Re: [MBZ] Spraying W124 multi-function switch
It has been nearly a decade. Perhaps I was thinking of the cruise stalk trim piece thought the main stalk may of had a similar plastic piece. Regardless, there is enough room to spray it. http://www.peachparts.com/diy/w124comboswitch/40.jpg On 3/8/2013 1:31 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: The stalk has to swing, so either there's a rubber flex boot on it or there's more than enough room to stick a skinny squirt tube in there. Mitch. OK, enough talk! :) Craig, let us know how you make out! -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
I thought you had a special wrench to measure the 90 degree rotations. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: I didn't use anything fancy at all. I just used the $40 digital torque wrench adapter from HF. I read a recent review about this showing it was just as precise (in some cases more) than others. Looks it on sale! http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-torue-adapter-68283.html Sent from my ASUS Pad Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I only drove it a couple hundred miles and parked it. Sometimes the upper radiator hose would stay pressurized after the engine cooled, so I'm suspicious that either the head is bad, the gasket is bad, or I didn't properly torque the head bolts. I'd love to borrow that fancy torque wrench that Rolf used, and re-torque my head bolts. I'm also concerned about a problem with one of the hydraulic lifters. You may recall that I had to bleed one down to get full valve closure for one valve. When I fixed that, I discovered that the bore for the intake valve lifter for the number six cylinder has a problem. The bottom half of the bore is too big, looks like it was eroded away. The lifter can get cocked in the bore, making it very hard to remove. At first I thought that some grit must have contaminated that bore during my work, and wore out the bottom half. After talking with a machinist, he explained that is not possible. If grit had contaminated the bore, it would have scored all of the bore equally, not just the lower half, and the scoring would look nothing like erosion. He thinks it is a casting flaw, and had probably been there from the factory. I'm worried that eventually the lifter will get cocked so bad it will break the camshaft. So I'm going to dive in again soon, work has finally slowed a little so I'm not traveling every week, but I'm not too happy about pulling the head off again. I really wish there was an oversize repair lifter, do I could machine out the bore to restore it and keep this head. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Max, what's the latest with your 300TD? You had a head prob; is that solved; is it running, etc.? Is the E300's cooing sys (cabin) OK? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Botch job cause Stu said so
I have no problems with the fan clutch or the cooling system. In this climate you want everything to be working at its peak, as efficiencies really kick in when you have 98F ambients with 100% humidity, that's all. It has been my understanding that the fluid can leak out slowly over the life if the vehicle, so I would expect that on a vehicle that is approaching 20 years and nearly 250,000 miles that the fan clutch is probably in need of being topped off. It has also been my finding that the oil used is 10,000 CST, so that is what I will use to top off. Thanks, Hendrick. I will also be installing an 1.1k ohm resistor across the fan sensor to lower the aux fan threshold to around 90C or thereabouts. All of this is proactive in anticipation of the normal summer temps around here, that's all. A flush and fill with the new blue coolant and a new thermostat while I'm there, too. Dan who wishes to be cool this summer On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Typically a bad visco clutch results in rising temps sitting in slow traffic or stopped that goes back down quickly when moving. While technically not overheating when the temp goes up to say 110, here in the sweat belt, lack of airflow over the condenser means you sit in a hot, damp car sweating at slow speeds, which is very uncomfortable. With the visco clutch working and the rest of the cooling system in good shape, the temp should not go above 85 unless it's REALLY hot outside. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
Max Dillon wrote: I thought you had a special wrench to measure the 90 degree rotations. Snap-On has one of those. Or you can paint 4 lines or arrows on your socket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
How many million mpg you think you're gonna get? I think 35mpg while running around LA at 85mph (which means half the time at 85mph and half at zero sitting stuck in traffic) is pretty good. If I were somewhere flat like Florida or if I didn't have to sit in traffic or didn't run so fast I bet it'd be easy to get 40mpg. EPA estimate is 39. Remember I was driving a rental car while on a corporate expense account, I was having fun, not maximizing mileage. AFAIK all Fiestas are 4 cyl engines, mine was an automatic which is a dual clutch system sort of like VW uses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_PowerShift_transmission -Curt Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:01:54 -0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please Message-ID: 0856E474FD29461A82622041ABD28BEF@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original For years I've heard that Fiestas get high mpg. Was yours a 2012? Was it four cylinders and stickshift? Thanks, Gerry.who is thinking about getting a high mpg gasser but is leery of the Toyos. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com If you decide to go new you could save a little money with a Fiesta. I was well pleased with the one I had last week. 35mpg as I absolutely thrashed it in LA traffic. Would certainly do better driven moderately in a less hilly area. Big enough, comfortable enough, more than enough power. On the way back to the airport I found myself doing 80mph without realizing it, the engine didn't seem buzzy or concerned with the speed at all. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Howard, Thanks for joining the fray in our little group. It is always good to have perspective form other parts of the world. You guys get more interesting choices in cars and options than what the MomBUSA bowties let us have here. But we got the 300SDL that nobody but NA and Japan got. Howard Bath England '97 200E 5-speed manual, 108256 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
Haven't driven it very far, didn't see any coolant loss yet. Head is a #20, was pressure checked by machine shop prior to installation, so I would really doubt that, but that is the must common reason for pressurized cooling system. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Ugh, that means you may have a cracked head. Not a good deal. Does it use coolant? If not, probably not a cracked head. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - SONDYREINDEER
OK; it's Friday - time for a moo -- ah, ah reindeer tale: SONDY REINDEER By Wilton Strickland In 1978, at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, I occasionally drove up a VERY steep ice/packed snow and ice road (first photo link below) with fine gravel sprinkled on top of it to a plateau and hills above the base to view some countryside and observe a small herd of reindeer (caribou , 2nd photo link below) that lived there. I'd pull up beside several of them 3 or 4 feet away and admire/study the way they scratched away snow covering their food (dry grass), take a bite, chew, etc. None of them ever showed any fear at all of me; 'went up to see them one afternoon, and found two reindeer heads lying by the road. 'Few days later, my Danish contractor chief engineer invited me to his home one evening for dinner - 'had some mighty fine reindeer stew. Also of special interest up in this area was the rounded top of a hill where a glacier and the ice cap, then visible on the horizon about 15 miles away, had polished a large area of granite to a mirror finish. 'Enjoyed driving my truck up onto it and watching my many visitors, including a couple of USAF generals, other military and civilian officials from headquarters and Danish, Canadian and Swedish government officials ponder the awesomeness of the time and power of grains of sand and fine powder-like sand combined with ice under tremendous pressure and its imperceptible movements to perform such a task. (edge of glacier/ice cap in 3rd 4th photo links below) BTW, I was never so bold or foolish as to drive up onto or try to stand on the mirror-like granite when it was wet. BTW, getting back down the VERY steep road, especially in winter was puckering - entailed constant pumping of brakes to keep truck from getting too fast and careening or slipping on ice off cliff, etc. See 5th photo link below - summertime hill descent. (Photo really does not do it justice - it is STEEP; seems even steeper on ice.) 1 http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3184/2944195465_1a35be8a5f_z.jpg 2 http://www.malmquist-site.com/caribou.jpg 3 http://tinghuus.com/graphics/om_gns.jpg 4 http://www.vacationreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/greenland.jpg 5 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Tacan_near_Kangerlussuaq_%289%29.JPG Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
I may try something along those lines, attach a pointer to the socket and lay a 90 degree guide on the head. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Max Dillon wrote: I thought you had a special wrench to measure the 90 degree rotations. Snap-On has one of those. Or you can paint 4 lines or arrows on your socket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spraying W124 multi-function switch
Just looked at my car, there is a small piece of trim at the base of the stalk that must be pried off. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: It has been nearly a decade. Perhaps I was thinking of the cruise stalk trim piece thought the main stalk may of had a similar plastic piece. Regardless, there is enough room to spray it. http://www.peachparts.com/diy/w124comboswitch/40.jpg On 3/8/2013 1:31 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: The stalk has to swing, so either there's a rubber flex boot on it or there's more than enough room to stick a skinny squirt tube in there. Mitch. OK, enough talk! :) Craig, let us know how you make out! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Stay with us, Howard, you can help Hendrik (Aussie mate) set us straight when we get on the wrong side of things. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Italian car Howard, Thanks for joining the fray in our little group. It is always good to have perspective form other parts of the world. You guys get more interesting choices in cars and options than what the MomBUSA bowties let us have here. But we got the 300SDL that nobody but NA and Japan got. Howard Bath England '97 200E 5-speed manual, 108256 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spraying W124 multi-function switch
Thank you for checking Max. I could have almost sworn there was a trim piece there on my '94. :) On 3/8/2013 1:12 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Just looked at my car, there is a small piece of trim at the base of the stalk that must be pried off. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
That is a good idea. You can feel the bolts yield. To my thinking, if you get 85 or 95 º of turn, as long as you feel the bolt yield, it won't make that much difference. So I don't think you have to be that accurate. Loren I may try something along those lines, attach a pointer to the socket and lay a 90 degree guide on the head. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Max Dillon wrote: I thought you had a special wrench to measure the 90 degree rotations. Snap-On has one of those. Or you can paint 4 lines or arrows on your socket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
So should I pull one bolt at a time, measure stretch to make sure it is still within spec, then torque in the three stages without the ten minute wait before the last 90 degree turn, or do I need to keep the wait? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: That is a good idea. You can feel the bolts yield. To my thinking, if you get 85 or 95 º of turn, as long as you feel the bolt yield, it won't make that much difference. So I don't think you have to be that accurate. Loren I may try something along those lines, attach a pointer to the socket and lay a 90 degree guide on the head. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Max Dillon wrote: I thought you had a special wrench to measure the 90 degree rotations. Snap-On has one of those. Or you can paint 4 lines or arrows on your socket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
No, that is not what I am saying at all. Follow the book procedure. On a normal bolt, the more you turn it, the tighter it gets. On the stretch bolts, as you make the two 90º turns per the book , at some point in the turn it no longer takes increasing power as the bolt turns. This means you have reached the point of elasticity of the bolt. (as designed to do) This is when the bolt stretches. WHat you feel on the handle is a more or less linear increase of force, then a levelling off. On the second turn, the last 30-40 º of turn is typically stretch. You only measure the stretch when you take them out of the head. Or are you asking about retorquing? I have never seen an instruction for retorquing. If you want to retorque one at a time, then yes, I think you can pull, measure, then retorque. I am not sure about the 10 min wait. You could do all of them fhe first 90, then wait 10, and do the second turn on all and still satisfy the book without removing the head. You could also try a rudimentary Cyl head leakage test. through the inj hole or the GP hole to see if you can hear any leaks. So should I pull one bolt at a time, measure stretch to make sure it is still within spec, then torque in the three stages without the ten minute wait before the last 90 degree turn, or do I need to keep the wait? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: That is a good idea. You can feel the bolts yield. To my thinking, if you get 85 or 95 º of turn, as long as you feel the bolt yield, it won't make that much difference. So I don't think you have to be that accurate. Loren I may try something along those lines, attach a pointer to the socket and lay a 90 degree guide on the head. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Max Dillon wrote: I thought you had a special wrench to measure the 90 degree rotations. Snap-On has one of those. Or you can paint 4 lines or arrows on your socket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
Just got back from the local Ford dealer where I looked at a 2012 Focus with 20K miles. The salesman is supposed to call me the out-the-door price on it. Saw a customers 2012 Fiesta which I assume was what you drove in LA. He has a used Fiesta in a close by dealer lot which I will stop and look at next time I go there. 35 mpg is about as good average mileage for a non-hybrid gas burner and the Fiesta is appealing since it looks like it would be fun to drive; sort of like the old Beetles were fun to drive. How did it handle on the high speed roads? Was it rough riding? Would you make a long trip in it? Thanks, Gerry P.S. Dan, if you're reading this could you tell me what kind of gas mileage you got on your Focus'? Thanks, Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com I think 35mpg while running around LA at 85mph (which means half the time at 85mph and half at zero sitting stuck in traffic) is pretty good. If I were somewhere flat like Florida or if I didn't have to sit in traffic or didn't run so fast I bet it'd be easy to get 40mpg. EPA estimate is 39. Remember I was driving a rental car while on a corporate expense account, I was having fun, not maximizing mileage. AFAIK all Fiestas are 4 cyl engines, mine was an automatic which is a dual clutch system sort of like VW uses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_PowerShift_transmission -Curt Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:01:54 -0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please Message-ID: 0856E474FD29461A82622041ABD28BEF@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original For years I've heard that Fiestas get high mpg. Was yours a 2012? Was it four cylinders and stickshift? Thanks, Gerry.who is thinking about getting a high mpg gasser but is leery of the Toyos. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com If you decide to go new you could save a little money with a Fiesta. I was well pleased with the one I had last week. 35mpg as I absolutely thrashed it in LA traffic. Would certainly do better driven moderately in a less hilly area. Big enough, comfortable enough, more than enough power. On the way back to the airport I found myself doing 80mph without realizing it, the engine didn't seem buzzy or concerned with the speed at all. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5657 - Release Date: 03/08/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Like every time we drive? ;-) On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Stay with us, Howard, you can help Hendrik (Aussie mate) set us straight when we get on the wrong side of things. ;) Wilton -- OK Don 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
NO! - Loosen the bolts in the pattern in the book - then re-torque/stretch them per the book. Do not pull out the bolts one at a time - at the risk of warping the head. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: So should I pull one bolt at a time, measure stretch to make sure it is still within spec, then torque in the three stages without the ten minute wait before the last 90 degree turn, or do I need to keep the wait? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 -- OK Don 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
On 08/03/2013 2:33 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Just got back from the local Ford dealer where I looked at a 2012 Focus with 20K miles. The salesman is supposed to call me the out-the-door price on it. Saw a customers 2012 Fiesta which I assume was what you drove in LA. He has a used Fiesta in a close by dealer lot which I will stop and look at next time I go there. 35 mpg is about as good average mileage for a non-hybrid gas burner and the Fiesta is appealing since it looks like it would be fun to drive; sort of like the old Beetles were fun to drive. How did it handle on the high speed roads? Was it rough riding? Would you make a long trip in it? Thanks, Gerry P.S. Dan, if you're reading this could you tell me what kind of gas mileage you got on your Focus'? Thanks, Gerry How does the cost to purchase compare with a same vintage Honda Civic? I don't know what it is like where you folks are, but around here a Ford of any sort will depreciate much faster than a Honda and the Honda will be pretty bullet proof for a lot of miles. Based upon that, if I could buy a Honda for similar money up front, I would go with it as it will likely be worth more in a few years time than the Ford. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca On 08/03/2013 2:33 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Just got back from the local Ford dealer where I looked at a 2012 Focus with 20K miles. The salesman is supposed to call me the out-the-door price on it. Saw a customers 2012 Fiesta which I assume was what you drove in LA. He has a used Fiesta in a close by dealer lot which I will stop and look at next time I go there. 35 mpg is about as good average mileage for a non-hybrid gas burner and the Fiesta is appealing since it looks like it would be fun to drive; sort of like the old Beetles were fun to drive. How did it handle on the high speed roads? Was it rough riding? Would you make a long trip in it? Thanks, Gerry P.S. Dan, if you're reading this could you tell me what kind of gas mileage you got on your Focus'? Thanks, Gerry How does the cost to purchase compare with a same vintage Honda Civic? I don't know what it is like where you folks are, but around here a Ford of any sort will depreciate much faster than a Honda and the Honda will be pretty bullet proof for a lot of miles. Based upon that, if I could buy a Honda for similar money up front, I would go with it as it will likely be worth more in a few years time than the Ford. Randy Around here Hondas cost more than an equivalent size Ford and don't get close to the same fuel mileage. Grand daughter has an Accord that she's been happy with for 4 or 5 years. I drove it but didn't like it. Honda was once a reliability champ but lately they have slipped, or so I've read. I've looked at Hondas and Toyotas and I'm not happy with the local dealers whose salesmen feel they are doing you a favor by waiting on you. Son bought a Ford (I forget the name) hybrid two years ago and he's racked up about 60K miles with no repairs. He averages about 37-43 mpg but it's a heavier car. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Early diagnostic system
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 16:16:01 +1030 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://ozbenz.net/download/file.php?id=13777mode=view You are not authorised to download this attachment. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Early diagnostic system
Works for me if I turn my computer upside down so they think I'm in Oz. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 16:16:01 +1030 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://ozbenz.net/download/file.php?id=13777mode=view You are not authorised to download this attachment. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
On 08/03/2013 3:40 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: How does the cost to purchase compare with a same vintage Honda Civic? I don't know what it is like where you folks are, but around here a Ford of any sort will depreciate much faster than a Honda and the Honda will be pretty bullet proof for a lot of miles. Based upon that, if I could buy a Honda for similar money up front, I would go with it as it will likely be worth more in a few years time than the Ford. Randy Around here Hondas cost more than an equivalent size Ford and don't get close to the same fuel mileage. Grand daughter has an Accord that she's been happy with for 4 or 5 years. I drove it but didn't like it. Honda was once a reliability champ but lately they have slipped, or so I've read. I've looked at Hondas and Toyotas and I'm not happy with the local dealers whose salesmen feel they are doing you a favor by waiting on you. Son bought a Ford (I forget the name) hybrid two years ago and he's racked up about 60K miles with no repairs. He averages about 37-43 mpg but it's a heavier car. Gerry ___ My wife has a 2007 Honda Accord with the 4 cylinder. Not sure exactly what the fuel mileage is as I don't drive it and she does not bother to keep track. We bought it used with about 23K miles on it and have done nothing apart from change the oil so far as I can recall. She loves it. I think it was only about a year old when we got it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Early diagnostic system
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:16:38 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Works for me if I turn my computer upside down so they think I'm in Oz. In both SeaMonkey and Firefox I get the same message. Craig Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 16:16:01 +1030 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://ozbenz.net/download/file.php?id=13777mode=view You are not authorised to download this attachment. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 117 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi (awaiting parting out) '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (leaking diesel from somewhere in the engine compartment) Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Early diagnostic system
I believe he is pointing at John Green's MB web site Down Under: http://ozbenz.net/index.php John is a great guy and very helpful. He once helped me source a ignition coil for a Mitsubishi industrial engine that is not marketed in the States. Cost me $USD 35 complete with shipping, and made the difference between no engine and a $2600 distributor from the US supplier... Dan On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:16:38 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Works for me if I turn my computer upside down so they think I'm in Oz. In both SeaMonkey and Firefox I get the same message. Craig Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 16:16:01 +1030 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://ozbenz.net/download/file.php?id=13777mode=view You are not authorised to download this attachment. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320 Sebastian 117 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi (awaiting parting out) '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (leaking diesel from somewhere in the engine compartment) Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Funny that you should mention Moog; I once had a Mitsubishi Precis, and the Moog parts that I bought all bore HMC stamps; that is made in Seoul, Hyundai Motor Corp. (Not all that strange, considering that the Precis was a rebadged Excel, also available as a Dodge Colt...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:29, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually General Parts sold Car Quest or rather most of the Car Quest stores to Advance early this year. The nice thing about my local CQ is they've got a lot of what I need in stock, front wheel bearings, oil filter, fuel filter etc. And most other stuff they can have tomorrow morning at no extra charge. Suspension parts I've bought from them are usually marked Moog, made in the USA which I appreciate. -Curt Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 02:42:43 + From: buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Message-ID: 1615751195-1362624076-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1130564557-@b18.c4.bise6.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Curt, WorldPac owns Car Quest so Trent can drop ship all that as well. Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry? -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sender: Mercedes mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:31:55 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning And often the parts listed are simply not available at any price. I shall order some from Trent but will probably rely more on my local Car Quest. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
I'll give Trent a shot; he does own and drive German car(s), and is willing to do homework (poring over the MB EPC to learn a bit about it and how it works this weekend) The EPC is of high enough quality to make a convert out of people IMHO! -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 6, 2013, at 21:31, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And often the parts listed are simply not available at any price. I shall order some from Trent but will probably rely more on my local Car Quest. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:33:09 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Message-ID: 7714a67c-5e3e-42b1-8a4c-5b234abfe...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Autohaus had awful service. The people who man the phones don't know or give a damn about our cars and they are awkward and rude. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
I'll give Trent a shot; he does own and drive German car(s), and is willing to do homework (poring over the MB EPC to learn a bit about it and how it works this weekend) The EPC is of high enough quality to make a convert out of people IMHO! -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 I doubt Mr. Q would have entrusted his baby to just anyone waving money. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
#1 son retiring from USMC at Cherry Point, pilot, major. Vacation also. We all saw him into Norwich, Parris Island, Quantico etc. First in last out. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Golfing, buying, boating or all of the above? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Where in NC? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Dimitri. Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back Sun/Mon. Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German m/cyl fill ports. Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all over because they had perished and failed. TTFN. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really used it yet. Will you be around this Sunday to meet up? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
I- 95 most of the way, in 2 or 3 easy stages. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Do you go I-95, I-795, US 70, etc., via Goldsboro? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control push-button unit dis-assembly?
many thanks to all those who responded on and off list for the pictures and links! i'm confident i'll be able to get it apart this weekend and into the capable hands of someone actually competent with soldering next week. with any luck at all, i'll have normally functioning Climate Control again next weekend! cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Pictures
Wilton. Is the aircraft in the first picture a Laker? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pictures
'Don't know; I didn't take the photo; 'does look vaguely familiar as such, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] Pictures Wilton. Is the aircraft in the first picture a Laker? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
If you're passing through/near Goldsboro on I-795 and US-70, maybe we could meet for little while, have lunch, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? I- 95 most of the way, in 2 or 3 easy stages. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Do you go I-95, I-795, US 70, etc., via Goldsboro? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
Tell 'im I said, Congratulations! 'Wish 'im well. BTW, time goes too fast; I retired from Air Force 31+ years ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? #1 son retiring from USMC at Cherry Point, pilot, major. Vacation also. We all saw him into Norwich, Parris Island, Quantico etc. First in last out. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Golfing, buying, boating or all of the above? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Where in NC? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Dimitri. Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back Sun/Mon. Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German m/cyl fill ports. Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all over because they had perished and failed. TTFN. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really used it yet. Will you be around this Sunday to meet up? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
crap for keeping our older rides on the road On Mar 6, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Parts.com Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have not ordered from them but I know people that have, not saying who, and have had great luck with them On 3/6/2013 7:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Autohaus had awful service. My one big question will be if BuyMBParts (Trent) will be willing and able to get dealer parts? At a reasonable price? If not, what are the alternatives? My local dealer parts guy doesn't seem to old car/old guy friendly. Maybe I should buy him lunch... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Eckler has the same product but better prices clay On Mar 6, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Thats a good point, Kaleb... Gary is a good choice here. One thing he does better than anyone else: hes good at figuring out what parts are quality, and which are Chinese junk. This is changing frequently and isn't obvious as it once was. He actually cares about it. I buy lots of stuff from my local dealer, but everything else comes from Gary. http://buyeuroparts.com/ Jaime On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Go Jabba On 3/6/2013 12:34 PM, WILTON wrote: In mourning for loss of Rusty here. 'Wish 'im well in his new endeavors. Thanks for your many years of expert help to all of us, Rusty. Welcome aboard to Trent, Q, Jr. Wilton __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6125 - Release Date: 02/23/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
He drives German cars? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:38 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I'll give Trent a shot; he does own and drive German car(s), and is willing to do homework (poring over the MB EPC to learn a bit about it and how it works this weekend) The EPC is of high enough quality to make a convert out of people IMHO! -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 6, 2013, at 21:31, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And often the parts listed are simply not available at any price. I shall order some from Trent but will probably rely more on my local Car Quest. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:33:09 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Message-ID: 7714a67c-5e3e-42b1-8a4c-5b234abfe...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Autohaus had awful service. The people who man the phones don't know or give a damn about our cars and they are awkward and rude. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
Ok, but why? Removing and re-torquing one bolt at a time doesn't seem like a recipe for warping the head. There are twenty-two of them! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: NO! - Loosen the bolts in the pattern in the book - then re-torque/stretch them per the book. Do not pull out the bolts one at a time - at the risk of warping the head. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: So should I pull one bolt at a time, measure stretch to make sure it is still within spec, then torque in the three stages without the ten minute wait before the last 90 degree turn, or do I need to keep the wait? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
Congrats all around! Landed at Cherry Point once. While waiting for a cab to a rental car office, Blue Angels refueled. They made refueling into a show, even though their only audience were the handful of enlisted guys manning the fuel hoses (and my wife and I, but we were unplanned and out of sight). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: #1 son retiring from USMC at Cherry Point, pilot, major. Vacation also. We all saw him into Norwich, Parris Island, Quantico etc. First in last out. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Golfing, buying, boating or all of the above? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Where in NC? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Dimitri. Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back Sun/Mon. Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German m/cyl fill ports. Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all over because they had perished and failed. TTFN. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really used it yet. Will you be around this Sunday to meet up? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
OK, someone help me. I came back from several days off the grid and find numerous list emails talking about Rusty either ascending to Papal office, retiring, passing the business to someone I don't yet know, or is it all list humor?? The facts Mam.. Just the facts Grant... AZ... On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 5:32 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Funny that you should mention Moog; I once had a Mitsubishi Precis, and the Moog parts that I bought all bore HMC stamps; that is made in Seoul, Hyundai Motor Corp. (Not all that strange, considering that the Precis was a rebadged Excel, also available as a Dodge Colt...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:29, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually General Parts sold Car Quest or rather most of the Car Quest stores to Advance early this year. The nice thing about my local CQ is they've got a lot of what I need in stock, front wheel bearings, oil filter, fuel filter etc. And most other stuff they can have tomorrow morning at no extra charge. Suspension parts I've bought from them are usually marked Moog, made in the USA which I appreciate. -Curt Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 02:42:43 + From: buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Message-ID: 1615751195-1362624076-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1130564557-@b18.c4.bise6.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Curt, WorldPac owns Car Quest so Trent can drop ship all that as well. Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry? -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sender: Mercedes mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:31:55 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning And often the parts listed are simply not available at any price. I shall order some from Trent but will probably rely more on my local Car Quest. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
#1 son retiring from USMC at Cherry Point, pilot, major. Vacation also. We all saw him into Norwich, Parris Island, Quantico etc. First in last out. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. Congrats to you and him both. Thank him for his service. Semper Fi! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For Grant: BuyMBparts , Inc. Press Announcement
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Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Rusty has sold his business to Trent Fiorino (Q, Jr.) and gone corporate - working for World Pac. Today was Rusty's last day. Therefore, we've been in morning over the loss of Rusty for 2 or 3 days since he gave us the shocking news. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning OK, someone help me. I came back from several days off the grid and find numerous list emails talking about Rusty either ascending to Papal office, retiring, passing the business to someone I don't yet know, or is it all list humor?? The facts Mam.. Just the facts Grant... AZ... On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 5:32 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Funny that you should mention Moog; I once had a Mitsubishi Precis, and the Moog parts that I bought all bore HMC stamps; that is made in Seoul, Hyundai Motor Corp. (Not all that strange, considering that the Precis was a rebadged Excel, also available as a Dodge Colt...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:29, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually General Parts sold Car Quest or rather most of the Car Quest stores to Advance early this year. The nice thing about my local CQ is they've got a lot of what I need in stock, front wheel bearings, oil filter, fuel filter etc. And most other stuff they can have tomorrow morning at no extra charge. Suspension parts I've bought from them are usually marked Moog, made in the USA which I appreciate. -Curt Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 02:42:43 + From: buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Message-ID: 1615751195-1362624076-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1130564557-@b18.c4.bise6.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Curt, WorldPac owns Car Quest so Trent can drop ship all that as well. Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry? -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sender: Mercedes mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:31:55 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning And often the parts listed are simply not available at any price. I shall order some from Trent but will probably rely more on my local Car Quest. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
How does the cost to purchase compare with a same vintage Honda Civic? I don't know what it is like where you folks are, but around here a Ford of any sort will depreciate much faster than a Honda and the Honda will be pretty bullet proof for a lot of miles. Based upon that, if I could buy a Honda for similar money up front, I would go with it as it will likely be worth more in a few years time than the Ford. Randy Depreciation is waaay down the list of reasons to buy a particular car. At age 83, ease of maintainence, availability and cost of parts, mpg, ease of entry and exit, roominess for driver, handling, ride, and likelyhood of disastrous parts failure (interference engines); these are the principal factors in my decision to buy a particular car. If there was a good Mercedes indy who wasn't in the business of ripping off MB owners near here, I would simply get him to keep my two MBs running and wouldn't even think about buying another car. I can still fix my MBs but its slow, some jobs are painful, and its not much fun anymore. Nevertheless, thanks for the information and suggestions, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
It's aluminum, under high pressure, and too expensive for me to risk messing it up. YMMV. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Ok, but why? Removing and re-torquing one bolt at a time doesn't seem like a recipe for warping the head. There are twenty-two of them! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: NO! - Loosen the bolts in the pattern in the book - then re-torque/stretch them per the book. Do not pull out the bolts one at a time - at the risk of warping the head. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: So should I pull one bolt at a time, measure stretch to make sure it is still within spec, then torque in the three stages without the ten minute wait before the last 90 degree turn, or do I need to keep the wait? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com