish the states become, and the more expensive (gas in particular), the more people acting in more unpleasant ways, traffic is denser and slower and heavier. I lived in the Boston area for 20+ years, moved to Texas then to SC, I could never go back up north. --R On 8/6/11 11:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: I am s glad to be out of the North (well, north of the real South) and back to the South. Tell us more. I am gaining more of a sense of this but have no real understanding of what is meant. For years I have thought I am really a suthren. mao _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __
Re: [MBZ] 306d
> redghost wrote: > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2533097759.html > > I am going to look at this as my replacement for Gump. Need > something that I can haul stuff around and having a bus might > come in handy. I had an alltrac previa for a bit and when it > died we got rid of it. I have far too many parts in storage > and now no way to transport them for putting on CL. I'll bet it'll be slow. Probably make a 220 with at automatic transmission seem fast. But if you are not in a hurry... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Guam is gonna tip over and capsize
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg Apparently Hitler is not happy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAEqXubT21I&feature=related Hendrik who wonders if Australia will tip over if we get too many more people over here ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Guam is gonna tip over and capsize, potty mouth
Ooops sorry the Fuerher uses some naughty words. Hendrik who should clean the wheels instead of youtubing Hendrik & Fay wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg Apparently Hitler is not happy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAEqXubT21I&feature=related Hendrik who wonders if Australia will tip over if we get too many more people over here ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 306d
Tom Hansen thinks they are Freightliners, so I will bow to the knowledge, or lack thereof from classic center. clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:23 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Poked around the interwebs and MBCA site. Classic center is snobbish and told one guy with a van/bus, he has to source stuff out of Freightliner. It is a old version of the sprinter, so why not?.. Doesn't have anything to do with the Sprinter which came decades later. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
