Re: [MBZ] 95 rusted out cat converter

2012-10-13 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks Ron.

I Would love to here the reasoning behind that law.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Ronald Courcy tron...@hotmail.com wrote:


It is illegal for the salvage yard to sell you a cat for reuse. However
they can sell you a cat for recycling purposes.  They must cut off
both flanges and can not identify it as for a specific car. If the yard
is at all cooperative you could pull one off a car and they could cut
off the flanges and sell it to you legally for you to extract the
precious metals it contains.
There is no law that would prevent you from doing anything you want
with the cat once it is in your possession. Thanks Ron Courcy  

 
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 rusted out catalytic converter, leaking patch pipes

2012-10-13 Thread Rolf
Funny they always change their mind when they find out its a diesel.

Sent via string from my tin can.

Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

Rolf r...@winmutt.com writes:

 $40 for a test pipe welded in at the local shop?

A legitimate muffler shop will not weld in a test pipe.  They would get
huge fines if caught removing a cat for a customer.  They might sell you
one, and you can then do with it what you will under your own liability.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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[MBZ] OT Awesomeness

2012-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas

for some reason this got bounced

--R


 Original Message 
Subject:OT Awesomeness
Date:   Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:23:05 -0400
From:   Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/9596317/Alex-James-learns-to-fly-a-Spitfire.html

--R




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Re: [MBZ] 95 rusted out cat converter

2012-10-13 Thread John Reames
I had one car (hyundai excel) which had the first cat mounted to the bottom of 
the manifold. It was secured by 5-6 bolts about the circumference which went 
through the top of the manifold.  You couldn't buy a cat, but you could buy the 
manifold (which always had the cat bolted to it).

You'd need the manifold, as when the cat died, the overheating would cause the 
manifold casting to develop many cracks.

--
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Mobile: +14437915905

On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:12, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thanks Ron.
 
 I Would love to here the reasoning behind that law.
 
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300
 '87 300TD
 
 Ronald Courcy tron...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
 It is illegal for the salvage yard to sell you a cat for reuse. However
 they can sell you a cat for recycling purposes.  They must cut off
 both flanges and can not identify it as for a specific car. If the yard
 is at all cooperative you could pull one off a car and they could cut
 off the flanges and sell it to you legally for you to extract the
 precious metals it contains.
 There is no law that would prevent you from doing anything you want
 with the cat once it is in your possession. Thanks Ron Courcy

 
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[MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-13 Thread Conrad Trybus
Hello, 
I would like to ask for some knowledge about a 1973 280. I bought it a 
few months ago on craigslist. I'm not sure of how many miles it has due to the 
odometer not working, but I can live with that. I am in high school and this is 
my first car. As one would expect from a 16 year old, I don't have a whole lot 
of automotive experience or skill, but I have been working on restoring an old 
Jeep for a few years, so I'm not completely mechanically inept. I will try to 
repair whatever I can myself before even thinking of taking into a mechanic. 
First of all, the car smokes after getting up to temperature(maybe 
after driving 4-9 miles). It is a white smoke from the exhaust. Because of this 
I've been careful about regularly checking the oil. The seller said that they 
had it looked at by a mechanic, who told them it needs new valve seals.  I 
purchased the new seals and plan to install them myself. Can I do it with the 
head still on the engine? If so, wouldn't the pistons have to be at top dead 
center to do job? What I was wondering is how to turn the crank in order to do 
this. It doesn't look like there enough room to fit a socket wrench onto the 
front of the engine to turn it. The fan, vacuum pump, A/C, and radiator all 
seem to be in the way. Is there a way to turn the engine without removing the 
radiator? Also, if I'm careful, can I reuse all of the gaskets and seals, or 
would I have to buy new ones. 
I was also wondering about the vacuum pump. Is it really necessary at 
all? Would there be any benefit in removing it? Does it put extra strain on the 
engine? What would I have to do to remove it?
Also, the sun roof doesn't work. It worked for a couple days after I 
bought the car, then stopped working. When I press the open button nothing 
happens, but when I press the close button I hear the electric motor. The 
seller said it something about the fuses kept going out. I haven't found any 
bad fuses. Is the sunroof fuse in the main fusebox that has around 9 or 10 
fuses in it, or somewhere else? My dad and I ran a multimeter on some things 
found that the motor is good, but that the switch might be a little messed up 
(of course we might have just tested it wrong). We tried to repair the switch 
to the best of out ability, but I feel like it was better off before. Maybe I 
should buy a new switch just incase we killed it (any good places to buy one). 
Anyways, has anyone else had similar troubles? I know it's not at all important 
to the operation of the vehicle, but it would be nice if it worked. 
Finally, are there any little nuances about operating and maintaining 
an old Mercedes W114 that I should know about? Other than these things I 
mentioned, I love the car and hope to keep it in good condition. 
-Conrad
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[MBZ] Hybrid car batteries. was: Discussed earlier, possibly

2012-10-13 Thread Gerry Archer

On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:57:33 -0400 (EDT) relng...@aol.com wrote:
I don't recall discussions about this topic before.

Manufacturers of smaller electric vehicles such as electric bicycles,
scooters, and mo torcycles similarly struggle to manage the thermal
demands of increasingly energy dense batteries with high discharge
rates.
Whether protecting car batteries parked all day in the scorching
Phoenix sun or electric bike batteries baking inside a metal case
exposed to direct sunlight, AllCell's PCM composite can protect the
expensive lithium-ion battery cells from overheating, dramatically
extending battery life.

...
One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will have.
Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking
lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some lead
foot could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material.
Craig
..
Gerry wrote:
.Batteries provide the fuel that drives electric cars - in effect,
the vehicles' lifeblood. If batteries are to have a long service life,
overheating must be avoided. A battery's comfort zone lies between 20°C
and 35°C. But even a Sunday drive in the midday heat of summer can push a
battery's temperature well beyond that range. The damage caused can be
serious: operating a battery at a temperature of 45°C instead of 35°C halves
its service life.
..Thus far, conventional cooling systems have not reached their full
potential: either the batteries are not cooled at all - which is the case
with ones that are simply exchanged for a fully charged battery at the
service station - or they are air cooled. But air can absorb only very
little heat and is also a poor conductor of it. What's more, air cooling
requires big spaces between the battery's cells to allow sufficient fresh
air to circulate between them. Water-cooling systems are still in their
infancy. Though their thermal capacity exceeds that of air-cooling systems
and they are better at conducting away heat, their downside is the limited
supply of water in the system compared with the essentially limitless amount
of air that can flow through a battery.snip

http://www.fraunhofer.de/en/press/research-news/2012/july/keeping-electric-vehicle-batteries-cool.html

.
there is a debate raging, over whether automakers should turn to air or
liquid to regulate battery temperature, and the choice has provided fodder
for some green car makers to toot their own horns or slam competitors.
Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk has derided Nissan's battery pack, which uses an
air cooling system, as primitive compared with the sophistication of even
Tesla's first prototype, which uses liquid cooling. As a result, the LEAF
pack will have temperatures all over the place, claimed Musk, causing it
to suffer huge degradation in cold environments and basically shut off
in hot environments. General Motors for its Volt and Ford's line of hybrids
and EVs, have also opted to use liquid for battery temperature
regulation.snip
http://gigaom.com/cleantech/electric-car-101-liquid-vs-air-battery-cooling-systems/


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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Conrad Trybus tryb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, 
I would like to ask for some knowledge about a 1973 280. I am in high 
 school and this is my first car. As one would expect from a 16 year old, I 
 don't have a whole lot of automotive experience or skill, but I have been 
 working on restoring an old Jeep for a few years, so I'm not completely 
 mechanically inept. 
First of all, the car smokes after getting up to temperature(maybe after 
 driving 4-9 miles). It is a white smoke from the exhaust.

That would indicate a bad head gasket, not seals.  White smoke = coolant, blue 
smoke = oil, black smoke = fuel. 

  Also, if I'm careful, can I reuse all of the gaskets and seals, or would I 
 have to buy new ones. 

New. We have a parts supplier on this list, and his prices are the best of 
anyone's. 

I was also wondering about the vacuum pump. Is it really necessary at all?

A gasser with a vacuum pump? Yes, if it's there, it's necessary. German 
engineers are funny like that. 
 
Also, the sun roof doesn't work. It worked for a couple days after I 
 bought the car, then stopped working. When I press the open button nothing 
 happens, but when I press the close button I hear the electric motor.

On other models it is operated with a cable. Might be a cable issue. 
 Maybe I should buy a new switch just incase we killed it (any good places to 
 buy one). 

Rusty at buymbparts.BIZ 1-800-741-5252 
Finally, are there any little nuances about operating and maintaining an 
 old Mercedes W114 that I should know about?

Never owned one. 
 Other than these things I mentioned, I love the car and hope to keep it in 
 good condition

Jaime? Mitch? Loren? Kaleb? Craig? Roger? Someone who knows more than me please 
help this young man out. We were all young once...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:

Jaime? Mitch? Loren? Kaleb? Craig? Roger? Someone who knows more than me please 
help this young man out. We were all young once...


If the sunroof is similar to W116/W123, it probably needs a good cleaning, and 
should have a hex drive on the motor for emergency operation. The right lube is 
called Gelitpaste or something like that, I got mine from Rusty.


If the motor is only getting power in one direction, it might be worth taking 
the switch apart and cleaning it. Disassemble inside a pillowcase or gallon 
ziploc or something so you don't lose any pieces.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Mitch Haley wrote:

If the sunroof is similar to W116/W123, it probably needs a good 
cleaning, and should have a hex drive on the motor for emergency 
operation. 


If a picture is worth 1000 words, what's an 8 minute video worth?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgckziEuTdw

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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-13 Thread Tim C
Hi Conrad, and welcome!  I didn't get started wrenching until after
college, so you are already ahead of me. :)

 I would like to ask for some knowledge about a 1973 280. I bought
it a few months

The letters at the end are important, if there is an 'E' at the end it is
fuel injected, if not it has a carburetor.  I think both were available?
Though there is a reasonable chance someone here will correct me based on
the year. :)

)  I will try to repair whatever I can myself before even thinking of
taking into a mechanic.

Good plan, even when I do hire a mechanic they seem to know less than I do
about my cars.  With something this old it helps to diy as much as
possible. :)

 First of all, the car smokes after getting up to
temperature(maybe after driving 4-9 miles). It is a white smoke

Might it have a bluish tinge?  Try holding a sheet of printer paper behind
the smoke next time you park in the daylight.

White is water/steam, blue is oil.  Oil is pretty okay, water not so much.
:/

) from the exhaust. Because of this I've been careful about regularly
checking the oil.

Also make sure the radiator stays full.  I think there is no overflow tank
on that engine?  If not you will probably always be a little below the
filler neck, and that's okay.

If it is oil, checking the oil is good, but unless you are leaving a huge
plume of smoke you have some time to fix the problem and probably won't
notice the loss in the oil pan for a while.

Also, if you and your dad still aren't sure about the smoke, find the
teacher at your school with the oldest car and ask for advice.  At my high
school it was the math teacher, or if you have a mechanic class that
person.  I am quite certain they would be happy to look at it.

) Can I do it with the head still on the engine? If so, wouldn't the
pistons have to be at top dead center to do job?

There will be markings externally so you can do this.  Someone here will be
able to tell you exactly where those are, but not me. :)

) What I was wondering is how to turn the crank in order to do this.

On the diesels you can turn the power steering bolt, and there is enough
tension on the accessory belt to turn the engine.  You should be able to do
the same.  If not you can probably get a socket on the crank bolt - it
should be a little recessed - to get a breaker bar on it.

Only tip here is, guard the radiator!  My 115 radiator was a few hundred
dollars several years ago, I would not be surprised if they were over $500
by now.

) Also, if I'm careful, can I reuse all of the gaskets and seals, or would
I have to buy new ones.

The paper gaskets are probably going to tear up as you remove them, they
are also very cheap.  Seals you have some discretion; if you can leave the
car in the driveway while parts ship you can decide once everything is
apart.  I usually order them because I would rather be able to finish in
one day, and worst case I have some spares.

 I was also wondering about the vacuum pump. Is it really
necessary at all? Would there be any benefit in removing it? Does it put
extra strain on the engine? What would I have to do to remove it?

Necessary: yes, it will drive either the carburetor or the injector
timing.  Yes, it adds load.  You could theoretically create a computer to
replace it... but don't, it's a fine old car as it is. :)

 Also, the sun roof doesn't work. It worked for a couple days
after I bought the car, then stopped working. When I press the open button
nothing happens, but when I press the close button I hear the electric
motor. The seller said it

Probably a bad switch.  Pull it out and open it up (inside a shoe box,
pieces and bearings will pop out).  Try to clean everything and figure out
how it should go back together. :)

) We tried to repair the switch to the best of out ability, but I feel like
it was better off before.

I should have kept reading. :)  You could buy a new switch, but really you
can get them back together - it often takes me several tries.  I usually
work on that sort of thing when I'm in a parking lot waiting for someone.

) Maybe I should buy a new switch just incase we killed it (any good places
to buy one).

Rusty knows a lot about these cars, and can order any parts you need.  He
will also be able to tell you what gaskets and seals you have to replace,
should replace, and probably won't have to replace for a given job.  Also a
nice guy on the phone, and stands behind his products.  Web site is
buymbparts.biz but call him, phone prices are better and he'll give you all
the time you need to get the right parts.

(If you call and someone else answers, you should probably ask for Rusty
unless you are 100% sure of your order.  Tom is nice but doesn't have
Rusty's experience.  And no I don't get a commission, just a very satisfied
customer. :)

 Finally, are there any little nuances about operating and
maintaining an old Mercedes W114 that I should know about?

0) If it has a carburetor, learn 

Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-13 Thread Peter Frederick
If it has a vacuum pump, I'm almost positive it's fuel injected (D- 
Jet), which is a VAST improvement over the Solex carb fitted on those  
models.  No one, including Solex and MB, ever got that carb to work  
well.


As noted, white smoke is coolant, and you can smell it.  Typically  
it's most obvious when first started and it will really show up on  
cold days.


Pale grey stinky smoke along with low power and a funny subdued engine  
sound is transmission fluid, although if you have a vacuum pump it's  
fairly unlikely you have a vacuum modulator connected directly to the  
intake, but check.  If there is transmission fluid in the vacuum line  
from the modulator, you must replace the modulator as soon as possible  
-- transmission fluid in the combustion chambers is bad mojo (think  
stuck rings and badly chewed cylinder walls).


If you have a leaking modulator, you don't have leaking valve stem  
seals.  Those cause blue smoke on startup from oil leaking down into  
the cylinders when the engine is off, and excessive oil consumption.   
You can also get some blue smoke on deceleration, but never enough to  
see from the driver's seat.  No white smoke from valve guide seals.


Sunroof desperately needs lubrication.  Don't use ANYTHING but the  
official MB paste, it's the only thing that actually works and doesn't  
cause the accumulation of crud.  If someone used grease, clean it all  
off and use the proper MB stuff, it's a soft wax.  Works perfectly.


Have fun!

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 95 rusted out cat converter

2012-10-13 Thread Allan Streib
Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes:

 I Would love to here the reasoning behind that law.

Manufacturers/recyclers lobbying activities.

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Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-13 Thread Hendrik Fay
You want wheels? Try this 
http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?SaleCode=LF12CarID=r139fc=0#


Hendrik
who has big wheels on the truck

On 12/10/12 17:06, Rolf wrote:

Drooled all the way up to :

VEHICLE IS LOCATED NEAR HANNOVER GERMANY AT MY WAREHOUSE


On 10/9/2012 8:33 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-608-D-Van-Diesel-Classic-RV-Camper-Sprinter-/221133770791?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item337c999027#ht_1519wt_1167http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-608-D-Van-Diesel-Classic-RV-Camper-Sprinter-/221133770791?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item337c999027#ht_1519wt_1167 





Anybody looking for a camper?
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Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-13 Thread Craig
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:49:29 +1030 Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
wrote:

 You want wheels? Try this 
 http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?SaleCode=LF12CarID=r139fc=0#

Oh, my. That's really over the top.


Craig

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[MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-13 Thread Hendrik Fay

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120998070236?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_trksid%3Dp3907.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D120998070236%26_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_fvi%3D1_rdc=1

What is for?

Hendrik
who knows

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Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-13 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Never seen one like that.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120998070236?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_trksid%3Dp3907.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D120998070236%26_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_fvi%3D1_rdc=1

What is for?

Hendrik
who knows

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Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Adjusting steering boxes on early cars?

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

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 What is for?

 Hendrik
 who knows

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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes ?s smoke, valve seals, vacuum pump, sunroof

2012-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey

Can I do [new seals] with the head still on the engine?


I think so, yes.  I've done it on a V8.


If so, wouldn't the pistons have to be at top dead center to do job?


Yes.  I use a 3/4 drive socket set from Harbor Freight for this,
on the crankshaft nut.


are there any little nuances about operating and maintaining an
old Mercedes W114 that I should know about?


Rust.  They love to rust, so stay on top of that.
Maybe some 'English undercoating?  Does it have AC?

If you can, try to get some oil on the blower fan
bearings.  It is not easy.  But anything you can do
to extend the life of that fan is very much worth
doing.  The joke is that they hung the blower fan
from a string and then built the car around it.
Not so funny once yours goes bad.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-13 Thread G Mann
One of those special down under  tools since you can only reach
things from the bottom side of the world and drive on the right, it takes
special tools that only ancient Mercedes mechanics know how to use... lost
art and all now...

Grant...
[Who has been waiting for a chance to pull Hendriks chain... lol] Honestly
mate, don't have a clue... share it with us would you?

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 Adjusting steering boxes on early cars?

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  26_from%3DR40%26_fvi%3D1_rdc=**1
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Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-13 Thread Max Dillon
I'll bet you could plug in the number visible in the picture at Sam Stag's 
website, and learn the purpose.

My guess is adjusting valves on gasser engines from the sixties or seventies.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'87 300TD

Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

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Hendrik
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Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-13 Thread Max Dillon
Hazet tool 327: HAZET Overhead Valve Adjust Tool for Mercedes. For valve 
adjustment on old Mercedes Benz 6 cylinder from 1950-1965. It is a special 14mm 
crowfoot wrench with sliding T-handle, and a long flat blade screwdriver.

Example in the auction is missing the screw driver.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
That thing looks like some Chinese designer for a Korean car company 
dropped acid and tried to draw a Lotus.


--R

On 10/13/12 7:19 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:
You want wheels? Try this 
http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?SaleCode=LF12CarID=r139fc=0#


Hendrik
who has big wheels on the truck

On 12/10/12 17:06, Rolf wrote:

Drooled all the way up to :

VEHICLE IS LOCATED NEAR HANNOVER GERMANY AT MY WAREHOUSE


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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat

2012-10-13 Thread RELNGSON
 .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will 
 have.
 Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking
 lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some lead
 foot could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material
 
This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are 
all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little 
go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times 
without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat

2012-10-13 Thread Brian Toscano
As if you needed another reason to explain why Phoenix sucks.


On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:46 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will
  have.
  Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking
  lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some lead
  foot could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material
 
 This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are
 all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little
 go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times
 without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light.

 RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Found Your New Wheels :)

2012-10-13 Thread Brian Toscano
One of a kind, by U.S. standards!

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 That thing looks like some Chinese designer for a Korean car company
 dropped acid and tried to draw a Lotus.

 --R

 On 10/13/12 7:19 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 You want wheels? Try this http://www.rmauctions.com/**
 FeatureCars.cfm?SaleCode=LF12**CarID=r139fc=0#http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?SaleCode=LF12CarID=r139fc=0#

 Hendrik
 who has big wheels on the truck

 On 12/10/12 17:06, Rolf wrote:

 Drooled all the way up to :

 VEHICLE IS LOCATED NEAR HANNOVER GERMANY AT MY WAREHOUSE


 On 10/9/2012 8:33 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Mercedes-608-D-Van-**
 Diesel-Classic-RV-Camper-**Sprinter-/221133770791?pt=US_**
 Cars_Truckshash=**item337c999027#ht_1519wt_1167http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-608-D-Van-Diesel-Classic-RV-Camper-Sprinter-/221133770791?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item337c999027#ht_1519wt_1167
 **http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Mercedes-608-D-Van-**
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Re: [MBZ] Phoenix heat

2012-10-13 Thread Dieselhead

  .One thing I question is how much thermal capacity the material will

 have.
 Baking in the scorching Phoenix sun all day while sitting in a parking
 lot and then having to supply high discharge rates to satisfy some lead
 foot could certainly exceed the thermal capacity of the material


This statement certainly doesn't apply to any Prius drivers since they are
all members of the Anti Destination Society and never depress their little
go pedals more than 1/4 inch so as to operate electrically at all times
without regard for the poor buggers behind them trying to make the light.

RLE


Some are like that for sure.  But around here, many act like they 
think they are NASCAR drivers.  Some gas savings...


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Re: [MBZ] Hazet tool?

2012-10-13 Thread Dieselhead
M180 or M120 engines.  All I ever used was a combi wrench and an 
ordinary screwdriver.  This tool is not needed for most of us.  If 
you were going to be adjusting valves on these engines all day, day 
after day, this tool would be handy.]


Prob'ly works on the M??? engine used in the 300d and the SL and the 300SE/SEL


Hazet tool 327: HAZET Overhead Valve Adjust Tool for Mercedes. For 
valve adjustment on old Mercedes Benz 6 cylinder from 1950-1965. It 
is a special 14mm crowfoot wrench with sliding T-handle, and a long 
flat blade screwdriver.


Example in the auction is missing the screw driver.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120998070236?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_trksid%3Dp3907.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D120998070236%26_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_fvi%3D1_rdc=1

What is for?

Hendrik

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