Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Craig]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:49:18 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
 wrote:

> Does any vehicle, apart from pickups, have decent rear visibility
> anymore? I don't know if it's due to changes in crash standards or just
> fashion, but I see really thick c-pillars (on sedans) and d-pillars (on
> wagons and hatchbacks) everywhere I look.

The thick c- and d-pillars are not the only problem. The bottoms of the
windows in the rear are higher than the ones in the front, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Jul 11, 2013 8:55 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> the post 126 MBs just don't have all the pieces.  Missing visibility,
(rear) ease of repair, financial, quality of construction at least. (sorry
Jaime)   It makes me sad.
>

Does any vehicle, apart from pickups, have decent rear visibility anymore?
I don't know if it's due to changes in crash standards or just fashion, but
I see really thick c-pillars (on sedans) and d-pillars (on wagons and
hatchbacks) everywhere I look.

Alex
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[MBZ] Nokomis Interview

[Craig]

Thank you all for your prayers and for your interest in my situation.

I prepared for the interview by reading this morning an article,
"Interview Questions Candidates Should Ask" and searching on Google for
the interviewer's name and his company's name.

The article pointed out that interviewing is a two-way street. You have
to convince the person who is interviewing you that they need to hire
you, but they need to convince you just as much as you need to convince
them. The fit for the position has to go both ways.

The Google search turned up a lot of interesting information and gave me
more insight into the company and their activities than the company's
website did.

My interviewer was relaxed and open in his interviewing and told me what
he was thinking, as if we were friends. I felt little pressure in the
interview. He would make a good supervisor.
The interview was a worthwhile experience I
enjoyed; it taught me more about the need for "fit" in a position.
After talking about our weather and that he had worked here at LANL, he
asked me about my RF experience and the type of engineering work I had
done. also He asked me about my experience with high-power RF amplifiers
and vacuum systems.

He asked me my experiences in proposal writing; I told him about my work
with them at the Lab in a time of falling budgets with one proposal I
wrote being stuck on the desk of a program manager at the Lab's main
Technical Area  and the other being held up by DOE in Washington, D.C.,
where one group to whom the proposal was submitted decided they did not
want to work out the details of classified matter with another DOE group.

He said my CV was quite impressive, but also said he was trying to figure
out where I might fit in at Nokomis.

In our discussions, I mentioned several things I had learned about the
company -- he was impressed by my knowledge of the company. At one point,
I asked about the new building they were supposed to have been in by the
end of 2010. He said they were not in the new building, that things had
not worked out as planned. When I commented, "I understand that,"
referring to my proposals, he laughed, knowing I knew how that felt.

He said that their technical staff write proposals and that they had
considered me to potentially lead up new efforts and act as a scientist
who has a lot of experience to help business developement.

He again said he was trying to figure out where I might fit at Nokomis
and that he wasn't perfectly comfortable right now.

The interview took about one-half hour.

In thinking about the position and what the company did, even before the
interview, I was wondering myself how I might fit in. That came about
because the job ad to which I applied was very generic and did not
mention what one might be doing.

So, the interview was a worthwhile experience I enjoyed; it taught me
more about the need for "fit" in a position. The folks at Nokomis were
impressed by my CV (and even called me because of it) but the fit just
wasn't there. My interviewer said I would hear from them, but my guess it
will probably be from the recruiter and will probably be a "thank you for
applying." 

God bless,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Scott Ritchey]

It seemed everything was easy on a 123.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:30 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

> Dieselhead wrote:
> 
> The beauty of the 110 through 123 Diesels is that they are simply
> the lowest cost per mile vehicle available.  now deetriot iron
> gets 250 to 350k miles routinely, and better mileage than the 70s
> and 80s stuff except diesels and a lot less money to get into.
> $3k will buy you a decent car with under 100k miles IF you shop
> around.

Is money the only factor?  What about ease of repair.  That's part
of why I like my W123s.  That and I really like diesel as a fuel.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] College rebuilds

[Dieselhead]

I rebuilt the engine from my 1951VW in my bedroom while in high school.
Step Mom wasn't too happy about it, but Dad was giving my guidance, and
didn't mind.

Okie Don

Wow!  51 VW!  I always thought my 56 Karmann Ghia was prehistoric. 
Yours is even earlier.  Now while I love my 40 + year old car, when I 
was a kid, a 40 year old car was a Model A.  Not many people drove a 
model A then.  We did have a neighbor who drove his Model T, and it 
was his only vehicle.  (old guy)


I rebuilt my OM621 under a big old box elder tree, under a red 
surplus cargo parachute hung from the box elder tree to keep the rain 
off.  I often skipped classes to work on it.  It was much more 
interesting than calc, fizziks, and such.  One block off campus...and 
only a block form the nearest bar.  Better yet, I was next door to 
the "fix it" guy.  He would take on jobs that nobody else would.  Ex 
submariner.


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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Dieselhead]

 > Dieselhead wrote:


 The beauty of the 110 through 123 Diesels is that they are simply
 the lowest cost per mile vehicle available.  now deetriot iron
 gets 250 to 350k miles routinely, and better mileage than the 70s
 and 80s stuff except diesels and a lot less money to get into.
 $3k will buy you a decent car with under 100k miles IF you shop
 around.


Is money the only factor?  What about ease of repair.  That's part
of why I like my W123s.  That and I really like diesel as a fuel.

--   Philip


Durability, quality of construction, safety, visibility, agility, 
braking capability, ease of repair, "image" and yes, financial.


the post 126 MBs just don't have all the pieces.  Missing visibility, 
(rear) ease of repair, financial, quality of construction at least. 
(sorry Jaime)   It makes me sad.


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Re: [MBZ] WD- 40

[Fmiser]

> Rich wrote:
> 
> Funny, I juwt read this thread then see my uncle has posted this
> on his FB:
> 
> 
> I NEVER KNEW THIS!

Some of those are not so smart.  Others I plain don't believe.
(Statue of Liberty?  _sure!_)

What Snopes has to say.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Fmiser]

> Dieselhead wrote:
> 
> The beauty of the 110 through 123 Diesels is that they are simply
> the lowest cost per mile vehicle available.  now deetriot iron
> gets 250 to 350k miles routinely, and better mileage than the 70s
> and 80s stuff except diesels and a lot less money to get into.
> $3k will buy you a decent car with under 100k miles IF you shop
> around.

Is money the only factor?  What about ease of repair.  That's part
of why I like my W123s.  That and I really like diesel as a fuel.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

[Fmiser]

> > > Curt Raymond wrote:
> > > 
> > > Sounds like a VR to me, I've got a spare, I'll give it a
> > > shot.  I'm also going to gut an old 12v cellphone
> > > charger to make test ports I can easily plug my
> > > multimeter into for realtime monitoring.

> > MMM wrote:
> >
> > I use one of these widgets:
> > 
> > http://www.walmart.com/ip/Equus-Innova-3721-Battery-and-Charging-System-Monitor/15137663

> Curt wrote:
> 
> Yeahbut if I can cut apart an old phone charger and make one
> thats $17 in my pocket...

You're just looking for a way to connect your existing DMM to
monitor the voltage?  _Any_ +12 on the car will work.  There
are numerous places to tap on any of my cars - but mine are
W123s, so your car may be different.

I guess you're planning to just use the lighter plug from the
'phone changer?  Make sure you bypass or removed the voltage
regulator stuff or you'll worry yourself. *grin*

--Philip, imagining Curt's reaction when his meter reads
  5.0 VDC.

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[MBZ] OT: Human-powered helicopter finally takes Sikorsky Prize

[OK Don]

FYI --

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57593417-1/human-powered-helicopter-finally-takes-sikorsky-prize/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title

Since 1980, the American Helicopter Society has offered the Sikorsky
Prize:
a $250,000 reward for a functional, human-powered helicopter.

To win the prize, the helicopter must remain airborne for 60 seconds, with
an altitude of 3 meters (a little less than 10 feet) to be reached at some
point during those 60 seconds. It must also remain within a horizontal area
no larger than 10x10 meters.

Last year, it looked like the University of Maryland's Gamera II was gearing
up to take the 
prize,
but two Canadians have scooped it up from right under Gamera II's nose.

Cameron Robertson and Todd Reichert of the University of Toronto's Vehicle
Design Team and AeroVelo hit up Kickstarter last
yearto
fund a vehicle called the Atlas. Consisting of four rotors connected
by
a massive frame, the helicopter is powered by a modified bicycle slung from
the middle.

Robertson and Reichert had hired a stadium for five days of test flights.
The successful flight didn't occur until the very last day. Reichert,
piloting the Atlas, remained airborne for 64.11 seconds and reached a top
height of 3.33 meters within a 9.8-meter square.

"In 18 months, this passionate team went from preliminary design to
achieving what many considered impossible; taking down one of the most
daunting aviation feats of the past century," the team said on its Web
page
.

Video at :
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57593417-1/human-powered-helicopter-finally-takes-sikorsky-prize/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title



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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

[G Mann]

Objection, Your Honor.

Thousands of hours in other types does not make you competent in a new
airframe.
Each Type require a different set of skills. That is why you are required
to possess a "type certificate" to fly each different large aircraft.

Certainly, if you have some flight experience, it is expected you
understand the basics of flight, however, large, heavy, and powerful
aircraft move at very different rates of climb, sink, and acceleration. It
is incredibly easy to "get behind the airplane" and be out of control. At
altitude, you have perhaps thousands of feet to "recover and correct".. on
short final approach, at a high decent rate, second equate to thousands of
feet you don't have.

At this time, it certainly appears the crew was far behind the aircraft and
failed first to recognize it was out of control, then second, to take
corrective and effective action in a timely manner to regain control.. to
little, way to late.

Flying a large airliner properly also requires crew coordination, Each
member of the cockpit has a duty to check and recheck both the aircraft and
the actions of the other crew then advise immediately if any item needs
attention.

Until a review of the cockpit tapes on the black box is done, we won't know
if that cross check by crew members was done. It would appear at this time,
it was not.

Grant...

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Andrew Strasfogel  writes:
>
> > BTW, what struck me about the "inexperienced" pilot was that he may never
> > have actually landed such an aircraft before in his 43 hours of ttraining
> > (or simulating).  If true, this would be astounding.
>
> Gotta be a first time, no?
>
> He had thousands of hours in other types.  He was not a newbie.
>
> Allan
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] College rebuilds

[OK Don]

Oh yes, I don't think he ever worked on a car again after that till I left
home! It was a good investment for him.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:42:49 -0500 OK Don  wrote:
>
> > I rebuilt the engine from my 1951VW in my bedroom while in high school.
> > Step Mom wasn't too happy about it, but Dad was giving my guidance, and
> > didn't mind.
>
> I bet he enjoyed the process, too.
>
>
> Craig
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] College rebuilds

[Craig]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:40:43 -0400 MG  wrote:

> Probably can't get away with stuff like that now. Too bad.

Yes, indeed. We did all kinds of things like that that would be
problematic now and thought nothing of them.


Craig

> Manfred
> 
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:33:13 -0600
> From: Craig 
> 
> I rebuilt the engine of my 1959 Alfa Romeo Spyder Veloce in my college
> room. It had a painted concrete floor. On the landing outside my room,
> I had a desk on which I rebuilt the twin Weber carburettors, including
> my work with a gallon of carburettor cleaner.
> 
> 
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] College rebuilds

[Craig]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:42:49 -0500 OK Don  wrote:

> I rebuilt the engine from my 1951VW in my bedroom while in high school.
> Step Mom wasn't too happy about it, but Dad was giving my guidance, and
> didn't mind.

I bet he enjoyed the process, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 6:42 PM -0500 7/11/13, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Asians can't drive so why think they can fly?


Nonsense!  

Re: [MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?

[dseretakis]

Yes, I bled all four calipers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I had this recently on my '84 190D when I replaced the pads, calipers etc on 
> the rears. It went away after a couple hundred miles. I think the pads were 
> maybe slightly oversized.
> 
> Now on reflection I realize you're saying the squealing is coming from the 
> "good" side. Maybe a delayed failure? Did you bleed that side again?
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:14:44 -0400
> From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
> 
> Last summer I replaced my rear brakes on the 82 240D. I replaced everything, 
> rotors, pads, calipers, flexible brake hoses and the left steel brake line 
> leading to proportioning valve. I used reman calipers. I've always had good 
> luck with these until now. 
> The left rear caliper pistons seized up. The inboard side was not making 
> contact with the rotor and thus that side of the rotor was very rusted. The 
> outboard side was not releasing thereby causing the brakes to heat up like 
> mad. l replaced the caliper and rotor today. The parts were free as they were 
> under warrantee. The caliper has a lifetime and the rotor two years. The 
> right sided brakes looked just fine with minimal pad wear. Now I know that 
> you must replace brakes in pairs but I didn't as they are only one yr old and 
> as I explained the right looked fine.
> I then took the car for a spin and I now hear a squeal on the right, it is 
> worst when braking. Could this be related to inequality in braking power? 
> Could this be caused by replacing only one side?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 8:29 PM -0700 7/10/13, clay wrote:

Yes.  Sorry for the late reply.

I did the job on Gump and the stalk stayed put.  I have a trio of 
stalks that are almost tight, but slip at times.  A tiny filing at 
the ends and the middle stops to make it more defined will help. 
Just be careful to not go too far, as then the stalk gets stuck


And I've done the same operation on 114/115 stalks.  Moto tool and 
small end mill does the job, judiciously applied.


-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 9:43 PM -0400 7/10/13, Dwight Giles wrote:

Yes-i know. Used to change trannies in college dormitory parking lot or
even on roadside. Almost go suspended from college rebuilding comet trans
in my room. Something about the carpet h parts  cleaner. But that was 45
years ago.


When I was in aircraft mechanic school 30 years ago, I fabricated a 
new clutch cable for my '70 Volvo 145 wagon from aircraft cable and 
clevises, using a crimper I'd made myself out of bar steel.  I got 
extra credit.  :)


-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] More Job Activity

[Curt Raymond]

I have a customer in Vancouver named Bogdan. I can't remember exactly how to 
spell his last name, Grigoescu or something like that. Of eastern European 
origin but I can't remember which country.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:32:26 -0500
From: Mountain Man 
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Craig wrote:
> I also got a call from the recruiter with Nokomis in Charleroi,
> Pennsylvania. She set up a telephone interview for me with a fellow named
> Bogdan Pathak of their Toledo, Ohio office. The interview will be
> tomorrow, Thursday, 11 July, at 2:00 P.M. MDT.

How many guys named Bogdan are there in the world?
I worked with a guy, his parents grew up in Serbia and his name was
Bogdan Pantic - seems real close to Pathak.  He went to Serbia under
some State Department program 4 years ago to do translation work.  We
did civil engineering, which is a different realm from what Nokomis
appears, but... I had to ask myself, how many Bogdan names are out
there?  Perhaps it is a popular Serbian name?
mao
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?

[Curt Raymond]

I had this recently on my '84 190D when I replaced the pads, calipers etc on 
the rears. It went away after a couple hundred miles. I think the pads were 
maybe slightly oversized.

Now on reflection I realize you're saying the squealing is coming from the 
"good" side. Maybe a delayed failure? Did you bleed that side again?

-Curt

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:14:44 -0400
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
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Subject: [MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?
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Last summer I replaced my rear brakes on the 82 240D. I replaced everything, 
rotors, pads, calipers, flexible brake hoses and the left steel brake line 
leading to proportioning valve. I used reman calipers. I've always had good 
luck with these until now. 
The left rear caliper pistons seized up. The inboard side was not making 
contact with the rotor and thus that side of the rotor was very rusted. The 
outboard side was not releasing thereby causing the brakes to heat up like mad. 
l replaced the caliper and rotor today. The parts were free as they were under 
warrantee. The caliper has a lifetime and the rotor two years. The right sided 
brakes looked just fine with minimal pad wear. Now I know that you must replace 
brakes in pairs but I didn't as they are only one yr old and as I explained the 
right looked fine.
I then took the car for a spin and I now hear a squeal on the right, it is 
worst when braking. Could this be related to inequality in braking power? Could 
this be caused by replacing only one side?

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?

[Dwight Giles]

Good one Rusty. Glad you still have your humor. Dwight

On Thursday, July 11, 2013, Rusty Cullens  wrote:
> This year I replaced me with Trent (I learned my lesson) replace both
sides, trust me.

>
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
> Sender: "Mercedes" 
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:14:44
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?
>
> Last summer I replaced my rear brakes on the 82 240D. I replaced
everything, rotors, pads, calipers, flexible brake hoses and the left steel
brake line leading to proportioning valve. I used reman calipers. I've
always had good luck with these until now.
> The left rear caliper pistons seized up. The inboard side was not making
contact with the rotor and thus that side of the rotor was very rusted. The
outboard side was not releasing thereby causing the brakes to heat up like
mad. l replaced the caliper and rotor today. The parts were free as they
were under warrantee. The caliper has a lifetime and the rotor two years.
The right sided brakes looked just fine with minimal pad wear. Now I know
that you must replace brakes in pairs but I didn't as they are only one yr
old and as I explained the right looked fine.
> I then took the car for a spin and I now hear a squeal on the right, it
is worst when braking. Could this be related to inequality in braking
power? Could this be caused by replacing only one side?
>
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Re: [MBZ] College rebuilds

[OK Don]

I rebuilt the engine from my 1951VW in my bedroom while in high school.
Step Mom wasn't too happy about it, but Dad was giving my guidance, and
didn't mind.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:40 PM, MG  wrote:

> Probably can't get away with stuff like that now. Too bad.
>
> Manfred
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:33:13 -0600
> From: Craig 
>
> I rebuilt the engine of my 1959 Alfa Romeo Spyder Veloce in my college
> room. It had a painted concrete floor. On the landing outside my room, I
> had a desk on which I rebuilt the twin Weber carburettors, including my
> work with a gallon of carburettor cleaner.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] College rebuilds

[MG]

Probably can't get away with stuff like that now. Too bad.

Manfred

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:33:13 -0600
From: Craig 

I rebuilt the engine of my 1959 Alfa Romeo Spyder Veloce in my 
college
room. It had a painted concrete floor. On the landing outside my 
room, I
had a desk on which I rebuilt the twin Weber carburettors, 
including my

work with a gallon of carburettor cleaner.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?

[Rusty Cullens]

This year I replaced me with Trent (I learned my lesson) replace both sides, 
trust me.


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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 20:14:44 
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Subject: [MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?

Last summer I replaced my rear brakes on the 82 240D. I replaced everything, 
rotors, pads, calipers, flexible brake hoses and the left steel brake line 
leading to proportioning valve. I used reman calipers. I've always had good 
luck with these until now. 
The left rear caliper pistons seized up. The inboard side was not making 
contact with the rotor and thus that side of the rotor was very rusted. The 
outboard side was not releasing thereby causing the brakes to heat up like mad. 
l replaced the caliper and rotor today. The parts were free as they were under 
warrantee. The caliper has a lifetime and the rotor two years. The right sided 
brakes looked just fine with minimal pad wear. Now I know that you must replace 
brakes in pairs but I didn't as they are only one yr old and as I explained the 
right looked fine.
I then took the car for a spin and I now hear a squeal on the right, it is 
worst when braking. Could this be related to inequality in braking power? Could 
this be caused by replacing only one side?

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

[OK Don]

It only works that way because you're up-side-down   ;-)

The bushings were the same for the 107, 115,123,124,and 126, with minor
variations in the available space to work in


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Actually meant to write, "without the special tool" I use a screwdriver
> and ordinary pliers from memory.
> You have to put one side in and then squash up the other to get it to pop
> in.
>
> Hendrik
> who is not the six million dollar man
>
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

[OK Don]

FWIW, ILS is becoming obsolete (not yet, but soon) due to WAAS GPS systems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Area_Augmentation_System

Overall, commercail aviation is remarkably safe and effective. However, if
I don't HAVE to be somewhere at a specifc time/date, I perfer to fly
myself, just as I perfer to drive myself rather than taking the bus. YMMV.


> >>
> >>  However computers can't do visual
> >> approaches yet, and that was the only option at SFO 28L that day since
> >> the ILS was out of service.
> >>
> >> On balance, automation has probably saved more lives than it's cost.
> >> Automation relieves the pilot workload, flies more economically than
> >> humans can, and in general files more safely.
> >>
> >> I think the unfortunate reality is that commercial air transport, while
> >> very (VERY) safe, is not perfectly safe.  Situations can arise, where
> >> the automation cannot handle it and a human, being human, makes a bad
> >> decision.  All we can do is try to learn from it.
> >>
> >> Allan
> >>
> >>
>



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[MBZ] Replacing brakes one side only?

[dseretakis]

Last summer I replaced my rear brakes on the 82 240D. I replaced everything, 
rotors, pads, calipers, flexible brake hoses and the left steel brake line 
leading to proportioning valve. I used reman calipers. I've always had good 
luck with these until now. 
The left rear caliper pistons seized up. The inboard side was not making 
contact with the rotor and thus that side of the rotor was very rusted. The 
outboard side was not releasing thereby causing the brakes to heat up like mad. 
l replaced the caliper and rotor today. The parts were free as they were under 
warrantee. The caliper has a lifetime and the rotor two years. The right sided 
brakes looked just fine with minimal pad wear. Now I know that you must replace 
brakes in pairs but I didn't as they are only one yr old and as I explained the 
right looked fine.
I then took the car for a spin and I now hear a squeal on the right, it is 
worst when braking. Could this be related to inequality in braking power? Could 
this be caused by replacing only one side?

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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220 or fix the 126?

[Hendrik and Fay]

Question is, if a 126 is uncomfortable, then I think there is something 
wrong, such as worn seat.

However don't the 220 have massaging seats or something?

Hendrik
who can sit in a MB all day and feel fine, other cars = soreness after 
an hour or two


On 12/07/13 08:25, Dan Penoff wrote:

1.) If you find a decent W110 or W111, please let me know.  I'm sort of in the 
very, very beginning stages of looking for one.

2.) If you're looking for something more modern and you still want the solid, 
living room comfort of a W126, I would highly recommend that you check out the 
very last of the W140 chassis cars, which I believe are MY 98 and 99.  By this 
point they had worked out all the deficiencies and the cars were very reliable 
and relatively trouble free.  The W140 can be worked on by a decent DIY person 
for a great deal of the systems, and there are plenty of great resources out 
there like BenzWorld.org where you can find lots of help and DIY information.

If I had to buy another daily driver I would be looking at these cars.  They're 
solid, have the panache of the older MB chassis, and prices have settled to a 
point where you can find some nice examples with a lot of life left in them.

Dan
  
On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Dieselhead wrote:



I am not sure I made a great choice in getting the w220.  It is a very nice 
example that gets praise from the people at shops I have taken her to.  That 
said, the thing is overly complex and bound to be very expensive to maintain.  
Selection of design parts is rather substandard compared to previous E class 
models.  Very oriental in and cheapo carpet, dash as well as headliner


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers

Yes, exactly why I can't see buying any post 124/126 MB.  A 126 is SO much 
better, simpler (even though it is complex) and easier/cheaper to maintain.

Maybe by an off lease new one and then sell/buy another every year IF you can 
afford it.  But they are no longer the low cost per mile vehicle that the 110 
through 126 are/were.

So I think newish stuff will be frods, dogdes or maybe even an Imp. for me.

The beauty of the 110 through 123 Diesels is that they are simply the lowest 
cost per mile vehicle available.  now deetriot iron gets 250 to 350k miles 
routinely, and better mileage than the 70s and 80s stuff except diesels and a 
lot less money to get into.  $3k will buy you a decent car with under 100k 
miles IF you shop around.





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Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

[Hendrik and Fay]

Actually meant to write, "without the special tool" I use a screwdriver 
and ordinary pliers from memory.
You have to put one side in and then squash up the other to get it to 
pop in.


Hendrik
who is not the six million dollar man

On 12/07/13 07:58, Larry T wrote:
Wow Hendrik!!  You must have fingers like steel traps!!   Got some 
Bionic parts in there, Huh?


Actually I replaced them on my W123 but I cannot remember how I 
actually got it/them to pop into place   Can't believe the W124 is 
significantly worse than the W123?  The ones on my 240D lasted more 
than 250,000 miles...


LarryT
91 30oD

On 7/11/2013 2:52 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
I've always managed to get those suckers in without tools, fiddly but 
doable.


Hendrik
whose plastic thingies are in good shape, last time I looked






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Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Asians can't drive so why think they can fly?

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On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:38 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> Speaking of not being able to do a visual approach; evidently, neither can 
> three 10-khr Korean pilots.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" 
> To: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>; "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?
> 
> 
>> Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> If it going to be all automated, then eliminate the people and thereby
>>> pilot error.  If these guys (or gals ) are sitting in the seat, they
>>> need to be monitoring the critical parameters (altitude, attitude and
>>> airspeed) whether on manual or auto.
>> 
>> Eliminating the people might in theory eliminate the pilot error (though
>> the automation is all created and programmed by people too).
>> 
>> My view is that there is a catch 22 of sorts.  Could an automated
>> aircraft have landed US 1549 on the Hudson River when the engines were
>> disabled by birds?  No.  No way.  You would have had several hundred
>> fatalities in that situation if a robot was flying the airplane.  Only a
>> human, has the ability to react intelligently to a completely
>> unanticipated situation.  Unfortunately, though, not all pilots are
>> Chesley Sullenberger.  Most, by definition, are average.  So no
>> guarantee that any average human pilot could have saved that situation,
>> but certainly ONLY a human pilot had any chance to do so.
>> 
>> On the other hand, would a robot pilot have made the mistakes that the
>> OZ 214 pilots did?  No.  If there's one thing computers are good at (and
>> people are bad at) it's monitoring things without ever making
>> assumptions or getting distracted.  However computers can't do visual
>> approaches yet, and that was the only option at SFO 28L that day since
>> the ILS was out of service.
>> 
>> On balance, automation has probably saved more lives than it's cost.
>> Automation relieves the pilot workload, flies more economically than
>> humans can, and in general files more safely.
>> 
>> I think the unfortunate reality is that commercial air transport, while
>> very (VERY) safe, is not perfectly safe.  Situations can arise, where
>> the automation cannot handle it and a human, being human, makes a bad
>> decision.  All we can do is try to learn from it.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] WD- 40

[Benz Hogs]

WD-40 themselves confirm that it's NOT fish oil.  See the link I've 
previously sent out twice.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (168,xxx mi)

On 7/11/2013 2:33 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

There is a lot of misinformation on the net.  This particular item has been
around for some years.  The WD-40 Company (that's their name) will not
disclose the contents.  But the fact-check sites say it ain't fish oil.


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Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

[WILTON]

Speaking of not being able to do a visual approach; evidently, neither can 
three 10-khr Korean pilots.


Wilton

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To: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?



Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:


If it going to be all automated, then eliminate the people and thereby
pilot error.  If these guys (or gals ) are sitting in the seat, they
need to be monitoring the critical parameters (altitude, attitude and
airspeed) whether on manual or auto.


Eliminating the people might in theory eliminate the pilot error (though
the automation is all created and programmed by people too).

My view is that there is a catch 22 of sorts.  Could an automated
aircraft have landed US 1549 on the Hudson River when the engines were
disabled by birds?  No.  No way.  You would have had several hundred
fatalities in that situation if a robot was flying the airplane.  Only a
human, has the ability to react intelligently to a completely
unanticipated situation.  Unfortunately, though, not all pilots are
Chesley Sullenberger.  Most, by definition, are average.  So no
guarantee that any average human pilot could have saved that situation,
but certainly ONLY a human pilot had any chance to do so.

On the other hand, would a robot pilot have made the mistakes that the
OZ 214 pilots did?  No.  If there's one thing computers are good at (and
people are bad at) it's monitoring things without ever making
assumptions or getting distracted.  However computers can't do visual
approaches yet, and that was the only option at SFO 28L that day since
the ILS was out of service.

On balance, automation has probably saved more lives than it's cost.
Automation relieves the pilot workload, flies more economically than
humans can, and in general files more safely.

I think the unfortunate reality is that commercial air transport, while
very (VERY) safe, is not perfectly safe.  Situations can arise, where
the automation cannot handle it and a human, being human, makes a bad
decision.  All we can do is try to learn from it.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

[Allan Streib]

Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:

> If it going to be all automated, then eliminate the people and thereby
> pilot error.  If these guys (or gals ) are sitting in the seat, they
> need to be monitoring the critical parameters (altitude, attitude and
> airspeed) whether on manual or auto.

Eliminating the people might in theory eliminate the pilot error (though
the automation is all created and programmed by people too).

My view is that there is a catch 22 of sorts.  Could an automated
aircraft have landed US 1549 on the Hudson River when the engines were
disabled by birds?  No.  No way.  You would have had several hundred
fatalities in that situation if a robot was flying the airplane.  Only a
human, has the ability to react intelligently to a completely
unanticipated situation.  Unfortunately, though, not all pilots are
Chesley Sullenberger.  Most, by definition, are average.  So no
guarantee that any average human pilot could have saved that situation,
but certainly ONLY a human pilot had any chance to do so.

On the other hand, would a robot pilot have made the mistakes that the
OZ 214 pilots did?  No.  If there's one thing computers are good at (and
people are bad at) it's monitoring things without ever making
assumptions or getting distracted.  However computers can't do visual
approaches yet, and that was the only option at SFO 28L that day since
the ILS was out of service.

On balance, automation has probably saved more lives than it's cost.
Automation relieves the pilot workload, flies more economically than
humans can, and in general files more safely.

I think the unfortunate reality is that commercial air transport, while
very (VERY) safe, is not perfectly safe.  Situations can arise, where
the automation cannot handle it and a human, being human, makes a bad
decision.  All we can do is try to learn from it.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Dan Penoff]

1.) If you find a decent W110 or W111, please let me know.  I'm sort of in the 
very, very beginning stages of looking for one.

2.) If you're looking for something more modern and you still want the solid, 
living room comfort of a W126, I would highly recommend that you check out the 
very last of the W140 chassis cars, which I believe are MY 98 and 99.  By this 
point they had worked out all the deficiencies and the cars were very reliable 
and relatively trouble free.  The W140 can be worked on by a decent DIY person 
for a great deal of the systems, and there are plenty of great resources out 
there like BenzWorld.org where you can find lots of help and DIY information.

If I had to buy another daily driver I would be looking at these cars.  They're 
solid, have the panache of the older MB chassis, and prices have settled to a 
point where you can find some nice examples with a lot of life left in them.

Dan

On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

>> I am not sure I made a great choice in getting the w220.  It is a very nice 
>> example that gets praise from the people at shops I have taken her to.  That 
>> said, the thing is overly complex and bound to be very expensive to 
>> maintain.  Selection of design parts is rather substandard compared to 
>> previous E class models.  Very oriental in and cheapo carpet, dash as well 
>> as headliner
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> Yes, exactly why I can't see buying any post 124/126 MB.  A 126 is SO much 
> better, simpler (even though it is complex) and easier/cheaper to maintain.
> 
> Maybe by an off lease new one and then sell/buy another every year IF you can 
> afford it.  But they are no longer the low cost per mile vehicle that the 110 
> through 126 are/were.
> 
> So I think newish stuff will be frods, dogdes or maybe even an Imp. for me.
> 
> The beauty of the 110 through 123 Diesels is that they are simply the lowest 
> cost per mile vehicle available.  now deetriot iron gets 250 to 350k miles 
> routinely, and better mileage than the 70s and 80s stuff except diesels and a 
> lot less money to get into.  $3k will buy you a decent car with under 100k 
> miles IF you shop around.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Dan Penoff]

1.) If you find a decent W110 or W111, please let me know.  I'm sort of in the 
very, very beginning stages of looking for one.

2.) If you're looking for something more modern and you still want the solid, 
living room comfort of a W126, I would highly recommend that you check out the 
very last of the W140 chassis cars, which I believe are MY 98 and 99.  By this 
point they had worked out all the deficiencies and the cars were very reliable 
and relatively trouble free.  The W140 can be worked on by a decent DIY person 
for a great deal of the systems, and there are plenty of great resources out 
there like BenzWorld.org where you can find lots of help and DIY information.

If I had to buy another daily driver I would be looking at these cars.  They're 
solid, have the panache of the older MB chassis, and prices have settled to a 
point where you can find some nice examples with a lot of life left in them.

Dan
 
On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

>> I am not sure I made a great choice in getting the w220.  It is a very nice 
>> example that gets praise from the people at shops I have taken her to.  That 
>> said, the thing is overly complex and bound to be very expensive to 
>> maintain.  Selection of design parts is rather substandard compared to 
>> previous E class models.  Very oriental in and cheapo carpet, dash as well 
>> as headliner
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> Yes, exactly why I can't see buying any post 124/126 MB.  A 126 is SO much 
> better, simpler (even though it is complex) and easier/cheaper to maintain.
> 
> Maybe by an off lease new one and then sell/buy another every year IF you can 
> afford it.  But they are no longer the low cost per mile vehicle that the 110 
> through 126 are/were.
> 
> So I think newish stuff will be frods, dogdes or maybe even an Imp. for me.
> 
> The beauty of the 110 through 123 Diesels is that they are simply the lowest 
> cost per mile vehicle available.  now deetriot iron gets 250 to 350k miles 
> routinely, and better mileage than the 70s and 80s stuff except diesels and a 
> lot less money to get into.  $3k will buy you a decent car with under 100k 
> miles IF you shop around.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

[Allan Streib]

Andrew Strasfogel  writes:

> BTW, what struck me about the "inexperienced" pilot was that he may never
> have actually landed such an aircraft before in his 43 hours of ttraining
> (or simulating).  If true, this would be astounding.

Gotta be a first time, no?

He had thousands of hours in other types.  He was not a newbie.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 92, Issue 76

[Craig]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:37:55 -0400 MG  wrote:

> Cool. I never had a car then but did rebuild the motor of my 
> Enfield interceptor in the kitchen of the 7 man on campus 
> apartment. The RA just shook his head, said I didn't see it and 
> walked out. That was in 68. Yeah too long ago.

I rebuilt the engine of my 1959 Alfa Romeo Spyder Veloce in my college
room. It had a painted concrete floor. On the landing outside my room, I
had a desk on which I rebuilt the twin Weber carburettors, including my
work with a gallon of carburettor cleaner.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

[Larry T]

Wow Hendrik!!  You must have fingers like steel traps!!   Got some 
Bionic parts in there, Huh?


Actually I replaced them on my W123 but I cannot remember how I actually 
got it/them to pop into place   Can't believe the W124 is 
significantly worse than the W123?  The ones on my 240D lasted more than 
250,000 miles...


LarryT
91 30oD

On 7/11/2013 2:52 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
I've always managed to get those suckers in without tools, fiddly but 
doable.


Hendrik
whose plastic thingies are in good shape, last time I looked

On 10/07/13 21:10, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rick Knoble wrote:

On Jul 10, 2013, at 6:06 AM, "Larry T"  wrote:


I must have missed the post describing the tool..  can you repost it?



And, if you have extra money burning a hole in your pocket...

https://mercedessource.com/store/automatic-transmission-shift-rod-bushing-replacement-tool 



$28?
Every pro (and amateur gadget freak) should have one. I'd probably go 
with Luther's $1 tool at this point.


I'm thinking of an interesting test.
"You're an independent Mercedes mechanic?"
"You've got a lot of experience on W201 and older?"
"What do you use to install shift linkage bushings?"
(I'd be expecting him to reach for his tool box and pull out the tool 
Rick linked)


Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Dieselhead]

I am not sure I made a great choice in getting the w220.  It is a 
very nice example that gets praise from the people at shops I have 
taken her to.  That said, the thing is overly complex and bound to 
be very expensive to maintain.  Selection of design parts is rather 
substandard compared to previous E class models.  Very oriental in 
and cheapo carpet, dash as well as headliner



clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers


Yes, exactly why I can't see buying any post 124/126 MB.  A 126 is SO 
much better, simpler (even though it is complex) and easier/cheaper 
to maintain.


Maybe by an off lease new one and then sell/buy another every year IF 
you can afford it.  But they are no longer the low cost per mile 
vehicle that the 110 through 126 are/were.


So I think newish stuff will be frods, dogdes or maybe even an Imp. for me.

The beauty of the 110 through 123 Diesels is that they are simply the 
lowest cost per mile vehicle available.  now deetriot iron gets 250 
to 350k miles routinely, and better mileage than the 70s and 80s 
stuff except diesels and a lot less money to get into.  $3k will buy 
you a decent car with under 100k miles IF you shop around.


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Re: [MBZ] More Job Activity

[Randy Bennell]

On 11/07/2013 3:32 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Craig wrote:

I also got a call from the recruiter with Nokomis in Charleroi,
Pennsylvania. She set up a telephone interview for me with a fellow named
Bogdan Pathak of their Toledo, Ohio office. The interview will be
tomorrow, Thursday, 11 July, at 2:00 P.M. MDT.

How many guys named Bogdan are there in the world?
I worked with a guy, his parents grew up in Serbia and his name was
Bogdan Pantic - seems real close to Pathak.  He went to Serbia under
some State Department program 4 years ago to do translation work.  We
did civil engineering, which is a different realm from what Nokomis
appears, but... I had to ask myself, how many Bogdan names are out
there?  Perhaps it is a popular Serbian name?
mao

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I had a neighbor named Bogdan.
He was from Poland.

His son was Bartag.

The female names seem to be less different.

His wife was Elizabet and daughter was Agata if I recall correctly.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] More Job Activity

[Mountain Man]

Craig wrote:
> I also got a call from the recruiter with Nokomis in Charleroi,
> Pennsylvania. She set up a telephone interview for me with a fellow named
> Bogdan Pathak of their Toledo, Ohio office. The interview will be
> tomorrow, Thursday, 11 July, at 2:00 P.M. MDT.

How many guys named Bogdan are there in the world?
I worked with a guy, his parents grew up in Serbia and his name was
Bogdan Pantic - seems real close to Pathak.  He went to Serbia under
some State Department program 4 years ago to do translation work.  We
did civil engineering, which is a different realm from what Nokomis
appears, but... I had to ask myself, how many Bogdan names are out
there?  Perhaps it is a popular Serbian name?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[clay]

I am not sure I made a great choice in getting the w220.  It is a very nice 
example that gets praise from the people at shops I have taken her to.  That 
said, the thing is overly complex and bound to be very expensive to maintain.  
Selection of design parts is rather substandard compared to previous E class 
models.  Very oriental in and cheapo carpet, dash as well as headliner


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

> The W140 is a land yacht of a car, and almost as good as a well sorted out 
> W126 for road trips.
> 
> That being said, it is far more complex, with the resulting expense due to 
> the many sophisticated systems it has.
> 
> My comments are not meant to frighten or deter you from going with a W140, 
> but there are some pitfalls to be conscious of should you decide to go that 
> direction.
> 
> If you have specific questions, let me know.
> 
> I would add that my 1995 S500 coupe just turned 250k a few days ago and has 
> been trouble free through my ownership.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Joe Sasser  wrote:
> 
>> With my back having become worse, it's time to update S-classes from the 
>> w126 I've been driving for the past 10-11 years.
>> 
>> It's a 300SD, and the mileage is phenomenal. Lots of work has gone into it, 
>> from a new engine, rebuilt tranny (with only 10k miles on it), and a 
>> complete AC overhaul, replacing EVERY little piece, to the point of the guys 
>> asking if I wanted R12 or 134.
>> 
>> But with driving back/forth to Houston (100miles each way) lately, the ride 
>> just isn't what it used to be. So I've started looking around, and 
>> originally thought the w220 would be too far from my grasp. However, there 
>> are some around to be found for a good price.
>> 
>> I love the looks of the w140, and the interior & goodies of the w220. So, to 
>> those of you here which own one or both, or have owned either or both, what 
>> are the pros/cons of each model?
>> 
>> This most likely will be the car to keep till I'm old & grey. Any/all advice 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] WD- 40

[Mitch Haley]

Scott Ritchey wrote:

There is a lot of misinformation on the net.  This particular item has been
around for some years.  The WD-40 Company (that's their name) will not
disclose the contents.  But the fact-check sites say it ain't fish oil.


Years ago, I don't recall who or when, I was told kerosene and DMSO.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] WD- 40

[Scott Ritchey]

There is a lot of misinformation on the net.  This particular item has been
around for some years.  The WD-40 Company (that's their name) will not
disclose the contents.  But the fact-check sites say it ain't fish oil.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:01 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WD- 40

Funny, I juwt read this thread then see my uncle has posted this on his FB:


I NEVER KNEW THIS!

What IS The Main Ingredient of WD-40?
Before you read to the end, does anybody know what the main ingredient 
of WD-40?
No Cheating.

WD-40 ~ Who knew!

I had a neighbor who bought a new pickup.
I got up very early one Sunday morning and saw that someone had spray 
painted red all around the sides of this beige truck (for some unknown 
reason).
I went over, woke him up, and told him the bad news.
He was very upset and was trying to figure out what to do
probably nothing until Monday morning, since nothing was open.
Another neighbor came out and told him to get his WD-40 and clean it off.
It removed the unwanted paint beautifully and did not harm his paint job 
that was on the truck. I was impressed!

WD-40 who knew?
"Water Displacement #40".
The product began from a search for a rust preventative solvent and 
degreaser to protect missile parts.
WD-40 was created in 1953, by three technicians at the San Diego Rocket 
Chemical Company.
Its name comes from the project that was to find a 'Water Displacement' 
Compound.
They were finally successful for a formulation, with their fortieth 
attempt, thus WD-40.
The 'Convair Company' bought it in bulk to protect their atlas missile 
parts.
Ken East (one of the original founders) says there is nothing in WD-40 
that would hurt you.
When you read the 'shower door' part, try it.
It's the first thing that has ever cleaned that spotty shower door.
If yours is plastic, it works just as well as on glass.
It's a miracle!
Then try it on your stove-top.
It's now shinier than it's ever been.
You'll be amazed.

WD-40 Uses:
1. Protects silver from tarnishing.
2. Removes road tar and grime from cars.
3. Cleans and lubricates guitar strings.
4. Gives floor that 'just-waxed' sheen without making them slippery.
5. Keeps the flies off of Cows, Horses, and other Farm Critters, as 
well. (Ya gotta love this one!!!)
6. Restores and cleans chalkboards.
7. Removes lipstick stains.
8. Loosens stubborn zippers.
9. Untangles jewelry chains.
10. Removes stains from stainless steel sinks.
11. Removes dirt and grime from the barbecue grill.
12. Keeps ceramic / terracotta garden pots from oxidizing.
13. Removes tomato stains from clothing.
14. Keeps glass shower doors free of water spots.
15. Camouflages scratches in ceramic and marble floors.
16. Keeps scissors working smoothly.
17. Lubricates noisy door hinges on both home and vehicles doors.
18. It removes that nasty tar and scuff marks from the kitchen flooring.
It doesn't seem to harm the finish and you won't have to scrub nearly as 
hard to get them off.
Just remember to open some windows if you have a lot of marks.
19. Remove those nasty Bug guts that will eat away the finish on your 
car if not removed quickly!
20. Gives a children's playground gym slide a shine for a super fast slide.
21. Lubricates gearshift and mower deck lever for ease of handling on 
riding mowers...
22. Rids kids rocking chair and swings of squeaky noises.
23. Lubricates tracks in sticking home windows and makes them easier to 
open.
24. Spraying an umbrella stem makes it easier to open and close.
25. Restores and cleans padded leather dashboards in vehicles, as well 
as vinyl bumpers.
26. Restores and cleans roof racks on vehicles.
27. Lubricates and stops squeaks in electric fans.
28. Lubricates wheel sprockets on tricycles, wagons, and bicycles for 
easy handling.
29. Lubricates fan belts on washers and dryers and keeps them running 
smoothly.
30. Keeps rust from forming on saws and saw blades, and other tools.
31. Removes grease splatters from stove-tops.
32. Keeps bathroom mirror from fogging.
33. Lubricates prosthetic limbs.
34. Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).
35. Removes all traces of duct tape.
36. Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve 
arthritis pain.
37. Florida's favorite use is: 'cleans and removes love bugs from grills 
and bumpers.'
38. The favorite use in the state of New York, it protects the Statue of 
Liberty from the elements.
39. WD-40 attracts fish. Spray a little on live bait or lures and you 
will be catching the big one in no time. Also, it's a lot cheaper than 
the chemical attractants that are made for just that purpose.
Keep in mind though, using some chemical laced baits or lures for 
fishing are not allowed in some states.
40. Use it for fire ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and 
stops the itch.
41. It is great for removing crayon from walls. Spray it on the m

Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Mitch Haley]

Joe Sasser wrote:

With my back having become worse, it's time to update S-classes from the w126 
I've been driving for the past 10-11 years.

It's a 300SD, and the mileage is phenomenal. Lots of work has gone into it, 
from a new engine, rebuilt tranny (with only 10k miles on it), and a complete 
AC overhaul, replacing EVERY little piece, to the point of the guys asking if I 
wanted R12 or 134.

But with driving back/forth to Houston (100miles each way) lately, the ride 
just isn't what it used to be.


What would it cost to replace all the shock absorbers and rubber bits in the 
suspension? Couldn't be more than you should budget for sorting out any used car 
purchase, could it?
Is your driver's seat OK, or should it be rebuilt or swapped with the passenger 
seat?


Dan said his W140 is almost as good a cruiser as a W126. Sounds like a (small) 
step down to me.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Dan Penoff]

The W140 is a land yacht of a car, and almost as good as a well sorted out W126 
for road trips.

That being said, it is far more complex, with the resulting expense due to the 
many sophisticated systems it has.

My comments are not meant to frighten or deter you from going with a W140, but 
there are some pitfalls to be conscious of should you decide to go that 
direction.

If you have specific questions, let me know.

I would add that my 1995 S500 coupe just turned 250k a few days ago and has 
been trouble free through my ownership.

Dan

On Jul 11, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Joe Sasser  wrote:

> With my back having become worse, it's time to update S-classes from the w126 
> I've been driving for the past 10-11 years.
> 
> It's a 300SD, and the mileage is phenomenal. Lots of work has gone into it, 
> from a new engine, rebuilt tranny (with only 10k miles on it), and a complete 
> AC overhaul, replacing EVERY little piece, to the point of the guys asking if 
> I wanted R12 or 134.
> 
> But with driving back/forth to Houston (100miles each way) lately, the ride 
> just isn't what it used to be. So I've started looking around, and originally 
> thought the w220 would be too far from my grasp. However, there are some 
> around to be found for a good price.
> 
> I love the looks of the w140, and the interior & goodies of the w220. So, to 
> those of you here which own one or both, or have owned either or both, what 
> are the pros/cons of each model?
> 
> This most likely will be the car to keep till I'm old & grey. Any/all advice 
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
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[MBZ] w140 OR w220?

[Joe Sasser]

With my back having become worse, it's time to update S-classes from the w126 
I've been driving for the past 10-11 years.

It's a 300SD, and the mileage is phenomenal. Lots of work has gone into it, 
from a new engine, rebuilt tranny (with only 10k miles on it), and a complete 
AC overhaul, replacing EVERY little piece, to the point of the guys asking if I 
wanted R12 or 134.

But with driving back/forth to Houston (100miles each way) lately, the ride 
just isn't what it used to be. So I've started looking around, and originally 
thought the w220 would be too far from my grasp. However, there are some around 
to be found for a good price.

I love the looks of the w140, and the interior & goodies of the w220. So, to 
those of you here which own one or both, or have owned either or both, what are 
the pros/cons of each model?

This most likely will be the car to keep till I'm old & grey. Any/all advice 
appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

[Curt Raymond]

Yeahbut if I can cut apart an old phone charger and make one thats $17 in my 
pocket...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:49:31 -0500
From: "M. Mitchell Marmel" 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

At 4:17 PM -0700 7/10/13, Curt Raymond wrote:

>Sounds like a VR to me, I've got a spare, I'll give it a shot. I'm 
>also going to gut an old 12v cellphone charger to make test ports I 
>can easily plug my multimeter into for realtime monitoring.

I use one of these widgets:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Equus-Innova-3721-Battery-and-Charging-System-Monitor/15137663

Does the job nicely!

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 4:17 PM -0700 7/10/13, Curt Raymond wrote:

Sounds like a VR to me, I've got a spare, I'll give it a shot. I'm 
also going to gut an old 12v cellphone charger to make test ports I 
can easily plug my multimeter into for realtime monitoring.


I use one of these widgets:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Equus-Innova-3721-Battery-and-Charging-System-Monitor/15137663

Does the job nicely!

-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] WD- 40

[Dwight Giles]

Yes I just got this  too and that was why I asked yesterday.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Funny, I juwt read this thread then see my uncle has posted this on his FB:
>
>
> I NEVER KNEW THIS!
>
> What IS The Main Ingredient of WD-40?
> Before you read to the end, does anybody know what the main ingredient of
> WD-40?
> No Cheating.
>
> WD-40 ~ Who knew!
>
> I had a neighbor who bought a new pickup.
> I got up very early one Sunday morning and saw that someone had spray
> painted red all around the sides of this beige truck (for some unknown
> reason).
> I went over, woke him up, and told him the bad news.
> He was very upset and was trying to figure out what to do
> probably nothing until Monday morning, since nothing was open.
> Another neighbor came out and told him to get his WD-40 and clean it off.
> It removed the unwanted paint beautifully and did not harm his paint job
> that was on the truck. I was impressed!
>
> WD-40 who knew?
> "Water Displacement #40".
> The product began from a search for a rust preventative solvent and
> degreaser to protect missile parts.
> WD-40 was created in 1953, by three technicians at the San Diego Rocket
> Chemical Company.
> Its name comes from the project that was to find a 'Water Displacement'
> Compound.
> They were finally successful for a formulation, with their fortieth
> attempt, thus WD-40.
> The 'Convair Company' bought it in bulk to protect their atlas missile
> parts.
> Ken East (one of the original founders) says there is nothing in WD-40
> that would hurt you.
> When you read the 'shower door' part, try it.
> It's the first thing that has ever cleaned that spotty shower door.
> If yours is plastic, it works just as well as on glass.
> It's a miracle!
> Then try it on your stove-top.
> It's now shinier than it's ever been.
> You'll be amazed.
>
> WD-40 Uses:
> 1. Protects silver from tarnishing.
> 2. Removes road tar and grime from cars.
> 3. Cleans and lubricates guitar strings.
> 4. Gives floor that 'just-waxed' sheen without making them slippery.
> 5. Keeps the flies off of Cows, Horses, and other Farm Critters, as well.
> (Ya gotta love this one!!!)
> 6. Restores and cleans chalkboards.
> 7. Removes lipstick stains.
> 8. Loosens stubborn zippers.
> 9. Untangles jewelry chains.
> 10. Removes stains from stainless steel sinks.
> 11. Removes dirt and grime from the barbecue grill.
> 12. Keeps ceramic / terracotta garden pots from oxidizing.
> 13. Removes tomato stains from clothing.
> 14. Keeps glass shower doors free of water spots.
> 15. Camouflages scratches in ceramic and marble floors.
> 16. Keeps scissors working smoothly.
> 17. Lubricates noisy door hinges on both home and vehicles doors.
> 18. It removes that nasty tar and scuff marks from the kitchen flooring.
> It doesn't seem to harm the finish and you won't have to scrub nearly as
> hard to get them off.
> Just remember to open some windows if you have a lot of marks.
> 19. Remove those nasty Bug guts that will eat away the finish on your car
> if not removed quickly!
> 20. Gives a children's playground gym slide a shine for a super fast slide.
> 21. Lubricates gearshift and mower deck lever for ease of handling on
> riding mowers...
> 22. Rids kids rocking chair and swings of squeaky noises.
> 23. Lubricates tracks in sticking home windows and makes them easier to
> open.
> 24. Spraying an umbrella stem makes it easier to open and close.
> 25. Restores and cleans padded leather dashboards in vehicles, as well as
> vinyl bumpers.
> 26. Restores and cleans roof racks on vehicles.
> 27. Lubricates and stops squeaks in electric fans.
> 28. Lubricates wheel sprockets on tricycles, wagons, and bicycles for easy
> handling.
> 29. Lubricates fan belts on washers and dryers and keeps them running
> smoothly.
> 30. Keeps rust from forming on saws and saw blades, and other tools.
> 31. Removes grease splatters from stove-tops.
> 32. Keeps bathroom mirror from fogging.
> 33. Lubricates prosthetic limbs.
> 34. Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).
> 35. Removes all traces of duct tape.
> 36. Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve
> arthritis pain.
> 37. Florida's favorite use is: 'cleans and removes love bugs from grills
> and bumpers.'
> 38. The favorite use in the state of New York, it protects the Statue of
> Liberty from the elements.
> 39. WD-40 attracts fish. Spray a little on live bait or lures and you will
> be catching the big one in no time. Also, it's a lot cheaper than the
> chemical attractants that are made for just that purpose.
> Keep in mind though, using some chemical laced baits or lures for fishing
> are not allowed in some states.
> 40. Use it for fire ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and
> stops the itch.
> 41. It is great for removing crayon from walls. Spray it on the marks and
> wipe with a clean rag.
> 42. Also, if you've discovered that your teenage da

[MBZ] OT "Geneva club sandwiches ‘world’s most costly’" naqy9uvu

[Chris James]

Link to article:
http://www.thelocal.ch/20130613/geneva-club-sandwiches-worlds-most-costly

Love these Sandwiches & that pic in the article is making me hungry!
Didn't realize there was now a “Club Sandwich Index”!  Interesting to
see the average prices in hotel restaurants around the world.

http://press.hotels.com/en-us/news-releases/annual-hotels-com-club-sandwich-index-csi-names-geneva-as-the-most-expensive-city-for-a-club-sandwich/

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Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

[Dieselhead]

I thought the gizmo on the compressor just reports compressor RPM, which
the KLIMA compares to what it expects the compressor RPM to be, and shuts
off the compressor if the numbers don't match.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:



 KLIMA relay shuts off the power, but there is a gizmo on the compressor
 that detects slip to signal the Klima.  I thought you were trying to come
 up with the name of the gizmo on the compressor.  I can't remember its name.





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Yes, that is how it works.

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Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

[WILTON]

Yep; KLIMA; that's it!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?



I agree, it's time to replace the VR, and clean the commutator while you're
there.
I finally rememembered the name of the thing that turns off the AC if the
serpentine belts slips - the KLIMA relay - if anyone cares.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Scott Ritchey  
wrote:




When mt 79 TD had these symptoms it was indeed the VR (putting out too 
much

voltage).

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:17 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

Ga, spoke too soon.

Interestingly the light almost never comes on at idle. The higher the
engine
speed the brighter the light gets. Using more devices (headlights, fan,
wipers like in the massive rainstorm I hit on the way home) makes it come
on
brighter.

Sounds like a VR to me, I've got a spare, I'll give it a shot. I'm also
going to gut an old 12v cellphone charger to make test ports I can easily
plug my multimeter into for realtime monitoring.

-Curt





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Re: [MBZ] More Job Activity

[WILTON]

'Hope it goes well.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: "mercedes" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:35 PM
Subject: [MBZ] More Job Activity



I was finally able to talk with the recruiter from Halliburton on Monday.
I called his number and he answered!

We had a good conversation. I had looked on the Halliburton website
trying to locate the position he had mentioned and found three in Duncan,
Oklahoma for which I would be qualified. He took down the numbers. He
asked me a number of questions, concentrating on my design and development
experience. When I mentioned my work in graduate school and at the Lab,
involved with one-off research systems, he was concerned how I would
answer a hiring manager's question about making multiple systems. When I
mentioned my production engineering activities at Hewlett-Packard, he was
satisfied. He said he wanted to get me to the next stage, so it sounds
promising.

I also got a call from the recruiter with Nokomis in Charleroi,
Pennsylvania. She set up a telephone interview for me with a fellow named
Bogdan Pathak of their Toledo, Ohio office. The interview will be
tomorrow, Thursday, 11 July, at 2:00 P.M. MDT.

As always, I appreciate your prayers.

God bless,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist special Hmmm...

[Chris James]

Besides the European lights, that 190 also has the standard US wheels, 
not the 8 hole ones that the Limited Edition should have. So I'm 
guessing they have pics from two different cars in the ad, seems 
unlikely that someone would switch both the headlights & wheels.


Is it too hard to take some pics of the actual car your selling

On 7/11/2013 9:23 AM, Chris James wrote:

Yes, that's what it looks like (if that's in fact the car for sale, have
to watch those CL'ers). Note also the European lights.





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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist special Hmmm...

[Chris James]

Yes, that's what it looks like (if that's in fact the car for sale, have
to watch those CL'ers). Note also the European lights.

Here is a sportline 190 with gray interior in the ATL CL for comparison
(mind the chrome rims & blacked out lights). I like the black/red
Sportline interior of the Limited Edition 190 better myself.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/3912904001.html

Standard 190E 2.6 & 300E Sportline leather interiors were available in 5
Solid colors, black, blue, gray, dark brown & cream beige.



On 7/11/2013 2:27 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Isn't this the special edition, that was discussed a couple of
weeks ago?


The prominent front seat bolsters and red seat trim make me wonder.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Oh Andrew....

[MG]

Exactly

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 00:05:50 -0400
From: Andrew Strasfogel 

I just think the whole thing is way overblown.  Perhaps nursing 
mothers and

babies should be sequestered from cats but that's about it IMO.

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Re: [MBZ] WD- 40

[Rich Thomas]

Funny, I juwt read this thread then see my uncle has posted this on his FB:


I NEVER KNEW THIS!

What IS The Main Ingredient of WD-40?
Before you read to the end, does anybody know what the main ingredient 
of WD-40?

No Cheating.

WD-40 ~ Who knew!

I had a neighbor who bought a new pickup.
I got up very early one Sunday morning and saw that someone had spray 
painted red all around the sides of this beige truck (for some unknown 
reason).

I went over, woke him up, and told him the bad news.
He was very upset and was trying to figure out what to do
probably nothing until Monday morning, since nothing was open.
Another neighbor came out and told him to get his WD-40 and clean it off.
It removed the unwanted paint beautifully and did not harm his paint job 
that was on the truck. I was impressed!


WD-40 who knew?
"Water Displacement #40".
The product began from a search for a rust preventative solvent and 
degreaser to protect missile parts.
WD-40 was created in 1953, by three technicians at the San Diego Rocket 
Chemical Company.
Its name comes from the project that was to find a 'Water Displacement' 
Compound.
They were finally successful for a formulation, with their fortieth 
attempt, thus WD-40.
The 'Convair Company' bought it in bulk to protect their atlas missile 
parts.
Ken East (one of the original founders) says there is nothing in WD-40 
that would hurt you.

When you read the 'shower door' part, try it.
It's the first thing that has ever cleaned that spotty shower door.
If yours is plastic, it works just as well as on glass.
It's a miracle!
Then try it on your stove-top.
It's now shinier than it's ever been.
You'll be amazed.

WD-40 Uses:
1. Protects silver from tarnishing.
2. Removes road tar and grime from cars.
3. Cleans and lubricates guitar strings.
4. Gives floor that 'just-waxed' sheen without making them slippery.
5. Keeps the flies off of Cows, Horses, and other Farm Critters, as 
well. (Ya gotta love this one!!!)

6. Restores and cleans chalkboards.
7. Removes lipstick stains.
8. Loosens stubborn zippers.
9. Untangles jewelry chains.
10. Removes stains from stainless steel sinks.
11. Removes dirt and grime from the barbecue grill.
12. Keeps ceramic / terracotta garden pots from oxidizing.
13. Removes tomato stains from clothing.
14. Keeps glass shower doors free of water spots.
15. Camouflages scratches in ceramic and marble floors.
16. Keeps scissors working smoothly.
17. Lubricates noisy door hinges on both home and vehicles doors.
18. It removes that nasty tar and scuff marks from the kitchen flooring.
It doesn't seem to harm the finish and you won't have to scrub nearly as 
hard to get them off.

Just remember to open some windows if you have a lot of marks.
19. Remove those nasty Bug guts that will eat away the finish on your 
car if not removed quickly!

20. Gives a children's playground gym slide a shine for a super fast slide.
21. Lubricates gearshift and mower deck lever for ease of handling on 
riding mowers...

22. Rids kids rocking chair and swings of squeaky noises.
23. Lubricates tracks in sticking home windows and makes them easier to 
open.

24. Spraying an umbrella stem makes it easier to open and close.
25. Restores and cleans padded leather dashboards in vehicles, as well 
as vinyl bumpers.

26. Restores and cleans roof racks on vehicles.
27. Lubricates and stops squeaks in electric fans.
28. Lubricates wheel sprockets on tricycles, wagons, and bicycles for 
easy handling.
29. Lubricates fan belts on washers and dryers and keeps them running 
smoothly.

30. Keeps rust from forming on saws and saw blades, and other tools.
31. Removes grease splatters from stove-tops.
32. Keeps bathroom mirror from fogging.
33. Lubricates prosthetic limbs.
34. Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).
35. Removes all traces of duct tape.
36. Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve 
arthritis pain.
37. Florida's favorite use is: 'cleans and removes love bugs from grills 
and bumpers.'
38. The favorite use in the state of New York, it protects the Statue of 
Liberty from the elements.
39. WD-40 attracts fish. Spray a little on live bait or lures and you 
will be catching the big one in no time. Also, it's a lot cheaper than 
the chemical attractants that are made for just that purpose.
Keep in mind though, using some chemical laced baits or lures for 
fishing are not allowed in some states.
40. Use it for fire ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and 
stops the itch.
41. It is great for removing crayon from walls. Spray it on the marks 
and wipe with a clean rag.
42. Also, if you've discovered that your teenage daughter has washed and 
dried a tube of lipstick with a load of laundry, saturate the lipstick 
spots with WD-40 and rewash. Presto! The lipstick is gone!
43. If you spray it inside a wet distributor cap, it will displace the 
moisture, allowing the engine to start.


P.S.
As for that Basic, Main Ingredient...
Well i

Re: [MBZ] OT Electrics on Pikes Peak and at the TT

[Hendrik and Fay]

Four wheels are for girls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaIEy5JeQtQ

Hendrik
who was scared just watching that

On 11/07/13 20:06, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:

At 8:36 PM -0600 7/10/13, Craig wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:55:15 -0400 Rich Thomas
 wrote:


 This looks like it could be fun and insane

 http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/10/driving-toyotas-ev-pikes-peak-racer


Yes, indeed! 600 BHP and 900 ft-lbs torque...


And maybe 30 miles on a charge, if you're lucky. :P

-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] OT Electrics on Pikes Peak

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 8:36 PM -0600 7/10/13, Craig wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:55:15 -0400 Rich Thomas
 wrote:


 This looks like it could be fun and insane

 http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/10/driving-toyotas-ev-pikes-peak-racer


Yes, indeed! 600 BHP and 900 ft-lbs torque...


And maybe 30 miles on a charge, if you're lucky. :P

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Re: [MBZ] Time/Flat rate WAS: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d

[MG]

I don't really like having a car up like that either but it seems 
that now adays it's almost the norm. I start a job figuring that 
I will do just one thing and then it snowballs. That's what 
happened with the recent job on the TD. I ended up replacing 
every rubber part on the rear subframe. And had to find and 
replace one of the trailing arms. I finally got finished 
yesterday. Now on to the AC.


Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:49:30 -0500
From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>

I don't worry about the time it takes most of the time.  I only care
that I allow enough time to finish whatever i start.  I hate 
having a

car up on blocks so to speak for a week while I wait on parts (that
used to arrive in a day or two before computers and "overnight"
delivery.  Whatever used to take me 4 hours now seems to take a day
or more.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 92, Issue 76

[MG]

Cool. I never had a car then but did rebuild the motor of my 
Enfield interceptor in the kitchen of the 7 man on campus 
apartment. The RA just shook his head, said I didn't see it and 
walked out. That was in 68. Yeah too long ago.


Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:43:01 -0400
From: Dwight Giles 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 84 Mercedes Benz 300 d
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Yes-i know. Used to change trannies in college dormitory parking 
lot or
even on roadside. Almost go suspended from college rebuilding 
comet trans
in my room. Something about the carpet h parts  cleaner. But that 
was 45

years ago.


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[MBZ] oops

[Rick Hawkins Java]

Folks

i accidently sent  a message to the group meant for someone else

sorry
thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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