Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Thanks! Sounds like a dirty job! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Fmiser wrote: Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Knowing that you have recently performed this task, could you perhaps guide me through it? Remove as much fuel as possible. The strainer is at the very bottom and any left in the tank will run out onto the ground - or you. Find the bottom of the fuel tank. Remove the hose from the hard line going forward. Have a container to catch some of the fuel you left in the tank. If the screen is plugged, not all will come out the hose. Unscrew the fuel strainer. It is a very large hex. Water pump pliers (channelocks) can work well. Let the rest of the fuel in the tank run down your arm, soak your shirt, and puddle under your back. Put the new one in. Be sure the rubber seal is in place. Tighten. Attach the hose to the hard line. Set up a tent in the back yard 'cause you won't be allowed back in the house until you don't smell like raw diesel anymore. Plan on a couple days. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Fmiser writes: Unscrew the fuel strainer. It is a very large hex. Water pump pliers (channelocks) can work well. As I recall when I did this on a W110 gas tank, my spark plug wrench fit this almost perfectly (won't work if your plug wrench is round on the outside, obviously). -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD BZZT we are talking about a 123. the older cars had a allen (internal) hex. The 123. 124 and 126 have an EXTERNAL hex. As I recall, the wrench size translates to 1 5/8 or something like that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, it may be exaggerated a bit, but it is pretty much the way it works. ROFLMAO!!! This is hilarious; a keeper. Gerry Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Knowing that you have recently performed this task, could you perhaps guide me through it? .. Remove as much fuel as possible. The strainer is at the very bottom and any left in the tank will run out onto the ground - or you. Find the bottom of the fuel tank. Remove the hose from the hard line going forward. Have a container to catch some of the fuel you left in the tank. If the screen is plugged, not all will come out the hose. Unscrew the fuel strainer. It is a very large hex. Water pump pliers (channelocks) can work well. Let the rest of the fuel in the tank run down your arm, soak your shirt, and puddle under your back. Put the new one in. Be sure the rubber seal is in place. Tighten. Attach the hose to the hard line. Set up a tent in the back yard 'cause you won't be allowed back in the house until you don't smell like raw diesel anymore. Plan on a couple days. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Fmiser writes: > Unscrew the fuel strainer. It is a very large hex. Water pump > pliers (channelocks) can work well. As I recall when I did this on a W110 gas tank, my spark plug wrench fit this almost perfectly (won't work if your plug wrench is round on the outside, obviously). -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The Joy of Mercedes Repairs
ROFLMAO!!! This is hilarious; a keeper. Gerry Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Knowing that you have recently performed this task, could you perhaps guide me through it? .. Remove as much fuel as possible. The strainer is at the very bottom and any left in the tank will run out onto the ground - or you. Find the bottom of the fuel tank. Remove the hose from the hard line going forward. Have a container to catch some of the fuel you left in the tank. If the screen is plugged, not all will come out the hose. Unscrew the fuel strainer. It is a very large hex. Water pump pliers (channelocks) can work well. Let the rest of the fuel in the tank run down your arm, soak your shirt, and puddle under your back. Put the new one in. Be sure the rubber seal is in place. Tighten. Attach the hose to the hard line. Set up a tent in the back yard 'cause you won't be allowed back in the house until you don't smell like raw diesel anymore. Plan on a couple days. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
2nd gear. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Fmiser wrote: >> Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >> The missing happens only at idle speed. There is a mild >> shuddering that happens upon acceleration up to about 40 mph. > > 40 MPH in what gear? Road speed is meaningless. RPM is what > matters. > > -- Philip > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
2nd gear. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Fmiser wrote: >> Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >> The missing happens only at idle speed. There is a mild >> shuddering that happens upon acceleration up to about 40 mph. > > 40 MPH in what gear? Road speed is meaningless. RPM is what > matters. > > -- Philip > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
> Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Knowing that you have recently performed this task, could you > perhaps guide me through it? Remove as much fuel as possible. The strainer is at the very bottom and any left in the tank will run out onto the ground - or you. Find the bottom of the fuel tank. Remove the hose from the hard line going forward. Have a container to catch some of the fuel you left in the tank. If the screen is plugged, not all will come out the hose. Unscrew the fuel strainer. It is a very large hex. Water pump pliers (channelocks) can work well. Let the rest of the fuel in the tank run down your arm, soak your shirt, and puddle under your back. Put the new one in. Be sure the rubber seal is in place. Tighten. Attach the hose to the hard line. Set up a tent in the back yard 'cause you won't be allowed back in the house until you don't smell like raw diesel anymore. Plan on a couple days. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
> Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > The missing happens only at idle speed. There is a mild > shuddering that happens upon acceleration up to about 40 mph. 40 MPH in what gear? Road speed is meaningless. RPM is what matters. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethelred is now Ready
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Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
every hose is suspect, including the patch, and now all the steel line since you had rust. Hardest to find one I had was under one of the clamps. Line looked ok, but I could not find the leak. Finally took off the clamps, and found rust under one clamp. Cut out a piece and patched with brake line and compression fittings. problem solved. It was only leaking air in. No fuel out. Today I ordered four glow plugs and a primer pump from Rusty. While I wait for those I'll look for fuel line leaks under my car. This reminds me that a steel fuel line sprang a leak a couple of years ago. I cut out a section and spliced in some fuel hose. I wonder if this isn't a potential source. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I concur with this 100%, also if you temp doesn't come right up to 85-95C then a new thermostat would be called for. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:51:37 -0500 From: Max Dillon To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 No. This could be your current problem (leaking primer pump). I'd replace that and the glow plugs (don't forget to ream the glow plug holes, flattened glow plug would do the trick) and if the idle quality gets better, drive on and don't worry about the compression. All these problems may have carboned the rings and pre-chambers and valve seats, and now you need to burn that off to get a valid compression test. A dose of diesel purge might also be called for. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Below the injector lines, are the delivery valve unions serrated? or are they hex? Serrated have orings. Hex do not. (in my experience, limited to 80, 81 and 83 616 engines.) So I hear conflicting opinions about delivery valve seals. Some say not to change them if there is no apparent leak at the IP below the fitting. In my case there is no leak. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:02 PM, OK Don wrote: Yes - I forgot about delivery valve seals - those would cause poor idling. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:32 PM, clay monroe wrote: In neither Gump nor the 95 E300D have leaking delivery valves had an effect on starting. The primer pump did issue with getting fuel to the IP in Gump. The leakage was really obvious though, so there was no real mystery about there being a leak. clay On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:14 PM, OK Don wrote: In my experience, air leaks cause hard starting, but no effects at all once running. On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Would I see air bubbles anywhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig > wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Yes, now I understand:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Nope, it keeps the rings from doing their job properly... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:51:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test Message-ID: <1347393109.95241.yext-apple-iph...@web125104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So wouldn't a carboned up cylinder increase compression? I'm using M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm gonna guess that #3 glowplug hasn't worked in some time and that cylinder is now all carboned up. I'd further guess that if you replace all the GPs, switch to Mobil 1 if you aren't already using it and blast on a 3 hour 80MPH drive (grab 95 and head north) your problem will get better. Oh and replace that primer pump, anywhere fuel can get out air can get in... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Nope, it keeps the rings from doing their job properly... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:51:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test Message-ID: <1347393109.95241.yext-apple-iph...@web125104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So wouldn't a carboned up cylinder increase compression? I'm using M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm gonna guess that #3 glowplug hasn't worked in some time and that cylinder is now all carboned up. I'd further guess that if you replace all the GPs, switch to Mobil 1 if you aren't already using it and blast on a 3 hour 80MPH drive (grab 95 and head north) your problem will get better. Oh and replace that primer pump, anywhere fuel can get out air can get in... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethelred is now Ready
Oh lord, won't you buy my Mercedes Benz :) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:59 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Oh lord. Glad you sold it! On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Ethelred?? Wazzat? Ethelred the Unready, our 380SL-no-more. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SL2.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Knowing that you have recently performed this task, could you perhaps guide me through it? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: You haven't checked the tank screen yet? If not, do it ASAP! On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Would I see air bubbles anywhere? Inside the injection pump. According to His Wisdom August Marshall Booth, if fuel leaks out under pumping pressure, air leaks in while the engine is running. If that #3 glow plug felt physically different, I'd replace it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Today I ordered four glow plugs and a primer pump from Rusty. While I wait for those I'll look for fuel line leaks under my car. This reminds me that a steel fuel line sprang a leak a couple of years ago. I cut out a section and spliced in some fuel hose. I wonder if this isn't a potential source. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I concur with this 100%, also if you temp doesn't come right up to 85-95C then a new thermostat would be called for. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:51:37 -0500 From: Max Dillon To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 No. This could be your current problem (leaking primer pump). I'd replace that and the glow plugs (don't forget to ream the glow plug holes, flattened glow plug would do the trick) and if the idle quality gets better, drive on and don't worry about the compression. All these problems may have carboned the rings and pre-chambers and valve seats, and now you need to burn that off to get a valid compression test. A dose of diesel purge might also be called for. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
So I hear conflicting opinions about delivery valve seals. Some say not to change them if there is no apparent leak at the IP below the fitting. In my case there is no leak. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:02 PM, OK Don wrote: Yes - I forgot about delivery valve seals - those would cause poor idling. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:32 PM, clay monroe wrote: In neither Gump nor the 95 E300D have leaking delivery valves had an effect on starting. The primer pump did issue with getting fuel to the IP in Gump. The leakage was really obvious though, so there was no real mystery about there being a leak. clay On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:14 PM, OK Don wrote: In my experience, air leaks cause hard starting, but no effects at all once running. On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Would I see air bubbles anywhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig > wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
The missing happens only at idle speed. There is a mild shuddering that happens upon acceleration up to about 40 mph. The car runs beautifully on the highway. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: In many cases, NO. sometimes you can see bubbles in the prefilter if the leak is ahead of it. Best low cost cure/check is to start with a near empty tank, and replace ALL the hoses, starting at the tank. also get the oring and check/clean the tank strainer. ANY fabric covered hoses are suspect, as these are notorious for leaking air in but no fuel out. Any wet fabric denotes a bad hose. While you are there, replace the return line hoses from the injectors, unless you did that within the past 6-12 months. is the missing worst at idle or high speed? Checking/replacing the hoses and adjusting the valves should have been the first steps. I have had the transfer pump cause hard starting and rough running at all speeds. If it leaks, put on a new one. Would I see air bubbles anywhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Yes - I forgot about delivery valve seals - those would cause poor idling. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:32 PM, clay monroe wrote: > In neither Gump nor the 95 E300D have leaking delivery valves had an > effect on starting. The primer pump did issue with getting fuel to the IP > in Gump. The leakage was really obvious though, so there was no real > mystery about there being a leak. > > clay > > > On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:14 PM, OK Don wrote: > > > In my experience, air leaks cause hard starting, but no effects at all > once > > running. > > > > On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > > >> Would I see air bubbles anywhere? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig > > >> wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis > >> > wrote: > >> > >> Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid > >> when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in > >> stumbling and stalling? > >> > >> The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. > >> > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > 2001 ML320 > > 2012 Passat TDI DSG > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
AIr leaks can indeed cause problems, not only at starting, but also at idle (the primer pump in particular) and at high RPM under load. You have lead a charmed life Don. A couple years ago i chased air leaks all over my 300D. In the end, I had changed every fuel hose twice, except at the tank. Now it is fine. In my experience, air leaks cause hard starting, but no effects at all once running. On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Would I see air bubbles anywhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig > wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. > Craig > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Apples, Oranges... Gump has only copper seals. A leaking copper seal may or may not have an effect on starting. on the 95, there are copper seals and orings. Most leaks on these are orings. Leaking orings don't affect starting. Leaking copper seals may or may not affect starting. In neither Gump nor the 95 E300D have leaking delivery valves had an effect on starting. The primer pump did issue with getting fuel to the IP in Gump. The leakage was really obvious though, so there was no real mystery about there being a leak. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Maybe, but this is only one test. I say not so fast. it seems there are possible air leaks and we still don't know if the missing is low speed, high speed or all speeds. High speed missing is a fuel problem almost all the time. air, algae, plugged screens/filters are all still possibilities. Early on, I thought we were talking about missing at idle. that is way different than missing at high RPM under load. After the fuel lines, filters and screen are all known good (new or checked) then maybe try a hot/warm compression test. Compression tests are highly variable. I'd like to see repeatable results (at least 3) preferably with periods of driving (with italian tuneups) in between compression tests. A piece of carbon under a valve can alter the compression test. looks like the engine wants a rebuild. Compression is all over the place. My understanding is that you want them within 50psi top to least. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as follows: #1- 390 psi #2- 440 psi #3- 360 psi > #4- 460 psi > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
> Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > So wouldn't a carboned up cylinder increase compression? > I'm using M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck. No. Because the carbon interferes with the rings moving and allowing them to make a seal. Technically, the presence of the carbon will decrease the volume of the chamber and so raise compression. But in the real world the ring fail to seal before the volume is decreased enough. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
I concur with this 100%, also if you temp doesn't come right up to 85-95C then a new thermostat would be called for. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:51:37 -0500 From: Max Dillon To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 No. This could be your current problem (leaking primer pump). I'd replace that and the glow plugs (don't forget to ream the glow plug holes, flattened glow plug would do the trick) and if the idle quality gets better, drive on and don't worry about the compression. All these problems may have carboned the rings and pre-chambers and valve seats, and now you need to burn that off to get a valid compression test. A dose of diesel purge might also be called for. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
In many cases, NO. sometimes you can see bubbles in the prefilter if the leak is ahead of it. Best low cost cure/check is to start with a near empty tank, and replace ALL the hoses, starting at the tank. also get the oring and check/clean the tank strainer. ANY fabric covered hoses are suspect, as these are notorious for leaking air in but no fuel out. Any wet fabric denotes a bad hose. While you are there, replace the return line hoses from the injectors, unless you did that within the past 6-12 months. is the missing worst at idle or high speed? Checking/replacing the hoses and adjusting the valves should have been the first steps. I have had the transfer pump cause hard starting and rough running at all speeds. If it leaks, put on a new one. Would I see air bubbles anywhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
> Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as > follows: > #1- 390 psi > #2- 440 psi > #3- 360 psi > #4- 460 psi Not great, but not terrible. That was cold, right? > I'm a bit concerned about #3. That being said, I tend to doubt > that outright stalling would be due to a compression issue. Agreed. > Any thoughts? Could my tank strainer cause the stumbling and > stalling? Yes. More likely to cause trouble at high fuel volume, but it could be an issue at idle. > If it's an air leak how could I trace it- would I > see air bubbles in the clear fuel lines? Probably not visible. Look for fuel leaks. If fuel is getting out, air can get in. > Could the pump plunger thing- can't > remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be > creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and > stalling? Yes! The primer pump is a prime suspect. Again, if fuel gets out, air can get in. Replace it. 000-090-88-50 Probably about $25. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
So wouldn't a carboned up cylinder increase compression? I'm using M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm gonna guess that #3 glowplug hasn't worked in some time and that cylinder is now all carboned up. I'd further guess that if you replace all the GPs, switch to Mobil 1 if you aren't already using it and blast on a 3 hour 80MPH drive (grab 95 and head north) your problem will get better. Oh and replace that primer pump, anywhere fuel can get out air can get in... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test Message-ID: <1347373204.9028.yext-apple-iph...@web125102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as follows: #1- 390 psi #2- 440 psi #3- 360 psi #4- 460 psi I'm a bit concerned about #3. That being said, I tend to doubt that outright stalling would be due to a compression issue. Any thoughts? Could my tank strainer cause the stumbling and stalling? If it's an air leak how could I trace it- would I see air bubbles in the clear fuel lines? A cursory check hasn't revealed that. Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Well, I wouldn't have done anything like that to The Colonel, my commander at the time, but I certainly laid some kicking on is bedposts. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes I have a vague recollection of a story similar to that where the non-snorer woke the other fellow and made some suggestive comment about being gay. Solved the problem because the snorer was then afraid to go back to sleep. Randy On 10/09/2012 7:35 PM, WILTON wrote: While in Greenland in '78 Col. Base Commander and I flew with Danish Air Force crew on their C-130H into the far-south Greenland air field/village of Narsassuaq. Checking into the hotel there, I was shocked by price of the lodging and obviously showed it. Colonel eased up beside me and whispered in my ear, "Wilt, I'll 'let' you share a room with me if you'll promise me you don't snore." I replied, "Indeed, I don't." That night, with each of us snug in our twin beds, the room began to shake and shudder as he got into some absolutely first class, gold medal, champion snoring. I was up and down all night kicking his bed post to try to make him stop for a few minutes so I could doze off for a bit - very little sleep that night for me. Next morning, I said to 'im, "Damn/doggone your time, please don't ever 'let' me share a room with you again." He grinned and said, "What? Did I snore? I don't snore, do I?" Wilton - Original Message - From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed industry. Of course, serious snorers sometimes have to move into the guest room. Once shared a hotel room with a friend. Never before or since have I heard anything like his snoring. Since sleep was no option, even after blocking it with four pillows, I turned on a tape recorder with the idea of playing it for him later. When played the next morning, the transistors had continuously peaked producing nothing but a steady roar. How his wife stood it I'll never know. Gerry On 10/09/2012 4:50 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens The thing that I really find truly amazing is that I don't hear it. I have sort of woken up and realized I was snoring but when truly sleeping one does not know one is snoring. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
I've been trying to train 'im. 'Coming along very nicely, eh?. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes On 10/09/2012 7:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy Glad to see that y'all Southern Canadians speak correspondingly with Southerners in the US of A! Just trying to make sure y'all understand. Randy who was exposed to that sort of language by some folks with a cottage out on Lake of the Woods who hailed from Memphis ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
In neither Gump nor the 95 E300D have leaking delivery valves had an effect on starting. The primer pump did issue with getting fuel to the IP in Gump. The leakage was really obvious though, so there was no real mystery about there being a leak. clay On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:14 PM, OK Don wrote: > In my experience, air leaks cause hard starting, but no effects at all once > running. > > On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >> Would I see air bubbles anywhere? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig > >> wrote: >> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis >> > wrote: >> >> Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid >> when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in >> stumbling and stalling? >> >> The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 2012 Passat TDI DSG > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
New GP, cleaned up injectors, M1 and diesel purge to work on the carbon then run it like it was stolen if it begins running better clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I'm gonna guess that #3 glowplug hasn't worked in some time and that cylinder > is now all carboned up. > > I'd further guess that if you replace all the GPs, switch to Mobil 1 if you > aren't already using it and blast on a 3 hour 80MPH drive (grab 95 and head > north) your problem will get better. > > Oh and replace that primer pump, anywhere fuel can get out air can get in... > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Dimitri Seretakis > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test > Message-ID: ><1347373204.9028.yext-apple-iph...@web125102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as follows: > #1- 390 psi > #2- 440 psi > #3- 360 psi > #4- 460 psi > > I'm a bit concerned about #3. That being said, I tend to doubt that outright > stalling would be due to a compression issue. Any thoughts? > Could my tank strainer cause the stumbling and stalling? > If it's an air leak how could I trace it- would I see air bubbles in the > clear fuel lines? A cursory check hasn't revealed that. > Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I > pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling > and stalling? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
In my experience, air leaks cause hard starting, but no effects at all once running. On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Would I see air bubbles anywhere? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig > > wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis > > wrote: > > Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid > when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in > stumbling and stalling? > > The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Arduino CAN-BUS OBD Gas Gauge
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > You can get an Arduino clone for ~$20-30 depending on which one, and the > other bits if you have to order them would be fairly minimal. the main thing > seems to be he had a board made for it, but you could certainly bodge that > up. The point of this is that you can make things like this, with minimal > parts, to do lots of things you might like to do. I was thinking that to > put the electronics under the dash somewhere, run a little display to your > dash and mount it somewhere, on (they are thin) or in a blank space. He > mounted his display right on the board but you don't need to do that. You can buy a scangauge for $80ish to do this in a pre-fabbed, supported way, if you are lazy. A lot of Escape Hybrid owners who did not have the navigation system used these very happily, with some interesting mounting solutions. Or, you can buy a Bluetooth OBD2+CAN adapter from Amazon for $25, buy Torque Pro for $4.99, get an old Android phone out of someone's scrap pile ($20-40 on CL) and a car power plug, and you have realtime color graphs, charts, digital and analog sensors, logging, audio/video logging, GPS tracking, cached maps, etc. And you don't have any extra cables dangling around your legs. That said, I still haven't found the CANBUS plug on my '77, so I have to rely on those little orange bars to tell me how much fuel I have and how fast I am going. :) Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
No. This could be your current problem (leaking primer pump). I'd replace that and the glow plugs (don't forget to ream the glow plug holes, flattened glow plug would do the trick) and if the idle quality gets better, drive on and don't worry about the compression. All these problems may have carboned the rings and pre-chambers and valve seats, and now you need to burn that off to get a valid compression test. A dose of diesel purge might also be called for. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >Would I see air bubbles anywhere? > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig wrote: > >On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: > >Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid >when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in >stumbling and stalling? > >The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. > > >Craig > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flea bay idiot of the week
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: > That's the extended version of the SL A few days ago this was in my RSS feed: --- 1980 Mercedes TD SL (Raleigh,NC) $1995 from Benz Raleigh 1980 Mercedes. 213K Mechanically sound . Turbo Diesel. Sunroof. Interior fair.Exterior needs some cleanup and TLC, but solid. A/C not working. Tires in good condition. A true classic. Hard to beat for just $1995.00 Call 919-576-5095 for more informat [...] --- In another search I saw the title changed to "1980 Mercedes SL Turbo Diesel", so that answers one of the questions. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
> Rich Thomas wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster Oiy! I guess the saying "slow as molasses in January" is misplaced... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Arduino CAN-BUS OBD Gas Gauge
You can get an Arduino clone for ~$20-30 depending on which one, and the other bits if you have to order them would be fairly minimal. the main thing seems to be he had a board made for it, but you could certainly bodge that up. The point of this is that you can make things like this, with minimal parts, to do lots of things you might like to do. I was thinking that to put the electronics under the dash somewhere, run a little display to your dash and mount it somewhere, on (they are thin) or in a blank space. He mounted his display right on the board but you don't need to do that. --R On 9/11/12 11:59 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.openhardwarehub.com/projects/40-Arduino-CAN-BUS-OBD-Gas-Gauge There is a lot of other things you can do like this too once you get at the OBD data Any idea what the parts cost? My Scan-Guage was about $150, but I got a plug and play system that displays four data items at a time. If I could build one in a day for $20-30 I'd be interested. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
I'm gonna guess that #3 glowplug hasn't worked in some time and that cylinder is now all carboned up. I'd further guess that if you replace all the GPs, switch to Mobil 1 if you aren't already using it and blast on a 3 hour 80MPH drive (grab 95 and head north) your problem will get better. Oh and replace that primer pump, anywhere fuel can get out air can get in... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test Message-ID: <1347373204.9028.yext-apple-iph...@web125102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as follows: #1- 390 psi #2- 440 psi #3- 360 psi #4- 460 psi I'm a bit concerned about #3. That being said, I tend to doubt that outright stalling would be due to a compression issue. Any thoughts? Could my tank strainer cause the stumbling and stalling? If it's an air leak how could I trace it- would I see air bubbles in the clear fuel lines? A cursory check hasn't revealed that. Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
Ira was great, it was just him on a black stage with his iPad for musical accompaniment. He spoke for about 2 hours and then took questions for another half hour or so. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:13:13 -0400 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm jealous. Tried to get our local art house theater to book the Mike Birbiglia film that he and Ira did. No luck so far. I got to meet the cast of "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" last year in Sarasota. I even got to shake Karl Cassell's hand! Dan NPR nerd On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I think its a local choice of what shows to broadcast, its still on Maine > Public Broadcasting, 4:30pm on Saturday. > > As an aside we've got tickets to see the Red Green Wit and Wisdom tour on the > 30th of October in Keene, NH. To show what NPR afficianados we are we saw Ira > Glass there in the spring. > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
I have a vague recollection of a story similar to that where the non-snorer woke the other fellow and made some suggestive comment about being gay. Solved the problem because the snorer was then afraid to go back to sleep. Randy On 10/09/2012 7:35 PM, WILTON wrote: While in Greenland in '78 Col. Base Commander and I flew with Danish Air Force crew on their C-130H into the far-south Greenland air field/village of Narsassuaq. Checking into the hotel there, I was shocked by price of the lodging and obviously showed it. Colonel eased up beside me and whispered in my ear, "Wilt, I'll 'let' you share a room with me if you'll promise me you don't snore." I replied, "Indeed, I don't." That night, with each of us snug in our twin beds, the room began to shake and shudder as he got into some absolutely first class, gold medal, champion snoring. I was up and down all night kicking his bed post to try to make him stop for a few minutes so I could doze off for a bit - very little sleep that night for me. Next morning, I said to 'im, "Damn/doggone your time, please don't ever 'let' me share a room with you again." He grinned and said, "What? Did I snore? I don't snore, do I?" Wilton - Original Message - From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed industry. Of course, serious snorers sometimes have to move into the guest room. Once shared a hotel room with a friend. Never before or since have I heard anything like his snoring. Since sleep was no option, even after blocking it with four pillows, I turned on a tape recorder with the idea of playing it for him later. When played the next morning, the transistors had continuously peaked producing nothing but a steady roar. How his wife stood it I'll never know. Gerry On 10/09/2012 4:50 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens The thing that I really find truly amazing is that I don't hear it. I have sort of woken up and realized I was snoring but when truly sleeping one does not know one is snoring. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
looks like the engine wants a rebuild. Compression is all over the place. My understanding is that you want them within 50psi top to least. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as follows: > #1- 390 psi > #2- 440 psi > #3- 360 psi > #4- 460 psi > > I'm a bit concerned about #3. That being said, I tend to doubt that outright > stalling would be due to a compression issue. Any thoughts? > Could my tank strainer cause the stumbling and stalling? > If it's an air leak how could I trace it- would I see air bubbles in the > clear fuel lines? A cursory check hasn't revealed that. > Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I > pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling > and stalling? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > So I mispoke- it was the number three plug but that doesn't matter. The tip > of the plug looked fine. The engine is now stone cold. I understand a > compression test should be done on a warm engine. Should it really make a > significant difference? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Jim Cathey wrote: > Also the center of the number two gp seems to be wobbly and loose > within the gp body. Do I need to replace this plug? > Absolutely. > > I bet I know why the car runs rough. > We'll know for sure after he gets the #2 plug out. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
You haven't checked the tank screen yet? If not, do it ASAP! On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >> >> Would I see air bubbles anywhere? > > > Inside the injection pump. > > According to His Wisdom August Marshall Booth, if fuel leaks out under > pumping pressure, air leaks in while the engine is running. > > > If that #3 glow plug felt physically different, I'd replace it. > > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
On 10/09/2012 7:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy Glad to see that y'all Southern Canadians speak correspondingly with Southerners in the US of A! Just trying to make sure y'all understand. Randy who was exposed to that sort of language by some folks with a cottage out on Lake of the Woods who hailed from Memphis ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Arduino CAN-BUS OBD Gas Gauge
Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.openhardwarehub.com/projects/40-Arduino-CAN-BUS-OBD-Gas-Gauge There is a lot of other things you can do like this too once you get at the OBD data Any idea what the parts cost? My Scan-Guage was about $150, but I got a plug and play system that displays four data items at a time. If I could build one in a day for $20-30 I'd be interested. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] frustrating - tach & AC stopping again
Must be the EGR computer, behind a panel insider the passenger side front footwell. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Before you buy _anything_ make sure the signals _to_ the Klima > are still there! > > -- Jim > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was 190D brakes Now Marriage
Get a CPAP machine. They work wonders. :) On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:36 PM, WILTON wrote: > Uh oh! > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was 190D brakes Now Marriage > > > >> >> Oh, I forgot to mention, she snores too but won't admit it. >> >> Randy >> >> On 10/09/2012 3:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: >>> >>> Nice. Congrats. Toni and I just celebrated 11 years together the 30th >>> of >>> Aug. >>> >>> How she has put up with me for this long I will probably never know >>> >>> Mike >>> On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: >>> We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: <7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton _ >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Would I see air bubbles anywhere? Inside the injection pump. According to His Wisdom August Marshall Booth, if fuel leaks out under pumping pressure, air leaks in while the engine is running. If that #3 glow plug felt physically different, I'd replace it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethelred is now Ready
Oh lord. Glad you sold it! On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> Ethelred?? Wazzat? > > > Ethelred the Unready, our 380SL-no-more. See: > > http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SL2.html > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Arduino CAN-BUS OBD Gas Gauge
http://www.openhardwarehub.com/projects/40-Arduino-CAN-BUS-OBD-Gas-Gauge There is a lot of other things you can do like this too once you get at the OBD data --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
Would I see air bubbles anywhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid > when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in > stumbling and stalling? The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as follows: #1- 390 psi #2- 440 psi #3- 360 psi #4- 460 psi I'm a bit concerned about #3. That being said, I tend to doubt that outright stalling would be due to a compression issue. Any thoughts? Could my tank strainer cause the stumbling and stalling? If it's an air leak how could I trace it- would I see air bubbles in the clear fuel lines? A cursory check hasn't revealed that. Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling and stalling? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: So I mispoke- it was the number three plug but that doesn't matter. The tip of the plug looked fine. The engine is now stone cold. I understand a compression test should be done on a warm engine. Should it really make a significant difference? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Also the center of the number two gp seems to be wobbly and loose within the gp body. Do I need to replace this plug? Absolutely. I bet I know why the car runs rough. We'll know for sure after he gets the #2 plug out. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
I'm jealous. Tried to get our local art house theater to book the Mike Birbiglia film that he and Ira did. No luck so far. I got to meet the cast of "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" last year in Sarasota. I even got to shake Karl Cassell's hand! Dan NPR nerd On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I think its a local choice of what shows to broadcast, its still on Maine > Public Broadcasting, 4:30pm on Saturday. > > As an aside we've got tickets to see the Red Green Wit and Wisdom tour on the > 30th of October in Keene, NH. To show what NPR afficianados we are we saw Ira > Glass there in the spring. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:33:27 -0500 > From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > >>> Max Dillon wrote: >> >>> Alpha sierra is "aw s##t", >>> usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. >> >> Or for Red Dwarf fans, "Aw smeg!" >> >> -- Philip >> > > Not much left on PBS here. they took off Red Dwarf, they took off > Dr. Who, now they took off Red Green. That is heresy... > > Only Sat night britcoms, and most of those I have seen before. > > IPBN kept gas in the possum van for a lot of years. Now they dump him. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes
I think its a local choice of what shows to broadcast, its still on Maine Public Broadcasting, 4:30pm on Saturday. As an aside we've got tickets to see the Red Green Wit and Wisdom tour on the 30th of October in Keene, NH. To show what NPR afficianados we are we saw Ira Glass there in the spring. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:33:27 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Max Dillon wrote: > >> Alpha sierra is "aw s##t", >> usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. > >Or for Red Dwarf fans, "Aw smeg!" > >-- Philip > Not much left on PBS here. they took off Red Dwarf, they took off Dr. Who, now they took off Red Green. That is heresy... Only Sat night britcoms, and most of those I have seen before. IPBN kept gas in the possum van for a lot of years. Now they dump him. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster --R Looks like an enginerror ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections
Some carriers specifically prohibit tethering in their contracts. It's not difficult to detect, either. Dan On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Fmiser wrote: >> Gerry Archer wrote: > >> Has anyone had experience with mobile wifi hotspot >> connections? Any problems? >> Daughter say Verizon in this area is poor. >> Just received first smartphone, an iPhone 3g-s, which has >> mobile connection to >> Verizon, but haven't been able to figure out how to use it as >> a connection to a laptop.in order to cancel DSL. > > It's called "tethering" when you use a 'phone as a modem to > access the 'phones data plan from a computer. Last I know, > iPhone would not allow it unless "jailbroken". > > There are USB "aircards" that access the cell data network for > computers. Usually a 5 to 8 GB limit per month. > > -- Philip > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
