Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

[Greg Fiorentino]

Hendrik:

I have a dearly loved Sister-in-Law who can't help reposting screeds of
fever-swamp left-wing websites.  After the first few I stopped responding
with logic and facts and simply hid her objectionable posts.  If someone on
the list whose comments I valued posted occasional illogical and uninformed
political posts I would probably read them all and respond.  If they were
too frequent I might add the poster to my "twit list" via an outlook filter.
I strongly believe in open and fair discussion on the course our nation has
taken and should take.  I do not believe that silencing one side of a
discussion has a place in a democracy.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

My question is what would the outcome be if someone posted a link to a
website where you can sign up to support gun control?
Anyway whatever happens it's nothing to do with me, we got our gun control
last century. Has it worked? Well there have been no more massacre type
events (although the conspiracy theories on Port Arthur are quite puzzling,
particularly that they built a mortuary truck
http://southeastasianews.org/portarthur/the_morgue_truck.html ).
However it seems that criminal types still seem to have access to all sorts
of weaponry. Whilst I need a license to own a air rifle, not that I have an
air rifle or license.

Hendrik
who lives in a semi civilised country

On 15/01/13 14:52, Brian Toscano wrote:
> I would not be offended if the easily offended people unsubscribed 
> from the list.  Should be treated no different than reading about 
> Randy's oven hood, Craig's postings about a job search involving 
> religious universities, or the paneling in Curt's home.
>
> On Monday, January 14, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
>> I think more people with cars have killed other people than people 
>> with guns have killed other people, just a thought
>>
>>


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Re: [MBZ] OT GUN: RKBA

[Hendrik and fay]

My question is what would the outcome be if someone posted a link to a 
website where you can sign up to support gun control?
Anyway whatever happens it's nothing to do with me, we got our gun 
control last century. Has it worked? Well there have been no more 
massacre type events (although the conspiracy theories on Port Arthur 
are quite puzzling, particularly that they built a mortuary truck 
http://southeastasianews.org/portarthur/the_morgue_truck.html ).
However it seems that criminal types still seem to have access to all 
sorts of weaponry. Whilst I need a license to own a air rifle, not that 
I have an air rifle or license.


Hendrik
who lives in a semi civilised country

On 15/01/13 14:52, Brian Toscano wrote:

I would not be offended if the easily offended people unsubscribed from the
list.  Should be treated no different than reading about Randy's oven hood,
Craig's postings about a job search involving religious universities, or
the paneling in Curt's home.

On Monday, January 14, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I think more people with cars have killed other people than people with
guns have killed other people, just a thought





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Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles with a 4850-1

[Hendrik and fay]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HAZET-4850-1-Nozzle-Adjusting-Tool-/180972607113?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a22ced689
Only 10 bucks but shipping is making me cry.

Hendrik
who can buy a box of beer for 40 bucks
On 15/01/13 14:33, clay monroe wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290844082041?item=290844082041&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123&vxp=mtr

bid up now

clay

On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:50 PM, OK Don wrote:


It's called a peice of piano wire, the size od the nozzle - insert - point
where you want the spray, remove wire.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:


That's a good idea, although I don't think it's debris in the nozzle that
is my problem.

Hendrik
who wants the official factory tool for aligning nozzles

On 14/01/13 01:06, Gerry Archer wrote:


'83 300D window washer kept spraying in the wrong direction and I found
that it was debris coming from the tank that caused it.  Put a very small
fuel filter in line between the tank and and the nozzles and haven't had
the problem since.
Gerry






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Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

[Dieselhead]

Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't ---


I did!  Makes the viewer seasick!

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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Dieselhead]

I would not be offended if the easily offended people unsubscribed from the
list.  Should be treated no different than reading about Randy's oven hood,
Craig's postings about a job search involving religious universities, or
the paneling in Curt's home.


I am offended!It is offensive that someone is offended by an 
offer to stand up for your constitutional rights.


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[MBZ] Very OT: Ban the Doctors!

[Dieselhead]

facts:

Ban the doctors!  Using the same logic hyped by celebrities, 
politicians, and self-appointed do-gooders, doctors and other medical 
professionals should be banned.


You are almost 9 times more likely to be killed by a doctor than by a 
firearm.  Here are the facts:


Firearm homicides
*   Number of deaths: 11,078
*   Deaths per 100,000 population: 3.6
From CDC:  http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm


2004 numbers:
Some deaths from medical causes
Deaths from Medical error:  98,000
Deaths from bedsores (hospital) 115,000

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_02.htm


Therefore:  by the same logic, there should be mass hysteria to ban the Docs.

Then the same groups can move on to banning bathtubs, cars, baseball 
bats, knives, golf clubs, vases, bricks, golf clubs, and all other 
instruments of death.


oops.. aren't some people saved by doctors?   Can't use that argument, huh?

Hmmm.  ...  Aren't some people saved by protectors with guns?... 
Guess that argument does not hold up either then does it.



Oh well, when did logic matter?
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Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

[Rick Knoble]

On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:28 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:

> It was - I was asking if there was any negative effect on one of the list
> members -


Probably Philip, who originally asked for the cap to be raised. Oops. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Dieselhead]

Well said Mr. Mann.

http://www.usrepeals.org/ca/mtbpers/hoplophobia.html





I'll join in this thread simply because my family came to this country in
1731, fought the war of independence, and were part of the group that
ratified the Constitution. A member of my family has defended this Country
in every conflict to date, so I feel I do have skin in this game.

There is a specific condition for those who express unfounded and excessive
fear of guns in particular. *Hoplopobia* , For anyone so afflicted, it
might be worth the effort for them to look up the proper, full meaning and
explanation of the term Hoplopobia. I respectfully suggest they do so.

It is my considered opinion that the present flailing emotions displayed by
Hoplopobiac persons which entirely focuses on "guns are bad because I am
scared of what I would do with one" unfortunately fails terribly because it
fails to address the true issues behind the improper use of a self defense
weapon.

We have now heard days of broadcasting by panic consumed people who get
public exposure and NOT ONCE have the real issues which need to be
addressed been spoken about.

While the crazy madman killed people, approximately 270,000,000 citizens in
America who own guns did nothing illegal with them. They lived the entire
day without doing harm to anyone, and have continued to do so.

I'm one of those citizens and I'm deeply insulted by the Hoploplobiac who
intends to impart their own untreated condition upon me. The 2nd Amendment
is not about guns.. it is about the God Given Right to self defense by any
means. It exists because our forefathers had the experience and wisdom to
understand that God Given Right existed and that it was responsible of them
to preserve it against ALL who would infringe that Right.

For those Hoploplobics who take the time to consult Websters, please feel
free to also consult the meaning of "infringe", "treason" and "sedition".

Now, I leave you to go watch a hollywood movie that displays for over 2 hrs
the wanton murder of people by unemotional and improper use of firearms,
for entertainment purposes, of course. Later I'll try to find and watch the
same hollywood stars display their Hoploplobia, on camera, for the new
media.. yet again.

Respectfully,

Grant...

-Compassion Challenged by Political Correct-



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


 I think more people with cars have killed other people than people with
 guns have killed other people, just a thought

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

 > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 >> I'm not.
 >
 > Heck, there's probably 50 cars at your house.
 > What if the wrong person got a hold of one of THEM?
 >
 > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

[OK Don]

It was - I was asking if there was any negative effect on one of the list
members -

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:51:44 -0600 OK Don  wrote:
>
> > Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't ---
>
> I didn't either; I just thought the change was more dramatic than we had
> asked for.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

[Craig]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:51:44 -0600 OK Don  wrote:

> Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't ---

I didn't either; I just thought the change was more dramatic than we had
asked for.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles

[Craig]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:03:43 -0800 clay monroe 
wrote:

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290844082041?item=290844082041&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123&vxp=mtr

I thought the thread was about window washer nozzles.

Are you hijacking it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[G Mann]

I'll join in this thread simply because my family came to this country in
1731, fought the war of independence, and were part of the group that
ratified the Constitution. A member of my family has defended this Country
in every conflict to date, so I feel I do have skin in this game.

There is a specific condition for those who express unfounded and excessive
fear of guns in particular. *Hoplopobia* , For anyone so afflicted, it
might be worth the effort for them to look up the proper, full meaning and
explanation of the term Hoplopobia. I respectfully suggest they do so.

It is my considered opinion that the present flailing emotions displayed by
Hoplopobiac persons which entirely focuses on "guns are bad because I am
scared of what I would do with one" unfortunately fails terribly because it
fails to address the true issues behind the improper use of a self defense
weapon.

We have now heard days of broadcasting by panic consumed people who get
public exposure and NOT ONCE have the real issues which need to be
addressed been spoken about.

While the crazy madman killed people, approximately 270,000,000 citizens in
America who own guns did nothing illegal with them. They lived the entire
day without doing harm to anyone, and have continued to do so.

I'm one of those citizens and I'm deeply insulted by the Hoploplobiac who
intends to impart their own untreated condition upon me. The 2nd Amendment
is not about guns.. it is about the God Given Right to self defense by any
means. It exists because our forefathers had the experience and wisdom to
understand that God Given Right existed and that it was responsible of them
to preserve it against ALL who would infringe that Right.

For those Hoploplobics who take the time to consult Websters, please feel
free to also consult the meaning of "infringe", "treason" and "sedition".

Now, I leave you to go watch a hollywood movie that displays for over 2 hrs
the wanton murder of people by unemotional and improper use of firearms,
for entertainment purposes, of course. Later I'll try to find and watch the
same hollywood stars display their Hoploplobia, on camera, for the new
media.. yet again.

Respectfully,

Grant...

-Compassion Challenged by Political Correct-



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> I think more people with cars have killed other people than people with
> guns have killed other people, just a thought
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >> I'm not.
> >
> > Heck, there's probably 50 cars at your house.
> > What if the wrong person got a hold of one of THEM?
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Brian Toscano]

I would not be offended if the easily offended people unsubscribed from the
list.  Should be treated no different than reading about Randy's oven hood,
Craig's postings about a job search involving religious universities, or
the paneling in Curt's home.

On Monday, January 14, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> I think more people with cars have killed other people than people with
> guns have killed other people, just a thought
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Mitch Haley >
> wrote:
>
> > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >> I'm not.
> >
> > Heck, there's probably 50 cars at your house.
> > What if the wrong person got a hold of one of THEM?
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[OK Don]

It looks a lot like a VW CC - whose CoD is 0.28 - same as the 1986 W124
sedan. My how the rest finally catch-up.
Yes, at highway speeds, CoD does make a difference. I've seen the fuel
consumption go from 40mpg to 50mpg on my commute home, depending on traffic
and head/tail wind. A 30 MPH wind can change your airspeed from 70mph to
either 40 or 100 - BIG difference in drag. I think it made a difference of
around 15 vs 25 mpg in the ML on a round trip to Dallas on day - but it's
been a while.
The Passat does not have a particularly low CoD, though I haven't found the
number yet. I was surprised that VW was braggin about 0.28 on the CC though.

All that having been said, I like the swoopy designs. No, they don't look
like a traditional MB, but nothing else does either. they wouldn'ty sell,
because those of us who worship the old cars, can't ot won't afford a new
one, regardless of what it loks like.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:45 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> Some wind tunnel data I've seen, which came out of Wright Patterson so I
> tend to believe it, says below 50 MPH drag force on a car is not really a
> factor. Certainly, in rush hour, start stop, it is not, At sustained speed
> above 50 MPH the drag factor increases with speed to the point that it
> becomes worthy of the "significant" rating.
>
> I personally believe most of the "Swoopy" built into cars currently is for
> marketing more than anything else.  If it looks a certain way, you must be
> saving money on gas, school of engineered marketing. On par with the
> marketing of the 50's and 60's when you could "Hear the power" so it must
> be a fast car.
>
> Just my .02  cents worth
> Grant...
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Gerry Archer  >wrote:
>
> > I wonder how it's drag force compares to other production cars?  If the
> > shape of the body lowers drag, its unique shape might be worthwhile.
> > Couldn't find that spec anywhere.
> > Gerry
> >
> > From: "ernest breakfield" 
> >
> >> how very Hyundai looking,...
> >> cheers!
> >> e
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Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles

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bid up now

clay

On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:50 PM, OK Don wrote:

> It's called a peice of piano wire, the size od the nozzle - insert - point
> where you want the spray, remove wire.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:
> 
>> That's a good idea, although I don't think it's debris in the nozzle that
>> is my problem.
>> 
>> Hendrik
>> who wants the official factory tool for aligning nozzles
>> 
>> On 14/01/13 01:06, Gerry Archer wrote:
>> 
>>> '83 300D window washer kept spraying in the wrong direction and I found
>>> that it was debris coming from the tank that caused it.  Put a very small
>>> fuel filter in line between the tank and and the nozzles and haven't had
>>> the problem since.
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:
 
> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/**2013/01/window-washers-**
> dressed-up-as-spiderman-when-**they-visited-a-childrens-**hospital/
> Hendrik
> who is wondering why a window washer nozzle on the Merc got out of
> alignment
> 
 
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Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

[OK Don]

Did anyone have a problem with the attached video? I didn't ---

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Craig wrote:
> > I noticed, though, that we have gone from having to have something that's
> > 41 kB approved to having something that's 9.67 MB come straight to the
> > list without having a link at the bottom of the sender's email.
>
> I forwarded the video to someone else by finding it at youtube via
> google search.
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Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles

[OK Don]

It's called a peice of piano wire, the size od the nozzle - insert - point
where you want the spray, remove wire.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:

> That's a good idea, although I don't think it's debris in the nozzle that
> is my problem.
>
> Hendrik
> who wants the official factory tool for aligning nozzles
>
> On 14/01/13 01:06, Gerry Archer wrote:
>
>> '83 300D window washer kept spraying in the wrong direction and I found
>> that it was debris coming from the tank that caused it.  Put a very small
>> fuel filter in line between the tank and and the nozzles and haven't had
>> the problem since.
>> Gerry
>>
>>  On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:
>>>
 http://www.gizmodo.com.au/**2013/01/window-washers-**
 dressed-up-as-spiderman-when-**they-visited-a-childrens-**hospital/
 Hendrik
 who is wondering why a window washer nozzle on the Merc got out of
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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[G Mann]

Some wind tunnel data I've seen, which came out of Wright Patterson so I
tend to believe it, says below 50 MPH drag force on a car is not really a
factor. Certainly, in rush hour, start stop, it is not, At sustained speed
above 50 MPH the drag factor increases with speed to the point that it
becomes worthy of the "significant" rating.

I personally believe most of the "Swoopy" built into cars currently is for
marketing more than anything else.  If it looks a certain way, you must be
saving money on gas, school of engineered marketing. On par with the
marketing of the 50's and 60's when you could "Hear the power" so it must
be a fast car.

Just my .02  cents worth
Grant...

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

> I wonder how it's drag force compares to other production cars?  If the
> shape of the body lowers drag, its unique shape might be worthwhile.
> Couldn't find that spec anywhere.
> Gerry
>
> From: "ernest breakfield" 
>
>> how very Hyundai looking,...
>> cheers!
>> e
>>
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Re: [MBZ] wtb: 1987 300D fuel injector line #4

[Dieselhead]

Q does.  800 741 5252   How are the clips securing the lines?  Broken 
or missing clips mean broken inj lines. sooner or later.



Mine is spritzing up and out at the injector. Anyone got one or 
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Re: [MBZ] wtb: 1987 300D fuel injector line #4

[Rick Knoble]

On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Rolf"  wrote:

> Mine is spritzing up and out at the injector. Anyone got one or a set for 
> sale?


Didn't have them clamped, eh? 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[Gerry Archer]

Having owned a 110 ('67 200D), I don't mind driving an ugly Mercedes so long 
as it provides dependable, economic transportation.

Gerry

From: "ernest breakfield" 
fair point, and i understand how working everything through the wind 
tunnel to reduce the C_d is a Good Thing for the highway mileage (that 
most people don't do much of),.. but it seems it shouldn't have to come 
out looking so ugly.

cheers!
e

On 14/Jan/13 17:15, Gerry Archer wrote:
I wonder how it's drag force compares to other production cars?  If the 
shape of the body lowers drag, its unique shape might be worthwhile. 
Couldn't find that spec anywhere.

Gerry

From: "ernest breakfield" 

how very Hyundai looking,...
cheers!
e


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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I think more people with cars have killed other people than people with guns 
have killed other people, just a thought

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> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> I'm not.
> 
> Heck, there's probably 50 cars at your house.
> What if the wrong person got a hold of one of THEM?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

He is 4 thinking about hooking him up with a 22 pretty soon

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On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:

> How well is your young soon shooting?  Believe I was about eight or ten when 
> I finally was allowed to "plink" at tin cans with a Crossman pellet gun.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> 
>> I'm not.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would worry myself sick that the wrong person might get a hold one
>>> one of them.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
>>  wrote:
 If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably
>> need to be out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house,
>> in every car, carry at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I
>> also have thousands of rounds of ammo. That link probably should not
>> have been posted in the first place but I just wanted to make it known
>> I have a low tolerance for the gun control crowd.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> And if it continues, I'm out of here!
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski 
>> wrote:
> 
>> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I'm not.


Heck, there's probably 50 cars at your house.
What if the wrong person got a hold of one of THEM?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Max Dillon]

How well is your young soon shooting?  Believe I was about eight or ten when I 
finally was allowed to "plink" at tin cans with a Crossman pellet gun.

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"Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

>I'm not.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>wrote:
>
>> I would worry myself sick that the wrong person might get a hold one
>> one of them.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
> wrote:
>>> If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably
>need to be out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house,
>in every car, carry at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I
>also have thousands of rounds of ammo. That link probably should not
>have been posted in the first place but I just wanted to make it known
>I have a low tolerance for the gun control crowd.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:23 PM, John Freer  wrote:
>>> 
 And if it continues, I'm out of here!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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>wrote:
 
> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino
>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[ernest breakfield]

fair point, and i understand how working everything through the wind 
tunnel to reduce the C_d is a Good Thing for the highway mileage (that 
most people don't do much of),.. but it seems it shouldn't have to come 
out looking so ugly.



cheers!
e

On 14/Jan/13 17:15, Gerry Archer wrote:
I wonder how it's drag force compares to other production cars?  If 
the shape of the body lowers drag, its unique shape might be 
worthwhile. Couldn't find that spec anywhere.

Gerry

From: "ernest breakfield" 

how very Hyundai looking,...
cheers!
e


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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[ernest breakfield]

and in those cases, if you don't have one yourself, what you want is for 
the Right person to have one.
isn't it clear enough yet that trying to keep guns out of the hands 
of good people isn't keeping them out of the hands of bad people?



cheers!
e

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On 14/Jan/13 18:29, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I would worry myself sick that the wrong person might get a hold one
one of them.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:

If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably need to be 
out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house, in every car, carry 
at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I also have thousands of rounds 
of ammo. That link probably should not have been posted in the first place but 
I just wanted to make it known I have a low tolerance for the gun control crowd.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:23 PM, John Freer  wrote:


And if it continues, I'm out of here!

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:


I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.

Jaime



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:



Ruger has a nice service on their site:



http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html



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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Jon Agne]

Greg,

BTW, you are right...it was labeled OT.  Mea Culpa.  I have friends in Newtown, 
and I jumped the gun...so to speak.

Jon


On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Jon Agne wrote:

> FWIWI believe I believe in the 1st and 2nd, as well as all of the others. 
>  I also own several weapons of various calibre, and have no desire to 
> confiscate anyone else's firearms.  
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> 
>> Jaime, John and Jon:
>> 
>> And any others who feel the same.
>> 
>> This was labeled as OT, and even had a descriptive title indicating exactly
>> what would be in the post.  I have in the past noted an interest in firearms
>> by some of the list members.  If it does not pertain to you, you didn't even
>> have to open the message.  It was only directed at those who are interested.
>> Why did you even look at the contents if it's not your area of interest?  I
>> see many messages on this list that are not of particular interest to me;
>> and many others that are very interesting and broaden my knowledge.  I
>> personally am very grateful for the diversity, experience and intelligence
>> the list members provide.  I don't see how making certain topics off-limits
>> would be good for the list.
>> 
>> Or perhaps you are as opposed to the 1st. as much as to the 2nd.
>> 
>> Feel free to press the delete button, or if the free exchange of ideas is
>> too disturbing by all means exercise the nuclear option!
>> 
>> Best regards to all,
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
>> Kopchinski
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:09 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA
>> 
>> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
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[MBZ] wtb: 1987 300D fuel injector line #4

[Rolf]

Mine is spritzing up and out at the injector. Anyone got one or a 
set for sale?


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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I'm not.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

> I would worry myself sick that the wrong person might get a hold one
> one of them.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>> If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably need to 
>> be out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house, in every car, 
>> carry at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I also have thousands of 
>> rounds of ammo. That link probably should not have been posted in the first 
>> place but I just wanted to make it known I have a low tolerance for the gun 
>> control crowd.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:23 PM, John Freer  wrote:
>> 
>>> And if it continues, I'm out of here!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
 wrote:
 
> 
> 
> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
> 
> 
> 
> Greg
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Cool. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> FWIWI believe I believe in the 1st and 2nd, as well as all of the others. 
>  I also own several weapons of various calibre, and have no desire to 
> confiscate anyone else's firearms.  
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> 
>> Jaime, John and Jon:
>> 
>> And any others who feel the same.
>> 
>> This was labeled as OT, and even had a descriptive title indicating exactly
>> what would be in the post.  I have in the past noted an interest in firearms
>> by some of the list members.  If it does not pertain to you, you didn't even
>> have to open the message.  It was only directed at those who are interested.
>> Why did you even look at the contents if it's not your area of interest?  I
>> see many messages on this list that are not of particular interest to me;
>> and many others that are very interesting and broaden my knowledge.  I
>> personally am very grateful for the diversity, experience and intelligence
>> the list members provide.  I don't see how making certain topics off-limits
>> would be good for the list.
>> 
>> Or perhaps you are as opposed to the 1st. as much as to the 2nd.
>> 
>> Feel free to press the delete button, or if the free exchange of ideas is
>> too disturbing by all means exercise the nuclear option!
>> 
>> Best regards to all,
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
>> Kopchinski
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:09 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA
>> 
>> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I would worry myself sick that the wrong person might get a hold one
one of them.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably need to 
> be out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house, in every car, 
> carry at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I also have thousands of 
> rounds of ammo. That link probably should not have been posted in the first 
> place but I just wanted to make it known I have a low tolerance for the gun 
> control crowd.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:23 PM, John Freer  wrote:
>
>> And if it continues, I'm out of here!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
>>>
>>> Jaime
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 Ruger has a nice service on their site:



 http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html



 Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Jon Agne]

FWIWI believe I believe in the 1st and 2nd, as well as all of the others.  
I also own several weapons of various calibre, and have no desire to confiscate 
anyone else's firearms.  

Best,

Jon


On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> Jaime, John and Jon:
> 
> And any others who feel the same.
> 
> This was labeled as OT, and even had a descriptive title indicating exactly
> what would be in the post.  I have in the past noted an interest in firearms
> by some of the list members.  If it does not pertain to you, you didn't even
> have to open the message.  It was only directed at those who are interested.
> Why did you even look at the contents if it's not your area of interest?  I
> see many messages on this list that are not of particular interest to me;
> and many others that are very interesting and broaden my knowledge.  I
> personally am very grateful for the diversity, experience and intelligence
> the list members provide.  I don't see how making certain topics off-limits
> would be good for the list.
> 
> Or perhaps you are as opposed to the 1st. as much as to the 2nd.
> 
> Feel free to press the delete button, or if the free exchange of ideas is
> too disturbing by all means exercise the nuclear option!
> 
> Best regards to all,
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
> Kopchinski
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:09 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA
> 
> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[Gerry Archer]

If it should come out later with a diesel engine, a hybrid battery, and get 
50+ mpg, Chris, I'd be in the market for one; but don't hold your breath 
until that happens.

Gerry

From: "Chris James" 
It certainly is a departure from traditional Mercedes styling (I think one 
article I read said the new CLA had a better drag coefficient then the 
Prius), but it's growing on me. Of course nothing will compare to the 
iconic W201/W124/W126's.



On 1/14/2013 8:15 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

I wonder how it's drag force compares to other production cars?  If the
shape of the body lowers drag, its unique shape might be worthwhile.
Couldn't find that spec anywhere.
Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[buymbparts]

I certainly agree. 


Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: "Greg Fiorentino" 
Sender: "Mercedes" 
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:40:34 
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

Jaime, John and Jon:

And any others who feel the same.

This was labeled as OT, and even had a descriptive title indicating exactly
what would be in the post.  I have in the past noted an interest in firearms
by some of the list members.  If it does not pertain to you, you didn't even
have to open the message.  It was only directed at those who are interested.
Why did you even look at the contents if it's not your area of interest?  I
see many messages on this list that are not of particular interest to me;
and many others that are very interesting and broaden my knowledge.  I
personally am very grateful for the diversity, experience and intelligence
the list members provide.  I don't see how making certain topics off-limits
would be good for the list.

Or perhaps you are as opposed to the 1st. as much as to the 2nd.

Feel free to press the delete button, or if the free exchange of ideas is
too disturbing by all means exercise the nuclear option!

Best regards to all,

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
Kopchinski
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:09 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.

Jaime



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino
wrote:

>
>
> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>
>
>
> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>
>
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[Chris James]

It certainly is a departure from traditional Mercedes styling (I think 
one article I read said the new CLA had a better drag coefficient then 
the Prius), but it's growing on me. Of course nothing will compare to 
the iconic W201/W124/W126's.



On 1/14/2013 8:15 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

I wonder how it's drag force compares to other production cars?  If the
shape of the body lowers drag, its unique shape might be worthwhile.
Couldn't find that spec anywhere.
Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Greg Fiorentino]

Jaime, John and Jon:

And any others who feel the same.

This was labeled as OT, and even had a descriptive title indicating exactly
what would be in the post.  I have in the past noted an interest in firearms
by some of the list members.  If it does not pertain to you, you didn't even
have to open the message.  It was only directed at those who are interested.
Why did you even look at the contents if it's not your area of interest?  I
see many messages on this list that are not of particular interest to me;
and many others that are very interesting and broaden my knowledge.  I
personally am very grateful for the diversity, experience and intelligence
the list members provide.  I don't see how making certain topics off-limits
would be good for the list.

Or perhaps you are as opposed to the 1st. as much as to the 2nd.

Feel free to press the delete button, or if the free exchange of ideas is
too disturbing by all means exercise the nuclear option!

Best regards to all,

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
Kopchinski
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:09 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.

Jaime



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino
wrote:

>
>
> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>
>
>
> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>
>
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Jon Agne]

On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably need to 
> be out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house, in every car, 
> carry at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I also have thousands of 
> rounds of ammo. That link probably should not have been posted in the first 
> place but I just wanted to make it known I have a low tolerance for the gun 
> control crowd.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:23 PM, John Freer  wrote:
> 
>> And if it continues, I'm out of here!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 Ruger has a nice service on their site:
 
 
 
 http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[Gerry Archer]

I wonder how it's drag force compares to other production cars?  If the 
shape of the body lowers drag, its unique shape might be worthwhile. 
Couldn't find that spec anywhere.

Gerry

From: "ernest breakfield" 

how very Hyundai looking,...
cheers!
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Re: [MBZ] Skiing

[Gerry Archer]

Did you hit the tree face first or back first?
Gerry

From: "Mike Esh" 
No they do not grow back, the pieces are still floating around in there. 
Rehab was exercising the back muscles that were still attached. 
Repercussions are a slightly weaker back, however the other muscles seem 
to have taken over pretty well.  As I said earlier I was very lucky to 
have minimal injuries compared to many others who did not fare so well. 
Mike


On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  
wrote:

Will they grow back? If not what's the rehab like?

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Mike Esh  wrote:
> I broke the the little tabs (medical term) on the lower 4 lumbar 
> vertebrae. It's one place where the muscle that help support the lower 
> back.

> Michael E. Esh
> 231-286-2344
>
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
> wrote:

>> Sounds pretty awful. What'd you break?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Mike Esh  wrote:
>>> I did that back in 1986. Skiing in Vail, lost control, jumped a 
>>> catwalk and into a large tree (about 3' in diameter.) I got a free 
>>> trip down to emergency then 10 days in the Denver hospital. Walked 
>>> away from hospital very gingerly and have not been skiing since. I 
>>> was very lucky.

>>>
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 231-286-2344
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Michael Canfield  
>>> wrote:

>>>
 Is there anything to say other thanDUH!?

 Mike
 On Jan 10, 2013 1:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  
 wrote:


> No thanks - not interested in hitting a tree head-on at 60 mph..
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Gerry Archer 
> 

> wrote:
> 
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>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> From: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
>>>
>>> I didn't see a photo - what does it look like?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Gerry Archer 
>>> 

>>> wrote:

 Anyone been down the mountain in a Zorb?
> 
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[MBZ] CL Rip off of the week

[clay monroe]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/ctd/3465757848.html

Saw this at the auction last month.  Rolling bucket of junk.  Rust, mold, stink 
and deferred care.  Valve cover seal was silicone from a squirt tube.   A bunch 
of other questionable issues.  I do not think much work has been put into this. 
 Two guys bidding on it at auction.  Old dude and young guy.  Old dude was 
going to win and bid it up to $3500.  Was not worth that price even then.

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Re: [MBZ] O/T You Want Me to Land Where?!..

[Mountain Man]

Craig wrote:
> I noticed, though, that we have gone from having to have something that's
> 41 kB approved to having something that's 9.67 MB come straight to the
> list without having a link at the bottom of the sender's email.

I forwarded the video to someone else by finding it at youtube via
google search.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

If you think more gun control is going to fix anything you probably need to be 
out of here. I have a loaded gun in every room of my house, in every car, carry 
at least one loaded gun with me at all times. I also have thousands of rounds 
of ammo. That link probably should not have been posted in the first place but 
I just wanted to make it known I have a low tolerance for the gun control crowd.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:23 PM, John Freer  wrote:

> And if it continues, I'm out of here!
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
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>> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Max Dillon]

Why not propose / suggest a site that represents your point of view?
-- 
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

John Freer  wrote:

>And if it continues, I'm out of here!
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski 
>wrote:
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>> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino
>wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Jon Agne]

AGREE!!!


On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Greg
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Re: [MBZ] Spiddy has a new job, aligning nozzles

[Hendrik and fay]

That's a good idea, although I don't think it's debris in the nozzle 
that is my problem.


Hendrik
who wants the official factory tool for aligning nozzles

On 14/01/13 01:06, Gerry Archer wrote:
'83 300D window washer kept spraying in the wrong direction and I 
found that it was debris coming from the tank that caused it.  Put a 
very small fuel filter in line between the tank and and the nozzles 
and haven't had the problem since.

Gerry


On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/01/window-washers-dressed-up-as-spiderman-when-they-visited-a-childrens-hospital/ 


Hendrik
who is wondering why a window washer nozzle on the Merc got out of 
alignment





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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[John Freer]

And if it continues, I'm out of here!

Sent from my iPad

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> I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Jaime Kopchinski]

I'm sorry, but I don't think this belongs on this list.

Jaime



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

>
>
> Ruger has a nice service on their site:
>
>
>
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>
>
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[MBZ] OT: RKBA

[Greg Fiorentino]

 

Ruger has a nice service on their site:

 

http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[ernest breakfield]

how very Hyundai looking,...


cheers!
e


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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz - CLA250

[WILTON]

STARTING at $30k; don't be surprised that the bottom line may be $50k or 
more.  ;<)


Wilton

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On Jan 14, 2013 8:23 AM, "Chris James"  wrote:


The projected $30K starting price
sounds nice, maybe some of us will
finally be able to afford a new M-B
now!


It's FWD, blech.  Might as well buy a loaded Jetta diesel.

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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[Rich Thomas]

Hyundai seems pretty good at designing Benzes.

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On 1/14/13 12:19 PM, G Mann wrote:

Gwad that is ugly... who makes it? Surely it could not be a Mercedes.
  Looks like a Jap rice rocket or any other Eurotrash. To bad Mercedes
stopped making cars.

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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz - CLA250

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Jan 14, 2013 8:23 AM, "Chris James"  wrote:
>
> The projected $30K starting price
> sounds nice, maybe some of us will
> finally be able to afford a new M-B
> now!

It's FWD, blech.  Might as well buy a loaded Jetta diesel.

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Re: [MBZ] Skiing

[Mike Esh]

No they do not grow back, the pieces are still floating around in there.  Rehab was exercising the back muscles that were still attached.  Repercussions are a slightly weaker back, however the other muscles seem to have taken over pretty well.  As I said earlier I was very lucky to have minimal injuries compared to many others who did not fare so well. 


Mike








On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:


Will they grow back? If not what's the rehab like?

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Mike Esh  wrote:
> I broke the the little tabs (medical term) on the lower 4 lumbar vertebrae. 
It's one place where the muscle that help support the lower back.
>
>
> Michael E. Esh
> 231-286-2344
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>
>> Sounds pretty awful. What'd you break?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Mike Esh  wrote:
>>> I did that back in 1986. Skiing in Vail, lost control, jumped a catwalk and 
into a large tree (about 3' in diameter.) I got a free trip down to emergency then 10 
days in the Denver hospital. Walked away from hospital very gingerly and have not been 
skiing since. I was very lucky.
>>>
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 231-286-2344
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Michael Canfield  wrote:
>>>
 Is there anything to say other thanDUH!?

 Mike
 On Jan 10, 2013 1:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> No thanks - not interested in hitting a tree head-on at 60 mph..
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Gerry Archer 
> wrote:
> 
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=zorb+ball&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=zorb+ball&sc=8-9&sp=-1&sk=
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> From: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
>>>
>>> I didn't see a photo - what does it look like?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Gerry Archer 
>>> wrote:

 Anyone been down the mountain in a Zorb?
> 
http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2020088090_apeurussiazorbingdeath.html

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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz

[G Mann]

Gwad that is ugly... who makes it? Surely it could not be a Mercedes.
 Looks like a Jap rice rocket or any other Eurotrash. To bad Mercedes
stopped making cars.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - another electrical question

[Randy Bennell]

That would work for me but I would have to come up with a new cover for 
the current set of switches as my good wife would not be pleased if it 
just had another switch.


Randy

On 11/01/2013 5:06 PM, clay monroe wrote:

Bypass the board, go with a simple on/off switch for the lights at full power.  
Cost is under $5, it performs, though not as designed, but works.

clay


On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


Anyone have any good advice in regard to range hoods?

We have a Broan unit. Maybe 5 to 10 years old.

I cannot recall the model but it is the curved one rather than the old boxy one 
and it has 2 small halogen flood light type bulbs and a panel on the face with 
push buttons for 3 levels of fan speed and 3 levels of light.

Unfortunately, it would appear that the electronic board has suffered a 
failure. There was a flash like someone was taking a photo and now the lights 
will not work.
The fan still works fine on all 3 speeds.

We had an issue once before about 2 years ago when a bulb burned out and I was 
putting a new one it. It went dead but that time it was a fuse which was 
readily replaced once we took off enough part to get to the board itself. I 
assumed I had done something while putting in the new bulb but maybe not.

The gist of all this is that the replacement board is going to cost about $200 
and the whole hood only cost something like $300.

So, I have some  choices.

I can replace the whole thing but that is a bit of a pain because it is ducted 
outside and I will have to get the thing out and the new one in. If so, I may 
swap to a Bosch. A bit more expensive but it looks to be simpler.

I can replace the board and hope they have improved it. The new one has a 
different # so I assume this may not be an isolated incident. Warranty of 
course is long over.

3rd choice - and this one appeals to me as a frugal sort - is to find a way to 
make the lights work without their board. Should basically be doable as the 
board just facilitates the 3 light levels. I could readily hook them up full 
power as I doubt we use the dimmed functions much anyway - or I could put in a 
dimmer switch that would provide variable light. The bigger issue with that is 
where to mount the dimmer etc. SWMBO is not impressed with my frugal idea and 
is concerned that I may make some Rube Goldberg contraption I guess.

So, I solicit your thoughts on the matter.

Randy who is going to have to make a decision shortly to keep you know who happy

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Re: [MBZ] OT Range hood again

[Randy Bennell]

I will have a look in the "manual" that came with it. I think there may 
be a schematic of the wiring.


Randy

On 11/01/2013 4:51 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Any way you can get a schematic for it, even if it doesn't cover the circuit 
board?

That would go a long way to determine whether or not it's replaceable with 
something analog.

Dan


On Jan 11, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


The one thing I forgot to mention was that I would not mind getting rid of the 
control board altogether.
However that would then mean I need to have some other means of varying the fan 
speed as we do use all 3 ranges on that function.

Is this likely the sort of motor that would permit variation on a rheostat of 
some sort?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] A new Benz - CLA250

[Chris James]

It was rumored the revel of the '14 CLA would be part of the NAIAS, but 
there was an invitation only showing last night which was the only time 
it will make an appearance this week (in the US at least).


We will have to wait until late summer or fall for it to hit dealerships 
here. The projected $30K starting price sounds nice, maybe some of us 
will finally be able to afford a new M-B now! The 2.0 turbo 4cyl & 7spd 
auto is the only combo that will be offered to start. AMG & 4matic 
models to follow.



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[MBZ] A new Benz

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Re: [MBZ] Skiing

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Will they grow back?  If not what's the rehab like?

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Mike Esh  wrote:
> I broke the the little tabs (medical term) on the lower 4 lumbar vertebrae.  
> It's one place where the muscle that help support the lower back.
>
>
> Michael E. Esh
> 231-286-2344
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>
>> Sounds pretty awful.  What'd you break?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Mike Esh  wrote:
>>> I did that back in 1986.  Skiing in Vail, lost control, jumped a catwalk 
>>> and into a large tree (about 3' in diameter.) I got a free trip down to 
>>> emergency then 10 days in the Denver hospital. Walked away from hospital 
>>> very gingerly and have not been skiing since. I was very lucky.
>>>
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 231-286-2344
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Michael Canfield  wrote:
>>>
 Is there anything to say other thanDUH!?

 Mike
 On Jan 10, 2013 1:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> No thanks - not interested in hitting a tree head-on at 60 mph..
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Gerry Archer 
> wrote:
> http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=zorb+ball&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=zorb+ball&sc=8-9&sp=-1&sk=
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> From: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
>>>
>>> I didn't see a photo - what does it look like?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Gerry Archer 
>>> wrote:

 Anyone been down the mountain in a Zorb?
> http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2020088090_apeurussiazorbingdeath.html

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Re: [MBZ] ignition switch wires on 1984 300D turbo and other problem

[Andrew Strasfogel]

The wipers are switched to the ignition.  Did they stop working after
the MM change or after the ignition replacement?

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Rick Hawkins Java  wrote:
> Folks,
>
> If you remember, a month or so ago, i pulled the plug off of the back of the
> ignition switch of Daughter's 84  300D turbo and opened the plug and mixed
> all the wires up. I opened the plug because the wires are a bit cobbled
> together and spliced.
>
> We some difficulty i sorted them as below to the various terminals  i
> hope the color codes are correct
>
>
> P30  green/white
>
> 15R green/red
>
> 50  violet/white
>
> 30 red
>
> 15x red/yellow
>
> 30 red again
>
> 15 red/black
>
> anyway, i solved the problem of the switch not actuating the starter by
> changing the ignition lock cylinder, the old one wouldn't turn to the start
> position
>
> THEN we addressed another problem, that of a collapsed engine mount.
> Amazingly, all of the allen screws came out easily, probably because the
> entire area had been soaked in ATF since i had some bad power steering
> hoses, one supply and one pressure line that i replaced.
>
> Daughter and i easily replaced the left engine mount.
>
> NOW there is a new problem  the radio doesn't work and the windshield
> wipers don't work
>
> everything else seems to work
>
> i did check the wiper fues (#6 if my memory is correct)
>
> ideas?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] The Dangerous list poster

[Jon Agne]

Best food was in Puerto de Santa Maria.


On Jan 13, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

> Yes, Rota is very nice, but more expensive now with the Euro.  Some of my 
> favorite meals have been in Rota...
> 
> Lajes was a cool place to visit for a couple days, stranded there for a but 
> during a Space-A hop.
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> 
> Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> Orion
>> 
>> Iceland - 6 months
>> Rota - 6 months
>> Lajes - 6 months
>> Scotland
>> Oslo
>> Crete
>> and assorted other places of luxury.
>> 
>> (Rota was my favorite)
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
>> 
>>> War Hoover?  Orion?
>>> -- 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>>> 
>>> Jon Agne  wrote:
>>> 
 No.
 
 On Jan 13, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
 
> Cool, did you fly Tomcats?
> -- 
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> 
> Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> The key words are below...
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> US Naval Aviator 1983-1991
>> Delta Air Lines 1991-present
>> 
>> '85 300D - 102k
>> '68 250S 
>> '69 280SE - parts
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>> 
>>> AND TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE, 
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Re: [MBZ] US government advises computer users to disable Java software

[John Reames]

Disabling Java is a non-starter for anyone doing business with the federal 
courts; Electronic Case Filing (ECF) is a Java web-app.  Version 5.1 (which may 
still be out there) requires Java 6 (not 7!). (Version 5.2 adds support for 
Java 7)

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> On Jan 13, 2013 10:06 AM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:
>> 
>> Java has a long
>> history of security problems and I
>> would advise removing it from your
>> computer entirely if you don't
>> need it, then you never have to worry
>> about it again.
> 
> I keep it on just one machine so I can run the online EPC.
> 
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