[MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at the local welding shop a few weeks ago, sitting outside the shop was this big stainless steel pot, maybe 25-30gal or so, with a new conical top the guy had welded up, with a pipe nub sticking out of the top. Plenty of money to be made (and plenty of risk too) if you become a 'shiner. We'll know what's up when you buy that E55, as your current crop of vehicles probably doesn't include one fast enough to outrun.the revenuers... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
I never tried the light box thing although I probably should have. The only time I ever used pharmaceuticals to speak of. They helped some, but not a lot. What's weird is that I spent more than half my life in that environment, and never had a problem. Must have been the 12 years I spent in Florida that de-programmed me... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: That being said, I could deal with the winter, but not the lack of sunlight. That part really messed me up. Yeah. Seasonally Affected Depression. Big fun. If my oldest kid gets into trouble, it's around Christmas. I get precious little done after November until March or so. I probably ought to build a big light box and sit in front of it for an hour or two a day. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Main vacuum line grommet
How do I install this? Will it fit over the fitting at the vacuum pump? This is the rubber grommet which holds the main vacuum line at the bracket on the primary fuel filter, front top of the engine. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
Maybe that's why I prefer the GE where did my eyes go? CFL bulbs. The ones that glow green for a bit after you turn them off. Walt, who dislikes incandescent bulbs in drop light enclosures as well On Jan 20, 2012 10:09 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Usually affects me most in January and into Feb, but this year I've been outside much more than usual since it's been in the 50's most of the month. I used to stick my head in the growth chambers at school, where the light was almost full sun level. Made me feel much better for some reason. You can provide nearly full spectrum light by mixing incandescent bulbs with cool white fluorescents, or use the high kelvin temperature CCFL spiral things. Not the warm white, the bright bluish ones. Peter On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: That being said, I could deal with the winter, but not the lack of sunlight. That part really messed me up. Yeah. Seasonally Affected Depression. Big fun. If my oldest kid gets into trouble, it's around Christmas. I get precious little done after November until March or so. I probably ought to build a big light box and sit in front of it for an hour or two a day. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Main vacuum line grommet
Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: How do I install this? Will it fit over the fitting at the vacuum pump? This is the rubber grommet which holds the main vacuum line at the bracket on the primary fuel filter, front top of the engine. -- Forgot to say Thanks! Rusty, the valve guides, grommet and sun roof tool all arrived this a.m. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
Really? A bottle of 192 proof spirytus is less than $17, and you don't need to worry about methanol, flavonoids, etc from a still. Only time we made 'shine, it cost more in time than the end product was worth, since it still tasted like the skunk wine it was made from, just with more bite. Walt On Jan 21, 2012 5:26 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at the local welding shop a few weeks ago, sitting outside the shop was this big stainless steel pot, maybe 25-30gal or so, with a new conical top the guy had welded up, with a pipe nub sticking out of the top. Plenty of money to be made (and plenty of risk too) if you become a 'shiner. We'll know what's up when you buy that E55, as your current crop of vehicles probably doesn't include one fast enough to outrun.the revenuers... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
The phosphors in fluorescent lamps vary all over the map, and cheap wins out over wide spectrum every time. The lamps work by the coating on the inside of the tubes absorbing the long wave UV produced by the mercury vapor lamp and emitting light in the visible range, along with allowing the typical blue and green emission lines of mercury vapor lamps to pass through. The coating makes all the difference, and for a while almost all CCFL replacement bulbs were fairly high kelvin (color temperature) rated, at least photoflood B range. Lately the warm white crowd that likes dim incandescent lamps that sorta glow orange/white -- like a weak 40W incandescent -- have taken over and it's hard to find a bright white bulb that mimics daylight. i've never liked low temperature bulbs, so I have to dig and dig to get what I want. The good thing is that the cheapo Chinese LED lamps are wide spectrum, strong on the blue end, and I'll have to get some more of them. Vastly better than CCFL, and from that auction site around $8 or so. Not bad for a permanent lamp. Only question I have is why none of the American manufacturers (read supply companies now that just contract for overseas goods) design or make any of this stuff? I'm fairly certain that at $100 a barrel for oil, it costs more to ship them from China that to make them here. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Maybe that's why I prefer the GE where did my eyes go? CFL bulbs. The ones that glow green for a bit after you turn them off. Walt, who dislikes incandescent bulbs in drop light enclosures as well On Jan 20, 2012 10:09 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Usually affects me most in January and into Feb, but this year I've been outside much more than usual since it's been in the 50's most of the month. I used to stick my head in the growth chambers at school, where the light was almost full sun level. Made me feel much better for some reason. You can provide nearly full spectrum light by mixing incandescent bulbs with cool white fluorescents, or use the high kelvin temperature CCFL spiral things. Not the warm white, the bright bluish ones. Peter On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: That being said, I could deal with the winter, but not the lack of sunlight. That part really messed me up. Yeah. Seasonally Affected Depression. Big fun. If my oldest kid gets into trouble, it's around Christmas. I get precious little done after November until March or so. I probably ought to build a big light box and sit in front of it for an hour or two a day. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http:// www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http:// www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
My inlaws are from the Appalachian foothills, and occasionally will have some of those Mason jars with the clear liquid in them. I have had nasty stuff and some so smooth you could hardly taste it. Just small amounts, thank you, I don't want to ingest the lead from the solder joints on the radiator they were using as a condenser. Dan On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Really? A bottle of 192 proof spirytus is less than $17, and you don't need to worry about methanol, flavonoids, etc from a still. Only time we made 'shine, it cost more in time than the end product was worth, since it still tasted like the skunk wine it was made from, just with more bite. Walt On Jan 21, 2012 5:26 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at the local welding shop a few weeks ago, sitting outside the shop was this big stainless steel pot, maybe 25-30gal or so, with a new conical top the guy had welded up, with a pipe nub sticking out of the top. Plenty of money to be made (and plenty of risk too) if you become a 'shiner. We'll know what's up when you buy that E55, as your current crop of vehicles probably doesn't include one fast enough to outrun.the revenuers... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Main vacuum line grommet
I don't remember if it slipped over the fitting or not, it's been four years since I replaced mine. If not, you can always split it and re-glue it, it's really only there to keep the line from rubbing through on the bracket. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Max wrote: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: How do I install this? Will it fit over the fitting at the vacuum pump? This is the rubber grommet which holds the main vacuum line at the bracket on the primary fuel filter, front top of the engine. -- Forgot to say Thanks! Rusty, the valve guides, grommet and sun roof tool all arrived this a.m. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
I got some LED lamps from a buddy who didn't like them, as he thought they were too blue for his liking. $25 for three 60W equivalent screw base bulbs he had hardly used. Yes, they are very blue or white, but we don't care and would rather save the money and minimize the heat load. I have six can or recessed lighting fixtures in my kitchen that use the PAR 30 lamps. Right now they have the CFL versions in them, but I don't like hem as they take a few minutes to come up to full brightness. Better than incandescents as far as power consumption and heat load, but as soon as I can swing it I'm going to buy LED replacements for them. Dan On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: The phosphors in fluorescent lamps vary all over the map, and cheap wins out over wide spectrum every time. The lamps work by the coating on the inside of the tubes absorbing the long wave UV produced by the mercury vapor lamp and emitting light in the visible range, along with allowing the typical blue and green emission lines of mercury vapor lamps to pass through. The coating makes all the difference, and for a while almost all CCFL replacement bulbs were fairly high kelvin (color temperature) rated, at least photoflood B range. Lately the warm white crowd that likes dim incandescent lamps that sorta glow orange/white -- like a weak 40W incandescent -- have taken over and it's hard to find a bright white bulb that mimics daylight. i've never liked low temperature bulbs, so I have to dig and dig to get what I want. The good thing is that the cheapo Chinese LED lamps are wide spectrum, strong on the blue end, and I'll have to get some more of them. Vastly better than CCFL, and from that auction site around $8 or so. Not bad for a permanent lamp. Only question I have is why none of the American manufacturers (read supply companies now that just contract for overseas goods) design or make any of this stuff? I'm fairly certain that at $100 a barrel for oil, it costs more to ship them from China that to make them here. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Maybe that's why I prefer the GE where did my eyes go? CFL bulbs. The ones that glow green for a bit after you turn them off. Walt, who dislikes incandescent bulbs in drop light enclosures as well On Jan 20, 2012 10:09 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Usually affects me most in January and into Feb, but this year I've been outside much more than usual since it's been in the 50's most of the month. I used to stick my head in the growth chambers at school, where the light was almost full sun level. Made me feel much better for some reason. You can provide nearly full spectrum light by mixing incandescent bulbs with cool white fluorescents, or use the high kelvin temperature CCFL spiral things. Not the warm white, the bright bluish ones. Peter On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: That being said, I could deal with the winter, but not the lack of sunlight. That part really messed me up. Yeah. Seasonally Affected Depression. Big fun. If my oldest kid gets into trouble, it's around Christmas. I get precious little done after November until March or so. I probably ought to build a big light box and sit in front of it for an hour or two a day. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
Buy decent spirits, it's cheaper, you won't go to jail, and you won't get stuck with some really nasty crap. I have had superb home made whiskey (it's not shine when it's been aged in an oak barrel for ten years!), but I'm not interested in something some backwoods genius boiled off. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: My inlaws are from the Appalachian foothills, and occasionally will have some of those Mason jars with the clear liquid in them. I have had nasty stuff and some so smooth you could hardly taste it. Just small amounts, thank you, I don't want to ingest the lead from the solder joints on the radiator they were using as a condenser. Dan On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Really? A bottle of 192 proof spirytus is less than $17, and you don't need to worry about methanol, flavonoids, etc from a still. Only time we made 'shine, it cost more in time than the end product was worth, since it still tasted like the skunk wine it was made from, just with more bite. Walt On Jan 21, 2012 5:26 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at the local welding shop a few weeks ago, sitting outside the shop was this big stainless steel pot, maybe 25-30gal or so, with a new conical top the guy had welded up, with a pipe nub sticking out of the top. Plenty of money to be made (and plenty of risk too) if you become a 'shiner. We'll know what's up when you buy that E55, as your current crop of vehicles probably doesn't include one fast enough to outrun.the revenuers... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
I don't have a problem with the blue -- if I want to sleep, I'll turn the light off! I'm almost always doing something -- reading, writing, working on watches, etc when I have a light on, I prefer wide spectrum illumination Some people do really seem to prefer the orange glow, though. Makes them feel cozy, I guess. I also tend to paint the whole house bright ceiling white, so I suppose I'm not a typical lamp user either. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I got some LED lamps from a buddy who didn't like them, as he thought they were too blue for his liking. $25 for three 60W equivalent screw base bulbs he had hardly used. Yes, they are very blue or white, but we don't care and would rather save the money and minimize the heat load. I have six can or recessed lighting fixtures in my kitchen that use the PAR 30 lamps. Right now they have the CFL versions in them, but I don't like hem as they take a few minutes to come up to full brightness. Better than incandescents as far as power consumption and heat load, but as soon as I can swing it I'm going to buy LED replacements for them. Dan On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: The phosphors in fluorescent lamps vary all over the map, and cheap wins out over wide spectrum every time. The lamps work by the coating on the inside of the tubes absorbing the long wave UV produced by the mercury vapor lamp and emitting light in the visible range, along with allowing the typical blue and green emission lines of mercury vapor lamps to pass through. The coating makes all the difference, and for a while almost all CCFL replacement bulbs were fairly high kelvin (color temperature) rated, at least photoflood B range. Lately the warm white crowd that likes dim incandescent lamps that sorta glow orange/white -- like a weak 40W incandescent -- have taken over and it's hard to find a bright white bulb that mimics daylight. i've never liked low temperature bulbs, so I have to dig and dig to get what I want. The good thing is that the cheapo Chinese LED lamps are wide spectrum, strong on the blue end, and I'll have to get some more of them. Vastly better than CCFL, and from that auction site around $8 or so. Not bad for a permanent lamp. Only question I have is why none of the American manufacturers (read supply companies now that just contract for overseas goods) design or make any of this stuff? I'm fairly certain that at $100 a barrel for oil, it costs more to ship them from China that to make them here. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Maybe that's why I prefer the GE where did my eyes go? CFL bulbs. The ones that glow green for a bit after you turn them off. Walt, who dislikes incandescent bulbs in drop light enclosures as well On Jan 20, 2012 10:09 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Usually affects me most in January and into Feb, but this year I've been outside much more than usual since it's been in the 50's most of the month. I used to stick my head in the growth chambers at school, where the light was almost full sun level. Made me feel much better for some reason. You can provide nearly full spectrum light by mixing incandescent bulbs with cool white fluorescents, or use the high kelvin temperature CCFL spiral things. Not the warm white, the bright bluish ones. Peter On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: That being said, I could deal with the winter, but not the lack of sunlight. That part really messed me up. Yeah. Seasonally Affected Depression. Big fun. If my oldest kid gets into trouble, it's around Christmas. I get precious little done after November until March or so. I probably ought to build a big light box and sit in front of it for an hour or two a day. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/ mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or
Re: [MBZ] COMAND
They're still called COMAND... every generation has been. And there are many generations. 10 or more at this point? You can't really generalize by saying todays system since this describes at least three of them of different ages from three different suppliers which go into different car lines. COMAND is short for cockpit management and data system or something like that. It describes the complete in car infortainment, telematics, and navigation. This means radio, telephone, some car controls like climate control or seats, and so on. Jaime On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:42 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...What is COMMAND? Electronic controls of some sort?.. It's COMAND and it was the made-up name MB hung on their first Nav system which was obsolete when it was introduced. Even today's system is not leading the pack. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
some backwoods genius Hey -- I resemble that remark! Y'all are a bunch of buzzkillers. There is a guy on the next island over (Wadmalaw) who has a vineyard and distillery and they make some really foul wine but brew up some half decent spirits. I figured if they can do it, then so can I! --R --R On 1/21/12 10:18 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: Buy decent spirits, it's cheaper, you won't go to jail, and you won't get stuck with some really nasty crap. I have had superb home made whiskey (it's not shine when it's been aged in an oak barrel for ten years!), but I'm not interested in something some backwoods genius boiled off. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: My inlaws are from the Appalachian foothills, and occasionally will have some of those Mason jars with the clear liquid in them. I have had nasty stuff and some so smooth you could hardly taste it. Just small amounts, thank you, I don't want to ingest the lead from the solder joints on the radiator they were using as a condenser. Dan On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Really? A bottle of 192 proof spirytus is less than $17, and you don't need to worry about methanol, flavonoids, etc from a still. Only time we made 'shine, it cost more in time than the end product was worth, since it still tasted like the skunk wine it was made from, just with more bite. Walt On Jan 21, 2012 5:26 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at the local welding shop a few weeks ago, sitting outside the shop was this big stainless steel pot, maybe 25-30gal or so, with a new conical top the guy had welded up, with a pipe nub sticking out of the top. Plenty of money to be made (and plenty of risk too) if you become a 'shiner. We'll know what's up when you buy that E55, as your current crop of vehicles probably doesn't include one fast enough to outrun.the revenuers... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] COMAND
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: COMAND is short for cockpit management and data system or something like that. It describes the complete in car infortainment, telematics, and navigation. This means radio, telephone, some car controls like climate control or seats, and so on. Am I correct in assuming that if I'm buying a 2000-2003 E320 that I'll keep for quite a while, I'd be better off without the COMAND option? It seems to be quite prevalent in wagons, especially the 2002s, but less common in 2000-2001 and sedans. BTW, has anybody actually seen a 2003 210 wagon? I don't think I've seen any offered for sale in the 3 months I've been looking. They probably looked outdated sitting on the dealer's lot next to the 211 sedans. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4matic
Well, I guess I'll hafta just keep being inadequate. BTW, 'don't know anybody I hafta impress; SWMBO is not even impressionable, any more.;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4matic WILTON wrote: somebody remind me why I might want/need a 4matic. Status!!! You aren't really a man unless you own a 4-matic! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
No worries, if it tastes bad or makes your neighbor go blind, sell it as Ethanol and get a govmnt rebate. Remember, if it destroys lives, it will be good enough to destroy your car. Think green... Solent green [hum the theme song to Beverly Hillbilllys] On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at the local welding shop a few weeks ago, sitting outside the shop was this big stainless steel pot, maybe 25-30gal or so, with a new conical top the guy had welded up, with a pipe nub sticking out of the top. Plenty of money to be made (and plenty of risk too) if you become a 'shiner. We'll know what's up when you buy that E55, as your current crop of vehicles probably doesn't include one fast enough to outrun.the revenuers... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] COMAND
Well, the thing is the with those W210 COMANDs is that if they break, its expensive to replace them. Otherwise the cars came with a DIN radio, so you can make a lot of things work, and getting the original radio repaired is much less expensive. So... yeah, I'd probably avoid it too. With the W211, the COMAND is much improved and I'd recommend it. You don't really have much of a choice however, only early 2003 models came without COMAND and the system they did come with was just about as complicated in the event of failure. But that system was in lots of cars for many years and saw a lot of improvements with software updates. And new map databases are still being created annually. The Maybach is still in production with a similar system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: COMAND is short for cockpit management and data system or something like that. It describes the complete in car infortainment, telematics, and navigation. This means radio, telephone, some car controls like climate control or seats, and so on. Am I correct in assuming that if I'm buying a 2000-2003 E320 that I'll keep for quite a while, I'd be better off without the COMAND option? It seems to be quite prevalent in wagons, especially the 2002s, but less common in 2000-2001 and sedans. BTW, has anybody actually seen a 2003 210 wagon? I don't think I've seen any offered for sale in the 3 months I've been looking. They probably looked outdated sitting on the dealer's lot next to the 211 sedans. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T New VW Super Bow commercial
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: It wouldn't, really. The 'real' block heater is 400-500W, and heats the water jacket which heats the piston cylinders which makes for warmer compression during the start, which is what you need. Your 200W heater was half-sized, and was heating the oil which was in a pan below the engine, and insulated by a nice air barrier. Better than nothing, perhaps, but not good enough. Agreed. Heating the oil should allow the starter to turn the engine a bit faster, which may make the difference between starting or not, but heating the block is better. My OM617 started right up yesterday morning, at 15F with no block heating the night before. And I'm even running conventional (Delo) 15W40 right now since the proper M1 is hard to find around here. NAPA has Lubi-Moly synthetic diesel oil in 5l containers which I'm going to try next change. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4matic
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: So, that's ~200 lbs. that you hafta haul around ALL of the time and likely never need it, plus all that extra stuff to go wrong. MBs are already hauling around hundreds of extra pounds of steel in the form of heavier panels and other structural steel compared to something like a Toyota or Kia. And you'll likely never need it unless you're in a wreck. 4matic can help keep you out of accidents, so you could look at it as just an extension of the safety rationale many people use to justify driving a Benz. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
Not bad for a permanent [LED] lamp. Why 'permanent'? So far as I know all 'white' LED's are just fluorescents, but excited by UV from an LED rather than a mercury vapor discharge. So besides the aging of the LED itself there's phosphor aging too, just like a conventional fluorescent. (Which dim over time.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
If you don't know what you are doing, distilling spirits can be very dangerous. Couple dozen people died a week or so ago in India from bad distillation of spirits. Aside from the methanol, all the fusel alcohols taste bad, give you horrible hangovers, and some of them are quite toxic. Lead from home soldered condensers is also a significant problem -- we all get enough heavy metal poisoning just by breathing coal fired power plant exhaust, we don't need any more. There are other things, including nasties from a fermentation gone bad, that will distill over, too. The old families in the hills that have been shining for years do OK, but many of the boil and run guys make bad booze. Thin, acid, low quality wine seems to made the best brandy, but not until it's been aged in oak for a few years. If it's rank, it will make nasty tasting brandy, too. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:24 AM, G Mann wrote: No worries, if it tastes bad or makes your neighbor go blind, sell it as Ethanol and get a govmnt rebate. Remember, if it destroys lives, it will be good enough to destroy your car. Think green... Solent green [hum the theme song to Beverly Hillbilllys] On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at the local welding shop a few weeks ago, sitting outside the shop was this big stainless steel pot, maybe 25-30gal or so, with a new conical top the guy had welded up, with a pipe nub sticking out of the top. Plenty of money to be made (and plenty of risk too) if you become a 'shiner. We'll know what's up when you buy that E55, as your current crop of vehicles probably doesn't include one fast enough to outrun.the revenuers... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4matic
But man, oh man, you want that extra steel when some bozo runs a traffic light and you can't get away! BTDT Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Allan Streib wrote: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: So, that's ~200 lbs. that you hafta haul around ALL of the time and likely never need it, plus all that extra stuff to go wrong. MBs are already hauling around hundreds of extra pounds of steel in the form of heavier panels and other structural steel compared to something like a Toyota or Kia. And you'll likely never need it unless you're in a wreck. 4matic can help keep you out of accidents, so you could look at it as just an extension of the safety rationale many people use to justify driving a Benz. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4matic
Allan Streib wrote: MBs are already hauling around hundreds of extra pounds of steel in the form of heavier panels and other structural steel compared to something like a Toyota or Kia. And you'll likely never need it unless you're in a wreck. 4matic can help keep you out of accidents, so you could look at it as just an extension of the safety rationale many people use to justify driving a Benz. That's pretty much why I think I want a 2000-2003 210 with 4matic. If I don't use 4matic and ESP as excuses to drive faster on slippery roads, the car should be much safer with those features. I'm slightly less eager to stick a new teen driver in such a car, because 4 wheel powered ESP probably takes away the normal signals that they're driving too fast. How can you learn how fast is too fast if too fast feels the same as not driving too fast (until you slide off a curve)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
No, blue LEDs have been in production for some years now. No phosphors, which is why they are so cheap to run. Something like 3W is equal to a 40W incandescent, and if the LEDs were properly made and the underlying materials are good (the plastic frame, solder, etc) they should last essentially forever. Big problem at the moment is getting 110V bulbs at a reasonable price. Most of them are 220V for the European market, and they won't just plug in. The next thing that will show up, I think, is 12V wiring to get rid of the necessary power supply in each lamp -- that would push the price down a couple of bucks each! Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Not bad for a permanent [LED] lamp. Why 'permanent'? So far as I know all 'white' LED's are just fluorescents, but excited by UV from an LED rather than a mercury vapor discharge. So besides the aging of the LED itself there's phosphor aging too, just like a conventional fluorescent. (Which dim over time.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: Why 'permanent'? So far as I know all 'white' LED's are just fluorescents, but excited by UV from an LED rather than a mercury vapor discharge. So besides the aging of the LED itself there's phosphor aging too, just like a conventional fluorescent. (Which dim over time.) Just give me incandescents please. Cheap, pleasing light, no hazmat team needed for disposal (and if they are toxic themselves, what about the by-products of manufacture?) I'll gladly replace them a little more often (and I've NEVER had a CFL come anywhere close to its claimed lifespan anyway) and pay the small extra amount on my electric bill. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4matic
And, they are NOT heavier -- Benz uses higher strength steel, starting in the W126. My 220D was the exact dimensions and weight of my sister in law's 1985 Buick Century, but far better at crash protection and had much more room inside. Part of what you pay for, I think. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: But man, oh man, you want that extra steel when some bozo runs a traffic light and you can't get away! BTDT Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Allan Streib wrote: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: So, that's ~200 lbs. that you hafta haul around ALL of the time and likely never need it, plus all that extra stuff to go wrong. MBs are already hauling around hundreds of extra pounds of steel in the form of heavier panels and other structural steel compared to something like a Toyota or Kia. And you'll likely never need it unless you're in a wreck. 4matic can help keep you out of accidents, so you could look at it as just an extension of the safety rationale many people use to justify driving a Benz. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4matic
Peter Frederick wrote: And, they are NOT heavier -- Benz uses higher strength steel, starting in the W126. My 220D was the exact dimensions and weight of my sister in law's 1985 Buick Century, but far better at crash protection and had much more room inside. You're referring to the W124 1987 300D that you wrapped around the front of a work van, or a w115 220D, or something else? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
That's because most of them made now are junk. I still have a few Osram cfl's burning that have Made in USA on them. When I started using cfl's, I had to buy them at the electrical supply house. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I'll gladly replace them a little more often (and I've NEVER had a CFL come anywhere close to its claimed lifespan anyway) and pay the small extra amount on my electric bill. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4matic
The W124 is a bit lighter than the Century, same size. That's the one I got T-boned in. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: And, they are NOT heavier -- Benz uses higher strength steel, starting in the W126. My 220D was the exact dimensions and weight of my sister in law's 1985 Buick Century, but far better at crash protection and had much more room inside. You're referring to the W124 1987 300D that you wrapped around the front of a work van, or a w115 220D, or something else? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T New VW Super Bow commercial
The original problem statement sounds to me like the starter is not spinning fast enough to get a start. Further, the problem [in warm weather, if I understand correctly] happened when the car was at operational temperature. This problem set seems to indicate the starter solenoid is not making full contact when commanded to close the circuit for full [heavy cable] power to the starter. Heat or cold would influence how well the solenoid made contact. It could also be the starter it's self, bad contact at the brushes, dragging bearings, or weak field or armature coils. In any case, if you want to test the starter, removal seems likely. Most FLAPS will check test a starter for free. HTH, Grant... AZ... On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: It wouldn't, really. The 'real' block heater is 400-500W, and heats the water jacket which heats the piston cylinders which makes for warmer compression during the start, which is what you need. Your 200W heater was half-sized, and was heating the oil which was in a pan below the engine, and insulated by a nice air barrier. Better than nothing, perhaps, but not good enough. Agreed. Heating the oil should allow the starter to turn the engine a bit faster, which may make the difference between starting or not, but heating the block is better. My OM617 started right up yesterday morning, at 15F with no block heating the night before. And I'm even running conventional (Delo) 15W40 right now since the proper M1 is hard to find around here. NAPA has Lubi-Moly synthetic diesel oil in 5l containers which I'm going to try next change. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing M103 Top Timing Cover Seal
Dan- When did it it was MB sealant on the corners only IIRC- you've got the tube. Don't recall using anything else BUT that was around July 2007. And- there are only *6* pan screws; they look like sheet metal screws; something like a 5mm thread OD. If there is a second pan I've never seen it. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Luther's starter
I am thinking solenoid contacts too. Weird though. I have not seen these symptoms very often, but one time on the 240D, a used starter cured it. The original problem statement sounds to me like the starter is not spinning fast enough to get a start. Further, the problem [in warm weather, if I understand correctly] happened when the car was at operational temperature. This problem set seems to indicate the starter solenoid is not making full contact when commanded to close the circuit for full [heavy cable] power to the starter. Heat or cold would influence how well the solenoid made contact. It could also be the starter it's self, bad contact at the brushes, dragging bearings, or weak field or armature coils. In any case, if you want to test the starter, removal seems likely. Most FLAPS will check test a starter for free. HTH, Grant... AZ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Luther's starter
Bad brushes can do this as well -- no power transmitted to the amature will result in no spin. Time for a Bosch rebuild, most likely. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I am thinking solenoid contacts too. Weird though. I have not seen these symptoms very often, but one time on the 240D, a used starter cured it. The original problem statement sounds to me like the starter is not spinning fast enough to get a start. Further, the problem [in warm weather, if I understand correctly] happened when the car was at operational temperature. This problem set seems to indicate the starter solenoid is not making full contact when commanded to close the circuit for full [heavy cable] power to the starter. Heat or cold would influence how well the solenoid made contact. It could also be the starter it's self, bad contact at the brushes, dragging bearings, or weak field or armature coils. In any case, if you want to test the starter, removal seems likely. Most FLAPS will check test a starter for free. HTH, Grant... AZ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
I used lead free solder in my still. Single distillation give an ugly hooch. So I run it three times. I also start with known ingredients for the mash, and brew it myself. Quality feed stock and cleanliness for fermentation help. caly On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: If you don't know what you are doing, distilling spirits can be very dangerous. Couple dozen people died a week or so ago in India from bad distillation of spirits. Aside from the methanol, all the fusel alcohols taste bad, give you horrible hangovers, and some of them are quite toxic. Lead from home soldered condensers is also a significant problem -- we all get enough heavy metal poisoning just by breathing coal fired power plant exhaust, we don't need any more. There are other things, including nasties from a fermentation gone bad, that will distill over, too. The old families in the hills that have been shining for years do OK, but many of the boil and run guys make bad booze. Thin, acid, low quality wine seems to made the best brandy, but not until it's been aged in oak for a few years. If it's rank, it will make nasty tasting brandy, too. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:24 AM, G Mann wrote: No worries, if it tastes bad or makes your neighbor go blind, sell it as Ethanol and get a govmnt rebate. Remember, if it destroys lives, it will be good enough to destroy your car. Think green... Solent green [hum the theme song to Beverly Hillbilllys] On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at the local welding shop a few weeks ago, sitting outside the shop was this big stainless steel pot, maybe 25-30gal or so, with a new conical top the guy had welded up, with a pipe nub sticking out of the top. Plenty of money to be made (and plenty of risk too) if you become a 'shiner. We'll know what's up when you buy that E55, as your current crop of vehicles probably doesn't include one fast enough to outrun.the revenuers... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
If I were to do it for personal use, I'd use laboratory glassware. No contamination. But I think I'd find it overall cheaper and better tasting to just go to the liquor store. Even Old Grandad is likely better than what you could make at home as an amateur. clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: I used lead free solder in my still. Single distillation give an ugly hooch. So I run it three times. I also start with known ingredients for the mash, and brew it myself. Quality feed stock and cleanliness for fermentation help. caly -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
What sort of still do you have? What kind of hooch do you make? --R On 1/21/12 5:24 PM, clay monroe wrote: I used lead free solder in my still. Single distillation give an ugly hooch. So I run it three times. I also start with known ingredients for the mash, and brew it myself. Quality feed stock and cleanliness for fermentation help. caly ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
I put some of those curly lights in my recessed cans in my Houston house, and I think they got too hot and failed fairly regularly (so much for long life), but they were the regular ones not the recessed version (which seem to be curly lights in a plastic housing). I have not had very much luck with longevity in any of the ones I have used, esp in closed-in ceiling fixtures. When I get my kitchen lighted up I am going with the little halogens and some LEDs undercounter. I might buy some LED strips and hook up a microcontroller to get some colors or PWM dimming on them http://www.adafruit.com/products/306. That could be fun and introduce some psychedelia into the kitchen. --R On 1/21/12 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I got some LED lamps from a buddy who didn't like them, as he thought they were too blue for his liking. $25 for three 60W equivalent screw base bulbs he had hardly used. Yes, they are very blue or white, but we don't care and would rather save the money and minimize the heat load. I have six can or recessed lighting fixtures in my kitchen that use the PAR 30 lamps. Right now they have the CFL versions in them, but I don't like hem as they take a few minutes to come up to full brightness. Better than incandescents as far as power consumption and heat load, but as soon as I can swing it I'm going to buy LED replacements for them. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Frame measurement chart 108 109 110 111 112
Alles, in going through things, I discovered I have a frame measurement chart for 108, 109, 110, 111, and 112 chassis. This is used for frame straightening and other damage repairs, including rusty rockers. I will make a copy and send it to anyone who may need it. I am not sure if it is available from MB anymore. I remember I had some trouble obtaining it 20-30 years ago. If it got scanned, it may be readily available. If it was never scanned, it is most likely unobtanium. It is 11x17, so I can't scan it to a file. If you want a copy, send me an email offlist with your mailing address. -- Dieselhead126 Diesel a t gmail . com 87 300D 87 SDL 81 240D 2 pedals with 3 in wait. 80 240D 3 pedals ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
GIGO - works for most things I used lead free solder in my still. Single distillation give an ugly hooch. So I run it three times. I also start with known ingredients for the mash, and brew it myself. Quality feed stock and cleanliness for fermentation help. caly ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frame measurement chart 108 109 110 111 112
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:33:26 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: It is 11x17, so I can't scan it to a file. I can scan it to a file. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
We all need a hobby and I am not happy to pay the state 50% more to drink booze. Seattle is big on home brew, wine and now booze. Craft alcohol is a good way to thumb your nose at the 1%, as well as the Man. Go Teabags with power from the 99% clay On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Allan Streib wrote: If I were to do it for personal use, I'd use laboratory glassware. No contamination. But I think I'd find it overall cheaper and better tasting to just go to the liquor store. Even Old Grandad is likely better than what you could make at home as an amateur. clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: I used lead free solder in my still. Single distillation give an ugly hooch. So I run it three times. I also start with known ingredients for the mash, and brew it myself. Quality feed stock and cleanliness for fermentation help. caly -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W211
Am I correct in assuming that if I'm buying a 2000-2003 E320 that I'll keep for quite a while, I'd be better off without the COMAND option? It seems to be quite prevalent in wagons, especially the 2002s, but less common in 2000-2001 and sedans. BTW, has anybody actually seen a 2003 210 wagon? I don't think I've seen any offered for sale in the 3 months I've been looking. They probably looked outdated sitting on the dealer's lot next to the 211 sedans... The first W211 was 2003 and is to be avoided. Endless electronic grief and it took two years to figure them all out. Comand was not initially available and that fiasco has already been revealed here. 2006 and later 211's are OK. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
Right now I am using proof of concept cobbled together still I made out of a copper tea kettle and plumbing. Very inelegant. First batches were no better than rubbing alcohol. I would say the recent stuff is closer to Neverclear than pure grain. It is aging in mason jars and shipmate and I are trying to figure out where to find small oak casks. Maybe I need to get a craft cooperage going, clay On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: What sort of still do you have? What kind of hooch do you make? --R On 1/21/12 5:24 PM, clay monroe wrote: I used lead free solder in my still. Single distillation give an ugly hooch. So I run it three times. I also start with known ingredients for the mash, and brew it myself. Quality feed stock and cleanliness for fermentation help. caly ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
Grant wrote: Husbands From some guy on progressive radio today. A guy said he made a snow blower out his dishwasher. The radio guy wanted more information. Caller said he handed her a snow shovel. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Rusty wrote: Gerry, it is $75.00. You get dye, prepping agent and crack filler. I did it on my 1991 560SEC and it looks great. Take it over to banned... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
clay wrote: Maybe I need to get a craft cooperage going, You know Kevin Kenner? - from mercedeslist He is in Seattle and had a craft distillery shop for a while. Not enough money - he is back in tech. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
--R wrote: I put some of those curly lights in my recessed cans in my Houston house, and I think they got too hot and failed fairly regularly (so much for long life) Wasn't there a problem in early curly bulbs and being bottom-down versus bottom-up? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
I'm with you on painting everything white, saves on touch-up paint and means I can get away with way fewer fixtures. I also never have to say I need to go into a different room, I can't judge color in here. Drives my wife crazy -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:25:41 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question Message-ID: 3d867120-10bd-41fe-80f3-c1a0c15c9...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I don't have a problem with the blue -- if I want to sleep, I'll turn the light off! I'm almost always doing something -- reading, writing, working on watches, etc when I have a light on, I prefer wide spectrum illumination Some people do really seem to prefer the orange glow, though. Makes them feel cozy, I guess. I also tend to paint the whole house bright ceiling white, so I suppose I'm not a typical lamp user either. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
Don't know Kevin. Trying to have a craft distillery in Washington is near impossible. Too many rules and government intrusion. Better as a hobby. clay On Jan 21, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Mountain Man wrote: clay wrote: Maybe I need to get a craft cooperage going, You know Kevin Kenner? - from mercedeslist He is in Seattle and had a craft distillery shop for a while. Not enough money - he is back in tech. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D oil pan
Nice snow here yesterday. My son was out driving and went up onto a high curb - oops. I haven't looked at the oil sump, but the car runs and my ASE mechanic son waves it off as okay, except for perhaps interference at the oil pump pick-up. Has anyone here ever bent the oil sump and lived to tell about it? Can this wreck a known good engine? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
clay wrote: Don't know Kevin. Trying to have a craft distillery in Washington is near impossible. Too many rules and government intrusion. Better as a hobby. Yeah - he had a storefront someplace downtown for a while, even given the restrictive rules. Craft beer has been hot in the 'burbs but expensive. The concept of craft still seemed interesting when he started several years ago. Perhaps he has some contacts for equipment that you could scrounge through, or some tips for your craft endeavors? If you want email, I can get that for you offlist... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pan
If the oil pressure is OK, you are probably all right, but since that bottom pan comes off fairly easily, I'd pull it to check (and bash the dents back out, too) and put in a new gasket. You don't want to find out it was creased bad enough to start leaking AFTER all the oil leaks out. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Nice snow here yesterday. My son was out driving and went up onto a high curb - oops. I haven't looked at the oil sump, but the car runs and my ASE mechanic son waves it off as okay, except for perhaps interference at the oil pump pick-up. Has anyone here ever bent the oil sump and lived to tell about it? Can this wreck a known good engine? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
Craft distilling is gonna be really expensive -- all the real products have to age at least a few years in oak, so you need warehouse space, all those kegs, and get no return for at least 5 years. A microbrewery can product product in a month or so, big difference on cash flow. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Mountain Man wrote: clay wrote: Don't know Kevin. Trying to have a craft distillery in Washington is near impossible. Too many rules and government intrusion. Better as a hobby. Yeah - he had a storefront someplace downtown for a while, even given the restrictive rules. Craft beer has been hot in the 'burbs but expensive. The concept of craft still seemed interesting when he started several years ago. Perhaps he has some contacts for equipment that you could scrounge through, or some tips for your craft endeavors? If you want email, I can get that for you offlist... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W211
relng...@aol.com wrote: Am I correct in assuming that if I'm buying a 2000-2003 E320 that I'll keep for quite a while, I'd be better off without the COMAND option? It seems to be quite prevalent in wagons, especially the 2002s, but less common in 2000-2001 and sedans. BTW, has anybody actually seen a 2003 210 wagon? I don't think I've seen any offered for sale in the 3 months I've been looking. They probably looked outdated sitting on the dealer's lot next to the 211 sedans... The first W211 was 2003 and is to be avoided. Endless electronic grief and it took two years to figure them all out. Comand was not initially available and that fiasco has already been revealed here. 2006 and later 211's are OK. Hey Roger, have you seen a 2003 E class wagon? Do they exist? They are S210s, although the 2003 sedans are W211, right? As near as I can tell, the facelifted 210s are 2000-2002 sedans and 2000-2003 wagons, but I've never seen a 2003 wagon offered for sale so I'm beginning to think they didn't sell many that year. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pan
I just replaced the oil pan on my 300d. I think the pan and gasket were about $40 from Rusty. Not even worth taking a hammer to the old one. Mike On Jan 21, 2012 6:56 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: If the oil pressure is OK, you are probably all right, but since that bottom pan comes off fairly easily, I'd pull it to check (and bash the dents back out, too) and put in a new gasket. You don't want to find out it was creased bad enough to start leaking AFTER all the oil leaks out. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Nice snow here yesterday. My son was out driving and went up onto a high curb - oops. I haven't looked at the oil sump, but the car runs and my ASE mechanic son waves it off as okay, except for perhaps interference at the oil pump pick-up. Has anyone here ever bent the oil sump and lived to tell about it? Can this wreck a known good engine? Thanks. mao __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
Right now I am using proof of concept cobbled together still I made out of a copper tea kettle and plumbing. Very inelegant. First batches were no better than rubbing alcohol. I would say the recent stuff is closer to Neverclear than pure grain. It is aging in mason jars and shipmate and I are trying to figure out where to find small oak casks. Maybe I need to get a craft cooperage going, clay You need contacts in missouri, the cooperage capitol of the western hemisphere. Here are some. Inependent Stave is the largest. They have 1 gallon up. If you buy some barrels, I have some wooden spigots I was going to sell on fleabay some year. Here are some of the missouri options. Featured Barrels, Coopered Wood Products Companies for Missouri Hermannhof Inc Hermann, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; beverages, alcoholic: wines; binders: sausage meat; building products:.. Independent Stave Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; gift shop; kegs; walking aids; wood.. Salem Wood Products Inc Salem, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; industrial equipment suppliers; industrial.. McGinnis Wood Products Inc Cuba, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; kilns; lumber; lumber: kiln dried;.. ISCO Holding Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; walking aids Missouri Cooperage Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; gift shop; wood products: kitchen, bathroom household ware A K Cooperage LLC Higbee, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; kegs Independent Stave Co Inc New Florence, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; walking aids; wood products ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
that would be nice to get in contact with him. At this point we are looking at some old equipment from belly up biotech firms going on auction. There are some great chunks of tech that could be repurposed from vapor drug to booze. clay On Jan 21, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mountain Man wrote: clay wrote: Don't know Kevin. Trying to have a craft distillery in Washington is near impossible. Too many rules and government intrusion. Better as a hobby. Yeah - he had a storefront someplace downtown for a while, even given the restrictive rules. Craft beer has been hot in the 'burbs but expensive. The concept of craft still seemed interesting when he started several years ago. Perhaps he has some contacts for equipment that you could scrounge through, or some tips for your craft endeavors? If you want email, I can get that for you offlist... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
hobby distiller can probably spare a room for storage of mini casks. Would be simple to hold it the minimum 2yr that federal law requires for bourbon. If you have a ten gallon cask per year or so, you could mash at your child's birth and present them with a 21 year old cask when they get out of college. clay On Jan 21, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Craft distilling is gonna be really expensive -- all the real products have to age at least a few years in oak, so you need warehouse space, all those kegs, and get no return for at least 5 years. A microbrewery can product product in a month or so, big difference on cash flow. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Mountain Man wrote: clay wrote: Don't know Kevin. Trying to have a craft distillery in Washington is near impossible. Too many rules and government intrusion. Better as a hobby. Yeah - he had a storefront someplace downtown for a while, even given the restrictive rules. Craft beer has been hot in the 'burbs but expensive. The concept of craft still seemed interesting when he started several years ago. Perhaps he has some contacts for equipment that you could scrounge through, or some tips for your craft endeavors? If you want email, I can get that for you offlist... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
cool, thanks On Jan 21, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Right now I am using proof of concept cobbled together still I made out of a copper tea kettle and plumbing. Very inelegant. First batches were no better than rubbing alcohol. I would say the recent stuff is closer to Neverclear than pure grain. It is aging in mason jars and shipmate and I are trying to figure out where to find small oak casks. Maybe I need to get a craft cooperage going, clay You need contacts in missouri, the cooperage capitol of the western hemisphere. Here are some. Inependent Stave is the largest. They have 1 gallon up. If you buy some barrels, I have some wooden spigots I was going to sell on fleabay some year. Here are some of the missouri options. Featured Barrels, Coopered Wood Products Companies for Missouri Hermannhof Inc Hermann, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; beverages, alcoholic: wines; binders: sausage meat; building products:.. Independent Stave Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; gift shop; kegs; walking aids; wood.. Salem Wood Products Inc Salem, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; industrial equipment suppliers; industrial.. McGinnis Wood Products Inc Cuba, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; kilns; lumber; lumber: kiln dried;.. ISCO Holding Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; walking aids Missouri Cooperage Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; gift shop; wood products: kitchen, bathroom household ware A K Cooperage LLC Higbee, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; kegs Independent Stave Co Inc New Florence, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; walking aids; wood products ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
I was thinking more the theme song from Deliverance. Manfred Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:24:38 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners) No worries, if it tastes bad or makes your neighbor go blind, sell it as Ethanol and get a govmnt rebate. Remember, if it destroys lives, it will be good enough to destroy your car. Think green... Solent green [hum the theme song to Beverly Hillbilllys] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Luther's starter
Weather forecast for tomorrow is upper 30s, so I'll have Sarah help start while I figure out where 12+ is getting to in the system. nbsp;Thanks all for the suggestions. Luther On Jan 21, 2012 2:37 PM, Peter Frederick lt;psf...@earthlink.netgt; wrote: Bad brushes can do this as well -- no power transmitted to the amature will result in no spin. Time for a Bosch rebuild, most likely. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Dieselhead wrote: gt; I am thinking solenoid contacts too. Weird though. I have not gt; seen these symptoms very often, but one time on the 240D, a used gt; starter cured it. gt; gt; gt;gt; The original problem statement sounds to me like the starter is not gt;gt; spinning fast enough to get a start. Further, the problem [in warm gt;gt; weather, if I understand correctly] happened when the car was at gt;gt; operational temperature. gt;gt; gt;gt; This problem set seems to indicate the starter solenoid is not gt;gt; making full gt;gt; contact when commanded to close the circuit for full [heavy cable] gt;gt; power to gt;gt; the starter. Heat or cold would influence how well the solenoid made gt;gt; contact. It could also be the starter it's self, bad contact at the gt;gt; brushes, dragging bearings, or weak field or armature coils. gt;gt; gt;gt; In any case, if you want to test the starter, removal seems gt;gt; likely. Most gt;gt; FLAPS will check test a starter for free. gt;gt; gt;gt; HTH, gt;gt; gt;gt; Grant... gt;gt; AZ... gt; gt;nbsp; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Main vacuum line grommet
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: I don't remember if it slipped over the fitting or not, it's been four years since I replaced mine. If not, you can always split it and re-glue it, it's really only there to keep the line from rubbing through on the bracket. Thanks Peter, I'm contemplating heating the grommet, lubricating the fitting, and if that doesn't work then split it and Shoe-Goo may be my only hope. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Main vacuum line grommet
Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: Thanks Peter, I'm contemplating heating the grommet, lubricating the fitting, and if that doesn't work then split it and Shoe-Goo may be my only hope. If you're potentially going to cut and Shoe-Goo it, don't lubricate it with anything greasy. Use dish detergent or soap, something that can rinse off. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)
Your best bet may be to call Tim Hull at Tim's Repair. He has several sizes of oak barrels form MO that have not sold. My guess is that he may sell them under market. If you want several of one size, he probably won't have them. But he has one or two of several sizes. His customers sold stave bolts to the MO barrel makers. A stave bolt is a cut of choice white oak used to split staves out of. I think he traded services for barrels. Tim's Repair Shop 2655 Highway 2, Fort Madison, IA 52627 (319) 372-0573 Barrels come in 2-3 types. Whiskey barrels are charred. Wine barrels are charred differently. the other type is a paraffin sealed barrel. These are the type I grew up with , used for fresh fruit juice. I have 4 30 gal barrels that I saved. I have seen quite a few small barrels on fleabay, mostly from england/Britain. Prices are not bad. If you do a search for tourist things in the springfield, MO area, there is at least one retail shop for barrels and cooperage. If my memory is correct, that is run by independent stave. Whiskey barrels are 50 gal, and are difficult for one man to handle. 30 gal barrels are easily handled by one man who knows what he is doing. A 30 can be lifted vertically by two men to set it up on a counter like the old root beer barrel. Still about 150 per man, but doable by two stout farmers. cool, thanks On Jan 21, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Right now I am using proof of concept cobbled together still I made out of a copper tea kettle and plumbing. Very inelegant. First batches were no better than rubbing alcohol. I would say the recent stuff is closer to Neverclear than pure grain. It is aging in mason jars and shipmate and I are trying to figure out where to find small oak casks. Maybe I need to get a craft cooperage going, clay You need contacts in missouri, the cooperage capitol of the western hemisphere. Here are some. Inependent Stave is the largest. They have 1 gallon up. If you buy some barrels, I have some wooden spigots I was going to sell on fleabay some year. Here are some of the missouri options. Featured Barrels, Coopered Wood Products Companies for Missouri Hermannhof Inc Hermann, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; beverages, alcoholic: wines; binders: sausage meat; building products:.. Independent Stave Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; gift shop; kegs; walking aids; wood.. Salem Wood Products Inc Salem, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; industrial equipment suppliers; industrial.. McGinnis Wood Products Inc Cuba, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; kilns; lumber; lumber: kiln dried;.. ISCO Holding Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; walking aids Missouri Cooperage Co Inc Lebanon, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; gift shop; wood products: kitchen, bathroom household ware A K Cooperage LLC Higbee, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; kegs Independent Stave Co Inc New Florence, MO Products: Wood products: barrels, coopered; cooperage stock products; kegs; walking aids; wood products ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ratio Changes
Still on the trail of a 450SL. Not found one that suits my needs yet, but research is raising a few upgrade questions. Changing gearing ratios and increased fuel economy. Any insight one upgrading the rear diff to one from a 560SL with lower gearing? Might one also want to upgrade from the original 3 speed auto to the more peppy 4 speed? I figure it is a simple bolt on transmission upgrade. What are caveats for the differential upgrade? Whole transaxle swap or just the gearing? Driveshaft issues arising from swapping out the transmission? Just go with non benz tranny and drop a chebby engine in? clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers Keeping options open for using a wrecked om602 out of a w124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ratio Changes
clay monroe wrote: Still on the trail of a 450SL. Not found one that suits my needs yet, but research is raising a few upgrade questions. Changing gearing ratios and increased fuel economy. Get a 107 with a blown motor (maybe a 380 that tossed its timing chain?) and transplant the engine, 5sp overdrive tranny, and wiring harness from a wrecked W210 E320. 221hp and it's got to weigh less than any V8, especially the iron 450. 25+mpg hwy would be my guess, I think they get about 28-29 in a W210. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wiper Blades
Any opinions on what are good wiper blades? I used to like Rain-X Latitude, but the last batch I bought ain't what they used to be... Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiper Blades
I've had good luck with Trico, Advance sells them, cheap and streak free on my car. Walt On Jan 22, 2012 1:14 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Any opinions on what are good wiper blades? I used to like Rain-X Latitude, but the last batch I bought ain't what they used to be... Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
Peter wrote: Not bad for a permanent [LED] lamp. Jim Cathey wrote: Why 'permanent'? So far as I know all 'white' LED's are just fluorescents, but excited by UV from an LED rather than a mercury vapor discharge. Yup. However, my home-made spectrascope shows the spectrum from a number of white LEDs to be much smoother and broader than any of my fluorescents - compact or not. So besides the aging of the LED itself there's phosphor aging too, just like a conventional fluorescent. (Which dim over time.) And heat will kill the LED driver just as readily as it kills the CFL driver. And from what I have seen, a heat damaged driver board is the biggest cause of a failed CFL. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
