Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness

2012-03-24 Thread Barry Stark
Not sure if it means anything Rick but I did use anti-seize sparingly on
mine about 10 years ago. Of course I haven't had the occasion to take the
thing apart again yet. I don't know about using the Teflon tape. My concern
would be if a strip of that were to be squeezed out on assembly and come
adrift in the oiling system. Could it possibly plug up some of the channels
in the oil cooler?

Barry

 Okay. Another dumb question. Would it make any sense to apply anti-
 seize or Teflon tape to the oil cooler threads upon re-assembly? I am
 leaning toward anti-seize.  



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Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness

2012-03-24 Thread Dieselhead

Anit-seize, YES

teflon tape, no  for the reason Barry cited.

Okay. Another dumb question. Would it make any sense to apply 
anti-seize or Teflon tape to the oil cooler threads upon 
re-assembly? I am leaning toward anti-seize.  As it turns out, I 
have had bronchitis for the last week, and didn't get to work on it 
much, save for hosing the threads with PB Blaster every other day. 
Hopefully, I don't have to do them on this car again, but if I do, I 
doubt that I will have the luxury of waiting a week for a penetrant 
to do it's thing. Not that being ill is a luxury. In fact, it 
sucked. Darn near got pneumonia. 


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness

2012-03-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Barry Stark wrote:

Not sure if it means anything Rick but I did use anti-seize sparingly on
mine about 10 years ago. Of course I haven't had the occasion to take the
thing apart again yet. I don't know about using the Teflon tape. My concern
would be if a strip of that were to be squeezed out on assembly and come
adrift in the oiling system. Could it possibly plug up some of the channels
in the oil cooler?



Reminds me of the time, decades ago, that Popular Science did a feature on car 
mechanics. They sabotaged a car and had it towed to a shop, where they'd see how 
well the poor guy could figure out what was wrong with it. This got them a lot 
of 'unnecessary' fuel filter replacements along the way. The way I look at it, a 
fuel filter replacement was a diagnostic method on carbureted cars. It took five 
minutes to replace a 50 cent filter, which was probably overdue for replacement 
anyway.
One day they had a real failure, which the 'experts' couldn't fix because the 
problem wasn't with the part they had sabotaged. They took it to a mechanic, and 
he sacrificed his supper to work on their car until he found the problem. Turned 
out to be a flake of teflon tape that some idiot had put on the threads of the 
flare nut where the fuel line meets the filter housing. It got into the idle 
jet, and suddenly no fuel at idle. Popular Science was correct when they said 
that teflon tape on the threads of a flare fitting was a sign of incompetence.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Max Dillon
I need to make a small concrete marker, but I'd like the concrete to not
look like concrete, but appear as white as possible.  Alternatively, it
should be colored to look like natural stone.

 

Our beloved cat died yesterday, she was 17 years old.  I've built a casket
from wood (several weeks ago, when it was clear the end was near) and today
she will be interred in our yard.  We'd like to make a grave marker.  

 

I'm drawing inspiration from ancient Italian mosaics (the deceased came from
Italy).  I'm thinking that I can imbed pieces of colored stone into
concrete, and memorialize her name and other key data.

 

I'd like for the concrete to be as white as possible, or at least not the
typical concrete gray color but something more like a natural stone, so that
the mosaic will stand out. 

 

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD 337k miles (Headless Garage Queen)

'95 E300 305k miles

'73 Balboa 20

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness

2012-03-24 Thread G Mann
Anti seize on the thread portion only, carefully applied. The flare fitting
taper makes it's own metal to metal oil tight seal, the threads just hold
contact on the two surfaces.

Over time, the threads corrode and seize. Anti-seize helps prevent that.
Teflon tape pieces into your oil system is a disaster in process, don't go
there.
Anti-seize will mess up your oil sample if you send it in for lab testing,
but the materials in anti-seize are recognizable as such by a good lab.
[and you would have to really be slopy with it].

Teflon tape should never be used on flare fittings of any kind.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Barry Stark wrote:

 Not sure if it means anything Rick but I did use anti-seize sparingly on
 mine about 10 years ago. Of course I haven't had the occasion to take the
 thing apart again yet. I don't know about using the Teflon tape. My
 concern
 would be if a strip of that were to be squeezed out on assembly and come
 adrift in the oiling system. Could it possibly plug up some of the
 channels
 in the oil cooler?



 Reminds me of the time, decades ago, that Popular Science did a feature on
 car mechanics. They sabotaged a car and had it towed to a shop, where
 they'd see how well the poor guy could figure out what was wrong with it.
 This got them a lot of 'unnecessary' fuel filter replacements along the
 way. The way I look at it, a fuel filter replacement was a diagnostic
 method on carbureted cars. It took five minutes to replace a 50 cent
 filter, which was probably overdue for replacement anyway.
 One day they had a real failure, which the 'experts' couldn't fix because
 the problem wasn't with the part they had sabotaged. They took it to a
 mechanic, and he sacrificed his supper to work on their car until he found
 the problem. Turned out to be a flake of teflon tape that some idiot had
 put on the threads of the flare nut where the fuel line meets the filter
 housing. It got into the idle jet, and suddenly no fuel at idle. Popular
 Science was correct when they said that teflon tape on the threads of a
 flare fitting was a sign of incompetence.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Peter Frederick
There are coloring agents available for concrete, do a web search.  I  
suspect you will have better luck with natural stone colors than  
white, but there is no reason not to try.  Worst that will happen is  
you won't like it and have to do another one.


I can sympathize -- I lost my 19 year old cat last summer.

Peter

On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Max Dillon wrote:

I need to make a small concrete marker, but I'd like the concrete  
to not
look like concrete, but appear as white as possible.   
Alternatively, it

should be colored to look like natural stone.



Our beloved cat died yesterday, she was 17 years old.  I've built a  
casket
from wood (several weeks ago, when it was clear the end was near)  
and today

she will be interred in our yard.  We'd like to make a grave marker.



I'm drawing inspiration from ancient Italian mosaics (the deceased  
came from

Italy).  I'm thinking that I can imbed pieces of colored stone into
concrete, and memorialize her name and other key data.



I'd like for the concrete to be as white as possible, or at least  
not the
typical concrete gray color but something more like a natural  
stone, so that

the mosaic will stand out.



Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD 337k miles (Headless Garage Queen)

'95 E300 305k miles

'73 Balboa 20





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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread G Mann
My condolences on the passing of your friend.

You might try using a mortar mix with white sand.  Check with your local
flooring supply [tile people] and see what they have. Many times grout mix
is lighter in color and when mixed with white sand you might get the
desired effect.

I presume you are using a casting box to make the monument? If you line
that with plastic sheeting you should be able to run a test batch and try
the mix for color.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 I need to make a small concrete marker, but I'd like the concrete to not
 look like concrete, but appear as white as possible.  Alternatively, it
 should be colored to look like natural stone.



 Our beloved cat died yesterday, she was 17 years old.  I've built a casket
 from wood (several weeks ago, when it was clear the end was near) and today
 she will be interred in our yard.  We'd like to make a grave marker.



 I'm drawing inspiration from ancient Italian mosaics (the deceased came
 from
 Italy).  I'm thinking that I can imbed pieces of colored stone into
 concrete, and memorialize her name and other key data.



 I'd like for the concrete to be as white as possible, or at least not the
 typical concrete gray color but something more like a natural stone, so
 that
 the mosaic will stand out.



 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD 337k miles (Headless Garage Queen)

 '95 E300 305k miles

 '73 Balboa 20





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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Max
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

There are coloring agents available for concrete, do a web search.  


Web search reveals a bewildering array of info.  I'm hoping someone has 
experience.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Dave in SoCal
Losing a pet is never easy.
17 years is a very full life but I know from experience that it never seems 
long enough.
My condolences to you.

White cement is available.
http://www.cement.org/decorative/about.asp

I would contact construction supply houses or suppliers to decorative concrete 
contractors.
There are a few good concrete forums these days. A long time ago I found good 
info at:
http://www.concretenetwork.com
but have not been there in years.

a quick search turned up:
http://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/decorative/white.html

Dave


On Mar 24, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
 
 ...I'd like for the concrete to be as white as possible, or at least not the
 typical concrete gray color but something more like a natural stone, so that
 the mosaic will stand out. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Max wrote:

Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

There are coloring agents available for concrete, do a web search.  



Web search reveals a bewildering array of info.  I'm hoping someone has 
experience.


I've seen beige concrete block that looks a lot like sandstone.
I wonder if you could buy a 'natural finish' block and sandblast kitty's name in 
the face like the monument companies do with polished marble? (they hand cut a 
rubber stencil, attach it to the block, and blast out the letters)


http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/concrete-cement-masonry/blocks/4w-x-8h-x-16l-solid-split-face-corner/p-1713022-c-5647.htm

Or, better yet, could you get a broken off chunk of milled and polished monument 
marble from the local monument guy and make a miniature headstone from it?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Dieselhead
Masonry supply houses carry coloring agents and can tell you how to 
mix it.  I used walnut color for mortar.  It came in a 5 lb box.  If 
memory serves, I mixed 8 shovels of sand with a cool whip container 
of portland and equal part of of hydrated lime.  To this I added a 
armor hash can full of the color.  that amounted to about a cup and a 
half.


I would guess one to two cups of color mixed with a bag of premix 
concrete or mortar mix would work.  If you find a large masonry 
contractor, they might give you that small amount of color. 
Otherwise a masonry supply should be able to sell you a box.





I need to make a small concrete marker, but I'd like the concrete to not
look like concrete, but appear as white as possible.  Alternatively, it
should be colored to look like natural stone.



Our beloved cat died yesterday, she was 17 years old.  I've built a casket
from wood (several weeks ago, when it was clear the end was near) and today
she will be interred in our yard.  We'd like to make a grave marker. 




I'm drawing inspiration from ancient Italian mosaics (the deceased came from
Italy).  I'm thinking that I can imbed pieces of colored stone into
concrete, and memorialize her name and other key data.



I'd like for the concrete to be as white as possible, or at least not the
typical concrete gray color but something more like a natural stone, so that
the mosaic will stand out.



Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD 337k miles (Headless Garage Queen)

'95 E300 305k miles

'73 Balboa 20





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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Max
G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

My condolences on the passing of your friend.

You might try using a mortar mix with white sand.  

All good ideas, but wouldn't grout mix have a shorter life than concrete?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Max
Dave in SoCal w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:

Losing a pet is never easy.
17 years is a very full life but I know from experience that it never
seems long enough.
My condolences to you.

White cement is available.
http://www.cement.org/decorative/about.asp

Awesome, thanks Dave!
-- 
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Max
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Max wrote:
 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 There are coloring agents available for concrete, do a web search.  
 
 
 Web search reveals a bewildering array of info.  I'm hoping someone
has experience.

I've seen beige concrete block that looks a lot like sandstone.
I wonder if you could buy a 'natural finish' block and sandblast
kitty's name in 
the face like the monument companies do with polished marble? (they
hand cut a 
rubber stencil, attach it to the block, and blast out the letters)

http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/concrete-cement-masonry/blocks/4w-x-8h-x-16l-solid-split-face-corner/p-1713022-c-5647.htm

Or, better yet, could you get a broken off chunk of milled and polished
monument 
marble from the local monument guy and make a miniature headstone from
it?

Mitch.

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Thanks for the ideas.  I'd really like to try a mosaic rather than 
cutting/carving.  

A mosaic cat figure and appropriate words seems like a novel, personal, 
enduring and fitting way to memorialize.  A piece of art, if you will.  Maybe 
I'll start a new trend.

-- 
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Max,

Condolences on your loss.

We lost the last of our Chartreux bloodline April 4 of last year to cancer. As 
with the others, we had her remains cremated, which are now in a small cherry 
wood box that I made for her.

We like the idea of cremation rather than internment, as it allows us to keep 
them with us should we move.

I do like your marker idea - hope your successful in finding a resolution.

Dan with friends waiting at the rainbow bridge

On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I need to make a small concrete marker, but I'd like the concrete to not
 look like concrete, but appear as white as possible.  Alternatively, it
 should be colored to look like natural stone.
 
 
 
 Our beloved cat died yesterday, she was 17 years old.  I've built a casket
 from wood (several weeks ago, when it was clear the end was near) and today
 she will be interred in our yard.  We'd like to make a grave marker.  
 
 
 
 I'm drawing inspiration from ancient Italian mosaics (the deceased came from
 Italy).  I'm thinking that I can imbed pieces of colored stone into
 concrete, and memorialize her name and other key data.
 
 
 
 I'd like for the concrete to be as white as possible, or at least not the
 typical concrete gray color but something more like a natural stone, so that
 the mosaic will stand out. 
 
 
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD 337k miles (Headless Garage Queen)
 
 '95 E300 305k miles
 
 '73 Balboa 20
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness

2012-03-24 Thread Curt Raymond
How sloppy do you have to be with the teflon tape to get bits of it past a 
flare fitting?

-Curt

Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 05:49:21 -0700
From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Anti seize on the thread portion only, carefully applied. The flare fitting
taper makes it's own metal to metal oil tight seal, the threads just hold
contact on the two surfaces.

Over time, the threads corrode and seize. Anti-seize helps prevent that.
Teflon tape pieces into your oil system is a disaster in process, don't go
there.
Anti-seize will mess up your oil sample if you send it in for lab testing,
but the materials in anti-seize are recognizable as such by a good lab.
[and you would have to really be slopy with it].

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Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness

2012-03-24 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 How sloppy do you have to be with the teflon tape to get bits of it
 past a flare fitting?

The point is, teflon tape is to improve the seal on a threaded fiting,
and on a flare fitting the seal is not provided by the threads at all.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] OT - mixing colored concrete project

2012-03-24 Thread Max
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

Max,

Condolences on your loss.


Dan,

Yes, if we move we'll have to deal with that.  Thanks for your thoughts.  The 
marker would go with us, we'll decide if the bones also go if/when we reach 
that point.

Daughter spent this morning painting a picture of Princess the cat on the 
casket cover, which is simple plywood.  She's only five, tough for her to fully 
process this.  Lots of questions...

I've got to make a cushion for the casket, and dig a hole.

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Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness

2012-03-24 Thread G Mann
Only sloppy enough to inject a gob of teflon into an oil passage and seize
your engine... I suppose.

Teflon doesn't really protect threads from seizure like anti-seize does,
so my strong preference is anti-seize. In the case of a flare fitting
teflon provides no benefit for sealing the pipe joint, so why not use what
will let you take it apart later with the least problem.

Your personal choice dictates which method you live with.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 How sloppy do you have to be with the teflon tape to get bits of it past a
 flare fitting?

 -Curt

 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 05:49:21 -0700
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 Anti seize on the thread portion only, carefully applied. The flare fitting
 taper makes it's own metal to metal oil tight seal, the threads just hold
 contact on the two surfaces.

 Over time, the threads corrode and seize. Anti-seize helps prevent that.
 Teflon tape pieces into your oil system is a disaster in process, don't go
 there.
 Anti-seize will mess up your oil sample if you send it in for lab testing,
 but the materials in anti-seize are recognizable as such by a good lab.
 [and you would have to really be slopy with it].

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Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-24 Thread clay monroe
Day late, dollar short. While discussing the deal with SWMBA the car slipped 
through my fingers.. into the hand of the fellow who had yet to put money on 
the table.  He picked it up for his 18 year old daughter for $8500.  Having a 
truck take it to Vancouver BC for her birthday.

clay

On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 Given the choice, I would opt for the 380, as it is a nice balance of economy 
 and power.
 
 IMHO, the later V-8 models are detuned to the point of being worthless, not 
 to mention they are far from efficient (if that term could be used to 
 describe a V-8!)
 
 Dan
 
 On Mar 23, 2012, at 12:49 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 1983 380SL
 
 Timing chain was checked 10k ago and was fine
 
 On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Year?  560?  380? 450?  350?
 -- 
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 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Aluminum washer

2012-03-24 Thread Dwight Giles
Curt,
I hate to tell you but it was always a probelm on the filter on that 78. We
tried rubber and once we finally got a copper washer to work. We tried a
range of torque settings too.
Dwight

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hey,

 My '78 240D tends to eat the aluminum washer on the hollow bolt for the
 canister fuel filter. Last time I replaced it I snagged the one from my '83
 240D. I'm wanting to do a diesel purge and filter and figured to get a
 spare washer in case this one leaked after the replacement but Rusty tells
 me they're NA, that theres a rubber seal ring instead. Anybody else have
 this trouble? Anybody try a dealer? Is the rubber ring a suitable
 replacement? Anybody ever anneal an aluminum washer?

 -Curt

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[MBZ] Fwd: Save this Antique Mercedes Diesel - $800 (Mt Sunapee Area NH)

2012-03-24 Thread Fred Moir

Not Mine, etc.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Save this Antique Mercedes Diesel - $800 (Mt Sunapee Area NH)

2012-03-24 Thread Mitch Haley

I can remember the days when we had 'horsepower developed at the brochure'.

Now it's 40+mpg as measured in the internet advertisement.

I'm assuming that no auto tranny 240D, either W115 or W123, ever got 40mpg on a 
round trip to anywhere.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Save this Antique Mercedes Diesel - $800 (Mt Sunapee Area NH)

2012-03-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Running down hill?

Dan

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

I can remember the days when we had 'horsepower developed at the brochure'.

Now it's 40+mpg as measured in the internet advertisement.

I'm assuming that no auto tranny 240D, either W115 or W123, ever got 40mpg on 
a 
round trip to anywhere.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Save this Antique Mercedes Diesel - $800 (Mt Sunapee Area NH)

2012-03-24 Thread Mitch Haley

That's why I said 'round trip'.

Mitch.

Dan Penoff wrote:

Running down hill?

Dan

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


I can remember the days when we had 'horsepower developed at the brochure'.

Now it's 40+mpg as measured in the internet advertisement.

I'm assuming that no auto tranny 240D, either W115 or W123, ever got 40mpg on a 
round trip to anywhere.





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Re: [MBZ] R107 chubb

2012-03-24 Thread clay monroe
And yet he keeps on swinging!!!

Went out today to look at the SL I missed getting a look at in January due to 
the Seattle style blizzard.  Seller had to be out of town on work to Hawai'i 
instead of hanging out in the rain for three months.

1974 two tone 450SL.   Body is one of these green
STONEPINE GREEN DB862
CITROS GREENDB874
CALEDONIA GREEN DB867


With the top and hub caps in 
NICKEL GREENDB870

I think it is a good 5-10 footer.  A few rock chips in the body paint, and some 
crazing/alligator on the hard top.  Should survive a garaged life until I can 
amass a fortune to get a repaint with good clear.  No exterior rust that I 
could find,  Interior is another story.

The boot is not really bad.  Spare well is fairly dry and pretty rust free.  
The home of the battery on the newer models was a pool, and the drain was 
blocked, Clear that and it piddled right out. Will have to POR and paint.  Foot 
wells are a disaster, but not rot through.  Wire wheel and brush to get the 
rust gone and then POR-15 to seal it.  Shelf is dry without rust.  Battery home 
under the bonnet will need POR-15 as well.

No body damage at all according to the trusty magnet.  Light make photons.  No 
fogs.  Wipers wipe, but not washer fluid.  Either plugged nozzle or dead pump.  
Not a huge issue.

Good front end with great steering.  All new rubber bushings and Bilstein 
shocks.  Tie rods and steering metal, box adjusted 10k ago.  Sub frame was 
dealt with under recall.  Pretty solid and no scary corrosion going on.  Will 
need to paint the brake booster, air filter cover and other small stuff back to 
black.The rest of the engine compartment looks fine.  It is 38 years old, 
but has seen maintenance.  Even the hood pad is in good shape.

I am going to have her visit my indy early this week and then make offer.  He 
says he is firm at $3k, but I may be able to get a few pennies knocked off.

clay



On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:41 AM, John Freer wrote:

 FWIW, here's a list of the upgrades to the 560SL from the previous R1076's.
 
 According to MB, the following are among the items that were changed
 for the 560SL (only version 107.048):
 
 Different spring rate
 Harder shocks with shorter travel
 Larger torsion bar (up 1mm to 26mm)
 Front axle carrier (backwards compatible to previous 107/114/115)
 Front lower ctrl arm (extended to change geometry; 124 balljoint)
 Front upper ctrl arm (change of materials; replaceable balljoint)
 Steering knuckle/arm (from 124)
 Front hub (from 124/201)
 Brake discs (from 124/201)
 Steering (less travel, different pump)
 Prop shaft carrier (124; changed shape of tunnel to accommodate)
 Rear diff carrier (to get rid of the SL rear diff whine; better
 isolation, different mounts, and subframe mts left/right are
 different)
 Axle shafts (from SEC, but no vibration dampers)
 Fuel tank mount (because of the changed diff suspension)
 A-pillars (they don't say what changed)
 B-pillars (126 locks and strikers required redesign)
 Doors (126 door handles)
 Main floor (changed stiffening)
 Rear floor (?)
 Hood (cutout for larger brake booster)
 Firewall (presumably for the booster)
 Seats (more side bolstering)
 
 And of course, the front skirt was changed and they added the little spoiler.
 
 John
 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 No, I haven't, and I probably should have clarified my response to cover the 
 450SL only, which is the model I know the most about in the 107 line.
 
 I researched and inspected literally 30+ of these back in 2003-4 when I was 
 seriously considering purchasing a 450SL. I saw so many negative things on 
 that model while doing so that it completely jaded me in regards to it.
 
 These things are a dime a dozen in Florida, for some reason, and they all 
 have the same issues in various levels. And they are typically overpriced 
 for the condition as well.
 
 I have no doubt that by the time the 560SL came out much of this was ironed 
 out. That and the fact that there is a considerable increase in horsepower 
 between the models only makes sense that the 560SL would be far better.
 
 However, at the time the 560s were out of my price range, so they were never 
 under consideration.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mar 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mar 23, 2012 10:28 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Given the choice, I would opt for the 380, as it is a nice balance of
 economy and power.
 
 IMHO, the later V-8 models are detuned to the point of being worthless,
 Clearly you have not driven a 560 which has plenty of get-up-and-go either
 in the 107 or 126 (even by the standards of our bizarre modern world
 wherein minivans have 250+ hp).
 
 Alex
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[MBZ] Diesel Smelling Laundry

2012-03-24 Thread Rick Knoble
Okay, I know this has been posted about this before. I thought I saved the 
emails in my archives, but alas, they are not to be found. I know Clay posted 
on the subject. 

I got a small diesel fuel bath today and my work clothes reek. I need to wash 
them (at the laundromat) and get rid of the odor. SWMBA can't stand the smell 
of diesel.  Any ideas? For that matter, I will probably wash my red shop towels 
along with them. Any good detergents to help them come cleaner?

TIA,

Rick
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[MBZ] Philco-ford Cruise system

2012-03-24 Thread clay monroe
anybody versed in this set up?  The SL I am looking at uses that for CC, and I 
suspect it may be making the speedo wonky.  It is a mechanical/vac system for 
setting and maintaining speed.

The car is going to get a nice going over to remove some dead weight once she 
is mine.  Figure the catastrophic converter and AC will bite the dust.  AC does 
not function and unless it is a matter of iso-butane addition, I am not in need 
of it.  I do need to figure out how to bypass HADES cooling.  Thing just pumps 
out hot.  Mechanical system, so should be a way to get fresh air and bypass the 
cabin heat exchanger.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Smelling Laundry

2012-03-24 Thread clay monroe
Hot water and most any detergent will do.  I like the powders for this.  No 
need for scented, just hot and extra rinse.  My issue was that the filler seal 
had rotted out from the tank burping BioD.  Is seeped into the trunk.   That 
needed cat litter, baking soda, coffee grounds (fresh, not used) and time.  

clay

On Mar 24, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 Okay, I know this has been posted about this before. I thought I saved the 
 emails in my archives, but alas, they are not to be found. I know Clay posted 
 on the subject. 
 
 I got a small diesel fuel bath today and my work clothes reek. I need to wash 
 them (at the laundromat) and get rid of the odor. SWMBA can't stand the smell 
 of diesel.  Any ideas? For that matter, I will probably wash my red shop 
 towels along with them. Any good detergents to help them come cleaner?
 
 TIA,
 
 Rick
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[MBZ] Brakes

2012-03-24 Thread clay monroe
I ordered a brake set for Gump from Rusty.  Gump died prior to my installing 
the set.  What does the group opine as to transferability of said parts to a 
R107?

Set consists of all rotors, pads, hoses and some small stuff.  Right now I am 
listing it on CL, but if I can use it, then I will put it back on the shelf


clay 

1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers






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Re: [MBZ] More Oil Line Silliness

2012-03-24 Thread Benz Hogs
I would find it ok to use the yellow (gas rated) Teflon tape.  It 
handles BioD and Eth/methanol well, so I'm sure motor oil wouldn't hurt it.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (324,xxx mi)

On 3/24/2012 3:06 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

Anit-seize, YES

teflon tape, no for the reason Barry cited.


Okay. Another dumb question. Would it make any sense to apply
anti-seize or Teflon tape to the oil cooler threads upon re-assembly?
I am leaning toward anti-seize. As it turns out, I have had bronchitis
for the last week, and didn't get to work on it much, save for hosing
the threads with PB Blaster every other day. Hopefully, I don't have
to do them on this car again, but if I do, I doubt that I will have
the luxury of waiting a week for a penetrant to do it's thing. Not
that being ill is a luxury. In fact, it sucked. Darn near got pneumonia.
Rick
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