Re: [MBZ] Plastic 96 E300D?
My 123.190 had a plastic radiator tank, and plastic headlight surrounds (aka doors) that disintegrate with time, plus a 123 will rust away long before a 124. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, September 12, 2011 7:46:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plastic 96 E300D? On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Well we could argue for a while about that, the thing is how long does the plastic piece last in normal service? Sure we could say that we would expect it to last a 100 years but the reality is that cars are engineered to last 10. Cue the chorus of 123s were built to last forever! Which is exactly my point. I would be very surprised if planned obsolescence was even on the radar at Daimler-Benz before 1990. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM616, cranky, no far
Let me know if you need more info from a wiring diagram, it does sound like something is hooked to the wrong position on the switch (or your switch is flaky). Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, September 12, 2011 10:49:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] OM616, cranky, no far Well, I got the throttle hooked up on the project 240D. GP relay hooked up, one terminal with 2 RT/SW wires hanging out with the green wire. This car still has no steering lock, so I am running the switch dangling under the dash with a key. starter cranks. After pumping up fuel from/to a 2 litre bottle next to the transfer pump with the hand primer, I hear the check valve on the back of the pump rattling. That is a good sign. However the return fuel has a lot of bubbles in it. When I stop pumping, the fuel drains out and air comes in. I think I have a return line that is cracked badly, but I don't have return hose yet. So I think I am stuck until I can get some return hose. I did try cranking after I got the fuel up, but no fuel coming out of a cracked injector line. I already put new hose from the fuel container to the prefilter, and from the prefilter to the transfer pump. The line from the transfer pump to the filter looks good, and the hard clear line to the IP looks ok. The hard clear line from the IP check valve to the filter return fitting has been replaced. The cigar line looks ok. The transfer pump appears to be ok, and the filter big bolt appears to be sealed well. Seems to me that the return lines are suspect, and that the primer pump could be leaking, although generally if they leak, they leak when you pump fuel, and are ok when the top is screwed down. This one does not appear to be leaking. But air is getting in somewhere. So the Dissel cranky, but no far in the holes. Funny thing... the starter cranks first, then if I turn the switch further, the lights, buzzers and GPs come on. I am thinking maybe the pin with the double RT/SW may need to go into the plug, rather than the pin with only one RT/SW. If the RT/SW indicates to the relay the switch position, the single may only come on in the start position and the double may come on in the glow position. 1980 240D Mit 1981 OM616 and 81 GP relay. Close, but still no far. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM616, cranky, no far
primer pump could be leaking, although generally if they leak, they leak when you pump fuel, and are ok when the top is screwed down. The air (outside) and fuel (inside) seals are completely separate, but they do tend to age together. You can make a new air seal and install it, if you have rubber gasket sheeting and a hole punch set. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plastic 96 E300D?
Plastic doesn't always mean cheaper. It means lighter weight. Note the W124 was much more efficient than the W123. This is thanks to thousands of little changes and improvements to reduce weight, friction, etc etc etc. Jaime On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: Well we could argue for a while about that, the thing is how long does the plastic piece last in normal service? Sure we could say that we would expect it to last a 100 years but the reality is that cars are engineered to last 10. I would think that the person who decided on plastic was the same person that decided plastic thermostat housings are the go and that radiators should be made out of plastic, so the neck snaps off after 22 years. Well MB no longer sells plastic thermostat housings and Behr have put a metal ring into the neck of their radiators. Hendrik who has had a couple of radiators with snapped necks Alex Chamberlain wrote: Those plastic ball-and-socket joints and the other plastic bits in the accelerator, kickdown, and cruise linkages on the 603 engines infuriate me. Looking at them makes me understand why so many people think of the 123 as the last real Mercedes. The weird thing to me is that when the 124 was being designed, Mercedes was a long way from feeling pressure from the Japanese, and from what I've read they were still very much in the mode of we'll engineer the cars as well as we possibly can, and then set prices as high as they need to be to make a profit. So why did someone choose to save a dollar per car by spec'ing plastic instead of metal in such a crucial area? Alex __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM616, cranky, no far
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: the primer pump could be leaking, although generally if they leak, they leak when you pump fuel, and are ok when the top is screwed down. I just replaced the one on my 300SD, it leaked when pumping AND when screwed down. It sprayed like a fountain when the engine was running. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sorta OT but kinda interesting
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/09/gordon-murray-qa/ I like this guy's thinking. Got me thinking that with the rise of pretty cheap CNC machines and robots, and cheap plastic panel manufacturing, setting up a factory to build cars like this would be cheap and easy once some engineering is done. Could be some fun kit opportunities too, source some standard engine/drivetrain/suspension components. Of course the gummint would get involved and screw it all up, but still... I bet you could send some plans and specs to China and have a whole fleet delivered in like 8 weeks. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Considering parting out my 1985 300d
Local CL ad : http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/pts/2596207570.html Lots of good and NLA parts in new/nearly new condition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
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Re: [MBZ] Considering parting out my 1985 300d
CL crack head --R On 9/13/11 10:01 AM, Rolf wrote: Local CL ad : http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/pts/2596207570.html Lots of good and NLA parts in new/nearly new condition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Considering parting out my 1985 300d
He means that in a nice way... On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: CL crack head --R On 9/13/11 10:01 AM, Rolf wrote: Local CL ad : http://atlanta.craigslist.org/**atl/pts/2596207570.htmlhttp://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/pts/2596207570.html Lots of good and NLA parts in new/nearly new condition. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Considering parting out my 1985 300d
I'd take a flier on the wood if you included the ACC push button module. :)) On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Local CL ad : http://atlanta.craigslist.org/**atl/pts/2596207570.htmlhttp://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/pts/2596207570.html Lots of good and NLA parts in new/nearly new condition. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT asbestos was Re: My RustyQ Day activities
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I sent the samples to Charles Perea. The report came back from: EMC LABS, INC. 9830 S. 51st Street, Suite B109 Phoenix, AZ 85044 Phone: 800-362-3373 or 480-940-5294 Fax: (480) 893-1726 Thanks! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/2587906610.html 2000 is second generation for the W210, supposedly the spring perch problems were fixed then along with a lot of other little stuff. Sounds like a great deal to me. I've considered buying one, most of the V-8 ones I see around here are in the $7-9K range. Remember to factor in the price of a real scan tool of some kind, like the Chinese pirated dealer version that Kleb has. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/2587906610.html Sounds like a great deal to me. I've considered buying one, most of the V-8 ones I see around here are in the $7-9K range. Whoops, just noticed that it's a six. The V-8 cars are a better deal, I think. Practically the same MPG and a lot more power. Still a good price. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
Not a non-smoker? Afraid to go ahead and admit that she smokes, and beware the stench in the car? Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car? On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/2587906610.html 2000 is second generation for the W210, supposedly the spring perch problems were fixed then along with a lot of other little stuff. Sounds like a great deal to me. I've considered buying one, most of the V-8 ones I see around here are in the $7-9K range. Remember to factor in the price of a real scan tool of some kind, like the Chinese pirated dealer version that Kleb has. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Not a non-smoker? Afraid to go ahead and admit that she smokes, and beware the stench in the car? I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:10 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Not a non-smoker? Afraid to go ahead and admit that she smokes, and beware the stench in the car? Ozone generator will fix that right up. I bought one from www.ozonegeneratormachines.com that got the mouse-crap smell right out of my 300D. (Which, if anyone's interested, is still on stands in my driveway waiting for me to take the exhaust apart and find the blockage. I have been underneath it a couple of times to paint all the fasteners with the ATF/acetone potion. Was heartened to see that there is plenty of open space around the muffler, resonator and cat to replace any of them with a generic muffler, although the rearmost would take some trickery with curved tubing since the stock unit has the pipes coming in and going out at a 60-degree angle. That, however, is what JC Whitney sells mandrel-bent exhaust tubing in various sizes and shapes for! Anyone know off the top of their head if the exhaust on the 124 uses standard SAE-sized pipe or if it is a wacko metric size that is going to need welding to adapt generic parts to?) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/2587906610.html 2000 is second generation for the W210, supposedly the spring perch problems were fixed then along with a lot of other little stuff. Sounds like a great deal to me. I've considered buying one, most of the V-8 ones I see around here are in the $7-9K range. Remember to factor in the price of a real scan tool of some kind, like the Chinese pirated dealer version that Kleb has. And 4wd 210s didn't have spring perches, they had springs over struts AFAIK. It seems that when 4Matic came back in 1998, they just used 3 open diffs, unless what I read was wrong and they've got ASD or something. I suppose open diffs and traction control via independent braking would make the drivetrain reliable, if not the brakes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
My Focus was a smoker's car even though the dealer tried to mask it. An overnight with an ozone generator fixed the residual odor. Don't overdo it with an ozone generator, however. High levels of ozone can cause plastics to break down. Not a good thing when much of a car's interior is plastic... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Not a non-smoker? Afraid to go ahead and admit that she smokes, and beware the stench in the car? I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: And 4wd 210s didn't have spring perches, they had springs over struts AFAIK. Oho! I didn't know that. Excellent info. It seems that when 4Matic came back in 1998, they just used 3 open diffs, unless what I read was wrong and they've got ASD or something. Right, no clutch packs, viscous coupling, or any such trickery to worry about. Just a simple transfer case and diffs-a-plenty. Keep them all topped up with the right fluids and the system is as reliable as a 2WD car, from everything I've read. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car?
A few days before I bought my '87 300D in Winston-Salem, NC, I drove to York, SC, to check out a '92/'93 or so 300D (or whatever they're properly called). Seller's husband was expounded its virtues as I opened driver's door; the nicotine stench was so strong, I almost passed out; all of interior was also stained nicotine brown. As I knelt down to look at right front tire, seller tried to tell me, All new tires. In reality, they were all well-worn and no 2 alike. I mentioned oil leaking from IP; seller tried to tell me it had been replaced and showed me repair receipt to prove it. What the receipt really said was, Recommend replacing IP - estimate $1100. 'Glad I didn't buy the car. Seller's lies on the phone to get me to drive that far to see it, and his continuous lies while I looked at it made me damned mad. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is a 2000 W210 4matic a good car? My Focus was a smoker's car even though the dealer tried to mask it. An overnight with an ozone generator fixed the residual odor. Don't overdo it with an ozone generator, however. High levels of ozone can cause plastics to break down. Not a good thing when much of a car's interior is plastic... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Not a non-smoker? Afraid to go ahead and admit that she smokes, and beware the stench in the car? I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tempting problem 300SDs
You mount it to the part of the toothbrush that goes in and out, using
epoxy/screw/etc. And then you hook a 9 volt battery to it instead of the 2AA
batteries.
Walt
On Sep 11, 2011 2:01 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Sander gives more robust movements, too, but I'm curious to see if an
electric tooth brush might vibrate the key enough to operate a stuck
cylinder - maybe, some.
I attached the key firmly to the vibrating, triangular plate of a Bosch
detail sander ('cause that's what I have - any with vibrating plate should
do it) with copper aircraft safety wire; 2 or 3 small zip ties may work
very
well for attaching the key, also. Any means of attaching the key firmly to
the plate should be good - even a bolt-and-nut - any way that you can
transfer vibrating action of the plate to the key and then into the
cylinder. I laid the base of the key flat on the plate at one of the
apexes
of the triangle with the key extending out from the apex and parallel to
the
plate. Holes in the plate and the key greatly facilitated securing them to
each other. 'Probably don't have to secure the key as well as I did. 'Had
to attach the key twice; first time, I had it oriented so that I could not
get the key into the lock, 'cause the steering wheel was blocking access
(room) for the sander.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tempting problem 300SDs
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:31 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Yes.
Wilton, how exactly did the sander trick work? Did you attach the key
parallel to the sander base (i.e., flat against it in the same
orientation as the sandpaper would go), or perpendicular to it? How
did you affix the key securely---duct tape, zip ties, etc.?
I can see zip-tying the key to an electric toothbrush, but the sander
sounds more effective---faster oscillations, giving the key more
chances to hit the sweet spot with the pins.
Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Tempting problem 300SDs
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: You mount it to the part of the toothbrush that goes in and out, Such that the axis of movement is parallel to the long dimension of the key, or perpendicular to it? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tempting problem 300SDs
In-line with the axis of motion. Get one with a replaceable brush head, and somehow get the key hooked to the rod that gets oscillated. You don't hook it to the rotary part. Walt On Sep 13, 2011 2:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: You mount it to the part of the toothbrush that goes in and out, Such that the axis of movement is parallel to the long dimension of the key, or perpendicular to it? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Considering parting out my 1985 300d
I think the prices are pretty fair the NLA stuff I am asking MSRP or below on. Also euro bumpers front and rear with euro tow hitch $300 Warne Drei Ecke $80 shipped 300TD rear sway bar $200 (new never used, ordered wrong part etc etc) -Rolf On 09/13/2011 12:21 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: He means that in a nice way... On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: CL crack head --R On 9/13/11 10:01 AM, Rolf wrote: Local CL ad : http://atlanta.craigslist.org/**atl/pts/2596207570.htmlhttp://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/pts/2596207570.html Lots of good and NLA parts in new/nearly new condition. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] smoke stink
I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone... Not if there is ANY fabric inside. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities
On 12/09/2011 9:52 AM, Craig wrote: We are in the process of remodeling our kitchen, which was originally built in 1959 and apparently remodeled in 1987. As the end of a series of thoughts about asbestos, I sent a sample of linoleum off to be tested. It came back negative, but the samples of sheetrock/joint compound I sent off later turned out positive. So, last Friday and Saturday I was helped by Charles Perea of the Johnny O. Perea Foundation to take down the sheetrock, using all proper protections, including a high volume, HEPA filtered blower which sucks the air in the kitchen, filters it, and blows it out an outside window. Two very long, tiring days and we are not finished yet. Sunday morning, we went out to the '94 E420 to go to church and found it ran VERY roughly. So we got into the '95 E320 and drove off. We found the heat wasn't coming on as it should. Yesterday afternoon, I tried the E420 again, and found that it smoothed out, but had a lot of lifter noise (I did change from Castrol 10W-40 to Mobil 1, but grabbed the wrong bottle and it ended up with 2.5 quarts 15W-40 and 5 quarts 0W-40). The lifter noise quieted down after awhile. I'm thinking it was a collapsed lifter and wondering how much of a problem that will be. I noticed on the E320 that there was more airflow out the footwell vents as it was changing from heating to cooling than when it was in the heating mode. I hope that's not too hard to fix. Craig I am surprised that they did not recommend that you just leave the drywall alone or perhaps cover it with another layer of new stuff. I read some of the information on their site after your post and they seem most intent upon not disturbing any material that may include asbestos if at all possible. Not what most of us want to hear. We have vermiculite insulation in the attic out at the lake and I would love to have it gone. They (Perea) say it is best not to disburb it and that it is difficult to test and confirm that it contains or does not contain asbestos. I have thought seriously about trying to vaccuum it out of the attic but do not wish to have the dust filter down into the rooms below. The house is old enough that there is no poly vapour barrier in the ceiling so there would be cracks that might permit some to filter down. My other choice may be to put up a poly vapour barrier and then cover the ceilings with new material from below so that I have less concern about the filtering down of small particles when it is windy out etc. The kitchen is drywall so it is fairly tight with the exception of the two lights but the living room and one of the bedrooms have wooden ceilings that will not be quite as tight. I do wonder how dangerous it might be to remove it if I was careful and wore a good respirator etc. Again, my major concern is that disturbing it in the attic might cause the particles to filter down into the rooms below and I am uncertain as to how one might best prevent or clean that up after. They talk about putting poly sheeting down but it would be difficult to cover everything and then remove it without losing some of it. A professional crew with experience might know how to acccomlish that but I am afraid I might just make matters worse than they currently are. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] smoke stink
On 13/09/2011 3:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone... Not if there is ANY fabric inside. RLE What he meant to say, is that after a month or so one would get used to the smell and not really care. Ugh! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] smoke stink
Ground fresh coffee beans can help absorb SOME of the odors. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:43:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] smoke stink On 13/09/2011 3:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone... Not if there is ANY fabric inside. RLE What he meant to say, is that after a month or so one would get used to the smell and not really care. Ugh! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] smoke stink
If you can wait and not drive for a few weeks, I found that a tupperware (2cup) with a cup of vinegar will magically abate the stench. Follow with lots of fresh air to get rid of the acid smell clay On Sep 13, 2011, at 2:44 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Ground fresh coffee beans can help absorb SOME of the odors. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:43:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] smoke stink On 13/09/2011 3:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone... Not if there is ANY fabric inside. RLE What he meant to say, is that after a month or so one would get used to the smell and not really care. Ugh! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] smoke stink
Ozium... available in large cans. [may not be correct spelling, but sounds like it] Wonderful stuff for killing odors of all kinds. Used it for years in airplanes to cancel results of airsick passengers. [trust me, day old puke smell after being in a closed up airplane is a force to contend with. Also works for smoke smell.] Not particularly cheap, but worth the price, IMHO. Grant... On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:44 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Ground fresh coffee beans can help absorb SOME of the odors. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:43:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] smoke stink On 13/09/2011 3:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone... Not if there is ANY fabric inside. RLE What he meant to say, is that after a month or so one would get used to the smell and not really care. Ugh! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities
Did you test a sample for asbestos? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:42:56 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities On 12/09/2011 9:52 AM, Craig wrote: We are in the process of remodeling our kitchen, which was originally built in 1959 and apparently remodeled in 1987. As the end of a series of thoughts about asbestos, I sent a sample of linoleum off to be tested. It came back negative, but the samples of sheetrock/joint compound I sent off later turned out positive. So, last Friday and Saturday I was helped by Charles Perea of the Johnny O. Perea Foundation to take down the sheetrock, using all proper protections, including a high volume, HEPA filtered blower which sucks the air in the kitchen, filters it, and blows it out an outside window. Two very long, tiring days and we are not finished yet. Sunday morning, we went out to the '94 E420 to go to church and found it ran VERY roughly. So we got into the '95 E320 and drove off. We found the heat wasn't coming on as it should. Yesterday afternoon, I tried the E420 again, and found that it smoothed out, but had a lot of lifter noise (I did change from Castrol 10W-40 to Mobil 1, but grabbed the wrong bottle and it ended up with 2.5 quarts 15W-40 and 5 quarts 0W-40). The lifter noise quieted down after awhile. I'm thinking it was a collapsed lifter and wondering how much of a problem that will be. I noticed on the E320 that there was more airflow out the footwell vents as it was changing from heating to cooling than when it was in the heating mode. I hope that's not too hard to fix. Craig I am surprised that they did not recommend that you just leave the drywall alone or perhaps cover it with another layer of new stuff. I read some of the information on their site after your post and they seem most intent upon not disturbing any material that may include asbestos if at all possible. Not what most of us want to hear. We have vermiculite insulation in the attic out at the lake and I would love to have it gone. They (Perea) say it is best not to disburb it and that it is difficult to test and confirm that it contains or does not contain asbestos. I have thought seriously about trying to vaccuum it out of the attic but do not wish to have the dust filter down into the rooms below. The house is old enough that there is no poly vapour barrier in the ceiling so there would be cracks that might permit some to filter down. My other choice may be to put up a poly vapour barrier and then cover the ceilings with new material from below so that I have less concern about the filtering down of small particles when it is windy out etc. The kitchen is drywall so it is fairly tight with the exception of the two lights but the living room and one of the bedrooms have wooden ceilings that will not be quite as tight. I do wonder how dangerous it might be to remove it if I was careful and wore a good respirator etc. Again, my major concern is that disturbing it in the attic might cause the particles to filter down into the rooms below and I am uncertain as to how one might best prevent or clean that up after. They talk about putting poly sheeting down but it would be difficult to cover everything and then remove it without losing some of it. A professional crew with experience might know how to acccomlish that but I am afraid I might just make matters worse than they currently are. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I should follow my own advise: Far, WAS OM616, cranky, no far
Today, I got some SAE 1/8 fuel line as a hasty substitute for the real thing. This evening, I changed out the return lines, pumped it (fuel) up with the hand pump and cranked the old car. As much as I rail about keeping air out of the fuel lines, and all the sneaky ways it could get in, I did not believe the return lines were so crucial. One of them must have been broken in two under the fabric. Once I got the return lines replaced, the fuel stayed in the clear section of line I grafted onto the cigar hose so it would reach to the bottom of the fuel. I cut a little of the top off a 2 liter bottle, and it seemed to be securely wedged behind the transfer pump, held up by the steering gear, hoses and whatnot. That seemed to make a reasonable trial fuel tank to see if it will run. So I got in and gave it a little crank. It fired up on 3 pretty fast. So I got out, confirmed the fuel was coming out of the cracked #1, and tightened it down. Then I waited a few min. to let the starter cool. When I cranked it again, it fired almost immediately, but soon died. (FAR IN ALL 4 HOLES!) I cranked it several more times, and the bendix would spin out as soon as it fired, so it didn't stay running. No time would it keep running on its own. But it sounded good when it did fire, so I was puzzled as to why it did not keep running. Mrs. O'leary's cow. When I got out, I found the old cow had kicked, and turned the fuel container on its side. The container was nearly empty and the return hose was out of the container. It pumped fuel all over the floor.I thought the resting place for the fuel was pretty steady. but it was not. Fortunately, this time the cow did not kick over a lamp to light the fuel on fire. Nor did I have hay and straw in the vicinity. So, I am convinced the engine will run. More work is needed to get it to run. Next up is to drain the tank and replace the hoses. When the hoses are all hooked up, then, with some fuel in the tank, I will see if I can keep the old girl running on fresh fuel. After that, i will put in the radiator, and flush the cooling system, add exhaust system (i hope) and then it should be ready to test clutch and brakes, then when those pass, take it around the block. 1980 240D mit 1981 OM616 engine and GP relay. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wilton Wheels for Rednecks
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton Wheels for Rednecks
Interesting alternative to a drop hitch. I like it! Hahahaha Mike On Sep 13, 2011 8:58 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m129/double_five/hillbillyhotel.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes Classic Center
Yesterday I got into LAX at 11am and since I couldn't check into my hotel until after 3 I decided to take a ride down to the Mercedes Classic Center in Irvine. Its about a 45 minute drive down to Irvine, the Classic Center isn't all that hard to find unless you're dazed from a day of travel. Inside the facility is really nice, they've got 3 (!) rear engine pre-war cars which is apparently amazingly rare. They've also got what they bill as the nicest 180D Ponton in the world, I got some pics of the engine bay, you could eat in there no problem. That car is glorious. Also pretty cool is the Patent Motorwagen which is just as small in person as I expected it to be from the videos on Youtube. Anyway heres the pics: http://s843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Mercedes_Classic_Center/ I stayed there for about an hour, chatted with John about the clutch rod for my 240D(!) he suggested I modify the clutch rod I have and maybe try another MC which he offered me a good price on. I'll have to mess with it and see. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I should follow my own advise: Far, WAS OM616, cranky, no far
Congratulations - sounds like you're on the path to success now --- On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Today, I got some SAE 1/8 fuel line as a hasty substitute for the real thing. This evening, I changed out the return lines, pumped it (fuel) up with the hand pump and cranked the old car. As much as I rail about keeping air out of the fuel lines, and all the sneaky ways it could get in, I did not believe the return lines were so crucial. One of them must have been broken in two under the fabric. Once I got the return lines replaced, the fuel stayed in the clear section of line I grafted onto the cigar hose so it would reach to the bottom of the fuel. I cut a little of the top off a 2 liter bottle, and it seemed to be securely wedged behind the transfer pump, held up by the steering gear, hoses and whatnot. That seemed to make a reasonable trial fuel tank to see if it will run. So I got in and gave it a little crank. It fired up on 3 pretty fast. So I got out, confirmed the fuel was coming out of the cracked #1, and tightened it down. Then I waited a few min. to let the starter cool. When I cranked it again, it fired almost immediately, but soon died. (FAR IN ALL 4 HOLES!) I cranked it several more times, and the bendix would spin out as soon as it fired, so it didn't stay running. No time would it keep running on its own. But it sounded good when it did fire, so I was puzzled as to why it did not keep running. Mrs. O'leary's cow. When I got out, I found the old cow had kicked, and turned the fuel container on its side. The container was nearly empty and the return hose was out of the container. It pumped fuel all over the floor.I thought the resting place for the fuel was pretty steady. but it was not. Fortunately, this time the cow did not kick over a lamp to light the fuel on fire. Nor did I have hay and straw in the vicinity. So, I am convinced the engine will run. More work is needed to get it to run. Next up is to drain the tank and replace the hoses. When the hoses are all hooked up, then, with some fuel in the tank, I will see if I can keep the old girl running on fresh fuel. After that, i will put in the radiator, and flush the cooling system, add exhaust system (i hope) and then it should be ready to test clutch and brakes, then when those pass, take it around the block. 1980 240D mit 1981 OM616 engine and GP relay. __**_ -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Classic Center
Cool! Thanks for sharing the photos. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Yesterday I got into LAX at 11am and since I couldn't check into my hotel until after 3 I decided to take a ride down to the Mercedes Classic Center in Irvine. Its about a 45 minute drive down to Irvine, the Classic Center isn't all that hard to find unless you're dazed from a day of travel. Inside the facility is really nice, they've got 3 (!) rear engine pre-war cars which is apparently amazingly rare. They've also got what they bill as the nicest 180D Ponton in the world, I got some pics of the engine bay, you could eat in there no problem. That car is glorious. Also pretty cool is the Patent Motorwagen which is just as small in person as I expected it to be from the videos on Youtube. Anyway heres the pics: http://s843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Mercedes_Classic_Center/ I stayed there for about an hour, chatted with John about the clutch rod for my 240D(!) he suggested I modify the clutch rod I have and maybe try another MC which he offered me a good price on. I'll have to mess with it and see. -Curt -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Classic Center
I cannot believe I haven't been there yet. Bob R On Sep 13, 2011 7:03 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Yesterday I got into LAX at 11am and since I couldn't check into my hotel until after 3 I decided to take a ride down to the Mercedes Classic Center in Irvine. Its about a 45 minute drive down to Irvine, the Classic Center isn't all that hard to find unless you're dazed from a day of travel. Inside the facility is really nice, they've got 3 (!) rear engine pre-war cars which is apparently amazingly rare. They've also got what they bill as the nicest 180D Ponton in the world, I got some pics of the engine bay, you could eat in there no problem. That car is glorious. Also pretty cool is the Patent Motorwagen which is just as small in person as I expected it to be from the videos on Youtube. Anyway heres the pics: http://s843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Mercedes_Classic_Center/ I stayed there for about an hour, chatted with John about the clutch rod for my 240D(!) he suggested I modify the clutch rod I have and maybe try another MC which he offered me a good price on. I'll have to mess with it and see. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:42:56 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I am surprised that they did not recommend that you just leave the drywall alone or perhaps cover it with another layer of new stuff. I read some of the information on their site after your post and they seem most intent upon not disturbing any material that may include asbestos if at all possible. Not what most of us want to hear. Indeed, that is the best way to go. In our case, we wanted to move a wall and remove soffits. In addition, there was a lot of sheetrock on the outside wall that had been wetted over the years from an electric dryer that did not have an outside vent, a washer drain that overflowed, and a dishwasher that had had unknown problems before we bought the house. That whole area of sheetrock was covered with a LOT of black mold. Since the Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) requirements of removing asbestos are higher than those of removing black mold, we had that covered. It will be nice when it's all done, but right now it's a LOT of work. We have vermiculite insulation in the attic out at the lake and I would love to have it gone. I know the feeling. I do wonder how dangerous it might be to remove it if I was careful and wore a good respirator etc. Again, my major concern is that disturbing it in the attic might cause the particles to filter down into the rooms below and I am uncertain as to how one might best prevent or clean that up after. They talk about putting poly sheeting down but it would be difficult to cover everything and then remove it without losing some of it. A professional crew with experience might know how to acccomplish that but I am afraid I might just make matters worse than they currently are. You can do it safely without present injury to your health without much difficulty. Doing it so there is no contamination of other parts of the house can be much more difficult, particularly if you have not done such work before. I'm thankful I have Charles Perea's help. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] smoke stink
My car was a smoker car, fortunately they must have left the windows down, not much smell. The quarter holder on the other hand, was throughly ruined by some idjit putting ashes in it... Walt On Sep 13, 2011 6:09 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Ozium... available in large cans. [may not be correct spelling, but sounds like it] Wonderful stuff for killing odors of all kinds. Used it for years in airplanes to cancel results of airsick passengers. [trust me, day old puke smell after being in a closed up airplane is a force to contend with. Also works for smoke smell.] Not particularly cheap, but worth the price, IMHO. Grant... On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:44 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Ground fresh coffee beans can help absorb SOME of the odors. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:43:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] smoke stink On 13/09/2011 3:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone... Not if there is ANY fabric inside. RLE What he meant to say, is that after a month or so one would get used to the smell and not really care. Ugh! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:35:40 + astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Did you test a sample for asbestos? So, to whom was this top-posted response addressed, Randy or me? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
