Re: [MBZ] terminology

[Rich Thomas]

Gomers

--R

On 5/19/12 8:45 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
Some emotional distance is absolutely necessary in medicine, else one 
would be an emotional wreck all the time.  All the little old ladies I 
worked with when a med tech could have been my grandma, but if I let 
myself get that attached to them, I'd be losing my grandma about twice 
a week.  Not doable.


One way this works is the proliferation of irreverent if not downright 
silly terminology.  It provides some distance while still allowing 
people to interact in a decent way with people, since the silly stuff 
stays in private, not in discussions with patients.


This is also why many medical people are reluctant to treat their 
relatives.


Peter

On May 19, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Doctors have to take some of the emotion out of what they are doing 
in order to be effective. They can't however lose all their emotions 
and compassion because bedside manner is equally important to the 
patient. It's a fine line. In a crisis situation you almost must lose 
all emotion to save a life. Your patient will ultimately thank you 
for it.


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On May 19, 2012, at 8:02 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...Ha. Funny thing is I learned the term from a buddy in medical school.
I use it like borked...

Then there is the medical term "crumped" which I always found 
unpleasant.


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Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift

[Dieselhead]

Don't be fooled.  they can leak too.  Mostly a mushy black connector. 
the hard plastic lines can crack, and the black connectors can crack 
too.


The modulator is suspect until you pull a vacuum on it and it holds.


'Can find nothing obviously amiss/loose vacuum wise; 'checked tranny 
fluid level; 'bout 1/4 inch below low mark; 'put in just a LITTLE 
BIT; 'check again tomorrow.  'Don't think its vacuum, 'less it can 
be just a LITTLE bit/partial; 'thought vacuum would all or none, 
though.  'Doesn't jerk like loose/missing vacuum that I've had 
before on '81 300D.


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift

[WILTON]

Planning to get the fluid and filter changed next week; unable to "fast it 
forward;" gotta wait for world to turn two, maybe, 'bout 3 or 4 more times.


Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift


Perhaps the actual modulator is toast, they do fail, to check em you 
attach a vaccy gauge and see if it holds vacuum.

And change the bloody fluid and filters, even I am not that slack.

Hendrik
who is shocked

On 20/05/12 06:56, WILTON wrote:
'Can find nothing obviously amiss/loose vacuum wise; 'checked tranny 
fluid level; 'bout 1/4 inch below low mark; 'put in just a LITTLE BIT; 
'check again tomorrow.  'Don't think its vacuum, 'less it can be just a 
LITTLE bit/partial; 'thought vacuum would all or none, though.  'Doesn't 
jerk like loose/missing vacuum that I've had before on '81 300D.


Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift

[Hendrik & Fay]

Perhaps the actual modulator is toast, they do fail, to check em you 
attach a vaccy gauge and see if it holds vacuum.

And change the bloody fluid and filters, even I am not that slack.

Hendrik
who is shocked

On 20/05/12 06:56, WILTON wrote:
'Can find nothing obviously amiss/loose vacuum wise; 'checked tranny 
fluid level; 'bout 1/4 inch below low mark; 'put in just a LITTLE BIT; 
'check again tomorrow.  'Don't think its vacuum, 'less it can be just 
a LITTLE bit/partial; 'thought vacuum would all or none, though.  
'Doesn't jerk like loose/missing vacuum that I've had before on '81 300D.


Wilton




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[MBZ] S123 resto job

[Hendrik & Fay]

This is an interesting on going saga about rebuilding a 200TE
http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=readersrides&action=display&thread=99494&page=1
will he finish or lose hope?
Guess we are lucky in Oz that cars don't rust that much.

Hendrik
who had a 230TE but scrapped it due to rust


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Re: [MBZ] terminology

[Peter Frederick]

Some emotional distance is absolutely necessary in medicine, else one  
would be an emotional wreck all the time.  All the little old ladies  
I worked with when a med tech could have been my grandma, but if I  
let myself get that attached to them, I'd be losing my grandma about  
twice a week.  Not doable.


One way this works is the proliferation of irreverent if not  
downright silly terminology.  It provides some distance while still  
allowing people to interact in a decent way with people, since the  
silly stuff stays in private, not in discussions with patients.


This is also why many medical people are reluctant to treat their  
relatives.


Peter

On May 19, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Doctors have to take some of the emotion out of what they are doing  
in order to be effective. They can't however lose all their  
emotions and compassion because bedside manner is equally important  
to the patient. It's a fine line. In a crisis situation you almost  
must lose all emotion to save a life. Your patient will ultimately  
thank you for it.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 19, 2012, at 8:02 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...Ha. Funny thing is I learned the term from a buddy in medical  
school.

I use it like borked...

Then there is the medical term "crumped" which I always found  
unpleasant.


RLE

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Re: [MBZ] terminology

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Doctors have to take some of the emotion out of what they are doing in order to 
be effective. They can't however lose all their emotions and compassion because 
bedside manner is equally important to the patient. It's a fine line. In a 
crisis situation you almost must lose all emotion to save a life. Your patient 
will ultimately thank you for it.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 19, 2012, at 8:02 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...Ha. Funny thing is I learned the term from a buddy in medical school. 
I use it like borked...

Then there is the medical term "crumped" which I always found unpleasant.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

My 2004 Focus wagon averages 24 MPG, even with the ICE COLD AC running in a 
mixed highway/city cycle.

If i get out on the interstate and run flat out, I have seen mileage 
approaching 28-29 mpg.




Sounds a lot like 4000lb of my awd 1999 e wagon.
My lifetime (since March 8, including 900 miles of 30+ mph headwinds driving it 
home) is probably 24-25 on premium. I've been averaging around 27 on ten mile 
trips since the weather got warm the last week or two.


On a warm, barely able to do without A/C trip in March I got 31mpg for 120 
miles, starting with a warm engine. I'd hope to get at least 35 in an old Focus 
on that drive, my 2.4L Achieva would have done 36-37. My Scanguage and the gas 
pump read within 1/20th of a gallon of each other, and I used the same  pump on 
starting and ending fills, so I think my reading for 120mi was reasonably accurate.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] terminology

[RELNGSON]

> ...Ha. Funny thing is I learned the term from a buddy in medical school. 
> I use it like borked...
> 
Then there is the medical term "crumped" which I always found unpleasant.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Rubbing/Polishing Compound

[Rick Knoble]

On May 19, 2012, at 6:19 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> POLISHING compound, which probably has a little finer grit that the RUBBING 
> compound.  How 'bout it, which is finer?


Polishing compound is finer. Glaze is finer still. 

Rick
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[MBZ] Rubbing/Polishing Compound

[WILTON]

Coupla weeks ago, somebody questioned my use of RUBBING compound and implied 
that it must've been POLISHING compound that I used on my two-month-old ''80 
240D in late '79 to smooth out the acid rain-etched paint.  Well, FYI, this 
afternoon, I found in my outbuilding two cans of RUBBING compound, one of which 
I used on the new '240D in '79.  Meanwhile, also this afternoon, I purchased a 
can of POLISHING compound, which probably has a little finer grit that the 
RUBBING compound.  How 'bout it, which is finer?

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Brian Toscano]

It could be, but the disk is a good starting point.

For example, on my Mac Book Pro with an eSATA ExpressCard, I can NOT
complete any lengthy disk tests without the tests stopping because of
failure.  It is something as easy as plugging in a USB device like my
phone.  Must be some interrupt issue.

However, using a FireWire interface, it works perfectly (though slower).


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:49:19 -0600 Brian Toscano
>  wrote:
>
> > Are you sure its a hardware problem?  I would test the drives before
> > condemning them.
>
> I ran both the Short offline self-test and the Extended offline self-test
> (smartctl -t  /dev/sda) and the disk passed. (I actually
> run the short test every night on cron and have seen no failures.
>
> I did download boot ISOs for the disk test routines from Seagate and
> Western Digital. I'll burn and run those later.
>
> Could it be something other than the hard disk?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Brian Toscano]

Dan,

I would say there are actually 3 levels of drives:

Cheap consumer drives - 1-3 year warranty

Better consumer drives - i.e. Caviar Black, 5 year warranty

Enterprise drives - 5 year warranty, usually designed for RAID arrays, i.e.
RE4



On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> The answer to both is yes.  They are perfectly compatible in both
> directions.
>
> As for drives, you have two choices:
>
> Consumer
>
> Enterprise
>
>
> You will pay probably 3x-4x more for the equivalent enterprise drive,
> depending on the vendor, but it will have a far better MTBF.
>
> It has been my experience of the last couple of years, part of which was
> working directly in an operation where both laptop and desktop computers
> were being repaired on a daily basis, that hard drives are pretty much a
> commodity.  In other words, it's so competitive that suppliers sell based
> on price, and willingly eat the warranty units that occur.  If you're
> interested in reliability, spend the money up front and buy an enterprise
> grade drive.
>
> There is a really good study done by Google (I think) on hard drive MTBFs
> and how they are really misleading.  You might want to Google it and read.
>
> Dan
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Craig wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:35:21 -0600 Craig  wrote:
> >
> >> Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?
> >
> > Another question:
> >
> > How intercompatible are 3.0 Gb/s SATA and 6.0 Gb/s SATA?
> >
> > Can one use a 6.0 Gb/s SATA disk on a 3.0 Gb/s interface?
> >
> > Can one use a 3.0 Gb/s SATA disk on a 6.0 Gb/s interface?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift

[WILTON]

'Can find nothing obviously amiss/loose vacuum wise; 'checked tranny fluid 
level; 'bout 1/4 inch below low mark; 'put in just a LITTLE BIT; 'check 
again tomorrow.  'Don't think its vacuum, 'less it can be just a LITTLE 
bit/partial; 'thought vacuum would all or none, though.  'Doesn't jerk like 
loose/missing vacuum that I've had before on '81 300D.


Wilton

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From: "OK Don" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift



I would guess (and that's all it is) that the first fill of oil should be
dino based, like using break-in oil in a new engine. At the first change
and there after, I'd use M1 - but that's just me.

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Max  wrote:


Larry T  wrote:

>Hey Wilton,
>When I put a rebuilt AT in my w124 last year (bought from Rusty,
>rebuilt
>by SunValley) I was planning to get the installation shop to put Mobil
>1
>ATF in but asked Sun Valley and they quickly replied that I should use
>Dexron II.


That's curious, did they give any reason?  I wonder if M1 ATF will extend
transmission life, or just cost more money.

M1 ATF did wonders for my '87 wagon, I suspect because it was cleaning up
deposits in the valve body.  Perhaps that is the best use for it, then
switch back to "regular" ATF once the benefit has been realized.

What other brands of ATF are recommended?  I think Jaime recommended the
Febi flavor that met MB specifications.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Don't be stealin' no gator! ynu3ama9

[G Mann]

Don't want to do any "hard time" in Lousianna.. no sireee!.
Pay that fine, kiss that judge, and smile when you see him in church on Wed
nite prayer meeting... Yessir.

The South has Rules... and Rulers... not like them damn yankeees.  haha

Grant AZ

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Highly regulated and permitted in Florida.  Take a gator without a permit
> or being licensed to do so will qualify you for some pretty substantial
> fines and/or jail time.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 4:44 PM, G Mann wrote:
>
> > Actually, gator hunting is a big dollar business in Cajun land. Takes a
> > special permit, for a specific number of gators, with a time limit on
> > taking them. The hunters bait long line hook traps back in the bayous and
> > then check them regularly. Everything on the gator is put to use [almost]
> > by those who buy them so the value "per foot" is high. If someone raids
> > your traps and steals gators from them, it's "high Cajun treason".
> >
> > A good day gator hunting can net you over $10,000 easily. Just thought
> you
> > might like to know.
> >
> > Grant...
> > in AZ but still a registered Coonass in Louezzziannna.
> >
> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Rich Thomas <
> > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I would guess that anyone caught stealing gators in weezianna might end
> up
> >> as gator bait out in the bayou, and would thus save the citizens the
> >> trouble of a trial, etc.  Them coonasses know how to take care of
> problems.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >> On 5/18/12 11:22 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
> >>
> >>> For your weekend entertainment:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In Looseyanna  'Specially one worth $501!   (sorry Russ, just couldn't
> >>> help it)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Full text of the Law
> >>> RS 14:67.13
> >>> 67.13. Theft of an alligator
> >>>
> >>> A. Theft of an alligator is the misappropriation or taking of an
> >>> alligator, an alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator, whether
> dead or
> >>> alive, belonging to another, either without the consent of the other
> to the
> >>> misappropriation or taking, or by means of fraudulent conduct,
> practices,
> >>> or representations. An intent to deprive the other permanently of the
> >>> alligator, the alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator is
> essential.
> >>> B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of theft of an alligator when the
> >>> misappropration or taking amounts to a value of five hundred dollars or
> >>> more shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more
> than ten
> >>> years, or may be fined not more than three thousand dollars, or both.
> >>> (2) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to a value of one
> hundred
> >>> dollars or more, but less than a value of five hundred dollars, the
> >>> offender shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more
> than
> >>> two years, or may be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or both.
> >>> (3) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to less than a value of
> >>> one hundred dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned for not more
> than six
> >>> months, or may be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or both.
> If the
> >>> offender in such cases has been convicted of theft of an alligator two
> or
> >>> more times previously, upon any subsequent conviction he shall be
> >>> imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than two years,
> or may
> >>> be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or both.
> >>> Acts 1992, No. 410, 1.
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Re: [MBZ] Don't be stealin' no gator! ynu3ama9

[Rich Thomas]

One of my cycling buddies (who is an oncologist) left cajunland a long 
time ago, but his roots are still there.  He has assimilated.  When 
pressed though he can put on the full coonass persona.  It's pretty funny.


--R

On 5/19/12 4:44 PM, G Mann wrote:

Actually, gator hunting is a big dollar business in Cajun land. Takes a
special permit, for a specific number of gators, with a time limit on
taking them. The hunters bait long line hook traps back in the bayous and
then check them regularly. Everything on the gator is put to use [almost]
by those who buy them so the value "per foot" is high. If someone raids
your traps and steals gators from them, it's "high Cajun treason".

A good day gator hunting can net you over $10,000 easily. Just thought you
might like to know.

Grant...
in AZ but still a registered Coonass in Louezzziannna.

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Rich Thomas<
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>  wrote:


I would guess that anyone caught stealing gators in weezianna might end up
as gator bait out in the bayou, and would thus save the citizens the
trouble of a trial, etc.  Them coonasses know how to take care of problems.

--R

On 5/18/12 11:22 PM, Dieselhead wrote:


For your weekend entertainment:




In Looseyanna  'Specially one worth $501!   (sorry Russ, just couldn't
help it)




Full text of the Law
RS 14:67.13
67.13. Theft of an alligator

A. Theft of an alligator is the misappropriation or taking of an
alligator, an alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator, whether dead or
alive, belonging to another, either without the consent of the other to the
misappropriation or taking, or by means of fraudulent conduct, practices,
or representations. An intent to deprive the other permanently of the
alligator, the alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator is essential.
B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of theft of an alligator when the
misappropration or taking amounts to a value of five hundred dollars or
more shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than ten
years, or may be fined not more than three thousand dollars, or both.
(2) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to a value of one hundred
dollars or more, but less than a value of five hundred dollars, the
offender shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than
two years, or may be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or both.
(3) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to less than a value of
one hundred dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned for not more than six
months, or may be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or both. If the
offender in such cases has been convicted of theft of an alligator two or
more times previously, upon any subsequent conviction he shall be
imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than two years, or may
be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or both.
Acts 1992, No. 410, 1.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Craig]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:49:19 -0600 Brian Toscano
 wrote:

> Are you sure its a hardware problem?  I would test the drives before
> condemning them.

I ran both the Short offline self-test and the Extended offline self-test
(smartctl -t  /dev/sda) and the disk passed. (I actually
run the short test every night on cron and have seen no failures.

I did download boot ISOs for the disk test routines from Seagate and
Western Digital. I'll burn and run those later.

Could it be something other than the hard disk?


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Re: [MBZ] Don't be stealin' no gator! ynu3ama9

[Dan Penoff]

Highly regulated and permitted in Florida.  Take a gator without a permit or 
being licensed to do so will qualify you for some pretty substantial fines 
and/or jail time.

Dan


On May 19, 2012, at 4:44 PM, G Mann wrote:

> Actually, gator hunting is a big dollar business in Cajun land. Takes a
> special permit, for a specific number of gators, with a time limit on
> taking them. The hunters bait long line hook traps back in the bayous and
> then check them regularly. Everything on the gator is put to use [almost]
> by those who buy them so the value "per foot" is high. If someone raids
> your traps and steals gators from them, it's "high Cajun treason".
> 
> A good day gator hunting can net you over $10,000 easily. Just thought you
> might like to know.
> 
> Grant...
> in AZ but still a registered Coonass in Louezzziannna.
> 
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> 
>> I would guess that anyone caught stealing gators in weezianna might end up
>> as gator bait out in the bayou, and would thus save the citizens the
>> trouble of a trial, etc.  Them coonasses know how to take care of problems.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> On 5/18/12 11:22 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
>> 
>>> For your weekend entertainment:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In Looseyanna  'Specially one worth $501!   (sorry Russ, just couldn't
>>> help it)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Full text of the Law
>>> RS 14:67.13
>>> 67.13. Theft of an alligator
>>> 
>>> A. Theft of an alligator is the misappropriation or taking of an
>>> alligator, an alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator, whether dead or
>>> alive, belonging to another, either without the consent of the other to the
>>> misappropriation or taking, or by means of fraudulent conduct, practices,
>>> or representations. An intent to deprive the other permanently of the
>>> alligator, the alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator is essential.
>>> B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of theft of an alligator when the
>>> misappropration or taking amounts to a value of five hundred dollars or
>>> more shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than ten
>>> years, or may be fined not more than three thousand dollars, or both.
>>> (2) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to a value of one hundred
>>> dollars or more, but less than a value of five hundred dollars, the
>>> offender shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than
>>> two years, or may be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or both.
>>> (3) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to less than a value of
>>> one hundred dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned for not more than six
>>> months, or may be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or both. If the
>>> offender in such cases has been convicted of theft of an alligator two or
>>> more times previously, upon any subsequent conviction he shall be
>>> imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than two years, or may
>>> be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or both.
>>> Acts 1992, No. 410, 1.
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Re: [MBZ] Don't be stealin' no gator! ynu3ama9

[G Mann]

Actually, gator hunting is a big dollar business in Cajun land. Takes a
special permit, for a specific number of gators, with a time limit on
taking them. The hunters bait long line hook traps back in the bayous and
then check them regularly. Everything on the gator is put to use [almost]
by those who buy them so the value "per foot" is high. If someone raids
your traps and steals gators from them, it's "high Cajun treason".

A good day gator hunting can net you over $10,000 easily. Just thought you
might like to know.

Grant...
in AZ but still a registered Coonass in Louezzziannna.

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I would guess that anyone caught stealing gators in weezianna might end up
> as gator bait out in the bayou, and would thus save the citizens the
> trouble of a trial, etc.  Them coonasses know how to take care of problems.
>
> --R
>
> On 5/18/12 11:22 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
>
>> For your weekend entertainment:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In Looseyanna  'Specially one worth $501!   (sorry Russ, just couldn't
>> help it)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Full text of the Law
>> RS 14:67.13
>> 67.13. Theft of an alligator
>>
>> A. Theft of an alligator is the misappropriation or taking of an
>> alligator, an alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator, whether dead or
>> alive, belonging to another, either without the consent of the other to the
>> misappropriation or taking, or by means of fraudulent conduct, practices,
>> or representations. An intent to deprive the other permanently of the
>> alligator, the alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator is essential.
>> B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of theft of an alligator when the
>> misappropration or taking amounts to a value of five hundred dollars or
>> more shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than ten
>> years, or may be fined not more than three thousand dollars, or both.
>> (2) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to a value of one hundred
>> dollars or more, but less than a value of five hundred dollars, the
>> offender shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than
>> two years, or may be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or both.
>> (3) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to less than a value of
>> one hundred dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned for not more than six
>> months, or may be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or both. If the
>> offender in such cases has been convicted of theft of an alligator two or
>> more times previously, upon any subsequent conviction he shall be
>> imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than two years, or may
>> be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or both.
>> Acts 1992, No. 410, 1.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Dan Penoff]

The answer to both is yes.  They are perfectly compatible in both directions.

As for drives, you have two choices:

Consumer

Enterprise


You will pay probably 3x-4x more for the equivalent enterprise drive, depending 
on the vendor, but it will have a far better MTBF.

It has been my experience of the last couple of years, part of which was 
working directly in an operation where both laptop and desktop computers were 
being repaired on a daily basis, that hard drives are pretty much a commodity.  
In other words, it's so competitive that suppliers sell based on price, and 
willingly eat the warranty units that occur.  If you're interested in 
reliability, spend the money up front and buy an enterprise grade drive.

There is a really good study done by Google (I think) on hard drive MTBFs and 
how they are really misleading.  You might want to Google it and read.

Dan

On May 19, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Craig wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:35:21 -0600 Craig  wrote:
> 
>> Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?
> 
> Another question:
> 
> How intercompatible are 3.0 Gb/s SATA and 6.0 Gb/s SATA?
> 
> Can one use a 6.0 Gb/s SATA disk on a 3.0 Gb/s interface?
> 
> Can one use a 3.0 Gb/s SATA disk on a 6.0 Gb/s interface?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift

[OK Don]

I would guess (and that's all it is) that the first fill of oil should be
dino based, like using break-in oil in a new engine. At the first change
and there after, I'd use M1 - but that's just me.

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Max  wrote:

> Larry T  wrote:
>
> >Hey Wilton,
> >When I put a rebuilt AT in my w124 last year (bought from Rusty,
> >rebuilt
> >by SunValley) I was planning to get the installation shop to put Mobil
> >1
> >ATF in but asked Sun Valley and they quickly replied that I should use
> >Dexron II.
>
>
> That's curious, did they give any reason?  I wonder if M1 ATF will extend
> transmission life, or just cost more money.
>
> M1 ATF did wonders for my '87 wagon, I suspect because it was cleaning up
> deposits in the valve body.  Perhaps that is the best use for it, then
> switch back to "regular" ATF once the benefit has been realized.
>
> What other brands of ATF are recommended?  I think Jaime recommended the
> Febi flavor that met MB specifications.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Brian Toscano]

If you have a drive that is acting weird, I would run a test on it.  If it
fails, get it replaced while its still under warranty.  Western Digital has
free software that will read every part of the disk. It can take 5-7 hours
for a 2TB drive if its connected with SATA/eSATA.

I'd have to research the SATA compatibility issue.

The manufacturers are using it, but I wouldn't pay more for a drive unless
I was considering using in a multi disk RAID configuration or considering
selling them down the road.  3GB = 300MB/s.  Individual drives cannot pump
that much data, and 2 drives in a striped config can't really do that
either.




On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:35:21 -0600 Craig  wrote:
>
> > Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?
>
> Another question:
>
> How intercompatible are 3.0 Gb/s SATA and 6.0 Gb/s SATA?
>
> Can one use a 6.0 Gb/s SATA disk on a 3.0 Gb/s interface?
>
> Can one use a 3.0 Gb/s SATA disk on a 6.0 Gb/s interface?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift

[Max]

Larry T  wrote:

>Hey Wilton,
>When I put a rebuilt AT in my w124 last year (bought from Rusty,
>rebuilt 
>by SunValley) I was planning to get the installation shop to put Mobil
>1 
>ATF in but asked Sun Valley and they quickly replied that I should use 
>Dexron II.


That's curious, did they give any reason?  I wonder if M1 ATF will extend 
transmission life, or just cost more money.

M1 ATF did wonders for my '87 wagon, I suspect because it was cleaning up 
deposits in the valve body.  Perhaps that is the best use for it, then switch 
back to "regular" ATF once the benefit has been realized.

What other brands of ATF are recommended?  I think Jaime recommended the Febi 
flavor that met MB specifications.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Craig]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:35:21 -0600 Craig  wrote:

> Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?

Another question:

How intercompatible are 3.0 Gb/s SATA and 6.0 Gb/s SATA?

Can one use a 6.0 Gb/s SATA disk on a 3.0 Gb/s interface?

Can one use a 3.0 Gb/s SATA disk on a 6.0 Gb/s interface?

Thanks,


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Craig]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:49:19 -0600 Brian Toscano
 wrote:

> Are you sure its a hardware problem?  I would test the drives before
> condemning them.  Is it something where the drive is going to sleep
> because of inactivity?

I do have one drive that I put to sleep when I'm not using it, but that
one is used only for backing-up. These situations have occurred when I
have been using the computer steadily and then have something balk.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Greg Fiorentino]

I have noted the same problem, and not just with HDs but with MoBos and
power supplies.  With HDs my recent policy is to buy only the top grade.
For WD that would be their black series.  They seem to have better QC than
the blue or green.  Some other brands just seem to be unable to do adequate
QC on their products.

Greg

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On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:35 AM
To: mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

I have been experiencing periodic delays in disk access on our computer and
have been looking at getting a replacement disk to forestall any
difficulties and also to upgrade from CentOS 5.8 to CentOS 6.2 without
taking our computer down for a protracted period of time.

In looking at disk reviews on Newegg, however, I see a lot of brands of
disks (WD, Seagate, Hitachi) with one-egg reviews and the title DOA.

Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Craig]

On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:40:45 -0600 Brian Toscano
 wrote:

> Sometimes those NewEgg drives that come from OEM boxes of 20 are thrown
> in a box with a single sheet of bubble wrap and handed over to UPS to
> throw around some more before they arrive at your doorstep.

The last computer I built, I built with parts from Newegg. After multiple
times of building computers without problem or incident, I never had so
many problems building a computer. I ended up replacing both the memory
and motherboard and I'm still not 100% confident of the computer.

Maybe I should find a vendor other than Newegg.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Brian Toscano]

Are you sure its a hardware problem?  I would test the drives before
condemning them.  Is it something where the drive is going to sleep because
of inactivity?

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

> For desktop/home use... I find it better to purchase drives with 5 year
> warranties than ones with 1-3 year warranties.  I have had multiple Western
> Digital "desktop" drives with 3 year warranties fail over the years
> sometimes, sometimes right after the warranty ended, and sometimes early in
> their life.  Western Digital has/had a warranty warranty replacement where
> they just send you another drive and a label to send the old one back,
> though they do ask for a  credit card in case you don't send the failed
> drive back.
>
> In the server world, when they go in hardware RAID arrays, I've seen
> everyone's drives fail.  That's why you use hot spares and have a service
> contract.
>
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Brian Toscano 
> wrote:
>
>> I think they all make fine drives, but I have only purchased hard drives
>> in retail packages so I know they were shipped properly.  Sometimes those
>> NewEgg drives that come from OEM boxes of 20 are thrown in a box with a
>> single sheet of bubble wrap and handed over to UPS to throw around some
>> more before they arrive at your doorstep.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Craig  wrote:
>>
>>> I have been experiencing periodic delays in disk access on our computer
>>> and have been looking at getting a replacement disk to forestall any
>>> difficulties and also to upgrade from CentOS 5.8 to CentOS 6.2 without
>>> taking our computer down for a protracted period of time.
>>>
>>> In looking at disk reviews on Newegg, however, I see a lot of brands of
>>> disks (WD, Seagate, Hitachi) with one-egg reviews and the title DOA.
>>>
>>> Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Larry T]

Forgot to mention -
go to http://computers.pricegrabber.com 
 and search for Hard drives - you 
will gets lots of drives, retailers and customer reports --


LarryT

On 5/19/2012 12:35 PM, Craig wrote:

I have been experiencing periodic delays in disk access on our computer
and have been looking at getting a replacement disk to forestall any
difficulties and also to upgrade from CentOS 5.8 to CentOS 6.2 without
taking our computer down for a protracted period of time.

In looking at disk reviews on Newegg, however, I see a lot of brands of
disks (WD, Seagate, Hitachi) with one-egg reviews and the title DOA.

Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Brian Toscano]

For desktop/home use... I find it better to purchase drives with 5 year
warranties than ones with 1-3 year warranties.  I have had multiple Western
Digital "desktop" drives with 3 year warranties fail over the years
sometimes, sometimes right after the warranty ended, and sometimes early in
their life.  Western Digital has/had a warranty warranty replacement where
they just send you another drive and a label to send the old one back,
though they do ask for a  credit card in case you don't send the failed
drive back.

In the server world, when they go in hardware RAID arrays, I've seen
everyone's drives fail.  That's why you use hot spares and have a service
contract.


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

> I think they all make fine drives, but I have only purchased hard drives
> in retail packages so I know they were shipped properly.  Sometimes those
> NewEgg drives that come from OEM boxes of 20 are thrown in a box with a
> single sheet of bubble wrap and handed over to UPS to throw around some
> more before they arrive at your doorstep.
>
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Craig  wrote:
>
>> I have been experiencing periodic delays in disk access on our computer
>> and have been looking at getting a replacement disk to forestall any
>> difficulties and also to upgrade from CentOS 5.8 to CentOS 6.2 without
>> taking our computer down for a protracted period of time.
>>
>> In looking at disk reviews on Newegg, however, I see a lot of brands of
>> disks (WD, Seagate, Hitachi) with one-egg reviews and the title DOA.
>>
>> Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?
>>
>>
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Brian Toscano]

I think they all make fine drives, but I have only purchased hard drives in
retail packages so I know they were shipped properly.  Sometimes those
NewEgg drives that come from OEM boxes of 20 are thrown in a box with a
single sheet of bubble wrap and handed over to UPS to throw around some
more before they arrive at your doorstep.


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Craig  wrote:

> I have been experiencing periodic delays in disk access on our computer
> and have been looking at getting a replacement disk to forestall any
> difficulties and also to upgrade from CentOS 5.8 to CentOS 6.2 without
> taking our computer down for a protracted period of time.
>
> In looking at disk reviews on Newegg, however, I see a lot of brands of
> disks (WD, Seagate, Hitachi) with one-egg reviews and the title DOA.
>
> Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE -$2000 ynu3ama9

[WILTON]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST 
CHANCE -$2000 ynu3ama9



I believe the term "borked" came about after what Teddy K did to the 
Supreme Court candidate Robert Bork in the hearings on his nomination.


--R

On 5/19/12 10:28 AM, WILTON wrote:
'Never used nor heard of either one of 'em until few days ago on this 
list; oh, what enlightenment we gain from this list!  Oh, 'still don't 
plan to use 'em.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST 
CHANCE -$2000 ynu3ama9



Ha. Funny thing is I learned the term from a buddy in medical school. I 
use it like borked.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2012, at 11:41 PM, "Gerry Archer"  
wrote:



Wow!

Urban Dictionary:  Gimped

(1) a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial 
problem that results in physical impairment.


(2) An insult implying that someone is incompetent, stupid, etc. Can 
also be used to imply that the person is uncool or can't/won't do what 
everyone else is doing.


(3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the 
movie Pulp Fiction


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp
~

From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 
I like to use "gimped":)

On May 18, 2012, at 10:48 PM, "Gerry Archer"  
wrote:


Urban Dictionary: borked
To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something stupid. 
Specifically used to describe technology that is broken.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked

From: 
Borked? Or Broked?

From: Dan Penoff 
No engine, or the engine in the car is borked?
Dan

This actually could be a nice car for cheap
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html
--R


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Re: [MBZ] 124 harsh shift

[Larry T]

Hey Wilton,
When I put a rebuilt AT in my w124 last year (bought from Rusty, rebuilt 
by SunValley) I was planning to get the installation shop to put Mobil 1 
ATF in but asked Sun Valley and they quickly replied that I should use 
Dexron II.So that it is.   Also, Sun valley requires a 24k mile ATF 
change interval to maintain the warranty.


BTW, 8 years is a little long for the ATF... :-)

LarryT
91 300D

On 5/18/2012 7:41 PM, WILTON wrote:

My '87 300D (126 kmi) began shifting slightly harshly today; not nearly 
neck-jerking but certainly noticeably more so than ever before.  Suggestions?  
'Didn't get chance to check fluid level today; 'plan to tomorrow.  Fluid and 
filter change?
BTW, 'don't know what's in it; whatever was in it when I got it 8 years ago; 
'doubt it's M1.

Wilton
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[MBZ] OT: Computer Hard Disks

[Craig]

I have been experiencing periodic delays in disk access on our computer
and have been looking at getting a replacement disk to forestall any
difficulties and also to upgrade from CentOS 5.8 to CentOS 6.2 without
taking our computer down for a protracted period of time.

In looking at disk reviews on Newegg, however, I see a lot of brands of
disks (WD, Seagate, Hitachi) with one-egg reviews and the title DOA.

Is there anyone who makes a decent disk these days?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE - $2000 ynu3ama9

[Dan Penoff]

I dated a girl in high school whose brother was a pathologist.  He had lots of 
little "terms" doctors used between themselves.

My personal favorite was "goober", which was doctor slang for "tumor".

Dan


On May 19, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

> 
> 
> On May 18, 2012, at 11:41 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wow!
> 
> Urban Dictionary:  Gimped
> 
> (1) a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem 
> that results in physical impairment.
> 
> (2) An insult implying that someone is incompetent, stupid, etc. Can also be 
> used to imply that the person is uncool or can't/won't do what everyone else 
> is doing.
> 
> (3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the movie 
> Pulp Fiction
> 
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp
> ~
> 
> From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 
> I like to use "gimped":)
> 
> On May 18, 2012, at 10:48 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:
> 
> Urban Dictionary: borked
> To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something stupid. 
> Specifically used to describe technology that is broken.
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked
> 
> From: 
> Borked? Or Broked?
> 
> From: Dan Penoff 
> No engine, or the engine in the car is borked?
> Dan
> 
> This actually could be a nice car for cheap
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html
> --R
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1979 Mercede Benz 280 CE - $2500

[andrew strasfogel]

Those are such BORING cars, with their 6 yl. gas engines...

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> Now, if it were only a diesel!
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> On 18/05/2012 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>>
>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2997703641.html
>>
>> In 1979, they were made in Germany
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Don't be stealin' no gator! ynu3ama9

[Rich Thomas]

I would guess that anyone caught stealing gators in weezianna might end 
up as gator bait out in the bayou, and would thus save the citizens the 
trouble of a trial, etc.  Them coonasses know how to take care of problems.


--R

On 5/18/12 11:22 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

For your weekend entertainment:




In Looseyanna  'Specially one worth $501!   (sorry Russ, just couldn't 
help it)





Full text of the Law
RS 14:67.13
67.13. Theft of an alligator

A. Theft of an alligator is the misappropriation or taking of an 
alligator, an alligator's skin, or a part of an alligator, whether 
dead or alive, belonging to another, either without the consent of the 
other to the misappropriation or taking, or by means of fraudulent 
conduct, practices, or representations. An intent to deprive the other 
permanently of the alligator, the alligator's skin, or a part of an 
alligator is essential.
B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of theft of an alligator when the 
misappropration or taking amounts to a value of five hundred dollars 
or more shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more 
than ten years, or may be fined not more than three thousand dollars, 
or both.
(2) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to a value of one 
hundred dollars or more, but less than a value of five hundred 
dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, 
for not more than two years, or may be fined not more than two 
thousand dollars, or both.
(3) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to less than a value 
of one hundred dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned for not more 
than six months, or may be fined not more than five hundred dollars, 
or both. If the offender in such cases has been convicted of theft of 
an alligator two or more times previously, upon any subsequent 
conviction he shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not 
more than two years, or may be fined not more than one thousand 
dollars, or both.

Acts 1992, No. 410, 1.
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Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE -$2000 ynu3ama9

[Rich Thomas]

I believe the term "borked" came about after what Teddy K did to the 
Supreme Court candidate Robert Bork in the hearings on his nomination.


--R

On 5/19/12 10:28 AM, WILTON wrote:
'Never used nor heard of either one of 'em until few days ago on this 
list; oh, what enlightenment we gain from this list!  Oh, 'still don't 
plan to use 'em.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST 
CHANCE -$2000 ynu3ama9



Ha. Funny thing is I learned the term from a buddy in medical school. 
I use it like borked.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2012, at 11:41 PM, "Gerry Archer" 
 wrote:



Wow!

Urban Dictionary:  Gimped

(1) a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial 
problem that results in physical impairment.


(2) An insult implying that someone is incompetent, stupid, etc. Can 
also be used to imply that the person is uncool or can't/won't do 
what everyone else is doing.


(3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the 
movie Pulp Fiction


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp
~

From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 
I like to use "gimped":)

On May 18, 2012, at 10:48 PM, "Gerry Archer" 
 wrote:


Urban Dictionary: borked
To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something 
stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked

From: 
Borked? Or Broked?

From: Dan Penoff 
No engine, or the engine in the car is borked?
Dan

This actually could be a nice car for cheap
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html
--R


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Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST CHANCE -$2000 ynu3ama9

[WILTON]

'Never used nor heard of either one of 'em until few days ago on this list; 
oh, what enlightenment we gain from this list!  Oh, 'still don't plan to use 
'em.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borked/Gimped. was: Mercedes Benz 1972 220 LAST 
CHANCE -$2000 ynu3ama9



Ha. Funny thing is I learned the term from a buddy in medical school. I 
use it like borked.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2012, at 11:41 PM, "Gerry Archer"  
wrote:



Wow!

Urban Dictionary:  Gimped

(1) a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial 
problem that results in physical impairment.


(2) An insult implying that someone is incompetent, stupid, etc. Can also 
be used to imply that the person is uncool or can't/won't do what everyone 
else is doing.


(3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the movie 
Pulp Fiction


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp
~

From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 
I like to use "gimped":)

On May 18, 2012, at 10:48 PM, "Gerry Archer"  
wrote:


Urban Dictionary: borked
To have totally f*cked something up. Usually by doing something stupid. 
Specifically used to describe technology that is broken.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borked

From: 
Borked? Or Broked?

From: Dan Penoff 
No engine, or the engine in the car is borked?
Dan

This actually could be a nice car for cheap
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2969096519.html
--R


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Re: [MBZ] Old and very expensive horse carriage

[Rolf]

This is not a 1886 Daimler. I am very interested however in figuring out 
what it is. I spent a good time looking at pics from the era. It could 
be completely frankensteined but I am fairly certain its not an 1886.


-Rolf

On 5/17/2012 7:26 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:
http://www.prewarcar.com/index.php?option=com_caradvert&view=ad§ion_id=1&id=67029&Itemid=432 


Ohh Lord won't you buy me a Daimler, my friends all ride horses.

Hendrik
who thought the asking price was 40k euros but then looked again

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